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Obama Needs to Spark a Global Green Deal to Create a Sustainable Economy
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If human civilization is to have a realistic chance of surviving global climate change, President Barack Obama and mobilized citizens will have to lead a virtual revolution in America's approach to the issue. Because the hour is so late and America's role so central, Obama must lead, and be pressed to lead, on three fronts at once. First, the United States must commit itself to serious reductions in its greenhouse gas emissions and begin achieving them without delay. This will restore US credibility on the issue, paving the way for step two: encouraging the rest of the world, especially China, to cut its emissions dramatically. The United States and China together account for 40 percent of global emissions, making them climate superpowers: if they do not cut emissions, it won't matter how much other nations reduce. Finally, Obama must urge the United States and all nations to begin preparing for the sea-level rise, water shortages and other impacts of climate change that are inevitable, with special emphasis on assisting the poor, who stand to suffer first and worst despite having done nothing to cause the problem.
It's a tall order, but America can achieve these triple imperatives if the Obama administration launches a Global Green Deal: a crash program to jump-start the transition to a global economy that is climate-friendly and climate-resilient -- that is, an economy that emits relatively few greenhouse gases and is shielded against the impacts of climate change. Done properly, a deal of this sort will green not only our societies but our wallets. A massive program of green investment will reduce greenhouse gas emissions even as it stimulates jobs, profits and innovation worldwide and lifts millions of people out of poverty and economic distress.
The stimulus package is a good start. It contains $71 billion in direct green spending and $20 billion in green tax incentives, according to an analysis by the Center for American Progress. The World Resources Institute has calculated that every $1 billion in green spending generates approximately 30,000 jobs, so the green portions of the stimulus package should create about 2 million jobs, many in the construction sector, which has been hit especially hard. Retrofitting buildings, installing solar panels and constructing wind farms require skilled and semiskilled labor and create decent-paying jobs that cannot be outsourced. Investing in climate-friendly development in poor countries, where money buys more, should yield even more jobs and economic uplift -- no small consideration, given the recent warning from the US director of national intelligence, retired Adm. Dennis Blair, that the economic downturn could become the gravest threat to international stability if it triggers a return to the "violent extremism" of the 1930s.
But even more will have to be done, at home and abroad, if we are to slash emissions quickly enough to preserve a livable planet. President Obama has promised to reduce US emissions to 1990 levels by 2020 and to 80 percent below 1990 levels by 2050. This sounds impressive compared with the Bush/Cheney years, but precisely because of Bush-era foot-dragging, the United States and the rest of the world need to achieve larger and faster emissions reductions than previously assumed. We have "a very short window of time," Rajendra Pachauri, chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said in January at a Worldwatch Institute conference. If we want to avoid such scenarios as twenty feet of sea-level rise, which would put most of the world's big cities under water, the rise in global temperatures must be limited to 2.0 to 2.4 Celsius above preindustrial levels. That means global emissions must peak by 2015 and then fall rapidly for decades, said Pachauri. In this context, he added, Obama's goal "falls short of the response needed by world leaders" in preparation for the negotiations in Copenhagen in December to produce a successor to the Kyoto treaty. Instead, Pachauri urged Obama to embrace the European Union's target: reducing emissions to 20 percent below 1990 levels by 2020, which the EU says it will achieve by increasing energy efficiency and renewable energy by 20 percent.
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Posted by: Rolomax on Mar 13, 2009 4:11 AM
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I can think of a faster way.
My idea would be to ask the Obama administration to Nationalize a few patents.
NiMH batteries. Buy the patent and license it to anyone in America for free. It'll get hybrid cars and trucks built 10 times faster. License it to other countries for a small price.
The same for Lithium batteries.
Revoke the press credentials of the mainstream media and regulate them once again like it was in the 80's and mid 90's. Ownership limits were there for a reason that was then forgotten.
Allow people to protest peacefully without getting shot, tazed, peppersprayed, etc.. Public protests are important. The people who hurt protesters knew this. Call off the dogs and let them be heard.
An economy requires participation. The current climate discourages this.
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Posted by: HANGTRAITORS on Mar 13, 2009 5:04 AM
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Posted by: bizeeb on Mar 13, 2009 7:54 AM
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Google "pew poll global warming" for the poll results if you doubt me.
