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Election 2008

Obama Gets Honest About Small Town America's Decay, Elitists Lash out

By Jane Smiley, Huffington Post. Posted April 14, 2008.


When Barack Obama tells the truth about conditions as we know them Hillary takes the low road.

You know, I just spent seven and a half years disagreeing with the administration that has given us an unprecedented military and economic mess. I saw it coming, it came, and in some ways it was worse, and promises to get worse, than I foresaw. I the course of these seven years, I have had my patriotism questioned and demeaned fairly often. I was even put in a book, as one of a hundred people who were hurting America.

When I got into this book, my relatives worried that I would get shot by some rightwing nut, even though several of them were and are rightwing nuts themselves (and they carry guns). All this time, though, I considered myself a patriot and a loyal American because I was able to see the destruction that was being wreaked upon the nation, and in particular, upon the middle and working classes, by the Republican liars and war criminals and job outsourcers and health care destroyers and army wreckers and infrastructure ignorers and media whores and agriculture blackmailers (see this month's Vanity Fair).

So now, Barack Obama tells the truth about conditions as we know them -- that the countryside and the small towns are dying in many places in our country, and that the corporatocracy doesn't care enough to do a thing about it. He points out that immigrant-baiting, gay-baiting, gun-baiting, and religious pandering have helped to destroy those towns and that countryside, that those being destroyed have been cynically enlisted by their very own destroyers to provide the votes that help accomplish the destruction. And this is what Senator Hillary Clinton says about it: "Senator Obama's remarks were elitist and out of touch. They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans."

From Senator Clinton's remarks, I infer that to actually see what has gone on in the US in the last 20 years is unAmerican. It doesn't matter who you are, where you were born, what you pay in taxes, what else you might have contributed to the culture, how you vote, who you support. If you don't support fundamentalist religion, job outsourcing, and free access to guns, then you are not even American.

I cannot believe how angry this makes me. I cannot believe that after the last seven and a half years, I can even get this angry. Yes, I know she is pandering to her audience. Yes, I know she will do anything to get elected. Yes, I know that she and Bill Clinton are corrupt to the core, and that I should have never expected anything better of her.

But, please, any of you angry white women who still support this craven shill, don't mention it to me. Do me the following favor -- apologize to your children for not stopping the war that Hillary voted for, the war that is going to impoverish them. Then apologize to them for the effects of global warming that are going to make their lives hell. Then apologize to them for the school shooting they may someday see, the one where the kid gets the guns out of his father's gun case, or buys at a gunshow. Apologize to them for the meaningless wars they are going to fight and pay for. Then tell them that "American values" killed their hopes and maybe killed them. And ask them if they think it's going to be worth it.

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Jane Smiley is a novelist and essayist. Her novel A Thousand Acres won the Pulitzer Prize and the National Book Critics Circle Award in 1992.

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» RE: Something to ponder... Posted by: seilnotnilc
» RE: Something to ponder... Posted by: davescott
» RE: Something ELSE to ponder... Posted by: Tom Degan
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» RE: Something to ponder... Posted by: brock_samson
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» RE: Something to ponder... Posted by: texasalleykat
A few thoughts on these comments
Posted by: andabottleof_rum on Apr 14, 2008 1:23 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
There are several issues at hand with Obama's comments.

One is the reduction of "beliefs and values," like gun rights and religion, to material motives, which is to say that clinging to ideals is a way to cope with feelings of failure in one's financial and career life. Personally I agree with interpreting ideals as the outgrowth of economic concerns. Yet there is danger to the status quo when people realize they've been fed ideology as a substitute for real financial gain. Hence much of the uproar that will surely result from these comments.

Another issue is that calling people bitter, even if it is a statement of fact, can be taken as an insult. The phrase "you're bitter" - which is the way Obama's comments might be received by some blue-collar workers and rural people, and surely how they will be portrayed by Clinton and the Republicans - is closely related to memes like "you're just envious," "you're resentful because you're poor," "you need to take responsibility for your own life," "you're a failure because you have a bad attitude" etc.

Calling a person bitter may come across as derogatory because this accusation ties in with a pattern of thought and belief in the U.S. whereby it is shameful for the "have nots" to resent the "haves." Granted it would seem entirely justified for the unprivileged to resent the privileged if their low status derives from no fault of their own, yet the self-made man ideology in American culture makes it taboo for people to be envious and resentful over arbitrary inequalities. Envy, like bitterness, is treated as a sign of weakness, an indication that a person is a failure. It is stigmatized, since a failure is the last thing an American wants to be, what with the rhetoric about meritocracy and the land of opportunity (which is partly accurate yet also exaggerated).

