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9 Steps to Peace for Obama in the New Year
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The following is a memo to Barack Obama from Deepak Chopra
You have been elected by the first anti-war constituency since 1952, when Dwight D. Eisenhower was elected after promising to end the Korean War. But ending a war isn't the same as bringing peace. America has been on a war footing since the day after Pearl Harbor, 67 years ago. We spend more on our military than the next 16 countries combined. If you have a vision of change that goes to the heart of this country's deep problems, ending our dependence on war is far more important than ending our dependency on foreign oil.
The most immediate changes are economic. Unless it can make as much money as war, peace doesn't stand a chance. Since aerospace and military technologies remain the United States' most destructive export, fostering wars around the world, what steps can we take to reverse that trend and build a peace-based economy?
1. Scale out arms dealing and make it illegal by the year 2020.
2. Write into every defense contract a requirement for a peacetime project.
3. Subsidize conversion of military companies to peaceful uses with tax incentives and direct funding.
4. Convert military bases to housing for the poor.
5. Phase out all foreign military bases.
6. Require military personnel to devote part of their time to rebuilding infrastructure.
7. Call a moratorium on future weapons technologies.
8. Reduce armaments like destroyers and submarines that have no use against terrorism and were intended to defend against a superpower enemy that no longer exists.
9. Fully fund social services and take the balance out of the defense and homeland security budgets.
These are just the beginning. We don't lack creativity in coping with change. Without a conversion of our present war economy to a peace economy, the high profits of the military-industrial complex ensures that it will never end.
Do these nine steps seem unrealistic or fanciful? In various ways, other countries have adopted similar measures. The former Soviet army is occupied with farming and other peaceful work, for example. But comparisons are rather pointless, since only the United States is burdened with such a massive reliance on defense spending. Ultimately, empire follows the dollar. As a society, we want peace, and we want to be seen as a nation that promotes peace. For either ideal to come true, you as president must back up your vision of change with economic reality. So far, that hasn't happened under any of your predecessors. All hopes are pinned on you.
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Posted by: AlexLawyer on Jan 1, 2009 12:16 AM
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Posted by: BillSamuel on Jan 1, 2009 3:56 AM
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All the polls showed an anti-war majority, but they only polled about Iraq. They did not go to the broader issues.
Obama's assumption all along, clear in his original Iraq speech in 2002, is that America's way of war and domination is right; it's just Iraq which is wrong. His national security team are all hawks, mostly even on Iraq. His Chief of Staff is a very extreme hawk, a longtime supporter of state terrorism whose father was a terrorist and who was named after a terrorist. Obama ran on a platform of a larger military budget and larger military forces. He spent most of his 2002 speech assuring folks he was not for peace, and everything since then has reaffirmed that.
The proposals are great, but the corporatist political parties and mainstream media fail to even allow these issues to be raised. Obama seems no more likely than Bush to follow any of these proposals. We must redouble our efforts to raise the critical issues and get the people to rise up nonviolently against the perpetual warfare state.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Jan 1, 2009 5:19 AM
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No, if it weren't for oil, the war machines wouldn't be propped up so easy in the first place.
On his first solution, 2020 is just nothing but another procrastination idea.
And if he actually took a look at the mess in India and Pakistan in a non-biased manner, he'd see that those so-called "peace talks" are nothing but BULLSHIT talks. "Peace talks" between those two have been going on for years and yet nothing but more terrorist attacks conveniently ignored by the RACIST western media. Even the recent coverage of the Mumbai attacks were RACIST in nature since only folks from US, EU, and Israel were given "special" importance while the media said FUCK YOU indirectly to the rest. Holding the terrorists and their enablers and perpetrators such as the corrupt leadership in US and EU in addition to the dictators in the Arab world enabling and empowering all this is what needs to be done. Otherwise, forget about peace.
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Posted by: polreport@live.com on Jan 1, 2009 5:20 AM
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So, their needs to be a great push for Defence quality and accountability at the same time that there is a push for Peace Markets.
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jan 1, 2009 5:22 AM
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I have to give the Pak-Man his props, though, for sticking his neck out. Much of his audience are middle-class Boomers who look to him primarily to maximize their own personal health, wealth, and happiness. Where foreign policy and economics are concerned, Reagan is still their guru of choice. Stepping outside the Boomers' mental boundaries with respect to private/public could be bad for business.
