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Obama and McCain: The Stakes Are Too Huge for 'Civil' Politics
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As the real campaign at last begins in Denver this week, this much is certain: It's time for Barack Obama to dispatch "Change We Can Believe In" to a dignified death.
This isn't because -- OMG! -- Obama's narrow three- to four-percentage-point lead of recent weeks dropped to a statistically indistinguishable one- to three-point margin during his week of vacation. It's because zero hour is here. As the presidential race finally gains the country's full attention, the strategy that vanquished Hillary Clinton must be rebooted to take out John McCain.
"Change We Can Believe In" was brilliantly calculated for a Democratic familial brawl where every candidate was promising nearly identical change from George Bush. It branded Obama as the sole contender with the un-Beltway biography, credibility and political talent to link the promise of change to the nation's onrushing generational turnover in all its cultural (and, yes, racial) manifestations. McCain should be a far easier mark than Clinton if Obama retools his act.
What we have learned this summer is this: McCain's trigger-happy temperament and reactionary policies offer worse than no change. He is an unstable bridge back not just to Bush policies but to an increasingly distant 20th-century America that is still fighting Red China in Vietnam and the Soviet Union in the cold war. As the country tries to navigate the fast-moving changes of the 21st century, McCain would put America on hold.
What Obama also should have learned by now is that the press is not his friend. Of course, he gets more ink and airtime than McCain; he's sexier news. But as George Mason University's Center for Media and Public Affairs documented in its study of six weeks of TV news reports this summer, Obama's coverage was 28 percent positive, 72 percent negative. (For McCain, the split was 43/57.) Even McCain's most blatant confusions, memory lapses and outright lies still barely cause a ripple, whether he's railing against a piece of pork he in fact voted for, as he did at the Saddleback Church pseudodebate last weekend, or falsifying crucial details of his marital history in his memoirs, as The Los Angeles Times uncovered in court records last month.
What should Obama do now? As premature panic floods through certain liberal precincts, there's no shortage of advice: more meat to his economic plan, more passion in his stump delivery, less defensiveness in response to attacks and, as is now happening, sharper darts at a McCain lifestyle so extravagant that we are only beginning to learn where all the beer bullion is buried.
But Obama is never going to be a John Edwards-style populist barnburner. (Edwards wasn't persuasive either, by the way.) Nor will wonkish laundry lists of policy details work any better for him than they did for Al Gore or Hillary Clinton. Obama has those details to spare, in any case, while McCain, who didn't even include an education policy on his Web site during primary season, is still winging it. As David Leonhardt observes in his New York Times Magazine cover article on "Obamanomics" today, Obama's real problem is not a lack of detail but his inability to sell policy with "an effective story."
That story is there to be told, but it has to be a story that is more about America and the future and less about Obama and his past. After all these months, most Americans, for better or worse, know who Obama is. So much so that he seems to have fought off the relentless right-wing onslaught to demonize him as an elitist alien. Asked in last week's New York Times/CBS News poll if each candidate shares their values, registered voters gave Obama and McCain an identical 63 percent. Asked if each candidate "cares about the needs and problems of people like yourself," Obama beat McCain by 37 to 23 percent. Is the candidate "someone you can relate to"? Obama: 55 percent, McCain: 41. Even before McCain told Politico that he relies on the help to count up the houses he owns, he was the candidate seen as the out-of-step elitist.
So while Obama can continue to try to reassure resistant Clinton loyalists in Appalachia that he's not a bogeyman from Madrassaland, he must also move on to the bigger picture for everyone else. He must rekindle the "fierce urgency of now" -- but not, as he did in the primaries, merely to evoke uplifting echoes of the civil-rights struggle or the need for withdrawal from Iraq.
Most Americans, unlike the press, are not obsessed by race. (Those whites who are obsessed by race will not vote for Obama no matter what he or anyone else has to say about it.) And most Americans have turned their backs on the Iraq war, no matter how much McCain keeps bellowing about "victory." The Bush White House is now poised to alight with the Iraqi government on a withdrawal timetable far closer to Obama's 16 months than McCain's vague promise of a 2013 endgame. As Gen. David Petraeus returns home, McCain increasingly resembles those mad Japanese soldiers who remained at war on remote Pacific islands years after Hiroshima.
