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8 More Shocking Revelations About Sarah Palin
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Yesterday AlterNet ran a piece titled "Top Ten Most Disturbing Facts and Impressions of Sarah Palin." And in only 24 hours, almost as many exaggerations, misrepresentations and outright lies have reared their ugly heads. If you already read yesterday's piece, here's the next installment:
1: Palin Tried to Ban Books From Local Library
Thanks to Bush, the Republican Party is not strongly associated with intellectualism. But Sarah Palin has apparently taken the conservative derision for book-learnin' to a whole new level: Time reports that as mayor of Wasilla, Palin asked the town librarian how to go about banning books from the local library. News reports from the time show that the librarian, who, strangely enough, was opposed to a tactic commonly employed by totalitarian regimes, had her job threatened for not giving her "full support" to the mayor.
The People for the American Way have issued a statement condemning Palin's actions and demanding an explanation from her:
People can disagree about a lot of things, but censorship is completely beyond the pale. Our democracy was founded on the belief that government shouldn't tell people what kinds of books to read or what kind of beliefs to hold. No one with that kind of history should be anywhere near the White House. Sarah Palin needs to clarify her stance on freedom of speech immediately, and John McCain needs to explain why he chose a running mate with so little regard for the Constitution.So far the McCain campaign has been quiet about Palin's attempts to legislate what books people should be allowed to read.
2: Palin Apparently Doesn't Put "Country First"
A central and integral part of the McCain campaign's message is "Country First." McCain is a POW who has always put country before personal gain, as he and his handlers have reminded the public time after time after time. So if the vetting process of Palin was as thorough as McCain's people (and McCain himself) have been claiming, how is it that they missed this:
Officials of the Alaskan Independence Party say that Palin was once so independent, she was once a member of their party, which since the 1970s has been pushing for a legal vote for Alaskans to decide whether or not residents of the 49th state can secede from the United States.
And while McCain's motto -- as seen in a new TV ad -- is "Country First," the AIP's motto is the exact opposite -- "Alaska First -- Alaska Always."
Lynette Clark, the chairman of the AIP, tells ABC News that Palin and her husband Todd were members in 1994, even attending the 1994 statewide convention in Wasilla. Clark was AIP secretary at the time.
"We are a state's rights party," Clark -- a self-employed gold miner -- tells ABC News. The AIP has "a plank that challenges the legality of the Alaskan statehood vote as illegal and in violation of United Nations charter and international law.""Alaska First -- Alaska Always." Huh, I don't suppose there's an unless-you-are-nominated-to-be-vice-president clause, is there? No, probably not.
3: Palin's Love Affair With Earmarks
McCain, when introducing Palin on Friday in Ohio, praised her as a champion for "reform to end the abuses of earmark spending." When it was Palin's turn to speak, she mentioned her claimed opposition to the famous pork barrel project, "the Bridge to Nowhere," as an example of her tough stance on earmarks. Well, we all know now that she was actually for the bridge long before she was against it. Apparently her love affair with earmarks doesn't end there:
… under her leadership, the state of Alaska has requested 31 earmarks worth $197.8 million in next year's federal budget …But hey, it was her first shot at being governor of Alaska. Maybe things were different when she was mayor?
As mayor of the small city of Wasilla, Alaska, Palin appears to have made use of the system she now decries, hiring a Washington lobbyist, Steven Silver, to represent the town.
After he was hired, the city obtained funding for several projects, including a city bus facility that received an earmark valued at $600,000 in 2002. That year a local water and sewer project received $1.5 million in federal earmarks, according to Taxpayers for Common Sense, a nonpartisan watchdog organization.Hmmm, Steven Silver, why does that name sound familiar? Talking Points Memo is quick to remind us:
… Silver appears to have additional ties that could further undercut Palin's image as a squeaky-clean reformer. According to Senate lobbying disclosure reports examined by TPMmuckraker, from 2002 to 2004 Silver listed as a client Jack Abramoff's lobbying firm, Greenberg Traurig. On Greenberg's behalf, Silver lobbied the federal government on "issues relating to Indian/Native American policy," "exploration for oil and gas" and "legislation relating to gaming issues" -- the very issues that Abramoff headed up for Greenberg at the time. In other words, Silver appears to have been a part of "Team Abramoff.So this is the breath of fresh air that McCain wants in Washington? Earmarks aplenty and links to the infamous Jack Abramoff? If that's a step in the right direction, I don't want to see the step in the wrong one.
4: Palin Slashed Funding for Teen Moms
Not many pregnant teens are as privileged as Bristol Palin. And for those who are not, Sarah Palin made things a little harder a few months ago when she used a line-item veto to cut funding for a transitional home for teen moms in Alaska. According to the Washington Post:
After the legislature passed a spending bill in April, Palin went through the measure reducing and eliminating funds for programs she opposed. Inking her initials on the legislation -- "SP" -- Palin reduced funding for Covenant House Alaska by more than 20 percent, cutting funds from $5 million to $3.9 million. Covenant House is a mix of programs and shelters for troubled youths, including Passage House, which is a transitional home for teenage mothers.
According to Passage House's Web site, its purpose is to provide "young mothers a place to live with their babies for up to eighteen months while they gain the necessary skills and resources to change their lives" and help teen moms "become productive, successful, independent adults who create and provide a stable environment for themselves and their families."(It certainly doesn't sound like the teen moms were joyriding in Cadillacs on the government's dime, but you never know.)
In classic "compassionate" conservative fashion, Palin opposes programs that teach girls how not to get pregnant, lobbies against their right to decide whether to have a child, then kills social programs that exist to cushion the impact of those policies. She then has the gall to trot out her own pregnant daughter as a symbol for "family values."
5: Crazy Reverend, Crazy Church
From the age of 12 and for most of her adult life, Sarah Palin attended the Wasilla Assembly of God. Apparently, Sarah Palin's God was a vengeful God -- one that made Himself helpful to the Bush administration from time to time by damning critics of the president, Democrats and other irredeemable sinners. The Huffington Post writes that the church's preacher, Ed Kalinins:
… preached that critics of President Bush will be banished to hell; questioned whether people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be accepted to heaven; charged that the 9/11 terrorist attacks and war in Iraq were part of a war "contending for your faith;" and said that Jesus "operated from that position of war mode."Kalinins also offered a nuanced view of foreign policy, preaching that 9/11 and the Iraq war were part of a greater struggle over Christianity, with Jesus playing an important role as a very exacting general:
"What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what's going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. … We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. … Jesus called us to die. You're worried about getting hurt? He's called us to die.It can't necessarily be assumed that Palin agrees wholeheartedly with her former pastor. But in an address to the church three months ago, Palin also used disconcertingly religious language to frame the conflict in Iraq:
"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending (U.S. soldiers) out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."Considering how much flak Obama got for the statements of his former pastor, Jeremiah Wright, this is an issue Palin needs to address.
6: McCain Picking Palin Reeks of Sexism
The McCain campaign is already doing its best to deflect all the negative stories that are coming out about Palin by calling Democrats sexist, and by claiming that they are the party that values women's rights. Of course, Dems had a woman on the presidential ticket in 1984 (Congresswoman Geraldine A. Ferraro), so Republicans aren't breaking glass ceilings here but are actually 24 years late to the party. When it comes to sexism, it seems the party that isn't for equal pay or for a woman's right to choose should take a quick look in the mirror before accusing others of sexism. In fact, McCain's idea that women will vote for the McCain/Palin ticket just because Palin has a vagina is incredibly condescending, as Ann Friedman at the American Prospect writes:
Palin's addition to the ticket takes Republican faux-feminism to a whole new level. As Adam Serwer pointed out on TAPPED, this is in fact a condescending move by the GOP. It plays to the assumption that disaffected Hillary Clinton supporters did not care about her politics -- only her gender. In picking Palin, Republicans are lending credence to the sexist assumption that women voters are too stupid to investigate or care about the issues, and merely want to vote for someone who looks like them. As Serwer noted, it's akin to choosing Alan Keyes in an attempt to compete with Obama for votes from black Americans.A candidate should be chosen because they are qualified for the job, not because of their gender. Any hardworking woman who has been passed over for a promotion could have told the McCain campaign that.
7: Palin Can't Even Run a Car Wash
Many politicians have a strong background in business: CEOs, executives, business presidents, self-made millionaires, etc. The thinking is that a businessperson is economically savvy, has executive experience, and can make tough calls and quick decisions. Well, Palin has some experience in the private sector: While she was mayor of Wasilla, Palin had time to open up a car wash in Anchorage. Good for her, nothing wrong with a little public service cushioned by some private business while raising a family. But by the time Palin was governor of Alaska, her business had run into trouble, as Matthew Mosk reports for the Washington Post:
State records show the business ran into trouble with Alaska's division of corporations business and professional licensing after Palin became governor of the state in 2006.
