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The Case of the Missing H-Bomb: The Pentagon Has Lost the Mother of All Weapons

60 years have passed since a damaged jet dropped a hydrogen bomb near Savanah, Ga. -- and the Pentagon still can't find it.
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The cover-up continues. The Air Force, however, has told local residents and the congressional delegation that there was nothing to worry about.

"We've looked into this particular issue from all angles and we're very comfortable," said Major Gen. Franklin J. "Judd" Blaisdell, deputy chief of staff for air and space operations at Air Force headquarters in Washington. "Our biggest concern is that of localized heavy metal contamination."

The Air Force even has suggested that the bomb itself was not armed with a plutonium trigger. But this contention is disputed by a number of factors. Howard Dixon, a former Air Force sergeant who specialized in loading nuclear weapons onto planes, said that in his 31 years of experience he never once remembered a bomb being put on a plane that wasn't fully armed. Moreover, a newly declassified 1966 congressional testimony of W.J. Howard, then assistant secretary of defense, describes the Tybee Island bomb as a "complete weapon, a bomb with a nuclear capsule." Howard said that the Tybee Island bomb was one of two weapons lost up to that time that contained a plutonium trigger.

Recently declassified documents show that the jettisoned bomb was an "Mk-15, Mod O" hydrogen bomb, weighing four tons and packing more than 100 times the explosive punch of the one that incinerated Hiroshima. This was the first thermonuclear weapon deployed by the Air Force and featured the relatively primitive design created by that evil genius Edward Teller. The only fail-safe for this weapon was the physical separation of the plutonium capsule (or pit) from the weapon.

In addition to the primary nuclear capsule, the bomb also harbored a secondary nuclear explosive, or sparkplug, designed to make it go thermo. This is a hollow plug about an inch in diameter made of either plutonium or highly enriched uranium (the Pentagon has never said which) that is filled with fusion fuel, most likely lithium-6 deuteride. Lithium is highly reactive in water. The plutonium in the bomb was manufactured at the Hanford Nuclear Site in Washington State and would be the oldest in the United States. That's bad news: Plutonium gets more dangerous as it ages. In addition, the bomb would contain other radioactive materials, such as uranium and beryllium.

The bomb is also charged with 400 pounds of TNT, designed to cause the plutonium trigger to implode and thus start the nuclear explosion. As the years go by, those high explosives are becoming flaky, brittle and sensitive. The bomb is most likely now buried in 5 to 15 feet of sand and slowly leaking radioactivity into the rich crabbing grounds of the Warsaw Sound. If the Pentagon can't find the Tybee Island bomb, others might. That's the conclusion of Bert Soleau, a former CIA officer who now works with ASSURE, the salvage company. Soleau, a chemical engineer, said that it wouldn't be hard for terrorists to locate the weapon and recover the lithium, beryllium and enriched uranium, "the essential building blocks of nuclear weapons." What to do? Coastal residents want the weapon located and removed. "Plutonium is a nightmare and their own people know it," said Pam O'Brien, an anti-nuke organizer from Douglassville, Georgia. "It can get in everything--your eyes, your bones, your gonads. You never get over it. They need to get that thing out of there."

The situation is reminiscent of the Palomares incident. On January 16, 1966, a B-52 bomber, carrying four hydrogen bombs, crashed while attempting to refuel in mid-air above the Spanish coast. Three of the H-bombs landed near the coastal farming village of Palomares. One of the bombs landed in a dry creek bed and was recovered, battered but relatively intact. But the TNT in two of the bombs exploded, gouging 10-foot holes in the ground and showering uranium and plutonium over a vast area. Over the next three months, more than 1,400 tons of radioactive soil and vegetation was scooped up, placed in barrels and, ironically enough, shipped back to the Savannah River Nuclear Weapons Lab, where it remains. The tomato fields near the craters were burned and buried. But there's no question that due to strong winds and other factors much of the contaminated soil was simply left in the area. "The total extent of the spread will never be known," concluded a 1975 report by the Defense Nuclear Agency.

The cleanup was a joint operation between Air Force personnel and members of the Spanish civil guard. The U.S. workers wore protective clothing and were monitored for radiation exposure, but similar precautions weren't taken for their Spanish counterparts. "The Air Force was unprepared to provide adequate detection and monitoring for personnel when an aircraft accident occurred involving plutonium weapons in a remote area of a foreign country," the Air Force commander in charge of the cleanup later testified to Congress.


Jeffrey St. Clair is the author of Been Brown So Long It Looked Like Green to Me: the Politics of Nature and Grand Theft Pentagon. His newest book, Born Under a Bad Sky, is just out from AK Press / CounterPunch books. He can be reached at: sitka@comcast.net

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Movie exposes the true number of lost nukes
Posted by: sicntired on May 16, 2009 1:34 AM   
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I was watching a movie about the first bomb lost in B.C.Canada and aside from no confirmed recovery of the bomb in that case,they mentioned the Georgia case as well as several more.There are a very unhealthy number of nukes lying on the ocean floor and others where they know nothing about where they were lost.

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Surprised?
Posted by: folkie on May 16, 2009 2:01 AM   
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These are the folks that can lose a few trillion dollars and never notice it, so what did anyone expect? All they've lost are nukes, money, and wars--what about us? We've lost our minds if we keep giving them more nukes, money, and wars to lose.

Don't confuse what they've lost with what they're spending. When the Pentagon says it has lost $2.3 trillion, that means money that wasn't accounted for in any way, shape, or form. It means that their budget is so huge that $2.3 trillion is petty cash that they can easily overlook.