Economic anxiety is the new terrorism. This is why the most relevant snapshot of voters' concerns was not to be found at Saddleback Church but at the Olympics last Saturday. For all the political press's hype, only some 5.5 million viewers tuned in to the Rev. Rick Warren's show in Orange County, Calif. Roughly three-quarters of them were over 50 -- in other words, the McCain base. By contrast, a diverse audience of 32 million Americans tuned in to Beijing that night to watch Michael Phelps win his eighth gold medal.
This was a rare feel-good moment for a depressed country. But the unsettling subtext of the Olympics has been as resonant for Americans as the Phelps triumph. You couldn't watch NBC's weeks of coverage without feeling bombarded by an ascendant China whose superior cache of gold medals and dazzling management of the Games became a proxy for its spectacular commercial and cultural prowess in the new century. Even before the Olympics began, a July CNN poll found that 70 percent of Americans fear China's economic might -- about as many as find America on the wrong track. Americans watching the Olympics could not escape the reality that China in particular and Asia in general will continue to outpace our country in growth while we remain mired in stagnancy and debt (much of it held by China).
How we dig out of this quagmire is the American story that Obama must tell. It is not a story of endless conflicts abroad but a potentially inspiring tale of serious economic, educational, energy and health-care mobilization at home. We don't have the time or resources to go off on more quixotic military missions or to indulge in culture wars. (In China, they're too busy exploiting scientific advances for competitive advantage to reopen settled debates about Darwin.) Americans must band together for change before the new century leaves us completely behind. The Obama campaign actually has plans, however imperfect or provisional, to set us on that path; the McCain campaign offers only disposable Band-Aids typified by the "drill now" mantra that even McCain says will only have a "psychological" effect on gas prices.
Even as it points to America's future, the Obama campaign also has the duty to fill in its opponent's past. McCain's attacks on Obama have worked: in last week's Los Angeles Times-Bloomberg poll, Obama's favorable rating declined from 59 to 48 percent and his negative rating rose from 27 to 35. Yet McCain still has a lower positive rating (46 percent) and higher negative rating (38) than Obama. McCain is not nearly as popular among Americans, it turns out, as he is among his journalistic camp followers. Should voters actually get to know him, he has nowhere to go but down.
The argument against Obama's "going negative" is that it undermines his message of "transcendent politics" and will make him look like an "angry black man." But pacifistic politics is an oxymoron, and Obama is constitutionally incapable of coming off angrier than McCain. A few more fisticuffs from the former law professor (and many more from his running mate and other surrogates) can only help make him look less skinny (metaphorically if not literally). Obama should go after McCain's supposedly biggest asset -- experience -- much as McCain went after Obama's crowd-drawing celebrity.
It is, after all, not mere happenstance that so many conservative pundits -- Rich Lowry, Peggy Noonan, Ramesh Ponnuru -- have, to McCain's irritation, proposed that he "patriotically" declare in advance that he will selflessly serve only a single term. Whatever their lofty stated reasons for promoting this stunt, their underlying message is clear: They recognize in their heart of hearts that the shelf life of McCain's experience has already reached its expiration date.
Is a man who is just discovering the Internet qualified to lead a restoration of America's economic and educational infrastructures? Is the leader of a virtually all-white political party America's best salesman and moral avatar in the age of globalization? Does a bellicose Vietnam veteran who rushed to hitch his star to the self-immolating overreaches of Ahmad Chalabi, Pervez Musharraf and Mikheil Saakashvili have the judgment to keep America safe?
R.I.P., "Change We Can Believe In." The fierce urgency of the 21st century demands Change Before It's Too Late.
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But suddenly, Obama slips his rhetoric to the safe center and the polls begin to reverse as some of his supporters begin to think he may only be just another politician, full of beautiful promises, but committed to serving his big campaign contributors and back-room advisors. So, now the election looks like it may be another cliff-hanger. That would make three in a row from 2000.
