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Will New Food Safety Bills Really Outlaw Backyard Gardening and End Farmers' Markets?
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My inbox has been pummeled in recent weeks by a barrage of emails warning me of the evils of HR 875, a bill currently working its way through Congress. Sponsored by Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn), the Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009 was one of several bills introduced in the wake of the peanut butter-borne salmonella outbreak. Each of these bills ostensibly seeks to improve food safety with increased regulation.
Critics, paranoid and level-headed alike, point to the disproportionate burden that increased regulation places on small farmers, and many wonder if the banner of food safety is being used as a Trojan horse to create a more favorable business climate for corporate agriculture.
"If [HR 875] passes, say goodbye to organic produce, your Local Farmer's market and very possibly, the GARDEN IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD!!!!!" announced one email."
Another warned that HR 875 would result in "...criminalization of seed banking, prison terms and confiscatory fines for farmers."
And of course, no serious foodie conspiracy theory would be complete without Monsanto as the architect: "DeLauro's husband Stanley Greenburg works for Monsanto!" claim nearly all of these emails.
Stanley Greenberg is indeed the CEO of a polling firm that did, indeed, contract with Monsanto. But it's no more true to say he works for Monsanto than it is to say he works for Nelson Mandela - who was also a former client of his firm, according to factcheck.org, which did a detailed dissection of one of the viral emails.
These emails seem to have been propagated largely by well-intentioned foodies, after having originated from a cadre of conspiracy theorists and Ron Paul supporters with too much time on their hands.
"There is a perfectly legitimate conversation to be had about how we can have food safety regulation without jeopardizing small farms and local food systems," says Patty Lovera, Assistant director of Food and Water Watch. "But it's hard to have a rational conversation via forwarded emails. It's not happening in a way that's going to change the policy."
Lovera says HR 875 won't regulate seed-saving, backyard gardens, or farmers markets. It would, however, split the Food and Drug Administration into separate bodies, one for food and one for drugs. This is a move that Food and Water Watch would support. But unfortunately, she says, it's likely to kill the bill, because splitting the FDA might be too daunting a task for lawmakers to take on right now.
Another bill that's more likely to make it to a vote, Lovera says, is HR 759. While this bill, "the Food And Drug Administration Globalization Act," has drawn relatively little attention, she thinks it would be more likely to cause big problems for small farmers.
HR 759 would extend traceability recordkeeping requirements that currently apply only to food processors to farms and restaurants - and require that recordkeeping be done electronically, placing a disproportionate burden, in terms of time and money, on small farmers. The bill would also establish production standards for fruits and vegetables, which are called "Good Agricultural Practices."
Agriculture practices designed to improve food safety and address environmental, economic, and social sustainability, might sound like a good idea, Lovera says. But as written, the Good Agriculture Practices are mostly relevant to large, corporate farms - which are the source of most farm-related economic, social, environmental, and safety problems to begin with.
All of these bills, ostensibly, are efforts to make factory-farmed food safer so we can avoid E.coli in spinach, downer cattle in school lunches, feathers in chicken patties, and other food-borne horror stories we've grown all-too used to hearing about. But if these regulations are extended to the small, family farms where the problems aren't coming from, it's more than just a legislative overextension. It's a tilting of the playing field grossly in favor of corporate agriculture. And on this point, we all should be paranoid.
"What people don't realize is that if any of these bills pass, we lose. All we will have left is industrial food," says Deborah Stockton, executive director of the National Independent Consumers and Farmers Association, which is dedicated to promoting and preserving unregulated direct farmer-to-consumer trade, and fostering the availability of locally grown or home-produced food products.
One of Stockton's top priorities is stopping the controversial National Animal Identification System (NAIS). Implemented by USDA in 2003 without congressional approval, NAIS is a federal registry program for livestock and for the premises where animals live or visit. The stated purpose of the system is to aid state and federal government response to outbreaks of animal disease.
"NAIS is a safety net for the corporate livestock industry," Stockton told me. "They're the ones with the practices that are creating problems for human and animal health, and they're the ones who need NAIS to cover their backs when something goes wrong. The main threats to food safety are centralized production, processing and long distance transportation."
Food and Water Watch shares Stockton's distaste for NAIS. According ot its web page: "The current plan to create a federal animal identification system ignores existing state animal health programs, puts too much emphasis on privatizing the data collection (forcing small farmers to submit data about their operations to trade associations they don't support), and essentially forces small farmers and ranchers to pay for a safety net for agribusiness."
But, says Lovera, the bills currently under consideration are aimed at the FDA, and NAIS is a USDA program. While she sees a lot of problems with many of the current bills, strengthening NAIS isn't one of them.
Stockton doesn't buy it. If any of them pass, she says, it would ratify NAIS, and strengthen USDA's ability to make it mandatory for all livestock, including your flock of backyard chickens.
So lawmakers, if you're listening, and you want these protestors, ballistic and level-headed alike, to chill out, here is how to get them off your backs: exempt local food systems from the current bills. Include specific language in the bills that will guarantee that small family farms, backyard gardens, personal livestock, farmers markets, and all forms of food self-sufficiency and farmer-direct purchasing are protected. Because the right to buy milk from your neighbor or grow your own food is as inalienable as the right to bear arms. And if you threaten to take away this right, you're going to face a backlash that will make the NRA seem like a bunch of flower-waving Hare Krishnas.
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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Apr 6, 2009 9:15 AM
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The problem is industrialized food production.
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Posted by: countingdaisies on Apr 7, 2009 2:35 AM
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Posted by: Ottomatic on Apr 7, 2009 3:15 AM
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Inedible Garbage
Pure unadulterated POISON.
ELIMINATE The CORPIRATE Middleman
Plant a Victory Garden today.
Become self sufficient, self reliant and efficient.
Survive and Prosper!
Go Local
Go Green
Go Organic!
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» TERRIBLE idea to accept any portion of ANY of these bills.
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Posted by: warrior woman on Apr 7, 2009 5:09 AM
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food/foodsafety/background-on-h-r-875
"Several of the things not found in the DeLauro can be found in other bills – like H.R. 814, the Tracing and Recalling Agricultural Contamination Everywhere Act, which calls for a mandatory animal identification system, or H.R. 759, the Food And Drug Administration Globalization Act, which overhauls the entire structure of FDA. H.R. 759 is more likely to move through Congress than H.R. 875. And H.R. 759 contains several provisions that could cause problems for small farms and food processors:
• It extends traceability recordkeeping requirements that currently apply only to food processors to farms and restaurants – and requires that recordkeeping be done electronically.
• It calls for standard lot numbers to be used in food production.
• It requires food processing plants to pay a registration fee to FDA to fund the agency’s inspection efforts.