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Posted by: RTTEch82 on Jan 1, 2009 6:51 AM
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Posted by: drricklippin on Jan 1, 2009 6:55 AM
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Didn't our new President-to-be write a book called The Audacity of Hope? Isn't it time to take the audacious leap toward hope with him? After all,the election of Obama alone, is cause for a renewed "run at the triumph of human hope?"
But I believe the best chance for transformation from fear to hope will come about through healthy education of our global youth. I especially like the work of David Boulton
The opposite of healthy global education of our youth is the mind poison of fundamentalist organized religions(note plural please)which sustains the intrapsychic fear and distrust of others necessary for the maintenance of the profit generating, warmongering, military-industrial complexes, not only in the US, but around the globe.
Dr. Rick Lippin
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Posted by: Lauren on Jan 1, 2009 8:51 AM
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Posted by: foreverhope on Jan 1, 2009 9:27 AM
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What makes WTPL different from the two politcal parties we have right now? You think we are special here cause we read more? So we are elitist? lol....
Personally I'm not fond of new political perties. Our democracy is imperfect and fragile but I like it. Why not get involved and change the two parties we already have, make them work instead of throwing them away? The democratic party is stronger and better than it has been in decades, I am happy there. The dems needed a good shaking up and got it. I'm not only happy, I'm VERY HAPPY!
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jan 1, 2009 7:44 AM
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Posted by: foreverhope on Jan 1, 2009 8:16 AM
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Happy New Year boys and girls and especially Happy New Year to Alternet!
It's been one hell of an interesting year. Did anyone even imagine that we would be here talking about PRESIDENT OBAMA this time last year? Nope, but here we are and it is only going to get more interesting, interesting in a good way not a bad way.
The naysayers thought for sure Obama couldn't win, but YIPPEEEE, he did and in no small measure. Millions of new voters infusing new blood into the democratic party from the ground up can only be good for our fragile democracy. Now cynics are saying he won't make the change he promised? You were very wrong before and even more wrong now. These are exciting times and I am glad to be here to witness it.
Toni Morrison, the Nobel and Pulitzer prize winning author endorsed Obama. Her letter is brillant and reads in part:
"Wisdom is a gift; you can't train for it, inherit it, learn it in a class, or earn it in the workplace--that access can foster the acquisition of knowledge, but not wisdom. When, I wondered, was the last time this country was guided by such a leader? Someone whose moral center was un-embargoed? Someone with courage instead of mere ambition? Someone who truly thinks of his country's citizens as "we," not "they"? Someone who understands what it will take to help America realize the virtues it fancies about itself, what it desperately needs to become in the world?"
Yes we can.
Peace Out and God bless everyone!
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» falderal? Am I not entitled to my opinion?
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Posted by: Outspokengrandmother on Jan 1, 2009 10:13 AM
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Posted by: sirios on Jan 1, 2009 10:17 AM
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Posted by: Ghoulman on Jan 1, 2009 10:18 AM
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Put down the bong. Get a grip. Buy a clue.
I love the first bit in this article...
"1. Scale out arms dealing and make it illegal by the year 2020."
Yea. Sure. That will happen. This is the United States we are talking about, right???
Listen Alternet, I don't come here to read FICTION. Sheesh.
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Posted by: John Nicol on Jan 1, 2009 11:19 AM
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There is a bill before the House to establish a United States Department of Peace and a Cabinet-level Secretary of Peace. Its purpose would be to study peace and teach and implement the skills of peace throughout our society and the world. Without these skills, we will revert to what we know in the next crisis.
Contact your people in Congress to support this bill, and explain the concept to them as you do so. Most of them don't get it.
While we're about it, we should return the Department of Defense to its original name, the Department of War. What is defensive about a Department which operates 761 military bases around the world? Let's get out of denial and call it what it is.
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Posted by: vasumurti on Jan 1, 2009 12:05 PM
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The fact that predators exist in the wild does not imply man must imitate them. Cannibalism and rape also occur in nature. Robert Louis Stevenson, in his book In the South Seas, noted that there was little difference between the "civilized" Europeans and the "savages" of the Cannibal Islands:
"We consume the carcasses of creatures with like appetites, passions, and organs as our own. We feed on babes, though not our own, and fill the slaughterhouses daily with screams of pain and fear."
