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The Scavenger's Manifesto: Why Dumpster Diving Can Save You from Going Off the Deep End
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The following is an adapted excerpt from The Scavenger's Manifesto (Tarcher Press, 2009) by Anneli Rufus and Kristan Lawson.
My eyes are lighthouse beacons. Enroute to a family gathering, I spot a box marked FREE on a curb. This, right here, is the meaning of life. Swim goggles: Yes. Pink T-shirt: Yes. Blender: I already have one, so no. "Kiss Me, I'm Irish" apron: No. Six bars of hotel soap, sealed in their wrappers: Yoink. Into the backpack pops the salad fork, the crocheted scarf. Assess each in a nanosecond. Do I want this? Do I need it? Does my friend?
When they ask at the family gathering why I am late and I say I was garnering a stranger's discards, they laugh. When they realize I am serious, they flinch, their faces masks of pity, fear, disgust. They ask: But why? Weren't those discards dirty? What if someone bled on that T-shirt? Can't you afford a salad fork?
Oh, that. Scavengers hear it all the time.
And more:
What if it doesn't fit?
What if it's dented/scratched/stained/faded/ripped?
Wouldn't you rather pick the exact color/style/size/features you want?
Um, no.
In consumer culture, the very idea of getting stuff by any means outside the standard retail channel at any speed but warp speed is sacrilege.
A sin.
In corporate America, not-shopping is treason.
An abomination.
Yet a confluence of factors — style, politics, technology, ecology and the economy — is making more and more of us seek more and more alternate (but legal) means of acquiring stuff. We're scavengers. We're consumer culture's cleanup crew. Goods and services circle the world, connecting strangers: not a penny spent.
The Book of Genesis damns us. And the Book of Leviticus deems us untouchable.
We are thrift-shoppers, coupon-clippers, bargain-hunters, beachcombers, trash-pickers. We are treasure-seekers, recyclers, freecyclers.
We don't steal.
We don't scam.
But we don't pay full-price. We don't pay at all if we can help it.
Two thousand years ago, half the world's population survived by hunting and gathering. With the rise of civilization, old-fashioned hunting and gathering became virtually obsolete. But all modern-day scavengers are hunter-gatherers. Define hunter-gathering as foraging, taking what comes. Define it as sublimating choice to the bigger thrill of chance. It translates to saving money and potentially working less. It translates to dodging whatever market sector some genius thinks you belong to. Modern scavenging means wearing, using and eating castoff goods from countless strangers, thus you cannot be predicted, tracked, deciphered. You are the mystery. With lighthouse eyes, you find furniture, fashions, art, appliances, jewelry, food. You scavenge seeds. Sometimes you do not know what they are when you plant them, and find out only when plants rise: My garden grows parsley, purple tomatillos, three kinds of bok choy. You never know.
That is the point.
That is the challenge and the payoff and the thrill: the never knowing, then the waiting, then the finding out. Can you handle uncertainty?
This is the magic, the apotheosis, of the random. In a paved world, modern scavengers reclaim discovery. Adventure. Self-reliance. Self-sufficiency.
The modern scavenger reclaims the quest.
Some scavenge for fun. Some scavenge to save. Money. The world. Their souls. While consumers around us drown in debt, we liberate ourselves with every cent we save while liberating would-be trash. We know the difference between brand-new, full-price products and their dented, scavenged counterparts is —
Debt.
Some scavenge to recycle. Repurpose. Reduce. Reuse.
Some scavenge to revolt.
Some scavenge to survive.
Some scavenge for the sake of spontaneity. That is another primal ecstasy that consumer culture has quashed. Consumer culture wants consumers to imagine themselves free and democratic, decisive and bold. Consumer culture teaches that choosing the color of your phone is creativity. Up to a point, it is. A tiny calculated creativity comprising elements designed and sold by corporations. Control disguised as creativity. A short-leashed independence based on your ability and willingness to buy. But what is missing from this picture?
It's funny: Consumers think they're free.
How do we tell them how it is for us? How do we tell them that, for us, old stuff and stuff that has been previously owned attains a patina, almost a soul? How do we say that every find not only saves us cash but makes us wonder whose it was, our minds skittering down the years of all those whens and whys. How do we tell consumers that mass-produced new merchandise bores and depresses us? How do we say that it is we who pity them when they spend $90 on the same shoes that cost (or will, soon) $6 at the thrift shop? How can we describe the size of landfills, the islands of trash — ten million pounds' worth, experts say — floating at sea? Do we cite findings by the Clean Air Council that every American alive discards fifty-six tons of trash per year?
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Posted by: jparsons on Mar 21, 2009 1:38 AM
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is council property. Each time, this is totally
ignored because it just makes sense for gleaners to
take what they can before the trucks come.
I got a picnic table and several drawers in good
condition (for underbed storage - guess I don't have
to buy plastic bins now!)
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» perhaps your council understands that those in the landfill business need everything possible to
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» Yer still dependent on the wastefullness of the consumer economy
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Posted by: photon's feather on Mar 21, 2009 3:15 AM
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It's not garbage-picking
It's recycling!
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Posted by: dallis on Mar 21, 2009 3:31 AM
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We can be the missing step that diverts this "stuff" from the landfill, even if we don't "need" it ourselves
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Mar 21, 2009 3:44 AM
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» The thrift stores have twice as many people in them
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» RE: Crowded
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» RE: There's no shortage of people buying stuff
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Posted by: solitarysherlockian on Mar 21, 2009 4:12 AM
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» RE: Ah, yes--one person's trash anothers Ebay
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Posted by: richholland on Mar 21, 2009 4:23 AM
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if to many people recycle we need no war for oil anymore.
anyway the Superrich always kept old things in the family and called it ANTIQUE
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Posted by: floridahank on Mar 21, 2009 4:33 AM
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is packaging good food that might be getting
a bit close to overriping on a special table
in the store on most days. If I get there
@ 9-10 a.m. I can buy bananas for 10 cents
a pound, tomatoes, red peppers, squash for 15
cents/pd, plus canned food with a torn label
for 75% discounted, etc. So many great
bargains for the early shoppers. Since I
ride a bike daily, a trip to the store doesn't
cost anything, so it's all "profit."