• It instructs FDA to establish production standards for fruits and vegetables and to establish Good Agricultural Practices for produce.
There is plenty of evidence that one-size-fits-all regulation only tends to work for one size of agriculture – the largest industrialized operations. That’s why it is important to let members of Congress know how food safety proposals will impact the conservation, organic, and sustainable practices that make diversified, organic, and direct market producers different from agribusiness. And the work doesn’t stop there – if Congress passes any of these bills, the FDA will have to develop rules and regulations to implement the law, a process that we can’t afford to ignore.
But simply shooting down any attempt to fix our broken food safety system is not an approach that works for consumers, who are faced with a food supply that is putting them at risk and regulators who lack the authority to do much about it."
Read the full text of any of these bills. http://thomas.loc.gov/
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Posted by: eksommer on Apr 7, 2009 5:21 AM
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Let's see a bill that calls for humane treatment of animals from farm to table; for more inspectors to be sure the corporate food industry is safe for workers and consumers; and reasonable guidelines for small farmers and regional food producers that do not cause mountains of paperwork or the need for a computer, which many small farmers can ill afford, nor do they seek to spend their time that way as they spend most of their time and energy - FARMING.
Lets not allow the government to "lock up the food" as Daniel Quinn has told us countless times.
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Posted by: Casey Burns on Apr 7, 2009 7:19 AM
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Two that I know of specifically:
1) Prepared Food - baked goods and such - must be prepared in an inspected and certified kitchen. Thus no home baked goodies. This killed off some of the vendors, or at least got the blame. But it seems to me that a farmers market is the wrong demographic for overly sweet goods! And this made more room for actual produce.
2) Eggs must be sold in new containers with the source printed on it. Not widely enforced but it also hasn't been a big deal. Actually there is a perennial shortage of eggs - its getting too expensive to raise chickens, given the price of feed. When you can get it.
I am not worried about any of this legislation and I would happily join the attempt to enforce my right to grow whatever I damn well please and sell it to whoever is willing to buy.
Let the corporations and the governments amuse themselves trying to block a basic human right. They will end up looking foolish and petty. Instead of Tea Parties we'll have veggie parties. In Spain they celebrate with tomatoes. Imagine what we could do to the marbled buildings on the Capital Mall if every protester brought a case of some large, juicy variety such as Beefsteak - and well ripened!
We could literally paint the Capital red! Goes well with oregano......
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Posted by: ellie on Apr 7, 2009 7:32 AM
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seed stock for 'heirloom' veggies were the first to fly off the shelves... you can seed store heirloom seeds easily from year to year...
just try to buy a grow light to start your seedlings, out of stock...
farm store guy said it may not have enough chicks ordered to meet demand this year...
lawn seed and equipment is not selling as fast as in the past... flowers are beautiful but folks want veggie plants this year...
is there a pattern going on here???
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Apr 7, 2009 7:46 AM
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Posted by: Bliss Doubt on Apr 7, 2009 7:48 AM
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Some days I love Alternet. This isn't one of those days.
Fortunately, there are sites such as www.organicconsumers.org, www.truefoodnow.org and www.cornucopia.org (Cornucopia Institute), where people can keep up with what's really going on with all this murky legislation, and let Alternet be oblivious.
There is another one too, S. 384.
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Posted by: liberal is good on Apr 7, 2009 8:22 AM
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Monsanto has been in the forefront of all the major issues with our declined control of real food with all it’s natural nutrition. This is the company that tried to STOP SEED TRADING among small farmers in India !!!.
Their goal is to sell their GMO based seeds to every farmer on the planet. When they couldn’t quite corrupt all the farmers here they thought who would find out about some nobody farmer in India... fortunately they were wrong.
What is the Monsanto seed? It’s a seed genetically modified in many ways. How? Name one you say? How about the fact that their seeds die after the plant matures.
and that their contract with the farmers state they MUST buy seeds from them.
and no one else and every year.
You know the plants created by Mother Nature, you take the seeds and start again the next year.... not so with Monsanto.
How about the Connecticut farmer who was sued by the big M. for stating on their milk cartons that their milk did not contain rBGH, Big M said it made people think their milk was not good. Yea Duh !!
First of all it will be a burden on small farmers, that is part of it, the beginning.
do you know that all subsides to “help” farmers are only given to big argri business.
Why is that? The Lobbyists, and an ignorant lazy government. Which means if they can’t stay in business I get screwed because I can’t choose... the choice is made by big business and the little guys.... who dare speak truth to power, ........ die..........
FOOD WILL NOT BE SAFER. You don’t get it. We bury news of mad cow, we bury anything that will take money out of the pockets of agri- business. Why do you think that these guys are any less innocent than a Bernie Madoff or AIG or the brokers and bankers who.... brought this country to it’s knees?
They don’t enforce the current laws, WHY, HOW ? They just don’t fund them !!!!!
There are farmers who raise organic beef, some who raise purely grass fed beef.
These people are not big agri- business but they can trace their animals... so why can’t agri- business? Cost, & lower profits.
How about Irradiation?Instead of cleaning up the slaughter houses that breed most of the diseases they implement irradiation.... do you know what that essentially is? The feces or organisms that are on the meat stay there, they are just irradiated so they won’t harm you !
Now is that protection you want ??
Next time you dig into a big steak think about irradiation. Why don’t we just fully fund the FDA, so they can do their job and be less prone to bribery and threats.
It’s all about money and power. Period.
"It makes one wonder if it will take the U.S. population and its government, as long to realize that the food these companies are feeding us is destroying our health, as it did for us to become aware that the cigarettes they were selling us were killing us."
-- Food Politics by Marion Nestle,
.... in reference to the $8M from Phillip Morris awarded to widow of chain smoker.
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Posted by: snezy on Apr 7, 2009 8:56 AM
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IPC (International Policy Council on Agriculture, Food and Trade) was founded in 1987 by the Agri-Corps to push international food and Ag regs
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Ann Veneman employed by Monsanto (Calgene), lead the GATT trade delegation and is an IPC Member Emeritus. She also worked for Patten Bogg “We were among the first law firms to recognize that all three branches of government could serve as forums in which to achieve client goals, enabling us to emerge as the nation’s leading public policy law firm, and we have developed our extensive business law capabilities into the firm’s largest practice area.” Patton Boggs
Bernard Auxenfans member of the Board of Directors at IPC is former chairman Monsanto France
Mickey Kantor US trade representative (USTR) for the Uruguay Round of negotiations, became a Monsanto board member.
Robert Shapiro, chairman of Monsanto, was lead advisor for Clinton's Committee for Trade Policy and Negotiations when WTO was ratified in 1995.
