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What Dems Need to Know About John McCain
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Democrats should keep in mind the fact Rush Limbaugh, Dr. James Dobson (founder of Focus on the Family) and a collective booing by attendees of this season's CPAC convention adds up to a Sister Souljah moment for Sen. McCain. Sen. McCain can't be a Bush Republican if all of those people despise him. No amount of ribald applause from that crowd is enough for Sen. McCain to want to emulate the Bush Administration, which is much like a wounded animal looking for a cool, shady place to die.
Democrats know well that Republicans are relying on Sen. Clinton winning the Democratic Party presidential nomination so that her polarity delivers a victory for the GOP in November. While conservatives distrust Sen. McCain - they will shelve it and vote for him if Sen. Clinton is the presidential nominee of her party.
Democrats should also know that if Sen. Obama is the nominee then a larger than anticipated portion of Democratic white males may balk at casting a vote for him - reluctant to give up the franchise when they can cast their vote for a white male with war hero status and an ability to work with the most liberal Democrats in Washington, DC to get things done.
The list of bipartisan endeavor is prolific: the Bipartisan Campaign Finance Reform Act (with Sen. Feingold), bipartisan legislation addressing immigration (with Sen. Kennedy), climate change (with Sen. Lieberman), patient bill of rights (with former Sen. Edwards), and the Gang of 14 (good luck to Dr. Dobson using the Gang of 14 argument in a persuasive way - his radio listeners will fall asleep at the wheel before grasping his convoluted argument). If it is true that America is looking for a president who is more about problem-solving and less about dogma, no candidate currently in the contest boasts a record that rivals Sen. McCain's ability to reach across the partisan aisle.
Democrats should also understand what many Republicans know. Sen. McCain has a long legislative record and a scandalous relationship with the S&L crisis that is ripe for comparison to the sub-prime mortgage meltdown -- there is a lot of fodder for attack. Picking the right issues and using them at the right time has a lot to do with beating Sen. McCain in the fall.
Also to his vulnerabilities; Sen. McCain is not made for the television era of politics. Against either Democratic candidate, but especially Sen. Obama, Sen. McCain runs the risk of looking like Richard Nixon in his debate against Sen. Kennedy in 1960 in the first televised presidential debate. Radio listeners scored it a win for Nixon. The 70 million television viewers saw a sweaty Nixon fold to a charismatically cool Kennedy. A bona fide American hero who puts most of us to shame, Sen. McCain's body is broken and that does not play well before the cruel audience that is the American television watching public. What Democrats should know is that they have the advantage here and need not press it, lest risking negative blowback in the form of compassion for Sen. McCain.
Democrats need to respect that Sen. McCain is not a knuckle-dragging, Neanderthal conservative. This is a thoughtful man with a life experience like no other candidate in this contest. Unafraid to cross party lines, and even pick fights with his Republican colleagues, he is the quintessential western Republican, conservative spirit who does not betray his principles.
These are some of the things that Democrats may not know about John McCain, but will start to realize pretty quick.
Here's one other thing I didn't know about John McCain. My father taught him how to swim in New London, CT in the early 1940s. I survived my father's unique brand of instruction and understand in a small way that it means Sen. McCain is a resilient soul -- his life story being evidence of that. That life story is why Democrats face losing if they do not respect the opponent they've drawn in the 2008 presidential election.
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Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Feb 11, 2008 12:31 AM
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Posted by: HeKnew on Feb 11, 2008 12:31 AM
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"He eventually spent five and a half years in various prison camps, three and a half of those in solitary confinement, and was repeatedly beaten and tortured before he was finally released..."
No one wants to ask if there are any psychological problems that may impair McCain's ability to manage a nuclear arsenal. Just like no one wanted to ask about Bush blowing up frogs.
Maybe this time we should ask.
No one wants to ask if there are any psychological problems that may impair McCain's ability to manage a nuclear arsenal. Just like no one wanted to ask about Bush blowing up frogs.
Maybe this time we should ask.
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It may be true that
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Feb 11, 2008 1:31 AM
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Posted by: UnEasyOne on Feb 11, 2008 1:31 AM
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Democrats need to respect that Sen. McCain is not a knuckle-dragging, Neanderthal conservative but the wingnuts have a quarter of a billion dollars raised to trash our nominee.
This article gives McCain a lot more credit than I do. I think he is the biggest sellout and hypocrite in congress.
He didn't volunteer to get shot down and he has ridden that experience for his whole political life. It doesn't make him a hero - and his sellout and vote with his party on the torture issue - along with his campaign support for Bush shows his utter lack of integrity.
This article gives McCain a lot more credit than I do. I think he is the biggest sellout and hypocrite in congress.
He didn't volunteer to get shot down and he has ridden that experience for his whole political life. It doesn't make him a hero - and his sellout and vote with his party on the torture issue - along with his campaign support for Bush shows his utter lack of integrity.
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» RE: It may be true that ... OMG! I accidentallly gave the troll a 5!
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» RE: It may be true that ... OMG! I accidentallly gave the troll a 5!
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» RE: yeah! let's get it straight
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» RE: McCain is a war criminal and 'serving' in Vietnam ought to be a badge of shame
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» RE: McCain is a war criminal and 'serving' in Vietnam ought to be a badge of shame
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» RE: I do agree that Kerry, LBJ, JFK and the rest who participated
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» RE: I do agree that Kerry, LBJ, JFK and the rest who participated
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» RE: US military only protects Corporate interests
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» Flat out wrong
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» RE: Nearly 40 years and the emotions are still high
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» RE: Nearly 40 years and the emotions are still high
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» RE: McCain is a war criminal and 'serving' in Vietnam ought to be a badge of shame
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» RE: Sacrifice? I don't think so
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» RE: Sacrifice? I don't think so
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» RE: There is no doubt....
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» I don't plan on voting for McCain either
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Don't fool yourselves
Posted by: Democritus on Feb 11, 2008 5:21 AM
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Posted by: Democritus on Feb 11, 2008 5:21 AM
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Mr. Raymond's gloss on McCain is just another fairy tale. People like Raymond and other Republican operatives have now been touting the "great American hero" line about McCain. Tony Blankley, in a recent op-ed column called McCain "the greatest American hero since Eisenhower to run for president."
This is sheer nonsense. Being a reckless pilot and suffering five and a half years as a POW is not enough to make one a hero. McCain would probably not have survived his confinement for a week if the North Vietnamese hadn't discovered that his father was a four-star admiral in charge of CINCPAC. Thus, he became a valuable prisoner; and even though he was physically abused he was kept alive. McCain fans like to downplay the fact that he "broke" under torture and admitted that he was an "air pirate." Others are not so kind. Jack McLamb, a decorated Vietnam vet, claims that other POWs called McCain "Songbird," because of his willingness to give information to his captors. Whether McLamb's story has merit is questionable, but it's enough to pour cold water on the "American hero" mantra.
