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As the recession renews interest in the growing hemp marketplace as a potential boon for the green economy -- even Fox Business News has touted it -- hemp is becoming impossible to ignore.
But the plant's potential extends far beyond consumer-generated greenbacks. A low-input, low-impact crop, industrial hemp can play a significant role in our desperate shuffle to avoid catastrophic climate change.
"In terms of sustainability, there are numerous reasons to grow hemp," says Patrick Goggin, a board member on the California Council for Vote Hemp, the nation's leading industrial-hemp advocacy group.
Goggin launches into its environmental benefits: Hemp requires no pesticides; it has deep digging roots that detoxify the soil, making it an ideal rotation crop -- in fact, hemp is so good at bioremediation, or extracting heavy metals from contaminated soil, it's being grown near Chernobyl.
Hemp is also an excellent source of biomass, or renewable, carbon-neutral energy, and its cellulose level, roughly three times that of wood, can be used for paper to avoid cutting down trees, an important line of defense against global warming.
When it comes to hemp, environmental gains are inexorably intertwined with economic ones. The auto industry, hardly synonymous with being green but which has had the research dollars to apply new technology, can vouch for Goggin. For years European car makers have been using hemp-fiber-reinforced composite materials to replace fiberglass and in other components, such as door panels or dashboards. And now their American counterparts have joined in.
Blending hemp with plastics is not only cheaper for producers, but natural-fiber composites are roughly 30 percent lighter, which in turn leads to greater fuel efficiency for customers. And when they finally hit the junkyard, those parts partially biodegrade. Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Honda all use this technology.
Now, where there are cars, there's fuel, or these days biofuel, which has become a contentious issue as America fights for energy independence while attempting to combat climate change.
Biofuels -- fuels derived from plants -- actually are nothing new. Rudolph Diesel, who invented the diesel engine, designed his machine to run on peanut oil, and his contemporary, Henry Ford, intended his Model-T to run on ethanol, of which hemp provided the major feedstock until the 1930s. Even Thomas Edison championed bio-based fuels, suspicious of the growing dominance of the petroleum industry, which boomed after America began taxing alcohol -- as both a beverage and a fuel -- to help pay for the Civil War.
To wean ourselves off foreign oil, the U.S. heavily subsidized the corn-based ethanol industry to the tune of $7 billion in 2006, according to zFacts, a Web site run by economist Steve Stoft.
Critics argue that the production of corn-based ethanol is problematic because corn consumes more energy from fossil fuels (such as petrochemical, nitrogen-based fertilizers) than it yields, and its production has a negative impact on the price and availability of edible corn, a staple in countries such as Mexico.
In 2007, because so many farmers north and south of the border switched to growing industrial corn, the price of corn flour in Mexico skyrocketed 400 percent, sending rioters into the streets. People need to eat and to do so, they have to be able to afford food, which begs the question: How green is ethanol when it deprives folk of basic food?
"In reality, corn isn't a viable option," says Goggin, who explains that hemp, which can be grown both as food and fuel -- its seeds, harvested for protein and essential amino and fatty acids, or for oil, which is converted into biodiesel -- has roughly four times the cellulose biomass potential of corn. "Compared to hemp, which can be harvested for multiple purposes, it's very inefficient."
As biomass, hemp can be converted into fuels such as methane, methanol and gasoline, which can help curb the world's growing appetite for palm oil used to make biodiesel, and which is having a colossally negative environmental impact.
In densely populated Indonesia, companies are draining local peat swamps and clearing virgin tropical forests, home to the endangered orangutan, to make room for palm oil plantations. This alone has resulted in 2 billion tons of carbon-dioxide emissions being released into the atmosphere a year, according to the conservation nonprofit Wetlands International.
The same is happening in Brazil's biodiverse cerrado region south of the Amazon, where sugar cane and soy plantations are replacing native vegetation. Deforestation now accounts for 25 percent of the world's greenhouse-gas emissions, according to the Global Canopy Program, an alliance of rainforest scientists based in Oxford, England. Tropical forests are essentially the planet's lungs -- and without lungs, well, it's a no-brainer ...
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Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Jun 18, 2009 12:45 AM
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Posted by: Suzon on Jun 18, 2009 1:37 AM
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I love the idea of hempcrete!
Democratize the corporations and take away their power to buy the bulk of our politicians and we just might have an outbreak of Common Sense.
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Posted by: yannicus on Jun 18, 2009 2:02 AM
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The thousand and one usages you describe aren't financially viable when compared to the mighty petrochemical industry's cheap products.
Its tragic, but its reality.
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Posted by: paulmagillsmith on Jun 18, 2009 3:33 AM
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Posted by: shine0854 on Jun 18, 2009 3:42 AM
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The Emperor Wears No Clothes....published years ago has been largely ignored by the mainstream....even ignored by NORML because of the 'counter culture' author Jack Herer.....
It is unfortunate that the public views the cannabis culture as something other than mainstream. The current drug laws have incarcerated someone out of nearly every family in the US and everyone is aware of the problems associated with drug abuse. Marijuana is classified along with the really dangerous substances and that has stood in the way of any serious debate about it becoming legalized.
We must overcome this "Anslinger" view and regard cannabis as it really is, an herb......
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Posted by: aaweeble1 on Jun 18, 2009 4:28 AM
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Posted by: bcainw on Jun 18, 2009 4:55 AM
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"We have met the enemy, and he is us."
Chris Conrad is part of Oaksterdam, a groups that is behind the "tax and regulate" model of Marijuana Re-Legalization. His wife Miki recieves funds from Soros who is also very much behind the "tax and regulate" model.
Yet if Hemp (e.g., Cannabis or Marijuana) is to realize its full potential it must simply be legal for everyone to grow without any taxation or regulation.
We are at a crossroads in history right now. Do we allow the Multi-National Corporations to control every aspect of our lives or do we demand the full liberation of Cannabis?
Unfortunately if we want Cannabis Liberation we must recognize that the the moneyed drug reform organizations are currently a hinderance, not a ally. It is up to the grass roots to make sure that Marijuana, in all of its forms (e.g., Industrial, Agricultural, Medicinal and Recreational) is allowed to move forward without ANY taxation, regulation or other forms of government interference.
The moneyed groups (e.g., NORML, DPA, MPP etc.) do not support a "no tax, no regulate" model. Sorry, but facts are facts.
If you really want to see the "healing of all nations" then you need to get on board with the MERP Movement to completely Re-Legalize Mother Nature's favorite plant.
To join go to this link and get on the mailing list. The battle must be joined now for the sake of our children and their children's children.
MERP Headquarters
The Marijuana Re-Legalization Policy Project (MRPP) = "MERP"
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Posted by: MyLeftFoot on Jun 18, 2009 5:03 AM
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if the hemp draws the heavy metals up into the plant, does it 'digest' it? or does the heavy metals sit in the plant so when it's composted or burned the heavy metals are returned to either the soil (in a different location maybe) or left in the ash after being burned?
or, how would the plants be dealt with after growing in a toxic environment?
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Posted by: bcainw on Jun 18, 2009 5:22 AM
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How to Make Marijuana Free and Legal for For All Adults Within A Year
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Posted by: PJAW on Jun 18, 2009 5:43 AM
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Anyone who has not taken the time to educate themselves on this topic ought to do so, and spread the information to others. More articles on this subject, please.
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Posted by: xvictor on Jun 18, 2009 5:48 AM
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(2) They have an agenda (pro-oil, pro-cotton, pro-Monsanto, etc)
(3) Repug
Factual knowledge is important. If we can deal with #1, it's likely #2 and #3 will slither back into the gutter and the nation will progressively move forward.
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Posted by: vspoils on Jun 18, 2009 5:47 AM
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America, the dutiful slaves. Get a spine America. Demand change! Yeah, REAL CHANGE, not that phony balony BS the Obamaton is spewing. Have we seen any change? Will we? Not bloody likely. We must BE the change.
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Posted by: annejohnson on Jun 18, 2009 6:58 AM
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Posted by: chiefwanadubie on Jun 18, 2009 7:08 AM
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Protectionism replaced free enterprise, with propaganda, to create our corporate monopoly system, that has destroyed Americas sovereignty!!!
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Posted by: littlepitcher on Jun 18, 2009 7:14 AM
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Nitrate toxicity in water and air is a growing problem in agricultural areas.
Other than that, it sounds like a good deal.
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Posted by: vasumurti on Jun 18, 2009 7:21 AM
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Hemp has many economic uses. It contains the longest fiber in the plant kingdom and is one of the strongest and most durable. It can be used for commercial and industrial applications, including insulation, textiles, clothing, and rope. The fiber and pulp can be used to manufacture nondeteriorating paper using a relatively pollution-free process. The plant can also be used for biomass applications. Its seeds yield oil similar to linseed, which can be used in many commercial and industrial applications. In Eastern Europe and Central Asia, the seeds have been used for human consumption.