Marcia Hale, a former assistant to President Clinton and director for intergovernmental affairs, was director of international government affairs for Monsanto.
What was IPC pushing??
"Measures to trace animals...to provide assurances on...safety ..have been incorporated into international standards... The Agreement on the Application of Sanitary and Phytosanitary Measures...Aims to ensure that governments DO NOT USE QUARANTINE AND FOOD SAFETY REQUIREMENTS as Unjustified trade barriers... It provides Member countries with a right to implement traceability {NAIS} as an SPS measure." source
“Development of risk-based systems [HACCP] has been heavily influenced by the WTO Agreement on the Application of Sanitary and Phytosanitary Measures ” OIE report Oct 2008 a href="http://www.oie.int/eng/normes/mcode/en_chapitre_1.6.1.htm">source
In 1993, HACCP guidelines were developed by the Codex Alimentarius, a joint Programme of FAO & WHO. FAO This system replaced US food regs in 1996. (HACCP & open borders account for the increase in tainted food)
September 2008 FDA on International Harmonization:
"Failure to reach a consistent, harmonized set of laws, regulations and standards within the free trade agreements and the World Trade Organization Agreements can result in considerable economic repercussions." FDA
I have 15 pages of connections between Internat'l Regs, WTO, Big Ag & US government. Ag Corps wants a vertically integrated food system and no competition. They used Ann Vennaman & Dan Amstrutz (Cargill)to write what they wanted and Robert Shapiro to see it was ratified by Clinton & Congress. Now they want to finish the job.
Want more connections?
January 2005: Guide to good farming practices: From Report of the Meeting of the OIE (Paris, 17-28 January 2005) OIE
The Farm Guide's written, we get the bill: Safe and Secure Food Act of 2005 bill
1995, USDA's Food Safety & Inspection Service (600 pg Doc) "Farm-To-Table - control of every step in the food chain from production to home preparation." source
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Posted by: djnoll on Apr 7, 2009 9:56 AM
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Small farm operations and localized food distributors (CSAs, farmers' markets) are not seriously large competitors to organized agribusiness, and certainly do not present the health and safety dangers that corporate agriculture does. As for the home garden producer, well, if Conagra thinks my vegetables are a threat to their business, they are just plain insane (besides, if I get anything to grow this year, I will be real lucky!)
It is time, not to regulate agricultural producers like small family farms or farmers' markets, but rather time to strip corporations of their personhood status and break up these oligarchical corporations. It is time to return the land to farmers who will restore it and nurture it so that it can feed our nation with healthy foods instead of poisons and food abominations. It is time, America, to stop Corporations and return our country to its living, breathing people. Our economy was based on small businesses and small farms, and it is time to return to that. We can still compete on a global scale, because we are innovative and we are industrious. Think about the real of irony of corporations being taken down by just a few seeds of honesty and hard work!?!
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Posted by: Nasookin on Apr 7, 2009 10:40 AM
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The uncontrolled wind drift of pollen from genetically modified crops will do the job "naturally" and just as efficiently.
Once an organic crop is contaminated with GMO's it can no longer be considered "organic."
According to Monsanto it was all the fault of Saskatchewan canola farmer and seed breeder, Percy Schmeiser, that his crop was contaminated with Monsanto's round up ready canola even though Monsanto could not prove Schmeiser stole, purchased or otherwise used their patented round up ready canola seed.
The very fact that Schmeiser's crop was only partially contaminated with Monsanto's genetic engineered canola pollen was evidence enough to demonstrate Monsanto's pollen was the trespasser. However, that did not count with a Canadian federal court judge. So even patent laws are rigged against the organic farmer.
In India, since 1997 to the present, over 150,000 farmers have committed suicide because the seed patents indenture farmers - preventing them from saving patented seeds thereby forcing them to purchase seed for the next year crop. Furthermore, these patented seeds are modified to only germinate when exposed to a particular brand chemical fertilizer and be immune to a particular brand of herbicide. Unfortunately, these seeds do not deliver the patent owners promise. The crop yields are actually fewer because these seeds often do not germinate and the farmer often ends up with little no crop to harvest or sell. He is left destitute.[1]
Some people, like Henry Kissinger, may call that population control - others will say "genocide."
Biotechnology's best and only example of a promise of better nutrition lies with the patented "Golden Rice," that has been genetically engineered to contain Beta Carotene (pro vitamin A). So far, Golden Rice is the only example of genetic engineering a crop for a high specific nutrient content. Unfortunately this has not gone anywhere because the farmers can't afford the seeds and in practical terms, one would have to consume several bowls of the rice and still not get enough of the recommenced dietary requirement for pro vitamin A. By contrast, one serving of an orange yam, a member of the morning glory family of plants (not the pale yellow sweet potato) contains well in excess of 11,000 I.U.'s (International Units) of Beta Carotene per serving.
In any event, nutrient depleted food, either through genetic manipulation or modern processing methods for shelf life, means sick people and guaranteed profits for the pharmacartels and the doctor business.
Fortification with piddling amounts of mostly synthetic vitamins is too little and too late.
Croft Woodruff MH PhD (Honoris causa)
Coquitlam BC V3B 7H8
CANADA
PS: My thanks to Nasookin for permitting access to post.
[1]www.globalresearch.ca
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Posted by: Aquinas on Apr 7, 2009 11:33 AM
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The day WILL NOT come when the government will intrude on private gardens.
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Posted by: Aquinas on Apr 7, 2009 11:33 AM
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The day WILL NOT come when the government will intrude on private gardens.
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Posted by: vangogh69 on Apr 7, 2009 1:49 PM
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If they're really serious about "safety", how about forcing food companies to say on labels what's exactly in those "natural flavors".
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Posted by: researchit on Apr 7, 2009 2:54 PM
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1) the USDA will be investigating the flawed/rigged testing by genetic engineering companies?
2) that the USDA will be labeling all food containing ANY genetically engineered plants or cloned animals?
3) are they going to label irradiated food?
4) are they going to INCREASE inspections of the big food processing plants and slaughterhouses?
5) are they going to increase the inspections of imported food
OR
are they just going to drive small farmers out of business with mountains of paperwork?
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Apr 7, 2009 3:04 PM
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Posted by: tean on Apr 7, 2009 4:38 PM
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I am very dissapointed that you have choosen to marginalize those with accurate concerns over food legislation, and even used a mainstream media calling card - dismissing people by saying they are conspiracy theorists, or Ron Paul supporters. What is that even supposed to mean?
