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What Does 9/11 Have to Do with 60's Radicals? Ask Hillary Clinton
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Since last year, the Clinton campaign has been pushing the supposed Ayers connection to Barack Obama as an attack "theme" to take down his candidacy. But Clinton went even further in the debate suggesting that Ayers had reveled in the 9/11 attacks -- a false claim clearly meant to inflame Americans against Obama.
Ayers, now a graying college English professor living in Chicago, did support Obama's state senate campaign and served with Obama on a board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, a philanthropy that gives out grants aimed at alleviating poverty.
I first heard this Ayers connection from a Clinton operative in December when it already was circulating in media circles. However, mainstream journalists generally dismissed it as a cheap-shot case of guilt by a tenuous association. It got little traction.
But Clinton surrogates didn't give up, taking the Ayers attack line to right-wing talk radio and the Internet where it was kept alive. The Clinton's campaign's doggedness was rewarded as the issue surfaced prominently in Wednesday night 's debate in Philadelphia.
ABC News moderator George Stephanopoulos, whose national career was launched when he served as a top spokesman for President Bill Clinton, framed the Ayers question much as the Clinton campaign and the right-wing media have, suggesting some dangerous association between Obama and a mad bomber.
Stephanopoulos even suggested that Ayers had taken pleasure in the 9/11 attacks, saying: "In fact, on 9/11 he was quoted in the New York Times saying, 'I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough.'"
Obama was left protesting how the ABC moderators were conducting a debate largely devoid of policy substance and focused on silly distractions.
"The notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense, George," Obama responded.
"So this kind of game, in which anybody who I know, regardless of how flimsy the relationship is, is somehow -- somehow their ideas could be attributed to me - I think the American people are smarter than that. They're not going to suggest somehow that that is reflective of my views, because it obviously isn't."
Piling on
At this point, Sen. Clinton could have demurred, but instead chose to pile on. (After all, her campaign has been flogging this theme for months behind the scenes.) She also couldn't resist pushing the 9/11 hot button.
"If I'm not mistaken, that relationship with Mr. Ayers on this [Wood Fund of Chicago] board continued after 9/11 and after his reported comments, which were deeply hurtful to people in New York, and I would hope to every American, because they were published on 9/11 and he said he was just sorry they hadn't done more. And what they did was set bombs and in some instances people died," Clinton said.
In her comments, Clinton created the clear impression that Ayers had either hailed the 9/11 attacks or used the 9/11 tragedy as a ghoulish opportunity to suggest that more bombings were desirable.
But none of that is true. The offensive comment that Clinton and Stephanopoulos referred to was from an interview about a memoir that Ayers published earlier in 2001. The comment was included in a New York Times article that appeared in the newspaper's Sept. 11, 2001, edition.
As Sen. Clinton and Stephanopoulos surely know, that edition went to press on Sept. 10, hours before the 9/11 attacks. In other words, the Ayers comment had no relationship to the 9/11 attacks.
What Clinton and Stephanopoulos did was what lawyers refer to as "prejudicial" -- they introduced an emotional component, 9/11, in a deceptive way to elicit a visceral reaction from those listening.
"I'm going to have to respond to this just really quickly," Obama said after Clinton finished. "By Sen. Clinton's own vetting standards, I don't think she would make it, since President Clinton pardoned or commuted the sentences of two members of the Weather Underground, which I think is a slightly more significant act."
After the debate, the New York Times published a fact-checking article that noted the time discrepancies between Ayers's comment and 9/11:
"Mr. Ayers did not make the remarks after the attacks on the World Trade Center that day. The interview had been conducted earlier, in connection with a memoir that he had published, Fugitive Days, and he was referring to his experience in the Weather Underground."
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Apr 18, 2008 1:46 AM
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Congratulations to George Stephanopoulos for asking the stupidest question thus far in this campaign.
Honestly, all one has to do is to watch a videotape of the 1960 Kennedy/Nixon debate to be shaken awake as to how dumbed down America'a national political conversation has become in the forty-eight years since. The other night's debate was beyond embarrasing - it was an utter disgrace.
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Apr 18, 2008 3:02 AM
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This entire episode was pumped up over a "prejudicial" pack of lies by a corporate Washington-MSM axis before the Ayers issue was ever "vetted" by anyone.
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» "Law of inertia" = what keeps some people stuck back on 9/11/2001?