Gee, there's no money for a national health care plan. There's no money for Social Security or Medicare. Not a paltry dime to spend ensuring that the torture stops. But a few trillion for yacht parties and bonuses for billionaire crooks? Sure any time! Another few trillion to expand the defense budget? Why not?

And if that bomb explodes? So we'll have another Chernobyl only worse and right here at home. Expect the government to be just as helpful as it was in New Orleans with Hurricane Katrina--they'll rush in some private mercenaries to shoot anyone who tries to leave the area.

But don't you dare try to take your baby's bottle on the airplane, you friggin' terrorist--Homeland Security knows what to do with the likes of you! Why are you feeding a baby in the first place--you some kind of liberal pinko Commie who cares about kids? Family values means killing kids, bombing kids, nuking kids--that's how you make money. You must be some kinda stinking foreigner--no patriotic American cares about kids. Why do you think we can spend trillions on nukes but can't afford health care, because we care about kids?

Hey, be patient. Obama's gonna find that bomb just as soon as he finishes hiding the torture photos from Congress. Trust him! Maybe he didn't save the polar bears, but he never shot a wolf in his life. And anyway, the H-bombs we've lost are smaller than the ones we have now--they're obviously the lesser evil so you HAVE to support them. They might not be what you want, but they're all you're going to get.

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Can't find the nuke? They should just follow ...
Posted by: harryf200 on May 16, 2009 3:18 AM   
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... the three headed chickens.

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lost stuff...
Posted by: ellie on May 16, 2009 5:05 AM   
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besides the missing nukes, look at all the rest of the junk the pentagon has managed to loose... ok, so where did you guys last see (fill in the blank)... comforting thoughts... not to mention the $$ missing...

a 5 year old takes better care of their toys... that's it, no more toys till you guys find the stuff you lost... period...

back to coffee...

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Actually, this was 51 years ago.
Posted by: T.Rex on May 16, 2009 6:45 AM   
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They hadn't yet even invented the H-bomb 60 years ago, i.e. in 1949. This particular bomb was lost in early 1958, which was approximately 51 years ago.

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And don't forget the 'bomb' America has lost in Iraq and elsewhere
Posted by: fearn on May 16, 2009 7:59 AM   
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Like these 'lost' nuclear weapons depleted uranium is another 'lost' American source of radiation than will probably come back to haunt us.
Funny thing about Americans, they don't ask 'Why?' in a meaningful way. Why did I get cancer, 'oh I don't know I just want to get rid of it'. Why does America spend more on the military that the rest of the world put together? 'Oh, that's just the way it is'!!

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holy crap
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on May 16, 2009 8:24 AM   
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And to think....I feel guilty and inadequate when I lose my car keys.

Obviously, I need to not worry so dang much.

Maybe they should put me in charge of the freaking pentagon, anal-retentive organizational freak that I am!

We'll come up with a plan to put our nukes somewhere we KNOW we can find later. Like inside our purse that ALWAYS goes on the same shelf in the kitchen.

Granny's crazy videos Go get a chuckle!

Luv,
granny

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Lets ask Judy Miller ?
Posted by: weathered on May 16, 2009 8:35 AM   
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that stellar example of journalistic integrity.

May she wash the feet of those dying/injured and brutalized - here and there.

..and to the NYTimes, all the Lies fit to print. A paper that took a piss all over integrity and a allegiance of trust.

'by deceit we wage war' that's a chip off a toxic block that translates well in all MSM/PBS/NPR and the mother of all deceit:hollywood.
Examine screenplays and content, its diabolic.

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Does anybody wonder...
Posted by: Bloomshine on May 16, 2009 8:43 AM   
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...Why the hell do they keep flying nuclear weapons around the globe anyway?!

Do they just have jets flying around near constantly in case someone starts a nuclear war all of a sudden?

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Missing A-Bomb
Posted by: frank69 on May 16, 2009 8:47 AM   
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There's at least one missing A-Bomb in Alaska courtesy of a SAC B-50 which was picking up ice and consequently was losing altitude. So the flight crew jettisoned the big heavy bomb.

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Most Disgusting
Posted by: JSquercia on May 16, 2009 9:08 AM   
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To me the most disgusting part of the article was the treatment of the other personnel used in the Clean Up . to not provide them the same gear as our troops is surely indigative of the Pentagon's attitude towards anyone but their own . What was done to the Danish soldiers should be a crime and for us to dismiss their claims is unconcienable .

I whole heartedly agree with the posters who claim that this shows why we need to take an Axe to the Pentagon Budget . People who have no problem investing in Billion dollar aircraft that NO ONE wants

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Nuclear black market?
Posted by: kogwonton on May 16, 2009 9:29 AM   
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considering how trustworthy our military/intelligence/government/corporate handlers are, I'd be more inclined to wonder if most of those 'lost' nukes didn't go the way of a lot of other taxpayer funded projects - looted and sold to the highest bidder a'la Sgt. Bilko. As I recall Sibel Edmonds had a few things to say about that, but was gagged by the U.S. DoJ. I guess the fact that a nuclear black market operating out of the U.S. State Dept. in cohootz with the Turkish and Pakistanian embassies was somehow connected to the 'chatter' of the Sept. 11 attacks was just too much for the American sheep to handle. Bad enough that there was a 'fast track' system operating out of the U.S. embassy in Saudi Arabia and Jordan which granted visas to terrorists allowing them into the U.S. for training purposes. I have been watchful of any further news concerning the loading and shipment of armed nukes just a couple of years ago under GWB/Cheney's watch. I forget how many nukes were involved. Six? Eight? And how many 'accidents' involving the incredibly redundant security protocols had to happen to allow that little 'accident'?