A Feb. 11, 2007, letter to the governor's business partner advises that the car wash had "not filed its biennial report and/or paid its biennial fees," which were more than a year overdue.
The warning letter was written on state letterhead, which carried Palin's name at the top, next to the state seal.
On April 3, 2007, the state went further and issued a "certificate of involuntary dissolution" because of the car wash's failure to file its report and pay state licensing fees.The least you can accuse Palin here is of mismanagement (of a car wash!); at worst, she was abusing her political clout by trying to cut corners. Either way, Palin doesn't come off as the kind of executive you'd want running your business, let along your country.
8: Lied About Foreign Travel
In an attempt to inflate her nonexistent foreign policy credentials, Palin's spokespeople stated shortly after her nomination that she had traveled to Germany, Kuwait and Ireland: you know, the three countries most likely to give rise to catastrophic national security emergencies in the next four years.
But not only is Palin's travel history unimpressive, it was also being blatantly misrepresented. According Jim Aravosis, an Irish blogger has just revealed that Palin was in Ireland for a brief refueling layover.
And as Aravosis argues, Palin's lack of travel experience outside of "duty-free diplomacy" has major implications:
… John McCain, who is 72 and has had 4 bouts of cancer, (has) picked Sarah Palin to replace him as commander in chief should he die or be incapacitated in office.
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Posted by: peridot on Sep 3, 2008 2:28 AM
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Posted by: LionHeart on Sep 3, 2008 2:52 AM
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Sen. Barack Obama sought more than $3.4 million in congressional earmarks for clients of the lobbyist son of his Democratic running mate, Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, records show. Obama succeeded in getting $192,000 for one of the clients, St. Xavier University in suburban Chicago.""
What else is there to be said of earmarks
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Posted by: Plexius2 on Sep 3, 2008 3:44 AM
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Well, of course she does. Only bad girls get pregnant without getting married. So they need to be punished by being made to suffer for the rest of their lives. That is the Republican and religionists' ethos.
And of course her own daughter has, no doubt, had a good talking to, and will wed soon, so she doesn't have to be punished like all those other girls. Although I wonder what the hold up is on the marriage. If she is five months pregnant, shouldn't she have married about four months ago? Every day she is single is another day of living sinfully. Or did Mom just find out about her condition? Or is future hubby reluctant to tie the knot? Hmmmm.
If only reality would cooperate with Palin's values and ideas, and the people in it would just do as they are told by people higher up, like Palin, we would be living in paradise. Gosh darn it.
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Posted by: Opinionator on Sep 3, 2008 4:14 AM
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Obama is our only choice in Nov.
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Posted by: opmoc on Sep 3, 2008 4:45 AM
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Even I quickly discovered her association with AIP from a simple Google search before I saw any mention of it elsewhere.
Her association with the Alaskan Independence Party actually improved my perception of her, but will probably totally infuriate the vast majority of potential Republican voters.
There will be extremely powerful economic and other reasons for Alaskans to seek independence, some of which have parallels with Scotland seeking independence from the UK.
Scotland will almost certainly gain its independence sometime within the next 10-15 years because it is becoming clear that is what most Scottish people want.
Of course Alaska stands no chance or it will suffer a similar fate to Iraq.
But Regional independence and self Government is highly desirable as it is the only way that true Democracy can be attained rather than the current form of Centralised Dictatorship currently endemic throughout much of the planet.
However, such independence is diametrically opposed to almost all the core values of Republicans.
I'd give her a few more days before she resigns due to "family pressures"
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Posted by: TheGoodBus on Sep 3, 2008 5:48 AM
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I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job spending the money I earn than I can.
I'm voting Democrat because people who believe in sensible restrictions on illegal immigration are racists and because I know that compassionate liberals sleep with their front doors wide open.
I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq , the bad guys will stop planning to kill us because they'll realize we're nice people.
I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody claims to be offended by what I have to say.
I'm voting Democrat because people who can't be sure if it will rain tomorrow can assure us that the polar ice caps will melt in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.
I'm voting Democrat because religion has ruined our country and because atheists, who believe only in the rules they make up for themselves, will probably run the country less selfishly than those who agree on the principles of the Ten Commandments.
I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of innocent babies as long as we keep all death row inmates alive.
I'm voting Democrat because we should leave our own oil in the ground and continue to depend on the Saudis to sell us theirs at a fair price.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe that businesses should not be allowed to keep earned profits but should give 80% to the government for buffalo DNA research and bridges to nowhere.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe brilliant judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few months to satisfy ideological extremists who could never get their agendas approved by thinking voters.
I'm voting Democrat because I think the kids who did no homework and carved graffiti on the classroom desks while I was learning in school deserve a healthy percentage of my earnings today.
I'm voting Democrat because in a compassionate nation with plenty of A's and B's to give away, good government should allow no child to be given a failing grade on his report card.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe we shouldn't fight the terrorists "over there" and because I don't want to have any guns around the house to fight them with when they come here.
I'm voting Democrat because Guantanamo should be closed and because terrorist suspects should be held in less intimidating facilities closer to my child's school.
I'm voting Democrat because who or what I kiss in public is my choice, so I've decided to role model for America's kids by calling my relationship with my hamster a marriage and filing for tax benefits.
I'm voting Democrat because I think sanctuary cities should protect the identities of not only border jumpers but also of those who break any laws that people smarter than the rest of us don't think are that important.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe that an oil company's standard profit of 8% on a gallon of gas is obscene but that the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% is not.
I'm voting Democrat because I accept that Barack Obama will bring the same kind of change to the White House that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have brought to the Congress.
In fact I sometimes wonder why anyone would EVER vote Republican.
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Posted by: mnstra on Sep 3, 2008 6:26 AM
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Did you expect a person with integrity to run for vice president.? Or president?
When will we progressives learn that Gov Palin's faults are the right qualities for public office and that Mc Cain looked for those qualities just like Bush did for C Cheney.If voting actually meant something it would be banned.
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On the plus side, of course, the point of the sentence was valid!
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Posted by: Ike Solem on Sep 3, 2008 6:54 AM
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First, her daughter's teenage pregnancy plays well to the religous right, which is very displeased with John McCain in general. It was probably a plus, in the minds of McCain's handlers (Rove & Co.).
Second, she has an unblemished record of diehard support for fossil fuel interests - all the talk of her being a "reformer" is ridiculous. Even her husband is an employee of British Petroleum, who stands to make billions off the Transcanada deal that Palin brokered.
For example:
ANCHORAGE, Alaska: Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has signed a bill authorizing the state to award a license to TransCanada Corp. to start developing a natural gas pipeline. Palin signed the bill on Wednesday in Anchorage, and expects the license to be issued within three months. The license allows TransCanada to move forward with plans to develop the 1,715-mile (2,760-kilometer) pipeline from a treatment plant at Prudhoe Bay to the Alberta hub.
IHT apr 08 2008
That's for development of the highly polluting Alberta tar sands projects.
Or this one:
Washington Post, Aug 31, 2008
The American Petroleum Institute and four other business groups filed suit Thursday against Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Director H. Dale Hall, joining Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's administration in trying to reverse the listing of the polar bear as a threatened species.
WP Aug 30 2008
Similarly, she worked hand in hand with Randall Luthi of the Minerals Management Service, (Cheney's ex-aide from Wyoming) to get the Chukchi sea oil drilling lease sales pushed through. Here is what Palin has to say on that issue:
"There are even bigger sources of crude than ANWR . . . such as offshore areas like the Chukchi Sea and Beaufort Sea. Congress can help us with those areas right now, bringing even more energy than ANWR and bringing it quicker." - Sarah Palin
IHT Jan 2 2008
She also claims global warming is has nothing to do with the use of fossil fuels.
All in all, her energy future outlook is identical to the Cheney program. Still, the right-wing blogosphere is vigorously denying she is involved with oil, which makes for some pretty funny reading:
Sarah Palin is no Tool of Big Oil, American Thinker
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Let me insert a totally chauvinistic thought.
SHE IS A TOTAL HOTTIE.
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"Any hard working woman whose been passed over"
It's who HAS or who's, not "whose."
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HEY, That's the "BEAUTY" Of McCAIN! He threw the Entire Liberal Media Machine off "TRACK"!
Now the they are Digging ..digging...digging to find anything to discourage this WOMAN from continuing in this race for VP. To hear the media talk about GOD is amazing stuff. Everything this woman "IS" they HATE.