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Posted by: channing on Mar 13, 2009 9:48 AM
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Now to the two points I had in mind:
First is that US-China policy is a no-brainer if we ever intend to lead the world ever again. The US has 40 year old solar-powered satellites still working up there. During the '70's oil crisis (familiar, huh?) it was briefly popularized that we had the basic technology to replace extracted energy with a permanent non-invasive and inexhaustible source called the Sun. That was 30-40 years ago! If Americans really wanted to lead, big-auto, big-energy, big-venture capital, big government would be RACING to install our energy independence just like we did rails in the 1800's, electricity at the turn of the century, phones after, highways after that. If Obama holds to the bogus line that "We're waiting to commit until China is on board" then pure and simple, Obama is in the pocket of the same "interests" that have cost us decades of progress already, not to mention wars and environmental damage.
The second part of this is that, Yes We Can create a paradigm shift in our way of life, our environment, our national security and an entirely new massive blue-collar industry that will both be permanent and produce increasing returns over time.
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Posted by: channing on Mar 13, 2009 9:49 AM
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First is Desertec
A High Tension intercontinental smart-grid connecting the planet's solar desert installations. I won't go into all the details, but I will point out it is already in an advanced planning stage in Europe, it was co-created by an American engineering firm partnering with a German one, their solid peer-reviewed calculations prove that Earth's deserts alone can permanently supply over 700 times as much energy as all humanity consumes from all other sources combined. Check out the www.trecers.net site for yourself and review some of their newest partners. No reason the US should not be doing this right now, or yesteryear for that matter.
Second is Energy Watch Groups 2009 Wind Power Report
Using the same intercontinental high tension grid as for solar deserts, major unpopulated wind corridors on Earth can ALONE supply 800 times the amount of energy as all humanity consumes today from all other sources combined. Their exhaustive research tackles the International Energy Agency, accusing them "scientifically" of deliberately warping science to please Big Extracted Energy. I won't go into all the details here either, but I will point out that this plan doubles solar desert potential for permanent green energy to over 1,500 times current consumption levels.
The third is made right here in America already called, NanoSolar
It took $100 million in private capital to build the first plant in southern California, but the technology produces solar material by-the-roll and at a current cost equivalence to coal... something not yet achieved by conventional solar technologies. The stimulus ought to include the funding for at least 3 more American production plants ASAP, you know why? The first two years of production have been pre-sold to Europe!
Have a look at these links, support their efforts any way you can. No matter whether you believe global warming is real, imagined, man-made or sun-made, doesn't matter when you consider that it is the legacy we leave our children's children in permanent non-extracted and unlimited energy that is our best bet!
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 13, 2009 11:39 AM
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But because I was a bit pissed at the time I discovered this thing - and no one was telling me to do anything - like Buy One
I did
It is completely Awesome
It didn't cost much - but it is so good - I have gone a bit mad
I reckon the next party we have - well if all the kit turns up and works - will be the most spectacular light show since we saw Pink Floyd.
And it is so incredibly cheap - for what it does. I thought it would cost 10 times as much as it does.
Even the wireless controlled smoke machine costs less than £50.
Sure the lasers and the Cloud LEDS might burn holes in our retinas - but I have spent a lot of time doing the safety research to ensure this doesn't happen (hopefully).
I want to give a blinding light show - that they will not be expecting - not blind any of our friends.
Tony
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 13, 2009 1:34 PM
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All the adverts seem to say
"Don't Smoke Cannabis or Do Any Drugs - But If You Do It's O.K. Providing You Wear a Condom"
And I am trying to work out what the message is.
Is it O.K.
To smoke cannabis providing you don't inhale cos you have got a condom in your mouth?
So far as I can tell - None of our Teenage Kids or Their Friends take the slightest interest in the adverts and are not in the slightest affected by them in their behaviour.
I do not find any discarded joints - nor any discarded condoms.
If they are actually doing it - they are extremely tidy in cleaning up their mess.
Their Mum does the washing and doesn't check the sheets.
I reckon they are all completely innocent.
It's what comes from their obsession with studying physics, maths, computing, psychology, photography and selling their Services to Americans and The Rest Of The World.
Our Kids are So Straight and "Normal" "conservative" in the traditional sense (they know religion is a load of bollocks - but seem somewhat addicted to making money - so that they can afford to go ski-ing and diving and take their friends with them)
They don't do any prescribed drugs either - they just seem happy to be themselves.