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» "Law of ignorance"
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» hagwind - what keeps some people so blind to the implications of that terrible day?
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Posted by: nobuko on Apr 18, 2008 3:47 AM
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If I were her, no way, would I bring up anything in someone's closet, especially when its only inuendo's; not facts, just trying to get it out there to discredit Barak; especially when her closet is LOADED with dirt, that can be FACT CHECKED!
Is the woman crazy or what? She needs to shut up and run on issues, these lies she is trying to spread are only hurting her. Talk about "Stuck on Stupid," Hillary gives this statement a new meaning!
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Posted by: Friartuck on Apr 18, 2008 4:04 AM
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Posted by: carbon-based on Apr 18, 2008 4:07 AM
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Posted by: jebpgh on Apr 18, 2008 4:08 AM
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When does the purge start so all of us former SDS members and BPP members and "fellow travelers" of the anti-war movement can realize how the Democratic Party isn't where we belong? They sure made that point in the park in 68, maybe it's time to do it again so we go away and leave the patriotic bastards alone with their correctness.
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Posted by: PJAW on Apr 18, 2008 5:00 AM
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The Enquirer, for those who may not know, is owned and operated by Rupert Murdoch, who has taken up the Clinton cause. Talk about guilt by association, sweet Jesus the hypocrisy knows no limits.
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Posted by: hagwind on Apr 18, 2008 5:08 AM
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It makes me crazy (but please don't pass the Prozac!) when people treat "the sixties" or the antiwar movement or student radicalism as monolithic, and when they assume that all hippies were politicos and all politicos hippies. Nothing that big is monolithic! But this foolishness hits a new low. It's so low I'm not even sure I get it: they're using one former member of the Weather Underground not only to discredit (a) the student movement, and (b) the sixties, but also to suggest a connection between '60s student radicals and "reveling" in the 9/11 attacks?? Have these people never taken Coherent Argument 101? How can they look at themselves in the mirror after they've insinuated this shit on nationwide TV?
You know what's really scary? What's really scary is that the current generation of mass-media commentators seem to have learned all their recent U.S. history -- and maybe all history of everywhere -- from the mass media.
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» Lies, lies and more lies.
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Posted by: Bushmaster on Apr 18, 2008 5:54 AM
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This of course has been shown to be what an ordinary person would consider to be lying, and deception, and outright deceit on Clinton's part.
The American people have, for the most part, been traumatized and this trauma is being continually reinforced in their minds by repetition and reminder.
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Posted by: JohnJlws on Apr 18, 2008 7:00 AM
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I’m here today to say I just made another contribution at barackobama.com as that’s the way to get him elected, am planning on making phone calls into Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Indiana, have written one editorial to the newspapers in these states and will write a lot more this weekend...
AND will, under no circumstances, support the candidacy of Hillary Clinton.
The Clintons' Rovian tactics, the Rumsfeld-type blatant lies, the complete Cheney-style dishonesty, not to mention the GW-ish incompetence, is something I refuse to live with for another four or eight years (and I know her more rabid supporters will say my candidate, the presumptive democratic nominee, is a liar, but please don't provide me your list of "stupid" here as the "lies" you list have the voracity and substance of his big, scary "association" in this article).
If, by some miracle, because she’s obviously too ignorant to understand she’s lost (perhaps she’s not good with math, or cannot read), she secures the nomination, I probably won’t vote unless it’s close and then I’ll probably vote McCain—I hate that he thinks we’re “winning,” but at least I sort of know what he thinks (which is admittedly and shockingly probably less than Clinton) and he isn’t a gold medal liar like she obviously is.
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Posted by: Dextrophage on Apr 18, 2008 7:16 AM
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Posted by: HughScott on Apr 18, 2008 7:24 AM
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If Hillary can't steal the nomination from Obama, expect her to torpedo the senator's campaign so she can run against President McCain in 2012.
On the bright side, if Hillary becomes the Democratic candidate, Obama can run again in 2012 against President McCain and win BIG time -- assuming America survives four more years of GOP White House rule.
Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican, Obama supporter and the editor of www.PhonyFighterPilot.com, the only website about George W. Bush that presents irrefutable, smoking-gun proof of White House corruption.
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Posted by: JohnJlws on Apr 18, 2008 7:33 AM
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 18, 2008 8:29 AM
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I was convinced of that by the Gibson-Stephanopoulos staged hit attack on Barak Obama - obviously Hillary was the beneficiary there. Forget about her. I will never vote for her, under any circumstances whatsoever.