The facts about McCain show that he would be Bush on steroids. He's for privatizing Social Security, promoting school vouchers to privatize our education system, extending Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy, supporting the death penalty, repealing Roe v. Wade, and continuing our occupation of Iraq for even "100 years." He was also urging the bombing North Korea, but wiser heads prevailed, and Jimmy Carter was able to negotiate a deal with the North Koreans.
In short, despite Mr. Raymond's claims, McCain is a rash, war-mongering arch-conservative. You can look all of this up in McCain's bio on Wikipedia.
What is puzzling to me are the attacks made on McCain by right-wingers such as Limbaugh, Hannity, and Coulter. He is one of their own, but they don't seem to know it. What I fear is that these clever Republican operatives are playing "rope-a-dope" with us, hoping that they can con independents and moderates into voting for him. But beware, those of you who think that there's not a dime's worth of difference between McCain and the eventual Democratic nominee. If McCain were ever elected, you would have more people dropping out of the middle class, all for the profit of the war-driven elite on Wall Street.
This is sheer nonsense. Being a reckless pilot and suffering five and a half years as a POW is not enough to make one a hero. McCain would probably not have survived his confinement for a week if the North Vietnamese hadn't discovered that his father was a four-star admiral in charge of CINCPAC. Thus, he became a valuable prisoner; and even though he was physically abused he was kept alive. McCain fans like to downplay the fact that he "broke" under torture and admitted that he was an "air pirate." Others are not so kind. Jack McLamb, a decorated Vietnam vet, claims that other POWs called McCain "Songbird," because of his willingness to give information to his captors. Whether McLamb's story has merit is questionable, but it's enough to pour cold water on the "American hero" mantra.
The facts about McCain show that he would be Bush on steroids. He's for privatizing Social Security, promoting school vouchers to privatize our education system, extending Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy, supporting the death penalty, repealing Roe v. Wade, and continuing our occupation of Iraq for even "100 years." He was also urging the bombing North Korea, but wiser heads prevailed, and Jimmy Carter was able to negotiate a deal with the North Koreans.
In short, despite Mr. Raymond's claims, McCain is a rash, war-mongering arch-conservative. You can look all of this up in McCain's bio on Wikipedia.
What is puzzling to me are the attacks made on McCain by right-wingers such as Limbaugh, Hannity, and Coulter. He is one of their own, but they don't seem to know it. What I fear is that these clever Republican operatives are playing "rope-a-dope" with us, hoping that they can con independents and moderates into voting for him. But beware, those of you who think that there's not a dime's worth of difference between McCain and the eventual Democratic nominee. If McCain were ever elected, you would have more people dropping out of the middle class, all for the profit of the war-driven elite on Wall Street.
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» Right wingers never forgive, never forget.
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Passed up!
Posted by: carbon-based on Feb 11, 2008 5:27 AM
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Posted by: carbon-based on Feb 11, 2008 5:27 AM
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Excellent article - McCain is the democrats nightmare for sure.
But his "scandles" pale in comparison to Hillary scandles so I'm sure she would never go there. Obama just doesnt have enough experience to have scandles, save drug use and working for slum lords.
The young voters see the drug use as a connection so it's no big deal.
And to those same voters Vietnam and McCains ordeal was a history book lesson, which many may have been high that day and don't really remember it too well.. (no problem because our current President doesn't seem to have remembered it well either - there's those drugs again!)
I like McCain alot because he will fight his party and stand up for what he believes. But I think my vote will go for Obama, not because he is a better speaker but because I think in the end he will behave the same as McCain in many issues and just may be able to sway world opinion our way again.. I'm not sure McCain can manage that!
We should have had McCain 8 years ago!
But his "scandles" pale in comparison to Hillary scandles so I'm sure she would never go there. Obama just doesnt have enough experience to have scandles, save drug use and working for slum lords.
The young voters see the drug use as a connection so it's no big deal.
And to those same voters Vietnam and McCains ordeal was a history book lesson, which many may have been high that day and don't really remember it too well.. (no problem because our current President doesn't seem to have remembered it well either - there's those drugs again!)
I like McCain alot because he will fight his party and stand up for what he believes. But I think my vote will go for Obama, not because he is a better speaker but because I think in the end he will behave the same as McCain in many issues and just may be able to sway world opinion our way again.. I'm not sure McCain can manage that!
We should have had McCain 8 years ago!
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Obama vs. McCain
Posted by: MakingSense on Feb 11, 2008 5:38 AM
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Posted by: MakingSense on Feb 11, 2008 5:38 AM
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The article's writer concludes that a larger than anticipated number of Democratic males would not vote for Obama because of his race. I question if the writer has any grounds for this assertion. A Gallup poll from Septmeber 2007 indicated that only 5% of all Americans would not vote for a presidential candidate because he was black. That's a mighty small portion of the general electorate, and even a smaller portion of that number would affiliate with the Democratic party. If the presidential matchup became McCain vs. Obama, I doubt race would play any significant role (Obama's mother was a white woman from Kansas).
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» Remember the "poll effect"
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» And as for suburban women swing voters--hello!
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The "Straight Talk Express" derailed four years ago.
Posted by: KeepsonTickn on Feb 11, 2008 5:41 AM
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Posted by: KeepsonTickn on Feb 11, 2008 5:41 AM
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I had a lot of respect for Senator McCain at one time. I might have voted for him had he been nominated in 2000. But then he sold out on everything he had ever said or done before and worked so diligently to get Bush reelected in 2004, when it had become all too clear what the Bush administration was doing to this country. Had he just sat that one out I could still believe in his integrity.
Can McCain expect us to believe that he put the "straight talk express" back on the rails for this election?
Can McCain expect us to believe that he put the "straight talk express" back on the rails for this election?
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» RE: The "Straight Talk Express" was always a scam.
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McCain is no hero!!!
Posted by: xvictor on Feb 11, 2008 6:01 AM
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Posted by: xvictor on Feb 11, 2008 6:01 AM
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He was merely a victim of misdirected foreign policy.
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Mr. Raymond is a RACIST for writing this kind of trash !
Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 11, 2008 6:20 AM
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Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 11, 2008 6:20 AM
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Look, Obama may be a corporate "nicety" just like Hillary and McCain but to suggest that white Democrats may not vote for Obama just because he's black is DISGUSTING and as a white male Christian I find this trash offensive ! It's not like Hillary will fare any better !