What exactly have we been doing wrong in bringing them up - they don't even smoke - well they know its banned in our home - and their nicotine addicted friends have to go outside if they need a drag.
We Love them to bits.
Tony
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Posted by: willymack on Mar 13, 2009 1:48 PM
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 13, 2009 2:26 PM
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We have Far More Success At Making Friends and Entertaining Them and Making Them Feel Good and Being Nice To Them
And Most Of All
Making Our Friends
LAUGH
It's Red Nose Day Today In The UK
We all look incredibly silly and raise Money for things like Mosquito Nets in Africa
http://www.rednoseday.com/
Red Nose Day
Tony
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 13, 2009 2:46 PM
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But It's The Thought That Counts
Tony
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 13, 2009 3:10 PM
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And She said - you can't come in
But I came in
She said NO
It is a Girls thing - Go Away
I said - but I just want to say One Sentence
She said you can't
I said - it will just take a few words
I told her how much I had given to Comic Relief
She Gave Me a Great Big Smile
Tony
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Posted by: PaulK on Mar 13, 2009 4:49 PM
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Please walk a bit in an inventor’s shoes. Talk to inventors. Invite them in for discussions. You will discover that:
–Most of us live poor. We can’t afford lab space. That’s why the phrase “two guys in a garage” is so well known.
–We don’t want to be locked out of the government grant process.
So I ask, for the good of the Obama Administration and the nation, please work with inventors. See the obstacles we face in bringing new global cooling products to market.
In particular, please create a world market for inventions which safely and inexpensively restore or enhance the Arctic Ocean's ice pack. Create a market for cheap, safe, effective transit inventions, and for any other field where a "free market" of inventions is a figment of a Republican's imagination. Create a market for any innovation that produces electricity for 2 cents per kwh. Create a market for any innovation that delivers far cheaper building heat. Create a market for any innovation that delivers $2.00/gallon biodiesel with high biological carbon dioxide uptake and low carbon dioxide expenses.
Create a market for improvements where we inventors don't have to come up with half a million dollars cash (ha ha ha not funny just very real) for the government to chip in its half a million. What if every good job in America that paid two million dollars a decade had an entry fee of half a million dollars cash and no loans were available? Oh, I forgot, it's called medical school. Poor people need not apply.
If the treaty is worldwide, and if global warming inventors are protected worldwide, the inventors will come out of the woodwork. Decades-long secrecy will no longer be the prolific inventor's only friend in the world.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 13, 2009 5:04 PM
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When my Daughter went to School Today - She Was Dressed Like a Manic Female Cop
Do Ordinary American's Do Stuff Like This To Raise Money For Charity?
Ain't She Georgeous
http://www.rednoseday.com/do_something
Tony
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 13, 2009 6:05 PM
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Tony
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Posted by: hoorah on Mar 13, 2009 8:27 PM
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I've recently heard talk of a mileage tax. Supposedly a device will be installed on cars that will keep track of the vehicle miles driven. Thanks for another bill to look forward to! I forgot about the increased "surveillance" that is so necessary for each individual life. Except for those who write and pass the laws of course. Currently we've got the gas tax, automotive property tax, automotive sales tax, sales taxes on car replacement parts and automotive services and automotive insurance. Did I leave out anything in that arena? Is there there an automotive insurance tax in the works?
If some people have their way. I think there will be less people driving in the future. I see the possibility of gas powered cars being outlawed. Pollution will be the excuse for that one. If you can't afford to drive whatever type of government approved car the future may soon bring. The day may come when you'll either have to use public transportation, walk or ride a bicycle. About the water shortages. It's possible that there's millions of barrels of water stored somewhere in every country. There's vast amounts of warehouses of food, grains and vegetable seeds stored around the world I hear.
And how are we to cook and keep warm with all of the new "global warming/carbon laws" being planned for implementation? You probably won't be able to burn gas, coal, wood or kerosene. As far as solar panels are concerned. I'm sure that many small businesses and individual homes would be condemned since not everyone can afford the solar energy set up. I don't mean to think or to speak lightly of pollution. From what I've said listed above. The anti-pollution gods, if they have their way will push many of us into irrecoverable destitution. You never hear these people mention one word about the toxins in the food, water and prescription medications. I guess you can't kiss a "gift horse" in the mouth.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 13, 2009 9:33 PM
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I was around 21 years old - and I completely fell in love with her and Neil Young..