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Posted by: jhecht on Apr 18, 2008 8:43 AM
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and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfUajhL24I&feature=related
part 2 - spread it wide & far!
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Posted by: RobNLA on Apr 18, 2008 9:06 AM
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When Hillary decided to run for President I thought she would do an ok job. She wasn't my favorite (I liked Edwards more), but I figured if she ended up the nomine, I would definitely vote for her. Back then she appeared to me to be a tough politician, but she had our backs...was at least a Democrat who tried to push the health care issue, even when it wasn't such a popular issue.
But this campaign has really changed that perception. Somewhere along the way, the Clintons have decided to adopt every dirty political trick played on them by the Republican smear machine. And worse yet, instead of using those tricks against Republicans (fighting fire with fire), they have decided to use those tricks against a fellow Democrat.
So now the main thing I dislike about the Republican Party (their smear machine), is now something I dislike about the Clintons as well.
Obama was right in the last debate, the Clinton's learned the wrong lesson from Bill's time in office. What we have seen during this campaign is the Clinton version of the Republican attack machine, and it's just as repulsive and dishonest and misleading.
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Posted by: sre on Apr 18, 2008 10:23 AM
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I think I'll vote for "none of the above". Oh well, I'll just go puke now.
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Posted by: Grandma Crabby on Apr 18, 2008 10:26 AM
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Some of the garbage she comes up with to spew amazes me. She obviously has several people working overtime digging, digging, digging. She has become as nasty politically as Mr. Rove.
I've been doing some political comedy videos and posting them on you tube and other places. Some are on my video production tips blog which has a link below with my name. Plus There's a link to my you tube page.
My personal favorite is are the one where I make fun of Hillary for her habit of being Hillary.
Another is where I ask Bill O'Reilly why he needs to use a loofah. (That was part of his sexual harassment lawsuit where the young women claimed he wanted to use a loofah as a sex toy.)
Go check them out and pass them around!
Grandma looks bee-u-ti-fool in her blue yarn wig!
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Posted by: soowee on Apr 18, 2008 2:04 PM
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They are a pair. This kind of nonsense has been exemplified by both Hillary and her husband since the early 1990's with the typical arrogance and hubris that infects them so. Notwithstanding the many unfair things that did happen to them back then, they ensure that they deserve any and all of it by their own arrogant behaviors.
I will NEVER vote for Hillary. I did not vote for her worthless husband in 1996, either.
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Posted by: bessie on Apr 18, 2008 2:07 PM
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Posted by: JimmyVaughan on Apr 18, 2008 2:37 PM
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"The Brink's robbery of 1981 (October 20, 1981) was an armed robbery in which several members of the Weather Underground (David Gilbert, Samuel Brown, Judith Alice Clark, Kathy Boudin, and Marilyn Buck) and the Black Liberation Army (Mutulu Shakur, Kuwasi Balagoon, Samuel Smith and Sekou Odinga, Cecilio "Chui" Ferguson, Samuel Brown (AKA Solomon Bouines) and an unknown number of accomplices, stole $1.6 million from a Brink's armored car at the Nanuet Mall, in Nanuet, New York, USA. The perpetrators killed two police officers, Edward O'Grady and Waverly Brown, and a Brinks guard, Peter Paige."
I hope you understand that Obama's connection to Weathermen, Bill Ayers, is a huge liability and will be used by the Republican smear machine.
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Posted by: lvdragonlady on Apr 18, 2008 2:56 PM
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I just find this extremely amusing.
We got old, but have we grown up?
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Posted by: jaylindberg@hotmail.com on Apr 18, 2008 3:23 PM
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This country is ripe for another rebellion. All we need is the power structure to kick a few more blocks out from our infrastructure and we will have nothing left to lose. We will have justice and it will not be pretty or quiet. Justice will be a dish, best served cold.
Jay Lindberg
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Posted by: funnyguy on Apr 18, 2008 3:43 PM
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This was not something that happened when she was 8 years old living in Indonesia, but something she chose to do as an adult. It would be fair to ask her why.
It also would be fair to ask her why she has chosen hypocrisy as her main campaign theme.
