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Election 2008

Hillary Wins New Hampshire, But the Presidential Race Has Just Begun

By Steven Rosenfeld and Don Hazen, AlterNet. Posted January 9, 2008.


After New Hampshire, voters will have a month for a second look at the top candidates.
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Americans have long complained they don't get a chance to pick their presidential candidates after Iowa, New Hampshire and other early primaries. This year will be different. For both parties, but especially for Democrats, the nominee will not be chosen until at least February 5th, when 22 states and Democrats abroad vote.

In the interim, there will be four more weeks of intense campaigning and scrutiny, especially as the Clinton and Obama campaigns jockey for front-runner status, as the Clinton campaign retools and focuses on big states, as the Obama campaign takes lessons from its narrow loss in New Hampshire, and as the Edwards and Richardson campaigns make final attempts to win in close-to-home states -- Nevada and South Carolina -- and shape the debate.

Clinton's razor-thin victory in New Hampshire was a surprise only because the pollsters were so out of touch with the voters -- off by 10-15 points in a number of instances. But New Hampshire is a state where Hillary was long favored and had much of the Democratic party establishment backing her. New Hampsphire was always the place for the "comeback kid scenario," reprising Bill Clinton's experience in 1992, when he came in second to Paul Tsongas.

One of the problems for Obama was that he had two candidates to fight with. Bill Clinton, who is popular in the state, went after Obama with a surprising ferocity, as did the Clinton camp as a whole. As Arianna Huffington documents, they threw everything at Obama but the kitchen sink in the last few days: "So now Hillary's sputtering campaign strategy has shifted to telling voters, 'Whatever you don't like, that's what Obama is.' Clinton and her surrogates are attacking from every direction, hoping something will stick. The attacks are as varied as they are contemptible. ... Put on your galoshes, the mud is mighty thick."

Obama's New Hampshire staff, in contrast, made some mistakes, focusing on canvassing and calling voters in the final days instead of increasing visibility with supporters on the street holding signs. Pollsters were reminded that some whites who say they will vote for an African-American candidate do not follow through. In some locations, there were problems with voting machines; however, Obama campaign insiders did not feel they affected the outcome.

New Hampshire, like Iowa, had record voter turnout. That growing public engagement will encounter a political fight where, increasingly, the gloves will come off. The broad questions in the Democratic debate -- Obama's message of inclusiveness and hope versus Clinton's emphasis on toughness and experience -- will only sharpen. The shine and gloom will come off both of the leading candidates and, hopefully, the party's ultimate nominee will be better for it.

As the contests move state by state, what can progressives expect? Interviews with contacts on the campaigns and in progressive groups on Tuesday night offered these tidbits:

Michigan -- The state's primary is January 15, and only Hillary Clinton and Dennis Kucinich will be on the ballot. That is because the Democratic National Committee penalized the state for moving its primary up and stripped it of delegates. The Kucinich campaign will likely use the contest to put impeachment on the map, said one leading progressive organizer with ties to the candidate.


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Steven Rosenfeld is a senior fellow at Alternet.org and co-author of "What Happened in Ohio: A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election," with Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman (The New Press, 2006).

Don Hazen is the executive editor of AlterNet.

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The author overlooks one recent development:
Posted by: CharliePatton on Jan 9, 2008 12:21 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The shift in California's primary.

As a result, California will select the next Democratic Party presidential nominee.

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Arianna has been on Hillary's case since day one.
Posted by: Sojourner on Jan 9, 2008 1:25 AM   
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Whatever she *documents* needs to be put in the context of schoolgirl spite. Some girls just can't tolerate others being up for prom queen.

What we do know is that MSM are like birds on a telephone wire. Whichever way one flies, the others are likely to follow. Consequently what we need on the left is more of the kind of balance we get on AlterNet.

Indeed, we have a long way to go. And no campaign in recent memory has been as productive of good political debate as we have seen so far. Let's keep it the great contest it has become.

