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Why Does the Much-Touted Climate Bill Look Like It Was Stolen From the Republican Playbook?
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"Command and control" is a military term the Republicans long ago appropriated to caricature and condemn Democratic programs. Republicans like to contrast the Democrats' embrace of a command and control, regulation-based you-will-do-as-I-say-or-else strategy with their own, presumably, more effective market-based we-will-make-it-worthwhile-for-you-to-do-what-we-want approach.
Nowhere is the phrase "command and control" used more often and with more passion than when Republicans attack environmental regulation. The 2008 Republican Party platform, for example, declares, "Republicans caution against the doomsday climate change scenarios peddled by the aficionados of centralized command-and-control government."
Well, when it comes to climate change policy making, the Republican Party can justly claim a major victory for its philosophy. We may have a Democratic president and a Democratic Congress, but the American Clean Energy and Security Act of 2009 recently passed out of the House Energy and Commerce Committee is very much a Republican bill characterized by a paucity of sticks and a plethora of carrots.
In fact, President Barack Obama has publicly described the bill as his and the Democrats' preferred alternative to regulation. Without the bill, he has threatened, the EPA will directly regulate greenhouse-gas emissions, a power it was given by the Supreme Court in 2007 and which it announced it would exercise in April 2009. Indeed, the bill specifically prohibits Obama's EPA from regulating these emissions.
The bill's carbon-cap-and-trade provisions are by all reports its heart and soul. They exemplify a Republican approach: Don't tell polluters what to do, bribe them and hope they do what you want. Democrats have faked left and gone right.
The bill looks to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions by about 1 billion tons by 2020 and then gives away over 1 billion tons of carbon allowance to polluters free of charge. And then, adding insult to injury, it allows polluters to purchase 2 billion tons of carbon offsets, three-quarters of which could come from overseas. In other words, companies could satisfy the Act's provisions without reducing greenhouse-gas emissions within the United States at all, by buying offsets from other countries that will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to monitor!
To be successful, a market-based strategy must raise the price of carbon sufficiently to change corporate and personal behavior. But the bill clearly demonstrates the lack of political will in Washington to impose such a dramatic price increase. Indeed, the bill explicitly notes that the purpose for rewarding free allowances in such enormous quantities is to mitigate price increases.
As a result, the EPA estimates the bill would raise the price of a gallon of gasoline by about 20 cents. No one can suggest with a straight face that such a trivial price increase will change driving habits.
The plain truth is that the cap-and-trade provisions of the bill are ineffectual. They may even be pernicious because they would lock us into a convoluted and largely unworkable Republican-inspired global cap-and-trade architecture and a massive pollution permit giveaway program from which it will become increasingly difficult for us to extricate ourselves in the coming years.
An equally important political truth is that the cap-and-trade provisions are unnecessary. For while the Democrats have begun to embrace anti-regulation, market-based strategies, the evidence is clear that virtually all of the progress we've made in building a clean-energy society has been achieved a result of command-and-control policies.
The new federal vehicle fuel-efficiency mandate is a case in point. It alone could achieve about a third of the Act's greenhouse-gas reduction goals by 2020. And the impact could potentially be even greater because the federal government has given California the right to significantly raise those standards, something it may do as early as 2016, with the real prospect of 10 to 15 states following its lead.
Another federal mandate will increase the efficiency of light bulbs, and that could have a significant impact on GHG emissions. Over 50 percent of greenhouse gases that are generated by commercial buildings, for example, come from lighting those buildings.
The only sections of this bill worth saving are its few mandates, as hobbled as they are by Republican intervention. These include the nation's first renewable-electricity mandate, although in return for allowing this command-and-control provision into the bill, Republicans and some Democrats who vote Republican when it comes to taking on big corporations, managed to so neuter the mandate that it could be satisfied if just 12 percent of the nation's electricity is generated by renewable energy by 2020. That level will probably be achieved by the collective renewable electricity mandates already enacted by 28 states and the District of Columbia.
Another mandate in the bill requires new coal plants to reduce their CO2 emissions to levels so low that they could only be achieved with carbon capture-and-sequestration systems. However, again in return for Republican support (and that of Democrats from coal states), the provision affects only those coal plants permitted after 2020, several political lifetimes into the future. Nevertheless, it does send an important signal to the coal industry.
