There is one thing that she needs to consider. She needs to play well as much as Obama does. She has near abysmal support from the black community and lost even more ground by not positively commenting on this historic moment. She also has to play nice if she wants to be on his ticket because she has to win his supporters like his has to win hers. Bill Clinton's recent accusations about Obama and this speech on her part don't help her. If she wants support from the black community or to be VP for Barack she needs to give as much of the olive branch as Barack.

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I am Hillary's demographic. Please, Mr. Obama, don't put her on the ticket!

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no question of that.

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Hillary is all about grabbing power anyway she can! Now that she has lost the nomination, she has decided that she wants to be Vice President. Hey, whatever it takes to get back into the White House!

It would be a disaster if Obama made her his VP. She and Bill would be undermining his campaign constantly. She would be running as President, not as his Vice President. And, once they got elected, she and Bill would be off doing whatever they wanted.

I honestly think Obama and his team are smarter than that, and see Hillary for who she really is. I too, am her demographic. I use to support her and thought she would make a great President. Not anymore! She has proven that she is a liar, deceitful, and will do anything to win. She has undercut Obama constantly, and he continues to treat her with respect. I admire him for that, and have increasingly come to dislike and distrust her.

Hillary wants to position herself so that if anything should happen to Obama, she could take his place. I wouldn't turn my back on her, if I were him.

Hopefully, he will pick another woman as his running mate.

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The Reagan era of American politics is finally ending, and with it, the Clinton era of Democratic politics is ending, as well. Just as Eisenhower will forever be linked with the New Deal era even though he was a Republican (he slowed it a bit but did not fundamentally overthrow it), so the Clintons will forever be linked with the conservatism that has dominated American politics since 1980. They represent a shameful chapter of Democratic Party history in which the party felt it could not win if it ran left of center, so it didn't. Rather, it gleefully helped the GOP move the goal posts to the right. Fortunately, their time is past. They don't want to admit it, but that's their problem. Thanks to the idiot GWB, it's possible to be a real Democrat again. The country may not have been ready for Bradley or Dean, but post-GWB, things are different. America is ready for Obama.

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Goodbye Hillary. Can you just go away now you've lost. What a narcissistic over-privileged back-stabbing b@$th. Take the wingeing husband ex-prez with you too & please hit your head on the way out.

Not to mention the system. These nomination processes are run by lunatics for lunatics and all you poor americans have to put up with a complete load of B.S.

Put everyone on the ticket for the presidential election regardless of party allegiances. Run the national ballot. Get a result. Why does it need to take 12 months.

The system is broke....

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If Obama runs with clinton as vice-president candidate, I'm afraid he will be signing his own death sentence, literally.
After what that ... person implied when she cited Bobby Kennedy's candidacy, there are few doubts that, if called for the vice-pesidency candidacy, she will become the president, one way or another, most probably over obama's political or even physical dead body.
Accepting Clinton as vice president would be like opening doors to a deadly trojan horse.

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Class isn't something you can buy and even with 109,000,000 in the bank, she is bankrupt when it comes to class. She not only stole the moment from Barack Obama, she stole it from 33 million Black people who have struggled for 400 years to get to this moment. There is a segment of Hillary's constituency that no legitimate politician should want, but she has cultivated. Those people of WV who stated matter of factly to the pollsters that they would not vote for Obama because of the color of his skin. Unlike Obama, who has gone out of his way to straight forwardly tell those who have voted for him, if their vote was against a woman he didn't need it, Hillary has never told her supporters if they were voting against race she didn't need them, because she obviously did. I once thought highly of Hillary, today I'm ashamed to have been duped so thoroughly by her and her husband.

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Billary will never let reality get the way of their delusions of grandeur, and the media is obediently following along -- did anyone else notice how many online newspapers carried pictures of Obama next to Hillary, along with a headline of her "demand" to be chosen for VP?

The level of baseless arrogance being displayed here is breathtaking. What will she do next "for the good of the country and the party"?

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The woman has no peer. She is disgusting.

Hideous Clinton

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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waiting to see if Obama makes her his VP. That's why she's not conceding, she wants to see if she can get her way and if he decides to choose someone else (anyone else, please!)then she'll not campaign for him, she'll say some lunacy about how it's the popular vote that counts and she'll fight him all the way to the convention. She's a spoiled bitch with absolutely no class whatsoever, like a little brat holding her breath until she gets her way. Ever seen a kid throw themselves to the ground having a temper tantrum ? It's the same thing here.

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In a May 16-27 survey of Democratic voters, Obama was preferred over Clinton by 51 percent to 38 percent – nearly the reverse of Clinton's 51.5 percent to Obama's 43.2 percent in the California primary.

this is a survey done by the Sacramento Bee and is more relevant than the relatively few loud mouthed fans of MRS Clinton.

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The rabble rousing MRS Clinton has just added one more mistake to her dossier of them. Stepping on the toes of the African Americans who have had a momentous moment in history will not bode well and reinforces her inability to play by the rules. Her lack of grace is off the chart. She has no cards to play; this is a bluff and she should be called on it.

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Elizabeth Edwards anyone?

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We have chosen a nominee that we want to bring change and hope, also an administration that acts under the Constitution, for a change. Do not destroy this by putting Clinton on the ticket or even in the administration, it will just put us under a cloud of the old days that will not go away.
Please Mr. Obama give us real change.

Thank you.

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I find it telling that Obama's speech last night was humble and focused on the issues, and We the People.

Hillary's on the other hand was mostly about her.

I think that's illustrative.

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Even as Obama wins dozens of super delegates, Clinton says she will review her options for "the best interests of our party and our country."