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Posted by: Michiganman on Apr 7, 2009 6:10 PM
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Another real threat is the new DNA Engineered foods. People can say organic all they want but if you don't have original seed you are kidding yourselves. These new genetically engineered foods have not been tested on humans for long term effect. And if some pollen impregnates your plants you can be sued because you do not hold the patent to the next generation and must buy the seed from the patent holder....Crazy but true!
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Posted by: FarmerPete on Apr 7, 2009 6:23 PM
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“Rule of Interpretation
“No provision of this act shall be deemed to apply (a) to any home, home-business, homestead, small farm (including organic or natural) agricultural activity, social club, association, church, school or other local organization, (b) to any family farm or ranch, or (c) to any natural or organic food product, including dietary supplements regulated under the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994.”
(text copied from http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2394)
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Posted by: jpom22 on Apr 7, 2009 7:13 PM
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By Sue Diederich and Linn Cohen-Cole March 16, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/bjvvug
The Pennsylvania Association for Sustainable Agriculture (PASA) sent out information about HR 875, which lists 'facts' to counter 'myths' and 'rumors' on the internet. It gives no specifics to back up its 'facts,' so the following close up view of the bill and accompanying commentary offers readers a chance to decide for themselves what is myth and what is fact.
Sue Diederich heads the Illinois Independent Consumers and Farmers Association, an organization formed to protect the rights of farmers and consumers to deal directly with each other without government interference. Neither of us are lawyers, but we both can read. We invite progressive headliners to read the bills themselves and provide their own analysis. The Left needs to understand what their conservative brothers and sisters in farming view as an alarming attempt to seize absolute control of all attempts at private (non-corporate), healthy, organic food growing and sharing. ~LCC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epXNJNjYBvw
People seem to expect HR 875 to be titled "The Criminalization of Organic Farming and the Take over of the US Food Supply." When they don't see any words to that effect anywhere in the bill, they declare "this bill is fine" and those seeing dangers are "alarmists." Do they think the industrial side is composed of fools? These are the same people who make cheery cereals with cartoon characters on the box when, inside, high fructose corn syrup is all over the cereal which comes from Bt-corn associated with diabetes. HFCS is, too, and there is an epidemic of diabetes here even among children. They know how to package. Why do people understand that industrial food inside a box can be a problem and yet are so innocent about looking at the bills, not realizing there is packaging there, too, or how much is at stake that the public and even legislators not see since this is about taking control. The industrial side isn't stupid.
Understanding parts of the bill at times depends on smelling smoke as you read it. Here in the US, we still have only smoke ... an Ohio state ag department SWAT team raid on an organic coop, Pennsylvania ag department raids on horse and buggy Mennonites, California setting coliform levels so low fresh milk dairy farmers would need cows that produced pasteurized milk right out the udder, arrest and handcuffing of a single mother in front of her children for selling goat milk, the USDA paying its agents bonuses for foreclosing on farms... But in the EU where 60% of the Polish farmers are now gone because of identical bills enacted into law there, and 60 UK farmers have committed suicide, there is fire. And in Iraq, where they have been rendered helpless serfs by the theft of their country's seeds and criminalization of farmers' collection of their own seed, it is roaring. And in India where 182,000 farmers have committed suicide since the WTO and IMF got hold of agriculture and our Big Ag firms went in there, and 8 million farmers have left the land, it is out of control.
The World Trade Organization (WTO), run by the multinational meat packers and genetic engineering corporations, want HR 875, here. The bills are "harmonized" rules for globalization of food and lower food safety standards to allow for it. Those corporations are members of NIAA, a corporate consortium that brought NAIS, created by Anne Veneman, to the USDA to be made into law. (see much more at website)
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Outside of that, the whole damned thing is incoherent.
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Grandmother Scores Huge Victory over Monsanto
Written by Robert Singer
We are having trouble figuring out why Monsanto made Percy Schmeiser a hero for the growing movement against GMOs, but we don’t have to look very far to find out why Monsanto director of public affairs Brad Mitchell is debating Linn Cohen-Cole, a Grandmother on Opednews.
Linn’s most popular Opednews articles in the last 6 months (by Page Views)
#2 Goodbye farmers markets, CSAs, and roadside stands
#4 Monsanto's dream bill, HR 875
#12 Monsanto bills being rushed through Congress, set to destroy organic farming.
#37 Raids on Seeds (LIFE, itself) ... by Monsanto
#49 Farming: Why Obama's government is George Wallace, Monsanto is the KKK.
Although her articles are posted to assorted blogs and websites they don’t appear on Huffington Post, Daily Kos or other mainstream sites. So why is Opednews experiencing on-going denial of service attacks and Brad Mitchell pointing out the obvious problems with Linn’s arguments? [1]
As employees of Monsanto, our reactions alternate between amusement and incredulousness. Nowhere on the Web have we seen so much outlandish misinformation about Monsanto in one place. We’ve considered writing responses in the comment section of each post, but frankly none of us have the time to correct so much misinformation.
OrangeClouds115 at Daily Kos does an even better job explaining the truth about HR 875, "The Bill That Will Kill All Farms and Eat Your Babies"
I've got a number of things on my radar but there's one very stupid thing that is causing a huge commotion for no good reason. It's HR 875, the Food Safety Modernization Act, a bill by Rosa DeLauro with about 40 cosponsors (mostly progressives) and no chance of passing (yet). The bill is flawed. It's not perfect. She's introduced it into previous Congresses without this much fanfare and panic among the blogs. So let's get the facts straight so that I don't have to see any more erroneous and crazy, paranoid diaries on the rec list.
Don’t get me wrong, I wrote “Scared to Codex Death” of Monsanto and “They Call It ‘Pharming’ And It’s Phrightening!” 6 months ago: but HR 875, 876, 877 or 878 will probably pass thanks to Monsanto’s “unelected” representatives in the Congress regardless of Linn’s unrelenting attacks.
Irrespective, Round 1 has been decided and it goes to Linn Cohen-Cole and the urban farming movement.
Linn and the urban farming movement are threatening Monsanto’s ability to control the people.. with food (controlling oil is for nations).
Thanks to Linn and urban gardeners, a very loud and important conversation about Food is finally taking place in America and around the world.
People are finally asking the obvious questions: Who controls the food? Where does it come from? Is it healthy? Will there be anything to eat? And why has it been so cheap for so long?
And the question that scares Monsanto to death
Why don’t I and all of my neighbors just grow our own food...on one square foot of land? [2]
The conversation at Starbucks is no longer about which stocks or houses are going up but which vegetables sprout the fastest and how many crops can I get in before winter.
