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Election 2008

Corporate America Prepares for Battle Against Worker Campaign to Roll Back Assault on the Middle Class

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted August 8, 2008.


Big business has prepared a war chest of at least $150 million to stop progressive economic legislation that would seriously tax the rich.
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There is nothing more terrifying to corporate America than the prospect of dealing with its workforce on an even playing field, and, along with allies on the Right, it's pulling out all the stops to keep that from happening. At stake is much more than the usual tax breaks, trade deals and relentless deregulation; corporations are gearing up for a fight to preserve a status quo in which the largest share of America's national income goes to profits and the smallest share to wages since the Great Depression -- in fact, since the government started tracking those figures.

There will be many heated legislative battles if 2008 shakes out with larger Congressional majorities for Democrats and an Obama White House -- fights over war and peace, energy policy, health care reform and immigration. But it may be a bill that many Americans have never heard of that sparks the most pitched battle Washington has seen since the Civil Rights Act. It's called the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA) -- a measure that would go a long way toward guaranteeing working people the right to join a union if they so choose -- and it has the potential to reverse more than three decades of painful stagflation, with prices rising and paychecks flat, for America's middle class and working poor.

The Chamber of Commerce, D.C. lobbyists, firms that rely on cheap labor and a host of "astroturf" front groups are building a war chest that could reach hundreds of millions of dollars in an effort to build a firewall against EFCA and other efforts to put a check on corporate power and rebuild a declining middle class. A recent report on the front page of the Wall Street Journal about how Wal-Mart -- the nation's largest employer -- is "mobilizing its store managers and department supervisors" in an effort to discourage its workers from voting Democratic this fall generated quite a bit of controversy. According to a report in the National Journal that received less attention, "several business-backed groups ... (including) two fledgling coalitions fighting labor-supported legislation and the conservative political group Freedom's Watch are trying to raise $100 million for issue advocacy and get-out-the-vote efforts to benefit about 10 GOP Senate races."

It's the EFCA -- the idea that working people who want to join a union can -- that has corporate America quaking in its collective boots. The bill passed the House easily in 2007 -- by 56 votes -- and had majority support in the Senate. But it didn't reach the 60 votes required to kill a GOP-led filibuster, and that massive war chest being amassed by the corporate Right is, in part, an attempt to maintain a firewall of at least 41 anti-union senators -- mostly Republicans joined by a few corporatist Dems -- to kill the bill in the 2009 Congress. President Bush threatened to veto the legislation if it had passed in 2007, but this time around, they fear that a Democrat will be sitting in the White House. Obama was a co-sponsor of the 2007 legislation; McCain opposed it.

The prospect of a filibuster-proof majority that's sympathetic to the needs of ordinary working Americans, according to the National Journal, is making "business groups jittery." Polls show that the economy is Americans' number one concern going into this fall's election; fully 75 percent of Americans believe the country is on the wrong track, and these well-funded groups are intent on keeping it firmly on that track.

American Wages and the Law of Supply and Demand

At the heart of the bloody cage match that's likely to come is this: In economic terms, the wages of many -- probably most -- Americans represent a "market failure" of massive proportions. Even the most devout of free-marketeers -- economists like Alan Greenspan and the late Milton Friedman -- agree that it's appropriate and necessary for government to intervene in the case of those failures (they believe it's the only time that such "meddling" is appropriate). But the corporate Right, which claims to have an almost religious reverence for the power of "free" and functional markets, has gotten fat off of this particular market failure, and it's dead-set on continuing to game the system for its own enrichment.

About 1 in 4 Americans has at least a four-year college degree, and many of those degrees are even worth something in the labor market (sorry, art history majors). Others -- Derek Jeter, Bill Gates, a gifted artist or a writer who can turn a decent phrase -- have specialized skills that allow them to command an income that's as high as the market for their scarce talents will bear. There are also people with more common skills who have the scratch (and/or connections) and fortitude to establish their own businesses -- think George W. Bush or a really great mechanic who owns his or her own shop.


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Blah, blah, blah!
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Aug 8, 2008 12:45 AM   
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This nation has scorned the worker since its inception. Sweatshops, mill towns, child labor, "coolies," racism, anti-feminism, outsourcing, union busting and more. So, a bunch of insulated pundits say big change is looming and I say blah, blah, blah. Whether now or in January, 09, there will be no change because money talks and suckers walk. If you can swallow the Bush menu for 8 goddam years, on top of Reagan to Bush and every stop along the way, what the hell suggests that suddenly, miraculously, the same morons that elected the perpetrators are going to replace them with a better ilk? Oh, Pelosi and Reid will lead us to the promised land of Obamarama? Huh, whatever the hell that is. I have more faith in Dennis Kucinich and Paul Volcker, whose retirement from the Federal Reserve Board precipitated the neocons trashing of the economy. Now, with Kucinich as Speaker and Volcker back in place there would be real hope for economic progress and balance that will help the labor movement and without them I see blah, blah, blah because the public are stupid and Congress is corrupt through and through.

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» RE: Blah, blah, blah! Posted by: jstepp590
» RE: bitch, bitch, bitch Posted by: fearn
» RE: bitch, bitch, bitch Posted by: jstepp590
» RE: bitch, bitch, bitch Posted by: culheath
» RE: bitch, bitch, bitch Posted by: hagwind
» Top Post Posted by: BlueGorilla
Nothing Can Be Done About It...
Posted by: ranchero42 on Aug 8, 2008 1:09 AM   
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Is the wrong attitude to take. It's a tangential argument that could only have its origins from the right. This logic springs from the same quarter as the idea that the government is a mindless, faceless, amorphous mass. I have no power against this entity and therefore cede all power it would want to a "thing" in which I can see no reflection of anyone or anything I know. I feel sorry for those who continue to allow themselves to be blinded by the neo-con shit-slinging machine. What most people don't understand about the right wing is that the edge they seem to have in the political arena is all smoke and mirrors-being resolute in this campaign of shit is no real advantage if you know it's all just shit. Capisce?