"Hemp. It's marijuana's nonspyschoactive sister," writes Ed Rosenthal. "You couldn't get a buzz if you smoked a bale of hemp, but it's still illegal to grow it in the United States." Industrial hemp is legally grown in over thirty countries. For thousands of years, people grew hemp and prospered. It flourishes without pesticides. Thomas Jefferson considered hemp so vital to America that he risked his life to smuggle hemp seeds out of France. George Washington grew hemp and instructed his caretaker at Mount Vernon: "Make the most of the hemp seed. Sow it everywhere."
Industrial hemp was first grown in Kentucky 250 years ago. It is currently grown in other countries across the globe, including France, England, Canada, Australia, China, Hungary and the Ukraine. Industrial hemp has virtually no THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. It cannot be used as a drug. None of the countries that allow industrial hemp production have experienced any drug problems relating to the crop.
Using modern processing techniques, hemp can be used in place of petrochemicals. Instead of synthetic plastics made from oil, we can use natural fiber and processed bioplastic derivatives. Plastics and polyester rely on foreign oil, while cotton consumes enormous amounts of water, fertilizer, herbicides, and pesticides.
Industrial hemp is very clean, easy to grow and is one of the most environmentally sound sources of industrial fiber in the world. Environmentally friendly detergents, plastics, paints, varnishes, cosmetics, and textiles are already being made from it in Europe. Industrial hemp can meet our fiber needs while also revitalizing our struggling rural economies.
Hemp is already being used in place of trees for pressboard, particleboard, and core concrete construction molds. Paper made from hemp is acid-free, stronger and lasts far longer than paper made from trees. Hemp fabrics are far stronger and more resistant to mold than any other natural fiber. Builders in France and Germany use hemp for construction material, replacing drywall and plywood.
Hemp can be used to manufacture plastic plumbing pipe, replacing such toxic materials as polyvinyl chloride (PVC). Hemp fiber is already being used in place of glass fiber in surfboards and snowboards. Hemp could also provide the resin itself.
For ideological reasons, the federal government refuses to allow farmers to grow hemp despite the fact that industrial hemp is currently grown legally worldwide. The George W. Bush administration took anti-hemp policy to a new extreme, attempting unsuccessfully to ban the import of hemp foods and cosmetics. Erwin "Bud" Sholts, director of the Wisconsin Agriculture Department's marketing division, said hemp "is the most value-added, prolific fiber crop man can grow." Sholts acknowledged that hemp is an emotional issue, but points out that "other nations with drug laws as tough or tougher than ours have overcome this hurdle."
Anti-drug hysteria should not blind the public to the commercial and industrial applications of hemp.
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Jun 18, 2009 7:33 AM
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Severely corrupt governments + corporations are why so many people are suffering!!! There are abundant resources on this planet for EVERYONE to have clean water, food, shelter, decent jobs, medical care, etc.!!!
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Posted by: maxpayne on Jun 18, 2009 7:56 AM
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MR. OBAMA, TEAR DOWN THIS DRUG WAR WALL AND IMMEDIATELY REPLACE YOUR VP WHO'S A DRUG CZAR ! EITHER RESPECT MOTHER EARTH AND GOD BY GIVING THE POWERFUL PLANT OF PEACE, CANNABIS TO BE RETURNED TO LEGAL STATUS OR GET READY TO FACE THEIR WRATH COME 2012 !!
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Posted by: picket on Jun 18, 2009 8:07 AM
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Hemp milk is made with IMPORTED hemp seed and is not for the thrifty shopper, in our supermarket it is $4.00 qt, so much for a free Capitalist society!!!
Re our competition the Chinese in 2007 planned for the next five years for hemp fiber to reach 1.5 million tons and for its consumption to reach 20% of cotton fiber consumption. You can trade with China's hemp fiber on line. So much for freedom in this good ole USA !!!
Our hard working farmers and the American consumer wait patiently[???] for our so-called elected leaders to face reality and come to their senses.
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Jun 18, 2009 8:28 AM
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I was thinking of taking a little bit of hemp protein powder and blending it in with my garden soil on my topsy turvey since I don't have a garden. I wonder if that will yield even healthier vegetables.
And thank you for alerting the public to Ron Paul's valiant push to legalize industrial hemp. Like maxpayne said earlier, the chances of legalizing hemp are as good as passing single payer health care but it is time to call your representative and tell them to support HR 1866 and let your voices be heard loud and clear.
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Posted by: Noah_Scape on Jun 18, 2009 8:33 AM
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There is no THC content, by the way [sorry, but it isn't good to be high ALL day anyhow].
What they DO have is the most perfect blend of Omega 3, 6, and 9 Oils of any food on earth, including fish. They have lots of fibre too. Any healthy eating expert who does not mention Hemp Seed Hearts is being negligent.
Heart disease and cholesterol and many other health concerns will be reduced by eating hemp seed hearts. Perhaps the AMA knows that the medical industry would lose business if hemp hearts were legal in America.
[and no, I do not have any business interest in hemp seeds or hemp oils]
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Posted by: frankly1 on Jun 18, 2009 8:42 AM
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I still can't get my head wrapped around the fact that a country that calls itself free can make a PLANT illegal.
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Jun 18, 2009 8:52 AM
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I still have some brochures that the local county extension office produced to advise farmers on how to grow hemp.
Dad often mentioned how well hemp grew around here and how he couldn't understand how after the war it was suddenly banned.
Wild hemp still grows as a weed in ditches and waste places around here.
Hemp would be an ideal alternative cash crop option for where I live. My dad said that it grows so vigorously that it out-competes weeds so that no herbicides are needed. Also, in Nebraska we tend to get hot and dry in July and August. Corn and soybeans require irrigation at this time to produce maximum yields. Hemp, on the other hand, LOVES it when it is hot and dry. Not having to irrigate it unlike other crops would save vast amounts of water and energy resources.
Another advantage is that most of the equipment that farmers already use is readily adaptable to hemp culture. The planting machines and hay harvesting equipment that is already on the farms can be used for hemp production. Thus, farmers do not have to invest in any heavy capital outlays for new equipment.
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Posted by: donl51 on Jun 18, 2009 10:32 AM
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Posted by: TJColatrella on Jun 18, 2009 12:14 PM
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This would create a lot of new green jobs and that includes the refineries that would spring up regionally and refining our fuel regionally is good for National Security..!
We can enhance our energy independence and also our national security and help the economy by lifting this really stupid draconian regressive ban on Industrial Hemp...
Add that to wind and solar and we have a great start on a new intelligent future if someone could just convince Obama to join the 21st Century. and stop serving these 19th century robber barons he surrounds himself with..
http://hemp4fuel.com/
Grow Here, Grow Now..!
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Posted by: P.E.A.C.E. on Jun 18, 2009 4:18 PM
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Google "Global Broiling" to find the California Cannabis Ministry blog that expands on this major threat to our immune systems, DNA, and normal physiological development.
Cannabis grown in rotation with other crops breaks the cycle of pests that otherwise grow unrestricted from year to year. Cannabis also yields pesticides to protect other crops from insects, making it possible to convert from chemical to organic agriculture.
Protein production from hemp seed could replace at least a portion of the beef protein, making methane production from cattle (25X more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2) less of a problem.
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Posted by: Bill4 on Jun 18, 2009 4:20 PM
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The thing about hemop is that although there are lots of things it can be used for, there is almost always something better and/or cheaper and more practicle to use. Hemp makes good paper, but is it a serious threat to paper made with wood pulp anywhere in the world, even in CHina or Russia where they have cheap labor? Heck no. If you buy hemp paper anywhere what you are going to get 99% of the time is wod pulp based paper with a littel bit of hemp in it, and it's going to cost more than plain old wood pulp based paper.
I'd love for hemp to be the wonderplant people paint it out to be, but it is just not. In many countries where they grow hemp, including Canada, they actually had to cut production because they had flooded the limited market and drove prices so low that farmers were losing money growing it. In some contires they actually subsidize hemp. Why would a wonderplant that can be used for anything need government subsidies?
Mostly hemp is used in novelty products people buy because they think it's cool to buy stuff with hemp in it. Usually these products are overpriced, or they only have a tiny bit of hemp in them. You pay for the novelty of having the hemp.
It's just not all it's cracked up to be, and I just hope people will look into this before they use it as their main argument for why marijuana should be legal. It's a terribly weak argument, one people can shoot full of holes. Don't make the "hemp will save the world" argument because it is bogus and will destroy your credibility. Throw in the fact that hemp is a useful crop our farmers ought to be able to grow, but don’t argue it will replace oil, replace wood pulp for paper, etc. If it was going to do all these things we’d already see it going on in countries where it is legal and our big corporations would be pushing like crazy for it to be legal here so they could make a killing from it too.