Senator Clinton needs to take a spaceship to a new planet with no name and stay there for the rest of mankinds' future.

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would be worse than Aaron Burr as Jefferson's VP.
I would bet Barack's advisers are aware of this. Seems to me that it's only Hill's most rabid supporters and the media who think an Obama/Clinton is a "dream" It's a fracking nightmare!!

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Hasn't she been saying for some weeks now, even when it became obvious that "the math wasn't there", that she would "wait until the last Primary"? Well, we had the last Primary and what is she waiting for?

We need to get on with this process and whupping McCain's butt. No one disagrees that Barack has "some work to do". Let him get on with it. I curiously watched as much as I could stand, Faux Noise last night in betwixt my boyfriend Olberman and Chris Mathews, and Obama is the Right's worst nightmare and what a contrast in reporting! Karl Rove and Britt Hume are a pair to draw to, that's for sure.

Let's get this going.

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The hatred directed towards Senator Clinton on this site is misplaced and misoganistic. It is sad that this country has such difficulty seeing women in positions of power. I would have preferred her, but will vote for Senator Obama when he is declared the nominee. However, if Senator Clinton, I and many other women and men who supported her will work a lot harder for that ticket. Yes, it is a step forward that a person of mixed race has come this far. When will a a representative of 51% of the population achieve entry into the Executive Branch? Senator Clinton carried states in Democratic primaries that must be carried in a general election. She will help, not hurt the ticket. He will have a far better chance of winning

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If Clinton has enough clout with some supers to keep them from indorsing Obama, she can keep alive a change in the Florida and Michigan rulings. This can buy her some time for debt reduction. I think the demons will give her a couple of weeks to beat the bushes. Even Obama will participate or he may end up picking up the debt. As a presidential candidate she is old news and will not get any free media time. She may also do a little back room negotiating for VP. There is no doubt she would bring a lot of votes with her, however as a candidate of change forcing Obama to play politics as usual will cost some votes. Either way Obama will win the national election. Being an Illinois politician, I think Obama will cut a deal and go for the largest mandate possible. He is going to need a big stick to shake at congress.

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Yes, Senator Clinton should have been at least as gracious to Senator Obama as he was to her. It is pathetic and sad that she couldn't muster the courage to do so. That act alone shows her weakness.

Congratulating him "on his campaign" is not the same thing as congratulating him on his victory. Her surrogates are trying to spin that she did recognize his victory, but she plainly didn't.

"Absolute power corrupts absolutely." From the very beginning of this campaign (16 months ago), in her mind, this night was HER night. She still thinks so. Her campaign manager thinks so as well - still - even today! Her experiences with "power" have warped her judgment. This experience (if she can own up to it) will be a very healthy one for her.

Father Pfleger, who (to borrow a phrase from Rev. Wright) is "stuck on stupid," did actually get it right (even though tastelessly): She was the heir apparent, and this guy took it away from her. In a sense, she is saying that she still owns the basketball and the hoop and, if you want to continue to play, you have to do something for me.

That's the "old" politics that Senator Obama is trying to avoid. At this point, she has opened up the lobbying firm of Clinton and Clinton and is looking for something juicy for herself. Pathetic....and sad.

Yet, we all know that it is good to "keep your friends close and your enemies closer." I think he SHOULD ask Senator Clinton to be his Vice Presidential running mate. Not because of her "enemy" status, but because he knows that he can control her and her husband.

I heard his speech last night. It convinced me that he will be in control, and the Clintons will not.



Truth in packaging: I am a long time Obama supporter and contributor. I live in Illinois.

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Obama is the clear winner of the dem. primaries. To me, and millions of others, he is the clarion call of hope for something resembling a turnaround for our rapidly decaying country. While he doesn't have all the answers, he has more than anybody else currently running. That's why he won, and should win in November.

That being said... His choice of a running mate will be absolutely critical to his success. The hillary BS Express is already ramping up the "make me VP or ESLE!" message. She sounds like she's threatening to keep running, thus torpedoing his chance as president if he doesn't take her as VP. If he does take her, his run is finished. I say this because, not only is hillary unlikable generally, but taking her on would be a liability. There is a reason prince dumbass and criminal drug addict rush limbaugh wanted her to win- when running against mcSame, she loses, every single time. If Obama makes the fatal mistake of taking her as VP, not only will her message (tailored to the rich-ass 'eep everything as it is' old blue dog dems) be in direct conflict with his own message (there will be no or serious resistance to any real change with hillary on board) but also, her reputation and epic trainload of shit not as yet attacked directly (whitewater, amongst a metric ton of other issues) will pull him down. Come on, guys, you know mcSame will do it and his idiot supporters will trumpet it loudly for the next 5 months. Also, by picking her, he will get Bill clinton in tow. While it may look OK to some for him to be on board, he puts his foot in his mouth nearly as much as shrub does and definitely does not help with the progressive message or mission Obama claims to champion.

If I had the choice, I think Bill Richardson would be the best top contender- his resume would help defeat the charge Obama doesn't have enough expirence. It would also help him pick up hispanic voters. Bill is a genuinely likeable and somewhat quiet guy- a perfect counterpoint to Obama's larger-than-life personality and charisma. Second choice, for me, would be Edwards. Progressive and also charismatic, but could keep himself in his appointed place rahter than try to do a back-door usurp of the president's power and place, as I'd bet hillary is likely to try and do. His other female VP contenders spoken about in the news all look like borderline neocons in how they do things and the few of them that have been in public are less than thrilling (see Sellibus's damn-near consession speech after the state of the union last year...).