How is that possible? The people are ready for real change in Washington! But the question is - how ready is the Washington Establishment for real change? I'm referring to what has come to be called "the permanent government" the massive bureaucracy that runs Washington day by day, month by month, year by year, and the Senators and Representatives, and all the corporate lobbyists who bribe them for business and pleasure. Do they want real change in Washington? Nah! In fact, they want to go the other way completely, and the Republicans are their insurance for business as usual just as if there had been no election at all.
So, how can they do it? Easy, the same way they did in 2000 and 2004 - wherever Republicans control the voting procedures, strip thousands of Democrats from the registration lists and pre-program the electronic voting machines with no paper receipt.
The result will be a very close election with McCain the winner. That way, enough naive Democrats will say "Damn, we almost made it! So, let's work twice as hard to win in 2012!"
So, how many American citizens are going to fall for this scam one more time? I guess that partly depends on how many are out of work, bankrupt and hungry - a growing number from what I hear.
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Posted by: weathered on Aug 25, 2008 3:20 AM
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While change is a constant, a part of the continuum, the rate of change today is a f-ckin blur.
Panic is as bad as apathy. I don't envy Barack, I hope he knows a few civil engineers.
- and little Joey Biden missed his calling as the cheating lawyer on 'Days of our Lives'.
McCain needs daycare and the media needs to experience civil and criminal class action suits to re-acquaint itself w/civic duty and their disgraceful breach of trust.
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Posted by: Peter Mackrael on Aug 25, 2008 6:47 AM
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In the 2004 presidential race, 121 million votes were cast. Since there were 220 million eligible votors, only 55% voted. About 99 million eligible votors abstained. Bush-Cheney won this election with 62 million votes or 50.7%. Kerry-Edwards received 59 million votes or 48.3%, a difference of only 3 million votes. Over 2 million votes were not counted due to spoiled ballots. Based on exit polls, I think there was a strong likelyhood of election fraud, particularly in Ohio and Florida, that may have redirected over 2 million votes from Kerry to Bush. This race was very close.
Recent polls among decided votors show popular support to be about even for McCain and Obama, so if the 2008 election were held now, it would again be very close.
Studies show that the Democratic Party has alienated most of the working class and large sections of the middle class that were once solid supporters. Some of these people vote Republican out of fear and "patriotism" but tens of millions simply abstain. If Obama hopes to ensure victory, he must find a way to convince at least 5 million of those undecided and alienated votors to come out and vote for Obama-Biden in November. He needs to give them a a very strong reason. Simply promising "change" will not do it. He must convince them that the Democratic Party intends to work for these people and that he will break the grip of powerful interests in Washington.
People know that implementing real change in Washington will be very difficult, but unless Obama can present a platform that clearly differentiates Democrats from Republicans with objectives that inspire working class and middle class votors to get out and vote, I fear he will loose this election.
He needs to unite his party behind a few very specific objectives that his party will support and that can be achieved in his first term. Universal Health Care could be one, but so far Obama has not presented a true "universal plan" paid for through federal taxes. He has a lot to do in three months if he wants to unite Democrats and present himself as the "peoples" president. It will be interesting.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 25, 2008 7:59 AM
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This guy can barely remember where he sleeps at night - so why should he hold the highest office in this country.
Yes, Obama does need to take the gloves off and lay out the truth to the American people. On the other hand, he was trying to stay above the dirty politics that the current administration has perfected. However, I think if he lays bare the way that we as a country need to go and how we need to go about it, it just might encourage people to overcome their personal prejudices about him being an African-American.
My question to all white people that are afraid of voting for Obama is this, after years of voting for and putting white men in office that have done nothing for the average American - no lower taxes unless you make millions already, jobs hemorrhaging overseas, stagnant wages, healthcare crises, mortgage meltdowns, wars of choice - what exactly do you believe that this African-American man will do that is worse than what we already have!
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Posted by: AJR Journal on Aug 25, 2008 8:06 AM
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Don't make me laugh.
He is where he is only because he has been cleared to not rock-the-boat. He is a go-along-to-get-along candidate and a product of the Chicago Machine.
Be skeptical, be very skeptical!