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» veg not the only thing marked down
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» Especially at the expensive grocery stores!
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Posted by: beachcomberT on Mar 21, 2009 4:57 AM
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» Way to intentionally miss the point to look clever and show off your snarkiness.
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» People like that will have a hard time adjusting to resource constraints.
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» RE: Way to intentionally miss the point to look clever and show off your snarkiness.
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» RE: Finding the primo Dumpsters
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» check the title of this article again
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» RE: Finding the primo Dumpsters
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Posted by: Suzon on Mar 21, 2009 5:01 AM
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Freecycle is newer and probably closer to the ethos of this article. It's a local internet-based system where people simply offer what they don't want to someone who wants it.
The 20th century was madness, by and large--much invention and much destruction. Let's hope for an outbreak of sanity in the 21st.
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» but if everyone starts doing it (think prohibition of home brews) AND confronts our
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» RE: no mention of LETS (local exchange and trading scheme) or Freecycle?
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» There is a mention of freecycle in the article - but no link
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» RE: apologies for lack of link--technologically I'm not up to scratch...
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» By now hopefully everyone knows about "Privacy Center"
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» Don't click on that link (IDENTITY THEFT!)
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» RE: Gangs Own Dumpster Diving Rights.
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» The clutter problem
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Posted by: cori on Mar 21, 2009 7:06 AM
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Call or email you senator. 202- 224 -3121 Electing Obama was not enough. We need to keep it up. These Democrats are still on the take from special interests and are sellling our nation down the drain in the midst of a depression.I live in New York and Rangel must go. We need people who will work for us. Not keep transferring our tax dollars to the rich.
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» way to stay on topic
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Posted by: cori on Mar 21, 2009 7:10 AM
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Call or email you senator. 202- 224 -3121 Electing Obama was not enough. We need to keep it up. These Democrats are still on the take from special interests and are sellling our nation down the drain in the midst of a depression.I live in New York and Rangel must go. We need people who will work for us. Not keep transferring our tax dollars to the rich.
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Posted by: Vinkenoog on Mar 21, 2009 7:14 AM
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How 'bout we take this one step further and just say "enough is enough" I simply don't need any more stuff!
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» Answer: how dumpster diving makes a difference
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Posted by: Gravitas on Mar 21, 2009 7:21 AM
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p.s. Anyone in Chicago, on Pulaski and Ardmore there is a compound with a nature center (you can see deer) and a recycling center with a stuff exchange. It is very cool!
p.p.s About that firefighters have longer hoses sweatshirt. I date a ff off and on. It's true :)
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Posted by: kattfish on Mar 21, 2009 8:36 AM
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I taught my kids that no matter how much you spend on clothes, once you wash them, they are used. You might as well get 2 pair of jeans for your money at the thrift store.
I stop to pick up items, freecycled, shopped at thrift stores and barter my way thru' life. I just don't understand why more people don't do it. It's so important for some to keep up with the neighbors, your worth is your material worth? Stupid way to think, you can't take it with you when you die, only leave it to clutter the landscape.
Peace,
Katt
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Posted by: Trubeck on Mar 21, 2009 8:38 AM
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» RE: So this is what it's come to.
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» Its come to the majority of the world being ignorant, like yourself.
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» social engineering?
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» There speaks the perfect consumer...
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Posted by: ellie on Mar 21, 2009 8:56 AM
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a full dresser refinished, gorgeous and still in use many years later...
2- $500.00 suits that are still classic and in style... perfect condition...
assorted mismatched perfect dishes including several pieces of depression ware and fiesta ware, still in use...
my favorite is a tattered, semi-upholstered, circa 1970 folding aluminum chair, that still sits like a dream...
a set of storm windows that made a perfect cold frame with a few hinges screwed in...
it's a matter of finding what you will use and continue to use, not just digging through junk and dragging it home...
miss heavy trash days... it isn't done anymore because 'riff-raff' comes through rich neighborhoods and spoil the Utopian aura... now you call and make an appt for the trash truck to come by... no curbside dropoffs...
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Mar 21, 2009 9:18 AM
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Posted by: rafaeltoral on Mar 21, 2009 9:35 AM
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The store I work at has a very liberal return policy. I work in the supplements dept. Many of the returns are still sealed and in perfect condition.
We arent allowed to put these back on the shelf. We arent allowed to keep the products ourselves. We arent allowed to donate the products to charity. We are forced to throw all of this stuff out. Unfortunatly it doesnt go in a dumpster. It goes in a compactor. A total and utter waste.
If I were to try and take any of this stuff I would be fired. I have let leadership know how I and others feel about this. The people in charge dont care. They just dont want to get fired.
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» Stay out of my shit!
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» What are you fucking complaining about? You've got a postal worker union job and are perfect.
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» i have asked cops specifically about this
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» You're right. I feel bad about the way all good looking plastics out there are rendered disposable
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» RIGHT ON MOTHERFUCKER!!! IM WITH U ALL THE WAY
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Posted by: Libertine on Mar 21, 2009 11:48 AM
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When I was a kid in the sixties, I remember that my mother was always out to get a good bargain. As well as being a thrift shop habitué, she wasn’t above rooting through people’s trash if she saw something interesting. She'd sometimes see old upholstered furniture in people's trash as we'd drive through different neighborhoods. She'd have my father to stop the car and grab it. Though the upholstery would be stained or torn, the wooden framework would be sound. She ended up having such pieces reupholstered and they'd be as good as new.
By the time I headed off to college in the late 70s, I’d learned that people throw away all sorts of useful items, some nearly new. I regularly checked the dumpsters around my apartment complex, as the population was highly transient. I’d put on a pair of my rattiest jeans when going “dumpster diving” and climb right in. I didn’t care what other people might think.
Many students moving out ditched a lot of good stuff, so they’d not have to bother with moving it. I ended up with lots of clothes, usually neatly bagged so that other trash wouldn’t foul it, plates, silverware, a couch, and some chairs.