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» Max,see my comment "Remember the poll effect" nm
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» Unfortunate observations
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» Racism is irrational and
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Midway54
Posted by: Midway54 on Feb 11, 2008 6:28 AM
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Posted by: Midway54 on Feb 11, 2008 6:28 AM
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All of us remember the political mayhem committed on McCain in South Carolina in 2000 by the current Puppet's thugs led by Rove, Ralph "religious conman" Reed, the crackpots of Bob Jones University, all of whom were aided and abetted by the Bible-thumping Redneck Dupes' whispering campaign not just against McCain but against all of his family.In 2000 McCain was a different man, favored by Independents and many Democrats.
Then came the deplorable photo of McCain, while being embraced by the Puppet a couple of years ago, shown resting his head on the Puppet's left shoulder. This very act was a nauseating display of craven obsequience. Worse, he at the same time was turning his back on his family members who had been so savaged by the said crew of misfits without conscience. Now, to really demonstrate how lacking both in self-respect and in his ability to predict public reaction, McCain incredibly welcomes the advice of Rove, who in effect led the charge with a political meat cleaver in the South Carolina 2000 mayhem.
This guy is saying the right things: Continuing the quasi-fascist gun barrel policy of the ultra-Right in control of the Republican Party; continuing the comfort and welfare of the Plutocrats with deeper, frequent, and hopefully permanent tax cuts; cutting spending with the concealed objective of shredding the safety net social programs of medicare, medicaid, and social security, excluding of course the necessary spending to bail out failed corporations, to subsidize business entities, and to reward U. S. companies that move their manufacturing jobs and service components (legal, medical, and customer relations) overseas.
The middle and lower middle class Americans finding it ever harder to survive economically and for that matter politically need to listen to McCain and his vision for America. With him in the White House, this Country will be burdened with a third term Bush II administration. Do we really want that...indeed, can the Country survive the continuation of the devastation wreaked upon this Country by the incompetence and downright indifference of the Bush Gang?
Then came the deplorable photo of McCain, while being embraced by the Puppet a couple of years ago, shown resting his head on the Puppet's left shoulder. This very act was a nauseating display of craven obsequience. Worse, he at the same time was turning his back on his family members who had been so savaged by the said crew of misfits without conscience. Now, to really demonstrate how lacking both in self-respect and in his ability to predict public reaction, McCain incredibly welcomes the advice of Rove, who in effect led the charge with a political meat cleaver in the South Carolina 2000 mayhem.
This guy is saying the right things: Continuing the quasi-fascist gun barrel policy of the ultra-Right in control of the Republican Party; continuing the comfort and welfare of the Plutocrats with deeper, frequent, and hopefully permanent tax cuts; cutting spending with the concealed objective of shredding the safety net social programs of medicare, medicaid, and social security, excluding of course the necessary spending to bail out failed corporations, to subsidize business entities, and to reward U. S. companies that move their manufacturing jobs and service components (legal, medical, and customer relations) overseas.
The middle and lower middle class Americans finding it ever harder to survive economically and for that matter politically need to listen to McCain and his vision for America. With him in the White House, this Country will be burdened with a third term Bush II administration. Do we really want that...indeed, can the Country survive the continuation of the devastation wreaked upon this Country by the incompetence and downright indifference of the Bush Gang?
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» A Very Fine Post!
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McCain is really dangerous
Posted by: oxheadone on Feb 11, 2008 6:35 AM
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Posted by: oxheadone on Feb 11, 2008 6:35 AM
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He is a biggest supporter of the Iraq war, which is destroying the US internationally, domestically, and militarily. The election will be a test of support for the war. Since Clinton voted for the war she is the weakest candidate against McCain. It would help if the democrats could impeach President Bush; the charges are freely available in many published sources. I do not understand why they haven't done it by now.
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Democrats should love McCain
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Feb 11, 2008 7:10 AM
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Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Feb 11, 2008 7:10 AM
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He'll bring you gun control, open borders, and more war (which, judging by their actions, dems love war as much as repugs). He'll even raise taxes, through the mechanism of currency devaluation, just like Bush has done. McCain is a liberal's wet dream.
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google:
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"Will the Real McCain Please Sit Down"
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Pro-choice is a concept missing from McCain's brain
Posted by: leemiller38 on Feb 11, 2008 7:18 AM
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Posted by: leemiller38 on Feb 11, 2008 7:18 AM
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Mr. McCain is firmly an anti-choice Republican with a no compromise voting record. Obama and Hillary are both squarely pro-choice. McCain will appoint more right wingers to the courts to try to overturn Roe v Wade. This issue didn't defeat Bush in 04, but it should have and it should sink McCain this time around. The democrats would be smart to use it as an issue rather than be apologetic about abortions.
Overpopulation and nuclear weapons are the two biggest world's problem, but don't expect any candidate to acknowledge this. Bush just cut 130+ millions from an already anemic family planning budget. The Bush administration's. pro-life stance for family planning is fewer condoms and more cluster bombs.
Overpopulation and nuclear weapons are the two biggest world's problem, but don't expect any candidate to acknowledge this. Bush just cut 130+ millions from an already anemic family planning budget. The Bush administration's. pro-life stance for family planning is fewer condoms and more cluster bombs.
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McCain is VERY beatable!
Posted by: left-leaning-libertarian on Feb 11, 2008 7:31 AM
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Posted by: left-leaning-libertarian on Feb 11, 2008 7:31 AM
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I'd say all anybody'd have to do is run a clip of McCain humming a la Dr. Strangelove that weird little riff on "Barbara Ann" which I believe went something like "Bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb Iran. . .etc etc" or offer up the Seantor's statement about staying in Iraq for "a hundred years." NOT what people are looking for and certainly not what most people want to vote for!
I disagree with the author of this piece; in fact, McCain, having pretty much sewn up the GOP nomination is actually trying to dive to the RIGHT to molify and shore up the "base." This will prove his undoing with the independents and moderates who have given him much of his momentum, and be extremely helpful to whomever the Democrats nominate.
Unlike the rancorously-divided GOP, the Democrats are all pretty much willing to unite behind and work for our nominee, whether that be Obama or Clinton. The GOP won't be quite so happy or enthusiastic and I can see a lot of them sitting this one out, chosing idelogical purity over victory. Also, don't rule out a right-wing third party insurgency from some of the religious wing-nuts if "Huckleberry Thin" doesn't get on the ticket (McCain would be a FOOL to let Huck anywhere near the VP slot).