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Posted by: robbrian on Jun 18, 2009 4:58 PM
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Is it a far stretch to suggest that if decisionmakers endanger this society's security through massive deficits and debt service payments that limit the availability of funds for our domestic and foreign war effort that doing so is tantamount to treason?
Hemp was NOT banned in 1937 because it was a harmful drug. Hemp was banned because it was a competitive threat to the fossil fuel, wood products, and newly developed synthetic fiber industries that were patentable, were marketable through existing channels and, therefore, more profitable than hemp.
With wholesale oil cost escalating industrial hemp is now competitive and should be treated like ethanol for corn or other renewables since it has an almost zero carbon footprint.
Unfortunately, millions of Americans still believe the lies spread about marijuana/hemp by Harry Anslinger,the Director of the original Federal Bureau of Narcotics, I.E Dupont, who had millions in synthetic patents, and Randolh Hearst, who had millions of acres of timber land to feed his newspaper empire.
On the eve of marijuana prohibition in the U.S., two articles about hemp appeared in major U.S. magazines. They were:
“The Most Profitable And Desireable Crop That Can Be Grown” From: Mechanical Engineering, February 26, 1937
“New Billion Dollar Crop” From: Popular Mechanics, February 1938
These articles reveal that hemp was on the verge of becoming a super crop because of new hemp processing technologies that were recently developed. Unfortunately, the potential of hemp was never reaped because of marijuana prohibition.
Hemp is legally grown for commercial use throughout much of Europe, India, China, Russia, Ukraine. In 1994 the Canadian government approved one experimental hemp field - its first legal hemp crop in 40 years. In 1995, there will be 11 government-approved hemp fields in Canada! If the U.S. does not legalize hemp for commercial use, a significant economic and environmental opportunity will be lost; the benefits will be reaped only by our economic competitors.
Literally millions of wild hemp plants grow throughout the entire Midwest today. Wild hemp, like hemp grown for commercial use, is USELESS as an intoxicant. It makes no sense to ban growing a plant that has enormous economic and environmental potential, grows naturally by the millions, and is impossible to exterminate. But yet, our draconian drug laws state that one acre of hemp grown on a person’s property can result in the owner being sentenced to DEATH! That’s correct, the DEATH PENALTY exists for growing one acre of nonintoxicating weeds!
U.S. Presidents and founding fathers George Washington and Thomas Jefferson grew hemp, used hemp products, and were hemp advocates. Today’s political leaders—as well as the public that favors marijuana prohibition—would treat George Washington and Thomas Jefferson with disdain, brand them criminals, and throw them in prison!
FACT: NO TREE OR PLANT SPECIES ON EARTH HAS THE COMMERCIAL, ECONOMIC, AND ENVIRONMENTAL POTENTIAL OF HEMP. OVER 30,000 KNOWN PRODUCTS CAN BE PRODUCED FROM HEMP!
“Make the most of the hemp seed, sow it everywhere.” - George Washington, first president of the U.S. and a strong hemp advocate.
This document is in the public domain. Please copy and distribute.
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Posted by: tokerdesigner on Jun 18, 2009 6:31 PM
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As the name BUSHWATER implies, slender sticks, twigs, brush, stubble etc. would be picked up, clipped (with anvil pruner, ratchet pruner, handsaw and hatchet), bundled and carted to seasonally dry gullies, ravines, creekbeds etc.
No offense is meant to our former commander in chief, rather he might be an excellent selection to head the new agency overseeing this project. In July 2001, a wirephoto showed George W., hatchet in hand, with the headline: "Bush Takes a Whack at Forest Fires." In a later quote he chided those who carelessly allow "kindling" to accumulate on the land.
Deadwood and underbrush would be divided when harvested into categories:
* Strong firm roundwood (including logs and branches narrower than those usually harvested by big lumber companies) to be bundled and shipped to town for use in carpentry and manufacturing
* Weathered, rotted wood to be chipped and shredded, using machines designed to be transportable on a forklift-truck over up-to-four-foot-wide roadways built with scrap pallets, plywood etc. so they can be installed and used out in the forest near the streams to be treated
* Selected amounts of the above to be pulverized into woodflour (trade term for "sawdust"), also usable in composting
* Thin stock-- brush, stubble etc. bundled where harvested and delivered by lifttruck to stream bed
Stream beds would be filled starting with a foot or two of woodflour, which at time of infrequent rain will capture water which otherwise would have run off. Next above that, a layer of a foot or more of chips, shreds etc. to weigh down the powder and prevent it escaping downstream at rain time. Next above that, many feet hight of bundled brush. On top is a good place to lay a series of pallets, pave the surface with one or more layers of nailed-down plywood, and thus provide a roadway by which the lift truck can travel from the Camp Zero location, which would be wherever a streambed in the program intersects with a highway by which trucks can deliver the above cited equipment and take away lumber.
The water trapped in this way would remain in the uplands, evaporate there, and feed rainfall making those areas moist.
Now what you've been waiting for: GAIH (government-approved industrial hemp) would be seeded into the brushstructure, along with other notorious fast-growing invasive plants like WLLW (weepy long-leaf watertree), shaky quaky spadeleaf watertree (aspen, cottonwood etc.), ancient Chinese Jewtown watertree (ailanthus, or the Tree That Grew On Maxwell Stereet), tangy toke-leaf desert tree (eucalyptus) etc. A series of green mounds like fingers would creep over and reforest the West and every desert on planet.
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Posted by: Canute on Jun 18, 2009 7:01 PM
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For comparison and a sense of scale, if we took our entire U.S. corn crop and turned it into ethanol we would net about 8% of our gasoline demand - and we wouldn't have any corn to eat or export. We are mining the soil with our national corn crop anyway - it isn't sustainable.
Whatever you want to grow - hemp, soybeans, corn, switchgrass, algae - there just isn't enough land, water, and nutrient flow to replace the 20 million barrels of oil we consume every day. It's a basic problem of biosphere capacity.
The problem will solve itself, but not in a nice way. In the future we'll be spending a lot of time walking.
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Jun 19, 2009 10:38 AM
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Hemp shirts sold for 12 cents in the old days,cotton was almost $20. Most fine lace was made from hemp. Every rope that was used on the newly formed Navy in the 1700's was made from hemp. As were the sails,crew uniforms and cooking flour. Every sailor from Spanish times on had a vial of hemp seeds around his neck. Why? So if they should become stranded on some island they could grow the clothes,food and sails they would need to rescue themselves or survive until a ship passed by. Try and survive with a vial of oil around your neck.
The Declaration of Independance copies that were handed out to those who supported the Revolution were made from hemp paper. Which by the way still look as fresh today as they did when printed in the 1770's. Try that with the New York Times,that rag would fall apart after ten years.
Oil from hemp lit every home for hundreds of years. Later it becamwe the fuel of choice for Diesel's new engine. Henery Ford developed a car made from hemp plastic, running on hemp oil and could take a 100 mph crash, can you Hybrid do that? probably not.
There are a lot of misinformed people that will tell you the hemp movement is pushing pot as a 'miracle product'. Sorry folks we're just filling in the blanks in your history. We have no need to lie to you,that's the government's job. We have nothing to gain by lyimng to you. We do however have a Planet to re-gain if we pass the legalization of hemp for all it's uses.
We gain cleaner air, less field runoffs into ground water, longer lasting clothes,which if you're one of the worker bees, is a good value. We gain a better bio fuel for diesel running cars and trucks, a healthier flour, an excellent pacifier of angry moods which will greatly reduce police calls for 'Domestic Disturbances' and just maybe we'll get back some of that long cherished but mostly resigned to 'folklore'...FREEDOM
Can oil do that?? So far all I've seen is greedy bastards getting fantastically wealthy,the air,water and land being poisoned. Clothing created that make folks have allergic reactions,healthcare products that do the same
and the slow motion death of every living thing
from the use of oil and all it's by-products.
maybe a math equation would get the point across better, so here goes;
OIL = DEATH or HEMP = LIFE
Choose wisely,the life you save or end may be your grandchildren's!!