Studies indicate flesh-eaters have less endurance than do vegetarians, while vegetarians have two to three times greater stamina and recover five times more quickly from exhaustion. Most kinds of cancer, as well as heart disease, osteoporosis, kidney disease, diabetes, multiple sclerosis, hemorrhoids, diverticulosis, arthritis, obesity, gallstones and gallbladder disease are all preventable and treatable on a vegetarian diet.
The ill effects of alcohol and nicotine are well-documented. The FBI reports that 60 to 75 percent of all violent crime is alcohol-related. Might there be a similar relationship between meat-eating and violent behavior?
In a letter to a friend on the subject of vegetarianism, Albert Einstein wrote, "Besides agreeing with your aims for aesthetic and moral reasons, it is my view that a vegetarian manner of living by its purely physical effect on the human temperament would most beneficially influence the lot of mankind."
U Nu, the former Prime Minister of Burma, made a similar observation: "World peace, or any other kind of peace, depends greatly on the attitude of the mind. Vegetarianism can bring about the right mental attitude for peace...it holds forth a better way of life, which, if practiced universally, can lead to a better, more just, and more peaceful community of nations."
Thomas Tryon (1634-1703) warned the first Quaker settlers of Pennsylvania that their "holy experiment" in peaceful living would fail unless they extended their Christian precepts of nonviolence to the animal kingdom. "Does not bounteous Mother Earth furnish us with all sorts of food necessary for life?" he asked. "Though you will not fight with and kill those of your own species, yet I must be bold to tell you, that these lesser violences (as you call them) do proceed from the same root of wrath and bitterness as the greater do."
Reverend Basil Wrighton, the chairman of the Catholic Study Circle for Animal Welfare in London, wrote in a 1965 article entitled, "The Golden Age Must Return: A Catholic's Views on Vegetarianism," that a vegetarian diet is not only consistent with, but actually required by the tenets of Christianity. He concluded that the killing of animals for food not only violates religious tenets, but brutalizes humans to the point where violence and warfare against other humans becomes inevitable.
"Who loves this terrible thing called war?" asked Isadora Duncan. "Probably the meat-eaters, having killed, feel the need to kill...The butcher with his bloody apron incites bloodshed, murder. Why not? From cutting the throat of a young calf to cutting the throats of our brothers and sisters is but a step. While we ourselves are living graves of murdered animals, how can we expect any ideal conditions on the earth?"
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Posted by: vasumurti on Jan 1, 2009 12:07 PM
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The way we treat animals IS indicative of the way we treat our fellow humans. One Soviet study, published in Ogonyok, found that over 87% of a group of violent criminals has, as children, burned, hanged, or stabbed domestic animals. In our own country, a major study by Dr. Stephen Kellert of Yale University found that children who abuse animals have a much higher likelihood of becoming violent criminals.
A 1997 study by the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (MSPCA) reported that children convicted of animal abuse are five times more likely to commit violence against other humans than are their peers, and four times more likely to be involved in acts against property.
Meat-eating contributes to the fear in the world by putting us in a position in which there is not enough to go around. But that's not all. Meat-eaters ingest residues of the animal's biochemical response to the horrors of the slaughterhouse. Programmed to fight or flee when in danger for their lives, the animals react to the slaughterhouse in sheer terror. Powerful biochemical agents are secreted that pump through their bloodstreams and onto their flesh, energizing them to fight or flee for their lives.
Like screaming air rain sirens, these chemical agents produce instinctual panic. Today's slaughterhouses virtually guarantee that the animals will die in terror.
The Maoris would eat the flesh of a slaughtered enemy in order to possess the enemy's courage and strength. The people of the lower Nubia, likewise, would eat the fox, believing that by so doing, they would be possessed of his cunning.
In upper Egypt, the heart of the hoopoe bird was eaten in order to acquire the ability to become a clever scribe. The bird would be caught and its heart would be torn out and eaten while it was still alive. On the other hand, certain Native American tribes would not eat the flesh of an animal who died in fear, because they did not want to take into themselves the terror of such an animal.
