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Election 2008

McCain Uses His Big Speech to Give Us a Tour of His Vietnamese Prison Cell

By David Corn, MotherJones.com. Posted September 5, 2008.


Number of sentences in John McCain's RNC speech about being a POW in Vietnam: 43. Number about his 25 years in the House and Senate: 8.
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Number of sentences in John McCain's acceptance speech about his experience as a POW in Vietnam: 43.

Number of sentences about his 25 years in the House and Senate: 8.

The convention ended as it began: a commemoration of McCain's hellish years in a Hanoi prison cell four decades ago. The political equation was a simple one: POW equals patriotic hero equals a fighting president. Before McCain walked down the long runway at St. Paul's Xcel Center, a baritone voice declared over the P.A., "When you've lived in a box .... you put your people first." Case closed.

But there was a speech to get through. And before McCain arrived at the climactic I-was-a-POW finale, he delivered, in wooden style, a no-better-than-par speech that was mostly a series of traditional GOP buzz phrases: lower taxes, cut spending, open markets. He noted, "We believe in a strong defense, work, faith, service, a culture of life, personal responsibility, the rule of law, and judges who dispense justice impartially and don't legislate from the bench. We believe in the values of families, neighborhoods and communities." (Just not community organizers.) Was the speechwriter who penned Sarah Palin's acceptance speech too busy to work on McCain's?

Unlike most speakers at the convention, McCain acknowledged that some Americans are facing tough times. "I fight for Bill and Sue Nebe from Farmington Hills, Michigan, who lost their real estate investments in the bad housing market," he said. "Bill got a temporary job after he was out of work for seven months. Sue works three jobs to help pay the bills." And he said he would fight for Jake and Toni Wimmer of Franklin County, Pennsylvania. "Jake," he explained, "works on a loading dock; coaches Little League, and raises money for the mentally and physically disabled. Toni is a schoolteacher, working toward her Master's Degree. They have two sons, the youngest, Luke, has been diagnosed with autism." But how would McCain help these folks? Moments later, he offered a dumbed-down version of his economic plan: " I will keep taxes low and cut them where I can. My opponent will raise them. I will open new markets to our goods and services. My opponent will close them. I will cut government spending. He will increase it." (By the way, many analysts and journalists have repeatedly noted that Obama's economic plan would cut income taxes far more than McCain for Americans below the top 1 percent.)

Over and over, McCain cited his love of country and his dedication to the nation that "saved" him. He tried to present himself as the candidate of change, who wants to transform "almost everything: from the way we protect our security to the way we compete in the world economy; from the way we respond to disasters to the way we fuel our transportation network; from the way we train our workers to the way we educate our children." (He did not explain why after eight years of a Republican administration the country needs so much change.) McCain reminded the GOP delegates that he has on occasion challenged his own party. His domestic policy ideas, the few he offered, did not rouse the crowd -- except when he called for more oil and gas drilling. In response, the delegates once again enthusiastically chanted, "Drill, baby, drill!" It was one of the biggest shout-outs of the night. The audience was notably silent when McCain called for boosting alternative energy sources.

Maverick, fighter, fixer -- McCain said he was all of that. But, above all, he was McCain the warrior who had returned home. He had fought for the country once before -- and he had suffered. He will fight for it again. "I have the record and the scars to prove it," he declared. "Senator Obama does not." Wave the bloody shirt.

McCain denounced the "constant partisan rancor that stops us from solving" the nation's problems. But this week McCain had commanded a convention that had reprised the standard GOP playbook of spin and fear. Speaker after speaker accused Barack Obama of plotting to raise taxes on middle-income voters. They portrayed Obama as weak, indecisive, inexperienced -- particularly concerning national security. On the final night, retired Lieutenant General Carol Mutter, denouncing Obama's stance on Iraq, told the delegates that the United States' "enemies don't talk about timelines for retreat." Yet the United States' ally in Iraq -- the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki -- has called for a timeline for withdrawing U.S. troops. (Whoops: reality.) Repeatedly, GOP speakers claimed that Obama is not a man who can handle evil. "We cannot afford a president who thinks you can negotiate with evil," proclaimed Representative Mary Fallin, an Oklahoma Republican. But didn't Ronald Reagan negotiate with the Evil Empire? On the first night of the convention, the delegates watched a tribute film to the late President Gerald Ford that celebrated his negotiation of an arms control treaty with the Soviets. (A onetime negotiator-with-evil, Henry Kissinger, was sitting in the V.I.P. section as Fallin spoke.)