My point is that yes, a big furor will be made over Obama's comments, and it will be motivated largely by political expediency. Yet this does not mean there are not real reasons why these comments are risque. The idea that working-class people's politics and beliefs are motivated by a desire to seek consolation in non-economic concerns, since the economic world poses too many obstacles to them, stems from Marx, which will put the Republicans' panties in a twist. Also, in U.S. culture it is generally an insult to be called bitter, as this accusation evokes a network of related denunciations, all wrapped up with the idea that people at the bottom of the social order deserve to be there due to personal inadequacies, hence many rural and blue-collar people might take Obama's comments as demeaning, even if they are not intended as such.

The value of his comments is that they highlight a particularly important crossroads of ideology: whether bitterness is acceptable or unacceptable, justified or unjustifiable. The self-made man ideology, which is dominant in the U.S., would suggest status envy is never justified, as anyone with talent and drive can be successful, and unsuccessful people deserve to be at the bottom because they lack ability and/or motivation. Commonsense, on the other hand, would say it is understandable when people are bitter because they are struggling economically through no fault of their own.

If Obama's comments raise this debate and call into question the assumptions of the self-made man ideology, then they are valuable indeed.

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» RE:Where's the Outrage ? Posted by: Sushi
» RE: A few thoughts on these comments Posted by: fratricide08
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» RE: A few thoughts on these comments Posted by: blackie4aces
Yesterday, the papers pointed out...
Posted by: YogiBear on Apr 14, 2008 2:36 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...that, on the issues, Hillary and Obama are almost two peas in a pod. That they approach debate differently does not make Hillary a bad choice for president. I find Obama's speeches and responses to hard questions to have a calming effect on me and I hope he'll do the same for others as president. But tough-as-nails Hillary might serve well in some instances as well.

For the life of me, I can't understand why people are so convinced that Clinton is a bad choice for president. On the issues -- the things that matter -- she's neck and neck with Obama.

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» RE: Yesterday, the papers pointed out... Posted by: Frank J. Burris
» Yes, "mindless hatred..." Posted by: buffeliscious
» RE: Yesterday, the papers pointed out... Posted by: Frank J. Burris
» Any Dem will do, but.... Posted by: Hans B
Hillary Clinton? Mark Penn & Burson-Marsteller
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 14, 2008 4:04 AM   
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That's why Hillary would make a horrifically bad president - she chose the head of one of the slimiest global PR firms to run her campaign. That point to the kind of people she's likely to fill the government with: Democratic versions of Karl Rove (Mark Penn is the one behind the let's-go-nasty campaign that Hillary has decided to run.)

This is the same guy who was negotiating the trade deal with representatives of Colombia's government - see the NYT article, Union Killings Peril Trade Pact With Colombia, Apr 2008 for more on that.

Then there's China. Hillary, child of WalMart, has publicly criticized China for the cameras - but the company whose board she was on, and who she praised effusively, relies on Chinese slave labor to keep its shelves stocked - and guess who is providing PR advice to China regarding the Olympics? Why, Mark Penn and Burson-Marsteller:

"Burson-Marsteller is uniquely placed given its position as the number one public relations agency in both China and Italy while its affiliate, National PR, is ranked number one in Canada. Burson-Marsteller China is establishing a dedicated practice supporting clients who are sponsors of the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games. - B-M press release.

A total lack of honesty coupled with a vicious ambition - not suitable material for a President. Many Democrats would have a hard time voting for Hillary Clinton if she was the Democratic candidate - and that appears to be why so many Republicans are supporting her.

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james d granata
Posted by: seilnotnilc on Apr 14, 2008 4:08 AM   
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So people are bitter? They have a right to be and when conditions are such that people feel they have little control what's wrong with turning to the familiar? Doing what you like is one way to break the crisis cycle and get away from your problems temporarily. So if you feel that God helps: go to church, like fishing or hunting; do it. the world has gone wacky and the news media talks tragedy, crime and mayhem constantly so you like to hang with people like yourself and are wary of strangers; so what?
Once again this is much ado about nothing except for Hillary to continue her candidacy. I read somewhere recently that Hillary's candidacy is analogous to Glenn Close's character in ‘Fatal Attraction’. Just when you think she’s dead, she’s back, spewing water like Hillary spews lies, but, whew, in the end she’s dead.