Neil Young at the time wouldn't Play in England
So I thought Fuck If He won't come over here - I will get a passport and a ticket and fly to New York
I had a pretty good job at the time and was working loads of overtime
So I was about to spend everything I had to Fly to New York by myself to see Neil Young
But it wouldn't be right to see Neil Young by myself - and my girlfriend was disappeared from me - and Neil Young announced that he was going to play in England
And 24 and there's so much more
Ultimate Love Song
Tony
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 13, 2009 10:47 PM
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BWCF - THE BLAIR WAR CRIMES FOUNDATION
To The President of The United Nations General Assembly, H.E. Father Miguel d’Escoto Brockmann, and The Attorney General of the United Kingdom, and their successors in office.
RE ANTHONY CHARLES LYNTON BLAIR
We, the citizens of the United Kingdom and other countries listed, wish to uphold The United Nations Charter, The 1998 Rome Statute of The International Criminal Court, The Hague and Geneva Conventions and the Rule of International Law, especially in respect of:-
1: 1949 Geneva Convention IV: Article 146
The High Contracting Parties undertake to enact any legislation necessary to provide effective penal sanctions for persons committing, or ordering to be committed, any of the grave breaches of the present Convention.
2: 1907 Hague Convention IV: Article 3
A belligerent party which violates the provisions of the said regulations shall, if the case demands, be liable to pay compensation. It shall be responsible for all the acts committed by persons forming part of its armed forces.
We therefore call on you to indict Anthony Charles Lynton Blair in his capacity as recent Prime Minister of the UK, so long as he is able to answer for his actions and however long it takes, in respect of our sample complaints relating to the 2003 Iraq War waged by the UK as ally to the United States of America.
We are concerned that without justice and respect for the rule of law, the future for us and our progeny in a lawless world is bleak, as revealed by recent US declarations about the use of torture and the events of December 2008 in Gaza show.
The following are our sample complaints relating to the Iraq War 2003-2009:
1: Deceit and conspiracy for war, and providing false news to incite passions for war, causing in the order of one million deaths, 4 million refugees, countless maimings and traumas.
2: Employing radioactive ammunition causing long-term destruction of the planetary habitat.
3: Causing the breakdown of civil administration, with consequent lawlessness, especially looting, kidnapping, and violence, and consequent breakdown of womens’ rights, of religious freedom, and child and adult education.
4: Failing to maintain the medical needs of the populace.
5: Despoliation of the cultural heritage of the country.
6: Supporting an ally that employs ‘waterboarding’ and other tortures.
7: Seizing the assets of Iraq.
8: Using inhumane restraints on prisoners, including dogs, hoods, and cable ties.
9: Using Aggressive Patrolling indiscriminately, traumatising women and children and wrecking homes and property.
10: Marking bodies of prisoners with numbers, writing, faeces and other degrading treatment.
11: The use of cluster bombs and other indiscriminate weapons including white phosphorous on “shake and bake” missions.
12: Supporting indiscriminate rocket attacks from F16 fighter planes on women and children in Fallujah in Nov 2004
13: Supporting the shooting up of ambulances and medical personnel in Fallujah in Nov 2004
14: Supporting the expulsion of the entire population of Fallujah save for young men of military age, for a reprisal attack on that city in Nov 2004.
Copy to the Secretary General of The United Nations, Ban Ki-moon
Issued by secretaries to Foundation: David Halpin, MB, FRCS and Nicholas Wood MA, RIBA, FRGS
PO BOX 64656 NW3 9NG (UK)
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Posted by: waves16 on Mar 14, 2009 11:20 AM
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An environmentalist recently proposed a strategy that would expand environmental markets on a continuous basis (hence preserve and continue creating green jobs). It is based on the same forces that gave a huge boost renewable energy last summer. Details are available at Waves of the Future.
Now that we have funds to kick start environmental initiatives, let's not make the same mistake we have in the last three decades.
Tags: carbon emission solutions, sustainable development strategies
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sand appears
in my mind
with a rumbling
and delicate
look; you call
me near a
sylvan hedge,
and everything
shines like a
taciturn wind.
Francesco Sinibaldi
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Posted by: Rolomax on Mar 13, 2009 4:11 AM
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I can think of a faster way.
My idea would be to ask the Obama administration to Nationalize a few patents.