When we eat animals who have died violent deaths we literally eat their fear. We take in biochemical agents designed by nature to tell an animal that its life is in the gravest danger, and it must either fight or flee for its life. And then, in our wars and our daily lives, we give expression to the panic in which the animals we have eaten died.
"Truly man is the king of beasts, for his brutality exceeds them," said Leonardo da Vinci. "We live by the death of others. We are burial places! I have since an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men will look upon the murder of animals as they look upon the murder of man."
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Posted by: Shakti on Jan 1, 2009 2:14 PM
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Regarding Obama's choices right now and the obvious -- some say laughable -- idealism of Chopra's suggestions, it is interesting that we become a war-based economy during the Great Depression, as we geared up for WWII. Maybe we can do things differently this time, as Gore and others have suggested, becoming a green-based economy as we gear up to save our environment (that is, preserve an environment in which humans can live). Shifting from a war-based economy to a green-economy in response to the very real emergencies we are facing is not that far-fetched. As water and food shortages, extreme weather events, and other global warming disasters combine with peak oil, we will have to come up with a pretty impressive response. This is what will finally get us off our weapons/oil addiction and help us shift from an industrial age economy to a ecological age economy. Necessity is the mother of invention.
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Posted by: tebibyte on Jan 1, 2009 3:39 PM
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P.S. Prevent the abuse of GNR technologies.
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Posted by: tednunn on Jan 1, 2009 3:42 PM
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Posted by: using on Jan 1, 2009 4:55 PM
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I believe that it will be much easier to alter how a group thinks and ultimately how they behave by changing the economic vision and conditions in which that group must survive.
THank you Deepak Chapra for your clear vision.
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Posted by: altoid on Jan 1, 2009 7:28 PM
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Scale out arms dealing and make it illegal by the year 2020.
This doesn't seem to be totally outside the realm of possibility as far as our own country is concerned. I was very frustrated by the idea that the Pakistanis and Indians could begin fighting with weapons we sold both of them. Sure, they would have armed themselves someway, but in the event a conflict did break out, that doesn't expunge our moral culpability.
Convert military bases to housing for the poor.
This is fine as long as they are not essential. Too much politics goes into which bases stay open and which ones are closed. I have no doubt that we could close some military bases, and using that oft unused property for public housing is fine with me, as long as it is dormant. If it was donated by the local municipality, they should have first dibs to do something with it. My concern, is that Mrs. Chopra seems to be speaking of ALL bases.
Call a moratorium on future weapons technologies.
Absolute idiocy. If we don't develop the next strategically advantageous weapon, someone else will. It has been shown (and will continue to be) that one cannot contain technology. Just ask China, they are trying mightily to control the flow of cyberspace information right now and aren't succeeding very well. They wouldn't be succeeding at all, if it weren't for American companies' culpability in the effort to make money. In any case, if we hadn't developed the nuclear weapon first, it would have increased the likelihood that our enemies (that don't always share Mrs. Chopra's idealism) would have developed it first, and we could have been the recipient.
Fully fund social services and take the balance out of the defense and homeland security budgets.
We do spend to much on defense. There is little doubt about this, as we have a military budget larger than all others combined. We also need reinvestment in social services, I wouldn't argue that point either. However, one would need to be very careful about what is cut and how much. I favor smart reduced spending versus the current bloated model, but such a drastic cut would probably come back to bite us.
One may ask why I chose to comment so much on an article by someone that I totally perceive to be an uncredible and blatantly callow author. I do this because it was prominently highlighted on two websites that I read daily and which I very much like. This kind of naivete cannot be tolerated by anyone, especially our party, because of the long-term damage that would be done to our overall strategic goals. While our current military structure needs a serious over hall, I would favor the current model over anything Mrs. Chopra suggests. We need not fall back to the time when we had no standing/ready army. I think that discussion/decision by our founders has been vindicated through the prism of history.
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Posted by: MeersWorld on Jan 1, 2009 7:28 PM
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Posted by: Ripcord on Jan 1, 2009 9:42 PM
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I really like this idea.
Step 1:
Return control of our National Guard to the States.
They had the mission of emergency support: fighting fires, rebuilding roads, heavy civil engineering, etc.
But Bush moved operational control of the state's Guards to the federal government and sent them to Iraq.
Step 2:
Make peacekeeping training the highest priority.