I've also noticed that McCain has no poker face whatsoever; when he gets p***ed off it shows, and he seems to get p***ed off A LOT, especially when somebody crosses him or an audience won't go along with his line of BS. A few clips of that hair-trigger temper in action on CNN or ABC and people will start having serious second thoughts about this guy with his finger on the nuclear button, or his hands on any of the levers of power.
Gotta tell ya; I'm feeling better and better about the Democratic chances in this election with every passing day!
I disagree with the author of this piece; in fact, McCain, having pretty much sewn up the GOP nomination is actually trying to dive to the RIGHT to molify and shore up the "base." This will prove his undoing with the independents and moderates who have given him much of his momentum, and be extremely helpful to whomever the Democrats nominate.
Unlike the rancorously-divided GOP, the Democrats are all pretty much willing to unite behind and work for our nominee, whether that be Obama or Clinton. The GOP won't be quite so happy or enthusiastic and I can see a lot of them sitting this one out, chosing idelogical purity over victory. Also, don't rule out a right-wing third party insurgency from some of the religious wing-nuts if "Huckleberry Thin" doesn't get on the ticket (McCain would be a FOOL to let Huck anywhere near the VP slot).
I've also noticed that McCain has no poker face whatsoever; when he gets p***ed off it shows, and he seems to get p***ed off A LOT, especially when somebody crosses him or an audience won't go along with his line of BS. A few clips of that hair-trigger temper in action on CNN or ABC and people will start having serious second thoughts about this guy with his finger on the nuclear button, or his hands on any of the levers of power.
Gotta tell ya; I'm feeling better and better about the Democratic chances in this election with every passing day!
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ALL ABOUT IMAGE
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 11, 2008 7:58 AM
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 11, 2008 7:58 AM
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Your picture of McCain is glamorous and for the most part true. His story is a good one. But most of it does not include credentials that would make him a good president. War hero, yes. But he has no knowledge of the economy, no negotiating skills and zero patience. We've had a president in office who fits that same description and where did it get us? We need leadership, not an "interesting life story". Thankks, ANNA
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Are Democrats Being Snowed
Posted by: gabbyone on Feb 11, 2008 8:15 AM
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Posted by: gabbyone on Feb 11, 2008 8:15 AM
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Yesterday, one of the top Republican campaign operatives said there are a number of
people in the party who disagree strongly with this idea being floated that they can beat Clinton. However, he hopes Democrats continue to feel that way because they know they can beat Obama. He said Republicans are arguing among themselves whether to embrace her, trash her or just let the pollsters keep putting it out there that she can't win because they are not sure which will send more Democrats to vote for Obama. He said that any one who has gone up against the Clintons as Republicans knows they are hard to beat. When asked what advice he would give Clinton, he said she doesn't need any. When asked what advice he would give Obama, he said, don't believe you will attract many Republicans or Independents once the election gets here. If you look at the small number of caucus votes for Obama based on total Democratic and Republican population, it is ludicrious to think he will win Red states. In Kansas, only 10% of Democrats participated in the caucus. His advice to John McCain - your Vice Presidential choice is very important.
people in the party who disagree strongly with this idea being floated that they can beat Clinton. However, he hopes Democrats continue to feel that way because they know they can beat Obama. He said Republicans are arguing among themselves whether to embrace her, trash her or just let the pollsters keep putting it out there that she can't win because they are not sure which will send more Democrats to vote for Obama. He said that any one who has gone up against the Clintons as Republicans knows they are hard to beat. When asked what advice he would give Clinton, he said she doesn't need any. When asked what advice he would give Obama, he said, don't believe you will attract many Republicans or Independents once the election gets here. If you look at the small number of caucus votes for Obama based on total Democratic and Republican population, it is ludicrious to think he will win Red states. In Kansas, only 10% of Democrats participated in the caucus. His advice to John McCain - your Vice Presidential choice is very important.
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In re What the Dems Need to Know....
One thing which needs to be remembered and mentioned often is McCain's repeated statement, that he foresees the need for an American occupation of Iraq for "fifty or a hundred years."
If anyone thinks this would be anything like the "occupation" of South Korea, take another think. This is part and parcel of a civil war, which has gone on for centuries. The South Koreans recognized, that we saved them from the North Koreans. Without us, they could be starving like their relatives in the North.
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One thing which needs to be remembered and mentioned often is McCain's repeated statement, that he foresees the need for an American occupation of Iraq for "fifty or a hundred years."
If anyone thinks this would be anything like the "occupation" of South Korea, take another think. This is part and parcel of a civil war, which has gone on for centuries. The South Koreans recognized, that we saved them from the North Koreans. Without us, they could be starving like their relatives in the North.
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How naive
Posted by: mbruton on Feb 11, 2008 8:25 AM
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McCain has been forced upon the repug party as a lame duck meant to throw the fight to the radical corporate media's favorite conservative Hillary. Once again the sheeple will be presented with a "choice" of one corporate suck-up conservative or another. To pretend any differently is ignorant beyond belief.
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Posted by: mbruton on Feb 11, 2008 8:26 AM
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McCain has been forced upon the repug party as a lame duck meant to throw the fight to the radical corporate media's favorite conservative Hillary. Once again the sheeple will be presented with a "choice" of one corporate suck-up conservative or another. To pretend any differently is ignorant beyond belief.
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The choice couldn't be more clear
Posted by: willymack on Feb 11, 2008 8:41 AM
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If you want more of the same, vote for Mc Cain. If you want to see an effort to restore our democracy, vote Democratic. It's that easy.
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I can see now
Posted by: thirdmillenium on Feb 11, 2008 10:16 AM
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the political commercials run by the Dem candidate showing McCain responding to "How do we beat the bitch" with "Good Question!" or offering the joke of "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." Any hint of a grandfatherly benign image will be destroyed.
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Loose lips sink ships
Posted by: solrev on Feb 11, 2008 11:02 AM
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Beware the ides of McCain, because now they are upon you. If it was between McCain and Clinton, I will bet on McCain. It is really simple independents-McCain 1 and independents-Clinton 0. What about the war in Iraq, that has already been pushed off the front burner by the economy and any opportunity for the high ground has been squandered by the demon congress, well that’s about it. Do not make the mistake, you just watched the repuk TV and radio mouths make, when they thought they were masters of the universe. The key is going to be the Texas primary, where Obama can get no independent support. Clinton can not win without Obama’s independent support and maybe Obama can not either. Obama has a lot of time to swing the viva vote but it will take more than ads to take the gender vote from Clinton, that will take a change of heart.