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Check with Dick Cheney!
Posted by: nobuko on May 16, 2009 9:55 AM   
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Do you think for one SECOND Cheney does not have those missing nukes? Why do you think he is talking the crap he is talking? 9/11 was an INSIDE JOB, because they had ALL the INTEL to PREVENT 9/11 from happening!

Cheney keeps talking, BE AFRAID, BE AFRAID, this bastard is going to cause another 9/11 if Obama gets in his way in Iraq and Afganistan!

These evil doer's are as serious as cheneys pace maker, they WANT TO CONTROL IT ALL, and will DO WHATEVER IS NECESSARY, to CONTROL IT!

Have you wondered, how much is ENOUGH for these greedy bastards?

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This article needs fact check
Posted by: Tony44 on May 16, 2009 10:02 AM   
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"The fourth bomb landed eight miles offshore and was missing for several months. It was eventually located by a mini-submarine in 2,850 feet of water, where it rests to this day."
Sorry - this one was recovered by the Navy, photos were publicly released of it on the deck of the salvage tug.

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A Destroyer...?
Posted by: CanuckKid on May 16, 2009 11:43 AM   
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"...the Pentagon's inspector general reported that the military's accountants had misplaced a destroyer..."

How the heck do you misplace a naval vessel? Surely the crew must know where it is - or are you telling me that the entire crew left the ship and couldn't find their way back to it again?

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This is so silly...
Posted by: Pirate1 on May 16, 2009 1:05 PM   
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We are talking sea water interacting with metal. Within a decade all the metal in that thing was corroded beyond recognition. After 60 years? Dude, you'd be hard pressed to recognize anything remotely resembling metal, let alone a bomb... only the radiologic signature of the bomb's trigger would be detectable if you happened to be right on top of it... again, a highly unlikely scenario. Let's give our attention to REAL issues like all the NEW bombs being built. Or how about stopping the madness of still drilling for new oil like we can just go on as we have for the last hundred years without any climatological consequences.

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Bombs away
Posted by: Archie1954 on May 16, 2009 4:31 PM   
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After reading this article I am very surprised that any country would give consent to American warplanes traversing their territory. I also find it unbelievable that the respective governments of Denmark and Spain haven't sued the US for gross negligence causing serious harm and death. Have you ever found any country that takes a more offensive position with friends than to refuse the protective gear to these men who are cleaning up after US egregious activities? I call that the act of a disgusting, perverse and sociopathic nation.

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WeMadeAmistake
Posted by: aroleflin on May 16, 2009 6:02 PM   
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I would rather die a quick death from an H-bomb than die a slow death as a result of Obama's ruination of our economy and our country. I am sick and tired of this incompetant idiot in Washington slowly bankrupting our country. I would be more worried about what this Kenyan Kommunist is doing to you and children than some rusty corroded H-bomb.

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WeMadeAmistake
Posted by: aroleflin on May 16, 2009 6:09 PM   
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...and for you Bush Haters regarding WMD in Iraq. Here is a quote from your hero Bill Clinton:
Dec. 16, 1998, Web Poste at 8:51 p.m. EST (0151 GMT) Washington (CNN) From the Oval Office, President Clinton told the nation Wednesday evening why he ordered new military strikes against Iraq: The president said Iraq's refusal to cooperate with U.N. weapons inspectors presented a threat to the entire world. "Sadam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or bilogical weapons, " Clinton said.

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Did the author get an F in inorganic chemistry?
Posted by: Swatopluk on May 17, 2009 9:39 AM   
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If water reaches the lithium deuteride it will simply decompose into lithium hydroxide and (heavy) hydrogen gas that would simply bubble up. It can't explode under water since there is not enough free oxygen there and once it reaches the surface it will be diluted enough to be harmless (and would only burn, not explode, anyway since it would not be enclosed).
And why should a terorist be interested in the lithium (or the deuterium) anyway? Heavy water or other deuterated compounds can be bought freely (although it is not cheap) and even the separation of 6Li and 7Li is not that difficult (compared to uranium enrichment).
Anyone wealthy enough to finance an expedition to salvage the bomb undetected could afford the fabrication of 6LiD. The problem for an H-bomb builder is the procurement of the fission bomb to ignite the fusion reaction (=plutonium or highly enriched uranium) and to get the design right the first time.

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Yanaar
Posted by: context on May 17, 2009 11:04 AM   
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They (Pentagon insiders,)are going for a military coup.

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Maybe that explains...
Posted by: MyLeftFoot on May 18, 2009 5:53 AM   
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that 6 eyed dogfish I caught fishing in Warsaw Sound...

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Missing WMD
Posted by: CJC on May 18, 2009 8:45 AM   
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We were looking in the wrong place.

The DoD, keeping us safe 24,7.

Thanks for posting this.

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Dont worry about this bomb.
Posted by: james2macd on May 18, 2009 9:13 AM   
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I heard about this lost bomb years ago on some TV program. I thought to myself, why would the Navy only spend three days looking for it. The answer is clear if you think about it. Back in the 50s during the cold war, planes were in the air as a deterrent to the russians who knew they could not stop all the bombs even with a first strike. A Hydrogen bomb cost hundreds of millions of dollars to make and the material for these bombs were not as readily available in the 50s as they are today. THIS BOMB WAS A DUD. They had more bombers than they had bombs. Think about it...the deterrent is still there even if the Russians knew this fact. The pilots did not even know that they were carrying a dud. I did not read this anywhere. This is my take on this situation. It is the only thing that makes sense. Comments are more than welcome....James

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One really shouldn't leave H-Bombs lieing around...
Posted by: Ghoulman on May 18, 2009 2:46 PM   
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... call me crazy!