A few years later I regularly went dumpster diving with a friend, who knew all the “good dumpsters” in town, usually in affluent neighborhoods. We usually checked the Salvation Army and Goodwill drop boxes as well, because the law stated that items placed around the box, but not inside, were fair game. We’d regularly come home with a good haul, either to keep or to sell at the flea market.
I’ve not done any trash picking in years, but not too long ago when out driving, I passed a house that had several pieces of furniture put out for the trash. I was especially interested in a bookcase and a couple of kitchen chairs. I made plans to come pick it up later, as I didn't have the time to do it just then. Unfortunately, when I returned, someone else had already gotten to it.
Damn.
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» you stole from *charities*? ...classy...
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Mar 21, 2009 11:58 AM
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Posted by: Dixie Dawg on Mar 21, 2009 12:37 PM
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Posted by: Evelyn on Mar 21, 2009 12:43 PM
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This can't be right. There are 52 weeks in a year. If my husband and I were each discarding 56 tons of trash per year, that would mean that every Monday when we took out our trash cans, we would be hauling over 2 tons (4000 pounds) to the curb. Even if they are including other forms of trash than what I put in the trash can, this seems off by orders of magnitude. I'll believe maybe 100 pounds a week. But not a ton per person per week.
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Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Mar 21, 2009 1:07 PM
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Nobody talks about Dumpster Diving. You're gonna ruin it for the rest of us. Sshh!!
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Posted by: digitalfrenzy on Mar 21, 2009 1:13 PM
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» Digital, drop the frenzy
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Posted by: margwa on Mar 21, 2009 1:28 PM
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People discarding bed bug infested items should destroy them before they discard them. Slash your mattresses, mark your furniture.
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» RE: Just be careful about Bed Bug infestations!!!
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Posted by: mattryes on Mar 21, 2009 2:33 PM
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Work clothes such as dungarees (originally used for shoveling shit) and painter's pants were cheap until they became trendy.
If you enjoy Dumpster Diving, then please shut the fuck up so that the marketing profiteers don't catch wind and ruin it for everyone.
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» It's funny how yuppies or more affluent people in general tend to adopt trends created
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Mar 21, 2009 3:29 PM
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...just say'n...
its great until it isn't...
yellow!
its the NEW GREEN!
perspective, people.
Perspective.
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Posted by: thelorax on Mar 21, 2009 5:01 PM
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I feel sorry for people that are too proud to dig through the crap (pun intended) and find the thing that saves your day from certain lameness and mediocrity. There is nothing like the feeling you get when you save something from the landfill. I'm particularly fond of the super sturdy hand crank items you find now and then. My grandmothers house is full of stuff that she swore we were going to break as children but are perfectly functioning to this day. They don't make it like they used to.
I decided to use old t-shirts cut up into little squares (well not too little) to clean myself after eliminating my bowels... I thought that if I could have used diapers for quite some time as a child that using re-usable (and recycled!) cotton fabric on my butt couldn't be any less dignified than wiping my ass with 200 year old trees. Try asking your guests to humor you on that one.
I do have a reputation for making people think about what they are doing here.
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Posted by: phindrup on Mar 21, 2009 6:32 PM
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Approximately 30 years ago a young friend, an unmarried mother, asked me to go scavenging with her. I was walking past the piles out on the footpaths for collection, pronouncing ‘junk!’ While she was like a terrier ferreting out useful bits and pieces. I relearned from the experience.
As I type this my computer desk, not a ‘make do’, but that is a closer fit to what I wanted than anything I have seen anywhere since, I picked up off the side of the road.
As I look around my office/bedroom 60 percent of what is here is scavenged.
In the main I scavenge, clean up and donate to charity shops. I would much rather see somebody getting use out of something than to see it in landfill.
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Posted by: TheLimit on Mar 21, 2009 6:44 PM
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If you aren't already a freecycle member, search on yahoo in recycling for lists to find your locals. You may do this from freecycle.org, but most of the lists are on yahoo still, and the process can be confusing if you start from freecycle. If your local list has moved, their list will say so, and if you just can't find one on yahoo, starting from freecycle.org may do the trick. This is an international project, and there are now freecycle lists operating all over the world. If there isn't one in your area, why not start one?
The Freegan link is to information on dumpster diving, so more info on this article in particular. Googling dumpster diving returns a substantial list too.
Have fun!
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 21, 2009 9:30 PM
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I thought you were a bit of a loon what with your Virus thing
But I searched what you said - thinking I would find nonsense
And I find from the Chechoslaviakia and The Canadian Press that what you were saying seems to be Completely TRUE
But there was and is a Petitition that has been signed by THOUSANDS of People from all over the World
All The Signatures Have Been Deleted
Its gone from Several Thousand to 35
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/
35 Total Signatures
I just ask Every Good American And True To Fight For Your Constitution
It Is All About FREEDOM
Not Tyranny
Love & Peace,
Tony
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Posted by: rewinn on Mar 21, 2009 11:32 PM
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So we have a silent arrangement. Management tacitly leaves this on the loading dock for about half-a-day. I like to let the street people have the first shot. They need it more than I.
Whatever's left, I bundle into my car and periodically drop off at my favorite thrift store (...retaining anything that suits me, of course, but I don't need much...).
This makes everyone happier. Management saves money, the thrift store resells the stuff to people who get a bargain.
Try to work with your building management, strike a similar deal. You'll be a hero!
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Posted by: lightwing1 on Mar 22, 2009 2:35 AM
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I have gotten alot from curbside and dumpster raids in my life - but even more from thrift stores. I am a member of a freecycle group and whatever I can't get rid of there goes to Good Will or if not there, then hazardous waste (they take things like half-used bottles of shampoo and the workers get to scrounge).
I never thought of it in terms of shameful or whatever - it just seemed practical and helped the bottom line. I wasn't even trying to be green. Of course, these days, I see the green bennie from it, but mostly it was just not to waste things - which seems horrible to me.