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David Corn is the Washington bureau chief of Mother Jones and the co-author of Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War and is the author of The Lies of George W. Bush. He writes a blog at davidcorn.com.

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scallywag
Posted by: scallywag on Sep 5, 2008 1:02 AM   
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Why must a nation appropriate its integrity by suggesting that being held captive against ones will is symbiotic of heroism, patriotism?
Heroism means being able to make choices that reflect the integrity of the greater good of the society at large, and patriotism the love of all people and their beliefs no matter how different from yours.
To declare incestuously the desire for peace but to reiterate the wanton willingness to engage battle and not dialogue against our enemies is either sheer hyperbole for a frightened(and who made them frightened them after all....?) audience or the insidious green light to pick a fight and go on installing hegemony against fledging countries wishing from some degree of respite from US imperialist dogma, usurpation and the desire to create myths, indoctrinate fallacies (to go to war in Vietnam , a country 20 000 miles away to preserve our security....and let's not forget our freedom, forget about their freedom).
This election contest is a sham, OBAMA is not leveling with the constituency either, how can he when his corporate backers and the hegemony in play has already something playing on the turntable.
Mccain reminds me of Mcdonalds, that eating your good honest cheeseburger made here in the sweat shops of minimum $6 an hour sweatshop is good for you, almost fat free and a mark of patriotism.
Integrity requires making sacrifices with your will not being held against your will.
Thanks for the baloney John, but spare us from the humiliation and the 'maverick' notions, you're as maverick as a cheeseburger that's been served for the billionth time.....

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Republican Pathology
Posted by: socialpsych on Sep 5, 2008 1:37 AM   
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"The audience was notably silent when McCain called for boosting alternative energy sources."

This tells us a lot about the crazy, destructive irrationality of Republicans. They should know that alternative energy is a hot business opportunity that could make lots of people rich. But, no, they would rather "Drill, baby, drill." Jeesh.

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» RE: Republican Pathology Posted by: curiousone
» RE: epublican Pathology Posted by: willymack
GREAT Speech!!
Posted by: Prairie Waif on Sep 5, 2008 2:25 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
In it, McCain and his voice over told the "love story" of John and Cindy McCain. How in the spring of 1979 he was at a conferene in Hawaii and met Cindy and it was love at first sight; poor 1st wife, Carol, was still married to a starry-eyed Navy Captain in "puppy love" excitement of his gorgeous new girlfriend, Cindy!

Wasn't it sweet that the two true "soul mates" waited and got their marriage license shortly before Carol and John's divorce was final? See? That's family values, the ethics and personal character that is part of the reason we LOVE John McCain.

I loved how he talked security and never letting our military down because he has been in the military and knows "true patriotic love of country;" then forgot how he wasn't around for the new VA/GI benefits bill or how torture, including waterboarding went from something the prosecuted in the War Crimes trials to "enhanced interrogation?"



I'll choke the next person who proclaims, "I put country first not me" or speaks about " or "country first! We all KNOW they are applying for the only party/ people who loves their country. Lies and more lies.

Yup. I'S IS 8 more years of "straight talk" and then i in see how the Straight Talk Express" has swerved and wavered at ever opportunity.

Straight talk an common sense.