NiMH batteries. Buy the patent and license it to anyone in America for free. It'll get hybrid cars and trucks built 10 times faster. License it to other countries for a small price.
The same for Lithium batteries.
Revoke the press credentials of the mainstream media and regulate them once again like it was in the 80's and mid 90's. Ownership limits were there for a reason that was then forgotten.
Allow people to protest peacefully without getting shot, tazed, peppersprayed, etc.. Public protests are important. The people who hurt protesters knew this. Call off the dogs and let them be heard.
An economy requires participation. The current climate discourages this.
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Posted by: HANGTRAITORS on Mar 13, 2009 5:04 AM
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Posted by: bizeeb on Mar 13, 2009 7:54 AM
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Google "pew poll global warming" for the poll results if you doubt me.
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Posted by: channing on Mar 13, 2009 9:48 AM
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Now to the two points I had in mind:
First is that US-China policy is a no-brainer if we ever intend to lead the world ever again. The US has 40 year old solar-powered satellites still working up there. During the '70's oil crisis (familiar, huh?) it was briefly popularized that we had the basic technology to replace extracted energy with a permanent non-invasive and inexhaustible source called the Sun. That was 30-40 years ago! If Americans really wanted to lead, big-auto, big-energy, big-venture capital, big government would be RACING to install our energy independence just like we did rails in the 1800's, electricity at the turn of the century, phones after, highways after that. If Obama holds to the bogus line that "We're waiting to commit until China is on board" then pure and simple, Obama is in the pocket of the same "interests" that have cost us decades of progress already, not to mention wars and environmental damage.
The second part of this is that, Yes We Can create a paradigm shift in our way of life, our environment, our national security and an entirely new massive blue-collar industry that will both be permanent and produce increasing returns over time.
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Posted by: channing on Mar 13, 2009 9:49 AM
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First is Desertec
A High Tension intercontinental smart-grid connecting the planet's solar desert installations. I won't go into all the details, but I will point out it is already in an advanced planning stage in Europe, it was co-created by an American engineering firm partnering with a German one, their solid peer-reviewed calculations prove that Earth's deserts alone can permanently supply over 700 times as much energy as all humanity consumes from all other sources combined. Check out the www.trecers.net site for yourself and review some of their newest partners. No reason the US should not be doing this right now, or yesteryear for that matter.
Second is Energy Watch Groups 2009 Wind Power Report
Using the same intercontinental high tension grid as for solar deserts, major unpopulated wind corridors on Earth can ALONE supply 800 times the amount of energy as all humanity consumes today from all other sources combined. Their exhaustive research tackles the International Energy Agency, accusing them "scientifically" of deliberately warping science to please Big Extracted Energy. I won't go into all the details here either, but I will point out that this plan doubles solar desert potential for permanent green energy to over 1,500 times current consumption levels.
The third is made right here in America already called, NanoSolar
It took $100 million in private capital to build the first plant in southern California, but the technology produces solar material by-the-roll and at a current cost equivalence to coal... something not yet achieved by conventional solar technologies. The stimulus ought to include the funding for at least 3 more American production plants ASAP, you know why? The first two years of production have been pre-sold to Europe!
Have a look at these links, support their efforts any way you can. No matter whether you believe global warming is real, imagined, man-made or sun-made, doesn't matter when you consider that it is the legacy we leave our children's children in permanent non-extracted and unlimited energy that is our best bet!
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 13, 2009 11:39 AM
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But because I was a bit pissed at the time I discovered this thing - and no one was telling me to do anything - like Buy One
I did
It is completely Awesome
It didn't cost much - but it is so good - I have gone a bit mad
I reckon the next party we have - well if all the kit turns up and works - will be the most spectacular light show since we saw Pink Floyd.
And it is so incredibly cheap - for what it does. I thought it would cost 10 times as much as it does.
Even the wireless controlled smoke machine costs less than £50.
Sure the lasers and the Cloud LEDS might burn holes in our retinas - but I have spent a lot of time doing the safety research to ensure this doesn't happen (hopefully).
I want to give a blinding light show - that they will not be expecting - not blind any of our friends.
Tony
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All the adverts seem to say
"Don't Smoke Cannabis or Do Any Drugs - But If You Do It's O.K. Providing You Wear a Condom"
And I am trying to work out what the message is.
Is it O.K.
To smoke cannabis providing you don't inhale cos you have got a condom in your mouth?