My other half and I are also very handy and fix everything we have whenever possible or buy replacement parts for larger appliances instead of dumping them. I drive a 17 year old car by choice (I could afford a new one), shop at Big Lots and Ross, Good Will, etc. I can afford not to do these things but it's habit and it saves money that I can then save for a house - something you can't get curbside.
It would never occur to me to look down on someone who dumpster dives - seems practical. But, I guess I didn't grow up in Disneyland, so I have different attitudes.
I hope this idea catches on in various forms. Americans do waste alot of very usable stuff.
Books go to the Public Library or Good Will. Magazines to Doctor's offices. Ink cartridges and toner to Office Depot. Hazardous waste like batteries and florescents, old glue, paint, chemicals to hazardous waste at my local waste vendor. All glass, paper, aluminium, plastics to recyclers - except for shrink wrap/saran wrap - not recyclable at this time. Peanuts to a local packaging shop that takes dirty mixes. Cardboard to recyclers. Old clothes to good will unless it's underwear/socks which go to recyclers in another town who take cloth. Old computers and all electronics to a computer recycler. Yard waste to recyclers/composters. Shoot - there is not much I don't recycle or give away. Two of us create one 5 lb. bag of garbage per week. If I had time I'd recycle kitchen scraps too but don't have time/room to compost.
Anyway, it didn't start out being a green thing for me - just a "hate to waste anything" thing that came from being poor. Now it's in vogue. Funny. How times change.
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Mar 22, 2009 2:53 AM
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The belief that limited resources will never run out is yet another crippling delusion of conservatives--on a par with the belief that Israel is righteous and DDT is good for you.
As you know, conservatives believe what they want to believe from birth to death, no matter what happens along the way. If things don't go their way, they will hire people to cook the stats for them rather than change their thinking. For me, this is one of the wonders of the age we live in.
How many times have you heard a Pub--usually without a degree in petroleum engineering--tell you there's "plenty of oil"? They have literally hired people to tell them this is so, over and over again. They will still be saying there's plenty of oil when the cars have turned to rust. In Winger World, there are always unlimited resources, with no consequences, and no strings attached.
Verily, today's Republicans are among the strangest people ever to walk the earth. No wonder they futzed things up so thoroughly.
Forgiving the Neocons. Yea, right.
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(hire a democratic Senator for that)
step2 start a limited company ask subsidy from Washington.
step 3 ; hire weed addicts to find the products
pay them in food stamps and free medical marihuana.
step 4 sell your company
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'nuff said.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 22, 2009 7:35 PM
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I had salvaged from a Council Tip in Beckenham, Kent, England about 20 years ago
It still works - but is fucking hard work
And sure - I think I should maybe not be aerating my lawn - and instead digging it all up to plant seed potatatoes and carrots and broccoli and tomatoes and stuff
My tomato seeds germinated in about 3 days
But I reckon we will be O.K. if we complain and demand that The War Criminals are Arrested.
WE can do this thing slow and nice and relatively painless
Or we can just STAND UP AND SHOUT
Or lay down and die
These guys in Control are Stupid Tossers
Nothing to Fear except Fear itself
Well
How was the TV tonight?
We went to see a Greek Band
Tony
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 22, 2009 7:52 PM
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This Is Fucking Brilliant - its the first time I have seen the video
Tony
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Posted by: dbendo on Mar 23, 2009 2:11 AM
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refinished they went for twice as much,with the table you could almost name your price.
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Posted by: Bliss Doubt on Mar 23, 2009 12:21 PM
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A friend of mine lives in a neighborhood where they have a "parade of garage sales" one weekend every April. In spite of being frugal, I always have stuff to sell, so I participate. We always fill a big box with stuff and add a sign, "free stuff". That box is the big draw. It empties out quickly, and brings people up the driveway to look at everything else we have. We refill that box when it gets empty. When we finish on Sunday evening, whatever isn't gone goes to various charities who will come and pick up everything you have left, without picking and choosing. Compare that to the mall, where there is still tons of unsold stuff at closing time every day.
Maybe second hand is dependent on consumerism, but I'm not sure it can be written off so easily. There have always been makers and peddlers of stuff, rag pickers, and uses for things that you no longer need. Children outgrow their clothes before the clothes are worn out. Nobody can stop that. Growing up, my favorite clothes came in a big box in the mail twice a year, from wealthy cousins in Houston who were a little older than me by a couple of years. I had the best clothes in my class, but I bragged that they were hand-me-downs.
The furniture I have that belonged to my grandma is my favorite. Most of the rest came from flea markets and thrift shops. My wicker headboard was leaning against the garbage cans that were out front of a house for the next pick-up. It had nothing wrong with it whatsoever.
I do buy new shoes.
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Posted by: HoboHomo on Mar 23, 2009 12:50 PM
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But I live in a single room, off a busy main street in San Francisco. Not an inch of earth to grow any food. And, on my low income it's a scary possibility I'll eventually become homeless.
I fully support the scavanger lifestyle...which really, was a vital component of the hippie/flower children culture some years back. The idea of recycling your clothing and other material needs and pleasures is nothing new.
But my main point is this: to talk flippantly, like it's just a simple thing to grow some of your own food, as if to say, "But of course you DO own a plot of land" is to exclude the many who are w/o a piece of earth to call their own.
I also don't own a car, or have any friends who do. So it's not like I can cruise the neighborhoods at night, and pick up discarded furniture for a second life. There is poverty, and there is poverty. Your solution is a form of scavenging for those with a enough affluence to still own a piece of land, and most likely, an automobile.
Leaving the rest of us--the REAL poor--out in the cold. Literally.
I'll bet you even have the luxury of still being able to afford dental care.
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Posted by: joechicago on Mar 23, 2009 12:53 PM
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www.urbanminers.com. I am copying your article and sending to my friends and relatives that think I am nuts. Oh, and also to my friends that think this is perfectly normal behavior- to spontaneously strap things on the side of the road to the roof of one's vehicle. Cheers
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Posted by: HoboHomo on Mar 23, 2009 1:23 PM
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Don't break laws. }}
In most places, it IS illegal to extract items from garbage cans and dumpsters. That is a basic truth, and if you pretend otherwise, you are deceiving your readers.