We mustn't forget what we think is "common sense" is to them another opportunity to capitalize by using it to make more money for THEM; after all, that is what

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» RE: GREAT Speech!! Posted by: john mont
» RE: GREAT Speech!! Posted by: pinnacle
» RE: GREAT Speech!! Posted by: pinnacle
» RE: GREAT Speech!! Posted by: Dboy
» RE: GREAT Speech!! Posted by: curiousone
» RE: GREAT Speech!! Posted by: willymack
» RE: GREAT Speech!! Posted by: curiousone
» RE: GREAT Speech!! Posted by: marchpet
Really Weary
Posted by: Naoma on Sep 5, 2008 2:43 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I am soooo weary of the "prisoner of war" saga.
WE KNOW, WE KNOW. Most young people today
were not even alive then and the rest of us have
heard of your GLORY DAYS in prison camp. GET
OVER IT. MOVE ON.

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» RE: eally Weary Posted by: LionHeart
» RE: eally Weary Posted by: brunowe
» RE: eally Weary Posted by: LionHeart
» RE: eally Weary Posted by: Naoma
» RE: eally Weary Posted by: LionHeart
» RE: eally Weary Posted by: ranchero42
» RE: eally Weary Posted by: Cynic13
» RE: eally Weary Posted by: LionHeart
» RE: eally Weary Posted by: Dboy
Worthy of the medals, but maybe not the office.
Posted by: LionHeart on Sep 5, 2008 2:48 AM   
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Whether or not it qualifies him for President, he does have an incredible story. I have rarely seen him talk about that in such detail. All those guys that went through that had some inner strength.

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» Moore - on Posted by: LionHeart
» RE: Moore - on Posted by: Knot_Rich
» RE: Moore - on Posted by: LionHeart
» There you go, again Posted by: TennMom
Kill them all
Posted by: solrev on Sep 5, 2008 4:04 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
no success has come without a good fight
I've fought
I've fought
I've fought
I've fought
I fought
I fought
I don't mind a good fight
I fight
I fight
I fight
I fight
I fight
I fight
I will fight
I'm going to fight
Fight with me
Fight
Fight
Fight
Fight
stand up and fight

Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God.

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» You're living in "Rome" Posted by: IntnsRed
» RE: right on Posted by: solrev
what a speech
Posted by: willd4change on Sep 5, 2008 4:49 AM   
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I was in awwwww as I yawned. To bad he didnt talk about any of the topics. My thumb was sore flipping back to the football game. He must be saving all his big stuff for the last few months of the election?

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» RE: what a speech Posted by: baad
There were thousands of POWs in that war
Posted by: rotorooter on Sep 5, 2008 5:20 AM   
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We were drafted and sent to Vietnam against our will.

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» RE: The quick and the dead Posted by: solrev
What else can be expected?
Posted by: Elmowilcox on Sep 5, 2008 5:20 AM   
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I saw a movie that closely relates to his rise to politicdom. Guy goes to military, guy has heroic service in a war, guy comes back to states where some other guy of relative importance and power helps him use his service to gain a political office. Can't remember the flick to save my life though.

When McCain came back from the war and moved to Arizona, he ran for office. In debate, the incumbent queried the audience.

(not exact quotes here)

"What does this man who has just come to the state know about the issues of the people of Arizona?"

Damn fine question.

McCain responded something to the effect..

"I do apologize I've not been here long, I've been in the Hanoi Hilton."

Wash, rinse, repeat..he's running for President. Americans are suckers for war heroes.

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» Heroism myth... Posted by: IntnsRed
» RE: Heroism myth... Posted by: Dboy
» RE: What else can be expected? Posted by: Knot_Rich
» RE: What else can be expected? Posted by: Mystery Cat
The Empire Strikes Back !
Posted by: Last Chance on Sep 5, 2008 5:45 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
So, who will provoke World War III, Bush in his last months in office, or McCain in his first?

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» RE: Money dictates war Posted by: nismx
» Made of brass! Posted by: LionHeart
» RE: Made of brass! Posted by: GrantBurkeVT
» RE: Made of brass! Posted by: Dboy
» If you live by... Posted by: bobtr900
So Mccain has nothing to highlight as success the last 8 years or his entire 26 yrs as Senator, so
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 5, 2008 6:13 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Like John Kerry did in 2004, he makes a big deal about his days "serving" in Vietnam but worse, he exploits it all the way. IOW, to us moderates, independents, liberals, and even reasonable conservatives sick and tired of wars and nation building via destruction, he says

"Just look at my 'honorable' record in Vietnam. Don't ask me about Iran. I suffered in Vietnam so I shall make all you losers suffer more by imprisoning you American LOSERS in Iraq for the next 100 years. I can be a Big Oil WHORE if I 'feel' like it and to hell with alternative renewables even though I may throw a bone or two at it."