Think, if this woman is successful becoming McCain's VP and McCain Wins....She (with GOD's help) Might be the "First Woman President" in 2012. Maybe God's Hand is at work here....??
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Posted by: Lauren on Sep 3, 2008 8:30 AM
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He says Palin is representing honor and risk, will appeal to "soft Republicans in the suburbs" and will give McCain 2 or 3 points. Yeah right. He warns the Democrats not to be condescending.
What irks me are the suppositions always included in the questions. The interviewers are feeding him his own falsehoods (it is an even race with the Democrats) and he is pleased by it.
Rove is the master of these fools, together they create propaganda. Are interviewers really so inside the bubble they don't realize it? I thought they were faking it.
But his brightly scrubbed face looks so ernest repeating Rove's lie, I think he is actually believing it. What a fool, a total damn fool. Get wise you idiot, the race is not even! To say it is is either a sign of incredible delusion or simple treachery. Which is it Buddy?
I bet our veterans can educate this reporter if they try. He is doing them a huge disservice by promoting Rove's lies. Shame on him, shame on the both of them.
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Posted by: Ike Solem on Sep 3, 2008 8:33 AM
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For the details of that, see:
http://www.adn.com/money/ industries/oil/pipeline/story/420067.html
Anchorage Daily News: Palin urges 'yes' vote on TransCanada pipeline plan
TRANSCANADA: Legislators told that rejecting plan would put state at mercy of major Slope producers.
By WESLEY LOY, Published: May 29th, 2008 12:01 AM
"The state can't afford not to support TransCanada Corp.'s proposal for a natural gas pipeline, Gov. Sarah Palin and her aides said Wednesday."
In reality, she is a creature of the International Oil Corporations. Her PR office claims that her husband, Todd, has no role in her political affairs and doesn't attend political meetings - but if you look at that article above, there's a nice picture of Sarah Palin conferring with her British Petroleum husband over the Transcanada deal.
Not only that, she's tied to the Ted Steven corruption case (she even worked to build a rail line from her hometown to Ted Steven's ski-resort residence):
Campaign money hurts Palin's outsider image, AP, Sep 3 2008
For one thing, it was reported that she accepted at least $4,500 in campaign contributions in the same fundraising scheme at the center of a public corruption scandal that led to the indictment of Sen. Ted Stevens.
The contributions, made during Palin's failed 2002 bid to become Alaska's lieutenant governor, were not illegal for her to accept. But they show how Palin, a self-proclaimed champion for clean government, has been part of an Alaska political system that is now under the cloud of an ongoing FBI investigation.
That's the real reason McCain chose her - it was his declaration of allegiance to the international oil companies, including BP and Shell, and he was just making it very clear to them that he would support their interests over those of the American public.
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So now we're presented with a blatantly unqualified, downright scary but personally appealing Vice Presidential candidate, who will also appeal to the religious wing-nuts. Sounds like a plan to me. McCain must have some skeletons in his closet we don't know about - start opening doors.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 3, 2008 8:38 AM
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It's a shame that those "values" of abstinence were not followed by her own. It is also a shame that these young people should now be forced into a shot-gun wedding (must we really go back to those days)to appease those "values" voters. It also speaks volumes that her own daughter never appeared to have that talk with her parents regarding sex and her own sexuality!
While I do agree that it isn't my business, neither should it be the governments business when other women get pregnant and "choose" to have an abortion!
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Posted by: outlander55 on Sep 3, 2008 8:46 AM
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Every time I read another article showing Sarah Palins' incompetence, I scratch my head and wonder what in the hell is McSame thinking? It makes me wonder about his competency as a prospective world leader.
Sarah Palin obviously is not qualified to be V.P. But to here the McSame camp praising her qualifications makes me wonder about my sanity. ("Did they really say that"). One of the McSame team told Cambell Brown of CNN that Palin has made more decisions in two years as Governor than Senator Obama has made in his career. When he was asked to give an example, he talked the GOP circle and said nothing. When Brown pressured him, he talked a bigger circle, repeating that Palin had made more decisions than Obama. People, this makes absolutely no sense!!!
The kool-ade is flowing like a river and these morons are going to screw up the country so bad that nothing will fix it.
And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, scares the shit out of me.
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Debate instead the need for a medical system that will mend the bones from hurling sticks and stones.
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How can you serve two masters, God and money?
What Obama needs to do is to talk about true Christian values--charity, humility, service, even (I daresay) love, and expose Palin and her crowd for what they are: impostors and charlatans who think God should work for gas pipelines in Alaska.
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"8 More Shocking Revelations About Sarah Palin"? This tabloid headline is tooooo much. If only HL Mencken were alive to witness the democratic mob in 2008! When it comes to representative democracy, so-called, nothing has changed in a hundred years!
How did the Liberal / Progressive movement here in the US of A become the fear-ridden, angry, priggish and bitter Cult of Doom? I thought liberalism / progressivism was baed on the idea that people were good, kind and decent.
Sarah Palin, a person I actually know, is not the Anti-Christess nor is she some kind of Saviouress. She's simply a good and decent human being that governs the largest state in the union. There is much to disagree with her politically but why all the slander and innuendo?
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I don't find a mind like yours worth a huge effort and since I do have a life, outside Alternet I'll give you a reply to item #1
This tired, old 'Tax and Spend Liberals' stereotype is so passe it makes me sleeeepyyyy. It's much more symbolic of the era of Karl Rove than of speaking any truth about liberals and of course you and the silly 'cut-and-paste-author' know that.
The facts are very different!!
Reagan left the nation with the largest deficit in history to that point - even inflation-adjusted. He transfered the greatest portion of the nation's wealth into the hands of the smallest number of people than in any time since the era of the industrial robber barons.
Bush #1 famously defined Bushonomics as 'the transfer of the money into the highest, tightest hands'! One must resist the urge to slip the word 'whitest' in there so it reads, 'highest, WHITEST, tightest hands,' but that wouldn't be historically correct.
Clinton told the truth that it would take intelligence and efficiencies - plus some tax increases to fix this deficit. If you understand history any better than your post suggests, you know he did.
Bush #2 not only gave us the highest deficit in history but he did it by channeling the money from the hands of the taxpayer into the wealthy hands of the military-industrial-complex. While doing so he fought and financed the Iraqi war 'off the books' with money he borrowed from the Chinese and Japanese and it's still almost impossible for forensic economists to ferret out the actual cost. Your grandchildren will likely be busy paying this debt, off!
Today we know that every man woman and child alive in the USA owes a share of the national debt amounting to approx. $175,000!
Soon it was revealed that the right had a specific agenda which included taxing and spending - mostly on wars of choice - until the budget was broken, with the stated goal of relieving the nation of any funds which might otherwise be spent on 'left-wing-socialist' programs. You know, things like roads, bridges, electric grids, internet, schools, health care? AND why would you spend money so foolishly on education and infrastructure when you have the choice of spending it on things that go BOOM! and kill third world children.
These Republican policies both steal resources from third world nations which would misuse them for nefarious reasons of course, and eliminate huge numbers of the children of those nations assuring American superiority and improving life style for years to come!
Certainly better than the policies of 'tax-and-spend-liberals' which would waste all that money on foolishness!!
OK folks, help the Republican - who already found his shoes this morning - to find out the real facts about these silly stereotypes!
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We still don't have the truth about whether or not Sarah Palins 5th child is hers or not.
This is the kind of trashy mess which this "abstinence only" stuff leads -- dumb as a post, pregnant and married at age 17 and THAT'S JUST FINE with McCane and the fundies!
Not only is it just fine, this is the ACTUAL REASON they oppose abortion -- because it takes promising young girls out of school, out of college, out of work and LANDS THEM MARRIED AND PREGNANT at age 17.
That is the REASON for everything anti-choice -- to turn the clock back on women and push them back into this kind of ruined life path.
This girl -- her education is shot, she won't be a doctor or a lawyer . . . which is exactly what the fundies want.
So, OF COURSE, the fundies are happy when we have two children in a shotgun wedding over a swollen belly -- THAT'T WHY THEY OPPOSED ABORTION TO BEGIN WITH.
Abortion means female lives get back on track, girls get back to school, women are back at work, taking charge as expected, women are not derailed, pulled off the job -- women are under control and moving ahead.
NOOOOOOO!!! That would be awful!! We WANT 17-year-old pregnant twits with child and married.
McCain has APPROVED the whole nasty, trashy, underclass, sleazy mess!!
DISGUSTING!!!!!
Jan VanDenBerg
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Look, the Democratic party left me when it took my vote for granted while waving the abortion flag, as if all that matters to me as a feminist is babies.
