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Are Big Enviro Groups 'Holding Back' Anti-Warming Movement?

By Megan Tady, The NewStandard. Posted March 19, 2007.


While the U.S. government and some corporations are finally acknowledging global climate change, some critics say partnering with such forces may "tame" the movement's goals and strategies.
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The heat is on environmental groups and politicians to churn out proposals for stabilizing the planet's rising temperatures, but some environmentalists say existing plans to cool climate change are timid. Their criticism reveals a rift between two approaches: preserving the American way of life at the expense of quicker solutions, or changing the structure of US society to counter an unprecedented threat.

The dominant approach to human-induced global warming revolves around slow but dramatic reductions in greenhouse-gas emissions by mid-century. The mainstream environmental community, along with a handful of politicians and corporations, is calling for various regulations and market-based actions to reduce greenhouse-gas output by 60 to 80 percent over the next 43 years.

This goal is based on what some scientists have estimated the United States needs to do to help the world limit the rise in global temperatures to less than two degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels. The goal presupposes that some climate change is inevitable. In 2006, a government-commissioned report in the United Kingdom called the "Stern Review" said that the "worst impacts of climate change can be substantially reduced" by cutting greenhouse emissions to meet the two-degree goal.

Even if climate warming is kept to two-degrees or lower, the report said there will still be "serious impacts" on "human life and on the environment." For instance, the report predicted the disappearance of drinking water in the South American Andes and parts of Southern Africa and the Mediterranean, up to 10 million people affected by yearly coastal flooding, and 10 to 40 percent of species on Earth going extinct. "They're really holding the whole movement back by setting their sights so low."

Noting that "2050 is a long time away," David Morris, vice president of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance, said he wants to see action right away. "So what I want to know is, what are [environmental groups and politicians] going to do tomorrow?"

Morris and others who want to see more-immediate and deeper action fear such incremental changes are downplaying the urgency of the situation. "They're really holding the whole movement back by setting their sights so low," said Brian Tokar, Biotechnology Project director at the Institute for Social Ecology in Vermont.

Market-based solutions

The basic premise behind long-term plans for emissions reduction is that moving away from a fossil-fuel-based energy system will take time because market forces will take a while to make renewable technology prices competitive.

"It's still possible that we can avoid dangerous climate change and cut emissions in half by mid-century through a process that doesn't require an immediate shutdown of all of our coal-powered plants," said John Coequyt, Greenpeace energy policy analyst. "We can still do this in a phased -- and as a result -- economically beneficial manner."

"There's no reason we can't get there within the next five to ten years with significant funding."

In January, Greenpeace published what it called a "blueprint for solving global warming." The plan calls for 80 percent of electricity to be produced from renewable energy, 72 percent less carbon dioxide emissions, and for the US's oil use to be cut in half -- all by 2050.

The timeline is based on removing the market barriers to green energy, while making dirty energy more expensive. It does not call for significant public funding of renewable energy or government investments in new energy infrastructure or public transportation.

Tokar dismissed the 2050 timeline, saying the US could cut greenhouse-gas emissions more quickly if pressure groups took a different stance and instead called for immediate government intervention.

"The only thing that can change it is a significant investment in public funds to really jumpstart the industry," Tokar said. "There's no reason we can't get there within the next five to ten years with significant funding."

Coequyt of Greenpeace agreed with Tokar that the United States could reach emissions-reduction goals sooner if not for the perceived need to depend primarily on the market to make renewable energy the best choice for consumers.

"That's definitely the case; we could see faster action," Coequyt said. "It's hard for us to be a lot faster than what we put in our scenario, but if the government made it a true national priority, I don't think there's any doubt that we could go faster."

Despite this admission, Greenpeace is not pushing for the government to get heavily involved in funding and distributing renewable energy, but instead promotes weaker reforms like removing subsidies for fossil-fuel industries and forcing prices to reflect the actual costs of environmental damage. To reduce market barriers faced by clean-energy technology, Greenpeace advocates offering producers of sustainable power priority access to the electricity grid and reducing the governmental red tape that inhibits their startup.


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Forbes on *_An Inconveniant Truth_*: An Astounding Fantasy
Posted by: mythman on Mar 19, 2007 1:23 PM   
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"THE ACADEMY AWARDS CEREMONY MAY HAVE HAILED AL GORE as a prophetic hero, but history will treat him as the personification of an incredible delusion..."