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Unions are centralized and conquerable
Posted by: synx on Aug 8, 2008 1:38 AM   
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You're kidding, right? Unions are going to save us? Unions?

Unions are like any centralized group of people, only as good as the people in charge. Who has time, money, food, and resources to run a union, especially one pitted against a major corporation? I'll tell you who has that much time. A major corporation.

What is to stop the awful nasty corporates from pretending to be workers, and forming a "union" that they then strongarm other workers into joining? Did you know that there are quite a few jobs out there where union membership is a mandatory condition of employment? That's right, the company will not hire you if you don't pay the union its monthly union dues. Are these companies just so intimidated by this fearsome union that they dare not hire anyone who isn't under its benevolent protections? Ha! Here's the truth of it, companies make fake unions, to prevent workers from making their own. Companies generate artificial imaginary conflict and negotiation, but somehow the union keeps getting bogged down in closed door negotiations and mysterious legal technicalities.

Okay, here's a good illustration of just what wool they're pulling over your eyes. Which do you like better: Coke or Pepsi? Answer: they both taste the SAME, they are both cola! Even if there are slight differences in taste, the two companies are not competing, and they are not rivals. Instead, they are merely two parts of a greater whole, a headless market beast that seeks to destroy us all just to siphon wealth up to its top stockholders. Coke and Pepsi deliberately pretend to fight, and pretend to be different, so that they can prey heartlessly on your instincts of loyalty and community. And in this imaginary, fake conflict, nobody ever realizes the whole thing is one big complex question. Which do you like better, Coke or Pepsi? i.e. You drink cola, and you enjoy drinking cola, and now that you're forced to agree with that, which brand do you like better? My answer is water! Guess how many other people I've met with an answer like that? Zero.

It's the same with unions. Didn't anyone watch The Matrix? Just like the metaphor of how machines fabricate a Zion to slake mankind's need to have something to fight against, so do the corporations and their marketing departments form false fake corpuses that they try to pass off as unions. Any real unions they destroy. Any they can't destroy, they infiltrate with management. And eventually membership to this false union becomes mandatory for employment, and once that happens the union is no longer a union, merely another branch of the company's human resources department.

Unions aren't around today, because corporate marketers have successfully found crippling unresolvable flaws that totally compromise everything a union would stand for. They weren't destroyed by some kind of corporate battering ram, they were devoured from within. If you think unions are going to come back like the New Haven Elm, you got another thing coming.

I am fully in support of any laws that help workers organize. It just seems like too little, too late. I just don't know what we can do at this point. You lose more money working than you do not working, and faced with that kind of horror how do you feed yourself?

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» Excellent points synx Posted by: dover23
» RE: xcellent points synx Posted by: Mr Nelson
» RE: xcellent points synx Posted by: dover23
» Way to go, Beck! Posted by: hagwind
ONE CORPIRATE NATION RULES THE WORLD! Decorpiratize or go Bust!
Posted by: williameon on Aug 8, 2008 2:14 AM   
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It is on every TV show,
It's on all the Radios
Just one big pile of:
Corpirate BU__ SH__!

It's in all the magazines and
On all the movie Screens
Just one big pile of:
Corpirate SH-T!

The Homogenization of Human Life
To the lowest
Corpirate Common Denominator
GREED!

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Unions 'Leaders' that actually serve the Rank & File ??
Posted by: Purple Girl on Aug 8, 2008 3:59 AM   
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As a Michigander I have seen how Unions can help workers and screw them.
Far too many union 'leaders' are in th epocket of the Corps - nothing more then Co Conspirators. Hold a fee union meetings, talk the talk- then walk the walk right out the door and on to the Golf Course with their Corp Buddies.
There are union officals who are pulling down salaries, twice the amount of their workers they are meant to be advocates for.As a Journeyman my husband made about 40,000 last year- the 'BA's' took home about 80,000-salaried. When work is slow- too bad for the members/workers, but the 'mamangemet' will still get theirs.
Many Union 'leaders' are members of the 'Good Ol' Boys' Club too!

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Union Busting
Posted by: US Citizen on Aug 8, 2008 5:11 AM   
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But first we get to live through the 2008 Presidential election when John McCain will pick "Blackwater Mitt" Romney as his vice president. Blackwater is just itching to fulfill its true mission which is domestic union-busting right here in the United States.

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» RE: Union Busting Posted by: jstepp590
» RE: Union Busting Posted by: maxpayne
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The term "Middle Class" has been redefined in the last 28 years. Let the "economy" collapse please.
Posted by: jwverez on Aug 8, 2008 6:12 AM   
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Our system is too corrupt to be cleaned. Let's all just finish slopping up the fossil fuels, go nuclear, trash our planet with GM BULLSHIT, and get it over with ! Oh by the way, if you really want change, don't vote for either the Democrats or Republicans as they're all rubberstamp/pansy ASSHOLES !

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» Dark Knight Posted by: LeaderofMen
False Labor Hopes
Posted by: david.model@senecac.on.ca on Aug 8, 2008 6:19 AM   
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Clearly, the new EFCA legislation will be a step forward for workers in America but any delusions that workers will be close to a level playing field are misplaced. There are simply too many flaws in our free market system to overcome with a bandage solution while ignoring the real structural problems.

One of the mosr critical problem in the principle that price will be determined by the laws of supply and demand ignores the piece of the price that is missing, namely externalities. Companies to not pay for environmental damage which they cause or the harm and inadequate wages of those products imported from sweatshops.

Without any external discipline in the free markets, both high executive salaries and dividends to shareholders can suck wealth away from the pot from which workers draw their salaies.