Maybe the liberal bloggers have forgotten that Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act and Don't Ask, Don't Tell into law. Maybe the liberal bloggers don't realize that under the current president, the gender wage gap has been the smallest it's ever been (in 2005, 2007). Republicans have their problems -- mostly from the insurgence of evangelicals, but they also manage to get things done.
Lots of talk going on by the Democratic party. What happened to all the changes they were going to make when they won control of Congress two years ago? I helped vote them in and we now have record deficits in my state and taxes being put on our Halloween pumpkins!
The mainstream press won’t examine the issue of why Senator Obama got where he is DESPITE his lack of experience. Those who raise the issue that it came down to race versus gender, like Gerraldine Ferraro, are quickly villified.
I'll vote for McCain-Palin because it's the chance for my daughter to grow up seeing a woman in the White House. The Democrats chose as VP an old male Washington insider with 8000 votes over a woman with 18 million. That wasn't their first mistake, but it was their last for me.
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Alternet needs to be called to task for the headline for this "article" - the use of the word "shocking" makes it look so tabloid. In addition, some of the "revelations' weren't new, and didn't really need repeating. Let's try to be responsible, huh?
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Maybe I'm overestimating Karl Rove's evil genius here, but I've heard an interesting theory that goes something like this:
Sarah Palin is quite simply a trojan horse. She was meant all along to take a beating from the "liberal media" so that she can drop out of the race in a week or two and gain sympathy for the Republicans. Can you imagine the public's disappointment that a small town "hockey mom" who eats "moose burgers" and has 5 kids including a pregnant daughter was so "mistreated" by the media (and therefore the democrats)? This opens the door for McCain/Rove to usher in their real pick, and the name I've been hearing is Condoleeza Rice.
I just want to get this theory out into the open so that should it go down, we had all heard the possibility raised.
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New reports raise questions about the firing of a local police chief.
After taking over as Mayor of the small town of Wasilla, Palin fired the longtime local police chief. The former police chief, Irl Stambaugh says he was fired because he stepped on the toes of Palin's campaign contributors, including bar owners and the National Rifle Association.
Stambaugh's lawyer, William Jermain, says the chief tried to move up the closing hours of local bars from 5 a.m. to two a.m. after a spurt of drunk driving accidents and arrests.
"His crackdown on that practice by the bars was not appreciated by her and that was one reason she terminated Irl," said Jermain.
In his 1997 lawsuit, Stambaugh also alleged that his stand on restricting concealed weapons upset the NRA.
"Mayor Palin has stated on several occasions that the National Rifle Association encouraged her to fire Chief Stambaugh because of his stance against the concealed weapons legislation," the lawsuit claimed.
Palin says she was up against entrenched insiders when she was elected mayor of Wasilla in 1996.
"We had a lot of people that were kind of dead wood," said Colleen Sullivan Leonard, a staff member in Palin's office. "We needed people with new energy and a new vision."
A federal judge later ruled the mayor, under city law, had the right to fire the police chief for any reason she wanted.
Palin is now facing similar allegations in the state capitol, that politics played a role in her firing of the Alaska public safety commissioner, Walter Monegan.
"It has every possibility of giving the Governor an ethical black eye in an area where she's touted herself as being particularly strong," said Alaskan State Senator Hollis French, a Democrat.
At issue is whether Palin fired the public safety commissioner because he refused to fire a state trooper who was the Governor's brother-in-law and going through an ugly divorce with the Governor's sister.
The Governor has denied any wrongdoing or involvement in the matter, but Senator French, who is leading the investigation has his doubts.
"The Governor first issued a blanket denial," said Sen. French, "and now she's had to back down and that's a problem."
Monday, Palin called for the Alaskan Personnel Board to conduct a formal investigation into Monegan's dismissal "to put these matters to rest".
"The idea that there had been no contact and no pressure doesn't stand up," said Sen. French. "Her credibility I think was damaged in that blanket denial."
The McCain campaign says it's clear that some insiders don't like the fact that Palin has been bucking the status quo to implement change.
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Posted by: common intelligence on Sep 3, 2008 2:51 PM
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Hey, why don't you hack journalist address that issue?
We need to focus at "reflecting" that kind of rhetoric by showing their anger not ours.
Yet, we have every reason to be more than angry.
Therefore if blog articles by the writers like Isaac Fitzgerald, Tana Ganeva, and Bonnie Fuller would focus on the assinine products the GOP has bequithed Americans and all the reprocusions yet to be felt from the bastards, then maybe the dim witted "un-desided" voters would have a better idea of just why they have to vote Demo.
So, in short, cut the bad mouthing of Palin out. It doesn't help.
It's better to focus on imbicilic plans McCain has layed out and will follow already layed out by the Bush Head.
As well, It is better to focus on Just how Obama is going to repair All the domestic damage and neglegence The Bush head has set in place. Descibe these things and then even the Repuks will understand they should be angry themselves.
You know "Bad publicity is better than no publicity". I know most of you have heard that.
Stop any publicity of Palin on the part of the demo camp. It is a typical Rove/Repuk strategy that has worked wonders for them. Why can't you people get it? It's simply this,
The Repuks way of dishing and dealing politics is to:
1) Ignore the truth. That way they never have to defend their position.
2) Redirect the adversarial position when questioned.
3) Deny, Deny, deny.
4) Deceive
5) Never tell the truth (we all know that one)
6) Always tell a story that things are rosier than they really are.
Oh there are others too! But these are the core approaches
Ya see these Repuks live in a LA LA land in their minds. They never want to know or see how the rest of the world lives. What their only concern is, is to maintain their personal "life style" even if the rest of the Americans have none or are out of the loop to be able to get one.
If you people would focus on domestic issues (You know what they are. I don't have to tell you that too, do I?)
Then you could get to all people instead of fending an us against them mentality.
Use The repuks new slogan, " Country First" The bastards can't copy write that!
Everything the Repuks say and do Reflect it, instead of dodge it!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-QevraCQUc
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Posted by: LeaderofMen on Sep 3, 2008 5:13 PM
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So, McCain doesn't know how many houses he has and she doesn't know the LESS THAN HANDFUL of countries she's visited. Plus, she's never met with ANY head of state anywhere.
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Posted by: loxias on Sep 3, 2008 5:39 PM
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Who has the most money in the world? What is in their best interest? Who wields the most international power? Who dangles the American government, the public, civic and business law, and every politician from their black, oily fingers?
Still don't smell the light, sweet crude?
How and why do you think someone like Palin was suddenly thrust into the state spotlight and somehow triumphed over everyone and became governer out of nowhere?
Bush was a prophet to the manipulators of power. You can install a vacuous literal-biblical, and stop worrying about first-downs.
Still don't see the derricks?
If there is no social conscience at the top to throw up some defense, those that control the current obligatory natural resource will score only touchdowns.
Thus it has been since the dawn of 'civilization'.
As the odors of bitumen, gold and silver slowly waft on, they are replaced by the fetor of germanium, sulphur and mmm... light, sweet crude.
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Posted by: radical53 on Sep 3, 2008 5:51 PM
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Obama is the most inspiring orator since Martin Luther King. He has reasonable, progressive proposals on the economy, health care, energy policy, and foreign policy. He has demonstrated his judgment by opposing the Iraq war, choosing a VP who is eminently qualified, and showing a willingness to make intelligent compromises on a whole range of issues.
.......And the polls say this election is a toss-up. It seems that lies are more persuasive than the truth.
If the Republicans win this one, it's time to pack it in. Please don't let it happen.
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Posted by: swooshy on Sep 3, 2008 6:15 PM
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http://actionfund.defenders.org/palinvideo
and setting up bounties on wildlife she would be paying MORE attention to what was really important(at least what her political party preaches) HER FAMILY and CHILDREN.
I do feel very sorry for her daugher. She probably had little or no information on birth control. It sounds like she was turned into the nanny instead of having a life of her own which is not going to help the self esteem of a teenage girl. I know of parents who do this (mostly to daughters, not often sons) The girls sometimes fly the coop completely and run off with the first guy they meet. The results can be an underage pregnancy(under 18, not even finishing high school) and it's usually a disaster. This guy sounds like a REAL winner, but wait maybe he will suprise everyone and grow up.
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Posted by: blogbooks on Sep 3, 2008 6:41 PM
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Neither Obama nor McCain will make any meaningful changes during their presidency.
We are long past the time when great men were even allowed to run for president. At this point you have to settle for one flavor or another of mediocrity.
And our freedoms and chances of survival as a nation slip ever further.
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Posted by: SafeLibraries on Sep 3, 2008 6:43 PM
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That is false. See http://www.librarian.net/stax/2366/sarah-palin-vp-nominee/ "Sarah Palin, VP Nominee," by Jessamyn West, Librarian.net, 2 September 2008, and all the many comments thereunder.
