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Environment

Can the Ruling Classes Save the World From Global Warming?

By Doug Henwood, The Nation. Posted April 28, 2007.


Many big businesses are calling for action on global warming, but will their solutions be the changes we need?
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When the rich and powerful gathered for their annual meeting at Davos in January, at the World Economic Forum, climate change was on their collective minds. Signs reading Make Green Pay served as a backdrop for the usual panels, featuring CEOs and high-end pundits holding forth on global finance and the terrorist threat. And, participants say, global warming was the number-one topic amid the shmoozing, where the real business of the retreat is conducted.

There's some good news here. Given the risk that a climate catastrophe could hit soon and suddenly, we've got to make some dramatic changes very quickly. What CEOs and portfolio managers think and do is an urgent question; we may not have time for mass movements to develop and force elites to do the right thing. They've got to get started now, or all could be doomed.

But you've got to wonder how serious they are about doing something. Chris Giles, economics editor of the Financial Times, said at Davos that there's no evidence that CEOs and Cabinet ministers were about to make "tough decisions" to avert catastrophe.

Had I been invited to Davos, I could have earned an I Am Offset pin by paying a mere $93 to "offset" a New York to Zurich round-trip flight -- a journey that produces more than six tons of carbon emissions. About 60 percent of attendees performed this act of penance, though as A.C. Thompson and Duane Moles show in this issue, carbon offsets are a pretty dubious business. The more serious question -- is Davos-style jet-setting sustainable? -- wasn't likely to come up when consciences were assuaged by the offsets.

But maybe this is too negative. Let's savor the spreading climate consciousness among the corporate elite. Amazingly, the CEOs of the Big Three US auto companies and Toyota appeared before a Congressional committee in mid-March to endorse limits on carbon emissions -- and they failed to rise to the bait when a Republican panel member, Joe Barton, characterized the human contribution to greenhouse gas emissions as "trivial." Even ExxonMobil, the most recalcitrant of the oil companies, has a statement of concern on its website. When the auto and oil industries feel they have to talk the climate change talk, then something is happening.

A milestone in the evolution of elite opinion was last October's publication by the British government of the Stern Review, an overview of the economics of climate change, named after former World Bank chief economist Nicholas Stern. While many have (rightly) criticized the review for its excessive caution, its political contribution shouldn't be underestimated: It promoted the idea in elite discourse that there would be substantial economic costs to doing nothing about climate change. As Stern showed, it's not good for the GDP when crops fail, storms intensify, pandemics spread and coastal cities flood.

Another milestone was the creation in January of the US Climate Action Partnership (USCAP). Among the players are such noted friends of the earth as GE, DuPont, PG&E, Caterpillar and BP (which tries to be the greenest of the oil companies but is still an oil company, and one with a terrible worker-safety record at that).

Joining those firms are some of the most business-friendly environmental organizations, like Environmental Defense (ED) and the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC). While USCAP's manifesto calls for relatively modest reductions in greenhouse gas emissions, and seems in no hurry to get there, it is remarkable to see such blue-chip corporate names signing on to any kind of green program, even if it is a rather pale shade of green.

And then in late March yet another group formed, Investors and Business for US Climate Action, a coalition of institutional investors (including not only union and public-sector pension funds but also big private-sector names like Merrill Lynch), foundations and businesses. Among their founding documents was a letter to George W., urging him to take serious action on the climate and asking for a meeting.

All that's not to say the denialists have gone into hiding, and it's no surprise that the dead-enders at the Wall Street Journal editorial page are leading the resistance. The creation of USCAP was greeted by the Journal's Kimberley Strassel with a real screamer of a piece, denouncing the "jolly green giants" for secretly wanting to make money on carbon reduction while appearing high-minded in public.

True enough, but Strassel won't cut them an inch of slack: "At least when Big Pharma self-interestedly asks for fewer regulations, the economy benefits." Reducing greenhouse gas emissions, in WSJ-land, has no upside at all.


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Doug Henwood edits the Left Business Observer. His latest book is "After the New Economy" (New Press); he's in the early phases of a study of the American ruling class.

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ruling classes never were able to change
Posted by: richholland on Apr 28, 2007 1:59 AM   
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The ruling class Only is interested in their luxury life and will use the global warming for new taxes and more profits and more power.
History learns us; in 1748 many farmers died for hunger in France, everybody knew the system didnot work but the nobility was not willing to give up anything.
Only the french revolution changed things.
1914 The Russian nobility was happy with the 1st World War;
army contracts, stop the revolutians by killing them in the battlefields.
So in Germany.
We had a global warming 15000 years ago many hunters/gatherers between the Canarian Islands and Africa and between England and the mainland had to emigrate and change lifestyle, together with the Kaukasians agruculter came.
Nowadays you see all over the world more new cars, more use of oil.
To change the economy you must change your poliyical system.
One solution ;only CEO s allowed to have cars and to fly.
A division into a big poor underclas and a small upperclass.
So in a way Mr.Bush is your perfect president and certainly not Al Gore(although he has a private Jet to save enviroment.)

Let us face it, dear backpackers flying from USA to Thailand on a schnorkeling Ecotour killing the coral, dropping empty cocacolacans.