Step 3:
Have professional military personnel assigned part-time work which deals with the destructive evil of armed conflict; like make service people scrub the blood off the floors in emergency rooms in the Gaza Strip or full military funerals for every collateral civilian killed by our bombs or rebuild every building that is destroyed by a tank or dig water wells in Africa.
Step 4:
Change the curriculum at our Military War colleges and rename them with names like, "The Naval Peace College" or "East Point."
Unfortunately, there'd be plenty of resistance from the civilian for-profit sector. Not only from arms manufacturers, but also little workers who try to get paid for cleaning ER floors.
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Posted by: DCostello2 on Jan 2, 2009 10:08 AM
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Posted by: leafsong1 on Jan 2, 2009 4:39 PM
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1) Get the troops home. Immediately, unconditionally, without apology or explanation.
2) HANG THE WAR CRIMINALS. We have at least a million of them in this country and they should all die.
3) This should be relatively easy after number two: reestablish the rule of international law. It's not enough to just hang our own war criminals, we have to hang the entire world's war criminals. The rule of law requires punishment. Appropriate punishment for war crimes is death. International law already prohibits war under almost any circumstance. Enforce the law, and peace will ensue. Then we can worry about reinforcing peace with profit.
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Posted by: AlexLawyer on Jan 1, 2009 12:16 AM
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Posted by: marxalot on Jan 1, 2009 3:46 AM
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Posted by: BillSamuel on Jan 1, 2009 3:56 AM
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All the polls showed an anti-war majority, but they only polled about Iraq. They did not go to the broader issues.
Obama's assumption all along, clear in his original Iraq speech in 2002, is that America's way of war and domination is right; it's just Iraq which is wrong. His national security team are all hawks, mostly even on Iraq. His Chief of Staff is a very extreme hawk, a longtime supporter of state terrorism whose father was a terrorist and who was named after a terrorist. Obama ran on a platform of a larger military budget and larger military forces. He spent most of his 2002 speech assuring folks he was not for peace, and everything since then has reaffirmed that.
The proposals are great, but the corporatist political parties and mainstream media fail to even allow these issues to be raised. Obama seems no more likely than Bush to follow any of these proposals. We must redouble our efforts to raise the critical issues and get the people to rise up nonviolently against the perpetual warfare state.
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Posted by: maxpayne on Jan 1, 2009 5:19 AM
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No, if it weren't for oil, the war machines wouldn't be propped up so easy in the first place.
On his first solution, 2020 is just nothing but another procrastination idea.
And if he actually took a look at the mess in India and Pakistan in a non-biased manner, he'd see that those so-called "peace talks" are nothing but BULLSHIT talks. "Peace talks" between those two have been going on for years and yet nothing but more terrorist attacks conveniently ignored by the RACIST western media. Even the recent coverage of the Mumbai attacks were RACIST in nature since only folks from US, EU, and Israel were given "special" importance while the media said FUCK YOU indirectly to the rest. Holding the terrorists and their enablers and perpetrators such as the corrupt leadership in US and EU in addition to the dictators in the Arab world enabling and empowering all this is what needs to be done. Otherwise, forget about peace.
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Posted by: polreport@live.com on Jan 1, 2009 5:20 AM
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So, their needs to be a great push for Defence quality and accountability at the same time that there is a push for Peace Markets.
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Jan 1, 2009 5:22 AM
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I have to give the Pak-Man his props, though, for sticking his neck out. Much of his audience are middle-class Boomers who look to him primarily to maximize their own personal health, wealth, and happiness. Where foreign policy and economics are concerned, Reagan is still their guru of choice. Stepping outside the Boomers' mental boundaries with respect to private/public could be bad for business.
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Posted by: drricklippin on Jan 1, 2009 6:55 AM
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Didn't our new President-to-be write a book called The Audacity of Hope? Isn't it time to take the audacious leap toward hope with him? After all,the election of Obama alone, is cause for a renewed "run at the triumph of human hope?"
But I believe the best chance for transformation from fear to hope will come about through healthy education of our global youth. I especially like the work of David Boulton
The opposite of healthy global education of our youth is the mind poison of fundamentalist organized religions(note plural please)which sustains the intrapsychic fear and distrust of others necessary for the maintenance of the profit generating, warmongering, military-industrial complexes, not only in the US, but around the globe.