Jeffrey7
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Posted by: Conrad on Jun 19, 2009 1:46 PM
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FYI, Jack Herer's book The Emperor Wears No Clothes was out of print in 1990 when I helped revive it by designing, editing and collaborating in its rewrite including the "Many Uses of Hemp" page that was originally one of my Business Alliance for Commerce in Hemp -- BACH -- handouts. (BTW, NORML gave Herer a lifetime achievement award, has featured him as a speaker, and has honored his book -- although Jack rarely shares that credit with those of us who made it happen.) I wrote Hemp: Lifeline to the Future and Hemp for Health, both of which advocate for industrial hemp to be fully developed. I was a co-founder and first President of the Hemp Industries Assn. I designed and curated the Hash, Marihuana and Hemp Museum in Amsterdam to represent hemp interests. I devised a "hemp sustainability" economic proposal that was considered by government officials in Haiti, Jamaica and Cuba, but all three declined to implement it due to fears of a US invasion if they did so. Only the most profound ignorance of my activities would explain the comment posted below, yet I've worked with Bruce Cain, so ignorance is not an excuse. Maybe he should have gotten some sleep before posting his remarks.
No, the "enemy within" isn't activists not signing on to other people's campaigns; it's posting unwarranted attacks against colleagues and allies in such a way as to undermine their work, weaken our community, and and thereby lend suport to cannabis prohibitionists.
To reiterate, I have formed organizations, campaigned, written books, lobbied and worked on ballot measures to fully restore hemp. In my opinion, marijuana use by adults should be regulated in a manner similar to but less stringent than the controls on alcohol. I don't mind when my work is overlooked, but don't post any more falsehoods about me or my wife, please. Thanks. -- Chris Conrad
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Posted by: paulmagillsmith on Jun 19, 2009 3:43 PM
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For all of you on Facebook (or other 'social' sites) I would suggest you add this article to your homepage. I did yesterday, and already have over a half-dozen comments...all positive. Make your time spent on the net count for something by spreading useful information.
Most people in this country are ignorant about hemp because of the massive & sustained disinformation campaign by corporate interests going back about 70 years. The reaction from most people, when I start listing the merits of industrial hemp is, "WOW! I didn't know that." Without information activism goes off half-cocked. It's a game of numbers, and the truth will free us, so educate, educate, educate!
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Posted by: DdC on Jun 19, 2009 8:42 PM
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Walters, Limpbog and O'Really lie, flat out bold face and without apology because its the ends justifying the means in their world. Those who will not read have nothing over those who can not read. Oaksterdam or Oklahoma? When the war is over, the price will settle down to a commodity price. But don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Pioneers like Jack Herer, Bill Conde and Chris Conrad deserve nothing but respect. Soros and the other two wealthy game players no doubt have different intentions than most of us working stiffs. But damn, ammo's ammo. It's like bitching about clean air and water. Duh! Now as far as Hemp, not included in the 1937 Tax Act, lumped in by Ricardo Mouse Nexxon, Liberty Killer.
OK kiddies one more time. Repeat after me.... Anything and I do mean anyfuckingthing made from nasty sulfur emitting fossil fools crud oil hydrocarbons can be made out of nice friendly homegrown carbohydrates. Giving staples to poor Mexicans who won't have to scare the Loe Dobbs ditto isolationists. Or supplement the Indians and reduce the addictions providing treatment. No need for family farmers to sell out to developers or go bankrupt. No need to kill America with Monsanto and Dupont poisons.
Biomass using the vegetable matter converting it into alcohol, not corn the least producing biomass, sabotage plan. 90% of the "stills" operating in the 20's produced auto and tractor fuel. Not booze. Booze Prohibition was basically fabricated by Rockefeller, financing the temperance league with a $5 million contribution. Coincidence or darn lucky it paved the way for no viable alternative to gasoline and diesel. Oil plants like Hemp seed, peanuts safflower etc. are bio-diesel and Willie Nelson is trying to localize the truckers using it in Texas of all places.
Most of the imported crud is for plastic we trash. Clothing and flags that melt. Pesticides for cotton. An Island is forming in the ocean from all of the years of dumping and not dealing with it. More scams for profit, but don't get me started. So simply put, we can grow biodegradable cellophane plastic and use it for pesticides and paint bases. Hemp is the major threat because of its versatility. Not only essential fatty acids Omega 3, 6 and 9 in the seed, the oil content for food grade use, skin care or lubricants and a great furniture polish. Then the different fibers and source of cellulose for paper. Plywood and beams stronger than trees, and a greater yield. Clothing, softer with greater tensile strength than cotton and without the 90 million pounds of poisons sprayed onto pregnant women and kids.
So much for hypocrite clinic bombers, they're more abortionists and have killed more babies than Roe V Wade. Ever tempting Nature with idiotic remedies to rid the planet of this vital competition to a few of the real Fascist, totally paying for private PDFA propaganda groups and freaks like Calvina and the access to drug worriers selected for their connections with the card board frankenfoods or plastic clothing. Greed and Enron ethics run the Ganjawar fraud.
Ganja/Hemp
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Posted by: DdC on Jun 19, 2009 8:51 PM
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arno the corporatist
pesticideabortionists
The growers are the real public servants and taking the risk in spite of Oblamo's backing off there is always a Jerry Brownose lurking to cash in and exploit. If a relaxed atmosphere Like Oakland can take place, more power to them. Like the not warring Kerlikowske office poster says...
WE ARE AT WAR. ARE YOU DOING ALL YOU CAN?
Prohibit Elected Lobbyists and Yellow Journalism
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Hemp Video made in the Netherlands
Ore. Hemp Bill Clears Hurdle
By Mitch Lies, Capital Press June 18, 2009 Salem
A bill allowing production and possession of industrial hemp on Oregon farms has cleared the Legislature's budget-writing committee and was on the Senate floor at press deadline.
Bill sponsor Sen. Floyd Prozanski, D-Eugene, said he believes the bill will pass both chambers.
Further, Prozanski said he believes the Obama administration is poised to remove federal roadblocks to hemp production. continued...
I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country... Corporations have bee enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
-- Abraham Lincoln, November 12, 1864
The Elkhorn Manifesto
SHADOW OF THE SWASTIKA
Ford And Diesel Never Intended Cars To Use Gasoline
Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONSTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941.
Nixon lied to schedule Ganja #1
Chemical Cotton vs Organic Hemp 11/01/01
Cannabis Vs Trees
Hemp Car.org
Henry Ford's Hemp Car
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9/26/07 arno215 112x460
HS 11362.5. (a) This section shall be known and may be cited as the Compassionate Use Act of 1996.
* has been recommended by a physician
* person's health would benefit
* or any other illness for which marijuana provides relief.
* no physician in this state shall be punished,
* Illegal possession and cultivation of marijuana,
shall not apply to a patient, or to a patient's primary caregiver
* upon the written or oral recommendation or approval of a physician
* The department shall establish and maintain a voluntary program for the issuance of identification cards to qualified patients who satisfy the requirements of this article and voluntarily apply to the identification card program.
* "Qualified patient" means a person who is entitled to the protections of Section 11362.5, but who does not have an identification card issued pursuant to this article.
* It shall not be necessary for a person to obtain an identification card in order to claim the protections of Section 11362.5.
* A qualified patient or a person with an identification card
* Any individual who provides assistance
* A designated primary caregiver who transports, processes, administers, delivers, or gives away marijuana for medical purposes
* (a) Subject to the requirements of this article, the individuals specified in subdivision (b) shall not be subject, on that sole basis, to criminal liability.
Politicians and Cops are not necessary!
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the sunshine,
with delicate
rays and the
sound of a
light breeze:
and this is
my care, when
everything
shines and the
night fades
away.
Francesco Sinibaldi
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Posted by: Paul_Stanford on Jun 20, 2009 12:59 PM
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Since the flowers of the cannabis plant are the most abundant site of production of THC, when they bred out the flowers they also bred out the THC. However, since the flowers are also where the seeds for the plant come from, the low-THC, almost flowerless plants don't produce nearly as much seed as higher-THC varieties. Low-THC hemp also produces half as much fiber as higher-THC varieties.
By breeding out the THC and flowers, these low-THC plants have bred out most seed production. No flowers, no THC, but no seeds too.
Hempseed is clearly the most productive source of plant oil and protein. While low-THC hemp only produces an average of 600 pounds of hempseed per acre, a study from Notre Dame University published in The Midlands Naturalist of wild hemp in central Illinois showed that feral hemp produces 8,000 of hempseed per acre. It is clear that if cannabis hemp were allowed to be bred for the best seed production varieties, hemp is capable of producing much more than 8,000 pounds per acre.
Cannabis seed is 30 percent oil by weight. When one cold-presses 8,000 pounds of hempseed, the result is over 300 gallons of oil and three tons of residual hempseed protein.
Currently, the most productive seed oil production species are soybeans, sunflower seeds and rapeseed/canola, each of which is capable of producing 100-120 gallons of plant oil per acre. Hempseed can produce at least 300 gallons per acre. Hempseed is the most productive source of plant oil.