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Posted by: desidid on Apr 18, 2008 5:43 PM
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Written by the original American Revolutionaries
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Posted by: kellysgarden on Apr 18, 2008 7:46 PM
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This is indeed an uncanny similarity between the 60s and the false-flag attacks of 9/11.
All of the Joint Chiefs signed off on it, but when it was presented to JFK, he killed the plan and reassigned Lemnitzer.
The Northwoods Documents can be found and read online by simply doing a google search.
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Posted by: BO2BS on Apr 18, 2008 11:22 PM
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When Obama teamed up with Edwards, it was OK. When MSNBC was unfair to Clinton, it was OK. But no, don't touch our pretty boy now???
Whiners!!!
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Apr 19, 2008 9:29 AM
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jdfu!
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Posted by: HeKnew on Apr 20, 2008 1:45 AM
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Direct Democracy
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Posted by: Jackdemocracy08 on Apr 30, 2008 4:28 AM
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If you’re tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support Clinton or Obama
If you haven't done so yet, http://www.lobbydelegates.com enables you to do that. please write a message to each of your state's superdelegates
It takes a moment, but what's a few minutes now worth to get Obama in office?!
Sending a note to current Obama supporters lets them know it's appreciated, sending a note to current Clinton supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Obama, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Obama. It's that easy...
Clinton Supporters too …. !
It takes a moment, but what's a few minutes now worth to get Clinton in office?!
Sending a note to current Clinton supporters lets them know it's appreciated, sending a note to current Obama supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Clinton, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Clinton. It's that easy...
REALLY easy to identify the superdelegates and reach out to them! It includes a list of names, addresses, and affiliations of superdelegates from each state including your state
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Apr 18, 2008 1:46 AM
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Congratulations to George Stephanopoulos for asking the stupidest question thus far in this campaign.
Honestly, all one has to do is to watch a videotape of the 1960 Kennedy/Nixon debate to be shaken awake as to how dumbed down America'a national political conversation has become in the forty-eight years since. The other night's debate was beyond embarrasing - it was an utter disgrace.
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Apr 18, 2008 3:02 AM
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This entire episode was pumped up over a "prejudicial" pack of lies by a corporate Washington-MSM axis before the Ayers issue was ever "vetted" by anyone.
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» "Law of inertia" = what keeps some people stuck back on 9/11/2001?
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» "Law of ignorance"
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» hagwind - what keeps some people so blind to the implications of that terrible day?
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» Are you referring to the N.J. dancers and art students, by chance?
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Posted by: nobuko on Apr 18, 2008 3:47 AM
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If I were her, no way, would I bring up anything in someone's closet, especially when its only inuendo's; not facts, just trying to get it out there to discredit Barak; especially when her closet is LOADED with dirt, that can be FACT CHECKED!
Is the woman crazy or what? She needs to shut up and run on issues, these lies she is trying to spread are only hurting her. Talk about "Stuck on Stupid," Hillary gives this statement a new meaning!
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Posted by: Friartuck on Apr 18, 2008 4:04 AM
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Posted by: carbon-based on Apr 18, 2008 4:07 AM
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Posted by: jebpgh on Apr 18, 2008 4:08 AM
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When does the purge start so all of us former SDS members and BPP members and "fellow travelers" of the anti-war movement can realize how the Democratic Party isn't where we belong? They sure made that point in the park in 68, maybe it's time to do it again so we go away and leave the patriotic bastards alone with their correctness.
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Posted by: PJAW on Apr 18, 2008 5:00 AM
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The Enquirer, for those who may not know, is owned and operated by Rupert Murdoch, who has taken up the Clinton cause. Talk about guilt by association, sweet Jesus the hypocrisy knows no limits.
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Posted by: hagwind on Apr 18, 2008 5:08 AM
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It makes me crazy (but please don't pass the Prozac!) when people treat "the sixties" or the antiwar movement or student radicalism as monolithic, and when they assume that all hippies were politicos and all politicos hippies. Nothing that big is monolithic! But this foolishness hits a new low. It's so low I'm not even sure I get it: they're using one former member of the Weather Underground not only to discredit (a) the student movement, and (b) the sixties, but also to suggest a connection between '60s student radicals and "reveling" in the 9/11 attacks?? Have these people never taken Coherent Argument 101? How can they look at themselves in the mirror after they've insinuated this shit on nationwide TV?
You know what's really scary? What's really scary is that the current generation of mass-media commentators seem to have learned all their recent U.S. history -- and maybe all history of everywhere -- from the mass media.