During the second world war we had electricity some hours a daybut the RICH still had their gasoline, this is Darwinism the fittest survive

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Dumb question.
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 28, 2007 3:02 AM   
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Of course the ruling class won't save the world from global warming. Instead, they’ll milk the looming disaster for every cent possible. Like the bumper sticker says, “He who dies with the most toys wins.”

Ten years ago, before catastrophic climate change became a topical issue, I researched global warming for a science fiction novel of mine, “The Last UFO.”

Here's what I wrote in my self-published, 122,000-word thriller:

"Unless there was a reversal of the heating trend, both polar ice caps would melt, flooding coastline communities around the world. Evidence of the trend was particularly dramatic in Antarctica where average regional temperatures had risen 4.5 degrees Fahrenheit since 1947, when Athenian transporters [UFOs] first began taking measurements."

In the same chapter, two main characters discuss global warning,

Asks one character, “Have you seen the movie, ‘Water World,’ with Kevin Costner?”

“Yeah, I saw it last year. The ice caps melted and completely flooded the Earth. Are you telling me that will happen someday?”

“Yes and no. The ice caps are disappearing and that won’t stop, but dry land will still exist. The problem is, the useable amount would have humans living on it like ants in colonies, only more crowded with little room for agriculture. There will be constant wars for food and fresh water. The mass killings would make the Holocaust seem insignificant.”

End of the “The Last UFO” extract.

Assume for a moment the above text is a realistic scenario, then reflect on our growing, two-class Have and Have-not society and what it will be like in the next century. Do you really believe that future powers to be -- America’s ruling elite -- will behave any different than their greedy ancestors?

Of course not. One hundred years from now, people rich enough to own electric cars will have bumper stickers that say, “He who dies with the most food and water wins.”


Hugh E. Scott, editor of King-George.biz -- the only website with hardcopy proof of White House corruption.

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» RE: Dumb question. Posted by: bloominblacksheep
Nope.
Posted by: talkville on Apr 28, 2007 4:28 AM   
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Especially the current ruling classes.

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Did the ruling classes save the world from poverty?
Posted by: Bobsays on Apr 28, 2007 5:14 AM   
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And we know from all the stats that global poverty shot up in the period after WWII (also coincidently the period of the greatest disbursement of international aid). The only time the ruling class has ever handed over a benefit to the 'people' it has been under threat. It is human nature to never give up the power you enjoy.

The green thing is a power tool for Al Gore. And it is working for him: he is now a stalking horse contender for the presidency.

The best example of the validity of today's green washing is how much of it is being propegated by SUV driving yuppies who jet around the world.

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henwood doesn't even know he's in "Vichy America"
Posted by: amacd on Apr 28, 2007 6:14 AM   
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Sorry, but excuse me for not being concerned or interested in the thoughts of a writer talking about the elite ruling-class possibly being a part of the solution to global warming and destruction of average peoples' only fragile environment.

Henwood's bio on this article says he's, "in the early phases of a study of the American ruling class."

Well, la de la, buddy. I'm in the late stages of studying (and understanding) the guileful global corporate elite Empire that has taken over our country and erected this phony facade of "Vichy America" to keep rubes and fools believing that everything is OK, while they loot and destroy the world with their axis of Hedge Fund Whores and Private Equity Pirates running rampant over the entire scam of this political and media cover-up.

Sorry to be so harsh, Dougie, but we simply don't have the time to listen or be distracted by well meaning but naive idealists or overt shills talking about the 'ruling-class' doing anything except involuntarily leaving the planet.

I'm certainly not going to take my eye off the target in my cross-hair to debate whether the "Ruling Classes Save the World From Global Warming".

We're a little late in the repeated history of 'ruling class' Empires raping the world and killing millions of average, honest, 'working class' people and their kids to worry about anything but the elimination of this unacceptable danger to our children and the very survival of our human existence on earth.

Hey, Dougie, wake-up. The current restoration of Empire (after a short period of humanist progress and partial democracy) looks very clearly to me as only a more guileful version of the same ruling elite Empire scams of the past two thousand years. Let's not go all wobbly in the knees that this time the Ruling Class Empire is going to be 'nicer', or that we can work with them to 'all just get along'.

I don't know whether you really believe this 'kumbya' BS Dougie, or whether you are just another imperialist media shill (like the friggin NYT, WaPo, NBC, CBS, etc, etc). All I know is that I'm not going to waste my time (or aim) on listening to 'ruling class' nonsense like the BS the media blew up our arses in the run-up to their Bushie led disasterous oil-war in Iraq.

Hell, does everyone think we are stupid? After seeing Moyers' expose on the ruling class Empire's lies and the fawning media parroting of the lies that led to massive financial and person deaths in their imperial Iraq oil-war, do they think we are stupid enough to be listening to the exact same media idiots and pimps about who we should be excited about in the 2008 presidential campaign 'show'??

The vast majority of the average, humane, and real 'working class' in what's left of our country are starting to realize that they have been hosed and screwed by the ruling class Empire and its pompous, sycophant media whores. Average Americans now are beginning to know that the only thing this arrogant elitist "ruling class" Empire is ever going to do is to pervert and 'game' the political system, the economic system, and the media system to screw the majority. Hell, Dougie, that's the friggin raison d'tat of ruling class Empires --- always has been, and always will be (if we don't stop them).

The time for happy talk and wishful thinking is over, Doug. Pick up a weapon or get out of the way.