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» RE: james d granata Posted by: Basenjis
“Because Hillary will do, and has done, whatever {she believes} will get her re-elected,”
Posted by: Christie on Apr 14, 2008 4:09 AM   
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This comment subject title was taken from the previous comment:“Because she will do, and has done, whatever will get her re-elected,”

Look at Hillary's vote for the iraq war (2002) and for the Kyle-Lieberman vote, then ask yourself if you can believe and trust her campaign statements. Consider this recent statement. Hillary Clinton’s recent innuendo-dripping remark was that her Christian faith “is the faith of my parents and my grandparents.” That is certainly a code comment to remind voters that Obama “is not a Muslim, as far as I know.”

Her “faith” statement brings to mind to me “faith of our fathers living still, in spite of dungeon, fire, and sword.” So it comes across to me as another innuendo suggesting any connection to the religion of Islam is undesirable in a presidential candidate. The issue is not whether she believes that about Islam but that she believes projecting that attitude will help get her elected.

Hillary states Hillary half truths and talks to her audience as if she is a savior. She says she is the candidate of solutions. Her solution number one this weekend seemed to be to seize on one word and attack a fellow Democrat.

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» The perfect definition... Posted by: djnoll
The glreat dissembler
Posted by: GPFrank on Apr 14, 2008 4:18 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Politics, politics, the art of dissembling.
And what is Hillary but the great dissembler.
Instead of telling an eleven year old child when asking "Is there a Santa Claus"
"There is no Santa Claus?" the dissembler says, "Everyone has a Santa Claus in his/her heart."
The truth to the dissembler is not that bigotry damages this country and especially its small towns but that bigotry is the only answer to elitists. Hillary, please shut up for once.

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Nailed it Again
Posted by: Urstrly on Apr 14, 2008 4:20 AM   
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Ah, Jane, I'm with you completely. Obama's remarks reminded me of a trip I took last summer out to Falling Water, the Frank Lloyd Wright house in Western Pennsylvania. Gorgeous country, but dotted with absolutely devastated towns and small cities.

I heard Obama's analysis completely differently than it played in the news and in the Clinton campaign: I heard it as empathy, as recognition that we have written off these places and people have a right to feel resentful.

As I said to my daughter, the traditional Democratic approach to such bitterness is to pitch to it, for candidates to "play poor" and to promise jobs that will never be delivered. That's the Clinton approach.

In Obama we have the real thing. He's thinking aloud, not waiting for someone to tell him what to say. We ought to wish every American had a touch of his elitism, the kind that can put itself in someone else's shoes without pandering.

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» RE: Nailed it Again Posted by: bbfmail
» RE: Nailed it to 911 Posted by: futurefarm
» RE: Nailed YOU. Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Nailed it Again Posted by: nebgirl
Obama's comments were like a good physician's advice
Posted by: s.duplantier on Apr 14, 2008 4:27 AM   
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If an astute physician notices your symptoms, points out them out to you, and then offers a diagnosis, it may be something you are not happy about hearing.

If you got a second opinion from a craven quack who lies to you and then tells you the first doctor's diagnosis disrespects you, it might be comforting at first to delude yourself into thinking that everything is fine.

But then there are those damn symptoms that don't go away.

Ultimately, you'll be grateful for the honest opinion from the honest doctor who told you the truth, and be really angry at the quack who lied to you.

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Why you are dead flat wrong.
Posted by: davescott on Apr 14, 2008 4:28 AM   
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If Barack Obama is interested in actually being President -- as opposed to impressing a bunch of rich Californians and smug, lunatic-left bloggers -- the road to the White House does not include talk about people "clinging" to their religion or anti-trade sentiment. You cannot spend time parading in front of a bunch of churchy props, or blasting trade agreeements, for that matter -- and talk about people "clinging" to their religion and their anti-trade views. It smacks of Marx's "religion as opiate", which is only good if you plan to lead a coalition of Marxist voters to your victory, and it makes you sound like a condescending fraud.