A largely overlooked but potentially very important provision of the bill will create our first national energy-related building code. The code will be far more energy-efficient than those in effect today, and all states and localities are mandated to make their own codes as energy efficient as the federal code. If this provision passes, more than 40 states will immediately have to dramatically upgrade their building codes and continuously improve them from 2014 onward.
Most environmental leaders and Democratic Party officials argue that we should support this bill no matter how imperfect because it represents an important, small step forward. Strip it of its cap-and-trade provisions and I would agree. Retain the cap-and-trade provisions and I see it as a giant step backward that may well hobble further progress in federal efforts to combat climate change for years to come.
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Posted by: Honky the Nihilist VI on Jun 6, 2009 12:22 AM
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» RE: any volunteers? On the "losing" side
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» watch the movie "idiocracy" by mike judge.
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Posted by: johnwinthrop on Jun 6, 2009 7:17 AM
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Paying higher taxes to get something new of value(health care) may be worth discussing. Paying higher taxes to receive less and live a lower life standard won't get to first base in the Unites States. Obama would like to transform us into a defacto socialist-Islamic republic. But he has been a little too eager. Enough love of private property remains in the US by ordinary people and enough desire to save for retirement, college or a new home that Obama blatant attempted heist of the wealth of working class families won't work.
The climate change bill(I'll use the popular term even though the "change" has been miniscule) is a tax bill. A regressive tax bill. A tax bill that taxes the 95% of taxpayers Obama's income tax plan claims not to tax. It's not only Obama's ears that are too big. It's his nose. It's growing. And growing.
Wait till this sucker of a bill is introduced and then he tries to legalized 20 million aliens. Not even NBC and its gushing tours of the White House and chats with Bo and the Prez will save this arrogant, proto-fascist administration. Larry Summers will have to expel the press for insuboridination, if stories continue of high taxes, high prices, energy costs that soar, and escalating Muslim wars.
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Posted by: waves16 on Jun 6, 2009 8:19 AM
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It enhances markets rather than hindering them. As a result, it would deliver more carbon reduction and do so less expensively than cap-and-trade would. I.e. it would be more powerful.
See this Cap-and-Trade vs Cap-and-Restructure link at that site for a comparison of the benefits of the two systems.
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Posted by: DaBear on Jun 6, 2009 10:47 AM
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Evil is still evil when one is "less" than the other. Shit is shit, be it one log or two.
This is the best the owning class can do?! Come on, people. Opt out. Fight this crap!
This is the same Baucusite logic for taking universal single payer off the table... somebody's gettin' a kick-back so they can sell you bullshit.
178-frakkin-9, dammit.
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Posted by: Antonio Sosa on Jun 6, 2009 1:24 PM
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Cap and trade represents huge taxes and cost increases, which will hurt mostly the poor and the middle class. Cap and trade will give dictatorial powers to Obama and will further enrich his billionaire friends (Gore, Soros, Goldman Sachs, Obama’s Chicago Climate Exchange friends, GE, etc.) -- all at our expense and at the expense of our children and grandchildren.
Cap and Trade “would be the equivalent of an atomic bomb directed at the U.S. economy—all without any scientific justification,” said famed climatologist Dr. S. Fred Singer. It would significantly increase taxes and the cost of energy, forcing many companies to close, thus increasing unemployment, poverty and dependence.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Jun 7, 2009 6:44 AM
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2. They're still free to pollute and no amount of charging them will stop them. They'll find plenty more ways to suck us dry monetarily speaking.
3. There are other sources of global warming besides carbon. What about nitrogen, chlorine, radioactive decay, etc ... ?
4. There are most likely plenty more loopholes that will keep the economic and ecological damage going which may explain why Wall Street, Big Oil, and most Republicans and Blue Dog Demos such as Dan Boren aren't complaining.