Another serious problem is the growth of monopolies and oligopolies which have so much control over the market that it is impossible for any real interaction between supply and demand to have any effect. The pharmaceutical industry can be considered oligopolistic with ten or fewer companies worldwide. Not only do they have more control over the market but they can lobby government to adopy policies favorable to their industry. Lobbying is another factor in the so-called free market that interferes with the dynamic between supply and demand.

As well, the WTO, IMF and World Bank are external forces acting on governments in developing countries that influence price and availability of goods and services.

Another external force that has had a major impact on wages and prices are all the trade agreements that have been signed recently such as NAFTA.

So while there are external forces operating on workers and consumers there is little in the way of similar pressures on producers. To understand all the issues in the global economic system, you need to abandon the myth about free markets and think about realities of how and why so many people suffer under this system.

http://www.stateofdarkness.com

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» RE: False Labor Hopes Posted by: jstepp590
Hey, wow, I can't wait for the movie!
Posted by: hagwind on Aug 8, 2008 6:29 AM   
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They'll probably have to shorten the title, though. Corporate America Prepares for Battle Against Worker Campaign to Roll Back Assault on the Middle Class is quite a mouthful. Still, it does sound dramatic, bombastic, and all that good cinematic stuff.

Trouble is, as a spin it's pretty useless in providing guidelines for serious organizing. "Assault on the middle class" -- what is that, exactly? Where's the front line? What's this "worker campaign" about? This article discusses a piece of top-down legislation, EFCA, but if (as the author states) hardly anyone knows about it, exactly how widespread is this "worker campaign"? Maybe to someone born around 1980 this legislation sounds new! revolutionary! or at least significant! It doesn't sound all that new to me, and in my adult lifetime the only new! revolutionary! legislation that passes Congress by large majorities is the kind that benefits some special interest or another. Penalties for violations sound good on paper, but enforcing those rules and regs nearly always involves a legal battle. I can see why lawyers would get behind this bill in a big way, but I don't see lawyers throwing their briefs into the breach to stop this "assault on the middle class." How often does legislation create or strengthen a grassroots movement? Nowhere nearly as often as grassroots movements drive the development and passage of legislation. That's the kind of legislation that tends to have far-reaching effects. This top-down stuff gets forgotten or co-opted, which is, not infrequently, the intent.

And who are we going to cast as "Corporate America," the hero/villain of the film? God and Satan are the only obvious contenders, and they're not free till after the election.

Wait a second -- is this a remake of Paradise Lost?

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Unions, hah.
Posted by: dayenta on Aug 8, 2008 7:25 AM   
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I have a union job, still don't make a living wage & have crappy benefits. Don't think they're the answer anymore until they get some teeth. All they're good for now is taking a big chunk out of my already meager check each month.
Bring back the guillotine!

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» RE: Unions, hah. Posted by: jstepp590
The Long Decline.
Posted by: yellow on Aug 8, 2008 7:42 AM   
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The real problem is that for about three decades, capitalism has been a system in steep decline. Between 1946 and 1976, per capita national income cumulatively increased by 90% while the average annual income of the bottom 90% of earners kept pace with a cumulative increase of 83%. Between 1976 and 2006, the cumulative per capita growth in national income dropped to 64% while the average annual income of the bottom 90% of earners cumulatively increased by only 10%. The income of the top 1% cumulatively increased by 232% in this same period while it only increased by 20% between 1946 and 1976!! This trend becomes all the more remarkable when it is considered that the average annual rate of population growth in the US sharply declined after 1972 never to return to the average annual growth rates of the first thirty years of the post WWII "baby boom" era. Had average annual population growth rates after 1972 continued at the 1950-1972 rates which nearly doubled the more recent rates, the trend in per capita national income growth over the last thirty years would have been much lower than the recorded 64% and probably closer to 35%. In addition, wages would have probably been even lower due to an oversupply of low wage workers so stagnation might have even been worse!! It is clear that the concentration of income and income gains has slowed the average annual rate of GDP growth in the last thirty years and that it was the relative income equality and large middle class that spurred the growth of the US economy between the end of WWII and 1976.

One of the problems has been tax cuts which have not gone into domestic investment in output and full employment but rather into financial speculation and mergers and acquisitions thus concentrating the economy and reducing competition. This more than monetary policy has lead to steady price increases. Prices have built in the financial costs of mergers and the expected rate of return for large shareholders who expect stock prices to increase after a costly merger or acquisition. This is hardly the way the system was meant to operate. Further, the income gains by the rich have been so large that they pay a larger share of taxes even though they received substantial tax cuts and the proportion of the income that they pay in taxes has declined. The rich have made income gains at a rate that far exceeds the increase in their share of the national tax burden. The real issue is that it is effective tax rates and shares of after tax income that are the proper measures of progressivity in the tax code and not the proportional share of the nation tax burden born by each individual income strata. This regressivity has lowered effective consumer demand and slowed GDP growth. It has led to the current crisis of stagnation and the financialization that has destroyed the stability of the US economy and the middle class.

A program of union campaigns, progressive taxation, massive public investment to create full employment and financial regulation is needed to restore the system. The current trends will only lead to a further decline in US capitalism and ultimate social breakdown.

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» RE: The Long Decline. Posted by: jstepp590
» RE: The Long Decline. Posted by: edgar1
» RE: The Long Decline. Posted by: yellow
» RE: The Long Decline. Posted by: globalgirl
WW III just began
Posted by: xi_people on Aug 8, 2008 7:45 AM   
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While people are prattling about inanities in this forum, the fuse has been lit for a world war involving the major powers in South Ossetia. Russian tanks are rolling into the area, against the US-supported Georgian army.

Remember what you were doing today. It might be a solemn marker to a world dissolving into chaos.