Dr. Rick Lippin
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Posted by: foreverhope on Jan 1, 2009 9:27 AM
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What makes WTPL different from the two politcal parties we have right now? You think we are special here cause we read more? So we are elitist? lol....
Personally I'm not fond of new political perties. Our democracy is imperfect and fragile but I like it. Why not get involved and change the two parties we already have, make them work instead of throwing them away? The democratic party is stronger and better than it has been in decades, I am happy there. The dems needed a good shaking up and got it. I'm not only happy, I'm VERY HAPPY!
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jan 1, 2009 7:44 AM
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Posted by: foreverhope on Jan 1, 2009 8:16 AM
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Happy New Year boys and girls and especially Happy New Year to Alternet!
It's been one hell of an interesting year. Did anyone even imagine that we would be here talking about PRESIDENT OBAMA this time last year? Nope, but here we are and it is only going to get more interesting, interesting in a good way not a bad way.
The naysayers thought for sure Obama couldn't win, but YIPPEEEE, he did and in no small measure. Millions of new voters infusing new blood into the democratic party from the ground up can only be good for our fragile democracy. Now cynics are saying he won't make the change he promised? You were very wrong before and even more wrong now. These are exciting times and I am glad to be here to witness it.
Toni Morrison, the Nobel and Pulitzer prize winning author endorsed Obama. Her letter is brillant and reads in part:
"Wisdom is a gift; you can't train for it, inherit it, learn it in a class, or earn it in the workplace--that access can foster the acquisition of knowledge, but not wisdom. When, I wondered, was the last time this country was guided by such a leader? Someone whose moral center was un-embargoed? Someone with courage instead of mere ambition? Someone who truly thinks of his country's citizens as "we," not "they"? Someone who understands what it will take to help America realize the virtues it fancies about itself, what it desperately needs to become in the world?"
Yes we can.
Peace Out and God bless everyone!
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Posted by: Ghoulman on Jan 1, 2009 10:18 AM
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Put down the bong. Get a grip. Buy a clue.
I love the first bit in this article...
"1. Scale out arms dealing and make it illegal by the year 2020."
Yea. Sure. That will happen. This is the United States we are talking about, right???
Listen Alternet, I don't come here to read FICTION. Sheesh.
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Posted by: John Nicol on Jan 1, 2009 11:19 AM
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There is a bill before the House to establish a United States Department of Peace and a Cabinet-level Secretary of Peace. Its purpose would be to study peace and teach and implement the skills of peace throughout our society and the world. Without these skills, we will revert to what we know in the next crisis.
Contact your people in Congress to support this bill, and explain the concept to them as you do so. Most of them don't get it.
While we're about it, we should return the Department of Defense to its original name, the Department of War. What is defensive about a Department which operates 761 military bases around the world? Let's get out of denial and call it what it is.
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Posted by: vasumurti on Jan 1, 2009 12:05 PM
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The fact that predators exist in the wild does not imply man must imitate them. Cannibalism and rape also occur in nature. Robert Louis Stevenson, in his book In the South Seas, noted that there was little difference between the "civilized" Europeans and the "savages" of the Cannibal Islands:
"We consume the carcasses of creatures with like appetites, passions, and organs as our own. We feed on babes, though not our own, and fill the slaughterhouses daily with screams of pain and fear."
Studies indicate flesh-eaters have less endurance than do vegetarians, while vegetarians have two to three times greater stamina and recover five times more quickly from exhaustion. Most kinds of cancer, as well as heart disease, osteoporosis, kidney disease, diabetes, multiple sclerosis, hemorrhoids, diverticulosis, arthritis, obesity, gallstones and gallbladder disease are all preventable and treatable on a vegetarian diet.
The ill effects of alcohol and nicotine are well-documented. The FBI reports that 60 to 75 percent of all violent crime is alcohol-related. Might there be a similar relationship between meat-eating and violent behavior?
In a letter to a friend on the subject of vegetarianism, Albert Einstein wrote, "Besides agreeing with your aims for aesthetic and moral reasons, it is my view that a vegetarian manner of living by its purely physical effect on the human temperament would most beneficially influence the lot of mankind."