Read the entire article
Grandmother Scores
and the sequel
The Monsanto Connection
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Grandmother Scores Huge Victory over Monsanto
Written by Robert Singer
We are having trouble figuring out why Monsanto made Percy Schmeiser a hero for the growing movement against GMOs, but we don’t have to look very far to find out why Monsanto director of public affairs Brad Mitchell is debating Linn Cohen-Cole, a Grandmother on Opednews.
Linn’s most popular Opednews articles in the last 6 months (by Page Views)
#2 Goodbye farmers markets, CSAs, and roadside stands
#4 Monsanto's dream bill, HR 875
#12 Monsanto bills being rushed through Congress, set to destroy organic farming.
#37 Raids on Seeds (LIFE, itself) ... by Monsanto
#49 Farming: Why Obama's government is George Wallace, Monsanto is the KKK.
Although her articles are posted to assorted blogs and websites they don’t appear on Huffington Post, Daily Kos or other mainstream sites. So why is Opednews experiencing on-going denial of service attacks and Brad Mitchell pointing out the obvious problems with Linn’s arguments? [1]
As employees of Monsanto, our reactions alternate between amusement and incredulousness. Nowhere on the Web have we seen so much outlandish misinformation about Monsanto in one place. We’ve considered writing responses in the comment section of each post, but frankly none of us have the time to correct so much misinformation.
OrangeClouds115 at Daily Kos does an even better job explaining the truth about HR 875, "The Bill That Will Kill All Farms and Eat Your Babies"
I've got a number of things on my radar but there's one very stupid thing that is causing a huge commotion for no good reason. It's HR 875, the Food Safety Modernization Act, a bill by Rosa DeLauro with about 40 cosponsors (mostly progressives) and no chance of passing (yet). The bill is flawed. It's not perfect. She's introduced it into previous Congresses without this much fanfare and panic among the blogs. So let's get the facts straight so that I don't have to see any more erroneous and crazy, paranoid diaries on the rec list.
Don’t get me wrong, I wrote “Scared to Codex Death” of Monsanto and “They Call It ‘Pharming’ And It’s Phrightening!” 6 months ago: but HR 875, 876, 877 or 878 will probably pass thanks to Monsanto’s “unelected” representatives in the Congress regardless of Linn’s unrelenting attacks.
Irrespective, Round 1 has been decided and it goes to Linn Cohen-Cole and the urban farming movement.
Linn and the urban farming movement are threatening Monsanto’s ability to control the people.. with food (controlling oil is for nations).
Thanks to Linn and urban gardeners, a very loud and important conversation about Food is finally taking place in America and around the world.
People are finally asking the obvious questions: Who controls the food? Where does it come from? Is it healthy? Will there be anything to eat? And why has it been so cheap for so long?
And the question that scares Monsanto to death
Why don’t I and all of my neighbors just grow our own food...on one square foot of land? [2]
The conversation at Starbucks is no longer about which stocks or houses are going up but which vegetables sprout the fastest and how many crops can I get in before winter.
Read the entire article
Grandmother Scores
and the sequel
The Monsanto Connection
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The problem is industrialized food production.
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Posted by: Ottomatic on Apr 7, 2009 3:15 AM
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Inedible Garbage
Pure unadulterated POISON.
ELIMINATE The CORPIRATE Middleman
Plant a Victory Garden today.
Become self sufficient, self reliant and efficient.
Survive and Prosper!
Go Local
Go Green
Go Organic!
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food/foodsafety/background-on-h-r-875
"Several of the things not found in the DeLauro can be found in other bills – like H.R. 814, the Tracing and Recalling Agricultural Contamination Everywhere Act, which calls for a mandatory animal identification system, or H.R. 759, the Food And Drug Administration Globalization Act, which overhauls the entire structure of FDA. H.R. 759 is more likely to move through Congress than H.R. 875. And H.R. 759 contains several provisions that could cause problems for small farms and food processors:
• It extends traceability recordkeeping requirements that currently apply only to food processors to farms and restaurants – and requires that recordkeeping be done electronically.
• It calls for standard lot numbers to be used in food production.
• It requires food processing plants to pay a registration fee to FDA to fund the agency’s inspection efforts.
• It instructs FDA to establish production standards for fruits and vegetables and to establish Good Agricultural Practices for produce.
There is plenty of evidence that one-size-fits-all regulation only tends to work for one size of agriculture – the largest industrialized operations. That’s why it is important to let members of Congress know how food safety proposals will impact the conservation, organic, and sustainable practices that make diversified, organic, and direct market producers different from agribusiness. And the work doesn’t stop there – if Congress passes any of these bills, the FDA will have to develop rules and regulations to implement the law, a process that we can’t afford to ignore.
But simply shooting down any attempt to fix our broken food safety system is not an approach that works for consumers, who are faced with a food supply that is putting them at risk and regulators who lack the authority to do much about it."
Read the full text of any of these bills. http://thomas.loc.gov/
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Posted by: eksommer on Apr 7, 2009 5:21 AM
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Let's see a bill that calls for humane treatment of animals from farm to table; for more inspectors to be sure the corporate food industry is safe for workers and consumers; and reasonable guidelines for small farmers and regional food producers that do not cause mountains of paperwork or the need for a computer, which many small farmers can ill afford, nor do they seek to spend their time that way as they spend most of their time and energy - FARMING.
Lets not allow the government to "lock up the food" as Daniel Quinn has told us countless times.
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Two that I know of specifically:
1) Prepared Food - baked goods and such - must be prepared in an inspected and certified kitchen. Thus no home baked goodies. This killed off some of the vendors, or at least got the blame. But it seems to me that a farmers market is the wrong demographic for overly sweet goods! And this made more room for actual produce.
2) Eggs must be sold in new containers with the source printed on it. Not widely enforced but it also hasn't been a big deal. Actually there is a perennial shortage of eggs - its getting too expensive to raise chickens, given the price of feed. When you can get it.
I am not worried about any of this legislation and I would happily join the attempt to enforce my right to grow whatever I damn well please and sell it to whoever is willing to buy.
Let the corporations and the governments amuse themselves trying to block a basic human right. They will end up looking foolish and petty. Instead of Tea Parties we'll have veggie parties. In Spain they celebrate with tomatoes. Imagine what we could do to the marbled buildings on the Capital Mall if every protester brought a case of some large, juicy variety such as Beefsteak - and well ripened!
We could literally paint the Capital red! Goes well with oregano......
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Posted by: ellie on Apr 7, 2009 7:32 AM
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seed stock for 'heirloom' veggies were the first to fly off the shelves... you can seed store heirloom seeds easily from year to year...
just try to buy a grow light to start your seedlings, out of stock...
farm store guy said it may not have enough chicks ordered to meet demand this year...
lawn seed and equipment is not selling as fast as in the past... flowers are beautiful but folks want veggie plants this year...
is there a pattern going on here???