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Huh
Posted by: theone23ord on May 18, 2009 8:33 PM   
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Or just more non-stop "TERA! TERA! TERA!"?

Please read and listen...

iamthewitness.com

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So That Explains THAT
Posted by: gwbushmalecheerleader on May 18, 2009 10:57 PM   
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Thanks, walks in storms, I was wondering what motivated editor Joshua Holland to post his juvenile rant against so-called "conspiracy theorists."

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Basic information collection versus purism
Posted by: PaulK on May 19, 2009 7:05 AM   
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We have volunteers and we have erstwhile journalists. These groups will perform basic information collection. They get lots of details wrong, but they get the basic facts right. Mostly.

Purists are what the government can afford to hire.

You people who see holes in the author's information collection, thank you for your contributions. Since you're interested, would you please consider working with the author (who is not me!) on the book? Oh, and volunteers, try not to be smug about your discoveries.

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And what else is lying around?
Posted by: PaulK on May 19, 2009 7:18 AM   
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1. A Brown University professor brought home a pound of weapons-grade uranium from Los Alamos. He wanted to grab it before they slapped some controls on the stuff. It sat in a closet until long after he retired.

2. The U.S.S. Thresher is on the bottom of the Atlantic near rich fishing grounds. What happens to a nuclear reactor in salt water and under heavy pressure?

3. All of Golden, Colorado is aglow because the local plutonium reprocessing plant spewed all sorts of stuff over the years. Oh, and what melts in the ground, not in your mouth? Hershey, Pennsylvania.

4. Does your local college have a nuclear reactor? By definition, every nuclear reactor contains enough uranium to create a nuclear poof. That's where, if you take all the uranium out and put the rods in a big spherical pile without any control rods, the whole thing soon hits 5000 degrees and turns into single atom radioactive dust particles (and you turn into a radioactive firemonster, er, let me do some factchecking on that).

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they know where it is
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on May 19, 2009 7:41 AM   
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its the CIA or Pentagon's 'ace in the hole'

in case they're ever in deep shit with Americans.

they can always 'go rogue' & protect themselves as they make a run for it.

"warcrimes? what warcrimes? ...don't make us release those real & forged documents in Court or Press!... oh! you ARE going to bother being traiterous Americans & holding us accountable for 60 years of corporate-supporting warcrimes? ... just a minute, lemme show you our own Weapon Of Mass Destruction... don't make us roll out a 'terrorist attack' by some brown people... that could get sticky... "

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Ken
Posted by: Old Cowboy on May 19, 2009 7:51 AM   
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And this passes for news-worthy content? I've known about this for a very long time and it was aired on a discivery/science channel report and investigation a decade or more ago, as it was recently.

Come on, get current.

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40, 60, how many years
Posted by: BPomeroy on May 19, 2009 8:31 AM   
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This sort of reporting/ranting is getting old. You variously characterise this well-known event as occurring in 1958, 60 and 40 years ago. It seems like you must have any number of newly pubescent writers braying opines which mostly reflect immaturity and their irresistable urge to zealously make a splash.

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Ultimate gross-out
Posted by: willymack on May 19, 2009 9:37 AM   
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The best horror writers in the world couldn't touch the FACTUAL horror of thermonuclear weapons and the pathetic incompetence of those handling them. Wasn't the complete elimination of all nuclear devices begun during Clinton's time in office? Didn't we secure the cooperation of the Russians in this? What's keeping us from making a new beginning in this direction? This is a no-brainer, folks; get rid of the hideous things once and for all.

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What about the USSR?
Posted by: vertical on May 19, 2009 10:46 AM   
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If we can screw-up this bad with our nukes just imagine how many the Russians have lost and waiting to become a problem.

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Hardly a secret
Posted by: DrAtomic on May 19, 2009 11:19 AM   
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"That's where the matter stood for more than 42 years until a deep sea salvage company, run by former Air Force personnel and a CIA agent, disclosed the existence of the bomb and offered to locate it for a million dollars."

It's true that this offer renewed interest in the bomb and led Rep. Kingston to request a new analysis from the Air Force of the feasibility of retrieving the bomb. But the basic facts were disclosed by the DOD in an unclassified 1981 chronology and subsequent research by various scholars added more details. There was also a very good 1998 documentary, "Lost Bombs," that aired on the History Channel. It featured an interview with pilot Howard Richardson and also reconstructed the accident.

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imagine that!!
Posted by: dsmidiman on May 19, 2009 11:28 AM   
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We invaded a country took over it's government and hanged it's president all because he and his country supposedly had WMDs which posed a threat to us and the rest of the world. Forget the fact that no WMDs were ever found. Look at us!! We have the largest number of nukes as anyone on this planet and apparently there are a few of them laying around under water waiting to ether be acidentally detonated or found by evil people who want to detonate them? Imagine that???

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There is never a threat
Posted by: praedor on May 19, 2009 1:38 PM   
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Of a nuclear detonation with these things (a critical event). It is impossible. It CAN detonate as, essentially, a dirty bomb. Of course, you wouldn't want the materials to fall into criminal/terrorist hands. They could create mischief with such a device.

In any case, it should now be fairly easy to find. A modern magnetic anomaly detector would likely pick it up with ease.

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It's probably safely tucked under the wing of an Israeli jetfighter.
Posted by: waterflaws on May 19, 2009 10:19 PM   
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That's probably where most of the missing enriched uranium went, too.