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Posted by: Betsy L. Angert on Sep 3, 2008 6:48 PM
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I thank you for this exposé. I too am terrified by the Republican selections.
As I said aloud days ago, were it not for the seriousness of the situation, Sarah Palin could be considered a cartoon character. Her story is almost comical.
Indeed, for me, even John McCain is and was a less than viable candidate. Republican friends felt John McCain was a terrible choice. Yet there he is, perchance, our next President. You may have viewed the video Former POW says McCain is "not cut out to be President."
I can only wonder if this election is a comedy of errors, or if these selections, the two main performers are tragic heroes.
I invite your review and reflection on what I think most disastrous, the deed not done.
To Vet or Not to Vet; That is the Sarah Palin Question
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Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.
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The religious factions that are growing throughout our land are not using their religious clout with wisdom.... I'm frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in 'A,' 'B,' 'C,' and 'D.' Just who do they think they are?... I will fight them every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans in the name of "conservatism."
- Barry Goldwater, (1909–1998), five-term US Senator, Republican Party nominee for President in 1964*, Maj. Gen., US Air Force Reserves, author of The Conscience of a Conservative.
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Posted by: Aredee on Sep 3, 2008 10:19 PM
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Besides, I'm awfully tired of the "McCain almost died for your sins" schtick.
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Posted by: stopthemaddness2 on Sep 3, 2008 10:41 PM
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I just want to say that someone in the Insane McCain camp must have planned this as a means to stop him, block him, or sabotage his entire campaign. He should check into that carefully. It was as if (one of his own REPUBLICAN folks wanted to back stab him).. ruin him(rhetorically speaking), and, did so by choosing her. It strongly appears McCain couldn't have made THIS choice SINGLY himself. Someone had to know her wacky soap opera background. Not to mention the controversy and inexperience she brings to the their ticket. Her ideas on segregating Alaska, and the oil breaks her state is given above other states, and the tiny town she is branded with managing, is ludicrous. The pregnancy issues with her child having a child is a blemish on an overall White house image and anyone that says it isn't is fooling themselves. Image counts in high public office. Always has and always will.
Another major point, McCain, doesn't even look comfortable with her, nor did he know her well enough and that was evidenced in the introduction speech she first gave. He was twisting his hands, actually ringing his hands nervously the whole time she spoke. And when he realized the cameras caught him, he quickly stopped, and minutes later, proceeded the hand ringing again. I watched this very carefully and with great concern. If he isn't comfortable, why should we be?
And to find all this out later, after the fact and more keeps coming daily? It is a dark cloud that will not go away. She is just WRONG, no matter how you turn it in my opinion. A WRONG choice. Period. It is clear, it was done in great haste. And may have been done for spite, to sabotage his campaign. Just look at the daily reports about her. The whole thing is disaster and you should read what other countries are saying in their press. It is not favorable at all.
The RNC waged attacks on Obama, and the media, but what another major mistake. The attack wagon will be boomeranging in return coming for them, through her. Hate was heavily laced throughout their entire third night at the RNC. Just Plain Hate. It went way beyond attacks. That kinda thing never wins, it always looses and has no place in uniting and fixing the many many problems this nation now faces. It was ugly, a real turn off to watch. Sad to see so much HATE. The HATE alone is a major reason, I could never vote for the Insane McCain campaign. And one last thing. The word Reform has the identical meaning ...identical MEANING/WORDS that OBAMA talked about and presented in his platform.
Change/Reform/Change. Why steal it to carbon copy and claim it as your own? We see through that and through Pallin as well. I am fed up with the entire last eight years. Pallin 8 is scary, unacceptable. Eight horribly difficult Bush years. Eight revealing risky facts about Pallin per this article. Correlation maybe? We have already suffered to the tune of $4 a gallon at any gas pump in the nation, as each day the cost of Iraq continues adding into the billions. Somebody stop the maddness!
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Posted by: Elmowilcox on Sep 3, 2008 11:16 PM
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Replace "Domino's Scientists" with "GOP Strategerists",
"Humans" with "American public",
and "Eat" with "vote for".....
..and we've got ourselves another American election.
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Half-baked Alaska.
Ba da bing, ba da boom.
Since I don't watch TV, and only read a few blogs and such on sites like Alternet, I don't know if anyone else has put this forward. If so, I swear I didn't pull a Joe Biden.
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Posted by: LeaderofMen on Sep 4, 2008 5:12 AM
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Whenever anyone goes into an interview their qualifications are looked at via a resume or CV. So, unless you know someone who might be able to hire you without said background check, the CV or resume is usually consulted.
We all know Obama because of a national vetting process. No one knows Palin. No one.
Interestingly, the Republicans want us to 'believe' them with respect to her qualifications. And trolls around the nation want to pretend that Obama came from nowhere and is thoroughly unqualified.
I know for a fact (altho Republicans don't use facts) that the following is true. They don't because they don't care.
Obama's CV:
• In the US Senate, Barack Obama has served on the FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE, HOMELAND SECURITY COMMITTEE, VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, HEALTH, EDUCATION, LABOUR & PENSION COMMITTEE.
• Before being elected to the US Senate Obama in a landslide (70% to 27%) against a Republican, he served 11 years in the Illinois State Senate.
• Barack Obama graduated magna cum laude ('91) from Harvard Law School.
• Barack Obama also has a degree in Political science specializing in International Relations.
• Barack Obama worked in Chicago, Illinois as a community organizer. Obama, as the director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago, helped set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants" rights organization in Altgeld Gardens.
• Barack Obama also worked as a consultant and instructor for a community organizing institute.
• Barack Obama worked as a Civil Rights lawyer for 9 years.
• Barack Obama was also a University of Chicago Constutitional Law Professor for 12 years.
• In the U.S Senate Obama has served on the FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE, HOMELAND SECURITY COMMITTEE, VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, HEALTH, EDUCATION, LABOR & PENSION COMMITTEE.
• In the US Senate Obama has written 890 pieces of legislation, and co-sponsored 1096 pieces of legislation.
Palin's CV:
• She was mayor and a council member of the small town of Wasilla.
• She was the chairman of the state Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska's oil and gas resources, in 2003 and 2004.
• Palin applied for and received her first passport in 2007. She lied about how many countries she's visited.
• One of Palin's most important accomplishments is being a runner up in a state beauty contest.
• She was a member of the school PTA in Wasilla.
• After being mayor of Wasilla she left the town tens of millions of dollars in debt.
• She has stated publically that she has no idea what a VP does on a daily basis.
• Frank Gaffney is sure that Palin is qualified as a foreign policy expert because of 'osmosis'.
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(Stolen from BlueOregon.com)
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After all, follow the alaska money.
And her fundie attitudes about all things, why is that a surprise or shock?
And one more thing.
I don't understand why the fuss about her utter lack of experience in anything remotely resembling national/international governance. After all, there WILL be "handlers" for her. My guess is that, given a choice, the handlers would choose the "blank slate" rather than the person who already has preconceived notions about "stuff".
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Comments welcome.
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Posted by: RogerR on Sep 5, 2008 5:03 PM
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So it got me thinking about how hurricanes seem to be visited upon us much more frequently these days. In rapid succession there was Hurricane Gustav, then Hurricane Hanna and now Hurricane Sarah - the so called ( hockey) mother of all hurricanes.
To the lay person hurricanes seem to be formed in total secrecy, gather power as they consolidate their blowing winds and hot air, and then appear as if out of the blue to cause damage wherever they land.
Hurricane Sarah is like that. A minor depression just weeks ago, Sarah has now become a storm and appears ready to take on the role of a full-blown hurricane.
But unlike Gustav and Hanna - hurricanes which people can only prepare for, not stop - Hurricane Sarah is preventable.
How you ask?
By telling everyone you know, including daughters and mothers, husbands and wives, sons and fathers, lovers and partners, that Hurricane Sarah when coupled with Tropical Depression John, will wreak havoc on their personal lives and the lives of the people they love.
Don't wait. Act now. The storm clouds are building. Don't let this disaster hit our shores.
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You bet, but she aint cute!!! Check out pitbullattack.wordpress.com
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1.Residents of Alaska get annual dividends from oil revenue. Doesn't Prudhoe Bay belong to all citizens of the U.S.? Where are our dividends?
2. Why does any of the Prudhoe Bay oil go to countries like Japan and Korea? Why doesn't Congress repeal the law they passed allowing our oil to go anywhere but to Americans. Some will remember that in order to get permission to drill, they had to agree that it would be used by Americans.