I scavenge all the time; glad to break the law for a good cause. Such as my survival.
As a scavenger, I'm already out of the status quo loop (including our laws). Don't hand ME any list of Do's and Don't's about HOW to scavenge. Who the hell do you think you are?
Oh, I get it: you're just trying to make big bucks by selling a book. You're not a REAL scavenger, you're a phony. I doubt you've ever done an ounce of scavenging in your life...or if you do, it's a lark, something fun to pass the time, definitely NOT a matter of survival.
The only satisfaction I get from your flaky little article is this:
One day, your book on scavenging that you hope will turn you into a (non-scavenging) millionaire, will be discovered in garbage bins by REAL scavengers, to be used as kindling for their campfires. (Sooner than later, I hope.)
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Posted by: TBoyWonder on Mar 28, 2009 6:47 PM
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I have one little quibble though, dumpstering is in fact illegal.Most places you can be charged with criminal tresspass, theft (for taking stuff out of the garbage, I know, ridiculous) or both. Human history is riddled with laws ranging from the unjust to the senseless and I see no reason that the other rules stated here should not be guidance enough.
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Posted by: dragongal on Mar 30, 2009 10:36 PM
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Now I live in an apt. complex w. a whole lot of dumpsters & discovered for myself the joys of taking a "walk by" a couple of times a week. I'm uninsured- have some heavy health issues, over 60, & have to take expensive meds- I can't work any sort of reg. job & exist because I have a remarkable & loving family who helps out w.rent/ other necessities. I lost most of my belongings along the way but am currently sitting in an apt. rather beautifully furnished almost exclusively w. dumpster finds- a solid oak dresser in perfect condition w. new hardware- a computer desk and chair -- that still were boxed w. price tags (over $400!) an oriental area rug, lamps & shades, 6 bookshleves, a convection toaster oven (also brand new) a lovely set of tableware, all kinds of kitchenware,Iron & ironing board, a handmade stained glass window hanging, a solid wood round table w. chairs, file cabinets, a dressing table w. antique mirror,- have also found 3 television sets w. remotes in perfect condition- one for my bedroom, one for my grandchildren, one donated to a friend ( the thrift stores / Sal. army won't take them anymore) a computer w. brand new innards, an also- brand- new dvd/vhs player, a digital camera and the device that creates the physical pictures from it, Beautiful pottery planters ( were still wrapped in tissue & in the box when found in the dumpster) 3 rose bushes in big planters... and on and on. And on top of all this bounty I found a discarded box of someones "left behinds" that included, hand blown perfume bottles & candleholders, 3 leaded glass jewelry boxes that contained 2 14kt. gold rings (one pearl & one diamond & tourmaline)3 watches, 4 sterling silver brooches, 3 sets of gemstone & silver earrings ( amethyst, peridot, citrine)& a pearl & silver bracelet. There's always skis, exercise equipment of all sorts (treadmills incl.) and all this is just what I've personally found in the 2 yrs. I've been here. I've also made a serious effort to take whatever I can't use or know who can to the donation centers-- I make 3-4 trips a mo. It boggles the mind that if I found this stuff then what else must be out there??!!To be found by others on the days I don't take my walks! ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, folks! ONE apt. complex.I also belong to 2 local Freecycle groups, a Freegan network,Reuse, Recycle & live a better, longer, healthier life...
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is council property. Each time, this is totally
ignored because it just makes sense for gleaners to
take what they can before the trucks come.
I got a picnic table and several drawers in good
condition (for underbed storage - guess I don't have
to buy plastic bins now!)
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Posted by: photon's feather on Mar 21, 2009 3:15 AM
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It's not garbage-picking
It's recycling!
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We can be the missing step that diverts this "stuff" from the landfill, even if we don't "need" it ourselves
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if to many people recycle we need no war for oil anymore.
anyway the Superrich always kept old things in the family and called it ANTIQUE
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is packaging good food that might be getting
a bit close to overriping on a special table
in the store on most days. If I get there
@ 9-10 a.m. I can buy bananas for 10 cents
a pound, tomatoes, red peppers, squash for 15
cents/pd, plus canned food with a torn label
for 75% discounted, etc. So many great
bargains for the early shoppers. Since I
ride a bike daily, a trip to the store doesn't
cost anything, so it's all "profit."
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Freecycle is newer and probably closer to the ethos of this article. It's a local internet-based system where people simply offer what they don't want to someone who wants it.
The 20th century was madness, by and large--much invention and much destruction. Let's hope for an outbreak of sanity in the 21st.
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Posted by: cori on Mar 21, 2009 7:06 AM
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Call or email you senator. 202- 224 -3121 Electing Obama was not enough. We need to keep it up. These Democrats are still on the take from special interests and are sellling our nation down the drain in the midst of a depression.I live in New York and Rangel must go. We need people who will work for us. Not keep transferring our tax dollars to the rich.
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Call or email you senator. 202- 224 -3121 Electing Obama was not enough. We need to keep it up. These Democrats are still on the take from special interests and are sellling our nation down the drain in the midst of a depression.I live in New York and Rangel must go. We need people who will work for us. Not keep transferring our tax dollars to the rich.
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Posted by: Vinkenoog on Mar 21, 2009 7:14 AM
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How 'bout we take this one step further and just say "enough is enough" I simply don't need any more stuff!
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Posted by: Gravitas on Mar 21, 2009 7:21 AM
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p.s. Anyone in Chicago, on Pulaski and Ardmore there is a compound with a nature center (you can see deer) and a recycling center with a stuff exchange. It is very cool!
p.p.s About that firefighters have longer hoses sweatshirt. I date a ff off and on. It's true :)
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Posted by: kattfish on Mar 21, 2009 8:36 AM
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I taught my kids that no matter how much you spend on clothes, once you wash them, they are used. You might as well get 2 pair of jeans for your money at the thrift store.