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IN THE NEAR FUTURE...
Posted by: Roverton on Apr 28, 2007 7:33 AM   
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There won't be enough supllies for everyone. I wonder if the wealthy elite will want to share with the rest of us.

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I'M QUITE SURE
Posted by: Roverton on Apr 28, 2007 7:36 AM   
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...the wealty elite have promised their private soldiers favored treatment, but the Pharoes always did away with their guards eventually as well.

They are betrayers of all. True loyalty is totaally dead in them.

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Perhaps they could, but it's doubtful they will
Posted by: Beck on Apr 28, 2007 7:45 AM   
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The latest Sierra magazine has a huge section on global warming that neglects flying. It has a target-type diagram that is an action plan for global warming, which leaves out flying. The magazine has many ads for trips to exotic locales. Worst of all, Sierra Club itself lists dozens of trips near the end of the magazine, probably most of which the participants will fly to. There was, in an issue a few months ago, a mention of the possibility of offsetting, and of the importance of experiencing other cultures. I'm sure, when Bangladesh goes under, they'll be saying, "At least the Americans got to experience other cultures." I doubt, though, that much of that happens in any meaningful way (we seem to prefer controlled, sterile adventure) in the incessant traveling that Americans do. It's the new consumerism, the new clutter. And the new Keeping Up with The Joneses. Nothing about global warming depresses me more than listening to environmentalists (I was going to put that in quotes, but except for their huge blind spots about flying, most of them are sincere) compare where they just flew to, and their life list of destinations, past and future. Bringing up the problems with air travel will get you regarded as the worst killjoy, and get you hit with incredible amounts of denial, and the oddest despair at the thought of perhaps not being able to travel 2 or 3 times a year. What has made us think we need this, not just want it, but actually need it? Why are organizations dedicated to saving the planet encouraging this unsustainable activity?

In our local paper this morning, a scientist who speaks out on global warming mentioned the huge negative impact of flying, and then dismissed her own constant air travel by saying she needed to for meetings. The denial of another addict, in a nation of addicts in denial.

National Geographic has a new book out, something like 100 Ways to be Green. They are brave enough to include air travel, bluntly saying not to do it. According to them, each person on the plane is responsible for the same amount of emissions as if they'd driven a big SUV to the same destination. For most of us, this makes flying worse than driving, because most of us go on vacations with partners or friends, and wouldn't do it in separate SUVs. However, when you fly on vacation, this is what it's like: each person driving their own individual SUV to wherever you went. Four of you on the plane, four SUVs.

One of the saddest things about this is the negative impact on local destinations, and the blindness about the small amount of real pleasure these long-distance trips seem to contain. Many people speak of where they went as if it's something on a checklist, with each activity on the trip sounding the same. It's as if being able to say you went is the main point of going, that and adding it to an ever-growing list, and actually having a really marvelous experience is optional and rare.

Is it possible that we've begun to awaken to the idea that we don't get happiness from having more things, but now have shifted this obsession with accumulation to travel without fully realizing it?

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Reponses must be a national policy priority.
Posted by: CriminallySane on Apr 28, 2007 8:10 AM   
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Change is coming to the corporate world. Maybe not as quickly as some would like, maybe not as far as some might hope for, but as an atmospheric scientist and businessman I heard speak said once, there is green to be made by going green.

No matter. The important part is this: Unless and until not only adapting to climate change but also moving towards technologies that will reduce those changes, not merely slow them, becomes a matter of national priority at the policy level, from the White House on outward, with the "bully pulpit" backed by both the power to compel and the willingness to employ that power, nothing will change. There will always be foot-draggers, and without the power to compel, there is no way to deal with them.

Insurers are a special case. Don't make the mistake of thinking them fools. (Predatory? That's another discussion!) Coverage in parts of the Gulf and southeastern US is getting much more expensive, and in some cases is no longer available. Even if they lack anything resembling social or environmental awareness, insurers know that when they have to make huge payouts they compromise their true mission, generating investment capital. Storms and floods thus hurt their bottom lines. Those who would build along the Gulf, in Florida or the Carolinas, or indeed in any low-lying coastal areas. need to stop emulating King Canute in their folly. Sooner or later, those areas will be inundated, again and again, with each one worse than, and perhaps longer-lasting than, the last. Not covering those areas will in fact mean that building there becomes impossible, not just irresponsible. Ultimately, they're doing the right thing, albeit for very wrong reasons.

And all the well-meant (and indeed noble) individual efforts, the compact fluoros, the hybrids, riding buses and more, will not make for a statistically significant decrease in the rate of warming without a national emphasis greater than that of either the Manhattan or Apollo projects. And without that, from the above-described national policy level, we have no moral leverage when we look to, let alone speak to, China and India and the other expanding economies, where significantly larger populations aspire to near-American standards of living.

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Corporations can be visionary
Posted by: daw13 on Apr 28, 2007 8:36 AM   
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As when Teddy Roosevelt's Progressive Business movement early in the 20th century established the Corporate elite we "enjoy" being fucked over by today. These guys fully understood the importance of social control versus profiteering. Coopting labor and convincing people they could get their needs met without really organizing (no, young Skywalker, once the Wobblies were disposed of American labor was never a real grassroots operation) was a major priority.