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» RE: Why you are dead flat wrong. Posted by: dronkenpiraat
moreover
Posted by: davescott on Apr 14, 2008 4:38 AM   
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This is not Hillary Clinton's war. Let us be very clear whose war this is. This is George W. Bush's war. He lied to get us in it and without his insistence, his arrogance, and his criminal stupidity, it would not have happened. And for all the mileage Obama's gotten out of the fact that he was not a US Senator in 2002, can Ms. Smiley tell us how many bills Obama has introduced to cut off funding for the war?

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» RE: She couldn't do her homework? Posted by: GrannyBgood
» RE: She couldn't do her homework? Posted by: isnamthere
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» poor citizenship Posted by: pfeifer999
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» Sen Clinton = Condi Rice Posted by: agathena
Puhleeeze...
Posted by: BST on Apr 14, 2008 5:06 AM   
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Contending that core beliefs are kneejerk reaction to the economy is misguided and suggests either deep misunderstanding of America's diversity or disrespect for it. Senator Obama's comments are startling.

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» RE: Kneejerk reactions Posted by: GrannyBgood
» RE: Kneejerk reactions Posted by: LeeAnnG
» RE: Puhleeeze... Posted by: stuarts
Another Apology To Your Children
Posted by: cherylholmes on Apr 14, 2008 5:06 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Apologize to your children for getting their asses killed in Iraq or any number of wars these people engage in, apologize to them for getting them maimed, losing limbs, eyes or worse and fucking up their lives forever. When you have children now, be prepared for all of this and more, especially if you support all this bullshit. Why do you think these assholes are pro birth? So they can keep the bodies they need to fight wars..outsourcing was all part of it...no jobs here, join the military, the only jobs left, and get your ass killed. I guess that's what everyone wants now days, their children and grandchildren killed in the middle east.

Now we're recruiting for the Army in Africa too, obviously to solve their over population problems and because they're the only ones who would join up given their economic situation.

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Hillary talks cracker: tells of her Welfare days.
Posted by: cognitorex on Apr 14, 2008 5:39 AM   
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Hillary says. "When in Pennsylvania cracker land, talk cracker."
"That may sound condescending but it's just politics. Talk guns and beer."
"Barack, however, even tho' he was telling a known version of cracker truth, used a five syllable word plus complicated syntax.That, my friends, is elitist. Shor' is."
"Back when Momma, Poppa and I were on welfare.......and the revenuers were looking for our stills ......"

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WHY DO YOU COURT BIAS WHILE LAMBASTING BIAS?
Posted by: loxias on Apr 14, 2008 5:59 AM   
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"I know Clinton is corrupt to the core" Well... I know you lied in every part of this article but it fits Ma Jones agenda, thus it is presented without interruption or need to back it up. Ma Jones don't like Clinton, so if you don't like Clinton, it will sell subscriptions, therefore print anything you want. Rush Limbaugh could easily have written this article, or any other crap right -wing anger spewing moron. "Get angry" is an action I find myself only doing when I read the diatribes that pose as articles on Ma Jones. "Angry left wing woman" is not NECESSARILY the definition of reporter, although a reporter could certainly be one. Figure out the difference please.

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rimchamp77
Posted by: rimchamp77 on Apr 14, 2008 6:02 AM   
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The trouble is that pop culture is dictated by the mass media and characters in movies like Dirty Harry and John Wayne's marine in "Green Berets". Cops and mass murderers are underdogs battling a corrupt system that protects "bad guys" - who are cartoon like in nature. When someone challenges the image of the US as the definitive "guy in white hat" - he is said to be "elitist". Movies are about feeling good about those in authority and the few bad actors in authority invariably are rooted out and punished by that same establishment. Aren't we all wonderful? Only an elitist would suggest otherwise.

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Irony: Bitter people becoming even more bitter at being called bitter
Posted by: war_on_tara on Apr 14, 2008 6:04 AM   
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I'm familiar with small-town Pennsylvanians (relatives) and they sure seem bitter to me. They seem happy only when they can shoot at something, preferably something large enough that they'll have a chance at actually hitting it (deer, proverbial broad side of a barn, etc.). Religion seems bitter enough also. And if they get to a Pirates game once a summer, and to Florida once a winter, that's enough of the outside world for them.

I suppose it was bad politics to say it. Hillary jumped right on it - of course small-town Pennsylvanians are some of the most "optimistic" and "resilient" people you can find, blah blah blah.