I stop to pick up items, freecycled, shopped at thrift stores and barter my way thru' life. I just don't understand why more people don't do it. It's so important for some to keep up with the neighbors, your worth is your material worth? Stupid way to think, you can't take it with you when you die, only leave it to clutter the landscape.
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» Its come to the majority of the world being ignorant, like yourself.
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Posted by: ellie on Mar 21, 2009 8:56 AM
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a full dresser refinished, gorgeous and still in use many years later...
2- $500.00 suits that are still classic and in style... perfect condition...
assorted mismatched perfect dishes including several pieces of depression ware and fiesta ware, still in use...
my favorite is a tattered, semi-upholstered, circa 1970 folding aluminum chair, that still sits like a dream...
a set of storm windows that made a perfect cold frame with a few hinges screwed in...
it's a matter of finding what you will use and continue to use, not just digging through junk and dragging it home...
miss heavy trash days... it isn't done anymore because 'riff-raff' comes through rich neighborhoods and spoil the Utopian aura... now you call and make an appt for the trash truck to come by... no curbside dropoffs...
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Mar 21, 2009 9:18 AM
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Posted by: rafaeltoral on Mar 21, 2009 9:35 AM
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The store I work at has a very liberal return policy. I work in the supplements dept. Many of the returns are still sealed and in perfect condition.
We arent allowed to put these back on the shelf. We arent allowed to keep the products ourselves. We arent allowed to donate the products to charity. We are forced to throw all of this stuff out. Unfortunatly it doesnt go in a dumpster. It goes in a compactor. A total and utter waste.
If I were to try and take any of this stuff I would be fired. I have let leadership know how I and others feel about this. The people in charge dont care. They just dont want to get fired.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Mar 21, 2009 11:00 AM
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Posted by: Libertine on Mar 21, 2009 11:48 AM
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When I was a kid in the sixties, I remember that my mother was always out to get a good bargain. As well as being a thrift shop habitué, she wasn’t above rooting through people’s trash if she saw something interesting. She'd sometimes see old upholstered furniture in people's trash as we'd drive through different neighborhoods. She'd have my father to stop the car and grab it. Though the upholstery would be stained or torn, the wooden framework would be sound. She ended up having such pieces reupholstered and they'd be as good as new.
By the time I headed off to college in the late 70s, I’d learned that people throw away all sorts of useful items, some nearly new. I regularly checked the dumpsters around my apartment complex, as the population was highly transient. I’d put on a pair of my rattiest jeans when going “dumpster diving” and climb right in. I didn’t care what other people might think.
Many students moving out ditched a lot of good stuff, so they’d not have to bother with moving it. I ended up with lots of clothes, usually neatly bagged so that other trash wouldn’t foul it, plates, silverware, a couch, and some chairs.
A few years later I regularly went dumpster diving with a friend, who knew all the “good dumpsters” in town, usually in affluent neighborhoods. We usually checked the Salvation Army and Goodwill drop boxes as well, because the law stated that items placed around the box, but not inside, were fair game. We’d regularly come home with a good haul, either to keep or to sell at the flea market.
I’ve not done any trash picking in years, but not too long ago when out driving, I passed a house that had several pieces of furniture put out for the trash. I was especially interested in a bookcase and a couple of kitchen chairs. I made plans to come pick it up later, as I didn't have the time to do it just then. Unfortunately, when I returned, someone else had already gotten to it.
Damn.
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» you stole from *charities*? ...classy...
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Mar 21, 2009 11:58 AM
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Posted by: Dixie Dawg on Mar 21, 2009 12:37 PM
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Posted by: Evelyn on Mar 21, 2009 12:43 PM
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This can't be right. There are 52 weeks in a year. If my husband and I were each discarding 56 tons of trash per year, that would mean that every Monday when we took out our trash cans, we would be hauling over 2 tons (4000 pounds) to the curb. Even if they are including other forms of trash than what I put in the trash can, this seems off by orders of magnitude. I'll believe maybe 100 pounds a week. But not a ton per person per week.
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Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Mar 21, 2009 1:07 PM
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Nobody talks about Dumpster Diving. You're gonna ruin it for the rest of us. Sshh!!
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Posted by: digitalfrenzy on Mar 21, 2009 1:13 PM
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Posted by: margwa on Mar 21, 2009 1:28 PM
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People discarding bed bug infested items should destroy them before they discard them. Slash your mattresses, mark your furniture.
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Posted by: mattryes on Mar 21, 2009 2:33 PM
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Work clothes such as dungarees (originally used for shoveling shit) and painter's pants were cheap until they became trendy.
If you enjoy Dumpster Diving, then please shut the fuck up so that the marketing profiteers don't catch wind and ruin it for everyone.
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Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Mar 21, 2009 3:29 PM
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...just say'n...
its great until it isn't...
yellow!
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perspective, people.
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Posted by: thelorax on Mar 21, 2009 5:01 PM
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I feel sorry for people that are too proud to dig through the crap (pun intended) and find the thing that saves your day from certain lameness and mediocrity. There is nothing like the feeling you get when you save something from the landfill. I'm particularly fond of the super sturdy hand crank items you find now and then. My grandmothers house is full of stuff that she swore we were going to break as children but are perfectly functioning to this day. They don't make it like they used to.
I decided to use old t-shirts cut up into little squares (well not too little) to clean myself after eliminating my bowels... I thought that if I could have used diapers for quite some time as a child that using re-usable (and recycled!) cotton fabric on my butt couldn't be any less dignified than wiping my ass with 200 year old trees. Try asking your guests to humor you on that one.
I do have a reputation for making people think about what they are doing here.
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Posted by: phindrup on Mar 21, 2009 6:32 PM
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Approximately 30 years ago a young friend, an unmarried mother, asked me to go scavenging with her. I was walking past the piles out on the footpaths for collection, pronouncing ‘junk!’ While she was like a terrier ferreting out useful bits and pieces. I relearned from the experience.
As I type this my computer desk, not a ‘make do’, but that is a closer fit to what I wanted than anything I have seen anywhere since, I picked up off the side of the road.
As I look around my office/bedroom 60 percent of what is here is scavenged.