There is no doubt that a paradigm change is coming and that the CEOs will bring it about. The only thing that surprises me is that their commitment to this change is leaking out. Its in their interests that the citizenry remain convinced that environmental warming is an issue manufactured by liberals. The last thing they want us doing is organizing, and if it looks like we might, they damned well want to control the process. When the shit finally really hits the fan -- meaning its plugging our nostrils to the point we don't just smellit, we can no longer breath through it -- they need to be able to pull the rug out from under us so fast we won't be able to convert our rejection of denial, finally, into real action.

The one thing you can be certain of is that the discomforts sure to be a consequence of the paradigm shift will fall entirely upon our shoulders, and if we don't like it .... don't even think about the Bill of Rights. It's already gone. Who do you think orchestrated that development? The halfwitted incumbent? Or a totally visionary corporate elite?

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» RE: Corporations can be visionary Posted by: albrechtkrausse
Global Warming Hypocrites by Paul Joseph Watson
Posted by: rwa on Apr 28, 2007 8:37 AM   
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Last week, singer Sheryl Crow demanded that we all use one square of toilet paper per bathroom visit to help save the planet. Shortly after these comments, the Smoking Gun website uncovered documents showing Crow's touring requirements, which include three tractor trailers, four buses and six cars...

John Travolta urged everyone to "do their bit" to fight global warming, warning that "We have to think about alternative methods of fuel."

Travolta has five private jets parked in his runway [go to link for this must see picture], has produced an estimated 800 tons of carbon emissions, 100 times more than the average person in the last year, is a "serving ambassador" for the Australian airline Qantas and named his son Jett as a tribute to his love of flying. So when Travolta lectures me about "doing my bit" forgive me for taking it with a pinch of salt.


Al Gore's 20 room private mansion uses 20 times the national U.S. average of gas and electricity, as Gore lavishes himself in his heated swimming pool while poor people and the middle class await the onslaught of carbon taxes to eviscerate any disposable income they have left.

Gore is behind the spectacle of the Live-8 style Live Earth concerts that will take place in numerous cities around the world to raise awareness about climate change. The performers who will be showcased at these concerts include Madonna...According to a report, last year "Madonna flew as many as 100 technicians, dancers, backing singers, managers and family members on a 56-date world tour in private jets and commercial airliners." The singer's Confessions tour produced 440 tonnes of CO2 in four months of last year.


Other acts, including rock group Red Hot Chili Peppers, all use private jets...yesterday throngs queued up outside a London supermarket to buy "eco-friendly" bags that have become the latest must-have fashion item and another trinket for them to grandstand and revel in the pomp that they are saving Mother Earth. In reality, the bags were made in China and transported thousands of miles by CO2 belching jet planes.

If you believe in the notion of man-made global warming, then you should be very concerned about the fact that the leading proponents of the theory are all giant hypocrites espousing outlandish and radical measures to combat climate change while fearmongering about doomsday scenarios, while their own carbon footprints dwarf the average person's by a hundred times or more.

The result of this will be that the mantra of man-made global warming will begin to look increasingly inane. People with an ounce of common sense will see through the fact that... hysteria is deliberately being whipped up on behalf of governments in order to grease the skids for draconian taxation and control measures that won't even do anything to combat man-made global warming...

Meanwhile, real environmental issues like GMOs poisoning our very food supply, the disappearance of huge swathes of the bee populations across the world, deforestation and toxic waste dumping, all get buried while global warming monopolizes the attention of the phony environmental movement.

No doubt there'll be several responses to this article accusing me of denying that the planet is heating up and saying I'm on the payroll of the oil companies. For those people, I would like to remind you of the fact that it was none other than Peter Sutherland, the chairman of British Petroleum, who rallied his fellow elitists at the Trilateral Commission meeting last month, to exploit global warming in order to impose a standardized carbon tax, a measure that will create artificial scarcity and, just like peak oil, raise prices, reaping billions in profits for oil industry moguls.

remove space:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/artic les/april2007/270407sickandtired.htm

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More fake economic solutions to try and solve...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Apr 28, 2007 8:42 AM   
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...an ill-understood environmental phenomenon through the use of Police State powers.

About 60 percent of attendees performed this act of penance, though as A.C. Thompson and Duane Moles show in this issue, carbon offsets are a pretty dubious business.

Well, at least the author doesn't buy into the cap-and-trade nonsense.

It's painful for someone like me, who instinctively gravitates to the more radical position on most issues, to admit that the "better deal for business" is still a lot better than nothing.

It's nice to see an author who can at least recognize that folks like being in business. I'm sure the author didn't type his essay on an abacus made from post-consumer recycled products (well, the numbers, anyway).

But it's worth examining the problems with their proposals, with the hope of agitating for something better.

Suggestion: agitate your butt into engineering, geology, materials, or other science school and agitate something useful, rather than something you'd arbitrarily label as "better" because it fits your belief structure. Otherwise, a better descriptor for the author's "agitating" is "whining".

An early version of cap-and-trade was the 1990 domestic US agreement to limit acid-rain-causing sulfur dioxide emissions by coal-burning electric utilities.

Oh hell. Now we've bought whole-heartedly back into the land of dubious. You could make all sorts of arguments against the nonsense of imposing an artificial economy in the limited areas of the world that are well-off enough to temporarily allow their state to police them so...dubiously...but that's like "debating" the merits and questions of evolution with a creationizer.