U Nu, the former Prime Minister of Burma, made a similar observation: "World peace, or any other kind of peace, depends greatly on the attitude of the mind. Vegetarianism can bring about the right mental attitude for peace...it holds forth a better way of life, which, if practiced universally, can lead to a better, more just, and more peaceful community of nations."
Thomas Tryon (1634-1703) warned the first Quaker settlers of Pennsylvania that their "holy experiment" in peaceful living would fail unless they extended their Christian precepts of nonviolence to the animal kingdom. "Does not bounteous Mother Earth furnish us with all sorts of food necessary for life?" he asked. "Though you will not fight with and kill those of your own species, yet I must be bold to tell you, that these lesser violences (as you call them) do proceed from the same root of wrath and bitterness as the greater do."
Reverend Basil Wrighton, the chairman of the Catholic Study Circle for Animal Welfare in London, wrote in a 1965 article entitled, "The Golden Age Must Return: A Catholic's Views on Vegetarianism," that a vegetarian diet is not only consistent with, but actually required by the tenets of Christianity. He concluded that the killing of animals for food not only violates religious tenets, but brutalizes humans to the point where violence and warfare against other humans becomes inevitable.
"Who loves this terrible thing called war?" asked Isadora Duncan. "Probably the meat-eaters, having killed, feel the need to kill...The butcher with his bloody apron incites bloodshed, murder. Why not? From cutting the throat of a young calf to cutting the throats of our brothers and sisters is but a step. While we ourselves are living graves of murdered animals, how can we expect any ideal conditions on the earth?"
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Posted by: vasumurti on Jan 1, 2009 12:07 PM
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The way we treat animals IS indicative of the way we treat our fellow humans. One Soviet study, published in Ogonyok, found that over 87% of a group of violent criminals has, as children, burned, hanged, or stabbed domestic animals. In our own country, a major study by Dr. Stephen Kellert of Yale University found that children who abuse animals have a much higher likelihood of becoming violent criminals.
A 1997 study by the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (MSPCA) reported that children convicted of animal abuse are five times more likely to commit violence against other humans than are their peers, and four times more likely to be involved in acts against property.
Meat-eating contributes to the fear in the world by putting us in a position in which there is not enough to go around. But that's not all. Meat-eaters ingest residues of the animal's biochemical response to the horrors of the slaughterhouse. Programmed to fight or flee when in danger for their lives, the animals react to the slaughterhouse in sheer terror. Powerful biochemical agents are secreted that pump through their bloodstreams and onto their flesh, energizing them to fight or flee for their lives.
Like screaming air rain sirens, these chemical agents produce instinctual panic. Today's slaughterhouses virtually guarantee that the animals will die in terror.
The Maoris would eat the flesh of a slaughtered enemy in order to possess the enemy's courage and strength. The people of the lower Nubia, likewise, would eat the fox, believing that by so doing, they would be possessed of his cunning.
In upper Egypt, the heart of the hoopoe bird was eaten in order to acquire the ability to become a clever scribe. The bird would be caught and its heart would be torn out and eaten while it was still alive. On the other hand, certain Native American tribes would not eat the flesh of an animal who died in fear, because they did not want to take into themselves the terror of such an animal.
When we eat animals who have died violent deaths we literally eat their fear. We take in biochemical agents designed by nature to tell an animal that its life is in the gravest danger, and it must either fight or flee for its life. And then, in our wars and our daily lives, we give expression to the panic in which the animals we have eaten died.
"Truly man is the king of beasts, for his brutality exceeds them," said Leonardo da Vinci. "We live by the death of others. We are burial places! I have since an early age abjured the use of meat, and the time will come when men will look upon the murder of animals as they look upon the murder of man."
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Posted by: Shakti on Jan 1, 2009 2:14 PM
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Regarding Obama's choices right now and the obvious -- some say laughable -- idealism of Chopra's suggestions, it is interesting that we become a war-based economy during the Great Depression, as we geared up for WWII. Maybe we can do things differently this time, as Gore and others have suggested, becoming a green-based economy as we gear up to save our environment (that is, preserve an environment in which humans can live). Shifting from a war-based economy to a green-economy in response to the very real emergencies we are facing is not that far-fetched. As water and food shortages, extreme weather events, and other global warming disasters combine with peak oil, we will have to come up with a pretty impressive response. This is what will finally get us off our weapons/oil addiction and help us shift from an industrial age economy to a ecological age economy. Necessity is the mother of invention.