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Posted by: Hans B on Jun 7, 2009 3:08 PM
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So Europe adopted the cap and trade mechanism which the US wanted, and eight years down the road, it has proved to be a dismal failure. For one thing, the initial permits given to polluters were too high. Second, any polluter who risked going beyond his (already very high) permit could simply buy carbon credits from, say, China. This was simply done by fitting certain Chinese factories with filters. The result: China starting building its new factories without filters so that Europe would pay to put filters on the chimneys. Just an example. Another example: when oil and gas prices rose, last year, German utilities found it cheaper to revert to coal and to compensate the increased emissions by buying (by now ridiculously cheap) carbon credits. A final example: putting ethanol in your tank produces less emissions ONLY IF (as is the rule) you don't count the deforestation required to grow all that palm oil. Bottom line: the cap and trade mechanism in Europe may have actually increased CO2 emissions and in all cases produced less effect than practically any alternative policy one can think of. Any progress achieved in Europe was due to other policies, independent of cap and trade (renewables, building codes, high speed rail, public interest for CO2-free technologies, etc.).
Cap and trade, today, is only popular amongst those who don't want to do anything serious about global warming, but who nonetheless want to seem mildly environmental to an ignorant public.
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» But that won't stop Yassa Boss Obama
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» Good posts - cap and trade is too complex to work
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Posted by: danscanlan on Jun 7, 2009 7:56 PM
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Trading pollution credits was a demand of Al Gore when he showed up late to the Kyoto conference and derailed its efforts. These provisions are neither Democratic nor Republican -- they are corporate, implemented by their Democratic and Republican lobby-lackeys. To think otherwise is to fall prey to an orchestrated conversation designed to bolster the corporate bottom line, regardless of the damage done to life and Earth.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jun 9, 2009 7:05 PM
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"The bill's carbon-cap-and-trade provisions are by all reports its heart and soul. They exemplify a Republican approach: Don't tell polluters what to do, bribe them and hope they do what you want. Democrats have faked left and gone right.
"The bill looks to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions by about 1 billion tons by 2020 and then gives away over 1 billion tons of carbon allowance to polluters free of charge. And then, adding insult to injury, it allows polluters to purchase 2 billion tons of carbon offsets."
. . . . . . .
"Cap and trade" is like having someone at the other end of your swimming pool pay you so that they can move the water they just peed in from their end down to yours. We all live on the same planet, in the same "swimming pool," so to speak, so "cap-and-trade" is a shovel-sh*t-over-there" fraud, another bullsh*t captialistic way for middle men to make money. It is crap – literally.
We might as well, all of us, just get used to adapting to a much warmer, more weather-chaotic world, one with tropical diseases spreading into the northern climate zones and, as the seas rise, an increase in human conflicts around the world as great masses of population are forced to move inland from disappearing coastlines. Or rather, our children will have to learn to adapt to a more hostile world. This is the legacy our current business-addicted leadership will bequeath to us.
No one whom we laughingly (although it's not really funny..) call our "leadership" is the least bit interested in making the changes necessary to head off environmental calamity. The changes that are required just don't "pencil out" on their short-sighted bottom lines. Our leadership's failure to understand the problem, their dithering in the service of short-term profit, and the capitalistic fog that surrounds their heads and utterly blinds them to reality are just a few of the ways that they have failed us. We are on our own, and it is of little use to continue to listen to their excuses and lies. I had great hope for this latest administration, but events lately make me realize we are getting the same old B.S., just in a different, albeit more benign, package.
What will "pencil out" eventually (much sooner than any one of us realizes) is the death of life as we know it, as our capitalistic drunken bender will be successful in killing off our own "golden goose" – better known as the world that supports humans. The only question then will be: how many of us, or our children, will go with it?
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Posted by: keep_it_real on Jun 10, 2009 8:21 AM
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The main problem that some people have with this decision is that the government could have used this as a source of revenue. They chose not to, and as such the move cannot be demonized as a tax grab (although I personally think that the double dividend of taxing undesirable things is a good thing).
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Posted by: Paul_C on Jun 10, 2009 9:09 PM
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What is the answer? A third party movement to take back America from corporate power. People sense this is necessary. They sense it is coming. That is why Cheney tried to set up a police state - to thwart social revolution as corporations closed the noose.
We all have to accept the truth. It is beating us down day after day after day. How long until we have had enough?
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: Howl on Jun 11, 2009 8:14 AM
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For the most part (as indicated in the current bill), we expect the economic system to play out in our best interests. However the 'open' market functions under a very fundamental and basic rule: 'Whoever gets the goods to the market, cheapest and fastest wins the game'. And in this competitive marketplace corporations are driven toward short term profit by the executives, board and stockholders. This is hardly conducive to creating long-term solutions.