The article describes some of Gore's "Green socialism." And (whether you're talking about carbon-emissions or something else) "near as anyone can figure, the Earth's surface temperature increased 1 degree Fahrenheit in the 20th century."

"Models used to predict [hot-hot-hot] futures have been unable to predict past weather-patterns." I understand that these big-companies' polluting the air is making it less usable for our children, -their children and -their children's children, but I'm not polluting ... that's the best I can really do.

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Combat Global Warming
Posted by: aspiration9179 on Mar 19, 2007 4:35 PM   
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There are a couple of things in this global warming debate that get far too little attention, as far as I'm concerned. Reducing emissions and energy usage is not enough. There needs to be some serious discussion about reforestation - planting more trees!!! What is the problem? Too much CO2. How do we fix it? Increase the number of trees/plants/algae that convert CO2 into Oxygen instead of blithely ignoring the fact that unless we do something to restore the trees that we are still stripping from this planet on a daily basis to do things like blow our noses and wipe our bottoms, we're still going to have problems regardless of how much we cut emissions. The other thing we need to do is get serious about recycling. We are literally throwing away our future as we consume things once then stuff them in landfills or dump them in the ocean so we don't have to look at them anymore. These things are NOT trash ... they are RESOURCES people! If we harvest all of the recyclable materials that we're currently just dumping, and then mine the landfills for the resources that are there, I sincerely believe that we will find we don't need to strip the planet for resources anymore ... they're all just laying in dumps waiting for people to wake up! So YES, reduce emissions and encourage less consumption ... but don't forget RECYCLING and REFORESTATION!

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"Global Warming" caused by humans not based on sound science
Posted by: gellero on Mar 19, 2007 7:11 PM   
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The Dogma push by organizations with $$$$$$vested interests vis a vis human caused global warming is not on sound scientific footing.........check this out from the BBC
BBC on Global Warming

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oops
Posted by: gellero on Mar 19, 2007 7:22 PM   
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British, not BBC

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Oink, oink, oink, fart, oink, fart: that's not an organic pig, but an environmental 'activist'
Posted by: Bobsays on Mar 20, 2007 12:52 AM   
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Since 1990 it has been a blur. An endless round of globe trotting hopping from one conference to the next. All the interns and idealistic students you have slept with, all the consultancy on hundreds and hundreds a day. And now the money shot is coming: the big cash in. Now green is really trendy, and the government agrees it has to be done in the most capitalistic way possible, it is time to make mucho moola.

But while green 'activists/lobbyists' are lording it like never before, it is worth reflecting on their personal behaviour and morals and ethics. Are they really up to the challenge of re-engineering society? Are they really honest?

I don't think so.

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LifeStyle Dictators
Posted by: edith on Mar 20, 2007 1:14 AM   
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If you want to really slow down the reduction of carbon emissions, then make the conversion to non-carbon fuels a lifestyle jihad like the Vermont activist seems to advocate. If there is one thing that the American people will not accept, and that includeds preaching austerity to reduce warming, it is telling them they must stop driving, stop eating what they want to eat and stop living in buildings they want to live in. Americans like to save money. Raise the prices of inefficient technologies, and they will convert to cheaper alternatives. But don't expect them to adopt a hippie, hemp lifestyle that they have basically rejected for the past 40 years.

Do Americans care about future generations? No they don't. So make it expensive to consume petroleum and other carbon products in the near future. In other words, make this generation begin the conversion to non-carbon fuels and materials for selfish reasons. The average American could care less if the Andes has less water or if more Africans starve. Most Americans have no vision whatsoever of a prosperous Africa or Third World, nor do most Americans(including Third World refugees) care if the Third World simple died and vanished tomorrow.

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» RE: LifeStyle Dictators Posted by: richholland
Bill McKibben
Posted by: ClarkKent on Mar 20, 2007 4:57 AM   
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The writer might have noted that McKibben is a supporter of Cape Wind's corporate privatization of Nantucket Sound as well as having stated that nuclear power needs to be part of the mix. Such positions put him in the same camp with the mainstream enviros who seem unwilling to tackle lifestyle change or put way more emphasis on REAL conservation.

