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America's New Racial Reality: White Minority Status
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Combining the statesman's calm cadences with the reverend's passion, Obama delivered what was arguably the crispest, most important delineation of U.S. race relations by a presidential candidate since Abraham Lincoln gave his House Divided speech.
In response to the ongoing racial pyrotechnics seen most recently in the controversies surrounding Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's former pastor whose racial denunciations from his Chicago pulpit have drawn criticism, and Clinton-backer Geraldine Ferraro who sparked controversy after saying, "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position," Obama used his abundant rhetorical gifts to advance the cause of race idealism. His speech tried to weaken the relentless pull of our racial past on our electoral present by pointing to a post-racial future.
"This nation is more than the sum of its parts," he declared before a very racially mixed crowd of supporters sitting and swooning in Philadelphia's National Constitution Center. "We may have different stories, but we hold common hopes." The elevated responses in the Constitution Center seemed to simulate the paintings of children and adults of various ethnicities dancing in a circle as they rise from the ground.
In stark contrast to Obama's strive-for-higher-ground idealism is the boots-on-the-ground march of the pre-eminent practitioners of racial realpolitik: the Clinton backers of Washington's Democratic Leadership Council (DLC).
Caught between the current reality of an electorate that's still mostly white and a primary process that reflects stunning demographic shifts, the racial politics of the Clinton supporters in the DLC reflect a strategic decision to consolidate their white base. Viewed from this vantage point, the DLC's re-engineered appeals to white racial solidarity preview the new politics of the white minority era that looms on the racial horizon.
More than any other political machine in this very tense political moment, politicians affiliated with the DLC have developed policies and made statements that reconfigure racial politics beyond the Southern Strategy -- appeals to white voter fear and anxieties with anti-black policy proposals that successfully transformed the once Democratic-leaning South into a Republican stronghold -- that still defines much of the Republican racial realpolitik. DLC affiliates have more or less formed a beeline to make racial comments appealing to white voters as an unprecedented racial reality has come upon America: white minority status.
DLC operatives seem to recognize how quickly the political process is moving past the black-white racial politics towards a Sunbelt strategy targeting a more diverse and demographically different country, increasingly concentrated in the sunny southern states stretching from the Atlantic to the Pacific. Like Obama, the DLC recognizes and anticipates the inevitable domination of the electoral college by Texas, Florida, California and other states heavily populated by Latinos and Asians.
Among the most recent comments and policy proposals by DLC affiliates reflecting the Sunbelt strategy are: the Geraldine Ferraro statement; the strong support for the anti-immigrant policies of the very punitive, anti-immigrant STRIVE Act by Rahm Emmanuel and James Carville, an enforcement-heavy immigration reform proposal which many Congressional Hispanic Caucus members have said will increase racial profiling; the anti-immigrant ads used by DLC Chair Harold Ford during his Senatorial bid in Tennessee; DLC stalwart Bob Kerrey's claim that Obama attended a "secular madrassa"; the numerous racially-charged comments made by former DLC leader Bill Clinton, and, of course, Hillary Clinton in the course of her own campaign.
These most recent statements and policy proposals by DLC affiliates reflect the DLC's insights into the post-Southern Strategy, post-Dixiecrat moment. This vision was developed by several of the mostly southern founders of the DLC who, in their zeal to combat the GOP successes with white voters through the Southern Strategy, rejected the affirmative action and other "identity politics" in the Democratic party to return to the old white identity politics.
Asked about the statements by Ferraro and other DLC affiliates, DLC's press secretary, Alice McKeon, declined to make a statement. Asked if Ferraro was affiliated with her organization, McKeon answered, "I'm not prepared to say anything about that right now."
Longtime DLC critic, and editor of the Black Agenda Report, Bruce Dixon, sees in the ratcheting up of racial politics in this primary season the DLC's aspirations to make Democrats more competitive against the GOP. "The historic position of the DLC is that they want to compete for Republican voters and corporate dollars," said Dixon. "Their support for the SAVE Act, the racial attacks on Obama are rooted in this desire."