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Some days I love Alternet. This isn't one of those days.
Fortunately, there are sites such as www.organicconsumers.org, www.truefoodnow.org and www.cornucopia.org (Cornucopia Institute), where people can keep up with what's really going on with all this murky legislation, and let Alternet be oblivious.
There is another one too, S. 384.
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Posted by: liberal is good on Apr 7, 2009 8:22 AM
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Monsanto has been in the forefront of all the major issues with our declined control of real food with all it’s natural nutrition. This is the company that tried to STOP SEED TRADING among small farmers in India !!!.
Their goal is to sell their GMO based seeds to every farmer on the planet. When they couldn’t quite corrupt all the farmers here they thought who would find out about some nobody farmer in India... fortunately they were wrong.
What is the Monsanto seed? It’s a seed genetically modified in many ways. How? Name one you say? How about the fact that their seeds die after the plant matures.
and that their contract with the farmers state they MUST buy seeds from them.
and no one else and every year.
You know the plants created by Mother Nature, you take the seeds and start again the next year.... not so with Monsanto.
How about the Connecticut farmer who was sued by the big M. for stating on their milk cartons that their milk did not contain rBGH, Big M said it made people think their milk was not good. Yea Duh !!
First of all it will be a burden on small farmers, that is part of it, the beginning.
do you know that all subsides to “help” farmers are only given to big argri business.
Why is that? The Lobbyists, and an ignorant lazy government. Which means if they can’t stay in business I get screwed because I can’t choose... the choice is made by big business and the little guys.... who dare speak truth to power, ........ die..........
FOOD WILL NOT BE SAFER. You don’t get it. We bury news of mad cow, we bury anything that will take money out of the pockets of agri- business. Why do you think that these guys are any less innocent than a Bernie Madoff or AIG or the brokers and bankers who.... brought this country to it’s knees?
They don’t enforce the current laws, WHY, HOW ? They just don’t fund them !!!!!
There are farmers who raise organic beef, some who raise purely grass fed beef.
These people are not big agri- business but they can trace their animals... so why can’t agri- business? Cost, & lower profits.
How about Irradiation?Instead of cleaning up the slaughter houses that breed most of the diseases they implement irradiation.... do you know what that essentially is? The feces or organisms that are on the meat stay there, they are just irradiated so they won’t harm you !
Now is that protection you want ??
Next time you dig into a big steak think about irradiation. Why don’t we just fully fund the FDA, so they can do their job and be less prone to bribery and threats.
It’s all about money and power. Period.
"It makes one wonder if it will take the U.S. population and its government, as long to realize that the food these companies are feeding us is destroying our health, as it did for us to become aware that the cigarettes they were selling us were killing us."
-- Food Politics by Marion Nestle,
.... in reference to the $8M from Phillip Morris awarded to widow of chain smoker.
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Posted by: snezy on Apr 7, 2009 8:56 AM
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IPC (International Policy Council on Agriculture, Food and Trade) was founded in 1987 by the Agri-Corps to push international food and Ag regs
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Ann Veneman employed by Monsanto (Calgene), lead the GATT trade delegation and is an IPC Member Emeritus. She also worked for Patten Bogg “We were among the first law firms to recognize that all three branches of government could serve as forums in which to achieve client goals, enabling us to emerge as the nation’s leading public policy law firm, and we have developed our extensive business law capabilities into the firm’s largest practice area.” Patton Boggs
Bernard Auxenfans member of the Board of Directors at IPC is former chairman Monsanto France
Mickey Kantor US trade representative (USTR) for the Uruguay Round of negotiations, became a Monsanto board member.
Robert Shapiro, chairman of Monsanto, was lead advisor for Clinton's Committee for Trade Policy and Negotiations when WTO was ratified in 1995.
Marcia Hale, a former assistant to President Clinton and director for intergovernmental affairs, was director of international government affairs for Monsanto.
What was IPC pushing??
"Measures to trace animals...to provide assurances on...safety ..have been incorporated into international standards... The Agreement on the Application of Sanitary and Phytosanitary Measures...Aims to ensure that governments DO NOT USE QUARANTINE AND FOOD SAFETY REQUIREMENTS as Unjustified trade barriers... It provides Member countries with a right to implement traceability {NAIS} as an SPS measure." source
“Development of risk-based systems [HACCP] has been heavily influenced by the WTO Agreement on the Application of Sanitary and Phytosanitary Measures ” OIE report Oct 2008 a href="http://www.oie.int/eng/normes/mcode/en_chapitre_1.6.1.htm">source
In 1993, HACCP guidelines were developed by the Codex Alimentarius, a joint Programme of FAO & WHO. FAO This system replaced US food regs in 1996. (HACCP & open borders account for the increase in tainted food)
September 2008 FDA on International Harmonization:
"Failure to reach a consistent, harmonized set of laws, regulations and standards within the free trade agreements and the World Trade Organization Agreements can result in considerable economic repercussions." FDA
I have 15 pages of connections between Internat'l Regs, WTO, Big Ag & US government. Ag Corps wants a vertically integrated food system and no competition. They used Ann Vennaman & Dan Amstrutz (Cargill)to write what they wanted and Robert Shapiro to see it was ratified by Clinton & Congress. Now they want to finish the job.
Want more connections?
January 2005: Guide to good farming practices: From Report of the Meeting of the OIE (Paris, 17-28 January 2005) OIE
The Farm Guide's written, we get the bill: Safe and Secure Food Act of 2005 bill
1995, USDA's Food Safety & Inspection Service (600 pg Doc) "Farm-To-Table - control of every step in the food chain from production to home preparation." source
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Posted by: djnoll on Apr 7, 2009 9:56 AM
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Small farm operations and localized food distributors (CSAs, farmers' markets) are not seriously large competitors to organized agribusiness, and certainly do not present the health and safety dangers that corporate agriculture does. As for the home garden producer, well, if Conagra thinks my vegetables are a threat to their business, they are just plain insane (besides, if I get anything to grow this year, I will be real lucky!)
It is time, not to regulate agricultural producers like small family farms or farmers' markets, but rather time to strip corporations of their personhood status and break up these oligarchical corporations. It is time to return the land to farmers who will restore it and nurture it so that it can feed our nation with healthy foods instead of poisons and food abominations. It is time, America, to stop Corporations and return our country to its living, breathing people. Our economy was based on small businesses and small farms, and it is time to return to that. We can still compete on a global scale, because we are innovative and we are industrious. Think about the real of irony of corporations being taken down by just a few seeds of honesty and hard work!?!