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Posted by: warriornation on Feb 11, 2008 11:10 AM
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You automatically assume that the people imprisoned are terrorists. Liberals want to protect the rights of the people accused because everybody deserves those rights.
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Posted by: Ardie on Feb 11, 2008 12:10 PM
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Above all, I don't thing the Democrats should permit themselves to get "framed" by the war as to whom might be better running it. They should make the war a referendum on "peace" in the Middle-East and Central Asia. Do you want peace or not? in other words. "Peace", by the way, is a word Republicans have a visceral disgust towards.
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White Males Don't Rule the Democratic Party
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It will be a cold day in hell before I let the right's opinion of Democratic candidates influence my vote. Those extremists have spent the past sixteen years smearing Hillary Clinton and if Obama is the candidate they will make his life miserable. So screw them. Vote Democrat. Any Democrat is superior to any republican whack job.
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McCain can try to distance himself from Bush but he will fail
Posted by: Reich Wingers NightMare on Feb 11, 2008 7:37 PM
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Because WE have the John McCain / George Bush girly man embrace photo.
Now won't THAT look sweet on billboards and in television spots!!!
Now won't THAT look sweet on billboards and in television spots!!!
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LEAP asks McCain a Question
Posted by: meetmeineleusis on Feb 11, 2008 8:37 PM
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McCain and LEAP
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McCain "No We Can't" Video
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I received an email from a buddy for this really funny "No We Can't" video for John McCain. It's actually more scary than funny but I thought you all might enjoy it anyway.
John McCain "No We Can't" Video
John McCain "No We Can't" Video
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More of the same
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with McCain.
I have no respect for this man. He gave up all what dignity he did have by sucking up to bu$h.
McCain has a hair trigger. He's crippled and represents the conservanazi republikans to a TEE.... lame old white men with money and no conscience.
Buck Fush.
I have no respect for this man. He gave up all what dignity he did have by sucking up to bu$h.
McCain has a hair trigger. He's crippled and represents the conservanazi republikans to a TEE.... lame old white men with money and no conscience.
Buck Fush.
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"He eventually spent five and a half years in various prison camps, three and a half of those in solitary confinement, and was repeatedly beaten and tortured before he was finally released..."
No one wants to ask if there are any psychological problems that may impair McCain's ability to manage a nuclear arsenal. Just like no one wanted to ask about Bush blowing up frogs.
Maybe this time we should ask.
No one wants to ask if there are any psychological problems that may impair McCain's ability to manage a nuclear arsenal. Just like no one wanted to ask about Bush blowing up frogs.
Maybe this time we should ask.
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Democrats need to respect that Sen. McCain is not a knuckle-dragging, Neanderthal conservative but the wingnuts have a quarter of a billion dollars raised to trash our nominee.
This article gives McCain a lot more credit than I do. I think he is the biggest sellout and hypocrite in congress.
He didn't volunteer to get shot down and he has ridden that experience for his whole political life. It doesn't make him a hero - and his sellout and vote with his party on the torture issue - along with his campaign support for Bush shows his utter lack of integrity.
This article gives McCain a lot more credit than I do. I think he is the biggest sellout and hypocrite in congress.
He didn't volunteer to get shot down and he has ridden that experience for his whole political life. It doesn't make him a hero - and his sellout and vote with his party on the torture issue - along with his campaign support for Bush shows his utter lack of integrity.
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Posted by: Democritus on Feb 11, 2008 5:21 AM
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Mr. Raymond's gloss on McCain is just another fairy tale. People like Raymond and other Republican operatives have now been touting the "great American hero" line about McCain. Tony Blankley, in a recent op-ed column called McCain "the greatest American hero since Eisenhower to run for president."
This is sheer nonsense. Being a reckless pilot and suffering five and a half years as a POW is not enough to make one a hero. McCain would probably not have survived his confinement for a week if the North Vietnamese hadn't discovered that his father was a four-star admiral in charge of CINCPAC. Thus, he became a valuable prisoner; and even though he was physically abused he was kept alive. McCain fans like to downplay the fact that he "broke" under torture and admitted that he was an "air pirate." Others are not so kind. Jack McLamb, a decorated Vietnam vet, claims that other POWs called McCain "Songbird," because of his willingness to give information to his captors. Whether McLamb's story has merit is questionable, but it's enough to pour cold water on the "American hero" mantra.
The facts about McCain show that he would be Bush on steroids. He's for privatizing Social Security, promoting school vouchers to privatize our education system, extending Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy, supporting the death penalty, repealing Roe v. Wade, and continuing our occupation of Iraq for even "100 years." He was also urging the bombing North Korea, but wiser heads prevailed, and Jimmy Carter was able to negotiate a deal with the North Koreans.
In short, despite Mr. Raymond's claims, McCain is a rash, war-mongering arch-conservative. You can look all of this up in McCain's bio on Wikipedia.
What is puzzling to me are the attacks made on McCain by right-wingers such as Limbaugh, Hannity, and Coulter. He is one of their own, but they don't seem to know it. What I fear is that these clever Republican operatives are playing "rope-a-dope" with us, hoping that they can con independents and moderates into voting for him. But beware, those of you who think that there's not a dime's worth of difference between McCain and the eventual Democratic nominee. If McCain were ever elected, you would have more people dropping out of the middle class, all for the profit of the war-driven elite on Wall Street.
This is sheer nonsense. Being a reckless pilot and suffering five and a half years as a POW is not enough to make one a hero. McCain would probably not have survived his confinement for a week if the North Vietnamese hadn't discovered that his father was a four-star admiral in charge of CINCPAC. Thus, he became a valuable prisoner; and even though he was physically abused he was kept alive. McCain fans like to downplay the fact that he "broke" under torture and admitted that he was an "air pirate." Others are not so kind. Jack McLamb, a decorated Vietnam vet, claims that other POWs called McCain "Songbird," because of his willingness to give information to his captors. Whether McLamb's story has merit is questionable, but it's enough to pour cold water on the "American hero" mantra.
The facts about McCain show that he would be Bush on steroids. He's for privatizing Social Security, promoting school vouchers to privatize our education system, extending Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy, supporting the death penalty, repealing Roe v. Wade, and continuing our occupation of Iraq for even "100 years." He was also urging the bombing North Korea, but wiser heads prevailed, and Jimmy Carter was able to negotiate a deal with the North Koreans.
In short, despite Mr. Raymond's claims, McCain is a rash, war-mongering arch-conservative. You can look all of this up in McCain's bio on Wikipedia.