The byproducts of producing 300 gallons of hempseed oil per acre are 3 tons of high-protein hemp meal from the seed, and 10 tons of hemp bast fiber and 25-30 tons of hemp hurd fiber, from the stalks and stems. The bast fiber of hemp is akin to the bark of a tree, while the hurd fiber is from the inner woody core of the hempstalk.
Hemp bast fiber has been used for at least over 12,000 years for cordage and cloth. Ancient pottery fragments from China have hemp fiber embedded in them. Hemp bast fiber has long been cultivated for canvas, rope, lace and linen. By law, all tobacco cigarettes must be rolled in paper made from hemp or flax fiber, and about half of all the world's tobacco cigarettes are made with hemp bast fiber paper.
Hempseed protein has more digestible protein than any other plant source, with an EFA (essential fatty acid) profile that, according to Dr. Urdo Erasmus' book, 'Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill', hempseed protein is nature's most perfectly balanced source of protein for human health.
According to the US Dept. of Agriculture's Bulletin 404, hemp hurd produces more than 4 times more paper per acre than the most productive tree species.
USDA Bulletin 404 was published in 1916, which not so coincidentally is the time when the first anti-marijuana laws began to be promulgated.
Hempseed is the best, most productive source of bio-diesel fuel. Is it any wonder that the petrochemical industries whipped up the anti-marijuana scare?
If we replace these destructive petrochemical alternatives with alternatives from hemp, hemp will feed and save the world!. The sooner we act to restore hemp, the better for life of Earth!
Paul Stanford
www.hemp.org
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Posted by: feifei on Jun 21, 2009 6:56 PM
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and lotro powerleveling
service.You can come and have a look!
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Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Jun 22, 2009 3:26 AM
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This country has not been forward thinking since the Reagan "feel good" about ourselves, "yea Amerikkka" years.
Good luck with any progress in a religious, corporate oligarchy. Bam-Bam has not made one progressive decision yet, and is just a pimp for the corporations and the backward thinking religious.
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Posted by: arthurjhanks on Jun 22, 2009 8:39 AM
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Canada has several breeding programs in place accessing diverse genetics drawn from across the world. over the mid term, you'll see more consistent higher yields.
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Posted by: Suzon on Jun 18, 2009 1:37 AM
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I love the idea of hempcrete!
Democratize the corporations and take away their power to buy the bulk of our politicians and we just might have an outbreak of Common Sense.
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Posted by: yannicus on Jun 18, 2009 2:02 AM
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The thousand and one usages you describe aren't financially viable when compared to the mighty petrochemical industry's cheap products.
Its tragic, but its reality.
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Posted by: paulmagillsmith on Jun 18, 2009 3:33 AM
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Posted by: shine0854 on Jun 18, 2009 3:42 AM
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The Emperor Wears No Clothes....published years ago has been largely ignored by the mainstream....even ignored by NORML because of the 'counter culture' author Jack Herer.....
It is unfortunate that the public views the cannabis culture as something other than mainstream. The current drug laws have incarcerated someone out of nearly every family in the US and everyone is aware of the problems associated with drug abuse. Marijuana is classified along with the really dangerous substances and that has stood in the way of any serious debate about it becoming legalized.
We must overcome this "Anslinger" view and regard cannabis as it really is, an herb......
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Posted by: aaweeble1 on Jun 18, 2009 4:28 AM
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Posted by: bcainw on Jun 18, 2009 4:55 AM
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"We have met the enemy, and he is us."
Chris Conrad is part of Oaksterdam, a groups that is behind the "tax and regulate" model of Marijuana Re-Legalization. His wife Miki recieves funds from Soros who is also very much behind the "tax and regulate" model.
Yet if Hemp (e.g., Cannabis or Marijuana) is to realize its full potential it must simply be legal for everyone to grow without any taxation or regulation.
We are at a crossroads in history right now. Do we allow the Multi-National Corporations to control every aspect of our lives or do we demand the full liberation of Cannabis?
Unfortunately if we want Cannabis Liberation we must recognize that the the moneyed drug reform organizations are currently a hinderance, not a ally. It is up to the grass roots to make sure that Marijuana, in all of its forms (e.g., Industrial, Agricultural, Medicinal and Recreational) is allowed to move forward without ANY taxation, regulation or other forms of government interference.
The moneyed groups (e.g., NORML, DPA, MPP etc.) do not support a "no tax, no regulate" model. Sorry, but facts are facts.
If you really want to see the "healing of all nations" then you need to get on board with the MERP Movement to completely Re-Legalize Mother Nature's favorite plant.
To join go to this link and get on the mailing list. The battle must be joined now for the sake of our children and their children's children.
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Posted by: MyLeftFoot on Jun 18, 2009 5:03 AM
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if the hemp draws the heavy metals up into the plant, does it 'digest' it? or does the heavy metals sit in the plant so when it's composted or burned the heavy metals are returned to either the soil (in a different location maybe) or left in the ash after being burned?
or, how would the plants be dealt with after growing in a toxic environment?
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Posted by: bcainw on Jun 18, 2009 5:22 AM
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How to Make Marijuana Free and Legal for For All Adults Within A Year
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Posted by: PJAW on Jun 18, 2009 5:43 AM
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Anyone who has not taken the time to educate themselves on this topic ought to do so, and spread the information to others. More articles on this subject, please.
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Posted by: xvictor on Jun 18, 2009 5:48 AM
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(2) They have an agenda (pro-oil, pro-cotton, pro-Monsanto, etc)
(3) Repug
Factual knowledge is important. If we can deal with #1, it's likely #2 and #3 will slither back into the gutter and the nation will progressively move forward.
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Posted by: vspoils on Jun 18, 2009 5:47 AM
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America, the dutiful slaves. Get a spine America. Demand change! Yeah, REAL CHANGE, not that phony balony BS the Obamaton is spewing. Have we seen any change? Will we? Not bloody likely. We must BE the change.
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Posted by: annejohnson on Jun 18, 2009 6:58 AM
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Posted by: chiefwanadubie on Jun 18, 2009 7:08 AM
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Protectionism replaced free enterprise, with propaganda, to create our corporate monopoly system, that has destroyed Americas sovereignty!!!
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Posted by: littlepitcher on Jun 18, 2009 7:14 AM
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Nitrate toxicity in water and air is a growing problem in agricultural areas.
Other than that, it sounds like a good deal.
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Posted by: vasumurti on Jun 18, 2009 7:21 AM
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Hemp has many economic uses. It contains the longest fiber in the plant kingdom and is one of the strongest and most durable. It can be used for commercial and industrial applications, including insulation, textiles, clothing, and rope. The fiber and pulp can be used to manufacture nondeteriorating paper using a relatively pollution-free process. The plant can also be used for biomass applications. Its seeds yield oil similar to linseed, which can be used in many commercial and industrial applications. In Eastern Europe and Central Asia, the seeds have been used for human consumption.
"Hemp. It's marijuana's nonspyschoactive sister," writes Ed Rosenthal. "You couldn't get a buzz if you smoked a bale of hemp, but it's still illegal to grow it in the United States." Industrial hemp is legally grown in over thirty countries. For thousands of years, people grew hemp and prospered. It flourishes without pesticides. Thomas Jefferson considered hemp so vital to America that he risked his life to smuggle hemp seeds out of France. George Washington grew hemp and instructed his caretaker at Mount Vernon: "Make the most of the hemp seed. Sow it everywhere."
Industrial hemp was first grown in Kentucky 250 years ago. It is currently grown in other countries across the globe, including France, England, Canada, Australia, China, Hungary and the Ukraine. Industrial hemp has virtually no THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. It cannot be used as a drug. None of the countries that allow industrial hemp production have experienced any drug problems relating to the crop.
Using modern processing techniques, hemp can be used in place of petrochemicals. Instead of synthetic plastics made from oil, we can use natural fiber and processed bioplastic derivatives. Plastics and polyester rely on foreign oil, while cotton consumes enormous amounts of water, fertilizer, herbicides, and pesticides.
Industrial hemp is very clean, easy to grow and is one of the most environmentally sound sources of industrial fiber in the world. Environmentally friendly detergents, plastics, paints, varnishes, cosmetics, and textiles are already being made from it in Europe. Industrial hemp can meet our fiber needs while also revitalizing our struggling rural economies.
Hemp is already being used in place of trees for pressboard, particleboard, and core concrete construction molds. Paper made from hemp is acid-free, stronger and lasts far longer than paper made from trees. Hemp fabrics are far stronger and more resistant to mold than any other natural fiber. Builders in France and Germany use hemp for construction material, replacing drywall and plywood.
Hemp can be used to manufacture plastic plumbing pipe, replacing such toxic materials as polyvinyl chloride (PVC). Hemp fiber is already being used in place of glass fiber in surfboards and snowboards. Hemp could also provide the resin itself.