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Bioregionalism is the Key
Posted by: waterislifeaguaesvida on Apr 28, 2007 9:15 AM   
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The issue is not intentions of corporations. This is not an issue to demonize for an abstract agenda. This is an issue to organize and implement at the appropriate level and build political entities that are based on stakeholders input and management within a defined watershed.

Energy transition takes implementation of plans and technologies that are already out there. But it also requires new criteria for local planning and energy consumption. It requires a new infra structure for electrical distribution that will decentralize electrical generation. This will be the only thing that will be able to decisively circumvent the nuclear generation issue.

As long as electrical power remains as centralized as it is, the coal option will merely be replaced with nuclear. It will almost be like just unplugging from one outlet and plugging into another.

There are economics issues that inherently arise. Those who demonize corporations decisively push those most impacted by such a move away from coal into a pro-nuclear position. There are ways to minimize the economic impacts of the transition and they cannot be ignored.

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Alternatives Already Out There
Posted by: waterislifeaguaesvida on Apr 28, 2007 9:22 AM   
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A. Establish the highest percentages for renewable energy production and alternative transportation systems that require the introduction of alternative energies in a twenty year period; http://www.earth-policy.org/Books/PlanB_contents.htm

B. Economic compensation packages that address workers impacted by the transition http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/studies_cleanenergyandjobs ;

C. Monitoring systems to evaluate the changes in greenhouse gas emissions in the atmosphere http://www.ec.gc.ca/pdb/ghg/ghg_home_e.cfm ;

D. Incentives for the development of alternatives to petroleum-based products "Petroleum is also the raw material for many chemical products, including solvents, fertilizers, pesticides, and plastics; the 16% not used for energy production is converted into these other materials." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum

E. Reduction in the production of single-user modes of transportation http://www.worldwatch.org/node/808 , increase in public investment in mass transit operated with renewable energy http://lrta.info/Facts/facts130.html ;

F. Transition of investment of public utility companies in solar and wind technology, decreasing proportion of energy provided by coal, nuclear and oil http://www.energybulletin.net/5000.html ;

G. Establishment of stakeholder boards for oversight and review http://maineghg.raabassociates.org/member.asp?sort=other , Public Utilities Commissions elected by energy users and represented by qualified advocates including environmental, residential, municipal, and rural;

H. Congressional budgetary commitments through carbon taxes
http://www.carbontax.org/ that transition from military expenditures to energy conversion research and development, implementing Swenson's Law :"

To avoid deprivation resulting from the exhaustion of non-renewable resources, humanity must employ conservation and renewable resource substitutes sufficient to match depletion." http://www.hubbertpeak.com/swenson/

I. Establishment of Green Building codes;

J. Revamping of commercial railroad system and increasing mileage of track- increase requirement for piggy-backing of trailers across states; http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/2229

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Ar you kidding?!
Posted by: monkeywrench on Apr 28, 2007 9:26 AM   
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"Can the Ruling Classes Save the World From Global Warming?"

No.

Not unless they can figure out ways to make saving the world turn a handsome profit. We shouldn't depend upon – or even believe – "solutions" from the same greedy manipulators that got us into this mess in the first place.

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» Eat the Middlemen Posted by: eddie torres
That stuff you're smokin' must be good
Posted by: DaBear on Apr 28, 2007 10:54 AM   
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Nah, the elites will sidestep the entire situation, pull up the ladders behind them, wall themselves in and clink champagne glasses over their techno-solution to global warming while the rest of us die-off. History is the evidence that demands we not get sucked into the happy-happy corporate cult.

Of course this keeps spec-fict writers in business and feeds my kids.

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» RE: Oh HELL! Posted by: weatherking
This is a response to rwa's comment about Paul Joseph Watson.
Posted by: HughScott on Apr 28, 2007 10:56 AM   
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Because rwa's comment tweaked my interest, I googled "Paul Joseph Watson" and found an article titled, "Counterfeit Foe -- The Ultimate Hegelian Dialectic.”

I don't agree with everything he says, of course -- especially about President Reagan who, I believe, had early onset Alzheimer's during his second term and was manipulated by Pentagon neocons in spite of Nancy --- but Watson's piece is must-read material for freedom-loving Americans of all political persuasions.

The link is Watson article

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Let's Ask Flathead About The Ruling Elite
Posted by: eddie torres on Apr 28, 2007 11:20 AM   
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Sentence #1 in Tom Friedman's "The Power Of Green" from April 15: "One day Iraq, our post-9/11 trauma and the divisiveness of the Bush years will all be behind us..."

Patriotic Cheerleader Comrade Number 1, aka Flathead, got it all wrong on Iraq, admitted it (4 years late), and quickly changed the topic to "Let's Make Wall Street Look Good."

How? Wal-Mart is Flathead's new best friend. Because Friedman's "Green: The New Red, White and Blue" documentary (read: corporate puff piece) on The Discovery Channel spends 90% of its time touting new Green Ways To Shop At Wal-Mart and the other 10% explaining why future US energy production must change from Dirty centralized corporate controlled technology to Green centralized corporate controlled technology.

Tom Friedman: "Well, I want to rename 'green.' I want to rename it geostrategic, geoeconomic, capitalistic and patriotic."