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» RE: WW III just began Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: WW III just began Posted by: edgar1
More union members = more union teeth!!!
Posted by: mnlefty on Aug 8, 2008 7:45 AM   
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One of the reasons unions don't have more 'teeth,' as you say, is that the government has so effectively chipped away at workers' rights to join them. The power in any union is in numbers. Unions are precariously weak right now, but they still fight to protect workers and those protections extend to private jobs as well. Their ability to do that will be strengthened if it is easier for people to unionize.

I work in Human Services for a Union county. The few counties that are non-union look very closely at our contract when deciding their own benefit packages and salary scales. If they aren't competitive, people will leave for the Union county jobs. It's easy to say the Union doesn't do any good since County X has the same benefits and no union dues to worry about. But County X would have lower salaries and fewer benefits if they didn't have pressure to match the Union counties.

Will unions save America? I don't think it's that simple. However, we need to remember that most employers want to pay the minimum possible to retain the maximum profits. Unions raise that line a little higher.

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Great article, Mr. Holland
Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Aug 8, 2008 8:28 AM   
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As a conservative I've always supported workers' right to organize. I don't see how supporting limited government should also include being against the worker's rights to organize.

As a conservative I don't believe the government should be involved in the labor market at all and that the individual's right to form trade guilds or labor unions is implicit because nothing in the Constitution specifically states that they don't have that right. Unions are a good thing but, like any other organization, they can go very bad when they have bad leaders.

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» RE: Great article, Mr. Holland Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Great article, Mr. Holland Posted by: jstepp590
SO, NOTHING WILL WORK - WHY BOTHER?
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Aug 8, 2008 8:31 AM   
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Most of these comments are more about attitude than ideas. The best of times in this country for some strange reason corresponds with high union membership and laws that required companies to treat employees fairly. That's not a coincidence. Nurses, teachers, college professors, are almost all union. It's not just about blue collar and Joe Six Pack. Stop being a bunch of snobs. And yes, there are always games to be played. This may be the Obama's great contribution. Cash in on it, don't bash it. Thanks, ANNA

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SO, NOTHING WILL WORK - WHY BOTHER?
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Aug 8, 2008 8:31 AM   
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Most of these comments are more about attitude than ideas. The best of times in this country for some strange reason corresponds with high union membership and laws that required companies to treat employees fairly. That's not a coincidence. Nurses, teachers, college professors, are almost all union. It's not just about blue collar and Joe Six Pack. Stop being a bunch of snobs. And yes, there are always games to be played. This may be the Obama's great contribution. Cash in on it, don't bash it. Thanks, ANNA

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Bloody Fight?
Posted by: BobBrrz on Aug 8, 2008 9:13 AM   
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It's been nearly 70 years since American Labor put up a 'bloody fight' for their rights. The idea isn't to get knocked around by goons and cops. Instead those goons and cops may need a little knocking around--maybe even some of the suits that pay [off] the goons and cops.

Every significant advance in the lives of American workers has come about after some cops, deputies, marshals or National Guardsmen have got their noses bloodied.

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» RE: Bloody Fight? Posted by: jstepp590
Wonderful! With Unfit McCain on the verge of winning the election...
Posted by: HughScott on Aug 8, 2008 9:17 AM   
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Alternetters are anow arguing about UNIONS!

Having been a member of two labor organizations -- the Teamsters and Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) -- I know firsthand the pros and cons of union representation. But no way will I waste my time addressing distrations like the article above.

The enemy is John McCain, folks -- America's NUMBER ONE NEOCON! Stop the AlterNet bickering and focus of our nation's REAL threat: continued iron-fisted rule by the rightwing GOP.

Otherwise, here is what we'll get after President McCain takes office in 2009:

If McCain wins in November, the neocons in Washington will increase their power, Bush's incompetent cronies will remain in office, our nation will become more divided, we will never know how many White House crimes were committed over the past eight years, and U.S. armed forces will attack Iran. America deserves a better future than that.


With love,

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam veteran [For the benefit of first-time AlterNet visitors]
Seven Reasons to Vote Against Unfit McCain

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» Hugh... Posted by: edgar1
The biggest issue and where is it in the news?
Posted by: edgar1 on Aug 8, 2008 9:40 AM   
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This card check is the biggest economic issue. It separates Obama from McCain. Without strong unions, all of Obama gimmicks, like the windfall tax, the "green" jobs that "can't" be outsourced(oh you poor naive Harvard fellow) and the health care mean nothing.

Union rights have to be #1 for Obama if he has any pretense of "change". He must be prepared to veto every pork loaded bill, including defense and "homeland security" (oink oink) appropriations for four years, deprive Congressmen of sleep(see bios of LBJ) blackmail whoever he has to and break every arm in both parties until this basic civil right is established. If workers can't get basic rights, the soldiers and their dependents who benefit from a welfare state of their own right now should get squat and go to work in the private sector.

Obama the eloquent (and he is) must be prepared to have a weekly news conference and frequent speeches to educate the ignorant public about their own history of labor struggle and rights.

As for the Wrinkly One, well, I don't expect him to give a damn about unions; he's been on the govt payroll all his life. BTW, are Cindy McCain's workers at the Bud facilties unionized?

Cmon Matthews, Brokaw, Schieffer, Mitchell, Maddow Olbermann the Liberal and Blitzer. Where are your labor-oriented questions to the candidates, including the congressional candidates? Enough of is Obama nice to Hilary discussions.

No union bill by Feb 1, 2009, shut the govt down for four years. We'll save money and lives and the standard of living won't be any better or worse.

Then, I guess we'll see if the market truly will regulate open borders and if home schooling works! One thing for sure: the average worker losing his job in Ohio won't be any worse off than he's been under Clinton or Bush. He/she needs unions. And they need them NOW!