Dixon has for many years also questioned the relationship between the racial statements and policy proposals of DLC members and the major funding it receives from corporations and from foundations like the Bradley Foundation, a philanthropic organization which gave the Progressive Policy Institute, the DLC's think tank, over $200,000. Bradley Foundation also has a long history of giving money to organizations and individuals dedicated to destroying civil rights like Charles Murray, author or the controversial Bell Curve who still supports thoroughly baseless racial ideas like the belief that there's a correlation between race and intellectual capabilities. "The Clintons, Rahm Emanuel and the DLC have to say these (racial) things because their corporate sponsors need a segmented and divided workforce," said Dixon. "They can't possibly do anything else."
Yet, given the chronic inflexibility of politicians of all stripes to articulate the real problems of race in the United States, Obama's race idealism may, in fact, mark the beginning of, as he promised, real change. Charles Murray himself noted this on the National Review website after Obama's speech. "As far as I'm concerned, it is just plain flat out brilliant -- rhetorically, but also in capturing a lot of nuance about race in America," he wrote. "It is so far above the standard we're used to from our politicians."
Race idealism, who knows, may very well carry the day beyond the primaries and the general election.
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Posted by: talkville on Mar 22, 2008 2:50 AM
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Anyone with any discernment at all of the historical development of views, cultural, 'racialist' and sociological, of Great Britain, Europe and the USA since the 18th century cannot really be surprised at the current manifestations of continuously albeit below-the-surface thematics that ALWAYS has been present in our politics, economics, and culture. Reagan and Thatcher made use of this when launching the onslaught we currently find ourselves in; it's always oblique and 'coded' but it's always there.
It's an unfortunate fact that still today a cult of 'supremacy', whether biological or cultural or both together, still remains and will for a while yet to come. Stated or un-stated it walks together with us as we move ahead as it has before (even since Plato's day!). Obama's call to an effort to elevate and develop these discussions and dialog onto higher grounds holds great promise, for actual progress, for HUMAN development.
Any political organization which makes cynical use of these issues with a view towards Winning rather than a view towards Truth ought not to be supported. We need to remember a valuable human capacity in these days of virtue-mongering: Integrity.
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Posted by: war_on_tara on Mar 22, 2008 4:52 AM
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Create Secure Borders
Obama wants to preserve the integrity of our borders. He supports additional personnel, infrastructure and technology on the border and at our ports of entry.
Improve Our Immigration System
Obama believes we must fix the dysfunctional immigration bureaucracy and increase the number of legal immigrants to keep families together and meet the demand for jobs that employers cannot fill.
Remove Incentives to Enter Illegally
Obama will remove incentives to enter the country illegally by cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants.
Bring People Out of the Shadows
Obama supports a system that allows undocumented immigrants who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, and go to the back of the line for the opportunity to become citizens.
Work with Mexico
Obama believes we need to do more to promote economic development in Mexico to decrease illegal immigration.
Barack Obama's Record
Crack Down on Employers: Obama championed a proposal to create a system so employers can verify that their employees are legally eligible to work in the U.S.
Fix the Bureaucracy: Obama joined Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) [Note: Guiterrez is the co-author of the STRIVE Act that Lovato objects to in this article!] to introduce the Citizenship Promotion Act to ensure that immigration application fees are both reasonable and fair. Obama also introduced legislation that passed the Senate to improve the speed and accuracy of FBI background checks.
Respect Families: Obama introduced amendments to put greater emphasis on keeping immigrant families together.
- barackobama.com
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Posted by: ukeman on Mar 22, 2008 4:54 AM
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Those hords who prefer to scurry her way than consider a too broadly based Obama are running from their fears because well itʻs so darn easy apparently.... In reality, they donʻt want to accept the cure; honest dialogue to deeper understanding.