What is puzzling to me are the attacks made on McCain by right-wingers such as Limbaugh, Hannity, and Coulter. He is one of their own, but they don't seem to know it. What I fear is that these clever Republican operatives are playing "rope-a-dope" with us, hoping that they can con independents and moderates into voting for him. But beware, those of you who think that there's not a dime's worth of difference between McCain and the eventual Democratic nominee. If McCain were ever elected, you would have more people dropping out of the middle class, all for the profit of the war-driven elite on Wall Street.
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Posted by: carbon-based on Feb 11, 2008 5:27 AM
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Excellent article - McCain is the democrats nightmare for sure.
But his "scandles" pale in comparison to Hillary scandles so I'm sure she would never go there. Obama just doesnt have enough experience to have scandles, save drug use and working for slum lords.
The young voters see the drug use as a connection so it's no big deal.
And to those same voters Vietnam and McCains ordeal was a history book lesson, which many may have been high that day and don't really remember it too well.. (no problem because our current President doesn't seem to have remembered it well either - there's those drugs again!)
I like McCain alot because he will fight his party and stand up for what he believes. But I think my vote will go for Obama, not because he is a better speaker but because I think in the end he will behave the same as McCain in many issues and just may be able to sway world opinion our way again.. I'm not sure McCain can manage that!
We should have had McCain 8 years ago!
But his "scandles" pale in comparison to Hillary scandles so I'm sure she would never go there. Obama just doesnt have enough experience to have scandles, save drug use and working for slum lords.
The young voters see the drug use as a connection so it's no big deal.
And to those same voters Vietnam and McCains ordeal was a history book lesson, which many may have been high that day and don't really remember it too well.. (no problem because our current President doesn't seem to have remembered it well either - there's those drugs again!)
I like McCain alot because he will fight his party and stand up for what he believes. But I think my vote will go for Obama, not because he is a better speaker but because I think in the end he will behave the same as McCain in many issues and just may be able to sway world opinion our way again.. I'm not sure McCain can manage that!
We should have had McCain 8 years ago!
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Obama vs. McCain
Posted by: MakingSense on Feb 11, 2008 5:38 AM
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Posted by: MakingSense on Feb 11, 2008 5:38 AM
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The article's writer concludes that a larger than anticipated number of Democratic males would not vote for Obama because of his race. I question if the writer has any grounds for this assertion. A Gallup poll from Septmeber 2007 indicated that only 5% of all Americans would not vote for a presidential candidate because he was black. That's a mighty small portion of the general electorate, and even a smaller portion of that number would affiliate with the Democratic party. If the presidential matchup became McCain vs. Obama, I doubt race would play any significant role (Obama's mother was a white woman from Kansas).
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The "Straight Talk Express" derailed four years ago.
Posted by: KeepsonTickn on Feb 11, 2008 5:41 AM
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I had a lot of respect for Senator McCain at one time. I might have voted for him had he been nominated in 2000. But then he sold out on everything he had ever said or done before and worked so diligently to get Bush reelected in 2004, when it had become all too clear what the Bush administration was doing to this country. Had he just sat that one out I could still believe in his integrity.
Can McCain expect us to believe that he put the "straight talk express" back on the rails for this election?
Can McCain expect us to believe that he put the "straight talk express" back on the rails for this election?
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McCain is no hero!!!
Posted by: xvictor on Feb 11, 2008 6:01 AM
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Posted by: xvictor on Feb 11, 2008 6:01 AM
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He was merely a victim of misdirected foreign policy.
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Mr. Raymond is a RACIST for writing this kind of trash !
Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 11, 2008 6:20 AM
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Look, Obama may be a corporate "nicety" just like Hillary and McCain but to suggest that white Democrats may not vote for Obama just because he's black is DISGUSTING and as a white male Christian I find this trash offensive ! It's not like Hillary will fare any better !
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Posted by: Midway54 on Feb 11, 2008 6:28 AM
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All of us remember the political mayhem committed on McCain in South Carolina in 2000 by the current Puppet's thugs led by Rove, Ralph "religious conman" Reed, the crackpots of Bob Jones University, all of whom were aided and abetted by the Bible-thumping Redneck Dupes' whispering campaign not just against McCain but against all of his family.In 2000 McCain was a different man, favored by Independents and many Democrats.
Then came the deplorable photo of McCain, while being embraced by the Puppet a couple of years ago, shown resting his head on the Puppet's left shoulder. This very act was a nauseating display of craven obsequience. Worse, he at the same time was turning his back on his family members who had been so savaged by the said crew of misfits without conscience. Now, to really demonstrate how lacking both in self-respect and in his ability to predict public reaction, McCain incredibly welcomes the advice of Rove, who in effect led the charge with a political meat cleaver in the South Carolina 2000 mayhem.
This guy is saying the right things: Continuing the quasi-fascist gun barrel policy of the ultra-Right in control of the Republican Party; continuing the comfort and welfare of the Plutocrats with deeper, frequent, and hopefully permanent tax cuts; cutting spending with the concealed objective of shredding the safety net social programs of medicare, medicaid, and social security, excluding of course the necessary spending to bail out failed corporations, to subsidize business entities, and to reward U. S. companies that move their manufacturing jobs and service components (legal, medical, and customer relations) overseas.
The middle and lower middle class Americans finding it ever harder to survive economically and for that matter politically need to listen to McCain and his vision for America. With him in the White House, this Country will be burdened with a third term Bush II administration. Do we really want that...indeed, can the Country survive the continuation of the devastation wreaked upon this Country by the incompetence and downright indifference of the Bush Gang?
Then came the deplorable photo of McCain, while being embraced by the Puppet a couple of years ago, shown resting his head on the Puppet's left shoulder. This very act was a nauseating display of craven obsequience. Worse, he at the same time was turning his back on his family members who had been so savaged by the said crew of misfits without conscience. Now, to really demonstrate how lacking both in self-respect and in his ability to predict public reaction, McCain incredibly welcomes the advice of Rove, who in effect led the charge with a political meat cleaver in the South Carolina 2000 mayhem.
This guy is saying the right things: Continuing the quasi-fascist gun barrel policy of the ultra-Right in control of the Republican Party; continuing the comfort and welfare of the Plutocrats with deeper, frequent, and hopefully permanent tax cuts; cutting spending with the concealed objective of shredding the safety net social programs of medicare, medicaid, and social security, excluding of course the necessary spending to bail out failed corporations, to subsidize business entities, and to reward U. S. companies that move their manufacturing jobs and service components (legal, medical, and customer relations) overseas.