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Schizophrenic Strategy
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Jan 9, 2008 1:46 AM   
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The Clinton campaign's schizophrenic strategy worked. To counter Hillary's cold image she wept, and at the same time went on the attack with Bill and her staff bashing Obama. So she can have it both ways...it made me think of an old Elton John song. I guess the public's stated aversions to the war and to negative campaigning didn't count for much.

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» To Be Fair Posted by: EKSwitaj
» RE: Schizophrenic Strategy Posted by: setterwoman
concerned citizen
Posted by: skingk on Jan 9, 2008 2:26 AM   
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I think the weeping was the larger factor in getting so many women out to vote. It was touching until I thought of who she is, NAFTA, etc.

Though no doubt, the effort by the rest of her campaign had its effect.

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» RE: concerned citizen PLUS Posted by: TarryFaster
Hillary's tears tactic can be used only once
Posted by: Christie on Jan 9, 2008 3:35 AM   
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Muskie teared up during his presidential campaign over a nasty attack on his wife and it helped do him in. Apparently a female candidate can tear up over the prospect of losing with positive results. However, I estimate that a female presidential candidate gets only one tearing up. So, whatever happens on the campaign trail, I believe that Hillary has cried her last tears.

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Why Obama Lost New Hampshire
Posted by: Sonal on Jan 9, 2008 3:37 AM   
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It’s past midnight, January 9th 2008. The press has declared New Hampshire primary winners and losers. Now the talking heads, most of whom are older white males (including the acclaimed xenophobe Lou Dobbs) are ‘pondering’ Obama’s loss. What happened? I have to admit that I’m enjoying their rehashed narratives of Clinton reaching out to her ‘heart’—a word she used twice in the first five seconds of her victory speech. The punditry and the blogosphere have been buzzing with the success of Clinton’s ‘feminine’ side, and the candidate herself alluded to ‘finding her voice’ in New Hampshire. All of this nonsense is very disconcerting to me as a feminist, for reasons that would take more time to delve into than I have right now.
I’m writing this post to put a damper on all of this rubbish—and to challenge my readers to pierce the punditry. Look at the pre-primary polls, even up to the last minute. Obama was practically declared the winner before the first vote—I remember seeing the numbers on TV, but cannot find them now. If I remember correctly, the press was buzzing over Obama’s nearly 10-point lead over Clinton. So what happened? Here is what happened: New Hampshire has no real victor but racism.
As the candidates, including the very strategic Obama know, talking about racism makes the collective American white stomach churn. White Americans absolutely refuse to engage in any discussion that of racism—after all, with a black man running for President, aren’t ‘we’ (we = white liberals who grudgingly support affirmative action programs and have black co-workers and friends) beyond that? The rhetoric of racial equality refuses to even analyze the numbers. I’ve found myself anxiously searching for the pre-New Hampshire numbers and asking (aloud) that the pundits flash them on my TV screen for a second so that we can take in the incredible discrepancy between what people said they would do and what they actually did at the polls.
According to Swarthmore political scientist Keith Reeves, in his prescient 1997 book Voting Hopes or Fears?: White Voters, Black Candidates, and Racial Politics in America, the Obama victory in Iowa and subsequent loss in New Hampshire were both predictable, given that the Iowa caucus is basically a large, open, public poll, and the New Hampshire primary is a private vote. To very succinctly summarize Reeve’s theory which he corroborates with rich data, white voters will tell pollsters that they will vote for a black candidate, but in the voting booth, they alter their vote. The result: instead of voting their electoral hopes, white voters let their racist fears determine their ballot choices.
Among the media glitterati, only the sensible and articulate Anderson Cooper raised this theory. He received three quick rebuts that were largely non-sequiturs, repeating the same nonsense about Hillary’s femine side coming through for her. Donna Brazile considered Cooper’s theory, but did not seem to have the will to respond, simply mentioning Harold Ford’s similar pre- and post election positions.
Obama is the black candidate that I hypothesized would challenge Reeves' theory-- I believed that Obama's insistence on not discussing racial inequality could mitigate the white populace's propensity to view him in racial terms. (The 'maybe-they've-stopped-noticing-he's-black-theory) In addition, as former presidential contender Biden pointed out-- albeit in a very racist manner--Obama appeals to white Americans because he does not conform to their racist stereotypes of blacks. Through my own skeptical political science lens, I doubt that Obama would have made it this far had he adopted a more critical position on racial inequality. Yet I am tempted anyway to pose an even more skeptical question. Has Obama earned this ‘loss’ by unabashedly avoiding the subject of racial inequality in America?

