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Barack Obama's Momentum Grows
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With 97 percent of precincts reporting, representing more than a million voters, Obama had 57 percent compared to 41 percent for Clinton. More notable than that solid margin of victory, which came after both candidates campaigned hard in Wisconsin, was the increasingly broad support that Obama appears to be generating.
According to exit polls, Obama won: all age groups under 65; white voters under age 60; all education levels; all income levels; all regions of the state -- rural, suburban and urban; and among Democrats, Republicans and Independents. Obama also won among voters who picked a candidate in the past week and among union members and union households, the exit poll data said. And he tied Clinton among women.
Wisconsin was the ninth contest Obama has won in a row. The exit polling also showed his support has been growing in key segments of the electorate since 2008's first primaries and caucuses. In New Hampshire, for example, Obama won 38 percent of the vote among white men. In Wisconsin, he won 62 percent. In New Hampshire, he won a third of voters aged 50 to 60, while in Wisconsin he won more than half that group. And among people earning $30,000 to $50,000 a year, Obama also went from winning a third of those voters in New Hampshire to more than half in Wisconsin.
While pollsters and pundits may quibble over comparisons between these states, what is unmistakable is Wisconsin has confirmed the new dynamics of the Democratic contest. Obama is indeed the front runner, gaining not just more delegates than Clinton but also attracting a growing cross-section of the party's base. In short, it appears that Democrats -- and Independents -- are coalescing around his candidacy.
According to CNN, Obama now has 1,294 delegates, compared to 1,234 delegates for Clinton. In Wisconsin, 92 delegates were at stake. Hawaii also held a Democratic caucus on Tuesday, which Obama overwhelmingly won with 76 percent of the vote compared to 24 percent for Clinton. Twenty-nine delegates are at stake in that contest, whose results were announced early Wednesday. The next primaries are on March 4, when four states, including Texas and Ohio, vote.
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"We just heard we won tonight in Wisconsin," Obama said, speaking at a rally in Houston, Texas, where after thanking Wisconsin voters, he turned his attention to the state with the largest block of delegates left in the Democratic nominating contest. "But we know this, Houston, the change we seek is still months and miles away, and we need the good people of Texas to help us get there."
"Understand this Houston, as wonderful as this gathering is," he continued, "what we are trying to do here is not easy, and it will not happen overnight. It is going to take more than big rallies. It will require more than rousing speeches. It will also require more than policy papers and positions and websites. It is going to require something more, because the problems that we face in America today is not the lack of good ideas, it is that Washington has become a place where good ideas go to die."
Clinton, meanwhile, was in Youngstown, Ohio, where she did not mention the Wisconsin results in her rally.
"Tonight, I want to talk to you about the choice you have in this election and why that choice matters," Clinton said, her voice slightly hoarse. "It is about picking a president who relies not just on words, but on work -- on hard work to get America back to work. That's our goal.
"When I think about what we are really comparing in this election, we can't just have speeches," she continued, referring to Obama's oratory. "We've got to have solutions. And we need those solutions for America ... because while words matter, the best words in the world are not enough unless you match them with action."
Next stop, Texas and Ohio
The next primaries are on March 4, when Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island and Vermont vote. The Clinton campaign has said it must win in Texas and Ohio to secure the nomination and has been focusing on those states with 228 and 161 delegates, respectively.
Obama's Wisconsin victory suggests new hurdles for Clinton, especially in Ohio. That state's demographics and issues are similar to Wisconsin, where the economy and jobs are among the top issues raised by voters. Both states have sizeable working-class and union households, although Wisconsin historically has been more of a maverick state with supporting populists and political outsiders.
Still, Ohio's largest city, Cleveland, is not just the state's largest Democratic stronghold, but also has a large African-American population, a block that has supported Obama in other states. The biggest unknown about the Cleveland vote is whether the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections will have successfully trained poll workers in a new paper ballot system to prevent voting day bottlenecks that could disenfranchise thousands of voters -- as has been the case in several recent elections in the city.
Beyond the mechanics of the Ohio vote, it appears that voters in the remaining primary and caucus states will have a few weeks to take yet another look at the candidates to determine which candidate and leadership style can beat Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., the likely Republican nominee: Obama's promise of a new, post-partisan White House, or Clinton's promise of experienced leadership from day one in office.
For Clinton to win, she must convince women, the middle-class and working people that she is the candidate who can succeed in the fall and deliver on the promise of a government that helps solve their problems. For Obama, he needs to continue to make a case for why he would be a better choice than Clinton, as well as deflect new criticism from McCain, who on Tuesday, speaking of his lofty rhetoric, said, "Americans are not deceived by an eloquent but empty call for change."
And Obama must be careful not to stumble. As candidates approach winning their party's nomination, they often become more cautious as press and public scrutiny increases. But disclosures this week that Obama used -- some say plagiarized -- speech lines from Democratic Gov. Deval Patrick of Massachusetts, did not appear to deter Wisconsin voters.
Still, it would be realistic to expect the Clinton campaign to use everything in its political arsenal against Obama before the Ohio and Texas primaries on March 4. If Clinton is to win the Democratic nomination, she must carry those states.