The middle and lower middle class Americans finding it ever harder to survive economically and for that matter politically need to listen to McCain and his vision for America. With him in the White House, this Country will be burdened with a third term Bush II administration. Do we really want that...indeed, can the Country survive the continuation of the devastation wreaked upon this Country by the incompetence and downright indifference of the Bush Gang?
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McCain is really dangerous
Posted by: oxheadone on Feb 11, 2008 6:35 AM
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Posted by: oxheadone on Feb 11, 2008 6:35 AM
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He is a biggest supporter of the Iraq war, which is destroying the US internationally, domestically, and militarily. The election will be a test of support for the war. Since Clinton voted for the war she is the weakest candidate against McCain. It would help if the democrats could impeach President Bush; the charges are freely available in many published sources. I do not understand why they haven't done it by now.
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Democrats should love McCain
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Feb 11, 2008 7:10 AM
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Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Feb 11, 2008 7:10 AM
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He'll bring you gun control, open borders, and more war (which, judging by their actions, dems love war as much as repugs). He'll even raise taxes, through the mechanism of currency devaluation, just like Bush has done. McCain is a liberal's wet dream.
google:
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"Will the Real McCain Please Sit Down"
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google:
keating five
songbird mmcain
mccain bonanno
mccain gook
"Will the Real McCain Please Sit Down"
admiral john sidney mccain USS Liberty
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Pro-choice is a concept missing from McCain's brain
Posted by: leemiller38 on Feb 11, 2008 7:18 AM
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Posted by: leemiller38 on Feb 11, 2008 7:18 AM
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Mr. McCain is firmly an anti-choice Republican with a no compromise voting record. Obama and Hillary are both squarely pro-choice. McCain will appoint more right wingers to the courts to try to overturn Roe v Wade. This issue didn't defeat Bush in 04, but it should have and it should sink McCain this time around. The democrats would be smart to use it as an issue rather than be apologetic about abortions.
Overpopulation and nuclear weapons are the two biggest world's problem, but don't expect any candidate to acknowledge this. Bush just cut 130+ millions from an already anemic family planning budget. The Bush administration's. pro-life stance for family planning is fewer condoms and more cluster bombs.
Overpopulation and nuclear weapons are the two biggest world's problem, but don't expect any candidate to acknowledge this. Bush just cut 130+ millions from an already anemic family planning budget. The Bush administration's. pro-life stance for family planning is fewer condoms and more cluster bombs.
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McCain is VERY beatable!
Posted by: left-leaning-libertarian on Feb 11, 2008 7:31 AM
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Posted by: left-leaning-libertarian on Feb 11, 2008 7:31 AM
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I'd say all anybody'd have to do is run a clip of McCain humming a la Dr. Strangelove that weird little riff on "Barbara Ann" which I believe went something like "Bomb-bomb-bomb, bomb-bomb Iran. . .etc etc" or offer up the Seantor's statement about staying in Iraq for "a hundred years." NOT what people are looking for and certainly not what most people want to vote for!
I disagree with the author of this piece; in fact, McCain, having pretty much sewn up the GOP nomination is actually trying to dive to the RIGHT to molify and shore up the "base." This will prove his undoing with the independents and moderates who have given him much of his momentum, and be extremely helpful to whomever the Democrats nominate.
Unlike the rancorously-divided GOP, the Democrats are all pretty much willing to unite behind and work for our nominee, whether that be Obama or Clinton. The GOP won't be quite so happy or enthusiastic and I can see a lot of them sitting this one out, chosing idelogical purity over victory. Also, don't rule out a right-wing third party insurgency from some of the religious wing-nuts if "Huckleberry Thin" doesn't get on the ticket (McCain would be a FOOL to let Huck anywhere near the VP slot).
I've also noticed that McCain has no poker face whatsoever; when he gets p***ed off it shows, and he seems to get p***ed off A LOT, especially when somebody crosses him or an audience won't go along with his line of BS. A few clips of that hair-trigger temper in action on CNN or ABC and people will start having serious second thoughts about this guy with his finger on the nuclear button, or his hands on any of the levers of power.
Gotta tell ya; I'm feeling better and better about the Democratic chances in this election with every passing day!
I disagree with the author of this piece; in fact, McCain, having pretty much sewn up the GOP nomination is actually trying to dive to the RIGHT to molify and shore up the "base." This will prove his undoing with the independents and moderates who have given him much of his momentum, and be extremely helpful to whomever the Democrats nominate.
Unlike the rancorously-divided GOP, the Democrats are all pretty much willing to unite behind and work for our nominee, whether that be Obama or Clinton. The GOP won't be quite so happy or enthusiastic and I can see a lot of them sitting this one out, chosing idelogical purity over victory. Also, don't rule out a right-wing third party insurgency from some of the religious wing-nuts if "Huckleberry Thin" doesn't get on the ticket (McCain would be a FOOL to let Huck anywhere near the VP slot).
I've also noticed that McCain has no poker face whatsoever; when he gets p***ed off it shows, and he seems to get p***ed off A LOT, especially when somebody crosses him or an audience won't go along with his line of BS. A few clips of that hair-trigger temper in action on CNN or ABC and people will start having serious second thoughts about this guy with his finger on the nuclear button, or his hands on any of the levers of power.
Gotta tell ya; I'm feeling better and better about the Democratic chances in this election with every passing day!
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ALL ABOUT IMAGE
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 11, 2008 7:58 AM
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 11, 2008 7:58 AM
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Your picture of McCain is glamorous and for the most part true. His story is a good one. But most of it does not include credentials that would make him a good president. War hero, yes. But he has no knowledge of the economy, no negotiating skills and zero patience. We've had a president in office who fits that same description and where did it get us? We need leadership, not an "interesting life story". Thankks, ANNA
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Are Democrats Being Snowed
Posted by: gabbyone on Feb 11, 2008 8:15 AM
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Posted by: gabbyone on Feb 11, 2008 8:15 AM
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Yesterday, one of the top Republican campaign operatives said there are a number of
people in the party who disagree strongly with this idea being floated that they can beat Clinton. However, he hopes Democrats continue to feel that way because they know they can beat Obama. He said Republicans are arguing among themselves whether to embrace her, trash her or just let the pollsters keep putting it out there that she can't win because they are not sure which will send more Democrats to vote for Obama. He said that any one who has gone up against the Clintons as Republicans knows they are hard to beat. When asked what advice he would give Clinton, he said she doesn't need any. When asked what advice he would give Obama, he said, don't believe you will attract many Republicans or Independents once the election gets here. If you look at the small number of caucus votes for Obama based on total Democratic and Republican population, it is ludicrious to think he will win Red states. In Kansas, only 10% of Democrats participated in the caucus. His advice to John McCain - your Vice Presidential choice is very important.
people in the party who disagree strongly with this idea being floated that they can beat Clinton. However, he hopes Democrats continue to feel that way because they know they can beat Obama. He said Republicans are arguing among themselves whether to embrace her, trash her or just let the pollsters keep putting it out there that she can't win because they are not sure which will send more Democrats to vote for Obama. He said that any one who has gone up against the Clintons as Republicans knows they are hard to beat. When asked what advice he would give Clinton, he said she doesn't need any. When asked what advice he would give Obama, he said, don't believe you will attract many Republicans or Independents once the election gets here. If you look at the small number of caucus votes for Obama based on total Democratic and Republican population, it is ludicrious to think he will win Red states. In Kansas, only 10% of Democrats participated in the caucus. His advice to John McCain - your Vice Presidential choice is very important.