3. If ANWR or offshore drilling is opened up, how much of it will be sold to Americans? Anyone care to guess?
4. Why in the world do we pay subsidies to the major oil companies?
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But that's all I've got so far, and little time to write/research. Take it somewhere, y'all. 'Cause the similarities really scare me.
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Posted by: regularslinky on Sep 9, 2008 11:42 AM
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Palin isn't there to appeal to the middle - she's there to excite the right wing nut job "Jesus loves America" contingent. And she's doing a great job. And, the more the left beats her up, the more determined they are to put her into office.
Palin isn't worth the keystrokes. McCain has a lot of vulnerabilities - we should be hitting him hard - enough of the "American hero" crap. That is the only way to win elections in 2008.
Sorry, but this is not going to be an Obama landslide - it's going to come down to the same old counties in the same old battleground states. And if the Democrats lose this one - with the best candidate in the last 40 years and the worst Republican administration ever in office - I'm not sure the party will survive.
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Posted by: kamala63 on Sep 9, 2008 7:35 PM
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The banning itself is a problem for me, but what books...I'm curious...
Harry Potter?
To Kill a Mockingbird?
Huckleberry Finn?
Seems someone, somewhere ought to know which specific books got her attention.
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» Oh, we can't assume she agrees with HER pastor??? Why did Obama have to quit HIS church, then???
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Posted by: LionHeart on Sep 3, 2008 2:52 AM
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Sen. Barack Obama sought more than $3.4 million in congressional earmarks for clients of the lobbyist son of his Democratic running mate, Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, records show. Obama succeeded in getting $192,000 for one of the clients, St. Xavier University in suburban Chicago.""
What else is there to be said of earmarks
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» Dude, that's money for a University!
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Posted by: Obama2008Fan on Sep 3, 2008 3:30 AM
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Dear Hillary fans. If, after clicking on the link above and reading the presented material, you still won't support Barack Obama, for the sake of America and your loved ones, vote for all Democratic, independent and/or Green Party candidates for the Senate and House of Representatives on your ballot.
A veto-proof Congress of freedom-loving Americans may be the only thing that saves us from four more years of Republican insanity.
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Posted by: Plexius2 on Sep 3, 2008 3:44 AM
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Well, of course she does. Only bad girls get pregnant without getting married. So they need to be punished by being made to suffer for the rest of their lives. That is the Republican and religionists' ethos.
And of course her own daughter has, no doubt, had a good talking to, and will wed soon, so she doesn't have to be punished like all those other girls. Although I wonder what the hold up is on the marriage. If she is five months pregnant, shouldn't she have married about four months ago? Every day she is single is another day of living sinfully. Or did Mom just find out about her condition? Or is future hubby reluctant to tie the knot? Hmmmm.
If only reality would cooperate with Palin's values and ideas, and the people in it would just do as they are told by people higher up, like Palin, we would be living in paradise. Gosh darn it.
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Posted by: Opinionator on Sep 3, 2008 4:14 AM
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Obama is our only choice in Nov.
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Posted by: SarahPalinAdmirationSociety on Sep 3, 2008 4:31 AM
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Posted by: opmoc on Sep 3, 2008 4:45 AM
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Even I quickly discovered her association with AIP from a simple Google search before I saw any mention of it elsewhere.
Her association with the Alaskan Independence Party actually improved my perception of her, but will probably totally infuriate the vast majority of potential Republican voters.
There will be extremely powerful economic and other reasons for Alaskans to seek independence, some of which have parallels with Scotland seeking independence from the UK.
Scotland will almost certainly gain its independence sometime within the next 10-15 years because it is becoming clear that is what most Scottish people want.
Of course Alaska stands no chance or it will suffer a similar fate to Iraq.
But Regional independence and self Government is highly desirable as it is the only way that true Democracy can be attained rather than the current form of Centralised Dictatorship currently endemic throughout much of the planet.
However, such independence is diametrically opposed to almost all the core values of Republicans.
I'd give her a few more days before she resigns due to "family pressures"
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Posted by: TheGoodBus on Sep 3, 2008 5:48 AM
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I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job spending the money I earn than I can.
I'm voting Democrat because people who believe in sensible restrictions on illegal immigration are racists and because I know that compassionate liberals sleep with their front doors wide open.
I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq , the bad guys will stop planning to kill us because they'll realize we're nice people.
I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody claims to be offended by what I have to say.
I'm voting Democrat because people who can't be sure if it will rain tomorrow can assure us that the polar ice caps will melt in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.
I'm voting Democrat because religion has ruined our country and because atheists, who believe only in the rules they make up for themselves, will probably run the country less selfishly than those who agree on the principles of the Ten Commandments.
I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of innocent babies as long as we keep all death row inmates alive.
I'm voting Democrat because we should leave our own oil in the ground and continue to depend on the Saudis to sell us theirs at a fair price.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe that businesses should not be allowed to keep earned profits but should give 80% to the government for buffalo DNA research and bridges to nowhere.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe brilliant judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few months to satisfy ideological extremists who could never get their agendas approved by thinking voters.
I'm voting Democrat because I think the kids who did no homework and carved graffiti on the classroom desks while I was learning in school deserve a healthy percentage of my earnings today.
I'm voting Democrat because in a compassionate nation with plenty of A's and B's to give away, good government should allow no child to be given a failing grade on his report card.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe we shouldn't fight the terrorists "over there" and because I don't want to have any guns around the house to fight them with when they come here.
I'm voting Democrat because Guantanamo should be closed and because terrorist suspects should be held in less intimidating facilities closer to my child's school.
I'm voting Democrat because who or what I kiss in public is my choice, so I've decided to role model for America's kids by calling my relationship with my hamster a marriage and filing for tax benefits.
I'm voting Democrat because I think sanctuary cities should protect the identities of not only border jumpers but also of those who break any laws that people smarter than the rest of us don't think are that important.
I'm voting Democrat because I believe that an oil company's standard profit of 8% on a gallon of gas is obscene but that the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% is not.
I'm voting Democrat because I accept that Barack Obama will bring the same kind of change to the White House that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have brought to the Congress.
In fact I sometimes wonder why anyone would EVER vote Republican.
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Posted by: mnstra on Sep 3, 2008 6:26 AM
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Did you expect a person with integrity to run for vice president.? Or president?
When will we progressives learn that Gov Palin's faults are the right qualities for public office and that Mc Cain looked for those qualities just like Bush did for C Cheney.If voting actually meant something it would be banned.
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Posted by: David'Z RantZ on Sep 3, 2008 6:39 AM
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On the plus side, of course, the point of the sentence was valid!
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Posted by: Ike Solem on Sep 3, 2008 6:54 AM
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First, her daughter's teenage pregnancy plays well to the religous right, which is very displeased with John McCain in general. It was probably a plus, in the minds of McCain's handlers (Rove & Co.).
Second, she has an unblemished record of diehard support for fossil fuel interests - all the talk of her being a "reformer" is ridiculous. Even her husband is an employee of British Petroleum, who stands to make billions off the Transcanada deal that Palin brokered.
For example:
ANCHORAGE, Alaska: Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has signed a bill authorizing the state to award a license to TransCanada Corp. to start developing a natural gas pipeline. Palin signed the bill on Wednesday in Anchorage, and expects the license to be issued within three months. The license allows TransCanada to move forward with plans to develop the 1,715-mile (2,760-kilometer) pipeline from a treatment plant at Prudhoe Bay to the Alberta hub.
IHT apr 08 2008
That's for development of the highly polluting Alberta tar sands projects.
Or this one:
Washington Post, Aug 31, 2008
The American Petroleum Institute and four other business groups filed suit Thursday against Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Director H. Dale Hall, joining Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's administration in trying to reverse the listing of the polar bear as a threatened species.
WP Aug 30 2008
Similarly, she worked hand in hand with Randall Luthi of the Minerals Management Service, (Cheney's ex-aide from Wyoming) to get the Chukchi sea oil drilling lease sales pushed through. Here is what Palin has to say on that issue:
"There are even bigger sources of crude than ANWR . . . such as offshore areas like the Chukchi Sea and Beaufort Sea. Congress can help us with those areas right now, bringing even more energy than ANWR and bringing it quicker." - Sarah Palin
IHT Jan 2 2008
She also claims global warming is has nothing to do with the use of fossil fuels.
All in all, her energy future outlook is identical to the Cheney program. Still, the right-wing blogosphere is vigorously denying she is involved with oil, which makes for some pretty funny reading:
Sarah Palin is no Tool of Big Oil, American Thinker
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Posted by: EinMD on Sep 3, 2008 7:23 AM
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Bill Clinton got a blowjob!