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What else is lying around?
Posted by: gsmiley on May 20, 2009 1:11 AM   
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My father helped bury tonnes of mustard gas and/or chlorine shells on Adak in the Aleutian chain when the Japanese were being turfed out of Kiska and Attu. (All US territory for those who went to school in America) Rough maps were drawn on scrap paper by untrained GI's, passed along the chain of command into oblivion and is anybody stupid enough to think it ever got recovered? Hell only foxes, whales and salmon up there anyway.

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gimmie shelter
Posted by: gimmie shelter on May 20, 2009 6:00 PM   
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The military machine in this country could care less about the citizens which has been shown in many many ways. The lie, pollute and kill their own. I think the generals should be water boarded, drugged, anthrax ed from the military stores, not given adequate armored vehicles or vest, miss diagnosed, kept in theater of an unjust war well after they should have, electrocuted by one contractor and given rancid food by another, brought home to no jobs and in many cases no wife and family.

Why should a few bombs surprise us they have done everything they could to get rid of all of us including flying in the wrong direction on 9-11.

Keep buying ammo.

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Very funny show about Tybee Bomb
Posted by: JeffW on May 22, 2009 4:48 AM   
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The Tybee Bomb was the subject of "Martha & Dotty: Microwave Mambo!" It's an audio comedy that was a big podcast hit at the 2008 Philadelphia Fringe Festival. You can download it at MicrowaveMambo.com

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Surprised
Posted by: pattyjca on May 23, 2009 12:34 PM   
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Thank You Very Well Said.

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Asked for a comment about the missing nuclear weapons...
Posted by: wildbill on May 23, 2009 2:44 PM   
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...Captain Renault replied, "I'm shocked, shocked to find that the U.S. military would lie and cover up to maintain its untarnished public image!"

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syed salamah ali mahdi
Posted by: salamah on May 23, 2009 11:42 PM   
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Do you want to know where many of such 'missing' nukes are? They have been 'safely' delivered to Israel because this is the most ingenious way to do so, away from 'inquisitive' eyes. Report them as 'lost for ever' and close the file.

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gimmie shelter
Posted by: gimmie shelter on May 24, 2009 3:55 PM   
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I personally think it is all a shell game. Nothing ever works the way it should and the results are always blamed on something else, some one else or on timing or the weather or simply because not enough of the never ending supply of money was spent. Some times we have store fronts with no stores behind the facade. They get to steal our money and we get to admire the illusion they have prepared for us....but which is an illusion?

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Movie exposes the true number of lost nukes
Posted by: sicntired on May 16, 2009 1:34 AM   
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I was watching a movie about the first bomb lost in B.C.Canada and aside from no confirmed recovery of the bomb in that case,they mentioned the Georgia case as well as several more.There are a very unhealthy number of nukes lying on the ocean floor and others where they know nothing about where they were lost.

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Surprised?
Posted by: folkie on May 16, 2009 2:01 AM   
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These are the folks that can lose a few trillion dollars and never notice it, so what did anyone expect? All they've lost are nukes, money, and wars--what about us? We've lost our minds if we keep giving them more nukes, money, and wars to lose.

Don't confuse what they've lost with what they're spending. When the Pentagon says it has lost $2.3 trillion, that means money that wasn't accounted for in any way, shape, or form. It means that their budget is so huge that $2.3 trillion is petty cash that they can easily overlook.

Gee, there's no money for a national health care plan. There's no money for Social Security or Medicare. Not a paltry dime to spend ensuring that the torture stops. But a few trillion for yacht parties and bonuses for billionaire crooks? Sure any time! Another few trillion to expand the defense budget? Why not?

And if that bomb explodes? So we'll have another Chernobyl only worse and right here at home. Expect the government to be just as helpful as it was in New Orleans with Hurricane Katrina--they'll rush in some private mercenaries to shoot anyone who tries to leave the area.

But don't you dare try to take your baby's bottle on the airplane, you friggin' terrorist--Homeland Security knows what to do with the likes of you! Why are you feeding a baby in the first place--you some kind of liberal pinko Commie who cares about kids? Family values means killing kids, bombing kids, nuking kids--that's how you make money. You must be some kinda stinking foreigner--no patriotic American cares about kids. Why do you think we can spend trillions on nukes but can't afford health care, because we care about kids?

Hey, be patient. Obama's gonna find that bomb just as soon as he finishes hiding the torture photos from Congress. Trust him! Maybe he didn't save the polar bears, but he never shot a wolf in his life. And anyway, the H-bombs we've lost are smaller than the ones we have now--they're obviously the lesser evil so you HAVE to support them. They might not be what you want, but they're all you're going to get.

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Can't find the nuke? They should just follow ...
Posted by: harryf200 on May 16, 2009 3:18 AM   
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... the three headed chickens.

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lost stuff...
Posted by: ellie on May 16, 2009 5:05 AM   
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besides the missing nukes, look at all the rest of the junk the pentagon has managed to loose... ok, so where did you guys last see (fill in the blank)... comforting thoughts... not to mention the $$ missing...

a 5 year old takes better care of their toys... that's it, no more toys till you guys find the stuff you lost... period...

back to coffee...

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Actually, this was 51 years ago.
Posted by: T.Rex on May 16, 2009 6:45 AM   
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They hadn't yet even invented the H-bomb 60 years ago, i.e. in 1949. This particular bomb was lost in early 1958, which was approximately 51 years ago.

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And don't forget the 'bomb' America has lost in Iraq and elsewhere
Posted by: fearn on May 16, 2009 7:59 AM   
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Like these 'lost' nuclear weapons depleted uranium is another 'lost' American source of radiation than will probably come back to haunt us.
Funny thing about Americans, they don't ask 'Why?' in a meaningful way. Why did I get cancer, 'oh I don't know I just want to get rid of it'. Why does America spend more on the military that the rest of the world put together? 'Oh, that's just the way it is'!!