To build sustainable climate control (or population, energy, water or other resource controls), it is imperative that we create systems and means of global cooperative effort-- outside of the (economic) system that perpetuates the problems and abuses. Cap and trade is ludicrous!
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Posted by: Honky the Nihilist VI on Jun 6, 2009 12:22 AM
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» any volunteers?
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» RE: any volunteers?
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» RE: any volunteers? On the "losing" side
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» watch the movie "idiocracy" by mike judge.
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Posted by: johnwinthrop on Jun 6, 2009 7:17 AM
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Paying higher taxes to get something new of value(health care) may be worth discussing. Paying higher taxes to receive less and live a lower life standard won't get to first base in the Unites States. Obama would like to transform us into a defacto socialist-Islamic republic. But he has been a little too eager. Enough love of private property remains in the US by ordinary people and enough desire to save for retirement, college or a new home that Obama blatant attempted heist of the wealth of working class families won't work.
The climate change bill(I'll use the popular term even though the "change" has been miniscule) is a tax bill. A regressive tax bill. A tax bill that taxes the 95% of taxpayers Obama's income tax plan claims not to tax. It's not only Obama's ears that are too big. It's his nose. It's growing. And growing.
Wait till this sucker of a bill is introduced and then he tries to legalized 20 million aliens. Not even NBC and its gushing tours of the White House and chats with Bo and the Prez will save this arrogant, proto-fascist administration. Larry Summers will have to expel the press for insuboridination, if stories continue of high taxes, high prices, energy costs that soar, and escalating Muslim wars.
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Posted by: waves16 on Jun 6, 2009 8:19 AM
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It enhances markets rather than hindering them. As a result, it would deliver more carbon reduction and do so less expensively than cap-and-trade would. I.e. it would be more powerful.
See this Cap-and-Trade vs Cap-and-Restructure link at that site for a comparison of the benefits of the two systems.
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Posted by: DaBear on Jun 6, 2009 10:47 AM
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Evil is still evil when one is "less" than the other. Shit is shit, be it one log or two.
This is the best the owning class can do?! Come on, people. Opt out. Fight this crap!
This is the same Baucusite logic for taking universal single payer off the table... somebody's gettin' a kick-back so they can sell you bullshit.
178-frakkin-9, dammit.
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Posted by: Antonio Sosa on Jun 6, 2009 1:24 PM
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Cap and trade represents huge taxes and cost increases, which will hurt mostly the poor and the middle class. Cap and trade will give dictatorial powers to Obama and will further enrich his billionaire friends (Gore, Soros, Goldman Sachs, Obama’s Chicago Climate Exchange friends, GE, etc.) -- all at our expense and at the expense of our children and grandchildren.
Cap and Trade “would be the equivalent of an atomic bomb directed at the U.S. economy—all without any scientific justification,” said famed climatologist Dr. S. Fred Singer. It would significantly increase taxes and the cost of energy, forcing many companies to close, thus increasing unemployment, poverty and dependence.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Jun 7, 2009 6:44 AM
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2. They're still free to pollute and no amount of charging them will stop them. They'll find plenty more ways to suck us dry monetarily speaking.
3. There are other sources of global warming besides carbon. What about nitrogen, chlorine, radioactive decay, etc ... ?
4. There are most likely plenty more loopholes that will keep the economic and ecological damage going which may explain why Wall Street, Big Oil, and most Republicans and Blue Dog Demos such as Dan Boren aren't complaining.
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Posted by: Hans B on Jun 7, 2009 3:08 PM
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So Europe adopted the cap and trade mechanism which the US wanted, and eight years down the road, it has proved to be a dismal failure. For one thing, the initial permits given to polluters were too high. Second, any polluter who risked going beyond his (already very high) permit could simply buy carbon credits from, say, China. This was simply done by fitting certain Chinese factories with filters. The result: China starting building its new factories without filters so that Europe would pay to put filters on the chimneys. Just an example. Another example: when oil and gas prices rose, last year, German utilities found it cheaper to revert to coal and to compensate the increased emissions by buying (by now ridiculously cheap) carbon credits. A final example: putting ethanol in your tank produces less emissions ONLY IF (as is the rule) you don't count the deforestation required to grow all that palm oil. Bottom line: the cap and trade mechanism in Europe may have actually increased CO2 emissions and in all cases produced less effect than practically any alternative policy one can think of. Any progress achieved in Europe was due to other policies, independent of cap and trade (renewables, building codes, high speed rail, public interest for CO2-free technologies, etc.).