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» RE: Why Obama Lost New Hampshire Posted by: C-Dawg Blake
» Iowa Posted by: aonghus36
by an edge
Posted by: talkville on Jan 9, 2008 3:50 AM   
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On the democratic side, Clinton won by an edge; the republicans opted militarist as always. New Hampshire opted for fear, insecurity and the status quo, but narrowly!!

Clinton or McCain in the executive will continue unabated business as usual, with perhaps a few crumbs on the domestic side -- mainly in order to neutralize and control the increasingly obvious differentials in conditions currently existing here. But this is New Hampshire (and Iowa demonstrated different tendencies!).

Keep on keeping on, I say; and keep fear and insecurity at bay -- there's a better world possible this year!

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» RE: by an edge Posted by: Bibsi
let's not forget that the primaries are just as wide open to dishonesty and manipulation
Posted by: Suzon on Jan 9, 2008 3:50 AM   
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as the presidential election itself. The same anti-democratic forces which produced corrupt results in 2000 and 2004 will have seen the selection of the Democratic candidate as crucial. Make it a two horse race between a black man and a woman: genius!

Hillary, bright though she undoubtedly is, could be an even worse president than Bush if she seeks to out-macho the boys.

Where have I seen Obama before? In the 1979 film of Jerzy Kosinski's novel Being There. Peter Sellers played Chance the gardener, who succeeded by being a blank space where everyone could project their own ideas. Chance assured everyone, "All is well and all will be well".

I prefer Edwards' take of all is not well. The corporations must be taken on. I have a personal grievance, the suffering and premature death of a close friend brought about by the insurance industry and Big Pharma. But we all live on the razor's edge when corporations and government are as one (Mussolini's definition of fascism).

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IDOECON
Posted by: ehensley on Jan 9, 2008 4:02 AM   
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The entire media spectrum is twisting itself in knots to explain the difference in polls before vote, showing Obama winning by double digits, and actual vote. No mystery. Obama lost because of race. The difference between Iowa and New Hampshire was standing up in public (Iowa) versus private choice in the voting booth (New Hampshire). This has happened repeatedly to Black candidates. Look at Harold Ford in Tennessee Senate race in '06.

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» Nonsense! Posted by: Sojourner
Hillary a Parrot for Bush and Israel
Posted by: herbal on Jan 9, 2008 4:22 AM   
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Hillary and all the others need to be evaluated according to their past voting records and forget image and the posturing and disowning of past record. Hillary has tried to avoid accountability for her 100% Bush agenda war voting record for 7 years. She is a corporatist (Mussilini definition, see wikipedia) who is but a stealth Republican. What a joke, 'experience' and 'change'. See her performance by keying into U tube:" Hillary Clinton AIPAC" to see her endorse nuclear attack on Iran (fooled again?) and then key in Rev. Hagee, the Christian Zionist cultist to see him use identical rhetoric to Hillary's. She is a lost cause and a vote for death.

But campaign for nice man Obama? He is misinformed and is showing sings of having joined the Corporatists. Obama needs to be rejected because of his endorsement for Nuclear Energy.