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Posted by: thebeerdoctor on Aug 25, 2008 8:06 AM
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The right wing republican attack machine have tried to portray Mr. Obama as an elitist. This is preposterous on the face of it, since Obama grew up middle class, and for periods of time, lower middle class. His crime according to the phobic zealots, is that he achieved his place in the world through his own efforts, not by "the divine right of birth" as Warren Buffet pointed out about the rich, such as George Bush, who simply inherit their start in life.
The race card attempted to be pulled, is an ugly throw back to the 20th century. Perhaps we will see if enough people in this country, no longer buy into that nonsense.
I wish I could support Senator Obama. But his comments at the AIPAC conference was the deal breaker. I simply can not vote for a candidate that states that military aid to Israel is "sacrosanct".
It is also true that voting for Senator McCain would be insane.
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Posted by: jebpgh on Aug 25, 2008 8:57 AM
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The US relationship with Israel is the third rail of international politics for any US candidate - all the more so for one who has family members who are practicing Muslims. I would give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Aug 25, 2008 9:54 AM
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We need clean air,pure water and safe growing soils,We need jobs that pay a'living wage' not just a minimum starvation wage, We need cars and trucks and buses that are ultra high mileage,cleaner operateing, proud to own machines. We need to take healthcare away from insurance companies. We need affordable housing. We can do all this without Obama or McCain. Why? Because we're Americans dammit!!!!
We have no need for 'business as usual' morons,neocons or right wing christians.
We just need to not wait for anyone else to do what we can. History proves when we wait for the blessings of the Congress we'd have been better off with a prostate exam. We can do more for ourselves than any congress,president or international corporation could. The first step is to stop thinking we're powerless,we are the powerful and we become weak when we give our power over to some 'representitive'. Screw the system,they've been doing it to us for hundreds of years.
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Posted by: Last Chance on Aug 25, 2008 2:52 AM
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But suddenly, Obama slips his rhetoric to the safe center and the polls begin to reverse as some of his supporters begin to think he may only be just another politician, full of beautiful promises, but committed to serving his big campaign contributors and back-room advisors. So, now the election looks like it may be another cliff-hanger. That would make three in a row from 2000.
How is that possible? The people are ready for real change in Washington! But the question is - how ready is the Washington Establishment for real change? I'm referring to what has come to be called "the permanent government" the massive bureaucracy that runs Washington day by day, month by month, year by year, and the Senators and Representatives, and all the corporate lobbyists who bribe them for business and pleasure. Do they want real change in Washington? Nah! In fact, they want to go the other way completely, and the Republicans are their insurance for business as usual just as if there had been no election at all.
So, how can they do it? Easy, the same way they did in 2000 and 2004 - wherever Republicans control the voting procedures, strip thousands of Democrats from the registration lists and pre-program the electronic voting machines with no paper receipt.
The result will be a very close election with McCain the winner. That way, enough naive Democrats will say "Damn, we almost made it! So, let's work twice as hard to win in 2012!"
So, how many American citizens are going to fall for this scam one more time? I guess that partly depends on how many are out of work, bankrupt and hungry - a growing number from what I hear.
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Posted by: weathered on Aug 25, 2008 3:20 AM
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While change is a constant, a part of the continuum, the rate of change today is a f-ckin blur.
Panic is as bad as apathy. I don't envy Barack, I hope he knows a few civil engineers.
- and little Joey Biden missed his calling as the cheating lawyer on 'Days of our Lives'.
McCain needs daycare and the media needs to experience civil and criminal class action suits to re-acquaint itself w/civic duty and their disgraceful breach of trust.
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Posted by: Peter Mackrael on Aug 25, 2008 6:47 AM
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In the 2004 presidential race, 121 million votes were cast. Since there were 220 million eligible votors, only 55% voted. About 99 million eligible votors abstained. Bush-Cheney won this election with 62 million votes or 50.7%. Kerry-Edwards received 59 million votes or 48.3%, a difference of only 3 million votes. Over 2 million votes were not counted due to spoiled ballots. Based on exit polls, I think there was a strong likelyhood of election fraud, particularly in Ohio and Florida, that may have redirected over 2 million votes from Kerry to Bush. This race was very close.