Please Obama, for love of God sand Country, and in the name of your own message, PLEASE don't take up hillary. She is, at best, political poison!

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it wasn't sexism that defeated Hillary Clinton--and REAL SEXISM IS TRIVIALIZED when Clinton & her supporters make this charge. Clinton made serious strategic mistakes and ran an "old style"(dirty poltics) campaign when many voters want to CHANGE POLITICAL DISCOURSE.
I am DEEPLY DISAPPOINTED in the campaign the Clintons ran--and feel it is a SETBACK for women. Obama hsa been so GRACIOUS and RESPECTFUL towards Sen.Clinton NO MATTER WHAT RACIST CRAP SHE THREW--and even last night, she ws INCAPABLE of his level of grace and regard.

Also: Hillary supporters are perpetrating FALSEHOODS: REPBUBLICANS through Rush Libaugh'S "oPERATIN cHAOS" urged republicans TO "CROSSOVER" and vote for hillary--NOT Obama. The CLINTONS (&their surrgoages) EXPLITED RACISM TO GET VOTES--but,ObmamNEVER SUED SEXISM--uite the opposite in fact.

Yes:Obama needs to speak far more DIRECTLY to white women & working-class white workers--and I know he can do that. Raise so-called "wopmen's issues" that HILLARY ENVER RAISED:pay equality that Supreme Court (Congres) jsut ditched for women;child care;violence against women;Inewuities in health insurance(women's birth control pills NOT paid for--while Viagra IS paid for).
Obama can talk abvout the WOMEN he will have in his cabinet, women doing diplomacy, etc.

As for white working-class: raise Employees Choice Act--making it easier for wokers to join unions; job health& safety law SHOULD BE ENFORCEED; get SPECIFIC about HOW he will protect workers' rights in trade deals.
But, DO NOT MAKE HILLARY VP: she should NOT be rewarded for the grotesue racism she's uded. And besides the Cltins ALREADY AHD THEIR EIGHT YEARS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. Enough is enough. At 50 years old, I've been wating for this "generational shift" since 1996-- the end of the Clintons' FIRST term in office--when I voted for Ralph Nader.
This year, Barack Obama is the TRUE candidate for REAL feminists. Hillary just tried to piggy-=back on a movement that she NEVER was a "standard bearer" for--except in ONE SPEECH in Beiging. Shje;s CORPROATE FEMINISIM all the way:I want my piece of this rotten pie by-any-means-necessary. That's NOT the feminism of REAL change,.

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and may all his promises come true....
exiting iraq, building a clean energy economy, health care for all...

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I don't believe Hillary Clinton is the right choice for vice president. 1) She is so competitive that it seems likely she will work to undermine Obama and claim credit for herself in an effort to launch another bid for the presidency in 2012. 2) She is is a top -down thinker, supporting the status quo in too many arenas, particularly with regard to allowing corporations to continue to maintain their stranglehold on America and the world. 3) Although Clinton is apparently in favor of national health care, she isn't interested in getting the middle-man private insurance companies out of the picture; middlemen who are bilking Americans for billions of dollars, and cheating on coverage. And although Obama's health care plan looks similar, he's included the option to switch to government-run health care, which, after it's up and running, should become one of the best choices, forcing the private health care industry to either start playing fair or drop out of the game, 4) Clinton hasn't come out strongly against the Iraq war, nor implied that she has given any serious thoughts to where we stand with Iran; Obama is interested in diplomatic resolution attempts, Clinton hasn't show much interest in that. 5)Clinton lied about her trip to Bosnia, and then lied about lying about it, and she pulled other deceitful things, including campaigning in Florida after agreeing not to. The fact that she's arguing to even count Michigan's vote, when Obama wasn't even on the ticket, much less campaigning there speaks volumes for how much Clinton is willing to compromise principles to win. Do we need more lying from anyone in the White House? I see a lot of strength in Hillary Clinton, and I would love to see a woman in such a high-level position, but not this woman. She is too much a part of the status quo.

Let us also not forget that Hillary Clinton comes with Bill Clinton, and he gave us NAFTA, which shipped more of our jobs overseas, which bankrupted 2 million Mexicans, and increased illegal immigration into the U.S. because of it, Clinton's foreign policy was responsible for the deaths of thousands of Iraqi children, Clinton dumped approximately 6 million people off of welfare, many of whom were single mothers with several children, and about half of whom were unable to find work of any kind, the other half finding a way to manage by working two or more full-time minimum wage jobs, leaving their kids home alone, and still bringing in poverty-level income. Thanks to Clinton's war on drugs, we have the highest prison population in the world, both by hard numbers and by proportion of prisoners to overall population - all the the benefit of private corporations who build and maintain these prisons; a multi-billion dollar business.

So with Hillary Clinton, we get Bill, who needs to be in the limelight every bit as much as his wife.

It would be great if either Rep. Wexler or Rep. Kucinich could be Obama's running mate, but I'm afraid that might be too much for this frightened nation to take after all the fear-mongering that's been going on. But it would be a great ticket, and then a follow up with John Edwards as Attorney General and Al Gore as head of the EPA, for starters.

Realistically, the Obama team has to put together a team that can win, and I think the strongest team would be Obama/Edwards. I'd love to see that, or Obama/Gore - however I think Gore is more easily ripped apart by the far right media machine than Edwards, and again, Gore would be more than spectacular as the head of the EPA.

Just NO to Clinton!

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If enough of us decide not to notice Hillary and contact both her website and Obama's to say that is our position what do you think she would do? If she heard from people, that her political career as a Democrat is done, if she hurts the party further would she continue to drag this out or would she acquiesce?

