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Election 2008

Poll-Watch: Obama Gets Biggest Bounce Since '96 Convention; Firms Up Support Among Clinton Voters; Voters Divided on Palin Pick

By AlterNet Staff, AlterNet. Posted September 2, 2008.


Obama appears to have done what he needed to during Dem convention.
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Editor's note: Also see RNC Delegates as Out of Touch as Bush and Other Fun Facts in AlterNet's blog, PEEK.

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Barack Obama appears to have answered some key questions on voters' minds and enjoyed a significant bounce from the Democratic convention. He gained support from those who had supported Hillary Clinton in the primaries, and is allaying concerns that he's not ready to govern. Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, John McCain's running mate, is still unknown to many Americans, but enjoys favorable rating from a majority of those familiar with her in the first days after her selection.

Rasmussen's tracking poll, which had the race for the White House essentially tied on August 28th now shows Obama up by 6 points, joining Gallup's daily tracking poll, in which Obama's expanded his lead over McCain to 8 points. Hotline's latest shows a 9-point spread, and CBS shows Obama up by 8. Real Clear Politics rolling average of recent polls shows Obama up by 6.4 points.

In the Gallup Poll, Obama now has the support of 50 percent of registered voters (to McCain's 42 percent), the first time he's hit that mark and his highest level of support to date.

In CNN's polling, we get an indication of how the selection of Joe Biden and Sarah Palin played into the bounce. In its last pre-convention poll, which didn't mention vice presidential candidates, McCain led Obama by 2 points (42-40). In the latest, which did mention the candidates' running mates, Obama/Biden are up by 3 percent over McCain/ Palin (48-45), a 5-point swing. According to CBS, 71 percent of Americans said they watched the Dems' convention, including 63 percent of Republicans. CNN notes, "the convention made people who watched more likely to vote for the Democratic ticket." By a 51-32 spread, registered voters said the convention made them more likely to vote Dem come November.

Those are the headline numbers, but there are some interesting numbers within the latest round of polling. According to Gallup, the Democratic convention achieved a key goal: creating unity among Dems after a bruising primary fight.

Much attention was given to the fact that only 47% of former Clinton supporters said they were certain to vote for Obama in the pre-convention USA Today/Gallup poll, and that 16% of these voters said they were going to vote for McCain, with another 14% undecided.

The new polling shows that many of these disaffected Clinton voters have now returned to the loyal Democratic fold. The percentage of former Clinton voters who say they are certain to vote for Obama has now jumped to 65%. Although 12% of former Clinton voters persist in saying that they are going to vote for McCain, that's down from 16%, and the percentage who are undecided has dropped in half.

Overall, support for Obama among this group has moved from 70% pre-convention to 81% post-convention.

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Good News !
Posted by: mmckinl on Sep 2, 2008 1:38 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Now maybe Progressives can stop being cheerleaders for DLC policies and assert progressive policy.

Until Progressives and Liberals make themselves heard the Democrats have little reason to listen ...

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» Details Posted by: edgar1
» RE: Details ~ Yep ... Posted by: mmckinl
GOOD NEWS
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Sep 2, 2008 1:44 PM   
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Happy to hear Obama is ahead in the polls. I read a lengthy article in today's NY Times. Women (both parties) are having serious misgivings about Palin. Her priorities upset many of them. What she plans to do is beyond the usual work and children balancing act. Most felt that a child with problems takes preference over a job. It's not just about the choice to have a child, Caring for it is part of the deal. Anna

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» RE: GOOD NEWS Posted by: LionHeart
» RE: GOOD NEWS Posted by: mainspark
The Moment That The...
Posted by: jvaljon1 on Sep 2, 2008 1:52 PM   
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...so-called Democrat "superdelegates" forced Hillary out of the race--the moment that they told Obama "pick whoever you want as your VP, just as long as it's NOT HILLARY..." at that moment I suddenly saw what was at stake for Big PharMa if Hillary was even the VP--and how rich the "superdelegates" must've gotten off of Big PharMa by first, KO-ing Hillary's Presidential bid, and then by making sure that she wasn't even on the VP ticket.

How many times on these boards, have you seen the phrase "I don't trust Hillary." And they never would reply when I asked: "To do what?"

As many of you know, a lot of NeoCONS post on these boards--just as I go on CON sites like Communications, and some others, to post on their boards. So whenever I heard: "I don't TRUST Hillary" I thought it was some looney-tune woman speaking her mind, which for some reason anyone could see was shut tighter than a clam, re Hillary in ANY CAPACITY.

And all of a sudden when Obama was the nominee, the voices stilled. Until it was bandied about that Hillary would make a helluva VP--then, they started posting again. Always the same. "I don't trust Hillary..." and this time I didn't wonder "to do what--?" This time, I got it.

Folks--the Repukes use these sites like Alternet, as their very own sounding boards as how best to attack us.

Watch--now talk is being bandied about, that Hillary should head up Health & Human Services...YOU KIDDING ME? You think that Big PharMa will sit still for the likes of Hillary--basically in charge of their money machine? Giving little folks a break?

Give ME a break! And CONS--if/when Obama does nominate her for H&HS--please don't post "I don't TRUST HILLARY (as head of H&HS)!" Cause then I will ask you in plain English, to explain yourselves as to why you object to the one woman passionate enough to want to bring health care to all--yes, even your slimy selves--heading up the Department of Health and Human Services.

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» RE: The Moment That The... Posted by: EncinoM
» It wasn't Hillary; it was Bill Posted by: scajomar
» A vote for Obama Posted by: rickiey
The Moment That the NeoCONS...
Posted by: jvaljon1 on Sep 2, 2008 2:07 PM   
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...nominated the ONE CANDIDATE who had a prayer and half a hope of prevailing in November, rather than one of their own slimy CON selves--they gave themselves half a chance. But then, full of hubris, they saddled McCain with NeoCON Evangelical Sarah Palin. Who will govern as President when McCain goes to that big pup tent in the sky.