Recent polls among decided votors show popular support to be about even for McCain and Obama, so if the 2008 election were held now, it would again be very close.
Studies show that the Democratic Party has alienated most of the working class and large sections of the middle class that were once solid supporters. Some of these people vote Republican out of fear and "patriotism" but tens of millions simply abstain. If Obama hopes to ensure victory, he must find a way to convince at least 5 million of those undecided and alienated votors to come out and vote for Obama-Biden in November. He needs to give them a a very strong reason. Simply promising "change" will not do it. He must convince them that the Democratic Party intends to work for these people and that he will break the grip of powerful interests in Washington.
People know that implementing real change in Washington will be very difficult, but unless Obama can present a platform that clearly differentiates Democrats from Republicans with objectives that inspire working class and middle class votors to get out and vote, I fear he will loose this election.
He needs to unite his party behind a few very specific objectives that his party will support and that can be achieved in his first term. Universal Health Care could be one, but so far Obama has not presented a true "universal plan" paid for through federal taxes. He has a lot to do in three months if he wants to unite Democrats and present himself as the "peoples" president. It will be interesting.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 25, 2008 7:59 AM
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This guy can barely remember where he sleeps at night - so why should he hold the highest office in this country.
Yes, Obama does need to take the gloves off and lay out the truth to the American people. On the other hand, he was trying to stay above the dirty politics that the current administration has perfected. However, I think if he lays bare the way that we as a country need to go and how we need to go about it, it just might encourage people to overcome their personal prejudices about him being an African-American.
My question to all white people that are afraid of voting for Obama is this, after years of voting for and putting white men in office that have done nothing for the average American - no lower taxes unless you make millions already, jobs hemorrhaging overseas, stagnant wages, healthcare crises, mortgage meltdowns, wars of choice - what exactly do you believe that this African-American man will do that is worse than what we already have!
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Posted by: AJR Journal on Aug 25, 2008 8:06 AM
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Don't make me laugh.
He is where he is only because he has been cleared to not rock-the-boat. He is a go-along-to-get-along candidate and a product of the Chicago Machine.
Be skeptical, be very skeptical!
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Posted by: thebeerdoctor on Aug 25, 2008 8:06 AM
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The right wing republican attack machine have tried to portray Mr. Obama as an elitist. This is preposterous on the face of it, since Obama grew up middle class, and for periods of time, lower middle class. His crime according to the phobic zealots, is that he achieved his place in the world through his own efforts, not by "the divine right of birth" as Warren Buffet pointed out about the rich, such as George Bush, who simply inherit their start in life.
The race card attempted to be pulled, is an ugly throw back to the 20th century. Perhaps we will see if enough people in this country, no longer buy into that nonsense.
I wish I could support Senator Obama. But his comments at the AIPAC conference was the deal breaker. I simply can not vote for a candidate that states that military aid to Israel is "sacrosanct".
It is also true that voting for Senator McCain would be insane.
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Posted by: jebpgh on Aug 25, 2008 8:57 AM
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The US relationship with Israel is the third rail of international politics for any US candidate - all the more so for one who has family members who are practicing Muslims. I would give him the benefit of the doubt.
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» As a Muslim
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Posted by: jeffrey7 on Aug 25, 2008 9:54 AM
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We need clean air,pure water and safe growing soils,We need jobs that pay a'living wage' not just a minimum starvation wage, We need cars and trucks and buses that are ultra high mileage,cleaner operateing, proud to own machines. We need to take healthcare away from insurance companies. We need affordable housing. We can do all this without Obama or McCain. Why? Because we're Americans dammit!!!!
We have no need for 'business as usual' morons,neocons or right wing christians.
We just need to not wait for anyone else to do what we can. History proves when we wait for the blessings of the Congress we'd have been better off with a prostate exam. We can do more for ourselves than any congress,president or international corporation could. The first step is to stop thinking we're powerless,we are the powerful and we become weak when we give our power over to some 'representitive'. Screw the system,they've been doing it to us for hundreds of years.
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» It sounds like your saying to our politicians "LEAD OR GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WAY"
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Posted by: Garvagh on Aug 25, 2008 4:47 PM
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