Cap and trade, today, is only popular amongst those who don't want to do anything serious about global warming, but who nonetheless want to seem mildly environmental to an ignorant public.
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» But that won't stop Yassa Boss Obama
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Posted by: danscanlan on Jun 7, 2009 7:56 PM
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Trading pollution credits was a demand of Al Gore when he showed up late to the Kyoto conference and derailed its efforts. These provisions are neither Democratic nor Republican -- they are corporate, implemented by their Democratic and Republican lobby-lackeys. To think otherwise is to fall prey to an orchestrated conversation designed to bolster the corporate bottom line, regardless of the damage done to life and Earth.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jun 9, 2009 7:05 PM
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"The bill's carbon-cap-and-trade provisions are by all reports its heart and soul. They exemplify a Republican approach: Don't tell polluters what to do, bribe them and hope they do what you want. Democrats have faked left and gone right.
"The bill looks to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions by about 1 billion tons by 2020 and then gives away over 1 billion tons of carbon allowance to polluters free of charge. And then, adding insult to injury, it allows polluters to purchase 2 billion tons of carbon offsets."
. . . . . . .
"Cap and trade" is like having someone at the other end of your swimming pool pay you so that they can move the water they just peed in from their end down to yours. We all live on the same planet, in the same "swimming pool," so to speak, so "cap-and-trade" is a shovel-sh*t-over-there" fraud, another bullsh*t captialistic way for middle men to make money. It is crap – literally.
We might as well, all of us, just get used to adapting to a much warmer, more weather-chaotic world, one with tropical diseases spreading into the northern climate zones and, as the seas rise, an increase in human conflicts around the world as great masses of population are forced to move inland from disappearing coastlines. Or rather, our children will have to learn to adapt to a more hostile world. This is the legacy our current business-addicted leadership will bequeath to us.
No one whom we laughingly (although it's not really funny..) call our "leadership" is the least bit interested in making the changes necessary to head off environmental calamity. The changes that are required just don't "pencil out" on their short-sighted bottom lines. Our leadership's failure to understand the problem, their dithering in the service of short-term profit, and the capitalistic fog that surrounds their heads and utterly blinds them to reality are just a few of the ways that they have failed us. We are on our own, and it is of little use to continue to listen to their excuses and lies. I had great hope for this latest administration, but events lately make me realize we are getting the same old B.S., just in a different, albeit more benign, package.
What will "pencil out" eventually (much sooner than any one of us realizes) is the death of life as we know it, as our capitalistic drunken bender will be successful in killing off our own "golden goose" – better known as the world that supports humans. The only question then will be: how many of us, or our children, will go with it?
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Posted by: keep_it_real on Jun 10, 2009 8:21 AM
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The main problem that some people have with this decision is that the government could have used this as a source of revenue. They chose not to, and as such the move cannot be demonized as a tax grab (although I personally think that the double dividend of taxing undesirable things is a good thing).
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Posted by: Paul_C on Jun 10, 2009 9:09 PM
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What is the answer? A third party movement to take back America from corporate power. People sense this is necessary. They sense it is coming. That is why Cheney tried to set up a police state - to thwart social revolution as corporations closed the noose.
We all have to accept the truth. It is beating us down day after day after day. How long until we have had enough?
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: Howl on Jun 11, 2009 8:14 AM
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For the most part (as indicated in the current bill), we expect the economic system to play out in our best interests. However the 'open' market functions under a very fundamental and basic rule: 'Whoever gets the goods to the market, cheapest and fastest wins the game'. And in this competitive marketplace corporations are driven toward short term profit by the executives, board and stockholders. This is hardly conducive to creating long-term solutions.
To build sustainable climate control (or population, energy, water or other resource controls), it is imperative that we create systems and means of global cooperative effort-- outside of the (economic) system that perpetuates the problems and abuses. Cap and trade is ludicrous!
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