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Posted by: Nasookin on Apr 7, 2009 10:40 AM
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The uncontrolled wind drift of pollen from genetically modified crops will do the job "naturally" and just as efficiently.
Once an organic crop is contaminated with GMO's it can no longer be considered "organic."
According to Monsanto it was all the fault of Saskatchewan canola farmer and seed breeder, Percy Schmeiser, that his crop was contaminated with Monsanto's round up ready canola even though Monsanto could not prove Schmeiser stole, purchased or otherwise used their patented round up ready canola seed.
The very fact that Schmeiser's crop was only partially contaminated with Monsanto's genetic engineered canola pollen was evidence enough to demonstrate Monsanto's pollen was the trespasser. However, that did not count with a Canadian federal court judge. So even patent laws are rigged against the organic farmer.
In India, since 1997 to the present, over 150,000 farmers have committed suicide because the seed patents indenture farmers - preventing them from saving patented seeds thereby forcing them to purchase seed for the next year crop. Furthermore, these patented seeds are modified to only germinate when exposed to a particular brand chemical fertilizer and be immune to a particular brand of herbicide. Unfortunately, these seeds do not deliver the patent owners promise. The crop yields are actually fewer because these seeds often do not germinate and the farmer often ends up with little no crop to harvest or sell. He is left destitute.[1]
Some people, like Henry Kissinger, may call that population control - others will say "genocide."
Biotechnology's best and only example of a promise of better nutrition lies with the patented "Golden Rice," that has been genetically engineered to contain Beta Carotene (pro vitamin A). So far, Golden Rice is the only example of genetic engineering a crop for a high specific nutrient content. Unfortunately this has not gone anywhere because the farmers can't afford the seeds and in practical terms, one would have to consume several bowls of the rice and still not get enough of the recommenced dietary requirement for pro vitamin A. By contrast, one serving of an orange yam, a member of the morning glory family of plants (not the pale yellow sweet potato) contains well in excess of 11,000 I.U.'s (International Units) of Beta Carotene per serving.
In any event, nutrient depleted food, either through genetic manipulation or modern processing methods for shelf life, means sick people and guaranteed profits for the pharmacartels and the doctor business.
Fortification with piddling amounts of mostly synthetic vitamins is too little and too late.
Croft Woodruff MH PhD (Honoris causa)
Coquitlam BC V3B 7H8
CANADA
PS: My thanks to Nasookin for permitting access to post.
[1]www.globalresearch.ca
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The day WILL NOT come when the government will intrude on private gardens.
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The day WILL NOT come when the government will intrude on private gardens.
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If they're really serious about "safety", how about forcing food companies to say on labels what's exactly in those "natural flavors".
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Posted by: researchit on Apr 7, 2009 2:54 PM
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1) the USDA will be investigating the flawed/rigged testing by genetic engineering companies?
2) that the USDA will be labeling all food containing ANY genetically engineered plants or cloned animals?
3) are they going to label irradiated food?
4) are they going to INCREASE inspections of the big food processing plants and slaughterhouses?
5) are they going to increase the inspections of imported food
OR
are they just going to drive small farmers out of business with mountains of paperwork?
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Apr 7, 2009 3:04 PM
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Posted by: tean on Apr 7, 2009 4:38 PM
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I am very dissapointed that you have choosen to marginalize those with accurate concerns over food legislation, and even used a mainstream media calling card - dismissing people by saying they are conspiracy theorists, or Ron Paul supporters. What is that even supposed to mean?
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Posted by: Michiganman on Apr 7, 2009 6:10 PM
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Another real threat is the new DNA Engineered foods. People can say organic all they want but if you don't have original seed you are kidding yourselves. These new genetically engineered foods have not been tested on humans for long term effect. And if some pollen impregnates your plants you can be sued because you do not hold the patent to the next generation and must buy the seed from the patent holder....Crazy but true!
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Posted by: FarmerPete on Apr 7, 2009 6:23 PM
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“Rule of Interpretation
“No provision of this act shall be deemed to apply (a) to any home, home-business, homestead, small farm (including organic or natural) agricultural activity, social club, association, church, school or other local organization, (b) to any family farm or ranch, or (c) to any natural or organic food product, including dietary supplements regulated under the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994.”
(text copied from http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=2394)
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Posted by: jpom22 on Apr 7, 2009 7:13 PM
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By Sue Diederich and Linn Cohen-Cole March 16, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/bjvvug
The Pennsylvania Association for Sustainable Agriculture (PASA) sent out information about HR 875, which lists 'facts' to counter 'myths' and 'rumors' on the internet. It gives no specifics to back up its 'facts,' so the following close up view of the bill and accompanying commentary offers readers a chance to decide for themselves what is myth and what is fact.
Sue Diederich heads the Illinois Independent Consumers and Farmers Association, an organization formed to protect the rights of farmers and consumers to deal directly with each other without government interference. Neither of us are lawyers, but we both can read. We invite progressive headliners to read the bills themselves and provide their own analysis. The Left needs to understand what their conservative brothers and sisters in farming view as an alarming attempt to seize absolute control of all attempts at private (non-corporate), healthy, organic food growing and sharing. ~LCC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epXNJNjYBvw
People seem to expect HR 875 to be titled "The Criminalization of Organic Farming and the Take over of the US Food Supply." When they don't see any words to that effect anywhere in the bill, they declare "this bill is fine" and those seeing dangers are "alarmists." Do they think the industrial side is composed of fools? These are the same people who make cheery cereals with cartoon characters on the box when, inside, high fructose corn syrup is all over the cereal which comes from Bt-corn associated with diabetes. HFCS is, too, and there is an epidemic of diabetes here even among children. They know how to package. Why do people understand that industrial food inside a box can be a problem and yet are so innocent about looking at the bills, not realizing there is packaging there, too, or how much is at stake that the public and even legislators not see since this is about taking control. The industrial side isn't stupid.
Understanding parts of the bill at times depends on smelling smoke as you read it. Here in the US, we still have only smoke ... an Ohio state ag department SWAT team raid on an organic coop, Pennsylvania ag department raids on horse and buggy Mennonites, California setting coliform levels so low fresh milk dairy farmers would need cows that produced pasteurized milk right out the udder, arrest and handcuffing of a single mother in front of her children for selling goat milk, the USDA paying its agents bonuses for foreclosing on farms... But in the EU where 60% of the Polish farmers are now gone because of identical bills enacted into law there, and 60 UK farmers have committed suicide, there is fire. And in Iraq, where they have been rendered helpless serfs by the theft of their country's seeds and criminalization of farmers' collection of their own seed, it is roaring. And in India where 182,000 farmers have committed suicide since the WTO and IMF got hold of agriculture and our Big Ag firms went in there, and 8 million farmers have left the land, it is out of control.