Thank you, Comrade Friedman, for saving us from the old "Dirty Inc." propaganda and giving us your shiny new "Green Inc." propaganda. Now that "green" has been renamed, the people who count can get busy profiting on it.

See Friedman's "The Power Of Green", and Jim Kunstler's critique "Tom Friedman: apologist for the faux enviros".

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From Papal Indulgences to Carbon Credits Is Global Warming a Sin?
Posted by: rwa on Apr 28, 2007 11:21 AM   
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A. COCKBURN

...historians will be comparing the frenzies over our supposed human contribution to global warming to the tumults at the latter end of the tenth century as the millennium approached. Then, as now, the doomsters identified human sinfulness as the propulsive factor in the planet's rapid downward slide..

There is still zero empirical evidence that anthropogenic production of CO2 is making any measurable contribution to the world's present warming trend. The greenhouse fearmongers rely entirely on unverified, crudely oversimplified computer models to finger mankind's sinful contribution. Devoid of any sustaining scientific basis, carbon trafficking is powered by guilt, credulity, cynicism and greed, just like the old indulgences..


I met Dr. Martin Hertzberg... on a Nation cruise back in 2001. He remarked that while he shared many of the Nation's editorial positions, he approved of my reservations on the issue of supposed human contributions to global warming. Hertzberg was a meteorologist, an occupation which gave him a lifelong mistrust of climate modeling.

Hertzberg sent me some of his recent papers on the global warming hypothesis, a construct now accepted by many progressives as infallible as Papal dogma.

..the carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere has increased about 21 per cent in the past century. The world has also been getting just a little bit warmer. The not very reliable data on the world's average temperature (which omit most of the world's oceans and remote regions, while over-representing urban areas) show about a 0.5Co increase in average temperature between 1880 and 1980, and it's still rising, more sharply in the polar regions than elsewhere. But is CO2, at 380 parts per million in the atmosphere, playing a significant role in retaining the 94 per cent of solar radiation that's absorbed in the atmosphere, as against water vapor, also a powerful heat absorber, whose content in humid tropical atmosphere, can be as high as 2 per cent, the equivalent of 20,000 ppm. As Hertzberg says, water in the form of oceans, clouds, snow, ice cover and vapor "is overwhelming in the radiative and energy balance between the earth and the sun." And water is exactly that component of the earth's heat balance that the global warming computer models fail to account for.

The Greenhousers deal with other difficulties like the medieval warming period's higher-than-today's temperatures by straightforward chicanery, misrepresenting tree-ring data (themselves an unreliable guide) and claiming the warming was a local, insignificant European affair.

We're warmer now, because today's world is in the thaw following the last Ice Age. Ice ages correlate with changes in the solar heat we receive, all due to predictable changes in the earth's elliptic orbit round the sun, and in the earth's tilt. In past postglacial cycles, as now, the earth's orbit and tilt gives us more and longer summer days between the equinoxes.

Water covers 71 per cent of the surface of the planet. As compared to the atmosphere, there's at least a hundred times more CO2 in the oceans, dissolved as carbonate. As the postglacial thaw progresses the oceans warm up, and some of the dissolved carbon emits into the atmosphere, just like fizz in soda water taken out of the fridge. "So the greenhouse global warming theory has it ass backwards," Hertzberg concludes. "It is the warming of the earth that is causing the increase of carbon dioxide and not the reverse." Several new papers show that for the last three quarter million years CO2 changes always lag global temperatures by 800 to 2,600 years.

.. the human carbon footprint is of zero consequence amid these huge forces and volumes, and that's not even to mention the role of the giant reactor beneath our feet: the earth's hot molten core.

counterpunch.org

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Can the Ruling Classes Save the World From Global Warming?
Posted by: pfm on Apr 28, 2007 12:08 PM   
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The question is NOT whether the so-called "ruling" class can save the world from global warming, but rather do "we" - that's you and me - choose to stand up and fight to make it a reality. The ruling class has but one objective, to dominate, separate, and rule.

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Elites are wealthy largely because of their control of energy sources
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 28, 2007 2:34 PM   
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Everyone, more or less, buys petroleum-sourced gas and pays an electricty bill, and most of that electricity is sourced to coal-fired power plants (at least in the US).

This is why renewables have been kept under wraps for over a century now - because if you can generate your own power from the sun and the wind, then there goes about 60% of Wall Street's profit.

Read http://www.internalcombustionbook.com/ for the best historical analysis of how this situation came to pass:

"Prodigious Research, Ugly Truth. Conventional wisdom says that Americans addicted themselves to oil and that the free market gives people the energy sources and technologies they most desire. Edwin Black proves that the truth is uglier. Based on prodigious research deep into the historical record, Black demonstrates that power-hungry despots, avaricious monopolists, and bottom-line obsessed corporate oligarchs have long done their best to control where we get our energy and how we use it. To better understand how we got where we are today and how we can make better energy choices in the future, read this page-turner - David Farber, author"

The science behind global warming is very sound - see sites like http://www.realclimate.org/ for the details. Fossil fuel CO2 traps infrared heat and thus raises the planet's surface temperature. You want to slow global warming, you have to stop using fossil fuels, and the vested interests are paying public relations firms like Edelman (recipient of $100 million in funds from the American Petroleum Institute) to run massive propaganda campaigns that are identical to those run by the tobacco corporations a few years ago (scroll up for some examples!).