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holy crap
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on May 16, 2009 8:24 AM   
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And to think....I feel guilty and inadequate when I lose my car keys.

Obviously, I need to not worry so dang much.

Maybe they should put me in charge of the freaking pentagon, anal-retentive organizational freak that I am!

We'll come up with a plan to put our nukes somewhere we KNOW we can find later. Like inside our purse that ALWAYS goes on the same shelf in the kitchen.

Granny's crazy videos Go get a chuckle!

Luv,
granny

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Lets ask Judy Miller ?
Posted by: weathered on May 16, 2009 8:35 AM   
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that stellar example of journalistic integrity.

May she wash the feet of those dying/injured and brutalized - here and there.

..and to the NYTimes, all the Lies fit to print. A paper that took a piss all over integrity and a allegiance of trust.

'by deceit we wage war' that's a chip off a toxic block that translates well in all MSM/PBS/NPR and the mother of all deceit:hollywood.
Examine screenplays and content, its diabolic.

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Does anybody wonder...
Posted by: Bloomshine on May 16, 2009 8:43 AM   
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...Why the hell do they keep flying nuclear weapons around the globe anyway?!

Do they just have jets flying around near constantly in case someone starts a nuclear war all of a sudden?

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Missing A-Bomb
Posted by: frank69 on May 16, 2009 8:47 AM   
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There's at least one missing A-Bomb in Alaska courtesy of a SAC B-50 which was picking up ice and consequently was losing altitude. So the flight crew jettisoned the big heavy bomb.

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Most Disgusting
Posted by: JSquercia on May 16, 2009 9:08 AM   
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To me the most disgusting part of the article was the treatment of the other personnel used in the Clean Up . to not provide them the same gear as our troops is surely indigative of the Pentagon's attitude towards anyone but their own . What was done to the Danish soldiers should be a crime and for us to dismiss their claims is unconcienable .

I whole heartedly agree with the posters who claim that this shows why we need to take an Axe to the Pentagon Budget . People who have no problem investing in Billion dollar aircraft that NO ONE wants

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Nuclear black market?
Posted by: kogwonton on May 16, 2009 9:29 AM   
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considering how trustworthy our military/intelligence/government/corporate handlers are, I'd be more inclined to wonder if most of those 'lost' nukes didn't go the way of a lot of other taxpayer funded projects - looted and sold to the highest bidder a'la Sgt. Bilko. As I recall Sibel Edmonds had a few things to say about that, but was gagged by the U.S. DoJ. I guess the fact that a nuclear black market operating out of the U.S. State Dept. in cohootz with the Turkish and Pakistanian embassies was somehow connected to the 'chatter' of the Sept. 11 attacks was just too much for the American sheep to handle. Bad enough that there was a 'fast track' system operating out of the U.S. embassy in Saudi Arabia and Jordan which granted visas to terrorists allowing them into the U.S. for training purposes. I have been watchful of any further news concerning the loading and shipment of armed nukes just a couple of years ago under GWB/Cheney's watch. I forget how many nukes were involved. Six? Eight? And how many 'accidents' involving the incredibly redundant security protocols had to happen to allow that little 'accident'?

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Check with Dick Cheney!
Posted by: nobuko on May 16, 2009 9:55 AM   
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Do you think for one SECOND Cheney does not have those missing nukes? Why do you think he is talking the crap he is talking? 9/11 was an INSIDE JOB, because they had ALL the INTEL to PREVENT 9/11 from happening!

Cheney keeps talking, BE AFRAID, BE AFRAID, this bastard is going to cause another 9/11 if Obama gets in his way in Iraq and Afganistan!

These evil doer's are as serious as cheneys pace maker, they WANT TO CONTROL IT ALL, and will DO WHATEVER IS NECESSARY, to CONTROL IT!

Have you wondered, how much is ENOUGH for these greedy bastards?

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This article needs fact check
Posted by: Tony44 on May 16, 2009 10:02 AM   
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"The fourth bomb landed eight miles offshore and was missing for several months. It was eventually located by a mini-submarine in 2,850 feet of water, where it rests to this day."
Sorry - this one was recovered by the Navy, photos were publicly released of it on the deck of the salvage tug.

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A Destroyer...?
Posted by: CanuckKid on May 16, 2009 11:43 AM   
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"...the Pentagon's inspector general reported that the military's accountants had misplaced a destroyer..."

How the heck do you misplace a naval vessel? Surely the crew must know where it is - or are you telling me that the entire crew left the ship and couldn't find their way back to it again?

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This is so silly...
Posted by: Pirate1 on May 16, 2009 1:05 PM   
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We are talking sea water interacting with metal. Within a decade all the metal in that thing was corroded beyond recognition. After 60 years? Dude, you'd be hard pressed to recognize anything remotely resembling metal, let alone a bomb... only the radiologic signature of the bomb's trigger would be detectable if you happened to be right on top of it... again, a highly unlikely scenario. Let's give our attention to REAL issues like all the NEW bombs being built. Or how about stopping the madness of still drilling for new oil like we can just go on as we have for the last hundred years without any climatological consequences.

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Bombs away
Posted by: Archie1954 on May 16, 2009 4:31 PM   
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After reading this article I am very surprised that any country would give consent to American warplanes traversing their territory. I also find it unbelievable that the respective governments of Denmark and Spain haven't sued the US for gross negligence causing serious harm and death. Have you ever found any country that takes a more offensive position with friends than to refuse the protective gear to these men who are cleaning up after US egregious activities? I call that the act of a disgusting, perverse and sociopathic nation.