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» Lies, lies and more lies.
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Posted by: jeffreytaos on Apr 18, 2008 5:10 AM
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Posted by: jeffreytaos on Apr 18, 2008 5:24 AM
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Posted by: Bushmaster on Apr 18, 2008 5:54 AM
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This of course has been shown to be what an ordinary person would consider to be lying, and deception, and outright deceit on Clinton's part.
The American people have, for the most part, been traumatized and this trauma is being continually reinforced in their minds by repetition and reminder.
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Posted by: xvictor on Apr 18, 2008 6:12 AM
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Posted by: JohnJlws on Apr 18, 2008 7:00 AM
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I’m here today to say I just made another contribution at barackobama.com as that’s the way to get him elected, am planning on making phone calls into Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Indiana, have written one editorial to the newspapers in these states and will write a lot more this weekend...
AND will, under no circumstances, support the candidacy of Hillary Clinton.
The Clintons' Rovian tactics, the Rumsfeld-type blatant lies, the complete Cheney-style dishonesty, not to mention the GW-ish incompetence, is something I refuse to live with for another four or eight years (and I know her more rabid supporters will say my candidate, the presumptive democratic nominee, is a liar, but please don't provide me your list of "stupid" here as the "lies" you list have the voracity and substance of his big, scary "association" in this article).
If, by some miracle, because she’s obviously too ignorant to understand she’s lost (perhaps she’s not good with math, or cannot read), she secures the nomination, I probably won’t vote unless it’s close and then I’ll probably vote McCain—I hate that he thinks we’re “winning,” but at least I sort of know what he thinks (which is admittedly and shockingly probably less than Clinton) and he isn’t a gold medal liar like she obviously is.
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Posted by: Dextrophage on Apr 18, 2008 7:16 AM
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Posted by: HughScott on Apr 18, 2008 7:24 AM
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If Hillary can't steal the nomination from Obama, expect her to torpedo the senator's campaign so she can run against President McCain in 2012.
On the bright side, if Hillary becomes the Democratic candidate, Obama can run again in 2012 against President McCain and win BIG time -- assuming America survives four more years of GOP White House rule.
Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican, Obama supporter and the editor of www.PhonyFighterPilot.com, the only website about George W. Bush that presents irrefutable, smoking-gun proof of White House corruption.
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Posted by: JohnJlws on Apr 18, 2008 7:33 AM
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 18, 2008 8:29 AM
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I was convinced of that by the Gibson-Stephanopoulos staged hit attack on Barak Obama - obviously Hillary was the beneficiary there. Forget about her. I will never vote for her, under any circumstances whatsoever.
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Posted by: jhecht on Apr 18, 2008 8:43 AM
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and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfUajhL24I&feature=related
part 2 - spread it wide & far!
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Posted by: RobNLA on Apr 18, 2008 9:06 AM
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When Hillary decided to run for President I thought she would do an ok job. She wasn't my favorite (I liked Edwards more), but I figured if she ended up the nomine, I would definitely vote for her. Back then she appeared to me to be a tough politician, but she had our backs...was at least a Democrat who tried to push the health care issue, even when it wasn't such a popular issue.
But this campaign has really changed that perception. Somewhere along the way, the Clintons have decided to adopt every dirty political trick played on them by the Republican smear machine. And worse yet, instead of using those tricks against Republicans (fighting fire with fire), they have decided to use those tricks against a fellow Democrat.
So now the main thing I dislike about the Republican Party (their smear machine), is now something I dislike about the Clintons as well.
Obama was right in the last debate, the Clinton's learned the wrong lesson from Bill's time in office. What we have seen during this campaign is the Clinton version of the Republican attack machine, and it's just as repulsive and dishonest and misleading.
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» Take a look, JimmyVaughan, you might be surprised by what you find:
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Posted by: sre on Apr 18, 2008 10:23 AM
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I think I'll vote for "none of the above". Oh well, I'll just go puke now.
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Posted by: Grandma Crabby on Apr 18, 2008 10:26 AM
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Some of the garbage she comes up with to spew amazes me. She obviously has several people working overtime digging, digging, digging. She has become as nasty politically as Mr. Rove.
I've been doing some political comedy videos and posting them on you tube and other places. Some are on my video production tips blog which has a link below with my name. Plus There's a link to my you tube page.