However, these PR attempts are well-documented, and they will serve as the basis for massive climate damage lawsuits against the likes of ExxonMob and Barclays UK.

That's a bit trivial, compared to the need to slow global warming - and the only way to do that is to stop burning coal, period. The electrical utilities and their Wall Street controllers are fighting as hard as they can to prevent this from happening, but that's what needs to be done.

As a good first step, help the Navajo people stop the construction of the Desert Rock coal power plant...

Leonardo Dicaprio, Al Gore and Sheryl Crow should spend less time at Washington dinners with Karl Rove and more time in Navajo country.

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Ontario approves massive solar farm
Posted by: lessbread on Apr 28, 2007 6:39 PM   
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Ontario approves massive solar farm

The Ontario government has approved a California company's plan to build North America's largest photovoltaic solar farm, the provincial energy ministry announced Thursday.

OptiSolar Farms Canada Inc. of Arthur, Ont. — a subsidiary of California-based OptiSolar Inc. — will install more than one million solar panels at four farms outside Sarnia, Ont., providing the province with 40 megawatts of power by 2010. Ontario Energy Minister Dwight Duncan said that's enough to power 6,000 homes.

OptiSolar will be paid 42 cents a kilowatt-hour for the solar power generated, a much higher premium than the 11 cents a kilowatt-hour paid for wind power, another source of "green" energy in which the province has invested.

The project would be the largest in North America using photovoltaic solar cells, which collect energy from the sun's rays and convert it into electricity.

It's also larger than any other existing solar-cell plant in the world, although a number of projects underway would surpass or equal its size. Construction of a 40-megawatt project in Germany is already underway, and last fall, the Australian government announced funding for a proposed 154-megawatt solar power plant to be built in Victoria state and expected to be fully operational by 2013.

Power plants using solar energy and operated in the Mojave Desert generate more than 300 megawatts of power, but those plants are powered through solar thermal energy, a different form of power generation that collects the sun's rays and uses them to heat a liquid that then acts to produce electricity.

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The Article should have started on Page 3.
Posted by: KeepsonTickn on Apr 28, 2007 7:39 PM   
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Resource depletion and carbon emissions are two great human disasters rolled up into one. We are robbing future generations of valuable resources while we poison the atmosphere with waste gases. I know of only one solution that has a chance of working in the real world, and that is a carbon tax. Everything else is smoke and mirrors. That is why it was so refreshing to read page three of this article.

The total failure of CAFE standards to improve fuel economy (and thus to reduce emissions) for the last 20 years is an excellent example of what doesn't work. What did have a dramatic effect was the high prices of the late 70s and early 80s (while they lasted.) For a chart and a brief article see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Average_Fuel_Economy
A carbon tax will work for the same reason, as long as it is designed to win popular support, and avoid politicization.

To work politically the carbon tax must be completely revenue neutral and obviously unbiased. It could be made revenue neutral by taxing carbon at its source (or at the port), then distributing the ENTIRE tax revenue to the populace on a per capita basis. Alaska currently distributes oil revenue dividends to its citizens in this manner. This would provide a carrot along with the stick, and individuals would be rewarded for carbon-frugal behavior on a truly fair and equal basis. This should pass muster with fair-taxers as well. I would call it the Fair Carbon Tax.

The carbon tax could be "dialed-in" for desired results, and the results could be easily interpreted. It could also be applied immediately on the national level without world consensus. I would also argue that the carbon tax distributions would help stabilize the economy.

Thanks also to Doug Henwood for mentioning the Carbon Tax Center (http://www.carbontax.org)

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phill Parsons
Posted by: phill Parsons on Apr 28, 2007 7:52 PM   
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The rich cannot insulate themselves from the impacts of the sort of climate the 'business as usual' scenario end game results in, these extremes will impact on all.

They can of course avoid the early impacts, as they are doing now, whilst the poor have less purchasing power to cope with same.

The rich are not stupid and will attempt to avoid self harm, including to their sources of wealth.

As the harm of further dangerous climate change becomes clearer, through the evidence based study of the climatologists, only hard core deniers will remain opposied to action and thus will erode their own wealth base if they are also rich, as new technologies generate wealth whilst the high carbon sources are hit by the cost of change.

The impacts of dangerous climate change will even dawn on China and India and their emerging wealthy.

The interesting point about the changes needed, if they are comprehensive, effective and timely and thus reach a sustainable relationship with the carbon cycle is, will that also sustain the laisse-faire distribution system of wealth.

The rich never move from the status quo without some presssure, sometimes from within society and occasionally from without.

This time there is a very limited course open and they will either realize the need to lead or be forced to follow by the instinct of self preservation.

However, success in avoiding further dangerous climate change is not guaranteed and the delays that the rich and powerful can cause may also cost them all.

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What is the truth about Climate Change? by Laura Knight - Jadczyc
Posted by: rwa on Apr 28, 2007 8:38 PM   
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Channel 4 recently broadcast a special on the "Climate Change Swindle," that was intended to "expose the myths about climate change that have been promulgated in order to hoodwink the world into accepting the man-made theory of global warming."

As it happens, one of the experts included in the presentation has now announced that he was badly mis-quoted, or quoted out of context, and he is back-pedaling like mad.