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Posted by: HeKnew on Feb 20, 2008 12:07 AM
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But I'd never let him borrow my car.
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Posted by: foreverhope on Feb 20, 2008 3:06 AM
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Early votes in Harris County TX, Bushes home city of Houston, 12,000 people have cast a vote ALREADY, 9,400 ARE NEW DEMS.
Last year's primary election in Harris County only 1300 people voted.
Even better, Harris County is tradionally republican!
OBAMA '08
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Posted by: foreverhope on Feb 20, 2008 3:06 AM
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Early votes in Harris County TX, Bushes home city of Houston, 12,000 people have cast a vote ALREADY, 9,400 ARE NEW DEMS.
Last year's primary election in Harris County only 1300 people voted.
Even better, Harris County is tradionally republican!
OBAMA '08
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Posted by: robchapman on Feb 20, 2008 4:46 AM
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The Republican National Committee (RNC) web-site recently displayed a monopoly money type bill with Obama's picture on it.
The message from the GOP is that Obama is inexperienced and will raise taxes to onerous levels and mismanage the economy.
The GOP suggest in various ways that voters "cost out" the magnitude of universal health insurance, the continuation of a robust social security system, Green Collar job development, the improvement of our educational and any other proposals offered by the Democrats.
The Republicans state that the cost of these initiatives will bust the budget, distort the economy and set America into an uncontrollable inflationary spiral.
It may be more fun to harrass the Clinonistas and mock out Hillary Clinton as her ship slowly sinks, but how productive is it?
It is vital that Democrats use this time to accentuate the positive aspects of their message.
Democrats must continuer to portray the initiatives in Universal Health Care, Robust Social Security, Green Collar job development and Improved Education and our other proposals as investments in America's future which will increase our prosperity and well being of all our citizens.
Clearly the primary voters are responding positively to the Democratic message and are participating in a 2 to 1 majority over the Republicans.
But the GOP have already begun focussing their attention on the general election campaign.
Are the Democrats going to squander the palpable advantages that our candidates have built up through intra-party bickering and haggling over insubstantial issues.
Each voter is entitled to cast his or her vote according the dictates of conscience, interest and judgement. Hopefully, voters will make these decisions based on their perceptions of who will make the better President for America and for their respective communities.
Shame on the commentators and the pundits for all their gossip and scandalizing over the trivial horse race stories.
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» Hey you're right on he's BaRhetoric Obama!
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» Don't worry about Hillsterical Clintonite wonks
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Posted by: robchapman on Feb 20, 2008 5:12 AM
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Think for a moment about the sources of potential energy and creativity that an Obama Administration will unleash.
Obama:
* community orgainizer,
* constitutional law professor,
* successful legislator with a knack for building bipartisan coalitions,
* immensely gifted political leader who came from nowhere and won the nomination of the world's oldest, largest and most successful political party.
The difference between McCain and Obama are stark.
The difference between McCain and Obama are overwhelmingly in OBAMA's favor.
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» Professor Obama was a listener, students say
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» anyone deriding Prof. Obama for his "senior lecturer" title is a fool
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Posted by: davescott on Feb 20, 2008 5:28 AM
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Feb 20, 2008 6:24 AM
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1) serve a little time on the WalMart board of directors
2) some $50,000 speeches to the medical and drug industry
3) putting in a plug now and then for the Iraq war
4) Speaking to the Chamber of Commerce or the National Association of Manufacturers about the wonders of Globalization and NAFTA
5) Keeping an eye on Bill, and stopping him from copping a feel of that pretty young aide whenever he has a chance.
anyone else care to add their ideas to Hillary's "to do" list in case she has to chuck the opportunity to become pres?
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Posted by: keefus55 on Feb 20, 2008 6:25 AM
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It would appear that the "wheels started coming off the Clinton bus" even before she lost the Iowa caucuses and barely eeked out a virtual tie with Mr. Obama in New Hampshire.
That's because her negative approval ratings have always been high…upwards of 50 percent. My hunch is that most Democrats saw no other "electable" candidate in the field, so they (grudgingly) were resigned to Hillary's nomination and had fingers crossed that she could beat whomever the Republicans coughed up to run against her.
It's also become increasingly evident that Mrs. Clinton's campaign was never intended to be a 50 state campaign. She truly believed she'd have the nomination all sewn up by Super Tuesday. For, why else would she have blown through some $130 Million in campaign funds (while staying in plush accommodations along the way in the earlier contests) only to now be forced into borrowing money from herself just to keep her campaign bus filled with gas?
What's more, when she was forced to re-assure potential voters just before the Potomac primaries that there would be "no new scandals" caused by her philandering husband and former President, that comment did absolutely nothing but force Democrats into thinking, "Do we REALLY want a known source of "bimbo eruptions" and other assorted embarrassing scandals (a.k.a "Whitewater") once again living in the White House for the Republicans to ruthlessly attack?"
In addition, the proportional nature of the Democratic primary rules (vice the Republican's predominantly "winner take all" approach) has also favored Mr. Obama, and he is clearly using those rules to his advantage. The longer it takes to wrap up the Democratic nomination, the more popular he seems to become.