The World Trade Organization (WTO), run by the multinational meat packers and genetic engineering corporations, want HR 875, here. The bills are "harmonized" rules for globalization of food and lower food safety standards to allow for it. Those corporations are members of NIAA, a corporate consortium that brought NAIS, created by Anne Veneman, to the USDA to be made into law. (see much more at website)
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Posted by: Longdream on Apr 7, 2009 7:15 PM
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Outside of that, the whole damned thing is incoherent.
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Posted by: xtiml on Apr 8, 2009 2:50 PM
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Posted by: rds2301 on May 1, 2009 7:09 AM
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Grandmother Scores Huge Victory over Monsanto
Written by Robert Singer
We are having trouble figuring out why Monsanto made Percy Schmeiser a hero for the growing movement against GMOs, but we don’t have to look very far to find out why Monsanto director of public affairs Brad Mitchell is debating Linn Cohen-Cole, a Grandmother on Opednews.
Linn’s most popular Opednews articles in the last 6 months (by Page Views)
#2 Goodbye farmers markets, CSAs, and roadside stands
#4 Monsanto's dream bill, HR 875
#12 Monsanto bills being rushed through Congress, set to destroy organic farming.
#37 Raids on Seeds (LIFE, itself) ... by Monsanto
#49 Farming: Why Obama's government is George Wallace, Monsanto is the KKK.
Although her articles are posted to assorted blogs and websites they don’t appear on Huffington Post, Daily Kos or other mainstream sites. So why is Opednews experiencing on-going denial of service attacks and Brad Mitchell pointing out the obvious problems with Linn’s arguments? [1]
As employees of Monsanto, our reactions alternate between amusement and incredulousness. Nowhere on the Web have we seen so much outlandish misinformation about Monsanto in one place. We’ve considered writing responses in the comment section of each post, but frankly none of us have the time to correct so much misinformation.
OrangeClouds115 at Daily Kos does an even better job explaining the truth about HR 875, "The Bill That Will Kill All Farms and Eat Your Babies"
I've got a number of things on my radar but there's one very stupid thing that is causing a huge commotion for no good reason. It's HR 875, the Food Safety Modernization Act, a bill by Rosa DeLauro with about 40 cosponsors (mostly progressives) and no chance of passing (yet). The bill is flawed. It's not perfect. She's introduced it into previous Congresses without this much fanfare and panic among the blogs. So let's get the facts straight so that I don't have to see any more erroneous and crazy, paranoid diaries on the rec list.
Don’t get me wrong, I wrote “Scared to Codex Death” of Monsanto and “They Call It ‘Pharming’ And It’s Phrightening!” 6 months ago: but HR 875, 876, 877 or 878 will probably pass thanks to Monsanto’s “unelected” representatives in the Congress regardless of Linn’s unrelenting attacks.
Irrespective, Round 1 has been decided and it goes to Linn Cohen-Cole and the urban farming movement.
Linn and the urban farming movement are threatening Monsanto’s ability to control the people.. with food (controlling oil is for nations).
Thanks to Linn and urban gardeners, a very loud and important conversation about Food is finally taking place in America and around the world.
People are finally asking the obvious questions: Who controls the food? Where does it come from? Is it healthy? Will there be anything to eat? And why has it been so cheap for so long?
And the question that scares Monsanto to death
Why don’t I and all of my neighbors just grow our own food...on one square foot of land? [2]
The conversation at Starbucks is no longer about which stocks or houses are going up but which vegetables sprout the fastest and how many crops can I get in before winter.
Read the entire article
Grandmother Scores
and the sequel
The Monsanto Connection
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Posted by: rds2301 on May 1, 2009 7:16 AM
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Grandmother Scores Huge Victory over Monsanto
Written by Robert Singer
We are having trouble figuring out why Monsanto made Percy Schmeiser a hero for the growing movement against GMOs, but we don’t have to look very far to find out why Monsanto director of public affairs Brad Mitchell is debating Linn Cohen-Cole, a Grandmother on Opednews.
Linn’s most popular Opednews articles in the last 6 months (by Page Views)
#2 Goodbye farmers markets, CSAs, and roadside stands
#4 Monsanto's dream bill, HR 875
#12 Monsanto bills being rushed through Congress, set to destroy organic farming.
#37 Raids on Seeds (LIFE, itself) ... by Monsanto
#49 Farming: Why Obama's government is George Wallace, Monsanto is the KKK.
Although her articles are posted to assorted blogs and websites they don’t appear on Huffington Post, Daily Kos or other mainstream sites. So why is Opednews experiencing on-going denial of service attacks and Brad Mitchell pointing out the obvious problems with Linn’s arguments? [1]
As employees of Monsanto, our reactions alternate between amusement and incredulousness. Nowhere on the Web have we seen so much outlandish misinformation about Monsanto in one place. We’ve considered writing responses in the comment section of each post, but frankly none of us have the time to correct so much misinformation.
OrangeClouds115 at Daily Kos does an even better job explaining the truth about HR 875, "The Bill That Will Kill All Farms and Eat Your Babies"
I've got a number of things on my radar but there's one very stupid thing that is causing a huge commotion for no good reason. It's HR 875, the Food Safety Modernization Act, a bill by Rosa DeLauro with about 40 cosponsors (mostly progressives) and no chance of passing (yet). The bill is flawed. It's not perfect. She's introduced it into previous Congresses without this much fanfare and panic among the blogs. So let's get the facts straight so that I don't have to see any more erroneous and crazy, paranoid diaries on the rec list.
Don’t get me wrong, I wrote “Scared to Codex Death” of Monsanto and “They Call It ‘Pharming’ And It’s Phrightening!” 6 months ago: but HR 875, 876, 877 or 878 will probably pass thanks to Monsanto’s “unelected” representatives in the Congress regardless of Linn’s unrelenting attacks.
Irrespective, Round 1 has been decided and it goes to Linn Cohen-Cole and the urban farming movement.
Linn and the urban farming movement are threatening Monsanto’s ability to control the people.. with food (controlling oil is for nations).
Thanks to Linn and urban gardeners, a very loud and important conversation about Food is finally taking place in America and around the world.
People are finally asking the obvious questions: Who controls the food? Where does it come from? Is it healthy? Will there be anything to eat? And why has it been so cheap for so long?
And the question that scares Monsanto to death
Why don’t I and all of my neighbors just grow our own food...on one square foot of land? [2]
The conversation at Starbucks is no longer about which stocks or houses are going up but which vegetables sprout the fastest and how many crops can I get in before winter.
Read the entire article
Grandmother Scores
and the sequel
The Monsanto Connection
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