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This pre-presidential circus is s little out of hand. Both candidates are primarily the same, neither will get us out of Iraq, and even though I am proud to have both a woman and an african american be able to effectively run for office it feels contrived.
These candidates are presented in a palatable format based on sexist and racist themes that are meant to distract and divide.
The candidates who would have tried to truly change anything are long gone.
It feels like someone sat Obama down and told him what the deal was for the next four years and then sent him off to play..."enjoy the presidency, son!"
I hope he can change something but we all know that anything will be better than Bush.

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Many readers and posters on this site have shown a strong preference for sending Hillary packing. However, progressives are still the minority in the voting public of this country. It would be informative to poll the Democrat voters across the country to determine their views on Hillary as VP. She does have strong support among some Democrat bases including older women, seniors, blue collar, Appalachian and Hispanic.

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I'm sorry but this has been bugging me for weeks now. Does something smell fishy with Hillary Clintons refusal to see what the rest of us do? Just as the way Bush refuses to see.

Is there a backroom plan that has her staying in because she will be selected to the White House by the political machine that allowed Bush/Cheney to be 'selected'. A court. DIEBOLD Machines?

Its just written all over her face and in her speech. She claims to be fighting for Americans but it really sounds like her fighting for her, and if she stays in something is going to happen to get her the nomination.

Clinton supporters useing any and all excuse to not support Barack is making me sick. Once again we have a voting block in this nation that will even after all the recent eye opening communications of our system, vote against their own best interest, AGAIN!

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In a breathtaking display of unabashed partisanship, ABC news, reporting on the victory speech by Obama, stayed with Obama as long as he was talking about Hillary...but the SECOND he started talking about McCain, they CUT AWAY, and instead we got to hear Stephanopolous and the other idiot, Gibson, blather on about just about nothing, clearly just filling airtime! They then cut away to a McCain stump speech, RECORDED EARLIER, where McCain basically spoke about Obama's experience, as if Obama was a 5 year old child busily making pancakes in the kitchen, endearingly but ineffectually dropping eggs and flour and batter on the floor and getting himself all messy.

Disgusting. ABC is thoroughly discredited as a "news" organization. Even worse than FOX, because at least FOX makes no bones about the fact that they're rabidly partisan.

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It matters very little if we get anyone from the two partys. Both are corupted by big business and the defense/industrial complex. The Poor will get poorer and the rich will become crazy wealthy and there will still be armed conflicts we will be involved in.
Obama is slightly less threatening than Mccain and a fairly gutless campaigner. He failed to stand up for his pastor's Constitutional right to speak his mind and Uncle Tommed his way out of the church he attended for 20 years. Which proves he's just as big of a sell-out as all who have come before him. Too bad, I really had hope for this young man to be a true leader and not the usual puppet leaders we've contended with for generations. I'm not a racist but I do know when I'm seeing and hearing a crock of shit.
I hope Mr. Obama will have a change of heart as to who he really stands up for. I also pray the redneck asses that wish him harm can't muster the energy to get out of bed. This young man has been painted to be a uniter of people and a strong leader. I hope he will but he does seem to be another 'controlled candidate'. The powers that be set him up,mostly because he's a black person that has no relational ties to slavery, to be a distraction to what's really going on. Don't watch what Mr. Obama does,but pay attention to what goes on around him. I've seen him be a dick,I've seen him be kind and I've seen him befuddled. In short I've seen him be a Human Being. I hope he's Human enough to stop the idiocy that tearing our country apart and not become another in a long line of anti-human Tyrants.
Draft Jeffrey7 for Prez '08

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...so Obama should NOT think for a nano-second about making her the VP !! She has proven that she intends to be President --- whatever it takes.

...what more does he need to know?

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Clinton scorned.

By refusing to pay Obama the respect he deserves for WINNING the Democratic nomination, Hillary shows herself to be unworthy of national leadership -- in the White House or Senate.

Barack not only WON the greater number of delegates, he also garnered more votes than Mrs. Sniper Fire. As for her being on his ticket, how could Obama ever trust an arrogant, self-deluding, cheapshot artist who, like her husband, habitually shades the truth.

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For those of you who don't know her that well yet, please allow me to translate the 'good, ol' boy network', politico-speak of Hillary Rodham Clinton:

"I am committed to uniting our party..."

...which only I can do since I'm the one tearing it apart..."

"...so we can move forward, stronger and more ready than ever to take back the White House this November," she said...

...after, of course, I take back the DNC, which has always been mine, Mine, MINE!

"In the coming days, I'll be consulting with supporters and party leaders to determine how to move forward..."

Hey GOP, I've got my OWN versions of Rove, Rummey, Rice, Cheney and Ashcroft that'll make sure this thing goes through!

"...with the best interests of our party and our country guiding the way..."

...and as the song says, 'This is MY Country'!
I am the best interest of our party and our country!

"Now the question is, where do we go from here, and given how far we've come and where we need to go as a party..."

...like bringing up assassinations several times during an electoral race.

"...it's a question I don't take lightly," she said...

...just ask Vince Foster! Oh wait, you can't!
Bottom line is : 'W' took what wasn't his, why can't I?

Clinton reportedly said she would do "whatever it takes"...

...no translation really needed.

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GOOD MORNING ALTERNET!

And a GRAND morning it is!

CONGRATULATIONS BARACK OBAMA!

Whomever he chooses as VP I have absolute confidence his decision will be for all the right reasons. It is his RIGHT as the party nominee to choose his running mate, not have it thrust upon him. I don't believe he will be strong-armed into choosing anyone against his better judgement. No dummies, I think he and his political team expected this VP issue would come up with The Clintons and already have a strategy of dealing with them. Obama is one smart fella, it's all good! It's all REAL GOOD!