There is absolutely no long term comparison between Nuclear and any other polluting source of energy. Why? The new Nuclear proponents are only short term thinkers. Can Asteroid miner and Nuke shill Comby take responsibility for the 146,000 year half life of the most virulently carcinogenic, Plutonium? Can the US government, the longest living Republic government in history (only 230 years) that has now come to an end, make any guarantees? They are absurd to ignore the fact that all waste and toxins of radionucleides are absolutely and unavoidably cumulative. They will raise the background radiation levels worldwide. Review the research of epidemiologist, Rosalie Bertells, MD, on effects of low level radiation. Death.

The solution mainly is a social one. Mankind must take responsibility for not confusing wants with needs. Energy use must first be reduced. There simply is no excuse for promoting Nuke.
Obama may not be a lost cause, if voters hit him hard on the campaign trail. But he is a compromiser.

Better Edwards for the straightest shooter who is electable. In fact, Edwards polls the best against the Republicans and may be the most electable with in the general election.

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» RE: Right On ....Vote Edwards Posted by: MeridaLady
» The Nuclear Energy Option Posted by: Basenjis
jonnie rae
Posted by: jonnie rae on Jan 9, 2008 5:03 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Actually Obama and Hilary split the delegate count 9 to 9 and of the super delegates, Obama got 3 to Hilary's 2, so I am not sure her 2% victory could be called a true "win." She sent out mailings and robocalls that said that Obama would overturn Roe v. Wade. Deliberately lying about his abortion record. He is pro-choice and has a 100% positive rating from Planned Parenthood. I think that's why so many women turned out. I would like the media to focus on this more than her cry moment, or Bill's rant about "fantasy." You know, if Obama criticizes her, he is accused of ganging up on the poor woman, if he tries to stay above the fray and the dirty politics, the s...t she throws sticks. It's a Catch 22 situation. But it is a long race and I do believe the truth will out, and that is what the American people want -- the truth.

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» RE: jonnie rae Posted by: cmaciain
It's the economy stupid
Posted by: mike1997 on Jan 9, 2008 5:20 AM   
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How come no one is talking about the economic differences between Iowa and New Hampshire? The economy in Iowa is under great stress and voters in both parties voted for relative outsiders who are pushing for big changes in the way the economy is run. New Hampshire's economy is doing just fine thank you and voters in both parties voted for candidates who promise to tweak the status quo and make it somewhat more efficient. Doesn't it strike anyone else that perhaps this difference is more important than Hilary's near tears or Mitt's hair?

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» RE: It's the economy stupid Posted by: kabac55
A little objectivity, please
Posted by: Raybo on Jan 9, 2008 5:40 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Just for some perspective, I am for Kucinich first, then Edwards, then Obama and last Clinton. However, the tone of your article, Mr. Rosenfeld, seemed biased and off-balance. This was nowhere more evident than in erroneously calling her margin of victory over Obama "razor thin". The New York Times reported that with 96% of precincts in, Hillary had 110,550 to Obama's 102,883 votes. That's 7 1/2 % more, not razor thin, and, it seems, comfortable enough to justify the jubilation in the Clinton camp.

Ray Teurfs

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» RE: A little objectivity, please Posted by: C-Dawg Blake
Super Delegates
Posted by: warrior woman on Jan 9, 2008 6:07 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
A friend forwarded this link to me, interesting to say the least.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/edcut?pid=266130

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» RE: Super Delegates Posted by: peacefullaim
» RE: Super Delegates Posted by: Basenjis
» Nevertheless Posted by: PaulC
» RE: Nevertheless Posted by: peacefullaim
NH Democrats give Republicans a big gift
Posted by: SufiLizard on Jan 9, 2008 6:21 AM   
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I remember a book that came out not too long ago called "What's the Matter With Kansas" or something like that?

Right now it seems a more pertinent question would be "what's the matter with New Hampshire?"

No matter who you prefer in the Democratic primary any objective assessment would HAVE to agree that Hillary is the best hope for Republicans.

Not one of the Republican candidates has the potential to really energize the entire Republican base. Romney gets the corporatists and Huckabee gets the fundamentalists, McCain gets the war mongers. But none of them has the ability to really unite the Republican base.