As a result, the Democratic campaign for President has now turned into a classic "tortoise and hair" race, with Mr. Obama obviously content to plod along...garnering small numbers of delegates here and there from the (mostly smaller) states Mrs. Clinton felt were well beneath her dignity to even campaign in.
The fact that Mr. Obama HAS elected to campaign in these smaller states has since fired up traditionally "sleepy" electorates that have most often been ignored by other candidates...including Mrs. Clinton. The enthusiasm (and votes) coming out of these smaller states are now yielding delegate counts that are, collectively, starting to add up into "real numbers". And they are all favoring Mr. Obama.
There is no doubt that President and Mrs. Clinton's arrogant (and now clearly mistaken) belief in the inevitability of Mrs. Clinton's "coronation" as President have helped lead to her downfall. Both she and her husband clearly over-estimated her (and his) lingering popularity with Democrats. And, judging from the hypothetical match-ups between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. McCain, they also overestimated her popularity with the rest of the country as well.
Now that mainstream Democrats have gotten a really good look at her (and yet another one at him) "up close and personal-like", many of the lingering fears and long-suppressed feelings of disapproval among many Democrats for BOTH of the Clintons are now coming to the fore, particularly now that many of those same Democrats firmly believe they have an electable alternative.
All of which leads me to the inevitable conclusion that the REAL problem with Mrs. Clinton is not so much her campaign or her campaign managers…. it's just her.
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Posted by: Andie927 on Feb 20, 2008 6:40 AM
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DON'T LOOK AT THE ISSUES!!Now, now, follow the left hand, don't look at the right hand!
The Republican's are going to LET Obama win!! Then when he fails, (like Duval in Mass.) they get to put Jeb Bush in the White House in 2012!
Why do YOU think so many Republicans are voting for Obama? He's PRO-Wall Street, Pro-Corporate self-regulation, PRO-Bush's Private Retirement Accounts! & the icing on the cake, PRO-Nuclear Power, and Big Coal!!
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» Geesh, I am so tired of this nonsense
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Posted by: solrev on Feb 20, 2008 8:02 AM
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This is why Texas is the key for Obama. In Texas independents need not apply to vote in the democratic primary. Obama must turn the female and Latino vote in Texas to beat Clinton. If this happens the old demon party masters, will have to abandon one of theirs, and Clinton will withdraw to save her remaining war chest for another day. If Obama can not pull the win in Texas, the demon party masters may push him to make a deal. I hope Obama hangs tuff because Clinton can not win without the Obama independents and newbees. It is time to dump the stump speeches and move on to the next vote that counts the electoral vote.
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Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on Feb 20, 2008 8:08 AM
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Obama is no better though. He is already pulling a Clintonian triangulation by talking about his admiration for Reagan, and bitching about the excesses of 60's and 70's.
Further Obama appears to be appealing to the white voters with his 'tough love' speeches to black audiences.
Either way, there won't be any progressive change with Obama/Hillary in the White House.
McCain will simply continue the neocon policy of Bush admin.
In the end, the only reason to vote for either Obama or Hillary is that we might have a chance of putting one or more center/center-left justices on the SC bench.
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Posted by: beckidahl on Feb 20, 2008 8:10 AM
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If the situation were reversed and Obama had just lost 10 straight primaries, would the media even be interviewing Obama campaign spokespeople every hour and carrying his NON-concession speech on major cable news? I seriously doubt it. He would have been counted out and declared dead long before Wisconsin.
Think about it!!
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Posted by: jim_altman on Feb 20, 2008 8:19 AM
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Posted by: foreverhope on Feb 20, 2008 8:30 AM
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I just figured out what it is about Obama! you want to know what the 'magic' is?
This man is brilliant and shines in so many ways, yes he is charismatic, no doubt, but why?
He has a BURNING DESIRE, a FIRE IN HIS BELLY! That is why his message for change is SO POWERFUL.
THAT is WHY his message is compelling and that is why people across the country are responding and pouring into convention centers across this country just to hear him.
WE, this country, want change just as badly as Barack wants change and he is putting it into words for all of us.
It is really just that simple, and he won't be able to do it alone. We need to sweep as many dem seats into Congress and the Senate as we can, this momentum and enthusiasim is REAL powerful stuff!
YES WE CAN, AND WE MUST, TAKE BACK THIS COUNTRY!
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OBAMA!
This just keeps getting better and better and better and better, I am loving it!
You know, for skeptics of this amazing grassroots movement, so many endlessly complain that the biggest problem with our democratic process is not enough people pay attention, get involved or even vote, ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE.
Barack is is the one turning that around, and also SOMEHOW helping this country come together in the first REAL way progressives have EVER seen.
Please at least give Obama credit for the energy and momentum he is bringing to our democratic process. This is pretty amazing stuff by anyone's standards and it WILL work in our favor. OF COURSE WE MUST HOLD OBAMA RESPONSIBLE once elected but we will have to be there helping him get it done too.