As a "wheatier" dem, I wouldnʻt feel right about that; further repulsing me from supporting Hillary.
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Posted by: Balanz on Mar 22, 2008 5:43 AM
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I agree with much stated in the article, however repeating this too often stated concept of "white" minority status in the US sounds an awful lot like fear mongering in and of itself. Presented here, it adds weight to "white" supremacists rallying cries.
Besides in a global view, "white" minority status hasn't hurt "white" folks too much over the last 500 years!
PS--When it becomes convenient the American creation of "hispanic" will be abandoned to segement that group along national origin lines, thus limiting their ethnic origin block.
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Posted by: The Big Raven on Mar 22, 2008 6:19 AM
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what a pile of horseshit while all along the white population is still in control of most things in the same old racist american way .
Another one of thoose planted stories just to make you hold your man purses a little closer. Fools the lot of us.
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Posted by: billwald on Mar 22, 2008 9:05 AM
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By the way,
"Charles Murray, author or the controversial Bell Curve who still supports thoroughly baseless racial ideas like the belief that there's a correlation between race and intellectual capabilities."
indicates someone who never read the book and someone who doesn't understand the difference between "race" and "breed" i.e. there is only one "race" of dog (canine) but no one would claim equality of breeds.
The book demonstrates that IQ, whatever it measures, is indicative of success in a civilized culture by most standards such as education, income, arrest record, stability of marriage . . . .
Murray's error is that IQ is probably a measure of culture, not race (breed). When mass IQ tests were first given we were strictly segregated and, except for jazz musicians, there was no advantage for a white person to pass as black. Since 1964 "black" has become a self-designation. For example, when the City of Seattle began to promote on the basis of race several of my previously white co-workers became something else.
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Posted by: PJAW on Mar 22, 2008 9:35 AM
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Or Tiger woods, who, as a child, coined the desciption of "Caublinasian" for himself, to include the "Black" and "Indian" blood of his father as well as the "Caucasion" and "Asian" blood of his mother. (I always found that pretty creative on his part.) Tiger too, is most often referred to as "Black".
Whatever. I've never really understood this concept of "races" within the human family as any kind of predicter of anything. Our differences are all cultural as far as I can tell. I think the various colors and pyhsical traits we exhibit make us visually more interesting, but the other differences we experience of one another are all self-made.
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Posted by: wobblies on Mar 22, 2008 10:05 AM
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God Speed,
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Posted by: smendler on Mar 22, 2008 2:18 PM
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The study of "genetic genealogy" is (hopefully) going to lead to a higher appreciation of the diversity that each one of us contains, and that all of us share in. I can only imagine the impact that such knowledge might have on concepts of "racial identity" in the future, but I would hope that it leads to a wholesale rejection of the notion of any ethnic group as even being coherent, much less superior to any other ethnic group....
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Posted by: soldier of fortune on Mar 22, 2008 4:05 PM
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The church has white members, it is not black separatist. Black liberation theology does not teach superiority but similar to feminist women-only meetings is about preserving the minority experience in an oppressed atmosphere.
Reverend Wright was a Marine and navy medic along with receiving 3 Presidential Commendations from President Lyndon B. Johnson. I very much doubt he hates his country.
If you want to see the expanded version of those infamous sermons, then check out this site.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/22/24048/7386/38/482022
If this changes your view of Jeremiah Wright then pass it on and maybe we won't keep seeing a lie shown through sound bites about who he is. I am not saying that he is a saint but he certainly ain't that 30 second clip saying "GD America".
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Posted by: hole11 on Mar 23, 2008 6:55 AM
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White women some would say can't write good books. I would say that they are indecisive and their brains are hard wired to hesitate too much. What kept Clinton from leaving her husband? I don't have to explain that I am not an expert but I do see some faults and those outweigh any good qualities she might have.