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Posted by: Ky Lake Dave on Sep 3, 2008 7:52 AM
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Let me insert a totally chauvinistic thought.
SHE IS A TOTAL HOTTIE.
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Posted by: helenwheels on Sep 3, 2008 8:08 AM
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"Any hard working woman whose been passed over"
It's who HAS or who's, not "whose."
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Posted by: greatdanes on Sep 3, 2008 8:11 AM
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HEY, That's the "BEAUTY" Of McCAIN! He threw the Entire Liberal Media Machine off "TRACK"!
Now the they are Digging ..digging...digging to find anything to discourage this WOMAN from continuing in this race for VP. To hear the media talk about GOD is amazing stuff. Everything this woman "IS" they HATE.
Think, if this woman is successful becoming McCain's VP and McCain Wins....She (with GOD's help) Might be the "First Woman President" in 2012. Maybe God's Hand is at work here....??
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Posted by: Lauren on Sep 3, 2008 8:30 AM
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He says Palin is representing honor and risk, will appeal to "soft Republicans in the suburbs" and will give McCain 2 or 3 points. Yeah right. He warns the Democrats not to be condescending.
What irks me are the suppositions always included in the questions. The interviewers are feeding him his own falsehoods (it is an even race with the Democrats) and he is pleased by it.
Rove is the master of these fools, together they create propaganda. Are interviewers really so inside the bubble they don't realize it? I thought they were faking it.
But his brightly scrubbed face looks so ernest repeating Rove's lie, I think he is actually believing it. What a fool, a total damn fool. Get wise you idiot, the race is not even! To say it is is either a sign of incredible delusion or simple treachery. Which is it Buddy?
I bet our veterans can educate this reporter if they try. He is doing them a huge disservice by promoting Rove's lies. Shame on him, shame on the both of them.
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Posted by: Ike Solem on Sep 3, 2008 8:33 AM
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For the details of that, see:
http://www.adn.com/money/ industries/oil/pipeline/story/420067.html
Anchorage Daily News: Palin urges 'yes' vote on TransCanada pipeline plan
TRANSCANADA: Legislators told that rejecting plan would put state at mercy of major Slope producers.
By WESLEY LOY, Published: May 29th, 2008 12:01 AM
"The state can't afford not to support TransCanada Corp.'s proposal for a natural gas pipeline, Gov. Sarah Palin and her aides said Wednesday."
In reality, she is a creature of the International Oil Corporations. Her PR office claims that her husband, Todd, has no role in her political affairs and doesn't attend political meetings - but if you look at that article above, there's a nice picture of Sarah Palin conferring with her British Petroleum husband over the Transcanada deal.
Not only that, she's tied to the Ted Steven corruption case (she even worked to build a rail line from her hometown to Ted Steven's ski-resort residence):
Campaign money hurts Palin's outsider image, AP, Sep 3 2008
For one thing, it was reported that she accepted at least $4,500 in campaign contributions in the same fundraising scheme at the center of a public corruption scandal that led to the indictment of Sen. Ted Stevens.
The contributions, made during Palin's failed 2002 bid to become Alaska's lieutenant governor, were not illegal for her to accept. But they show how Palin, a self-proclaimed champion for clean government, has been part of an Alaska political system that is now under the cloud of an ongoing FBI investigation.
That's the real reason McCain chose her - it was his declaration of allegiance to the international oil companies, including BP and Shell, and he was just making it very clear to them that he would support their interests over those of the American public.
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So now we're presented with a blatantly unqualified, downright scary but personally appealing Vice Presidential candidate, who will also appeal to the religious wing-nuts. Sounds like a plan to me. McCain must have some skeletons in his closet we don't know about - start opening doors.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 3, 2008 8:38 AM
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It's a shame that those "values" of abstinence were not followed by her own. It is also a shame that these young people should now be forced into a shot-gun wedding (must we really go back to those days)to appease those "values" voters. It also speaks volumes that her own daughter never appeared to have that talk with her parents regarding sex and her own sexuality!
While I do agree that it isn't my business, neither should it be the governments business when other women get pregnant and "choose" to have an abortion!
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Posted by: outlander55 on Sep 3, 2008 8:46 AM
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Every time I read another article showing Sarah Palins' incompetence, I scratch my head and wonder what in the hell is McSame thinking? It makes me wonder about his competency as a prospective world leader.
Sarah Palin obviously is not qualified to be V.P. But to here the McSame camp praising her qualifications makes me wonder about my sanity. ("Did they really say that"). One of the McSame team told Cambell Brown of CNN that Palin has made more decisions in two years as Governor than Senator Obama has made in his career. When he was asked to give an example, he talked the GOP circle and said nothing. When Brown pressured him, he talked a bigger circle, repeating that Palin had made more decisions than Obama. People, this makes absolutely no sense!!!
The kool-ade is flowing like a river and these morons are going to screw up the country so bad that nothing will fix it.
And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, scares the shit out of me.
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Posted by: concrndnxtdrnbr on Sep 3, 2008 9:05 AM
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Debate instead the need for a medical system that will mend the bones from hurling sticks and stones.
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Posted by: taxidriver on Sep 3, 2008 9:28 AM
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How can you serve two masters, God and money?
What Obama needs to do is to talk about true Christian values--charity, humility, service, even (I daresay) love, and expose Palin and her crowd for what they are: impostors and charlatans who think God should work for gas pipelines in Alaska.
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"8 More Shocking Revelations About Sarah Palin"? This tabloid headline is tooooo much. If only HL Mencken were alive to witness the democratic mob in 2008! When it comes to representative democracy, so-called, nothing has changed in a hundred years!
How did the Liberal / Progressive movement here in the US of A become the fear-ridden, angry, priggish and bitter Cult of Doom? I thought liberalism / progressivism was baed on the idea that people were good, kind and decent.
Sarah Palin, a person I actually know, is not the Anti-Christess nor is she some kind of Saviouress. She's simply a good and decent human being that governs the largest state in the union. There is much to disagree with her politically but why all the slander and innuendo?
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Posted by: blurider on Sep 3, 2008 10:37 AM
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I don't find a mind like yours worth a huge effort and since I do have a life, outside Alternet I'll give you a reply to item #1
This tired, old 'Tax and Spend Liberals' stereotype is so passe it makes me sleeeepyyyy. It's much more symbolic of the era of Karl Rove than of speaking any truth about liberals and of course you and the silly 'cut-and-paste-author' know that.
The facts are very different!!
Reagan left the nation with the largest deficit in history to that point - even inflation-adjusted. He transfered the greatest portion of the nation's wealth into the hands of the smallest number of people than in any time since the era of the industrial robber barons.
Bush #1 famously defined Bushonomics as 'the transfer of the money into the highest, tightest hands'! One must resist the urge to slip the word 'whitest' in there so it reads, 'highest, WHITEST, tightest hands,' but that wouldn't be historically correct.
Clinton told the truth that it would take intelligence and efficiencies - plus some tax increases to fix this deficit. If you understand history any better than your post suggests, you know he did.
Bush #2 not only gave us the highest deficit in history but he did it by channeling the money from the hands of the taxpayer into the wealthy hands of the military-industrial-complex. While doing so he fought and financed the Iraqi war 'off the books' with money he borrowed from the Chinese and Japanese and it's still almost impossible for forensic economists to ferret out the actual cost. Your grandchildren will likely be busy paying this debt, off!
Today we know that every man woman and child alive in the USA owes a share of the national debt amounting to approx. $175,000!
Soon it was revealed that the right had a specific agenda which included taxing and spending - mostly on wars of choice - until the budget was broken, with the stated goal of relieving the nation of any funds which might otherwise be spent on 'left-wing-socialist' programs. You know, things like roads, bridges, electric grids, internet, schools, health care? AND why would you spend money so foolishly on education and infrastructure when you have the choice of spending it on things that go BOOM! and kill third world children.
These Republican policies both steal resources from third world nations which would misuse them for nefarious reasons of course, and eliminate huge numbers of the children of those nations assuring American superiority and improving life style for years to come!
Certainly better than the policies of 'tax-and-spend-liberals' which would waste all that money on foolishness!!
OK folks, help the Republican - who already found his shoes this morning - to find out the real facts about these silly stereotypes!
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We still don't have the truth about whether or not Sarah Palins 5th child is hers or not.
This is the kind of trashy mess which this "abstinence only" stuff leads -- dumb as a post, pregnant and married at age 17 and THAT'S JUST FINE with McCane and the fundies!
Not only is it just fine, this is the ACTUAL REASON they oppose abortion -- because it takes promising young girls out of school, out of college, out of work and LANDS THEM MARRIED AND PREGNANT at age 17.