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P.S. Prevent the abuse of GNR technologies.
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Posted by: using on Jan 1, 2009 4:55 PM
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I believe that it will be much easier to alter how a group thinks and ultimately how they behave by changing the economic vision and conditions in which that group must survive.
THank you Deepak Chapra for your clear vision.
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Posted by: altoid on Jan 1, 2009 7:28 PM
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Scale out arms dealing and make it illegal by the year 2020.
This doesn't seem to be totally outside the realm of possibility as far as our own country is concerned. I was very frustrated by the idea that the Pakistanis and Indians could begin fighting with weapons we sold both of them. Sure, they would have armed themselves someway, but in the event a conflict did break out, that doesn't expunge our moral culpability.
Convert military bases to housing for the poor.
This is fine as long as they are not essential. Too much politics goes into which bases stay open and which ones are closed. I have no doubt that we could close some military bases, and using that oft unused property for public housing is fine with me, as long as it is dormant. If it was donated by the local municipality, they should have first dibs to do something with it. My concern, is that Mrs. Chopra seems to be speaking of ALL bases.
Call a moratorium on future weapons technologies.
Absolute idiocy. If we don't develop the next strategically advantageous weapon, someone else will. It has been shown (and will continue to be) that one cannot contain technology. Just ask China, they are trying mightily to control the flow of cyberspace information right now and aren't succeeding very well. They wouldn't be succeeding at all, if it weren't for American companies' culpability in the effort to make money. In any case, if we hadn't developed the nuclear weapon first, it would have increased the likelihood that our enemies (that don't always share Mrs. Chopra's idealism) would have developed it first, and we could have been the recipient.
Fully fund social services and take the balance out of the defense and homeland security budgets.
We do spend to much on defense. There is little doubt about this, as we have a military budget larger than all others combined. We also need reinvestment in social services, I wouldn't argue that point either. However, one would need to be very careful about what is cut and how much. I favor smart reduced spending versus the current bloated model, but such a drastic cut would probably come back to bite us.
One may ask why I chose to comment so much on an article by someone that I totally perceive to be an uncredible and blatantly callow author. I do this because it was prominently highlighted on two websites that I read daily and which I very much like. This kind of naivete cannot be tolerated by anyone, especially our party, because of the long-term damage that would be done to our overall strategic goals. While our current military structure needs a serious over hall, I would favor the current model over anything Mrs. Chopra suggests. We need not fall back to the time when we had no standing/ready army. I think that discussion/decision by our founders has been vindicated through the prism of history.
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Posted by: Ripcord on Jan 1, 2009 9:42 PM
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I really like this idea.
Step 1:
Return control of our National Guard to the States.
They had the mission of emergency support: fighting fires, rebuilding roads, heavy civil engineering, etc.
But Bush moved operational control of the state's Guards to the federal government and sent them to Iraq.
Step 2:
Make peacekeeping training the highest priority.
Step 3:
Have professional military personnel assigned part-time work which deals with the destructive evil of armed conflict; like make service people scrub the blood off the floors in emergency rooms in the Gaza Strip or full military funerals for every collateral civilian killed by our bombs or rebuild every building that is destroyed by a tank or dig water wells in Africa.
Step 4:
Change the curriculum at our Military War colleges and rename them with names like, "The Naval Peace College" or "East Point."
Unfortunately, there'd be plenty of resistance from the civilian for-profit sector. Not only from arms manufacturers, but also little workers who try to get paid for cleaning ER floors.
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Posted by: leafsong1 on Jan 2, 2009 4:39 PM
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1) Get the troops home. Immediately, unconditionally, without apology or explanation.
2) HANG THE WAR CRIMINALS. We have at least a million of them in this country and they should all die.
3) This should be relatively easy after number two: reestablish the rule of international law. It's not enough to just hang our own war criminals, we have to hang the entire world's war criminals. The rule of law requires punishment. Appropriate punishment for war crimes is death. International law already prohibits war under almost any circumstance. Enforce the law, and peace will ensue. Then we can worry about reinforcing peace with profit.
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