Ask Senator Mccain about his so-called "Campaign Finance Reform" bill and he won't want to tell you the truth that as a result of the law, elections have become more costly, dirtier, and even PRIVATIZED for the corporate interests.

People, you cannot bring "democracy" to another country especially when there is none of it here at home ! Wake the FUCK up !!

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» Taxpayer-funded elections Posted by: WhuThe?!?
What the hell did you expect?
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Sep 5, 2008 6:14 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This clown has been "upped" by a nobody from Alaska that represents his only hope of getting elected. Palin has already been dubbed as the future of the GOP. Current state of the economy and foreign affairs? What, don't blame me....I'm still getting over the mistreatment administered by my captors. Now, I would be a helluva lot better off if I had been sentenced to that bastion of compassionate incarceration at Gitmo....but it didn't happen so let me figure out where I live and I'll get back to you....or Sarah will...or maybe Lieberman will...or...what did you say Lindsay? I got it, I got it, play dumb....works for me!

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A noun, a verb, and POW
Posted by: JoyMcGrath on Sep 5, 2008 6:26 AM   
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Sen. Biden can't say this because it would be dismissive of McCain's experience, and red meat for the right wing nuts. But, other than bashing Sen. Obama, this was the GOP convention theme. Giuliani's "vote for me because I was in a certain time at a certain place" logic was even more credible relative to our current issues than this same logic McCain is using. It does not speak to his judgement or wisdom. Yes, he lived through torture, but 30 years later he condones the use of torture, knowing that it produces falsehoods; admitting he lied under torture himself. And the fact that he has not supported legislation for increased funding for the care of our soldiers when they come home is an outrage!

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Questions left unanswered
Posted by: NYC Writer on Sep 5, 2008 7:01 AM   
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The essential question John McCain must be forced to answer during this campaign is, how would his administration differ from that of George Bush. His speech provided no insight into that.

We must all continue to press the question.

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Vietnam War-defending US?
Posted by: victor88 on Sep 5, 2008 7:15 AM   
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Isn't it ludicrous that "serving" in Vietnam is presented as defending the American way of life. Even if that absurd claim were true, doesn't anyone remember that the US lost the war?

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» RE: Vietnam War-defending US? Posted by: LionHeart
The Black Republicans
Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 5, 2008 7:19 AM   
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Lawdy! Lawdy! Did y'all see dem slap-happy Uncle Toms shufflin' 'cross the GOP podium during the convention?

Hee! Hee! Hee! Oh, Great White Father, you sho' is sly!

Seriously, I thought I was watching a tribute to Scatman Crothers. Please, when you have finished reading all of the great articles and comments on AlerNet, have a look at what I wrote this morning on that very subject. Here's a link:

The Black Republicans

Cheers!
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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» RE: By the way.... Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: By the way.... Posted by: LionHeart
A Face Like A Fat Lady's Ass
Posted by: Direct Democracy on Sep 5, 2008 7:22 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Noun, verb, “Tweety” McCain was a Viet Cong collaborator.

http://www.counterpunch.org/valentine06132008.html

FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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» RE: A Face Like A Fat Lady's Ass Posted by: GrantBurkeVT
Drill Baby Drill!
Posted by: whathappened on Sep 5, 2008 7:24 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
FIGHT
KILL
DRILL
BABY
DRILL
FIGHT
KILL
DRILL
BABY
DRILL
FIGHT
KILL
DRILL
BABY
DRILL
FIGHT
KILL
DRILL
BABY
DRILL

FIGHT KILL DRILL BABY DRILL

The Republicans support some really great policies based on high morals and ethics...what a plan...right?!?

Who wouldn't vote for all this hate and devestation?!?