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Solving the problem
Posted by: Big Cow on Aug 8, 2008 10:05 AM   
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John Edwards, John Edwards, where are you when we need you? If anyone can stand up to the corporations and win, he is the guy!

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» RE: Solving the problem Posted by: jstepp590
» John Edwards Posted by: arieden
» RE: Solving the problem Posted by: pomes
Which Middle Class?
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Aug 8, 2008 11:19 AM   
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Do you make 35K a year? How about 50K? 100K, well you're still not in the middle class. Middle class in America is above 200K a year. Wall Street doing all this bitching is because folks are'nt buying their stocks anymore and people want the wealthy to start paying their fair share in taxes,with no loop holes.
I think a 91% tax on the wealthy would go a long way towards making this country run better. It damn sure would lower the cost of living. How? Well,when the rich have a heavy tax bracket they may fall into,they start lowering prices to keep up a lavish lifestyle on the cheap. Even when we had a 91% tax bracket,the rich had a lot of loop holes to keep them from paying any taxes at all.
Maybe we should institute a non-refundable,non-deductable 45% tax on all Corporate Gross Profits. That would be a tremendous help to the society at large. Why? Because Corporations get to deduct way past zero tax to the point the gov't pays them millions in refunds,and that's not counting the corpie Welfare they've been getting for decades. We killed welfare for the poor because they were a drain on the budget. GET
FUCKING REAL!!!! Welfare for the poor cost the American taxpayer 25 cents a day, Welfare for Corporations cost us $3 a day. I don't know about you,but I live on a pension,a small one,
and I have 25 cents a day to give to someone worse off than me but I damn sure don't have $3 a day to give to some money grubbing pollution bleching,worker killing, society wrecking god damn Corporation. I don't think you do either.
Big Business does'nt need help from the gov't,The People do!!!!! Until we get the fools in office that owe a lot of favors to the corpies out, we will never have a sane gov't.
A sound social policy or the Healthcare we need because the system has let Big Business poison all of us....for money. That's not governance that's elitist wannabe ruler shit. We deserve better. We'll have better.
We just have to 'take out the trash'
WRITE-IN Jeffrey7 for Prez '08

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Empower the People
Posted by: wormfarmer on Aug 8, 2008 11:58 AM   
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The only way to avoid living in the corpocracy is to vote for someone that rails against
that control. Ralph Nader has ALWAYS pursued that end for the benefit of the constitution, and all of the people in this country. I'm not proud to be american, I'm shocked by how this
country has ignored the transformation to ignorance. Dwight Eisenhower tried to warn us,
control of this country is no longer the peoples', and if we don't vote our conscience now, when will we? We as a people, should display a society that believes in and promotes
fairness and justice in this country as an example for other governments to emulate. This is America's responsibility.
Beware the military / industrial / corporate complex.

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Stupid Article
Posted by: owlsliveintrees on Aug 8, 2008 12:18 PM   
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Coersion eh? So let me get this straight...when WalMart managers tell their employees not to unionize it's coersion, but when you're forced to announce your vote on union membership in front of your loudly opinionated fellow employees and superiors, you aren't being coerced?

Anyone that claims that eliminating a secret ballot makes it harder for people to be coerced is smoking crack. It's laughable on its face. How can you be coerced if nobody knows how you vote? Making your vote on union representation public will either make you an enemy of your fellow pro-union employees, or an enemy or your anti-union employer. GREAT! Sign me up.

Wal-Mart managers are lying to their employees about unions? That sucks. So pass a law against it. what does a card check have to do with anything? If people will always vote union when they have "the facts" why the outry against secret ballots?

And then there's the usual tactic of pretending that correlation equals causation: Union membership is on the decline, worker wages aren't keeping up with inflation, therefore declining union membership is the cause of lower wages.....

um, how about the fact that this country doesn't build anything anymore? How about the fact that nobody buys American? Could this possibly be the cause of declining wages?

I get it, today we're talking about unions, so we can't bring that up.

Union leadership wants card check because they know they can intimidate people to vote union. And when there are lots of union members, it gives union leaders leverage against the corporation and allows them to drop money into politicians' pockets.

Easy to understand if you're not tool of big labor.

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An aside (sorta)
Posted by: TheJamea on Aug 8, 2008 12:32 PM   
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Resource: 1 a: a source of supply or support : an available means —usually used in plural
b: a natural source of wealth or revenue —often used in plural
c: a natural feature or phenomenon that enhances the quality of human life
d: computable wealth —usually used in plural e: a source of information or expertise
2: something to which one has recourse in difficulty : expedient
3: a possibility of relief or recovery
4: a means of spending one's leisure time
5: an ability to meet and handle a situation : resourcefulness
Does anyone notice that we are not personnel, anymore? Personally. I believe that corporations use "Human Resources" because they view the worker as something to be used until used up and then discarded. Thats sure how I feel I'm being treated.
In the same vein, (sorta), we need to get way past labels. Its largely true that the Dems and Repugs are largely indistinguishable (Leibermann calls himself a Democrat and the Dems let him) and it is possible to "look not at what they say, but at what they do". Go to OpenCongress.Org and check out the individuals voting record. What bills did they sponsor, co-sponsor, vote for, or against. Have fun.
TheJames

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Inflation?
Posted by: Urgelt on Aug 8, 2008 12:43 PM   
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How would Joshua's analysis change if the "real" rate of inflation - using pre-Reagan measurements - were used?

Real worker wages over the last 28 years have shrunk, not grown.

The gaming of inflation indices since Reagan is the big unmentionable economic story of our times. Acknowledging it throws every analysis into a cocked hat. Our economy has been shrinking, not growing.