:-)

Cheers!


BARACK THE VOTE BABY!

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" come on, bitch! your fucking up your chances for him to pick you as his potential vice president!" those were the first word which flew out of my often sassy-ass lesbian-feminist mouth upon reading this article! I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS WOMAN AND HOW STUBBORN SHE IS!!!!!!!!! goddess! is she one hard headed, fucking twit!
yeah, I know, I got another one of those e-mails from her campaign I was volunteering for till pennsylvania doing the calling for her; and what did it say??? that we should contact our local delegates and " strongly urge them that hillary is the better canidate to beat john mc cain in november; as she has the EXPERIENCE NEEDED!"
but I have been following this whole thing in real clear politics, and watching those pledged delegates stack up faster and faster for obama; this in the last three weeks or so since her big west VA win! [ and oregon loss! my reasonably progressive, 29 year old neice, jamie, in waldport, LOVES OBAMA!] right then I had this strong feeling that I knew OBAMA CLEARLY WAS THE WINNER!
and well, also reading this young ,feminist site called feministing.com; many of those women in there had been saying " is the reason that the news media is criticizing her because she is a WOMAN??? OR is it because they do not like HILLARY????" that, and also said was, " why should I vote for a woman just because she is a woman, like so many feminist women seem to be doing. not that I don't wanna see a woman as president, I just don't want to see THAT WOMAN!" and you know, myself being a transwoman, and still quite the angry, left wing of the 1970's, a big N.O.W. supporter and MS. magazine reader; when kim gandy, gloria steinhem, ellie smeal, musician carol king;all endorsed hillary rodham[ clinton] for president- I wholeheartedly agreed that I too, would do this because, I too, wanted to see a WOMAN win! but after PA, what the fuck I was trying to figure out was why would any, REAL FEMINIST, as the 1970's sex-drugs-rock n roll variety of liberated woman[ not these pathetic, " I want it all , yuppie-career soccer mommy, prudish, aging beauty queens today]; CHOOSE A WOMAN WHOM IS FOR THE "ESTABLISHMENT"?????? oh well, maybe my neice knew all along that the TRUE MS. FEMINIST was the man called " MS." BARRACK OBAMA! and so, to Ms. Hillary rodham, I say with the tongue os a sassy assed extreme-feminist bitch; the words of " CONCEDE! YOU DUMB FUCKING BITCH!"

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Sure he says, "Let us unite in common effort to chart a new course for America."

What new course? so far all I've seen evidence of is more of the old course! All his speeches mention hardening the old lines on international politics.

What will be new? What changes does he promise to make? Is bombing Iran more attractive or acceptable if the button-pusher has a prettier face or makes a prettier speech?

Where's the (tainted, HGH-soaked, BSE-laden, antibiotic-ridden) beef?

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As Democrat who is neither a supporter of Obama nor Clinton, but one who will definitely vote for Obama in the fall, I was absolutely astounded that Hillary Clinton did not concede the nomination last night. She kept pointedly using the word "party," but if she actually cared at all about the party she would have shown it last night. She didn't. In my opinion, she has blown any chance she might have had at the VP slot.

By the way, Mr. Rosenfeld, it was a good article, but you are in need of a good editor. You used the singular possessive "Democrat's" three times when the correct usage is the plural possessive "Democrats'."

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Hillary Clinton is totally immersed in the victimhood she created for herself by not fighting for the right things and at the right times. Had she fought then, she would have the nomination today! Her loony supporters have joined her in the celebration of victim-hood--and her abuse of Obama warms the cockles of their broken hearts, creating a psycho-drama of the sort that Hillary Clinton enjoys above all else, and to which she is most likely addicted.

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The people of the several states that failed to vote for Obama because of his color made a terrible mistake. The man is Half White and I'd be willing to be that many of those same voters have some white and other colors in their backgrounds. The American people are a nation of immigrants and a melting pot. We are all mutts and should never judge a person by their color or lack of it.

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Obama was in St Paul last night, not Minneapolis. Trust me, I saw the long lines of people trying to get in.

Ross Perot was not part of "both parties."

On the new politics and the new fundraising style Obama used (small donors on the internet), it was the same one Howard Dean, listed under failed, used in 2004.

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Too arrogant publicly to get the right people on her side - that is enough voters in the right places and superdelegates - and too arrogant to admit defeat - and so arrogant she publicly asked for the #2 slot.

A unity ticket would go a long way to get the votes of those who can't see past the media's prejudice to her severe flaws, those that selfishly yell "Den-VER," those that proudly claim they'll vote for McBain rather than vote for the better candidate, scorched earth like. So maybe her as the VP would be good in that respect. But just remember, neither candidate is a real liberal, a progressive. They are both centrists. And that's not really that different from what we've had for the last since Johnson, or even further back, if at all.

So, it's up to the real winner, Barak Obama, to prove to use he can be a uniter despite his chief opponent's excellent attempts to divide and to prove he can make progress towards a real liberal America. Let's hope he can do it and she doesn't blow up his railway to Washington.

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Had she abdicated when Obama needed the delegates, she might've redeemed herself. She called him and asked him to be VP. He said no. Now that Obama has hit the numbers ON HIS OWN- even after the numbers were adjusted in the wake of her crybaby bullshit over Michigan and Florida- she still doesn't get it. She has nothing to offer now, and a whole lots of checks in the minus column. The only reason to make her VP is to appeal to the bra-burning morons who support her and the racists she has engendered. If Obama does takes her as VP, he will have proven himself to be an idiot and will lose my vote.