We NEED to get behind this SPLENDID democratic candidate A.S.A.P.
Look, if Hillary were not a Clinton, not the ex First Lady, do you believe this would really be happening? At this point any respectable or responsible challenger would see the writing on the wall and gracefull congratulate Barack and bow out, EVEN ENDORSE HIM! LET THE DEMS GET ON WITH THE GENERAL.
Can anyone ignore or minimize all these wonderful excited new voters EAGER to participate? or throw all this energy away? Talk about cutting off a nose to spite the face.
At the VERY LEAST give Obama the credit ANYONE ELSE SHOULD receive for inspiring SO MANY NEW VOTERS AND YOUNG VOTERS INTO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
TEN WINS IN A ROW, GO OBAMA!
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Posted by: aonghus36 on Feb 20, 2008 8:58 AM
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the mention of Hawaii?
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Feb 20, 2008 10:04 AM
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This country is so fu*ked-up that I truly fear another Bobby Kennedy thing or even a Chile 9-11-73. I have personally heard from the rabid-right crowd examples of the fury that the mere possiblity of Obama's election arouses in certain people. Some angry young white male, schooled in guns and Bill O'Reilley, filled with Wacko Jesus philosophy and enraged at anything that is even slightly Muslim--can such a possibility be dismissed outright?
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Posted by: Kym525 on Feb 21, 2008 2:29 PM
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Obama cannot run this country alone and unlike Bush, isn't interested in doing so. Activism and volunteering shouldn't come to an end if he gets into the White House (or even if he doesn't).
The Obama campaign has shown that people still matter and that armed with the FACTS, rather than spin, we are more than capable of choosing the candidate who understands the issues that effect ALL Americans. That's one reason I think he doesn't spend a lot of time talking himself up. If you want to know his stand on an issue, go to his website and do the homework necessary. Everything you need to know is there and it's all attributed. When was the last time any politician was that open with their record?
Obama treats his constituency like intelligent and thoughtful people who have been separated too long by right-wing distortions and lies. He wants us to be active in changing the tenor of politics and not to sit on our butts complaining. I for one am ready.
By the way, leave Michelle Obama alone!!! Unless you were in her head, you cannot possibly know what she meant by her statement. However, having just watched a History Channel documentary on black soldiers in WWII, seven of whom were never awarded the Medal of Honor until 1991 (five awarded posthumously), I can totally understand where she might have been coming from. What a grave injustice. Complain about THAT, why don't you?
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Posted by: SkeeterVT1 on Feb 23, 2008 7:18 AM
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But according to new polls in both states, Clinton's "firewalls" are already crumbling.
More major labor unions are backing Obama -- which could have a big effect on how blue-collar voters cast their ballots in the Buckeye State.
Texas is the worst state in the Union in terms of Latino voter turnout -- primarily because up to 30 percent of Latinos in Texas are non-citizen immigrants who cannot vote and Texas is Tom DeLay's home state. How can you possibly forget DeLay's voter-suppression tactics against Latinos in the late '90s and early '00s that resulted in the GOP takeover of both the Lone Star State's congressional delegation and its state legislature?
Then, there's the role of independents -- who clearly favor Obama.
Among independents, Obama is leading Clinton by 14 percentage points in Ohio and by 13 in Texas, according to a Washington Post-ABC News telephone poll taken Feb. 16-20.
And the settling of the GOP race in John McCain's favor is an enticement for self-styled "Obamicans" -- Obama-leaning moderate Republicans -- to come out for the Democratic election that still matters.
Moreover, both states let people vote early. Obama, fresh from his Wisconsin victory on Tuesday, didn't wait for the dust to settle before exhorting Texans to vote right away. "I don't want you to wait until March 4," he said. Clinton, with a head start in campaigning in Texas, also appealed for an early lock on votes.
In the 22 contested Democratic primaries so far, independents made up 22 percent of the vote and they supported Obama by an overwhelming margin of 64 percent to 33 percent. Crossover Republicans, a far smaller percentage in the Democratic primaries, backed him 55-33.
Yet Obama has even the party's left flank covered: a 52-44 advantage over the New York senator among those who consider themselves very liberal.
Pennsylvania on April 22 offers the biggest remaining delegate prize in a primary limited to Democrats — 158. Even there, Clinton and Obama are opening a pitched competition to bring many of the state's nearly 1 million independents into the party in time to vote, an opportunity now accorded about 4 million Democrats.
Bottom line: Clinton isn't going to win Texas -- and has only a 50-50 chance at best of winning Ohio. And without either state in the Clinton column, Obama's march to the Democratic nomination will be unstoppable.
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Posted by: steveselverston on Feb 23, 2008 8:14 PM
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Posted by: Ruth_Calabria on Mar 2, 2008 8:15 AM
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This is the most important election America will ever have, possibly the last if Barack Obama is not elected.
The Evolutionary Party derives its politics from an equation for evolution that has been in the textbooks for the last eighty years. A mathematical elaboration of it supported by data ranging from chemical kinetics to the evening news indicates that our “war on terror” is slowly but surely escalating to World War III, a truly terrifying thought. For that reason we support Barack Obama, the only real anti-war candidate.