But don't Americans in other parts of the country enjoy having their real qualities recognized? For instance, don't Southerners nowadays get a thrill out of being considered angry and resentful? I get the impression they do - is this incorrect? Don't New Yorkers enjoy being considered rude and abrupt? Don't Minnesotans make jokes about their reputation for phony niceness? Don't Californians love being considered parochial and uninterested in the rest of the country?

What's so bad about being bitter?

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» You're funny Posted by: Hans B
Hillary
Posted by: PJAW on Apr 14, 2008 6:07 AM   
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I really hope the voters in Pennsylvania catch on to your two-faced, mean spirited, completely dishonest pandering, and hand you your walking papers on primary day. All the polls indicate that they're beginning to see you for what you are and are bailing out on your candidacy.

Is there really that much difference between Obama and Clinton, some ask. Yeah, there really is. The fact that the question is even being asked is disquieting.

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IQ
Posted by: kiwijohn on Apr 14, 2008 6:06 AM   
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: IQ and the Wealth of Nations is a controversial 2002 book by Dr. Richard Lynn, Professor Emeritus of Psychology at the University of Ulster, Northern Ireland, and Dr. Tatu Vanhanen, Professor Emeritus of Political Science at the University of Tampere, Tampere, Finland. The book argues that differences in national income (in the form of per capita gross domestic product) correlate with differences in the average national intelligence quotient (IQ). The authors interpret this correlation as showing that IQ is one important factor contributing to differences in national wealth and rates of economic growth, but that it is not the only determinant of these differences. The data, methodology, and conclusions have been criticized.

It would be interesting to undertake a formal study of the correlation between various intelligence measures of individual democratic voter preference - between Senators Obama and Clinton, not just their much discussed educational backgrounds. Put more bluntly, I for one, hope that we can demonstrate to the rest of the world that the US is on the way up the scale from an already shaky position of 26 rather than head towards the unfortunate lot at the bottom of the table which was recently lead by Equatorial Guinea. At the moment Senator Clinton seems to be making a significant contribution to helping the US move down the scale further.

The book may be controversial, but it certainly seems to provide adequate explanation for the current stunning economic growth rates of the various countries at the top of the table. Does the US have irreversibly ingrained and possibly irreparable flaws in its infrastructure? The World is watching. Perhaps we will be successful in finding a leader who will help us head the other way as a nation, otherwise the future doesn't look that bright.

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Small town USA
Posted by: carbon-based on Apr 14, 2008 6:13 AM   
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Obama, as much as I do like him, has about as much understanding of small town white America as Hillary does. Remember he's a black guy belonging to a black church with an eye on black issues.

Making lite of religion, gun ownership etc isnt the way to win hearts of middle America.

Hillary has him on this one - but still will not win the election. In the end Obama has what America needs, a new perspective and the right ideas. Please do not kill it by dumb comments!

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» Listen Carefully Posted by: LeaderofMen
» RE: Listen Carefully Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: gun-rights comment Posted by: Dboy
Look at what the conditions are:
Posted by: plaubel on Apr 14, 2008 6:15 AM   
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Go here:

http://travel.webshots.com/photo/2983450390086951885WApWYj

to see the economic devistation close up. This is my home town. The only option for anyone living there is to leave, as I have. The State democratic party has left the people remaining to fend for themselves. When the people ask "what has the democratic party done for me?" they do not have an answer.
And they are pissed.
Hunting is a big part of the culture and the idea that govment may want to take their guns resonates large. A small portion of the population may vote republican, but many times that simply stay home on election day.

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Let's Take the LOW Road
Posted by: LeaderofMen on Apr 14, 2008 6:29 AM   
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The facts are as such: PEOPLE ARE BITTER ABOUT LOSING THEIR JOBS.

The fact that Obama pointed it out is simple truth.

If 'blue collar workers' are taking the 'bitter' remark the wrong way, then THEY are the problem. After all, THEY are the ones who en masse are interpreting his remarks instead of hearing it for its face valuye.

But... I don't think they are the problem after all. I know now that Mark Penn's slimeball campaign methods coupled with a MSM that refuses to air (for the most part) the entirety of Obama's answer to this question are the REAL problem.

I'm hearing in newscast after newscast how the MSM wants to stir up the pot and try to produce an issue where NONE EXISTS. They're apparently looking for a juicy story where NONE EXISTS.