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and know their place.

Race trumps sex. It did it in the OJ Simpson trial, and it did it with this primary.

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Compared to the Hillary show, Nixon looks sane. Even in the face of defeat, despite his angry mood, he knew how to concede and to congratulate the winner. We now know how sane he was. Hillary demonstrates some bewildering traits bordering on the truly delusional. What's to respect about her now?

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I don't stand with you as I have in the past, I frankly feel you have mined the fields of racial animus in this election, and your current actions will not bode well for a generation of women to come. If you truely want a united America my hope is you will stand down for the good of the party and the people.

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He stuck to his strategy through thick and thin; countering every vicious attack with consummate skill - without a single savage counterattack to trash a fellow Democrat! It may have been the only way to defeat a woman ready to play the "sexism card" at the drop of the hat.

The sheer ability to stick to a strategy and make it work portends well for the coming landslide. I have never seen someone so adept at fending off attacks without descending to the level of his opposition. Had he wanted to fight dirty with deniability, we would have seen plenty about Hillary coming from the backdoor of his campaign.

With McCain, he will have to not only fend and parry but thrust! He has shown the ability to do that also.

There will be a flood of swift-boat style attacks coming soon from all sides. McLiar will wring his hands and ineffectually ask them to stop, noting that he has no control of what they say. Meanwhile, Barack has asked groups like Blue America and Move-on to back off.

I am now confident that he has a plan - it will be up to us all to help him make it work.

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They are hosting hillaryclinton.com and I hope they have been paid in advance. They are good folks and don't deserve to be stiffed. She certainly fails any credit checks at this point.

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By being on a ticket w/Obama. It wouldn’t bother one so much if he wasn’t running as the champion of the exact opposite of everything he says he is. It has been noted at many sites on the Internet that Barrack Obama has run the filthiest, tackiest most dishonorable primary campaign of any Democrat in memory. And still, Hillary Clinton, in spite of the fraudulent postings about "the people have spoken", received the majority of votes. As Larry Pinkney of the Black Commentator wrote so many months ago:

This is a man who has enjoyed the fruits of America at the blood and expense of Black Americans and others, but who has paid virtually no dues.

This is a man whose father had also enjoyed the fruits of university schooling in America but subsequently returned to his native Kenya.

This is a man, who also like his father before him, neither served in a branch of the US military nor in any organization in America opposed to US military adventurism.

This is a man who as a deeply corporate military industrial complex US Presidential candidate, has called for “unilateral” US military actions in other nations. [And why not? After-all, his father, himself, or his wife and children were not and will not be the ones killing and being killed.]

This is a man who, in Chicago, pretended to support the human rights of the Palestinian people but who is now known to be a huge supporter of the apartheid Zionists and their powerful and insidious political lobby in America.

This is a man who dares opportunistically to feign admiration for the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., but does not share the collective memory, pain and deep concerns of Black America, other people of color, or even of numerous white Americans for that matter - in the ongoing struggle for equality and justice in this nation.

This man, Barack Obama, is but a more articulate, younger, and shinier version of the current and infamous US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, adorning himself dangerously and abundantly in superficiality and double-speak.

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He now needs a VP nominee he can depend on to stay on message who is competent enough to employ his tactics in furtherance of his strategy. Hillary is obviously out of the question. So is Jim Webb - way too conservative (voted for telecom immunity) and outspoken.

I would suggest Senator Tom Harkin. He is liberal as they come - but from Iowa. I first became aware of him when he ran for president against Bill Clinton in '92. Since then, every time I have heard someone making sense on an issue, it has been Harkin.

Having a liberal at the bottom of the ticket would be a life insurance policy for Barack and Harkin is a good guy - smart as they come - a true populist and a good Democrat.

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...and thank you for making it so I do not have to say the words, "President Hillary Rodham Clinton". Good luck.

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When you think of it, it's perfect.

Aside from her strong corporate bias, her positions are good. She'd definitely be on the side of the angels where reproductive rights, women's issues, and children's rights are concerned.

There is no code of conduct for Supreme Court Justices -- she and Bill could continue their dubious lifestyles without having to hide anything. Look at Scalia and Thomas -- Clinton wouldn't even be the sleaziest justice.

There is no public role for "spouse of" a Supreme -- so Bill would continue to be the semi-private person he is now, with no power added by Hillary's job.

And best of all -- Roberts, Aleto, Scalia, and Thomas would wake up every morning for the rest of their lives and remember that they were going to have to deal with her and her zealot staff that day, and every other day of their lives.

Just think how they would hate her "toughness", her unabashed divisiveness, her willingness to throw hideous tantrums, her long, honking, wall-of-sound uninterruptible harangues, her constant changing of the rules to suit her needs, her willingness to cry foul or whine at the drop of a hat, and her inability ever to concede defeat or drop an issue.

As a eternity of torture for those unremovable *ssholes, I can't think of anything better than a lifetime of working with Hillary!

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Class triumphs over crass. Congrats, Obama, a soon to be president we can be proud of, and it's about time.

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I am pretty frustrated with some Clinton supporters. I can't believe all of the things I'm reading at places like the HRC site's blog comments about how they could never support Obama and they'd rather vote for McCain. Seriously? That's just delusional.