For ideological reasons, the federal government refuses to allow farmers to grow hemp despite the fact that industrial hemp is currently grown legally worldwide. The George W. Bush administration took anti-hemp policy to a new extreme, attempting unsuccessfully to ban the import of hemp foods and cosmetics. Erwin "Bud" Sholts, director of the Wisconsin Agriculture Department's marketing division, said hemp "is the most value-added, prolific fiber crop man can grow." Sholts acknowledged that hemp is an emotional issue, but points out that "other nations with drug laws as tough or tougher than ours have overcome this hurdle."
Anti-drug hysteria should not blind the public to the commercial and industrial applications of hemp.
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Jun 18, 2009 7:33 AM
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Severely corrupt governments + corporations are why so many people are suffering!!! There are abundant resources on this planet for EVERYONE to have clean water, food, shelter, decent jobs, medical care, etc.!!!
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Posted by: maxpayne on Jun 18, 2009 7:56 AM
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MR. OBAMA, TEAR DOWN THIS DRUG WAR WALL AND IMMEDIATELY REPLACE YOUR VP WHO'S A DRUG CZAR ! EITHER RESPECT MOTHER EARTH AND GOD BY GIVING THE POWERFUL PLANT OF PEACE, CANNABIS TO BE RETURNED TO LEGAL STATUS OR GET READY TO FACE THEIR WRATH COME 2012 !!
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Posted by: picket on Jun 18, 2009 8:07 AM
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Hemp milk is made with IMPORTED hemp seed and is not for the thrifty shopper, in our supermarket it is $4.00 qt, so much for a free Capitalist society!!!
Re our competition the Chinese in 2007 planned for the next five years for hemp fiber to reach 1.5 million tons and for its consumption to reach 20% of cotton fiber consumption. You can trade with China's hemp fiber on line. So much for freedom in this good ole USA !!!
Our hard working farmers and the American consumer wait patiently[???] for our so-called elected leaders to face reality and come to their senses.
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Jun 18, 2009 8:28 AM
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I was thinking of taking a little bit of hemp protein powder and blending it in with my garden soil on my topsy turvey since I don't have a garden. I wonder if that will yield even healthier vegetables.
And thank you for alerting the public to Ron Paul's valiant push to legalize industrial hemp. Like maxpayne said earlier, the chances of legalizing hemp are as good as passing single payer health care but it is time to call your representative and tell them to support HR 1866 and let your voices be heard loud and clear.
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Posted by: Noah_Scape on Jun 18, 2009 8:33 AM
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There is no THC content, by the way [sorry, but it isn't good to be high ALL day anyhow].
What they DO have is the most perfect blend of Omega 3, 6, and 9 Oils of any food on earth, including fish. They have lots of fibre too. Any healthy eating expert who does not mention Hemp Seed Hearts is being negligent.
Heart disease and cholesterol and many other health concerns will be reduced by eating hemp seed hearts. Perhaps the AMA knows that the medical industry would lose business if hemp hearts were legal in America.
[and no, I do not have any business interest in hemp seeds or hemp oils]
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Posted by: frankly1 on Jun 18, 2009 8:42 AM
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I still can't get my head wrapped around the fact that a country that calls itself free can make a PLANT illegal.
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Jun 18, 2009 8:52 AM
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I still have some brochures that the local county extension office produced to advise farmers on how to grow hemp.
Dad often mentioned how well hemp grew around here and how he couldn't understand how after the war it was suddenly banned.
Wild hemp still grows as a weed in ditches and waste places around here.
Hemp would be an ideal alternative cash crop option for where I live. My dad said that it grows so vigorously that it out-competes weeds so that no herbicides are needed. Also, in Nebraska we tend to get hot and dry in July and August. Corn and soybeans require irrigation at this time to produce maximum yields. Hemp, on the other hand, LOVES it when it is hot and dry. Not having to irrigate it unlike other crops would save vast amounts of water and energy resources.
Another advantage is that most of the equipment that farmers already use is readily adaptable to hemp culture. The planting machines and hay harvesting equipment that is already on the farms can be used for hemp production. Thus, farmers do not have to invest in any heavy capital outlays for new equipment.
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Posted by: TJColatrella on Jun 18, 2009 12:14 PM
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This would create a lot of new green jobs and that includes the refineries that would spring up regionally and refining our fuel regionally is good for National Security..!
We can enhance our energy independence and also our national security and help the economy by lifting this really stupid draconian regressive ban on Industrial Hemp...
Add that to wind and solar and we have a great start on a new intelligent future if someone could just convince Obama to join the 21st Century. and stop serving these 19th century robber barons he surrounds himself with..
http://hemp4fuel.com/
Grow Here, Grow Now..!
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Posted by: P.E.A.C.E. on Jun 18, 2009 4:18 PM
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Google "Global Broiling" to find the California Cannabis Ministry blog that expands on this major threat to our immune systems, DNA, and normal physiological development.
Cannabis grown in rotation with other crops breaks the cycle of pests that otherwise grow unrestricted from year to year. Cannabis also yields pesticides to protect other crops from insects, making it possible to convert from chemical to organic agriculture.
Protein production from hemp seed could replace at least a portion of the beef protein, making methane production from cattle (25X more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2) less of a problem.
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Posted by: Bill4 on Jun 18, 2009 4:20 PM
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The thing about hemop is that although there are lots of things it can be used for, there is almost always something better and/or cheaper and more practicle to use. Hemp makes good paper, but is it a serious threat to paper made with wood pulp anywhere in the world, even in CHina or Russia where they have cheap labor? Heck no. If you buy hemp paper anywhere what you are going to get 99% of the time is wod pulp based paper with a littel bit of hemp in it, and it's going to cost more than plain old wood pulp based paper.
I'd love for hemp to be the wonderplant people paint it out to be, but it is just not. In many countries where they grow hemp, including Canada, they actually had to cut production because they had flooded the limited market and drove prices so low that farmers were losing money growing it. In some contires they actually subsidize hemp. Why would a wonderplant that can be used for anything need government subsidies?
Mostly hemp is used in novelty products people buy because they think it's cool to buy stuff with hemp in it. Usually these products are overpriced, or they only have a tiny bit of hemp in them. You pay for the novelty of having the hemp.
It's just not all it's cracked up to be, and I just hope people will look into this before they use it as their main argument for why marijuana should be legal. It's a terribly weak argument, one people can shoot full of holes. Don't make the "hemp will save the world" argument because it is bogus and will destroy your credibility. Throw in the fact that hemp is a useful crop our farmers ought to be able to grow, but don’t argue it will replace oil, replace wood pulp for paper, etc. If it was going to do all these things we’d already see it going on in countries where it is legal and our big corporations would be pushing like crazy for it to be legal here so they could make a killing from it too.
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Posted by: robbrian on Jun 18, 2009 4:58 PM
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Is it a far stretch to suggest that if decisionmakers endanger this society's security through massive deficits and debt service payments that limit the availability of funds for our domestic and foreign war effort that doing so is tantamount to treason?
Hemp was NOT banned in 1937 because it was a harmful drug. Hemp was banned because it was a competitive threat to the fossil fuel, wood products, and newly developed synthetic fiber industries that were patentable, were marketable through existing channels and, therefore, more profitable than hemp.
With wholesale oil cost escalating industrial hemp is now competitive and should be treated like ethanol for corn or other renewables since it has an almost zero carbon footprint.
Unfortunately, millions of Americans still believe the lies spread about marijuana/hemp by Harry Anslinger,the Director of the original Federal Bureau of Narcotics, I.E Dupont, who had millions in synthetic patents, and Randolh Hearst, who had millions of acres of timber land to feed his newspaper empire.
On the eve of marijuana prohibition in the U.S., two articles about hemp appeared in major U.S. magazines. They were:
“The Most Profitable And Desireable Crop That Can Be Grown” From: Mechanical Engineering, February 26, 1937
“New Billion Dollar Crop” From: Popular Mechanics, February 1938
These articles reveal that hemp was on the verge of becoming a super crop because of new hemp processing technologies that were recently developed. Unfortunately, the potential of hemp was never reaped because of marijuana prohibition.
Hemp is legally grown for commercial use throughout much of Europe, India, China, Russia, Ukraine. In 1994 the Canadian government approved one experimental hemp field - its first legal hemp crop in 40 years. In 1995, there will be 11 government-approved hemp fields in Canada! If the U.S. does not legalize hemp for commercial use, a significant economic and environmental opportunity will be lost; the benefits will be reaped only by our economic competitors.