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Dave Ginsberg
Posted by: dginsberg109 on Feb 11, 2008 8:16 AM
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In re What the Dems Need to Know....
One thing which needs to be remembered and mentioned often is McCain's repeated statement, that he foresees the need for an American occupation of Iraq for "fifty or a hundred years."
If anyone thinks this would be anything like the "occupation" of South Korea, take another think. This is part and parcel of a civil war, which has gone on for centuries. The South Koreans recognized, that we saved them from the North Koreans. Without us, they could be starving like their relatives in the North.
DAVE GINSBERG
One thing which needs to be remembered and mentioned often is McCain's repeated statement, that he foresees the need for an American occupation of Iraq for "fifty or a hundred years."
If anyone thinks this would be anything like the "occupation" of South Korea, take another think. This is part and parcel of a civil war, which has gone on for centuries. The South Koreans recognized, that we saved them from the North Koreans. Without us, they could be starving like their relatives in the North.
DAVE GINSBERG
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How naive
Posted by: mbruton on Feb 11, 2008 8:25 AM
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Posted by: mbruton on Feb 11, 2008 8:25 AM
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McCain has been forced upon the repug party as a lame duck meant to throw the fight to the radical corporate media's favorite conservative Hillary. Once again the sheeple will be presented with a "choice" of one corporate suck-up conservative or another. To pretend any differently is ignorant beyond belief.
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How naive
Posted by: mbruton on Feb 11, 2008 8:26 AM
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Posted by: mbruton on Feb 11, 2008 8:26 AM
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McCain has been forced upon the repug party as a lame duck meant to throw the fight to the radical corporate media's favorite conservative Hillary. Once again the sheeple will be presented with a "choice" of one corporate suck-up conservative or another. To pretend any differently is ignorant beyond belief.
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The choice couldn't be more clear
Posted by: willymack on Feb 11, 2008 8:41 AM
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Posted by: willymack on Feb 11, 2008 8:41 AM
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If you want more of the same, vote for Mc Cain. If you want to see an effort to restore our democracy, vote Democratic. It's that easy.
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I can see now
Posted by: thirdmillenium on Feb 11, 2008 10:16 AM
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Posted by: thirdmillenium on Feb 11, 2008 10:16 AM
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the political commercials run by the Dem candidate showing McCain responding to "How do we beat the bitch" with "Good Question!" or offering the joke of "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." Any hint of a grandfatherly benign image will be destroyed.
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Loose lips sink ships
Posted by: solrev on Feb 11, 2008 11:02 AM
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Posted by: solrev on Feb 11, 2008 11:02 AM
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Beware the ides of McCain, because now they are upon you. If it was between McCain and Clinton, I will bet on McCain. It is really simple independents-McCain 1 and independents-Clinton 0. What about the war in Iraq, that has already been pushed off the front burner by the economy and any opportunity for the high ground has been squandered by the demon congress, well that’s about it. Do not make the mistake, you just watched the repuk TV and radio mouths make, when they thought they were masters of the universe. The key is going to be the Texas primary, where Obama can get no independent support. Clinton can not win without Obama’s independent support and maybe Obama can not either. Obama has a lot of time to swing the viva vote but it will take more than ads to take the gender vote from Clinton, that will take a change of heart.
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Yes, of course
Posted by: warriornation on Feb 11, 2008 11:10 AM
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Posted by: warriornation on Feb 11, 2008 11:10 AM
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You automatically assume that the people imprisoned are terrorists. Liberals want to protect the rights of the people accused because everybody deserves those rights.
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» Link McCain with Bush
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» Link McCain with Bush
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A thought
Posted by: Ardie on Feb 11, 2008 12:10 PM
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Above all, I don't thing the Democrats should permit themselves to get "framed" by the war as to whom might be better running it. They should make the war a referendum on "peace" in the Middle-East and Central Asia. Do you want peace or not? in other words. "Peace", by the way, is a word Republicans have a visceral disgust towards.
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White Males Don't Rule the Democratic Party
Posted by: jbowen43 on Feb 11, 2008 2:57 PM
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It will be a cold day in hell before I let the right's opinion of Democratic candidates influence my vote. Those extremists have spent the past sixteen years smearing Hillary Clinton and if Obama is the candidate they will make his life miserable. So screw them. Vote Democrat. Any Democrat is superior to any republican whack job.
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McCain can try to distance himself from Bush but he will fail
Posted by: Reich Wingers NightMare on Feb 11, 2008 7:37 PM
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Because WE have the John McCain / George Bush girly man embrace photo.
Now won't THAT look sweet on billboards and in television spots!!!
Now won't THAT look sweet on billboards and in television spots!!!
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LEAP asks McCain a Question
Posted by: meetmeineleusis on Feb 11, 2008 8:37 PM
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McCain and LEAP
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McCain "No We Can't" Video
Posted by: georgezepeda on Feb 12, 2008 12:33 PM
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Posted by: georgezepeda on Feb 12, 2008 12:33 PM
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I received an email from a buddy for this really funny "No We Can't" video for John McCain. It's actually more scary than funny but I thought you all might enjoy it anyway.
John McCain "No We Can't" Video
John McCain "No We Can't" Video
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More of the same
Posted by: TexasVietVet on Feb 13, 2008 6:03 PM
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with McCain.
I have no respect for this man. He gave up all what dignity he did have by sucking up to bu$h.
McCain has a hair trigger. He's crippled and represents the conservanazi republikans to a TEE.... lame old white men with money and no conscience.
Buck Fush.
I have no respect for this man. He gave up all what dignity he did have by sucking up to bu$h.
McCain has a hair trigger. He's crippled and represents the conservanazi republikans to a TEE.... lame old white men with money and no conscience.
Buck Fush.
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