You know, I can't remember the last time my preferred candidate in the primaries got the actual nomination, nor really my second choice or my third choice. In 2004, I was firmly behind Dennis Kucinich and then John Edwards...but did I throw temper tantrums about going to vote for Bush because neither of them got the nomination? Hell no. I held my nose and pulled the lever for John Kerry, because it's about a lot more than personalities, it's about policy. In this election year, my first choice was Edwards but my heart was pretty much with Obama from the moment he gave his victory speech in Iowa. Did I luck out? Hell yes. I feel very fortunate that for the first time in my adult life, the Democratic nominee is someone I can fully stand behind and not doubt for a second. But if Clinton had gotten the nomination, I would be holding my nose and pulling the lever for her in the voting booth this November. I wouldn't be threatening to vote against almost every single core belief I hold just because my ego wasn't satisfied.

If you really care about Clinton's positions on issues, then you would never consider voting for John McCain just because Clinton didn't get the nomination. If you really must abandon the Democratic party, at least turn leftwards and vote for the Greens or Nader. But don't forget what's at stake if McCain wins.

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I voted for him in the primaries but will vote for Ralph Nader or sit this one out come November.

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this Friday -- 6/6/8
The flying saucer people will come and turn everyone into a female before they take them in their ship, right after we all drink the Kool-aid.

But if it doesn't happen Friday, then it will happen on 8/28/8!

Or... if not then then definitely on 11/2/8 or 1/20/9 or...

Never break faith, my children -- but BELIEVE! Just BELIEVE!

Oh -- sorry -- I was reading a Hillary fan club site and hadn't recovered yet.

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Hillary is closer to and has more support from the DLC/corporate fascists/neocons than Obama.
OK -- let's say she gets VP and Obama gets taken out (one way or another): would it really be Hillary behind it? Does the lieutenant determine the strategy of the war?

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Also, see http://socialistworker.org
/2008/06/04/will-obama-stop-the-war

http://tiny.cc/rIXKC

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Our job today is to build the opposition, whoever is in power in 2009, and to build an independent antiwar movement that can fight for its own demands--including, crucially, immediate and unconditional withdrawal from Iraq."

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Hillary stated that she wanted people to go to her website (hillaryclinton.com) to state what you would like her to do...I think we all should write her and give her what she is asking the public to do...I my opinion she needs to stay out of the Presidential race in all ways and continue to serve the State of New York in the Senate only, meaning she needs to get out gracefully now.

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Hillary was indeed pathetic for not conceding the inevitable. No surprises there. The list of her 'dirty tricks' against Obama is long and continuous - including this last issue.

But that's not my point. My point is this. If she is on the ticket McCain will rail on her background until he's blue in the face. If not him, the 527s will. Then Obama will have to spend all of his time defending her.

Then the race will be all about 'Look-at-me Hillary' all over again.

But that's not what this campaign has been about. Obama's campaign has always been about US. Hillary's has continually been about HER. They're so different in that respect that he can't afford to have a LOOK-AT-ME VP nominee in the limelight constantly having to smack down 527s.

It's so obvious that she can't be on the ticket. And if she doesn't rally her troops she will go down in history as the b*tch she's been portrayed as. Just like the W legacy. Is that really what she wants? Looks like it.

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Is her very childish sulk, about the American people not liking her as much as she thought.

It was an historic moment, but it wasn't HER historic moment, so she had to try to spoil it.

As for her as VP? Sorry, I've spent the last 8 years with a dishonest, corrupt, megalomaniac VP who was more powerful than the President, so I have a good idea what it would be like. I think I'll pass.

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I have a fair number of friends who are still Republicans, for reasons I will never understand. It has delighted me to see that Obama has hit them like a thunderbolt. One old friend goes around "witnessing" (in the biblical sense) in R circles, and says he's been amazed at how many other Rs are also planning to vote for Obama. Lots of other Rs are planning simply not to vote in 08, because they can't stomach McCain.

I've come to believe Obama has a good chance of a genuinely bipartisan victory -- and what better way to start off his efforts to re-unify America?

But even my prosceletyzing total-convert R friend says he couldn't vote for Obama if Clinton were on the ticket -- says he'd have to stay home. And most of the Rs who plan not to vote say they would have to vote for McCain if Clinton were on the ticket. Choosing Hillary as his running mate could do a lot of harm to the crossover vote for Obama, as well as to the non-voting plans of Rs who dislike McCain. I sure hope he doesn't do it!

BTW, did you catch it? Nancy Pelosi has openly said she opposes having Hillary run as Obama's VP. I know she is invisible to Hillary's zealot army, but I found it quite exciting that the highest-ranking woman pol in the country agrees with us!

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Maybe Hillary could be appointed Prime Minister a.k.a. Putin.

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I'm watching David Gregory announcing right now that Clinton has announced that she will suspend her campaign on Friday and will endorse Barack Obama.

Whew!

Apparently she spoke with some of her supporters after the AIPAC meeting and learned how angry they were, especially Charles Rangel. Seems he read her the Act, and he and others said they didn't understand why there wasn't a concession, that she was rude in the face of Obama's graciousness, and that she had to cut it out because they wouldn't support her anymore. It seems she had no clue.

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I have been disappointed by much of the news coverage and so-called "analysis" of the primaries, specifically by the idiotic assumption that voting patterns in party primaries will somehow predict voting patterns in the general election. This is crap! Democrats are ultimately going to unite (and unite enthusiastically) behind Barack Obama! Why? Because the alternative is John McCain and four to eight years of more-of-the-same. Disgruntled Clinton supporters will come to see that one's positions on issues and policy are far more important than one's race or the relative merits of vagina vs. penis. (I mean, c'mon! Would you really prefer somebody like Condi Rice, Elizabeth Dole or Phylis Schlafley just 'cause they're (supposedly) women?)