The value of our unusual mathematical political analysis lies in its being able to differentiate between the skunks and the citizens. The media people are skunks. If they don’t watch what they say and do, they don’t last long. The ones who make the cut spout the American ideology in one form or another. These include the full spectrum of television and movie actors, including the politicians and the newscasters...
...And doesn’t it make you wonder about the guy’s wife? Does any sane female over the age of 22 really think Hillary felt bad about Bill and Monica? Behind all the media hype that protects those who help control the little people, you have to wonder:
A.) Is Hillary is lesbian, a married one, not that unusual in modern America. If Hillary was mad about anything with Monica, it was that she didn’t get a shot at her too. Watch one of Hillary’s lovers surface soon to clarify her tastes as to penile object.
B.) The smiling Clintons are so phony and so slimy underneath that one would not be surprised to find that the inarguably unconfident and possibly mildly retarded Chelsea Clinton was the product of her pervert parents abusing her when she was four years old, the age she seems to be stuck in. Certainly there is as much truth in this outrageous conjecture as the Clintons being good people because they go to church on Sunday. No, what the Clintons are is not good, but likable. Likable is a banana split. You just like how it tastes. You don’t need a reason. The Clintons are an imitation banana split, very likeable, like artificial sweetener that causes cancer eight years down the line.
You can trust what a Clinton says like you can trust what a Bush says. That whole family, George I, George II, Lady Barbara and Lady Laura, are all great actors too. And isn’t it interesting that the Bush daughters, Jenna and what’s her name, are as unconfident and inept as Chelsea. Makes you wonder if Bush uses a cigar too. But on Lady Laura, the Virgin Mary of conservatives?
True, this skit by the one writer’s guild writer who didn’t get rehired is a bit insane. But there are a lot of people around today that are actually insane, not the least of whom are the conservatives, all of which are unbalanced emotionally because of their castration in childhood from the pains of physical punishment and strict obedience. They are inherently defective however much their endless charades from Senate podiums and on Fox News try to hide it. And dangerous when they have weapons in their grasp.
If you want the war and the police state to end, vote for Barack Obama. Not for Hillary, who is so self-serving and devious that you wouldn’t be surprised if she teamed up with Huckabee as VP on a national reconciliation ticket. Or some such curve ball the moneyed class would use to block Obama from getting in and ending our descent into irreversible totalitarianism and worldwide war. Hopefully Obama will not be removed by assassination.
Who are we to say such dark things? We are the Evolutionary Party at www.matrix-evolutions.com.
Dr. and Mrs. Peter V. Calabria
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Posted by: HeKnew on Feb 20, 2008 12:07 AM
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But I'd never let him borrow my car.
Direct Primaries!
Direct Elections!
Direct Democracy!
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Posted by: foreverhope on Feb 20, 2008 3:06 AM
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Early votes in Harris County TX, Bushes home city of Houston, 12,000 people have cast a vote ALREADY, 9,400 ARE NEW DEMS.
Last year's primary election in Harris County only 1300 people voted.
Even better, Harris County is tradionally republican!
OBAMA '08
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Posted by: foreverhope on Feb 20, 2008 3:06 AM
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Early votes in Harris County TX, Bushes home city of Houston, 12,000 people have cast a vote ALREADY, 9,400 ARE NEW DEMS.
Last year's primary election in Harris County only 1300 people voted.
Even better, Harris County is tradionally republican!
OBAMA '08
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Posted by: robchapman on Feb 20, 2008 4:46 AM
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The Republican National Committee (RNC) web-site recently displayed a monopoly money type bill with Obama's picture on it.
The message from the GOP is that Obama is inexperienced and will raise taxes to onerous levels and mismanage the economy.
The GOP suggest in various ways that voters "cost out" the magnitude of universal health insurance, the continuation of a robust social security system, Green Collar job development, the improvement of our educational and any other proposals offered by the Democrats.
The Republicans state that the cost of these initiatives will bust the budget, distort the economy and set America into an uncontrollable inflationary spiral.
It may be more fun to harrass the Clinonistas and mock out Hillary Clinton as her ship slowly sinks, but how productive is it?
It is vital that Democrats use this time to accentuate the positive aspects of their message.
Democrats must continuer to portray the initiatives in Universal Health Care, Robust Social Security, Green Collar job development and Improved Education and our other proposals as investments in America's future which will increase our prosperity and well being of all our citizens.
Clearly the primary voters are responding positively to the Democratic message and are participating in a 2 to 1 majority over the Republicans.
But the GOP have already begun focussing their attention on the general election campaign.
Are the Democrats going to squander the palpable advantages that our candidates have built up through intra-party bickering and haggling over insubstantial issues.
Each voter is entitled to cast his or her vote according the dictates of conscience, interest and judgement. Hopefully, voters will make these decisions based on their perceptions of who will make the better President for America and for their respective communities.
Shame on the commentators and the pundits for all their gossip and scandalizing over the trivial horse race stories.