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Has McPain got a Rehabilitation Cell picked out for you!
Posted by: williameon on Sep 5, 2008 7:31 AM   
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With one foot in the Grave and the other on
A Banana Peel
McPain sells a 100 year WAR!
What's with that?
And GUESS who's going to fight it?

Who does he work for?
The Energy-Military- (Propaganda) Media-Industrial-Schlock Market-Federal Reserve Banking-Complex!
Build a house and buy me two!
Saudi Princes, Corpirate
Foreign Interests and The
Ratschild Plague.
Rape and Pillage the Innocent for GREED!
In the name of GOD
Blasphemy!
BU__! SH__!
Been there and done that.
Send the Billionaires and Politicians first.
The WAR would end tomorrow and
GAS would drop by 50%!

It's magic time again.
Once every four years.
Gas is going down again as if by Magic.
By Selection Time it will be less then $2.50 a Gallon.
The Media Pontiffs will say the Poles are close.
There goes another one.
They're stealing it,
They're stealing it, again.
Black Boxes to the Resue!
Then it will shoot up to over $3 Dollars the next day.
What short term memory?
We can't afford it.
When you’re working three jobs with no health care, no Social Security, Home, Retirement, Education or Elderly Care.
As BUSH said,
"It’s Uniquely American"
Is this the American Dream.
It’s Johns!
McPain more of the Same!
What kind of ignorant dopes are we?
Vote for you and your family’s best interests instead of Rupert Murdock’s!
Rebuild America First!
Stop the War!
Bring the Militia Home
We need them here.
Why do we still have 100's of Military bases around the world while
A Dark Army is camped in San Diego’s back yard?

Withdraw and Rebuild America.

The Fix is in.
Soak the Poor working man again.
Billion Dollar Bail Outs for Bankers and Wall street.
None 4 U.
Billion Dollar Corporate Parachutes for CEO’s and
Trillions of Dollars in Corpirate Welfare!
None 4 U.
Is that fair?
Especially, when you’re paying for it.

Why should we sacrifice one Soldier for the promise of a BU__! SH__! college education that should be free?
Is it worth it?
Pie in the Sky is hard to swallow on an empty stomach.
Are you tired of eating it yet?
It's less filling!
Wake Up!
Wake Up!
Please.

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republican lexicon: "bipartisan"...
Posted by: lexicon on Sep 5, 2008 7:40 AM   
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McCain did two things. He said, "I'm the candidate of CHANGE". Hmmm...sounds vaguely familiar. Where have I HEARD that before?

Second, he promised to "end the partisan rancour" and work in a bi-partisan way.

I've heard that from a republican too...let's see if I can remember...OH yes, it was from GEORGE W BUSH. HE has been the most "bipartisan" president in our entire history.

That is, if you understand how he DEFINES "bipartisan". When "speaking republican", the word "bipartisan" means, "there are two sides to the issue, our side, and the wrong side. We use any and all means and procedure necessary to push our side, and any and all means and procedure necessary to force the other side to utterly capitulate."

So, when a REPUBLICAN says "bipartisan bill" what he MEANS in REAL ENGLISH is that:

The bill was written by a K Street lobbyist team...

The bill made it out of committee on a 12 republican yea, 11 democrat nay vote...

The bill was sandbagged with poison pill ammendments and earmarks from republican members...

The 2072 page bill was made available to the House members 2 hours before the scheduled vote...

The bill was voted for on a voice vote, and passed...the democrats demanded a roll call vote, and the result was 240 republican yea, 221 democrat nay...

The process was repeated in the senate...

The reconciliation committee for the bill was convened off-hours, off-site, and off-calendar, so unfortunately, no democrats showed up...

The final copy of the bill was available to the House and Senate 2 hours before the scheduled vote, and it was now inexplicably 14 pages longer than it had been the night before...

The filibuster threat by the democrats on the final vote was met by loud protestations from republicans, decrying the "utter lack of bipartisan spirit" in their democratic colleagues...

And the President signs the bill, which, incidentally, has a title that pretty much describes exactly OPPOSITE what the bill is for.

that about covers it.

lexicon

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