In the main I scavenge, clean up and donate to charity shops. I would much rather see somebody getting use out of something than to see it in landfill.
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Posted by: TheLimit on Mar 21, 2009 6:44 PM
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If you aren't already a freecycle member, search on yahoo in recycling for lists to find your locals. You may do this from freecycle.org, but most of the lists are on yahoo still, and the process can be confusing if you start from freecycle. If your local list has moved, their list will say so, and if you just can't find one on yahoo, starting from freecycle.org may do the trick. This is an international project, and there are now freecycle lists operating all over the world. If there isn't one in your area, why not start one?
The Freegan link is to information on dumpster diving, so more info on this article in particular. Googling dumpster diving returns a substantial list too.
Have fun!
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 21, 2009 9:30 PM
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I thought you were a bit of a loon what with your Virus thing
But I searched what you said - thinking I would find nonsense
And I find from the Chechoslaviakia and The Canadian Press that what you were saying seems to be Completely TRUE
But there was and is a Petitition that has been signed by THOUSANDS of People from all over the World
All The Signatures Have Been Deleted
Its gone from Several Thousand to 35
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/
35 Total Signatures
I just ask Every Good American And True To Fight For Your Constitution
It Is All About FREEDOM
Not Tyranny
Love & Peace,
Tony
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Posted by: rewinn on Mar 21, 2009 11:32 PM
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So we have a silent arrangement. Management tacitly leaves this on the loading dock for about half-a-day. I like to let the street people have the first shot. They need it more than I.
Whatever's left, I bundle into my car and periodically drop off at my favorite thrift store (...retaining anything that suits me, of course, but I don't need much...).
This makes everyone happier. Management saves money, the thrift store resells the stuff to people who get a bargain.
Try to work with your building management, strike a similar deal. You'll be a hero!
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Posted by: MyLeftFoot on Mar 22, 2009 1:01 AM
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Posted by: lightwing1 on Mar 22, 2009 2:35 AM
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I have gotten alot from curbside and dumpster raids in my life - but even more from thrift stores. I am a member of a freecycle group and whatever I can't get rid of there goes to Good Will or if not there, then hazardous waste (they take things like half-used bottles of shampoo and the workers get to scrounge).
I never thought of it in terms of shameful or whatever - it just seemed practical and helped the bottom line. I wasn't even trying to be green. Of course, these days, I see the green bennie from it, but mostly it was just not to waste things - which seems horrible to me.
My other half and I are also very handy and fix everything we have whenever possible or buy replacement parts for larger appliances instead of dumping them. I drive a 17 year old car by choice (I could afford a new one), shop at Big Lots and Ross, Good Will, etc. I can afford not to do these things but it's habit and it saves money that I can then save for a house - something you can't get curbside.
It would never occur to me to look down on someone who dumpster dives - seems practical. But, I guess I didn't grow up in Disneyland, so I have different attitudes.
I hope this idea catches on in various forms. Americans do waste alot of very usable stuff.
Books go to the Public Library or Good Will. Magazines to Doctor's offices. Ink cartridges and toner to Office Depot. Hazardous waste like batteries and florescents, old glue, paint, chemicals to hazardous waste at my local waste vendor. All glass, paper, aluminium, plastics to recyclers - except for shrink wrap/saran wrap - not recyclable at this time. Peanuts to a local packaging shop that takes dirty mixes. Cardboard to recyclers. Old clothes to good will unless it's underwear/socks which go to recyclers in another town who take cloth. Old computers and all electronics to a computer recycler. Yard waste to recyclers/composters. Shoot - there is not much I don't recycle or give away. Two of us create one 5 lb. bag of garbage per week. If I had time I'd recycle kitchen scraps too but don't have time/room to compost.
Anyway, it didn't start out being a green thing for me - just a "hate to waste anything" thing that came from being poor. Now it's in vogue. Funny. How times change.
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Mar 22, 2009 2:53 AM
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The belief that limited resources will never run out is yet another crippling delusion of conservatives--on a par with the belief that Israel is righteous and DDT is good for you.
As you know, conservatives believe what they want to believe from birth to death, no matter what happens along the way. If things don't go their way, they will hire people to cook the stats for them rather than change their thinking. For me, this is one of the wonders of the age we live in.
How many times have you heard a Pub--usually without a degree in petroleum engineering--tell you there's "plenty of oil"? They have literally hired people to tell them this is so, over and over again. They will still be saying there's plenty of oil when the cars have turned to rust. In Winger World, there are always unlimited resources, with no consequences, and no strings attached.
Verily, today's Republicans are among the strangest people ever to walk the earth. No wonder they futzed things up so thoroughly.
Forgiving the Neocons. Yea, right.
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Posted by: richholland on Mar 22, 2009 4:41 AM
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(hire a democratic Senator for that)
step2 start a limited company ask subsidy from Washington.
step 3 ; hire weed addicts to find the products
pay them in food stamps and free medical marihuana.
step 4 sell your company
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Mar 22, 2009 8:47 AM
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'nuff said.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 22, 2009 7:35 PM
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I had salvaged from a Council Tip in Beckenham, Kent, England about 20 years ago
It still works - but is fucking hard work
And sure - I think I should maybe not be aerating my lawn - and instead digging it all up to plant seed potatatoes and carrots and broccoli and tomatoes and stuff
My tomato seeds germinated in about 3 days
But I reckon we will be O.K. if we complain and demand that The War Criminals are Arrested.
WE can do this thing slow and nice and relatively painless
Or we can just STAND UP AND SHOUT
Or lay down and die
These guys in Control are Stupid Tossers
Nothing to Fear except Fear itself
Well
How was the TV tonight?
We went to see a Greek Band
Tony
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 22, 2009 7:52 PM
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This Is Fucking Brilliant - its the first time I have seen the video
Tony
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Posted by: dbendo on Mar 23, 2009 2:11 AM
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refinished they went for twice as much,with the table you could almost name your price.