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» RE: Inflation? Posted by: JSquercia
EFCA - good idea, bad law
Posted by: CalKid on Aug 8, 2008 2:20 PM   
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The 10th Amendment, in the Bill of Rights, sought to provide diversity in law, as well as avoidance of centralized government and its failures.

Over the years, the US Supreme Court has unfortunately diminished the 10th's effectiveness, but that does not indicate that the original concept was flawed.

If EFCA were not such an anti-American law, more states would have passed similar legislation. As it is now, with labor laws differing from state to state, it is not difficult to see which states have a more prosperous populace with a higher quality of life. Some of those states are heavily unionized and doing well, and some are lightly unionized and doing well. And of course we have opposites.

The point here is that we have many experiments with labor law going on simultaneously, and we need time to examine them to see what works best.

EFCA would very negatively impact the ability to evaluate diverse state laws, by allowing extreme coercion by either pro- or anti-union factions. The secret ballot is central to a government of the people, and central to the right of a group of workers to choose their method of collective union organization.

Years ago I was forced to join a union run by some unsavory characters, and still remember the big thugs that threatened my safety if I dared to oppose unionization. I calculated that after paying my initiation fee and monthly dues, it would take two years of work before I broke even. Clearly this experience has colored my thoughts.

Beyond that, I am certain that pressure by corporations against those who vote for a union, and pressure by unions against those who would vote against them, will put workers between a rock and a hard place, and worse, subject them to personal harm.

Some years ago the Equal Rights Amendment was not passed because all family law would have been removed from the states and given to Congress. I think EFCA will fail for the same reasons.

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Corporate Management Doesn't Care About the Corporations The Run
Posted by: FoonTheElder on Aug 8, 2008 2:55 PM   
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Most of all the ignoramuses that run corporate America will support laws that help them personally, generally to the detriment of their big corporations. These people constantly support government policies that cut their personal taxes, while at the same time hurting their businesses.

The most glaring example is health care. Any company who pays for health care would likely be better off with a single-payer program. The auto companies would save many millions.

Do you ever hear any of these companies come out for a single payer health plan? No, because the Republicans who give them giant personal tax breaks are in the hands of the big companies that make millions off of the current system. Instead of working in the best interest of their company, they use their influence to help themselves.

Top management is all against anti-trust rules, as long as they can personally make a few bucks off the deal. But when the acquisition runs against their personal interest, they are busy putting up every roadblock they can find.

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There is no middle class
Posted by: nfamous on Aug 8, 2008 3:16 PM   
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This is one of the biggest lies perpetrated on the American people, besides the false flag of 9/11. There is an upper class and there is a lower class. No one is welcome to the upper class except through marriage or birth and upper class people only marry other upper class people. People that win the lottery, athletes, musicians and entertainers are all in the lower class. People think it has only to do with money. Wrong.

The elite make at a minimum hundreds of millions of dollars. At the high end there are some that make trillions of dollars. No one in Hollywood is making that type of dough trust me. What the elite did was create division in the lower class by creating the have somes, who are people they call the middle class, and the have-littles and have-nots.

People instinctively strive for higher incomes that seem to be achievable. The have-littles and have-nots want to be the have-somes they regard as the middle class but the lower class is nothing but Marx's proletariat and bourgeoisie. The bourgeoisie think they can make it into the upper class but it is impossible because of the way society is structured but they keep struggling like a horse chasing a dangling carrot.

Of course the "middle class" have-somes hate the have-littles and have-nots because they believe their financial situation is due to laziness and criminality. Nothing could be further from the truth in most cases. Conversely the have-littles and have-nots hate the have-somes because they believe they are patronized for being less financially successful and therefore less human. Only capitalism can produce this money dynamic by which the worth of a person is determined solely by his or her income. It is truly an anti-humanistic system.

This bifurcation of the lower class is aided through other elite techniques like religion, racism, fear of homosexuality, gender wars and the like. They drive us apart from each and destroy our communities so that we become individuals who are only in it for ourselves. Who can say that this does not describe modern day America? We are at the end folks, and just like no skyscraper like WTC7 has ever collapsed from fire as they claim it did on 9/11, no empire has ever survived much longer after it began to evince this behavioral syndromes. We could have prevented this but we didn't use our only weapon: each other.

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Nothing happens in a vaccuum!!!!
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 8, 2008 3:20 PM   
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Over the last 30 years, the federal government (enabled by the voting public) has had a war on working people! Regulations have been gutted, rules have been changed, even the Supreme Court has sided on the side of business! The good ole boy network has ensconced their own in the very positions of power to effect the changes that we are now seeing: corporate greed, stagnating wages, the S&L failures, mortgage meltdowns, Enron, unfair tax cuts tilted toward the top 10% of Americans, the gutting of the social safety net for everyone else, etc.!

This has been a deliberate take-over of our government by corporations, and the top 10%, to the detriment of the rest of America! In the meantime, we the taxpayers get to foot the bill of the new corporate welfare state proudly proclaimed as "the free market"!

For those of you that don't know or were unionized under Don Corleone let me offer a few reasons why unions are good for us all. Back in the day when unions really represented their workers we got: (1) child labor laws, (2)a real minimum wage, (3) real pay equity, (4)40 hour work weeks, (5) real jobs that helped to increase the size of the middle class.

Though unions have been demonized (and yes there are corrupt union officials) unions are the things that helped to make this country stronger. Unions helped to keep corporations more honest vs the rapacious avarice that has taken over the corporate elite of this country!

If you don't believe me think about this, why would corporate America be sooo afraid of unions if they don't recognize the real power of them?