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Posted by: robchapman on Feb 20, 2008 5:12 AM
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Think for a moment about the sources of potential energy and creativity that an Obama Administration will unleash.
Obama:
* community orgainizer,
* constitutional law professor,
* successful legislator with a knack for building bipartisan coalitions,
* immensely gifted political leader who came from nowhere and won the nomination of the world's oldest, largest and most successful political party.
The difference between McCain and Obama are stark.
The difference between McCain and Obama are overwhelmingly in OBAMA's favor.
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» anyone deriding Prof. Obama for his "senior lecturer" title is a fool
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Posted by: davescott on Feb 20, 2008 5:28 AM
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Feb 20, 2008 6:24 AM
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1) serve a little time on the WalMart board of directors
2) some $50,000 speeches to the medical and drug industry
3) putting in a plug now and then for the Iraq war
4) Speaking to the Chamber of Commerce or the National Association of Manufacturers about the wonders of Globalization and NAFTA
5) Keeping an eye on Bill, and stopping him from copping a feel of that pretty young aide whenever he has a chance.
anyone else care to add their ideas to Hillary's "to do" list in case she has to chuck the opportunity to become pres?
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Posted by: keefus55 on Feb 20, 2008 6:25 AM
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It would appear that the "wheels started coming off the Clinton bus" even before she lost the Iowa caucuses and barely eeked out a virtual tie with Mr. Obama in New Hampshire.
That's because her negative approval ratings have always been high…upwards of 50 percent. My hunch is that most Democrats saw no other "electable" candidate in the field, so they (grudgingly) were resigned to Hillary's nomination and had fingers crossed that she could beat whomever the Republicans coughed up to run against her.
It's also become increasingly evident that Mrs. Clinton's campaign was never intended to be a 50 state campaign. She truly believed she'd have the nomination all sewn up by Super Tuesday. For, why else would she have blown through some $130 Million in campaign funds (while staying in plush accommodations along the way in the earlier contests) only to now be forced into borrowing money from herself just to keep her campaign bus filled with gas?
What's more, when she was forced to re-assure potential voters just before the Potomac primaries that there would be "no new scandals" caused by her philandering husband and former President, that comment did absolutely nothing but force Democrats into thinking, "Do we REALLY want a known source of "bimbo eruptions" and other assorted embarrassing scandals (a.k.a "Whitewater") once again living in the White House for the Republicans to ruthlessly attack?"
In addition, the proportional nature of the Democratic primary rules (vice the Republican's predominantly "winner take all" approach) has also favored Mr. Obama, and he is clearly using those rules to his advantage. The longer it takes to wrap up the Democratic nomination, the more popular he seems to become.
As a result, the Democratic campaign for President has now turned into a classic "tortoise and hair" race, with Mr. Obama obviously content to plod along...garnering small numbers of delegates here and there from the (mostly smaller) states Mrs. Clinton felt were well beneath her dignity to even campaign in.
The fact that Mr. Obama HAS elected to campaign in these smaller states has since fired up traditionally "sleepy" electorates that have most often been ignored by other candidates...including Mrs. Clinton. The enthusiasm (and votes) coming out of these smaller states are now yielding delegate counts that are, collectively, starting to add up into "real numbers". And they are all favoring Mr. Obama.
There is no doubt that President and Mrs. Clinton's arrogant (and now clearly mistaken) belief in the inevitability of Mrs. Clinton's "coronation" as President have helped lead to her downfall. Both she and her husband clearly over-estimated her (and his) lingering popularity with Democrats. And, judging from the hypothetical match-ups between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. McCain, they also overestimated her popularity with the rest of the country as well.
Now that mainstream Democrats have gotten a really good look at her (and yet another one at him) "up close and personal-like", many of the lingering fears and long-suppressed feelings of disapproval among many Democrats for BOTH of the Clintons are now coming to the fore, particularly now that many of those same Democrats firmly believe they have an electable alternative.
All of which leads me to the inevitable conclusion that the REAL problem with Mrs. Clinton is not so much her campaign or her campaign managers…. it's just her.
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Posted by: Andie927 on Feb 20, 2008 6:40 AM
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DON'T LOOK AT THE ISSUES!!Now, now, follow the left hand, don't look at the right hand!
The Republican's are going to LET Obama win!! Then when he fails, (like Duval in Mass.) they get to put Jeb Bush in the White House in 2012!
Why do YOU think so many Republicans are voting for Obama? He's PRO-Wall Street, Pro-Corporate self-regulation, PRO-Bush's Private Retirement Accounts! & the icing on the cake, PRO-Nuclear Power, and Big Coal!!
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Posted by: solrev on Feb 20, 2008 8:02 AM
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This is why Texas is the key for Obama. In Texas independents need not apply to vote in the democratic primary. Obama must turn the female and Latino vote in Texas to beat Clinton. If this happens the old demon party masters, will have to abandon one of theirs, and Clinton will withdraw to save her remaining war chest for another day. If Obama can not pull the win in Texas, the demon party masters may push him to make a deal. I hope Obama hangs tuff because Clinton can not win without the Obama independents and newbees. It is time to dump the stump speeches and move on to the next vote that counts the electoral vote.