Stop listening to the MSM pundits. They are not providing the real story here. And Hillary's campaign is sinking lower and lower into the mud.

We'll end up with what we deserve in the WH if her campaign doesn't stop this sh*t right now.

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» "I'm not bitter, dammit!" Posted by: war_on_tara
» RE: "I'm not bitter, dammit!" Posted by: andabottleof_rum
DEFINITION OF BITTER
Posted by: JonA on Apr 14, 2008 6:34 AM   
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THE DEFINITION OF BITTER: 1 EXTREMELY HARSH OR RESENTFUL. 2 INTENSE OR SEVERE. 3 HAVING AN ACRID LINGERING TASTE.
What better word could Obama have used to describe our fustration and absolute disgust with our present government? The worst terrorist to kill and mame... is our own government. Put the shoe on the other foot and start reasoning.

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» RE: DEFINITION OF BITTER Posted by: mnascimento
» RE: DEFINITION OF BITTER Posted by: rneyman
» RE: DEFINITION OF BITTER Posted by: Squarehead
I don't think so...
Posted by: Schroeder on Apr 14, 2008 6:44 AM   
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" He points out that immigrant-baiting, gay-baiting, gun-baiting, and religious pandering have helped to destroy those towns and that countryside, that those being destroyed have been cynically enlisted by their very own destroyers to provide the votes that help accomplish the destruction."

Another Huffington Post anti-Hillary writer. I didn't take it the way Jane stated it above at all, nor did I hear her 'interpretation' in Obama's attempt at explaining his words. Obama does need to be careful. Keep in mind, he wasn't talking to people who may feel disenfranchised, he was talking, if I'm not mistaken, to the 'elitists'.

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» RE: I don't think so... Posted by: andabottleof_rum
For you Hillary simpletons missing his point . . .
Posted by: fluffmuffinmom on Apr 14, 2008 6:49 AM   
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Go back and read Obama's words in context from the transcript, then try to apply a little abstract thought to them so you understand what he was talking about.

When the economy tanks, church attendance, gun ownership & hate crimes increase. That's a fact. What Obama was saying is that the fears behind that phenomenom have been expertly exploited by the sons of bitches on the right to boost their own power trip.

Now your gal Hillary's doing the same thing. And why shouldn't she? It worked for Rove!

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» It's a fact Posted by: fluffmuffinmom
» "Hillary simpletons" Posted by: andabottleof_rum
» RE: "Hillary simpletons" Posted by: fluffmuffinmom
» RE: "Hillary simpletons" Posted by: andabottleof_rum
Obama forgot to mention me.
Posted by: lexicon on Apr 14, 2008 7:19 AM   
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I'm middle class, I have a job, I don't own a gun, my heart is a pantheon of religious acceptance and inclusion, and being from the 'elitist northeast', I have no concerns about being overrun by an unwashed horde of refugees from Ottawa or Montreal, fearing that they will take my job or date my daughter.

But I AM bitter.

I'm bitter.


I find myself, week in, week out...leaping prodigiously over serious economic hurdles...landing with light step and good momentum on the other side, only to find that I must again leap airborne, over YET ANOTHER economic hurdle.

Every SINGLE paycheck, I am faced with yet another economic roadblock. They do not cease.

Last week, my old car needs repairs. $1600. or so...this week, my OTHER slightly newer car needs some repairs...$900. The week before, I must pay the orthodontist for work on my children's teeth that my health insurance doesn't cover...$700, in two weeks, I must pay my property taxes or face a tax deed...$8000. After that I must re-stock the freezer...$600...After that I must pay my car insurance...$950...After that I must buy a tank of heating oil...$1100 after that I must....


There isn't a single day out of the year, that SOMEONE isn't holding out their hand and expecting me to pay, and pay much more dearly than yesterday.

And I lead a pretty simple life. And I get paid pretty well..but pretty well seems to be what you need to just get by.

Oh, I don't have to worry about paying for that vacation trip...you know, the one that I'm not going to be taking.

yes, I'm bitter.

I don't want to be rich. I want to feel that I am, only just once in a while, NOT on the brink.


bitter. that's me.


lexicon.

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» yes, thank you, VZEQICVA Posted by: lexicon
» LOL Posted by: gellero1
Yes
Posted by: dayenta on Apr 14, 2008 7:24 AM   
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More fine writing from a fine writer.

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