McCain as far as I am concerned let Neil Bush profit from the Savings and Loan crisis and now he is getting paid back for his loyalty. I don't care how many years he spent in the Hanoi Hilton but as soon as my wallet is affected by his actions or inactions then I am surprised both of his arms are not broken.
I will stick with Ralph Nader if I can't vote for Ron Paul. The other candidates think they can get away with anything.
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» Oppenheimer, DeBeers and Zionism
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Posted by: talkville on Mar 22, 2008 2:50 AM
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Anyone with any discernment at all of the historical development of views, cultural, 'racialist' and sociological, of Great Britain, Europe and the USA since the 18th century cannot really be surprised at the current manifestations of continuously albeit below-the-surface thematics that ALWAYS has been present in our politics, economics, and culture. Reagan and Thatcher made use of this when launching the onslaught we currently find ourselves in; it's always oblique and 'coded' but it's always there.
It's an unfortunate fact that still today a cult of 'supremacy', whether biological or cultural or both together, still remains and will for a while yet to come. Stated or un-stated it walks together with us as we move ahead as it has before (even since Plato's day!). Obama's call to an effort to elevate and develop these discussions and dialog onto higher grounds holds great promise, for actual progress, for HUMAN development.
Any political organization which makes cynical use of these issues with a view towards Winning rather than a view towards Truth ought not to be supported. We need to remember a valuable human capacity in these days of virtue-mongering: Integrity.
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Posted by: war_on_tara on Mar 22, 2008 4:52 AM
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Create Secure Borders
Obama wants to preserve the integrity of our borders. He supports additional personnel, infrastructure and technology on the border and at our ports of entry.
Improve Our Immigration System
Obama believes we must fix the dysfunctional immigration bureaucracy and increase the number of legal immigrants to keep families together and meet the demand for jobs that employers cannot fill.
Remove Incentives to Enter Illegally
Obama will remove incentives to enter the country illegally by cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants.
Bring People Out of the Shadows
Obama supports a system that allows undocumented immigrants who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, and go to the back of the line for the opportunity to become citizens.
Work with Mexico
Obama believes we need to do more to promote economic development in Mexico to decrease illegal immigration.
Barack Obama's Record
Crack Down on Employers: Obama championed a proposal to create a system so employers can verify that their employees are legally eligible to work in the U.S.
Fix the Bureaucracy: Obama joined Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) [Note: Guiterrez is the co-author of the STRIVE Act that Lovato objects to in this article!] to introduce the Citizenship Promotion Act to ensure that immigration application fees are both reasonable and fair. Obama also introduced legislation that passed the Senate to improve the speed and accuracy of FBI background checks.
Respect Families: Obama introduced amendments to put greater emphasis on keeping immigrant families together.
- barackobama.com
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Posted by: ukeman on Mar 22, 2008 4:54 AM
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Those hords who prefer to scurry her way than consider a too broadly based Obama are running from their fears because well itʻs so darn easy apparently.... In reality, they donʻt want to accept the cure; honest dialogue to deeper understanding.
As a "wheatier" dem, I wouldnʻt feel right about that; further repulsing me from supporting Hillary.
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» So why did she win Calif. & Texas again?
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» Might it make sense if the majority of "hispanics" are "white"?
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» Seems to me.....
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Posted by: Balanz on Mar 22, 2008 5:43 AM
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I agree with much stated in the article, however repeating this too often stated concept of "white" minority status in the US sounds an awful lot like fear mongering in and of itself. Presented here, it adds weight to "white" supremacists rallying cries.
Besides in a global view, "white" minority status hasn't hurt "white" folks too much over the last 500 years!
PS--When it becomes convenient the American creation of "hispanic" will be abandoned to segement that group along national origin lines, thus limiting their ethnic origin block.
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» READ THE NAMES
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Posted by: The Big Raven on Mar 22, 2008 6:19 AM
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what a pile of horseshit while all along the white population is still in control of most things in the same old racist american way .