Literally millions of wild hemp plants grow throughout the entire Midwest today. Wild hemp, like hemp grown for commercial use, is USELESS as an intoxicant. It makes no sense to ban growing a plant that has enormous economic and environmental potential, grows naturally by the millions, and is impossible to exterminate. But yet, our draconian drug laws state that one acre of hemp grown on a person’s property can result in the owner being sentenced to DEATH! That’s correct, the DEATH PENALTY exists for growing one acre of nonintoxicating weeds!
U.S. Presidents and founding fathers George Washington and Thomas Jefferson grew hemp, used hemp products, and were hemp advocates. Today’s political leaders—as well as the public that favors marijuana prohibition—would treat George Washington and Thomas Jefferson with disdain, brand them criminals, and throw them in prison!
FACT: NO TREE OR PLANT SPECIES ON EARTH HAS THE COMMERCIAL, ECONOMIC, AND ENVIRONMENTAL POTENTIAL OF HEMP. OVER 30,000 KNOWN PRODUCTS CAN BE PRODUCED FROM HEMP!
“Make the most of the hemp seed, sow it everywhere.” - George Washington, first president of the U.S. and a strong hemp advocate.
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Posted by: tokerdesigner on Jun 18, 2009 6:31 PM
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As the name BUSHWATER implies, slender sticks, twigs, brush, stubble etc. would be picked up, clipped (with anvil pruner, ratchet pruner, handsaw and hatchet), bundled and carted to seasonally dry gullies, ravines, creekbeds etc.
No offense is meant to our former commander in chief, rather he might be an excellent selection to head the new agency overseeing this project. In July 2001, a wirephoto showed George W., hatchet in hand, with the headline: "Bush Takes a Whack at Forest Fires." In a later quote he chided those who carelessly allow "kindling" to accumulate on the land.
Deadwood and underbrush would be divided when harvested into categories:
* Strong firm roundwood (including logs and branches narrower than those usually harvested by big lumber companies) to be bundled and shipped to town for use in carpentry and manufacturing
* Weathered, rotted wood to be chipped and shredded, using machines designed to be transportable on a forklift-truck over up-to-four-foot-wide roadways built with scrap pallets, plywood etc. so they can be installed and used out in the forest near the streams to be treated
* Selected amounts of the above to be pulverized into woodflour (trade term for "sawdust"), also usable in composting
* Thin stock-- brush, stubble etc. bundled where harvested and delivered by lifttruck to stream bed
Stream beds would be filled starting with a foot or two of woodflour, which at time of infrequent rain will capture water which otherwise would have run off. Next above that, a layer of a foot or more of chips, shreds etc. to weigh down the powder and prevent it escaping downstream at rain time. Next above that, many feet hight of bundled brush. On top is a good place to lay a series of pallets, pave the surface with one or more layers of nailed-down plywood, and thus provide a roadway by which the lift truck can travel from the Camp Zero location, which would be wherever a streambed in the program intersects with a highway by which trucks can deliver the above cited equipment and take away lumber.
The water trapped in this way would remain in the uplands, evaporate there, and feed rainfall making those areas moist.
Now what you've been waiting for: GAIH (government-approved industrial hemp) would be seeded into the brushstructure, along with other notorious fast-growing invasive plants like WLLW (weepy long-leaf watertree), shaky quaky spadeleaf watertree (aspen, cottonwood etc.), ancient Chinese Jewtown watertree (ailanthus, or the Tree That Grew On Maxwell Stereet), tangy toke-leaf desert tree (eucalyptus) etc. A series of green mounds like fingers would creep over and reforest the West and every desert on planet.
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Posted by: Canute on Jun 18, 2009 7:01 PM
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For comparison and a sense of scale, if we took our entire U.S. corn crop and turned it into ethanol we would net about 8% of our gasoline demand - and we wouldn't have any corn to eat or export. We are mining the soil with our national corn crop anyway - it isn't sustainable.
Whatever you want to grow - hemp, soybeans, corn, switchgrass, algae - there just isn't enough land, water, and nutrient flow to replace the 20 million barrels of oil we consume every day. It's a basic problem of biosphere capacity.
The problem will solve itself, but not in a nice way. In the future we'll be spending a lot of time walking.
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Posted by: whealeydj on Jun 18, 2009 9:26 PM
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» Keep your reefer madness mouth shut. This country's fucked because of it.
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Jun 19, 2009 10:38 AM
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Hemp shirts sold for 12 cents in the old days,cotton was almost $20. Most fine lace was made from hemp. Every rope that was used on the newly formed Navy in the 1700's was made from hemp. As were the sails,crew uniforms and cooking flour. Every sailor from Spanish times on had a vial of hemp seeds around his neck. Why? So if they should become stranded on some island they could grow the clothes,food and sails they would need to rescue themselves or survive until a ship passed by. Try and survive with a vial of oil around your neck.
The Declaration of Independance copies that were handed out to those who supported the Revolution were made from hemp paper. Which by the way still look as fresh today as they did when printed in the 1770's. Try that with the New York Times,that rag would fall apart after ten years.
Oil from hemp lit every home for hundreds of years. Later it becamwe the fuel of choice for Diesel's new engine. Henery Ford developed a car made from hemp plastic, running on hemp oil and could take a 100 mph crash, can you Hybrid do that? probably not.
There are a lot of misinformed people that will tell you the hemp movement is pushing pot as a 'miracle product'. Sorry folks we're just filling in the blanks in your history. We have no need to lie to you,that's the government's job. We have nothing to gain by lyimng to you. We do however have a Planet to re-gain if we pass the legalization of hemp for all it's uses.
We gain cleaner air, less field runoffs into ground water, longer lasting clothes,which if you're one of the worker bees, is a good value. We gain a better bio fuel for diesel running cars and trucks, a healthier flour, an excellent pacifier of angry moods which will greatly reduce police calls for 'Domestic Disturbances' and just maybe we'll get back some of that long cherished but mostly resigned to 'folklore'...FREEDOM
Can oil do that?? So far all I've seen is greedy bastards getting fantastically wealthy,the air,water and land being poisoned. Clothing created that make folks have allergic reactions,healthcare products that do the same
and the slow motion death of every living thing
from the use of oil and all it's by-products.
maybe a math equation would get the point across better, so here goes;
OIL = DEATH or HEMP = LIFE
Choose wisely,the life you save or end may be your grandchildren's!!
Jeffrey7
OTMegazine.com
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Posted by: Conrad on Jun 19, 2009 1:46 PM
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FYI, Jack Herer's book The Emperor Wears No Clothes was out of print in 1990 when I helped revive it by designing, editing and collaborating in its rewrite including the "Many Uses of Hemp" page that was originally one of my Business Alliance for Commerce in Hemp -- BACH -- handouts. (BTW, NORML gave Herer a lifetime achievement award, has featured him as a speaker, and has honored his book -- although Jack rarely shares that credit with those of us who made it happen.) I wrote Hemp: Lifeline to the Future and Hemp for Health, both of which advocate for industrial hemp to be fully developed. I was a co-founder and first President of the Hemp Industries Assn. I designed and curated the Hash, Marihuana and Hemp Museum in Amsterdam to represent hemp interests. I devised a "hemp sustainability" economic proposal that was considered by government officials in Haiti, Jamaica and Cuba, but all three declined to implement it due to fears of a US invasion if they did so. Only the most profound ignorance of my activities would explain the comment posted below, yet I've worked with Bruce Cain, so ignorance is not an excuse. Maybe he should have gotten some sleep before posting his remarks.
No, the "enemy within" isn't activists not signing on to other people's campaigns; it's posting unwarranted attacks against colleagues and allies in such a way as to undermine their work, weaken our community, and and thereby lend suport to cannabis prohibitionists.
To reiterate, I have formed organizations, campaigned, written books, lobbied and worked on ballot measures to fully restore hemp. In my opinion, marijuana use by adults should be regulated in a manner similar to but less stringent than the controls on alcohol. I don't mind when my work is overlooked, but don't post any more falsehoods about me or my wife, please. Thanks. -- Chris Conrad
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Posted by: paulmagillsmith on Jun 19, 2009 3:43 PM
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For all of you on Facebook (or other 'social' sites) I would suggest you add this article to your homepage. I did yesterday, and already have over a half-dozen comments...all positive. Make your time spent on the net count for something by spreading useful information.
Most people in this country are ignorant about hemp because of the massive & sustained disinformation campaign by corporate interests going back about 70 years. The reaction from most people, when I start listing the merits of industrial hemp is, "WOW! I didn't know that." Without information activism goes off half-cocked. It's a game of numbers, and the truth will free us, so educate, educate, educate!