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Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on Feb 20, 2008 8:08 AM
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Obama is no better though. He is already pulling a Clintonian triangulation by talking about his admiration for Reagan, and bitching about the excesses of 60's and 70's.
Further Obama appears to be appealing to the white voters with his 'tough love' speeches to black audiences.
Either way, there won't be any progressive change with Obama/Hillary in the White House.
McCain will simply continue the neocon policy of Bush admin.
In the end, the only reason to vote for either Obama or Hillary is that we might have a chance of putting one or more center/center-left justices on the SC bench.
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Posted by: beckidahl on Feb 20, 2008 8:10 AM
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If the situation were reversed and Obama had just lost 10 straight primaries, would the media even be interviewing Obama campaign spokespeople every hour and carrying his NON-concession speech on major cable news? I seriously doubt it. He would have been counted out and declared dead long before Wisconsin.
Think about it!!
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Posted by: jim_altman on Feb 20, 2008 8:19 AM
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Posted by: foreverhope on Feb 20, 2008 8:30 AM
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I just figured out what it is about Obama! you want to know what the 'magic' is?
This man is brilliant and shines in so many ways, yes he is charismatic, no doubt, but why?
He has a BURNING DESIRE, a FIRE IN HIS BELLY! That is why his message for change is SO POWERFUL.
THAT is WHY his message is compelling and that is why people across the country are responding and pouring into convention centers across this country just to hear him.
WE, this country, want change just as badly as Barack wants change and he is putting it into words for all of us.
It is really just that simple, and he won't be able to do it alone. We need to sweep as many dem seats into Congress and the Senate as we can, this momentum and enthusiasim is REAL powerful stuff!
YES WE CAN, AND WE MUST, TAKE BACK THIS COUNTRY!
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OBAMA!
This just keeps getting better and better and better and better, I am loving it!
You know, for skeptics of this amazing grassroots movement, so many endlessly complain that the biggest problem with our democratic process is not enough people pay attention, get involved or even vote, ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE.
Barack is is the one turning that around, and also SOMEHOW helping this country come together in the first REAL way progressives have EVER seen.
Please at least give Obama credit for the energy and momentum he is bringing to our democratic process. This is pretty amazing stuff by anyone's standards and it WILL work in our favor. OF COURSE WE MUST HOLD OBAMA RESPONSIBLE once elected but we will have to be there helping him get it done too.
We NEED to get behind this SPLENDID democratic candidate A.S.A.P.
Look, if Hillary were not a Clinton, not the ex First Lady, do you believe this would really be happening? At this point any respectable or responsible challenger would see the writing on the wall and gracefull congratulate Barack and bow out, EVEN ENDORSE HIM! LET THE DEMS GET ON WITH THE GENERAL.
Can anyone ignore or minimize all these wonderful excited new voters EAGER to participate? or throw all this energy away? Talk about cutting off a nose to spite the face.
At the VERY LEAST give Obama the credit ANYONE ELSE SHOULD receive for inspiring SO MANY NEW VOTERS AND YOUNG VOTERS INTO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
TEN WINS IN A ROW, GO OBAMA!
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Posted by: aonghus36 on Feb 20, 2008 8:58 AM
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the mention of Hawaii?
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Feb 20, 2008 10:04 AM
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This country is so fu*ked-up that I truly fear another Bobby Kennedy thing or even a Chile 9-11-73. I have personally heard from the rabid-right crowd examples of the fury that the mere possiblity of Obama's election arouses in certain people. Some angry young white male, schooled in guns and Bill O'Reilley, filled with Wacko Jesus philosophy and enraged at anything that is even slightly Muslim--can such a possibility be dismissed outright?
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Posted by: Hovey on Feb 20, 2008 10:23 AM
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Posted by: Kym525 on Feb 21, 2008 2:29 PM
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Obama cannot run this country alone and unlike Bush, isn't interested in doing so. Activism and volunteering shouldn't come to an end if he gets into the White House (or even if he doesn't).
The Obama campaign has shown that people still matter and that armed with the FACTS, rather than spin, we are more than capable of choosing the candidate who understands the issues that effect ALL Americans. That's one reason I think he doesn't spend a lot of time talking himself up. If you want to know his stand on an issue, go to his website and do the homework necessary. Everything you need to know is there and it's all attributed. When was the last time any politician was that open with their record?
Obama treats his constituency like intelligent and thoughtful people who have been separated too long by right-wing distortions and lies. He wants us to be active in changing the tenor of politics and not to sit on our butts complaining. I for one am ready.
By the way, leave Michelle Obama alone!!! Unless you were in her head, you cannot possibly know what she meant by her statement. However, having just watched a History Channel documentary on black soldiers in WWII, seven of whom were never awarded the Medal of Honor until 1991 (five awarded posthumously), I can totally understand where she might have been coming from. What a grave injustice. Complain about THAT, why don't you?
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Posted by: SkeeterVT1 on Feb 23, 2008 7:18 AM
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But according to new polls in both states, Clinton's "firewalls" are already crumbling.