That is the REASON for everything anti-choice -- to turn the clock back on women and push them back into this kind of ruined life path.
This girl -- her education is shot, she won't be a doctor or a lawyer . . . which is exactly what the fundies want.
So, OF COURSE, the fundies are happy when we have two children in a shotgun wedding over a swollen belly -- THAT'T WHY THEY OPPOSED ABORTION TO BEGIN WITH.
Abortion means female lives get back on track, girls get back to school, women are back at work, taking charge as expected, women are not derailed, pulled off the job -- women are under control and moving ahead.
NOOOOOOO!!! That would be awful!! We WANT 17-year-old pregnant twits with child and married.
McCain has APPROVED the whole nasty, trashy, underclass, sleazy mess!!
DISGUSTING!!!!!
Jan VanDenBerg
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Posted by: GreyFoxThree on Sep 3, 2008 11:14 AM
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Jiff
Is your ISP watching you?
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Posted by: Teresa on Sep 3, 2008 11:19 AM
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Look, the Democratic party left me when it took my vote for granted while waving the abortion flag, as if all that matters to me as a feminist is babies.
Maybe the liberal bloggers have forgotten that Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act and Don't Ask, Don't Tell into law. Maybe the liberal bloggers don't realize that under the current president, the gender wage gap has been the smallest it's ever been (in 2005, 2007). Republicans have their problems -- mostly from the insurgence of evangelicals, but they also manage to get things done.
Lots of talk going on by the Democratic party. What happened to all the changes they were going to make when they won control of Congress two years ago? I helped vote them in and we now have record deficits in my state and taxes being put on our Halloween pumpkins!
The mainstream press won’t examine the issue of why Senator Obama got where he is DESPITE his lack of experience. Those who raise the issue that it came down to race versus gender, like Gerraldine Ferraro, are quickly villified.
I'll vote for McCain-Palin because it's the chance for my daughter to grow up seeing a woman in the White House. The Democrats chose as VP an old male Washington insider with 8000 votes over a woman with 18 million. That wasn't their first mistake, but it was their last for me.
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Posted by: leighsure on Sep 3, 2008 11:26 AM
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Alternet needs to be called to task for the headline for this "article" - the use of the word "shocking" makes it look so tabloid. In addition, some of the "revelations' weren't new, and didn't really need repeating. Let's try to be responsible, huh?
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Posted by: Intihuatana on Sep 3, 2008 11:33 AM
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Maybe I'm overestimating Karl Rove's evil genius here, but I've heard an interesting theory that goes something like this:
Sarah Palin is quite simply a trojan horse. She was meant all along to take a beating from the "liberal media" so that she can drop out of the race in a week or two and gain sympathy for the Republicans. Can you imagine the public's disappointment that a small town "hockey mom" who eats "moose burgers" and has 5 kids including a pregnant daughter was so "mistreated" by the media (and therefore the democrats)? This opens the door for McCain/Rove to usher in their real pick, and the name I've been hearing is Condoleeza Rice.
I just want to get this theory out into the open so that should it go down, we had all heard the possibility raised.
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New reports raise questions about the firing of a local police chief.
After taking over as Mayor of the small town of Wasilla, Palin fired the longtime local police chief. The former police chief, Irl Stambaugh says he was fired because he stepped on the toes of Palin's campaign contributors, including bar owners and the National Rifle Association.
Stambaugh's lawyer, William Jermain, says the chief tried to move up the closing hours of local bars from 5 a.m. to two a.m. after a spurt of drunk driving accidents and arrests.
"His crackdown on that practice by the bars was not appreciated by her and that was one reason she terminated Irl," said Jermain.
In his 1997 lawsuit, Stambaugh also alleged that his stand on restricting concealed weapons upset the NRA.
"Mayor Palin has stated on several occasions that the National Rifle Association encouraged her to fire Chief Stambaugh because of his stance against the concealed weapons legislation," the lawsuit claimed.
Palin says she was up against entrenched insiders when she was elected mayor of Wasilla in 1996.
"We had a lot of people that were kind of dead wood," said Colleen Sullivan Leonard, a staff member in Palin's office. "We needed people with new energy and a new vision."
A federal judge later ruled the mayor, under city law, had the right to fire the police chief for any reason she wanted.
Palin is now facing similar allegations in the state capitol, that politics played a role in her firing of the Alaska public safety commissioner, Walter Monegan.
"It has every possibility of giving the Governor an ethical black eye in an area where she's touted herself as being particularly strong," said Alaskan State Senator Hollis French, a Democrat.
At issue is whether Palin fired the public safety commissioner because he refused to fire a state trooper who was the Governor's brother-in-law and going through an ugly divorce with the Governor's sister.
The Governor has denied any wrongdoing or involvement in the matter, but Senator French, who is leading the investigation has his doubts.
"The Governor first issued a blanket denial," said Sen. French, "and now she's had to back down and that's a problem."
Monday, Palin called for the Alaskan Personnel Board to conduct a formal investigation into Monegan's dismissal "to put these matters to rest".
"The idea that there had been no contact and no pressure doesn't stand up," said Sen. French. "Her credibility I think was damaged in that blanket denial."
The McCain campaign says it's clear that some insiders don't like the fact that Palin has been bucking the status quo to implement change.
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Hey, why don't you hack journalist address that issue?
We need to focus at "reflecting" that kind of rhetoric by showing their anger not ours.
Yet, we have every reason to be more than angry.
Therefore if blog articles by the writers like Isaac Fitzgerald, Tana Ganeva, and Bonnie Fuller would focus on the assinine products the GOP has bequithed Americans and all the reprocusions yet to be felt from the bastards, then maybe the dim witted "un-desided" voters would have a better idea of just why they have to vote Demo.
So, in short, cut the bad mouthing of Palin out. It doesn't help.
It's better to focus on imbicilic plans McCain has layed out and will follow already layed out by the Bush Head.
As well, It is better to focus on Just how Obama is going to repair All the domestic damage and neglegence The Bush head has set in place. Descibe these things and then even the Repuks will understand they should be angry themselves.
You know "Bad publicity is better than no publicity". I know most of you have heard that.
Stop any publicity of Palin on the part of the demo camp. It is a typical Rove/Repuk strategy that has worked wonders for them. Why can't you people get it? It's simply this,
The Repuks way of dishing and dealing politics is to:
1) Ignore the truth. That way they never have to defend their position.
2) Redirect the adversarial position when questioned.
3) Deny, Deny, deny.
4) Deceive
5) Never tell the truth (we all know that one)
6) Always tell a story that things are rosier than they really are.
Oh there are others too! But these are the core approaches
Ya see these Repuks live in a LA LA land in their minds. They never want to know or see how the rest of the world lives. What their only concern is, is to maintain their personal "life style" even if the rest of the Americans have none or are out of the loop to be able to get one.
If you people would focus on domestic issues (You know what they are. I don't have to tell you that too, do I?)
Then you could get to all people instead of fending an us against them mentality.
Use The repuks new slogan, " Country First" The bastards can't copy write that!
Everything the Repuks say and do Reflect it, instead of dodge it!
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Posted by: LeaderofMen on Sep 3, 2008 5:13 PM
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So, McCain doesn't know how many houses he has and she doesn't know the LESS THAN HANDFUL of countries she's visited. Plus, she's never met with ANY head of state anywhere.
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Posted by: loxias on Sep 3, 2008 5:39 PM
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Who has the most money in the world? What is in their best interest? Who wields the most international power? Who dangles the American government, the public, civic and business law, and every politician from their black, oily fingers?
Still don't smell the light, sweet crude?
How and why do you think someone like Palin was suddenly thrust into the state spotlight and somehow triumphed over everyone and became governer out of nowhere?
Bush was a prophet to the manipulators of power. You can install a vacuous literal-biblical, and stop worrying about first-downs.
Still don't see the derricks?
If there is no social conscience at the top to throw up some defense, those that control the current obligatory natural resource will score only touchdowns.
Thus it has been since the dawn of 'civilization'.
As the odors of bitumen, gold and silver slowly waft on, they are replaced by the fetor of germanium, sulphur and mmm... light, sweet crude.
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Posted by: radical53 on Sep 3, 2008 5:51 PM
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Obama is the most inspiring orator since Martin Luther King. He has reasonable, progressive proposals on the economy, health care, energy policy, and foreign policy. He has demonstrated his judgment by opposing the Iraq war, choosing a VP who is eminently qualified, and showing a willingness to make intelligent compromises on a whole range of issues.
.......And the polls say this election is a toss-up. It seems that lies are more persuasive than the truth.
If the Republicans win this one, it's time to pack it in. Please don't let it happen.
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