McCain is DEAD WRONG on all the issues (except, maybe, immigration), and when people see the contrast between him and Barack, it ain't even gonna be close!

The VP issue may be a bit thorny at this point, but I think Obama is smart enough to realize that he needs to be his own man and not get forced into a shotgun wedding (ala JFK with LBJ in '60). It would be quite foolish, given HRC's polarizing tendencies, to choose her, but there are many attractive candidates to choose from who can aid the ticket in any number of ways. I trust Obama to be brilliant in this regard!

Bursting with pride at this moment! I can hardly wait to say "President Obama!"

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The World needs a Big Change For The Better.

It would be disasterous to have Clinton in the back seat of the car. She would be continuously screaming in his ear willing him to crash, and preventing him from doing anything useful.

John Edwards seems a safe healthy choice. I was very impressed with him 4 years ago.

Hillary Clinton has shown her true colours and they are not nice.

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The American Electoral Charade
Wednesday, 04 June 2008
by Glen Ford

Two candidates with almost identical positions on virtually every issue fight to exhaustion over non-substantial concerns for months, and will doubtless soon celebrate having achieved "unity." Tweedle-dum Hillary Clinton and Tweedle-dee Barack Obama may or may not emerge from the primary battles as friends - but what does that matter? "Their policies are interchangeable, as are their advisors.... All serve the same masters: the financial corporations." The general election campaign, already begun, will see Obama and McCain draw politically closer each day, until at the end "the voters' choice will be just a matter of personality and individual taste" - and race.

"Very little of the general election campaign action will have anything to do with policy, just as in the primary campaign."

If all goes as scripted, the Democrats hope to spend from now to November congratulating themselves on their ability to forge unity out of the seeming chaos of the excruciating primary election season, now thankfully over. "Unity" will join "change" as a meaningless buzzword in the vapid Democratic vocabulary. The fact is, corporate Democrats have been unified all along, joined at the hip in grim determination to ultimately plant themselves so microscopically to the left of the Republicans that the voters' choice will be just a matter of personality and individual taste. So, who do you like - Barack Obama or John McCain? At the end of the general election campaign, that's what it will boil down to for millions of voters, as the two corporate dancers draw ever closer together.

To be sure, there will be lots of manufactured drama, but very little of the action will have anything to do with policy, just as in the primary campaign. McCain's age will be a constant undercurrent, as will Obama's race. But the actual conduct of the war in Iraq, for example, and precisely when it is to be brought to an end, will be buried as the candidates battle over who loves "the troops" the most, and which standard bearer's personality is best suited to waging never-ending war on "terror."

It does not really matter if Senators Obama and Clinton ever develop a fondness for one another, now that the pay-for-play primary charade is over. Their policies are interchangeable, as are their advisers, most of whom will wind up drawing big fat checks from some section or another of the larger Democratic campaign effort. All serve the same masters: the financial corporations that this season definitively redirected their infinitely corrupting campaign contributions to the Democrats. Hedge funds are reported to be backing Democrats, nine to one. They are betting that, whatever "change" occurs, it will not alter basic power relationships in ways that threaten the rule of the rich one iota.

"Whatever ‘change' occurs, it will not alter basic power relationships in ways that threaten the rule of the rich."

More here:

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You can almost see Hillary stamping her foot-on the verge of tears--and saying "Dammit, I DESERVED the nomination!"

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Hillary has won the popular vote but due to DNC math, has lost the nomination. No Democrat can ever again complain about the 2000 election if this is alllowed to stand.

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Granted Obama is the best of all candidates from either party.
But he is the candidate of the Wall St sector. 70% of his campaign funds come from Wall St Lawyers and Investment bankers.

A population of 300M people with 97% literacy rate cannot come up with a viable 3rd party that truly represents the needs of the working class? That is real tragedy...don't hold your breath expecting any significant change.

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Ms. Clinton has lost her grip.She could have taken the high road at last but she just can't believe her bet with Bubba is lost.She's looked more frazzled with each passing day and now she's just plain crazy.She actually expects him to allow her on the same ticket after trying to bring out a lunatic fringe assassin?This just proves she's incapable of logic.What is she waiting for?Luckily it doesn't matter anymore.

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I have seen projections that have Mccain winning the electoral vote. If he loses the popular vote, will you guys still complain even after the nomination has been stolen from Hillary?

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Identity politics people: you are being suckered by over-simplistic analysis and empty suits which falsely project the images that you demand from them.

I was a democrat and an AlterNet reader in another life (for the analogy-impaired; that's a metaphor, not a claim of reincarnation), before I realized that I was only a product of my schooling and indoctrination, and that crooks rule both parties, including Obama and his handlers. If you live in TV World, you might think the little sound bytes that come out in presidential debates were *actual issues*. Instead we have the Bosnia thing, the Jeremiah Wright thing, the RFK thing... how about some real issues, like what you're going to do to Iraq, and NAFTA/CAFTA/GATT, reining in the insurance companies who are destroying our health care system (oh wait, all candidates' plans are huge handouts to insurance companies), privatization of our last commons (social security, etc), the Federal Reserve's adulteration of our money supply, and so on.

The Democratic party didn't know what they were getting into putting out a candidate who could claim racism against his detractors, and a candidate who could claim sexism against her detractors.

Now I get to read stories about how sexism exists, and is REAL and PERVASIVE in society... but Hillary's thing isn't sexism, and anybody who says so is crazy, because we like Obama better. It's almost enough to undermine the whole neo-Marxist psudeo-analysis of hard-core feminism (ie, men cause the problems, women suffer the consequences).

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Clinton Suspends Campaign - www.TheOnion.com

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