More major labor unions are backing Obama -- which could have a big effect on how blue-collar voters cast their ballots in the Buckeye State.
Texas is the worst state in the Union in terms of Latino voter turnout -- primarily because up to 30 percent of Latinos in Texas are non-citizen immigrants who cannot vote and Texas is Tom DeLay's home state. How can you possibly forget DeLay's voter-suppression tactics against Latinos in the late '90s and early '00s that resulted in the GOP takeover of both the Lone Star State's congressional delegation and its state legislature?
Then, there's the role of independents -- who clearly favor Obama.
Among independents, Obama is leading Clinton by 14 percentage points in Ohio and by 13 in Texas, according to a Washington Post-ABC News telephone poll taken Feb. 16-20.
And the settling of the GOP race in John McCain's favor is an enticement for self-styled "Obamicans" -- Obama-leaning moderate Republicans -- to come out for the Democratic election that still matters.
Moreover, both states let people vote early. Obama, fresh from his Wisconsin victory on Tuesday, didn't wait for the dust to settle before exhorting Texans to vote right away. "I don't want you to wait until March 4," he said. Clinton, with a head start in campaigning in Texas, also appealed for an early lock on votes.
In the 22 contested Democratic primaries so far, independents made up 22 percent of the vote and they supported Obama by an overwhelming margin of 64 percent to 33 percent. Crossover Republicans, a far smaller percentage in the Democratic primaries, backed him 55-33.
Yet Obama has even the party's left flank covered: a 52-44 advantage over the New York senator among those who consider themselves very liberal.
Pennsylvania on April 22 offers the biggest remaining delegate prize in a primary limited to Democrats — 158. Even there, Clinton and Obama are opening a pitched competition to bring many of the state's nearly 1 million independents into the party in time to vote, an opportunity now accorded about 4 million Democrats.
Bottom line: Clinton isn't going to win Texas -- and has only a 50-50 chance at best of winning Ohio. And without either state in the Clinton column, Obama's march to the Democratic nomination will be unstoppable.
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Posted by: steveselverston on Feb 23, 2008 8:14 PM
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Posted by: Ruth_Calabria on Mar 2, 2008 8:15 AM
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This is the most important election America will ever have, possibly the last if Barack Obama is not elected.
The Evolutionary Party derives its politics from an equation for evolution that has been in the textbooks for the last eighty years. A mathematical elaboration of it supported by data ranging from chemical kinetics to the evening news indicates that our “war on terror” is slowly but surely escalating to World War III, a truly terrifying thought. For that reason we support Barack Obama, the only real anti-war candidate.
The value of our unusual mathematical political analysis lies in its being able to differentiate between the skunks and the citizens. The media people are skunks. If they don’t watch what they say and do, they don’t last long. The ones who make the cut spout the American ideology in one form or another. These include the full spectrum of television and movie actors, including the politicians and the newscasters...
...And doesn’t it make you wonder about the guy’s wife? Does any sane female over the age of 22 really think Hillary felt bad about Bill and Monica? Behind all the media hype that protects those who help control the little people, you have to wonder:
A.) Is Hillary is lesbian, a married one, not that unusual in modern America. If Hillary was mad about anything with Monica, it was that she didn’t get a shot at her too. Watch one of Hillary’s lovers surface soon to clarify her tastes as to penile object.
B.) The smiling Clintons are so phony and so slimy underneath that one would not be surprised to find that the inarguably unconfident and possibly mildly retarded Chelsea Clinton was the product of her pervert parents abusing her when she was four years old, the age she seems to be stuck in. Certainly there is as much truth in this outrageous conjecture as the Clintons being good people because they go to church on Sunday. No, what the Clintons are is not good, but likable. Likable is a banana split. You just like how it tastes. You don’t need a reason. The Clintons are an imitation banana split, very likeable, like artificial sweetener that causes cancer eight years down the line.
You can trust what a Clinton says like you can trust what a Bush says. That whole family, George I, George II, Lady Barbara and Lady Laura, are all great actors too. And isn’t it interesting that the Bush daughters, Jenna and what’s her name, are as unconfident and inept as Chelsea. Makes you wonder if Bush uses a cigar too. But on Lady Laura, the Virgin Mary of conservatives?
True, this skit by the one writer’s guild writer who didn’t get rehired is a bit insane. But there are a lot of people around today that are actually insane, not the least of whom are the conservatives, all of which are unbalanced emotionally because of their castration in childhood from the pains of physical punishment and strict obedience. They are inherently defective however much their endless charades from Senate podiums and on Fox News try to hide it. And dangerous when they have weapons in their grasp.
If you want the war and the police state to end, vote for Barack Obama. Not for Hillary, who is so self-serving and devious that you wouldn’t be surprised if she teamed up with Huckabee as VP on a national reconciliation ticket. Or some such curve ball the moneyed class would use to block Obama from getting in and ending our descent into irreversible totalitarianism and worldwide war. Hopefully Obama will not be removed by assassination.
Who are we to say such dark things? We are the Evolutionary Party at www.matrix-evolutions.com.
Dr. and Mrs. Peter V. Calabria
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