But the Democrats have ONE candidate who can certainly unite the Republican base -- Hillary Clinton.

Personally I favor Kucnich, with Edwards as my second choice. I fear an Obama presidency would be as big a disaster for America as another Clinton presidency, but he'd be better than a Republican.

In theory Hillary would probably be slightly better than a Republican too, but she makes that Republican scenario much more likely to happen.

My state's primary is so late it doesn't even matter, but to those of you in states that actually get a say in the matter, please use your heads.

If you like Hillary's politics, please vote for Obama, you'll get pretty much the same results without helping Republicans. If you want change vote for Kucinich or Edwards or if you just can't decide between change and more corporatism go ahead and vote for Richardson.

But please, don't give Republicans a big, gift-wrapped present by voting for Hillary. There's just too much at stake!

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What will Ron Paul supporters do?!?!?
Posted by: war_on_tara on Jan 9, 2008 6:26 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Ron Paul supporters have been flooding AlterNet for months, haranguing us non-stop, telling us that independents in New Hampshire would drive Dr. Paul to a surprising result.

New Hampshire voters have spoken, and they have said Ron Paul and his supporters suck. They have said he sucks even worse than Rudy Giuliani and his supporters in their New York Yank-me ballcaps and jackets.

And now, the blessed silence!

What will Ron Paul supporters do? Take up needlepoint or model trains?

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» See "Joe" below Posted by: war_on_tara
» Sorry about the VOG... Posted by: Raj
» RE: See "Joe" below Posted by: Joe
» RE: See "Joe" below Posted by: Joe
» I'm not a Ron Paul supporter, but Posted by: hellofriends
A Real Race
Posted by: Southern Gal on Jan 9, 2008 6:40 AM   
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The media and the pundits can say what they want, the voters made the call. This hopefully has become a real race for the White House.We need to bring the progressive issues to the table and try to get responses from the candidates.

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» RE: A Real Race Posted by: VZEQICVA
» Is it up to the voters? Posted by: AtomicNYC
HC "win" gives break even delegates...big deal- no policies will change
Posted by: scott.gregory on Jan 9, 2008 7:09 AM   
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There is no longer any difference in the policies among the candidates and poitical parties
All of the remaining (contending)candidates are bought-and-paid-for corporate party sleaze. The only good thing about the NH primary is that it offers the scant outside chance of a open convention. In that case, after the first vote, with no candidate getting a majority, there might be an outside chance of getting a candidate who represents more than just the top 2-3% of Americans, the very rich business owners and investors. But that same group will probably cobble-together a charade of a fix for that chance and prevent it from happening.
The turnout shows that many Americans are still deluded that progressive change is possible thru the election system. This is good in the sense that more people, once they have participated in large numbers and seen that the policies don't change, will come to the same realization of those who worked the 2004 and 2006 election cycles - that change is not possible thru our rigged election system. Once that really sinks into the minds of the 90%+ Americans who have been poltically disenfranchised, and are now no more than political chaff, then maybe the process of difficult, serious, probably very nasty and contentious (hopefully non-violent) change can begin. I's still some time off. My take is that a significantly greater number of Americans are going to have to worry about where the next few meals are coming from. That could happen with a looming inflatonary depression caused by central bank corruption and consequent loss of "reserve currency" status for the U.S. dollar. It is all so sad, because it is so avoidable. And when the non-violent demands for change from the disenfranchised 90%+ of Americans materializes, it will be met with violence and repression (Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act -- already has passed the House) by the wealthy ruling class. It will not be a good time to live for the American people

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Send a message in the primary by voting Edwards
Posted by: MeridaLady on Jan 9, 2008 7:21 AM   
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I have heard so many of you state on this site that you vote for a candidate in the Primary to send a message, although the candidates haven't a chance in hell of winning.

You are wasting an important vote!!