... let's look at this little debacle a bit more closely.

independent.co.uk:
Expert in oceanography quoted in Channel 4's debunking of Global Warming says he was 'seriously misrepresented'

Professor Carl Wunsch, professor of physical oceanography at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology said he had been "completely misrepresented" by the programme, and "totally misled" on its content. He added that he is considering making a formal complaint.

A Channel 4 spokesman said: "The film was a polemic that drew together the well-documented views of a number of respected scientists to reach the same conclusions. This is a controversial film but we feel that it is important that all sides of the debate are aired. If one of the contributors has concerns about his contribution we will look into that."

Professor Wunsch said: "I am angry because they completely misrepresented me. My views were distorted by the context in which they placed them. I was misled as to what it was going to be about. I was told about six months ago that this was to be a programme about how complicated it is to understand what is going on. If they had told me even the title of the programme, I would have absolutely refused to be on it. I am the one who has been swindled."


Comment: Here we see the professor's point: that it is not so simple as being ALL human caused, nor is it totally non-human caused. His point is how COMPLICATED the subject is.

When told what the commission had found, he said: "That is what happened to me." He said he believes it is "an almost inescapable conclusion" that "if man adds excess CO2 to the atmosphere, the climate will warm".


Comment: Notice here that Prof. Wunsch is not saying that human caused CO2 is the major factor.

He went on: "The movie was terrible propaganda. It is characteristic of propaganda that you take an area where there is legitimate dispute and you claim straight out that people who disagree with you are swindlers. That is what the film does in any area where some things are subject to argument."


Comment: Notice that Prof. Wunsch is here saying that there IS legitimate dispute about what causes global warming.

Mr Durkin last night said that Professor Wunsch was "most certainly not duped into appearing into the programme" and that it "had not in any way misrepresented what he said".


Comment: Now we come to the propaganda and damage control:

The cold, hard facts about global warming

What do most scientists believe caused global warming?


Comment: Notice how the question is phrased: using the terms "most" and "believe." The word "most" is quite misleading, though "believe" is pretty much right on; has nothing to do with facts and data.


Adding even the so far relatively small amounts from human activities makes us warmer.


Comment: This is where we find the major dispute. It is clear that the amount of CO2 emissions that are produced by human beings in our time do not anywhere come close to the volumes of CO2 emissions that have been produced at other periods of history that did NOT result in Global Warming. So the human factor is very much in question.

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Posted by: rwa on Apr 28, 2007 8:40 PM   
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Has the world warmed before?

Yes, and big warmings over prehistoric times were not started by increasing CO2 levels; changes in solar activity are more likely.


Comment: There is clear evidence of other warmings that were definitely related to increasing CO2 levels that were precipitated by solar activity and OTHER causes. It is disingenuous to suggest that other warmings were not related to rising CO2 levels.

Levels of the gas started rising some 800 years into the warming, but then probably reinforced it, making it bigger and longer. Temperature and CO2 are interdependent; when one goes up the other follows. This time it is different because vast amounts of the gas are being artificially put into the atmosphere by humans.


Comment: So, they clarify here, just to cover their behinds, but that doesn't excuse the preceding twist. As it happens, the current "global warming" spell is following this same pattern. Nothing new here.

What about more recent history?

There was a warm period in Europe in the Middle Ages, again probably caused by solar activity, but it does not seem to have been a worldwide phenomenon, although records are scanty.


Comment: What a load of horse hockey! How easy it is to say "it doesn't appear to have been worldwide" when the records are scanty. And again notice that the cycle was related to the Sun. But NOW, of course, the determination has been made to blame it on strictly human activity no matter what, and that is what this writer seems to be doing.

So is the sun responsible now?

Some sceptics say so and probably it played the major role until quite recently. But over the past three decades, solar activity has scarcely risen, while temperatures have shot up - a fact disguised in the film. What has gone up is CO2 and even top sceptic Nigel Lawson admits it is "highly likely" that the gas has "played a significant part" in global warming this century.


Comment: Notice how cleverly the writer says "Some sceptics say so" instead of saying "many EXPERTS say so" and "probably it played a major role until quite recently." What a load of hooey.

There are quite a few experts - and considerable data to back it up - who are saying that the solar activity HAS increased. To back this up, it is pointed out that nearly every other planet in our solar system is ALSO experiencing Global Warming.

So, who is swindling who?


Now, let's look at Prof. Wunsch's actual comments:

Partial Response to the London Channel 4 Film "The Great Global Warming Swindle"
Carl Wunsch 11 March 2007

I believe that climate change is real, a major threat, and almost surely has a major human-induced component.


Comment: Notice here that Prof. Wunsch says, very carefully, that Climate Change (notice he doesn't even use the term "Global Warming,") "almost surely" - that is to say, it's not a fact established by any hard data - "has a major human-induced component." That is to say, there is a lot more to Climate Change than human activity, though he BELIEVES that component might be major - "almost surely." ALMOST.

But I have tried to stay out of the "climate wars" because all nuance tends to be lost, and the distinction between what we know firmly, as scientists, and what we suspect is happening, is so difficult to maintain in the presence of rhetorical excess.


Comment: Here Prof. Wunsch is making the very careful point that what scientists know firmly and what they suspect are two very different things. And indeed, the rhetoric in the media, driven by political agendas, is quite excessive, particularly relating to the human element relating to "Global Warming."

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