Another one of thoose planted stories just to make you hold your man purses a little closer. Fools the lot of us.
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» RE: america the ugly bitch. What a dumb statement especially because most Americans support Obama.
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Posted by: dave16 on Mar 22, 2008 7:24 AM
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Posted by: Southern Gal on Mar 22, 2008 8:29 AM
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Posted by: billwald on Mar 22, 2008 9:05 AM
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By the way,
"Charles Murray, author or the controversial Bell Curve who still supports thoroughly baseless racial ideas like the belief that there's a correlation between race and intellectual capabilities."
indicates someone who never read the book and someone who doesn't understand the difference between "race" and "breed" i.e. there is only one "race" of dog (canine) but no one would claim equality of breeds.
The book demonstrates that IQ, whatever it measures, is indicative of success in a civilized culture by most standards such as education, income, arrest record, stability of marriage . . . .
Murray's error is that IQ is probably a measure of culture, not race (breed). When mass IQ tests were first given we were strictly segregated and, except for jazz musicians, there was no advantage for a white person to pass as black. Since 1964 "black" has become a self-designation. For example, when the City of Seattle began to promote on the basis of race several of my previously white co-workers became something else.
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Posted by: PJAW on Mar 22, 2008 9:35 AM
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Or Tiger woods, who, as a child, coined the desciption of "Caublinasian" for himself, to include the "Black" and "Indian" blood of his father as well as the "Caucasion" and "Asian" blood of his mother. (I always found that pretty creative on his part.) Tiger too, is most often referred to as "Black".
Whatever. I've never really understood this concept of "races" within the human family as any kind of predicter of anything. Our differences are all cultural as far as I can tell. I think the various colors and pyhsical traits we exhibit make us visually more interesting, but the other differences we experience of one another are all self-made.
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» more miscegenation, quick!!
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» Read Plessy v Ferguson
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Posted by: wobblies on Mar 22, 2008 10:05 AM
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God Speed,
David
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Posted by: smendler on Mar 22, 2008 2:18 PM
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The study of "genetic genealogy" is (hopefully) going to lead to a higher appreciation of the diversity that each one of us contains, and that all of us share in. I can only imagine the impact that such knowledge might have on concepts of "racial identity" in the future, but I would hope that it leads to a wholesale rejection of the notion of any ethnic group as even being coherent, much less superior to any other ethnic group....
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Posted by: soldier of fortune on Mar 22, 2008 4:05 PM
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The church has white members, it is not black separatist. Black liberation theology does not teach superiority but similar to feminist women-only meetings is about preserving the minority experience in an oppressed atmosphere.
Reverend Wright was a Marine and navy medic along with receiving 3 Presidential Commendations from President Lyndon B. Johnson. I very much doubt he hates his country.
If you want to see the expanded version of those infamous sermons, then check out this site.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/22/24048/7386/38/482022
If this changes your view of Jeremiah Wright then pass it on and maybe we won't keep seeing a lie shown through sound bites about who he is. I am not saying that he is a saint but he certainly ain't that 30 second clip saying "GD America".
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» RE: everend Wright's Character Assassination in the Media
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Posted by: EricR11 on Mar 22, 2008 8:50 PM
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Posted by: hole11 on Mar 23, 2008 6:55 AM
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White women some would say can't write good books. I would say that they are indecisive and their brains are hard wired to hesitate too much. What kept Clinton from leaving her husband? I don't have to explain that I am not an expert but I do see some faults and those outweigh any good qualities she might have.
McCain as far as I am concerned let Neil Bush profit from the Savings and Loan crisis and now he is getting paid back for his loyalty. I don't care how many years he spent in the Hanoi Hilton but as soon as my wallet is affected by his actions or inactions then I am surprised both of his arms are not broken.
I will stick with Ralph Nader if I can't vote for Ron Paul. The other candidates think they can get away with anything.
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Posted by: Joe on Mar 23, 2008 3:15 PM
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» exactly.
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