My personal favorite is are the one where I make fun of Hillary for her habit of being Hillary.
Another is where I ask Bill O'Reilly why he needs to use a loofah. (That was part of his sexual harassment lawsuit where the young women claimed he wanted to use a loofah as a sex toy.)
Go check them out and pass them around!
Grandma looks bee-u-ti-fool in her blue yarn wig!
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Posted by: soowee on Apr 18, 2008 2:04 PM
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They are a pair. This kind of nonsense has been exemplified by both Hillary and her husband since the early 1990's with the typical arrogance and hubris that infects them so. Notwithstanding the many unfair things that did happen to them back then, they ensure that they deserve any and all of it by their own arrogant behaviors.
I will NEVER vote for Hillary. I did not vote for her worthless husband in 1996, either.
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Posted by: bessie on Apr 18, 2008 2:07 PM
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Posted by: JimmyVaughan on Apr 18, 2008 2:37 PM
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"The Brink's robbery of 1981 (October 20, 1981) was an armed robbery in which several members of the Weather Underground (David Gilbert, Samuel Brown, Judith Alice Clark, Kathy Boudin, and Marilyn Buck) and the Black Liberation Army (Mutulu Shakur, Kuwasi Balagoon, Samuel Smith and Sekou Odinga, Cecilio "Chui" Ferguson, Samuel Brown (AKA Solomon Bouines) and an unknown number of accomplices, stole $1.6 million from a Brink's armored car at the Nanuet Mall, in Nanuet, New York, USA. The perpetrators killed two police officers, Edward O'Grady and Waverly Brown, and a Brinks guard, Peter Paige."
I hope you understand that Obama's connection to Weathermen, Bill Ayers, is a huge liability and will be used by the Republican smear machine.
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Posted by: lvdragonlady on Apr 18, 2008 2:56 PM
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I just find this extremely amusing.
We got old, but have we grown up?
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Posted by: jaylindberg@hotmail.com on Apr 18, 2008 3:23 PM
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This country is ripe for another rebellion. All we need is the power structure to kick a few more blocks out from our infrastructure and we will have nothing left to lose. We will have justice and it will not be pretty or quiet. Justice will be a dish, best served cold.
Jay Lindberg
Author of- Drug War Economics- The Machine Behind the Madness
Nuke the Children (An honest assessment of our nuclear waste disposal policies)
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Posted by: funnyguy on Apr 18, 2008 3:43 PM
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This was not something that happened when she was 8 years old living in Indonesia, but something she chose to do as an adult. It would be fair to ask her why.
It also would be fair to ask her why she has chosen hypocrisy as her main campaign theme.
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Posted by: desidid on Apr 18, 2008 5:43 PM
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Written by the original American Revolutionaries
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Posted by: kellysgarden on Apr 18, 2008 7:46 PM
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This is indeed an uncanny similarity between the 60s and the false-flag attacks of 9/11.
All of the Joint Chiefs signed off on it, but when it was presented to JFK, he killed the plan and reassigned Lemnitzer.
The Northwoods Documents can be found and read online by simply doing a google search.
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Posted by: BO2BS on Apr 18, 2008 11:22 PM
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When Obama teamed up with Edwards, it was OK. When MSNBC was unfair to Clinton, it was OK. But no, don't touch our pretty boy now???
Whiners!!!
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Apr 19, 2008 9:29 AM
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jdfu!
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Posted by: HeKnew on Apr 20, 2008 1:45 AM
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Direct Democracy
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If you’re tired of waiting around for those super delegates to make a decision already, go to LobbyDelegates.com and push them to support Clinton or Obama
If you haven't done so yet, http://www.lobbydelegates.com enables you to do that. please write a message to each of your state's superdelegates
It takes a moment, but what's a few minutes now worth to get Obama in office?!
Sending a note to current Obama supporters lets them know it's appreciated, sending a note to current Clinton supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Obama, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Obama. It's that easy...
Clinton Supporters too …. !
It takes a moment, but what's a few minutes now worth to get Clinton in office?!
Sending a note to current Clinton supporters lets them know it's appreciated, sending a note to current Obama supporters can hopefully sway them to change their vote to Clinton, and sending a note to the uncommitted folks will hopefully sway them to vote for Clinton. It's that easy...
REALLY easy to identify the superdelegates and reach out to them! It includes a list of names, addresses, and affiliations of superdelegates from each state including your state
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