Will govern for a very very long time, and in the end, only old-timers will remember the America that used to be.

Hey McCain--don't turn your back! Not for one moment! This--THIS is the NeoCON triumph! Sarah Palin has disgusted McCain's true Republican base, with the clashing hypocrisies of her own life--but she's made the NeoCONS sigh with relief, and now vow to go to the polls en masse, after all.

Which if you all remember, to a man (and woman) they had vowed to stay home if McSame was The Nominee for Republicans.

And this pick for Repub VP, has disgusted the Repuke base--the "moderates" so much, that they're threatening to "stay home" on Election Day! How FREAKIN' IRONIC IS THIS?! McFool, just torpedoed himself while giving his ideological opponents a new lease on life!

And then, the NeoCON pigs had the nerve--the utter GALL--to say, "See? We're the ones WHO INVENTED THE "GLASS CEILING"--NOW LOOK HOW WE "BREAK" IT OURSELVES!"

They didn't fool anyone. Sarah Palin is the antithesis of everything that Hillary Clinton ever stood for. Palin has whored for Big Oil for years and years, so she's well-to-do and can afford any health care that she wants. The rest of us are not so lucky. Palin isn't any "glass ceiling". She's the one hope that NeoCONS have left, of achieving the White House.

America has CONS' measure now, and we're one election away from getting rid of the lot of them...hence Palin as McSame's VP. The more Republicans that realize this--the more they ought NOT to stay home--but to vote for Obama instead of McSame and Palin.

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Unrealiable poll numbers when race is involved....
Posted by: CatDad on Sep 2, 2008 2:35 PM   
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Poll numbers have been proven to be notoriously unreliable when the election is between a white and black candidate....People are afraid of appearing to be racist during the polling process and will not acknowledge their support for the white candidate even though they are in fact supporting the candidate. The poll numbers for Democratic Senate candidate Harold Ford Jr. in the Tennessee race were off by around 9% from the actual election results...He lost in spite of numerous "polls" showing the race as dead even. The same thing occurred for the recent PA governor race.

We know that the GOP has been very successful in overt/peripheral appeals to racism should they feel that they have to resort to these tactics to win. Below is an example of what we may expect:
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In October 2006, as polls indicated that Ford (the black Democratic candidate) maintained a slight lead in the Senate race, the Republican Party ran a television advertisement where a white woman, played by Johanna Goldsmith, talks about meeting Ford, who was unmarried at the time, at "the Playboy party." The ad was denounced by many people, including former Republican Senator and Secretary of Defense under Bill Clinton, William Cohen, who called it “a very serious appeal to a racist sentiment.” Corker himself asked the Republican leadership to pull the ad, which it refused to do. Corker subsequently pulled ahead in the polls.

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Don't worry. The cracks in Mccain/Palin should make it easy for Obama/Biden to win.
Posted by: jwverez on Sep 2, 2008 3:12 PM   
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If Obama/Biden cannot win despite the blatant hypocrisy of Mccain/Palin, well, I don't even wanna think about it ...

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Get Real
Posted by: edgar1 on Sep 2, 2008 5:15 PM   
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Anyone who thinks that many voters are telling pollsters the truth needs to take a long vacation from the stress of the election.

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By the way, what about the true moderate/independent voters?
Posted by: maxpayne on Sep 2, 2008 5:35 PM   
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The Obama/Biden camp will have to overcome the media frenzy provided they didn't vote with the GOP most of the time. Mccain's pulled a "Newt Gingrich" and Palin's pulling a "Nixon". Still, despite the rightwing media trying to "defend" Mccain/Palin, Obama/Biden should be aiming for double digit leads. Reach out to moderate and/or independent swing voters and turn the rightwing "morality" bullshit against the GOP. Ike could never be a GOP in today's version of the party !

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Polls, schmolls...
Posted by: Obama2008Fan on Sep 2, 2008 7:43 PM   
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The only thing that counts is the November election. If you don't think the Republican Party will do anything short of assassination to beat Barack Obama (and I'm not too sure about that), think again.

Look at AlterNet. It is riddled by GOP trolls, leftist whackos, anarchists, rightwing creeps, stealth conservatives, disgruntled voters, bitter Hillary supporters, bigots, etc, They love to spread discontent and misinformation on progressive threads. You can bet your bippy that doesn't happen on GOP blogs. Republicans know what party unity means. They also know how to divide and conquer and it's working quite well, right under our noses on AlterNet.

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» RE: Polls, schmolls... Posted by: CatDad
» RE: Polls, schmolls... Posted by: willymack
Keep living in a bubble - obsessing over some poll as if there is a real choice
Posted by: PakiBoy on Sep 2, 2008 7:53 PM   
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to be made or there is some real election to look forward to.

Get real and look in the living rooms of the majority of americans glued to the idiot box getting dumber with each rerun of some mind-numbing reality show.

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It would help if the polls were
Posted by: riley on Sep 3, 2008 4:53 AM   
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published by state. Then we could tell where the sell-outs are going to be and how the election will be rigged.

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Nice Horse Race piece
Posted by: DaBear on Sep 3, 2008 8:56 AM   
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Kinda like the mainstream media. How progressive is that?

On Alternet I expect to see polling data on third parties, data that is more relevant to, and revealing of, the facts or public perceptions from a class, race, gender consciousness. Not merely regurgitation of the mainstream corporate owned hoo hah.

The only reason I read the damned thing was because there was a promise to reveal some info about peoples' responses to Palin. Instead, I get a non sequitur in the final paragraph. Brilliant.

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