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And Forbes had it nailed on the Iraq war too. Remember?
Posted by: KeepsonTickn on Mar 20, 2007 5:44 AM   
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Global warming denial is just another Bush policy that Forbes is hawking.

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Climate Campaign Is a Diversion; Real Danger Is Financial Meltdown
Posted by: rwa on Mar 20, 2007 6:54 AM   
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by Helga Zepp-LaRouche chairwoman of the Civil Rights Solidarity Movement (BüSo) in Germany.


The population is currently being conditioned with a dramatic fear-campaign, to get them to accept a massive shrinking of their living standards and civil rights—and ultimately a different world order. Governments, the media, and "objective" scientists are speaking as if in lockstep, since the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report on Feb. 7 provided the opening shot for the coordinated campaign for a paradigm-shift: to address the man-made climate catastrophe, the poor polar bears, who are swimming all alone toward the last ice floes in a warmed-up North Sea, and the "fact" that our "planet only has 13 years left." And Environment Minister Sigmar Gabriel tries with some success to appear as weighty as Al Gore, and, according to Welt online, demands a "leader of the world."

While this panic-mongering affects the short-term memory of the citizen ("I was just in the Alps, where there was really no snow!"), on account of the fact that the very cold Winter and snow-catastrophe of last year has already been forgotten, the real drama is playing out on another stage. The disintegration of the global financial system, which has now convulsed various sections of the markets as a result of the unwinding of the yen carry trade, is unstoppable. The collapse of the American real estate market, especially in the realm of the subprime mortgages, due to the market-dominant role of the hedge funds, can lead to a crash of the system. The environmental hysteria is supposed to create a menacing situation in order to force through dictatorial measures in the resulting chaos...

Enter the Climate Hoax

Against this background, the climate catastrophe campaign is exposed as an effort by the investment banks and the hedge funds to find a new region for mega-profits, through creating a new bubble. Al Gore, who had sunk, discredited, into oblivion, due to his ineffective Presidential campaign as a stirrup-holder for George W. Bush, is now everywhere with his anti-scientific documentary and lectures in front of companies and hedge funds, in order to promote the CO2 emissions credit trade as a source of superprofits. What many of his green supporters don't know, is that Gore himself has been a hedge-fund manager since 2001. Gore was the proxy chairman of Metropolitan West Financial LLL (Metwest), whose chairman was junk-bond swindler Michael Milken, who was jailed for insider trading. In 2004, Gore and David Blood, previously the chairman of the board of Goldman Sachs Asset Management (aka "Blood & Gore"), founded the London Fund "Generation Investment Fund," which is itself massively active in the CO2 emissions credits trade.

"The real subject of what's going on, is the booming emissions trade," wrote the Daily Telegraph on March 14. "Gore recognized a trend that CO2 emissions certificates trading would be the hottest business." The Telegraph reported on the fact that the biggest investment banks in the world have plunged into this market, which is centered, by the way, primarily in London. Gore, who has been an official advisor to the British government on climate questions since 2006, promised about 2,000 companies that are involved in the emissions trade at a conference in Copenhagen, that he would turn the 2008 Presidential campaign in the U.S.A. into a campaign for climate change.

Therefore, all the more important is the documentary produced by the British Channel 4, with the title "The Great Global Warming Swindle," which takes up many of the scientific counter-arguments against the allegedly man-made climate catastrophe, and traces the beginnings of this campaign to the Thatcher Era. This film is an absolute must for anyone who is concerned with this subject.

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» Important contribution Posted by: rwa
Caution urged on climate 'risks' By Pallab Ghosh Science correspondent, BBC News
Posted by: rwa on Mar 20, 2007 7:06 AM   
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Two leading UK climate researchers say some of their peers are "overplaying" the global warming message and risk confusing the public about the threat.
Professors Paul Hardaker and Chris Collier, both Royal Meteorological Society figures, are voicing their concern at a conference in Oxford.

They say some researchers make claims about possible future impacts that cannot be justified by the science.

The pair believe this damages the credibility of all climate scientists.

Both men hold the mainstream view on climate change - that human activity is the cause.

But they think catastrophism and the "Hollywoodisation" of weather and climate only work to create confusion in the public mind.