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WeMadeAmistake
Posted by: aroleflin on May 16, 2009 6:02 PM   
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I would rather die a quick death from an H-bomb than die a slow death as a result of Obama's ruination of our economy and our country. I am sick and tired of this incompetant idiot in Washington slowly bankrupting our country. I would be more worried about what this Kenyan Kommunist is doing to you and children than some rusty corroded H-bomb.

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WeMadeAmistake
Posted by: aroleflin on May 16, 2009 6:09 PM   
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...and for you Bush Haters regarding WMD in Iraq. Here is a quote from your hero Bill Clinton:
Dec. 16, 1998, Web Poste at 8:51 p.m. EST (0151 GMT) Washington (CNN) From the Oval Office, President Clinton told the nation Wednesday evening why he ordered new military strikes against Iraq: The president said Iraq's refusal to cooperate with U.N. weapons inspectors presented a threat to the entire world. "Sadam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or bilogical weapons, " Clinton said.

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Did the author get an F in inorganic chemistry?
Posted by: Swatopluk on May 17, 2009 9:39 AM   
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If water reaches the lithium deuteride it will simply decompose into lithium hydroxide and (heavy) hydrogen gas that would simply bubble up. It can't explode under water since there is not enough free oxygen there and once it reaches the surface it will be diluted enough to be harmless (and would only burn, not explode, anyway since it would not be enclosed).
And why should a terorist be interested in the lithium (or the deuterium) anyway? Heavy water or other deuterated compounds can be bought freely (although it is not cheap) and even the separation of 6Li and 7Li is not that difficult (compared to uranium enrichment).
Anyone wealthy enough to finance an expedition to salvage the bomb undetected could afford the fabrication of 6LiD. The problem for an H-bomb builder is the procurement of the fission bomb to ignite the fusion reaction (=plutonium or highly enriched uranium) and to get the design right the first time.

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Yanaar
Posted by: context on May 17, 2009 11:04 AM   
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They (Pentagon insiders,)are going for a military coup.

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Maybe that explains...
Posted by: MyLeftFoot on May 18, 2009 5:53 AM   
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that 6 eyed dogfish I caught fishing in Warsaw Sound...

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Missing WMD
Posted by: CJC on May 18, 2009 8:45 AM   
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We were looking in the wrong place.

The DoD, keeping us safe 24,7.

Thanks for posting this.

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Dont worry about this bomb.
Posted by: james2macd on May 18, 2009 9:13 AM   
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I heard about this lost bomb years ago on some TV program. I thought to myself, why would the Navy only spend three days looking for it. The answer is clear if you think about it. Back in the 50s during the cold war, planes were in the air as a deterrent to the russians who knew they could not stop all the bombs even with a first strike. A Hydrogen bomb cost hundreds of millions of dollars to make and the material for these bombs were not as readily available in the 50s as they are today. THIS BOMB WAS A DUD. They had more bombers than they had bombs. Think about it...the deterrent is still there even if the Russians knew this fact. The pilots did not even know that they were carrying a dud. I did not read this anywhere. This is my take on this situation. It is the only thing that makes sense. Comments are more than welcome....James

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One really shouldn't leave H-Bombs lieing around...
Posted by: Ghoulman on May 18, 2009 2:46 PM   
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... call me crazy!

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Huh
Posted by: theone23ord on May 18, 2009 8:33 PM   
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Or just more non-stop "TERA! TERA! TERA!"?

Please read and listen...

iamthewitness.com

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So That Explains THAT
Posted by: gwbushmalecheerleader on May 18, 2009 10:57 PM   
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Thanks, walks in storms, I was wondering what motivated editor Joshua Holland to post his juvenile rant against so-called "conspiracy theorists."

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Basic information collection versus purism
Posted by: PaulK on May 19, 2009 7:05 AM   
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We have volunteers and we have erstwhile journalists. These groups will perform basic information collection. They get lots of details wrong, but they get the basic facts right. Mostly.

Purists are what the government can afford to hire.

You people who see holes in the author's information collection, thank you for your contributions. Since you're interested, would you please consider working with the author (who is not me!) on the book? Oh, and volunteers, try not to be smug about your discoveries.

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And what else is lying around?
Posted by: PaulK on May 19, 2009 7:18 AM   
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1. A Brown University professor brought home a pound of weapons-grade uranium from Los Alamos. He wanted to grab it before they slapped some controls on the stuff. It sat in a closet until long after he retired.

2. The U.S.S. Thresher is on the bottom of the Atlantic near rich fishing grounds. What happens to a nuclear reactor in salt water and under heavy pressure?

3. All of Golden, Colorado is aglow because the local plutonium reprocessing plant spewed all sorts of stuff over the years. Oh, and what melts in the ground, not in your mouth? Hershey, Pennsylvania.

4. Does your local college have a nuclear reactor? By definition, every nuclear reactor contains enough uranium to create a nuclear poof. That's where, if you take all the uranium out and put the rods in a big spherical pile without any control rods, the whole thing soon hits 5000 degrees and turns into single atom radioactive dust particles (and you turn into a radioactive firemonster, er, let me do some factchecking on that).

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they know where it is
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on May 19, 2009 7:41 AM   
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its the CIA or Pentagon's 'ace in the hole'

in case they're ever in deep shit with Americans.

they can always 'go rogue' & protect themselves as they make a run for it.