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» RE: Nothing happens in a vaccuum!!!! Posted by: dangerouslysane
» Commondreamer Posted by: CommonDreamer
New industries may be the worst offenders
Posted by: Blue Heron on Aug 8, 2008 3:50 PM   
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I think that relatively new sectors like Tech are infested with corrupt employers, and these include the big players. Fortunately we now have a tech workers union in Seattle called Wash Tech, which was founded after the Permatemp lawsuit brought against Microsoft. But tech companies have not taken heed. Instead, they plow ahead in ignorant (and arrogant) bliss. For example, Apple still keeps Permatemps and probably saves millions not only by withholding benefits, but through this employee misclassification, they are also scamming the IRS out of God knows how much money. But hey, they're the cool kids, so what's the Law to them? Happy scheming, you rotten fruits.

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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
Posted by: pomes on Aug 8, 2008 3:57 PM   
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So instead of bowing and scraping to a corporate goon, I'll be bowing and scraping to a union goon. Now that's what I call progress!

And of course the unspoken part of the Freidman "Leave it alone until it falters" philosophy is that the public assumes the risks and foots the bill for getting the company back on its feet -- at which point the profits are once again privatized. Great deal for the schmucks.

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» You chose your prison Posted by: blogbooks
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Once again, IT IS NOT THE CORPORATIONS
Posted by: blogbooks on Aug 8, 2008 3:58 PM   
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IT IS THE WEALTHY PEOPLE THAT OWN THEM.

Hold the right people responsible. Do you blame the gun or the shooter?

The CEO's and corporate execs are just tools of the rich whose raison d'etre is to generate profits for their masters (and thereby, themselves). The people they serve are the ones to go after.

I want to see the corporate legal structure abolished and banned from operating in the United States. Then we'll have TRUE individual responsibility, something the right wing should embrace. I'm sick of faceless, formless, "corporations" catching the blame when they break the law and kill/fuck up people's lives.

I want individuals held responsible. I want the owners of the corporation punished (i.e. investors. No, I don't mean you Mr. Jackass with $20,000 worth of Wal-mart stock, I mean the Walton family with billions of dollars).

At least in China they know how to make an example of somebody. "Corporations" shipping poisonous products around the world? Let's sentence the head of our FDA to death by firing squad.

When Enron went down, and destroyed the lives of the small time investors that had bought into it, heads should have rolled. In fact, that's perfect, I want the guillotine back and operational.

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Forget the current parties,move beyond the corrupted union leaders.
Posted by: BlueGorilla on Aug 8, 2008 5:19 PM   
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The truth is that neither of the two big US parties,has the slightest desire to implement the changes necessary,to make America a real democracy, and fair society.
The Republicans are beyond the pale,while the Democrats, like the unions, have effectively lost any real desire to balance the class forces,wipe out poverty and generally stand against the real rulers of the US.
You all know where the power lies,its the big corporations.
The monied interests lobby and advise politicians(in fact at present some of them ie Dick Cheney,Dubya et al are the politicians),they stymie any fetters on their unregulated markets ie by setting up corporate unions, or simply by sacking,and making life difficult for union members..ie Walmart.
This "elite" have their own newspapers,and even own television news channels,which are basically propaganda tools.
If anyone has any delusions about the Democrats,then look at Obama's Friedmanite campaign advisers.These,or other top corporate ideologues will still be advising Obama if he becomes President.
The truth is that any organisation such as a union,that claims to represent the masses,or the interests of member's,needs to be fully independent of the corporations.The same is true of any political party,wishing to make real change,in the current economic and political climate.
Only by combining,creating and developing grass roots organisations,and creating an analysis and strategy,totally independent of the corporate sector,can such change come about.
If you want health provision for all,a fair living wage,the rich to pay taxes proportionate to the wealth they receive,an end to the state funded corporate gravy train, a society of equal opportunities,pensioner benefits which allow for a dignified and comfortable retirement,an environmental policy based on preservation not rape of the earth,and a land where citizens voices arent drowned out by corporate interests,then it is vital to start thinking about an alternative to The Democrats or present union organisations.
It will be a long and difficult project,but lets be honest,there is no alternative as The Democrats are dead.

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Unions
Posted by: dangerouslysane on Aug 8, 2008 7:48 PM   
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the people that brought you the weekend.

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Commondreamer
Posted by: CommonDreamer on Aug 8, 2008 7:59 PM   
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The right wing has successfully scared off those who would have joined...those who would have protested...and so on... by making it seem "wimpy" to join unions. That's right - they want you to think strong people support the unfettered free market, while they pull the rug out from under you and take all the money and run...they want you to keep drinking the koolaid. Incredibly that's what voters are doing, if the election is this close. We still have not been able to overcome the years of swiftboating of every conceivable fair policy, New Deal and otherwise...that the right wing has successfully implemented.

The "nanny state" problem - another misconception...they want voters to think interference is a bad thing...so they will have no interference as they loot the treasury. And yet the irony being of course, the rescue of the markets by the nanny state that bailed out overpaid bankers and speculators....the unjustifiable socialization of risk and privatization of reward.

They are still winning, even after taking the country this far down. Unbelieveable. Is there any hope?

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Here's the truth that the Left can't deal with:
Posted by: form5166 on Aug 8, 2008 8:35 PM   
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Most people WANT to be taken care of by a "big daddy" or "mommy." They want someone else to solve all of lifes fundamental problems and conundrums for them. They want someone else to create and provide them with "meaningful" work. They want someone else to pay their taxes for them every payday. They want someone else to provide them with wonderful healhtcare and benefits and vacations. They want someone else to deal with regulators, government meanies and difficult clients. They want to be told what to do, when to do it, and how - and they don't want anymore responsibility than that. They want to go home spend money, watch TV, surf the net, and pig out, while they complain about how poorly they are treated by their employers and how unfair everything is.
The Right knows that this is what most people are about, the Left can't bear to face the truth. Until the Left faces the fact that the problem does not just exist on one side of the equation, they will continue to beat their dead horses forever. No matter how sophisticated the arguements get, when you fail to take the whole picture into account every GD time, you will continue to talk into the echo chamber - the people you are so interested in helping? - they are all busy watching American Idol and eating cheezy puffs and drinking sodas and smoking, while they develop diabetes en masse. They can't hear you.