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Posted by: Bliss Doubt on Mar 23, 2009 12:21 PM
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A friend of mine lives in a neighborhood where they have a "parade of garage sales" one weekend every April. In spite of being frugal, I always have stuff to sell, so I participate. We always fill a big box with stuff and add a sign, "free stuff". That box is the big draw. It empties out quickly, and brings people up the driveway to look at everything else we have. We refill that box when it gets empty. When we finish on Sunday evening, whatever isn't gone goes to various charities who will come and pick up everything you have left, without picking and choosing. Compare that to the mall, where there is still tons of unsold stuff at closing time every day.
Maybe second hand is dependent on consumerism, but I'm not sure it can be written off so easily. There have always been makers and peddlers of stuff, rag pickers, and uses for things that you no longer need. Children outgrow their clothes before the clothes are worn out. Nobody can stop that. Growing up, my favorite clothes came in a big box in the mail twice a year, from wealthy cousins in Houston who were a little older than me by a couple of years. I had the best clothes in my class, but I bragged that they were hand-me-downs.
The furniture I have that belonged to my grandma is my favorite. Most of the rest came from flea markets and thrift shops. My wicker headboard was leaning against the garbage cans that were out front of a house for the next pick-up. It had nothing wrong with it whatsoever.
I do buy new shoes.
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Posted by: HoboHomo on Mar 23, 2009 12:50 PM
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But I live in a single room, off a busy main street in San Francisco. Not an inch of earth to grow any food. And, on my low income it's a scary possibility I'll eventually become homeless.
I fully support the scavanger lifestyle...which really, was a vital component of the hippie/flower children culture some years back. The idea of recycling your clothing and other material needs and pleasures is nothing new.
But my main point is this: to talk flippantly, like it's just a simple thing to grow some of your own food, as if to say, "But of course you DO own a plot of land" is to exclude the many who are w/o a piece of earth to call their own.
I also don't own a car, or have any friends who do. So it's not like I can cruise the neighborhoods at night, and pick up discarded furniture for a second life. There is poverty, and there is poverty. Your solution is a form of scavenging for those with a enough affluence to still own a piece of land, and most likely, an automobile.
Leaving the rest of us--the REAL poor--out in the cold. Literally.
I'll bet you even have the luxury of still being able to afford dental care.
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Posted by: joechicago on Mar 23, 2009 12:53 PM
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www.urbanminers.com. I am copying your article and sending to my friends and relatives that think I am nuts. Oh, and also to my friends that think this is perfectly normal behavior- to spontaneously strap things on the side of the road to the roof of one's vehicle. Cheers
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Posted by: HoboHomo on Mar 23, 2009 1:23 PM
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Don't break laws. }}
In most places, it IS illegal to extract items from garbage cans and dumpsters. That is a basic truth, and if you pretend otherwise, you are deceiving your readers.
I scavenge all the time; glad to break the law for a good cause. Such as my survival.
As a scavenger, I'm already out of the status quo loop (including our laws). Don't hand ME any list of Do's and Don't's about HOW to scavenge. Who the hell do you think you are?
Oh, I get it: you're just trying to make big bucks by selling a book. You're not a REAL scavenger, you're a phony. I doubt you've ever done an ounce of scavenging in your life...or if you do, it's a lark, something fun to pass the time, definitely NOT a matter of survival.
The only satisfaction I get from your flaky little article is this:
One day, your book on scavenging that you hope will turn you into a (non-scavenging) millionaire, will be discovered in garbage bins by REAL scavengers, to be used as kindling for their campfires. (Sooner than later, I hope.)
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Posted by: TBoyWonder on Mar 28, 2009 6:47 PM
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I have one little quibble though, dumpstering is in fact illegal.Most places you can be charged with criminal tresspass, theft (for taking stuff out of the garbage, I know, ridiculous) or both. Human history is riddled with laws ranging from the unjust to the senseless and I see no reason that the other rules stated here should not be guidance enough.
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Posted by: dragongal on Mar 30, 2009 10:36 PM
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Now I live in an apt. complex w. a whole lot of dumpsters & discovered for myself the joys of taking a "walk by" a couple of times a week. I'm uninsured- have some heavy health issues, over 60, & have to take expensive meds- I can't work any sort of reg. job & exist because I have a remarkable & loving family who helps out w.rent/ other necessities. I lost most of my belongings along the way but am currently sitting in an apt. rather beautifully furnished almost exclusively w. dumpster finds- a solid oak dresser in perfect condition w. new hardware- a computer desk and chair -- that still were boxed w. price tags (over $400!) an oriental area rug, lamps & shades, 6 bookshleves, a convection toaster oven (also brand new) a lovely set of tableware, all kinds of kitchenware,Iron & ironing board, a handmade stained glass window hanging, a solid wood round table w. chairs, file cabinets, a dressing table w. antique mirror,- have also found 3 television sets w. remotes in perfect condition- one for my bedroom, one for my grandchildren, one donated to a friend ( the thrift stores / Sal. army won't take them anymore) a computer w. brand new innards, an also- brand- new dvd/vhs player, a digital camera and the device that creates the physical pictures from it, Beautiful pottery planters ( were still wrapped in tissue & in the box when found in the dumpster) 3 rose bushes in big planters... and on and on. And on top of all this bounty I found a discarded box of someones "left behinds" that included, hand blown perfume bottles & candleholders, 3 leaded glass jewelry boxes that contained 2 14kt. gold rings (one pearl & one diamond & tourmaline)3 watches, 4 sterling silver brooches, 3 sets of gemstone & silver earrings ( amethyst, peridot, citrine)& a pearl & silver bracelet. There's always skis, exercise equipment of all sorts (treadmills incl.) and all this is just what I've personally found in the 2 yrs. I've been here. I've also made a serious effort to take whatever I can't use or know who can to the donation centers-- I make 3-4 trips a mo. It boggles the mind that if I found this stuff then what else must be out there??!!To be found by others on the days I don't take my walks! ONE NEIGHBORHOOD, folks! ONE apt. complex.I also belong to 2 local Freecycle groups, a Freegan network,Reuse, Recycle & live a better, longer, healthier life...
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