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Posted by: DdC on Jun 19, 2009 8:42 PM
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Walters, Limpbog and O'Really lie, flat out bold face and without apology because its the ends justifying the means in their world. Those who will not read have nothing over those who can not read. Oaksterdam or Oklahoma? When the war is over, the price will settle down to a commodity price. But don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Pioneers like Jack Herer, Bill Conde and Chris Conrad deserve nothing but respect. Soros and the other two wealthy game players no doubt have different intentions than most of us working stiffs. But damn, ammo's ammo. It's like bitching about clean air and water. Duh! Now as far as Hemp, not included in the 1937 Tax Act, lumped in by Ricardo Mouse Nexxon, Liberty Killer.
OK kiddies one more time. Repeat after me.... Anything and I do mean anyfuckingthing made from nasty sulfur emitting fossil fools crud oil hydrocarbons can be made out of nice friendly homegrown carbohydrates. Giving staples to poor Mexicans who won't have to scare the Loe Dobbs ditto isolationists. Or supplement the Indians and reduce the addictions providing treatment. No need for family farmers to sell out to developers or go bankrupt. No need to kill America with Monsanto and Dupont poisons.
Biomass using the vegetable matter converting it into alcohol, not corn the least producing biomass, sabotage plan. 90% of the "stills" operating in the 20's produced auto and tractor fuel. Not booze. Booze Prohibition was basically fabricated by Rockefeller, financing the temperance league with a $5 million contribution. Coincidence or darn lucky it paved the way for no viable alternative to gasoline and diesel. Oil plants like Hemp seed, peanuts safflower etc. are bio-diesel and Willie Nelson is trying to localize the truckers using it in Texas of all places.
Most of the imported crud is for plastic we trash. Clothing and flags that melt. Pesticides for cotton. An Island is forming in the ocean from all of the years of dumping and not dealing with it. More scams for profit, but don't get me started. So simply put, we can grow biodegradable cellophane plastic and use it for pesticides and paint bases. Hemp is the major threat because of its versatility. Not only essential fatty acids Omega 3, 6 and 9 in the seed, the oil content for food grade use, skin care or lubricants and a great furniture polish. Then the different fibers and source of cellulose for paper. Plywood and beams stronger than trees, and a greater yield. Clothing, softer with greater tensile strength than cotton and without the 90 million pounds of poisons sprayed onto pregnant women and kids.
So much for hypocrite clinic bombers, they're more abortionists and have killed more babies than Roe V Wade. Ever tempting Nature with idiotic remedies to rid the planet of this vital competition to a few of the real Fascist, totally paying for private PDFA propaganda groups and freaks like Calvina and the access to drug worriers selected for their connections with the card board frankenfoods or plastic clothing. Greed and Enron ethics run the Ganjawar fraud.
Ganja/Hemp
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Posted by: DdC on Jun 19, 2009 8:51 PM
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arno the corporatist
pesticideabortionists
The growers are the real public servants and taking the risk in spite of Oblamo's backing off there is always a Jerry Brownose lurking to cash in and exploit. If a relaxed atmosphere Like Oakland can take place, more power to them. Like the not warring Kerlikowske office poster says...
WE ARE AT WAR. ARE YOU DOING ALL YOU CAN?
Prohibit Elected Lobbyists and Yellow Journalism
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Hemp Video made in the Netherlands
Ore. Hemp Bill Clears Hurdle
By Mitch Lies, Capital Press June 18, 2009 Salem
A bill allowing production and possession of industrial hemp on Oregon farms has cleared the Legislature's budget-writing committee and was on the Senate floor at press deadline.
Bill sponsor Sen. Floyd Prozanski, D-Eugene, said he believes the bill will pass both chambers.
Further, Prozanski said he believes the Obama administration is poised to remove federal roadblocks to hemp production. continued...
I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country... Corporations have bee enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
-- Abraham Lincoln, November 12, 1864
The Elkhorn Manifesto
SHADOW OF THE SWASTIKA
Ford And Diesel Never Intended Cars To Use Gasoline
Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONSTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941.
Nixon lied to schedule Ganja #1
Chemical Cotton vs Organic Hemp 11/01/01
Cannabis Vs Trees
Hemp Car.org
Henry Ford's Hemp Car
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Posted by: DdC on Jun 19, 2009 8:54 PM
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9/26/07 arno215 112x460
HS 11362.5. (a) This section shall be known and may be cited as the Compassionate Use Act of 1996.
* has been recommended by a physician
* person's health would benefit
* or any other illness for which marijuana provides relief.
* no physician in this state shall be punished,
* Illegal possession and cultivation of marijuana,
shall not apply to a patient, or to a patient's primary caregiver
* upon the written or oral recommendation or approval of a physician
* The department shall establish and maintain a voluntary program for the issuance of identification cards to qualified patients who satisfy the requirements of this article and voluntarily apply to the identification card program.
* "Qualified patient" means a person who is entitled to the protections of Section 11362.5, but who does not have an identification card issued pursuant to this article.
* It shall not be necessary for a person to obtain an identification card in order to claim the protections of Section 11362.5.
* A qualified patient or a person with an identification card
* Any individual who provides assistance
* A designated primary caregiver who transports, processes, administers, delivers, or gives away marijuana for medical purposes
* (a) Subject to the requirements of this article, the individuals specified in subdivision (b) shall not be subject, on that sole basis, to criminal liability.
Politicians and Cops are not necessary!
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the sunshine,
with delicate
rays and the
sound of a
light breeze:
and this is
my care, when
everything
shines and the
night fades
away.
Francesco Sinibaldi
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Posted by: Paul_Stanford on Jun 20, 2009 12:59 PM
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Since the flowers of the cannabis plant are the most abundant site of production of THC, when they bred out the flowers they also bred out the THC. However, since the flowers are also where the seeds for the plant come from, the low-THC, almost flowerless plants don't produce nearly as much seed as higher-THC varieties. Low-THC hemp also produces half as much fiber as higher-THC varieties.
By breeding out the THC and flowers, these low-THC plants have bred out most seed production. No flowers, no THC, but no seeds too.
Hempseed is clearly the most productive source of plant oil and protein. While low-THC hemp only produces an average of 600 pounds of hempseed per acre, a study from Notre Dame University published in The Midlands Naturalist of wild hemp in central Illinois showed that feral hemp produces 8,000 of hempseed per acre. It is clear that if cannabis hemp were allowed to be bred for the best seed production varieties, hemp is capable of producing much more than 8,000 pounds per acre.
Cannabis seed is 30 percent oil by weight. When one cold-presses 8,000 pounds of hempseed, the result is over 300 gallons of oil and three tons of residual hempseed protein.
Currently, the most productive seed oil production species are soybeans, sunflower seeds and rapeseed/canola, each of which is capable of producing 100-120 gallons of plant oil per acre. Hempseed can produce at least 300 gallons per acre. Hempseed is the most productive source of plant oil.
The byproducts of producing 300 gallons of hempseed oil per acre are 3 tons of high-protein hemp meal from the seed, and 10 tons of hemp bast fiber and 25-30 tons of hemp hurd fiber, from the stalks and stems. The bast fiber of hemp is akin to the bark of a tree, while the hurd fiber is from the inner woody core of the hempstalk.
Hemp bast fiber has been used for at least over 12,000 years for cordage and cloth. Ancient pottery fragments from China have hemp fiber embedded in them. Hemp bast fiber has long been cultivated for canvas, rope, lace and linen. By law, all tobacco cigarettes must be rolled in paper made from hemp or flax fiber, and about half of all the world's tobacco cigarettes are made with hemp bast fiber paper.
Hempseed protein has more digestible protein than any other plant source, with an EFA (essential fatty acid) profile that, according to Dr. Urdo Erasmus' book, 'Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill', hempseed protein is nature's most perfectly balanced source of protein for human health.
According to the US Dept. of Agriculture's Bulletin 404, hemp hurd produces more than 4 times more paper per acre than the most productive tree species.
USDA Bulletin 404 was published in 1916, which not so coincidentally is the time when the first anti-marijuana laws began to be promulgated.
Hempseed is the best, most productive source of bio-diesel fuel. Is it any wonder that the petrochemical industries whipped up the anti-marijuana scare?
If we replace these destructive petrochemical alternatives with alternatives from hemp, hemp will feed and save the world!. The sooner we act to restore hemp, the better for life of Earth!
Paul Stanford
www.hemp.org
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Posted by: feifei on Jun 21, 2009 6:56 PM
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Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Jun 22, 2009 3:26 AM
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This country has not been forward thinking since the Reagan "feel good" about ourselves, "yea Amerikkka" years.
Good luck with any progress in a religious, corporate oligarchy. Bam-Bam has not made one progressive decision yet, and is just a pimp for the corporations and the backward thinking religious.
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Posted by: arthurjhanks on Jun 22, 2009 8:39 AM
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Canada has several breeding programs in place accessing diverse genetics drawn from across the world. over the mid term, you'll see more consistent higher yields.
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