So far as I can tell - None of our Teenage Kids or Their Friends take the slightest interest in the adverts and are not in the slightest affected by them in their behaviour.
I do not find any discarded joints - nor any discarded condoms.
If they are actually doing it - they are extremely tidy in cleaning up their mess.
Their Mum does the washing and doesn't check the sheets.
I reckon they are all completely innocent.
It's what comes from their obsession with studying physics, maths, computing, psychology, photography and selling their Services to Americans and The Rest Of The World.
Our Kids are So Straight and "Normal" "conservative" in the traditional sense (they know religion is a load of bollocks - but seem somewhat addicted to making money - so that they can afford to go ski-ing and diving and take their friends with them)
They don't do any prescribed drugs either - they just seem happy to be themselves.
What exactly have we been doing wrong in bringing them up - they don't even smoke - well they know its banned in our home - and their nicotine addicted friends have to go outside if they need a drag.
We Love them to bits.
Tony
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We have Far More Success At Making Friends and Entertaining Them and Making Them Feel Good and Being Nice To Them
And Most Of All
Making Our Friends
LAUGH
It's Red Nose Day Today In The UK
We all look incredibly silly and raise Money for things like Mosquito Nets in Africa
http://www.rednoseday.com/
Red Nose Day
Tony
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But It's The Thought That Counts
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And She said - you can't come in
But I came in
She said NO
It is a Girls thing - Go Away
I said - but I just want to say One Sentence
She said you can't
I said - it will just take a few words
I told her how much I had given to Comic Relief
She Gave Me a Great Big Smile
Tony
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Please walk a bit in an inventor’s shoes. Talk to inventors. Invite them in for discussions. You will discover that:
–Most of us live poor. We can’t afford lab space. That’s why the phrase “two guys in a garage” is so well known.
–We don’t want to be locked out of the government grant process.
So I ask, for the good of the Obama Administration and the nation, please work with inventors. See the obstacles we face in bringing new global cooling products to market.
In particular, please create a world market for inventions which safely and inexpensively restore or enhance the Arctic Ocean's ice pack. Create a market for cheap, safe, effective transit inventions, and for any other field where a "free market" of inventions is a figment of a Republican's imagination. Create a market for any innovation that produces electricity for 2 cents per kwh. Create a market for any innovation that delivers far cheaper building heat. Create a market for any innovation that delivers $2.00/gallon biodiesel with high biological carbon dioxide uptake and low carbon dioxide expenses.
Create a market for improvements where we inventors don't have to come up with half a million dollars cash (ha ha ha not funny just very real) for the government to chip in its half a million. What if every good job in America that paid two million dollars a decade had an entry fee of half a million dollars cash and no loans were available? Oh, I forgot, it's called medical school. Poor people need not apply.
If the treaty is worldwide, and if global warming inventors are protected worldwide, the inventors will come out of the woodwork. Decades-long secrecy will no longer be the prolific inventor's only friend in the world.
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When my Daughter went to School Today - She Was Dressed Like a Manic Female Cop
Do Ordinary American's Do Stuff Like This To Raise Money For Charity?
Ain't She Georgeous
http://www.rednoseday.com/do_something
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I've recently heard talk of a mileage tax. Supposedly a device will be installed on cars that will keep track of the vehicle miles driven. Thanks for another bill to look forward to! I forgot about the increased "surveillance" that is so necessary for each individual life. Except for those who write and pass the laws of course. Currently we've got the gas tax, automotive property tax, automotive sales tax, sales taxes on car replacement parts and automotive services and automotive insurance. Did I leave out anything in that arena? Is there there an automotive insurance tax in the works?
If some people have their way. I think there will be less people driving in the future. I see the possibility of gas powered cars being outlawed. Pollution will be the excuse for that one. If you can't afford to drive whatever type of government approved car the future may soon bring. The day may come when you'll either have to use public transportation, walk or ride a bicycle. About the water shortages. It's possible that there's millions of barrels of water stored somewhere in every country. There's vast amounts of warehouses of food, grains and vegetable seeds stored around the world I hear.
And how are we to cook and keep warm with all of the new "global warming/carbon laws" being planned for implementation? You probably won't be able to burn gas, coal, wood or kerosene. As far as solar panels are concerned. I'm sure that many small businesses and individual homes would be condemned since not everyone can afford the solar energy set up. I don't mean to think or to speak lightly of pollution. From what I've said listed above. The anti-pollution gods, if they have their way will push many of us into irrecoverable destitution. You never hear these people mention one word about the toxins in the food, water and prescription medications. I guess you can't kiss a "gift horse" in the mouth.