"warcrimes? what warcrimes? ...don't make us release those real & forged documents in Court or Press!... oh! you ARE going to bother being traiterous Americans & holding us accountable for 60 years of corporate-supporting warcrimes? ... just a minute, lemme show you our own Weapon Of Mass Destruction... don't make us roll out a 'terrorist attack' by some brown people... that could get sticky... "

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Ken
Posted by: Old Cowboy on May 19, 2009 7:51 AM   
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And this passes for news-worthy content? I've known about this for a very long time and it was aired on a discivery/science channel report and investigation a decade or more ago, as it was recently.

Come on, get current.

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40, 60, how many years
Posted by: BPomeroy on May 19, 2009 8:31 AM   
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This sort of reporting/ranting is getting old. You variously characterise this well-known event as occurring in 1958, 60 and 40 years ago. It seems like you must have any number of newly pubescent writers braying opines which mostly reflect immaturity and their irresistable urge to zealously make a splash.

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Ultimate gross-out
Posted by: willymack on May 19, 2009 9:37 AM   
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The best horror writers in the world couldn't touch the FACTUAL horror of thermonuclear weapons and the pathetic incompetence of those handling them. Wasn't the complete elimination of all nuclear devices begun during Clinton's time in office? Didn't we secure the cooperation of the Russians in this? What's keeping us from making a new beginning in this direction? This is a no-brainer, folks; get rid of the hideous things once and for all.

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What about the USSR?
Posted by: vertical on May 19, 2009 10:46 AM   
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If we can screw-up this bad with our nukes just imagine how many the Russians have lost and waiting to become a problem.

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Hardly a secret
Posted by: DrAtomic on May 19, 2009 11:19 AM   
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"That's where the matter stood for more than 42 years until a deep sea salvage company, run by former Air Force personnel and a CIA agent, disclosed the existence of the bomb and offered to locate it for a million dollars."

It's true that this offer renewed interest in the bomb and led Rep. Kingston to request a new analysis from the Air Force of the feasibility of retrieving the bomb. But the basic facts were disclosed by the DOD in an unclassified 1981 chronology and subsequent research by various scholars added more details. There was also a very good 1998 documentary, "Lost Bombs," that aired on the History Channel. It featured an interview with pilot Howard Richardson and also reconstructed the accident.

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imagine that!!
Posted by: dsmidiman on May 19, 2009 11:28 AM   
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We invaded a country took over it's government and hanged it's president all because he and his country supposedly had WMDs which posed a threat to us and the rest of the world. Forget the fact that no WMDs were ever found. Look at us!! We have the largest number of nukes as anyone on this planet and apparently there are a few of them laying around under water waiting to ether be acidentally detonated or found by evil people who want to detonate them? Imagine that???

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There is never a threat
Posted by: praedor on May 19, 2009 1:38 PM   
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Of a nuclear detonation with these things (a critical event). It is impossible. It CAN detonate as, essentially, a dirty bomb. Of course, you wouldn't want the materials to fall into criminal/terrorist hands. They could create mischief with such a device.

In any case, it should now be fairly easy to find. A modern magnetic anomaly detector would likely pick it up with ease.

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It's probably safely tucked under the wing of an Israeli jetfighter.
Posted by: waterflaws on May 19, 2009 10:19 PM   
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That's probably where most of the missing enriched uranium went, too.

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What else is lying around?
Posted by: gsmiley on May 20, 2009 1:11 AM   
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My father helped bury tonnes of mustard gas and/or chlorine shells on Adak in the Aleutian chain when the Japanese were being turfed out of Kiska and Attu. (All US territory for those who went to school in America) Rough maps were drawn on scrap paper by untrained GI's, passed along the chain of command into oblivion and is anybody stupid enough to think it ever got recovered? Hell only foxes, whales and salmon up there anyway.

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gimmie shelter
Posted by: gimmie shelter on May 20, 2009 6:00 PM   
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The military machine in this country could care less about the citizens which has been shown in many many ways. The lie, pollute and kill their own. I think the generals should be water boarded, drugged, anthrax ed from the military stores, not given adequate armored vehicles or vest, miss diagnosed, kept in theater of an unjust war well after they should have, electrocuted by one contractor and given rancid food by another, brought home to no jobs and in many cases no wife and family.

Why should a few bombs surprise us they have done everything they could to get rid of all of us including flying in the wrong direction on 9-11.

Keep buying ammo.

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Very funny show about Tybee Bomb
Posted by: JeffW on May 22, 2009 4:48 AM   
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The Tybee Bomb was the subject of "Martha & Dotty: Microwave Mambo!" It's an audio comedy that was a big podcast hit at the 2008 Philadelphia Fringe Festival. You can download it at MicrowaveMambo.com

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Surprised
Posted by: pattyjca on May 23, 2009 12:34 PM   
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Thank You Very Well Said.

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Asked for a comment about the missing nuclear weapons...
Posted by: wildbill on May 23, 2009 2:44 PM   
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...Captain Renault replied, "I'm shocked, shocked to find that the U.S. military would lie and cover up to maintain its untarnished public image!"

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syed salamah ali mahdi
Posted by: salamah on May 23, 2009 11:42 PM   
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Do you want to know where many of such 'missing' nukes are? They have been 'safely' delivered to Israel because this is the most ingenious way to do so, away from 'inquisitive' eyes. Report them as 'lost for ever' and close the file.

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gimmie shelter
Posted by: gimmie shelter on May 24, 2009 3:55 PM   
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I personally think it is all a shell game. Nothing ever works the way it should and the results are always blamed on something else, some one else or on timing or the weather or simply because not enough of the never ending supply of money was spent. Some times we have store fronts with no stores behind the facade. They get to steal our money and we get to admire the illusion they have prepared for us....but which is an illusion?

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