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» wrong Posted by: zippoflash
» Commondreamer Posted by: CommonDreamer
Workers rights
Posted by: zippoflash on Aug 8, 2008 10:36 PM   
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It's up to us to take them! We who work and toil and are treated like shit know what the deal is. This legislation is crap. Stand up!

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The EFCA destroys workers rights
Posted by: DocRoss on Aug 8, 2008 10:57 PM   
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The Employee Free Choice Act is anything but a guarantee of free choice. The EFCA takes away an individual worker's right to a secret ballot as well as a chance to hear both sides during an organizing campaign. Unions have been losing business for years, so the only way to increase revenue is to make it so that a company has no chance to tell its story to its workers. Unions need the EFCA, not workers.

I've been in three unions, with a six-year stint as a shop steward, and at no time did any of the three unions do anything for me that the company couldn't have done (and in most cases already had done, like providing benefits) year after year as a shop steward I witnessed union leadership more interested in preserving their rights in a contract (like automatic dues payments, and the right to have a bulletin board onsite) than negotiate for more money.

During organizing campaigns companies are prevented from making any promises that could be construed as an unfair labor practice, but unions can (and will) make promises to workers they know they can't deliver, with no legal recourse to worry about. This is what the EFCA will reinforce; wide-eyed workers who believe they'll hit the jackpot by joining a union, only to find out that everything is subject to negotiation.

I'm in management now (HR), and though my company pays well with great benefits, we spend millions having to fight union campaigns that our employees don't respond to. Less than 5% of our workforce of over 50,000 are unionized, we've had 200+ employees decertify their local this year, yet the unions want in because they are hurting for dues.

The problem with most liberals is that they have this romantic ideal of unions, something out of "Norma Rae". But just type "union corruption" in your search engine, and you'll find that union members everywhere are victims of union leadership year after year. Corporations aren't always the bad guys.

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I was wrong
Posted by: zippoflash on Aug 8, 2008 11:38 PM   
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About calling the legislation crap in an earlier post but not wrong about working people standing up! We cannot be dependent on legislation to protect us. We have to do it ourselves. That takes commitment. A commitment to looking after each other. Watching each others backs. Standing up for each other. Calling down the intimidation tactics of management for what they are and standing up!

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Welcome to the site
Posted by: Cattylion on Aug 9, 2008 6:16 AM   
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Moron Nation Identifies with Its Oppressor
Posted by: lorenbliss on Aug 9, 2008 10:48 AM   
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Anyone who wonders how the U.S. worker is being methodically reduced to slavery -- how the ruling class is imposing the new Dark Age (to ensure its posh survival through the apocalyptic times to come) -- need only read this thread.

Of 39 posts, only 12 evidence any real understanding of the role (and necessity) of unions. The remaining 17 are either venomously anti-union --11, including one that with genuine Antoinette haughtiness dismisses all economic concerns as "inanities" -- or seem smugly indifferent to the entire concept of economic democracy.

Were this a fascist or even conservative site, those results would not be surprising. On a presumably "leftist" site, they are horrifying.

They demonstrate (1)-the extent to which the anti-socialist purges of the mid-20th Century converted the United States -- permanently -- into a reflexively social-Darwinist (and thus incipiently fascist) state; (2)-the abysmal ignorance and anti-intellectual malice at the core of the '60s pseudo-"revolution" (a logical consequence of the purges); and (3)-the devastating truth that the resultant social-Darwinist values (“winning is everything; winners win because they're winners/ losers lose because they're losers“) are identical on both sides of the ruling-class/working-class divide.

This is, of course, a classic example of what’s called "identification with the oppressor" -- in this instance, internalization of the oppressor's value system.

Which is not only what killed U.S. unionism; it is also why the U.S. will never evolve a working socialism: the vicious, vindictively self-centered arrogance of the welfare worker or the motor-vehicle clerk (which guarantees we all despise government), is no different from the vicious, vindictively self-centered arrogance of the corporate executive (which would -- were it fully disclosed -- guarantee we hate capitalism).

Prediction: the Employee Free Choice Act will be enacted, but like the Wagner Act before it, it will be nullified by a new Taft-Hartley Act, and the U.S. march toward the Dark Age of sweatshops, slavecamps and fortified mansions will continue regardless of who wins in November.

Indeed, via his vote on FISA, Obama has already cast his lot with the enemies of the Constitution and constitutionally protected liberty.

The one development that might save us -- emergence of a true Labor Party -- will never be allowed. Yet formal prohibition is unnecessary; the Moron Nation mentality is already unable to fulfill the intellectual requirements such a party demands: Marxian economic analysis -- the truth of class struggle -- and the study of history, the latter essential for recognition of both of the vital role of our unique Constitution and of unions in enforcing the goals implicit in its preamble.

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!dont fracture neocons expect us to - provoke
Posted by: melindyrose on Aug 10, 2008 9:50 PM   
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we cannot fracture - they expect us to
Don't fall for it!!
kerry flipflop gore internet etc
these are slime techniques they are very good at because american corporate whores are cheap
we cannot cave in from conglomerate media attacks
karl rove is still loose
bush can still attack more countries.
indeed, he has invaded mexico.
under the guise of "immigration"
blackwater, the highly paid mercenaries where the american servicewoman was raped and murdered last week has succeeded in a san diego facility

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Whattt????
Posted by: hilly7 on Aug 14, 2008 7:31 PM   
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Most corporation were started by global banks, or, another title, Central Banks. Where does either Central Banks or Corporations (their babies), now or ever have cared about people. Vote with your money, just don't buy their shit.

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