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I was around 21 years old - and I completely fell in love with her and Neil Young..
Neil Young at the time wouldn't Play in England
So I thought Fuck If He won't come over here - I will get a passport and a ticket and fly to New York
I had a pretty good job at the time and was working loads of overtime
So I was about to spend everything I had to Fly to New York by myself to see Neil Young
But it wouldn't be right to see Neil Young by myself - and my girlfriend was disappeared from me - and Neil Young announced that he was going to play in England
And 24 and there's so much more
Ultimate Love Song
Tony
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BWCF - THE BLAIR WAR CRIMES FOUNDATION
To The President of The United Nations General Assembly, H.E. Father Miguel d’Escoto Brockmann, and The Attorney General of the United Kingdom, and their successors in office.
RE ANTHONY CHARLES LYNTON BLAIR
We, the citizens of the United Kingdom and other countries listed, wish to uphold The United Nations Charter, The 1998 Rome Statute of The International Criminal Court, The Hague and Geneva Conventions and the Rule of International Law, especially in respect of:-
1: 1949 Geneva Convention IV: Article 146
The High Contracting Parties undertake to enact any legislation necessary to provide effective penal sanctions for persons committing, or ordering to be committed, any of the grave breaches of the present Convention.
2: 1907 Hague Convention IV: Article 3
A belligerent party which violates the provisions of the said regulations shall, if the case demands, be liable to pay compensation. It shall be responsible for all the acts committed by persons forming part of its armed forces.
We therefore call on you to indict Anthony Charles Lynton Blair in his capacity as recent Prime Minister of the UK, so long as he is able to answer for his actions and however long it takes, in respect of our sample complaints relating to the 2003 Iraq War waged by the UK as ally to the United States of America.
We are concerned that without justice and respect for the rule of law, the future for us and our progeny in a lawless world is bleak, as revealed by recent US declarations about the use of torture and the events of December 2008 in Gaza show.
The following are our sample complaints relating to the Iraq War 2003-2009:
1: Deceit and conspiracy for war, and providing false news to incite passions for war, causing in the order of one million deaths, 4 million refugees, countless maimings and traumas.
2: Employing radioactive ammunition causing long-term destruction of the planetary habitat.
3: Causing the breakdown of civil administration, with consequent lawlessness, especially looting, kidnapping, and violence, and consequent breakdown of womens’ rights, of religious freedom, and child and adult education.
4: Failing to maintain the medical needs of the populace.
5: Despoliation of the cultural heritage of the country.
6: Supporting an ally that employs ‘waterboarding’ and other tortures.
7: Seizing the assets of Iraq.
8: Using inhumane restraints on prisoners, including dogs, hoods, and cable ties.
9: Using Aggressive Patrolling indiscriminately, traumatising women and children and wrecking homes and property.
10: Marking bodies of prisoners with numbers, writing, faeces and other degrading treatment.
11: The use of cluster bombs and other indiscriminate weapons including white phosphorous on “shake and bake” missions.
12: Supporting indiscriminate rocket attacks from F16 fighter planes on women and children in Fallujah in Nov 2004
13: Supporting the shooting up of ambulances and medical personnel in Fallujah in Nov 2004
14: Supporting the expulsion of the entire population of Fallujah save for young men of military age, for a reprisal attack on that city in Nov 2004.
Copy to the Secretary General of The United Nations, Ban Ki-moon
Issued by secretaries to Foundation: David Halpin, MB, FRCS and Nicholas Wood MA, RIBA, FRGS
PO BOX 64656 NW3 9NG (UK)
Email: blairfoundation@yahoo.co.uk
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2275 Total Signatures
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An environmentalist recently proposed a strategy that would expand environmental markets on a continuous basis (hence preserve and continue creating green jobs). It is based on the same forces that gave a huge boost renewable energy last summer. Details are available at Waves of the Future.
Now that we have funds to kick start environmental initiatives, let's not make the same mistake we have in the last three decades.
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sand appears
in my mind
with a rumbling
and delicate
look; you call
me near a
sylvan hedge,
and everything
shines like a
taciturn wind.
Francesco Sinibaldi
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