They argue for a more sober and reasoned explanation of the uncertainties about possible future changes in the Earth's climate.

I've no doubt that global warming is occurring, but we don't want to undermine that case by crying wolf, Professor Chris Collier

As an example, they point to a recent statement from one of the foremost US science bodies - the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS).

The association released a strongly worded statement at its last annual meeting in San Francisco in February which said: "As expected, intensification of droughts, heatwaves, floods, wildfires, and severe storms is occurring, with a mounting toll on vulnerable ecosystems and societies.

"These events are early warning signs of even more devastating damage to come, some of which will be irreversible."

According to Professors Hardaker and Collier, this may well turn out to be true, but convincing evidence to back the claims has not yet emerged.

"It's certainly a very strong statement," Professor Collier told BBC News.

"I suspect it refers to evidence that hurricanes have increased as a result of global warming; but to make the blanket assumption that all extreme events are increasing is a bit too early yet."

A former president of the Royal Meteorological Society, Professor Collier is concerned that the serious message about the real risks posed by global warming could be undermined by making premature claims.

"I think there is a good chance of that," he said. "We must guard against that - it would be very damaging.

"I've no doubt that global warming is occurring, but we don't want to undermine that case by crying wolf."

This view is shared by Professor Hardaker, the society's chief executive.


"Organisations have been guilty of overplaying the message," he says.

"There's no evidence to show we're all due for very short-term devastating impacts as a result of global warming; so I think these statements can be dangerous where you mix in the science with unscientific assumptions."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/6460635.stm

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All you need to know about the GW kooks
Posted by: neddelux on Mar 20, 2007 8:54 AM   
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Here are the salient quotes from this article, that tell you all you need to know about why GW has become such a big issue for these enviro groups,

"There's no reason we can't get there within the next five to ten years with significant funding."

"The only thing that can change it is a significant investment in public funds to really jumpstart the industry," Tokar said. "There's no reason we can't get there within the next five to ten years with significant funding."

Hmmmmm,I wonder who is going to get a large chunk of that funding......I just can't imagine.....Who could possibly have a vested intrest in keeping the GW hysteria alive????

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How far off is the next ice age? By Carolyn Fry
Posted by: rwa on Mar 20, 2007 11:57 AM   
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With global warming taking centre stage in the climate change debate, the idea that Earth might be heading towards an ice age seems outdated.

Yet scientists studying microfossils from deep-sea cores have discovered that we may still have much to learn about the cycles of ice advance and retreat that have affected Earth for a million years.

Periods of ice advance are known as glacials, while the warm periods are known as interglacials.

In the past, it was thought all interglacial periods lasted for around 11,000 years, in line with Earth's natural orbital cycle around the Sun, but new findings show events on the planet's surface may also influence the timing of ice advances and retreats.

It is important that we understand these natural climatic rhythms as our current interglacial has lasted 11,500 years and could potentially end at any time.

Although the current human-induced high levels of carbon dioxide (CO2) in our atmosphere are thought to be unprecedented in the recent geological record, some scientists argue that it's possible the changes we are making by pumping CO2 into the atmosphere could ultimately help usher in the next ice age.

"There are operations within the climate system that we still don't fully understand," explains Professor Chronis Tzedakis, from Leeds University, UK...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4081541.stm

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As in an Aristotelian drama, we are faced with a character-defining choice
Posted by: BobbyGreyFriar on Mar 20, 2007 9:48 PM   
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I think that solving GCC, if that is even possible, is an objective in direct and irreconcilable conflict with any kind of capitalist interest (just like labor, and virtually every other important issue). If by some miracle the problem is dealt with whist capitalism remains intact, it will only be in spite of the 'capitalist paradigm' that it worked. Therefore, I think we have to be very hard-eyed about claims of companies ‘going green’. Now that this is a major issue, everyone (even Republicans soon) will make a pretense about being concerned. The question is: are they in fact taking action that is constant with the recommendations of experts? In the few cases that I’ve looked into they are not, and I suspect this is true in general. Ultimately this is a no-compromise issue—i.e., either we take drastic action (both personally and politically) or we collectively buy into a comforting delusion for as long as we can; eventually, however, we all will face the stubborn facts regardless. This is one case where the truth really will ‘out’ in the end.

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