If you don't take a stand now and send a clear message about change, you won't have a choice in the November election...... again!!!!

Read Edwards speaches and check out his website and his issues. If you haven't already done so you will pleasantly surprised.

You all need to get it together now or your choices will be business as usual with Hilary or Obama!!!!!!!

Neocons don't want and the main stream media will continue to ignore Edwards, unless we shove him down their throats!!!!!!

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Are we REALLY sure she won
Posted by: AnnCKeirns on Jan 9, 2008 7:52 AM   
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They vote on touchscreens in NH. I'm not at all convinced that she won. If she did, then I am terribly disappointed with NH voters, especially the women. How can you vote for her just because she is a woman? 13 years ago she put forth a not-for-profit, single-payer universal health care plan and got axed for it. Now her campaign is bought and paid for by insurance companies, health management organizations and pharmaceutical companies and her current plan insists that everyone carry health insurance. I don't know how that is going to be enforced. Then there is her "all options are on the table" re Iran and we'll still have a military presence in Iraq when she leave office. How we can we support this??? ON THE ISSUES SHE DOES NOT DESERVE TO WIN. I won't vote for her just because we are both female. I will vote for Kucinich on the ISSUES!!!!

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» RE: Are we REALLY sure she won Posted by: VZEQICVA
» Giuliani will win Posted by: Sean Bos
Clearance Blouse
Posted by: babka on Jan 9, 2008 8:22 AM   
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a small correction for your headline:

"Hillary Wins New Hampshire, But the Presidential Race Has Just Begun"

make that: AND the Presidential Race Has Just Begun.

Extraordinary Rendition: Outsource/Impeach BushCheney

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Iowa and NH voted for war
Posted by: ScottP on Jan 9, 2008 8:35 AM   
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The proven solid anti-war candidates (Kucinich, Gravel, and Paul) all lost by huge margins, while solid pro-war candidates and ones who voted for the war in at least large majority of the over dozen votes in Congress took the lead. Iowa and NH either voted for war, or don't care about it enough to read the candidate's voting records.

I don't care who they call a "leader", I won't vote for war supporters, period. I'm not a lemming and I won't follow them over the cliff when my turn comes.

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Republican-owned Diebold counts the votes in New Hampshire
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jan 9, 2008 8:55 AM   
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Using proprietary software and equipment. The large offset between pre-election polling and the outcome is very troubling, but then there are the exit polls, which so far seem to match the vote count. Still, people whould be very concerned about vote rigging in this election.

It happened in 2000 in Florida, it seems to have happened in 2004 in Ohio, and you can be that the Republicans will be rolling out every dirty trick in the book. They think they can beat Clinton in the fall, so they're pushing for her.

For a variety of viewpoints, see ALL Diebold ALL the Time - It's the New Hampshire Primary - Michael Collins

NH Primary: Pre-Election Polls Wildly Different Than Results Announced for Clinton/Obama, Brad Blog

Diebold and New Hampshire, Drunkard's Lamppost

So far, if the exit polls match the vote counts, that's some evidence that there wasn't massive fraud - however, as the last link above says,

"For democracy to work, the system must be transparent and maintain the confidence of its participants. Proprietary voting machines fail both these tests."

Diebold provides all the optical scan and vote counting equipment to New Hampshire. They are controlled by Republican political interests - see Voting Machine Controversy by Julie Carr Smyth, 2003

"O'Dell attended a strategy pow-wow with wealthy Bush benefactors - known as Rangers and Pioneers - at the president's Crawford, Texas, ranch earlier this month. The next week, he penned invitations to a $1,000-a-plate fund-raiser to benefit the Ohio Republican Party's federal campaign fund - partially benefiting Bush - at his mansion in the Columbus suburb of Upper Arlington.

The letter went out the day before Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, also a Republican, was set to qualify Diebold as one of three firms eligible to sell upgraded electronic voting machines to Ohio counties in time for the 2004 election.


Out of control.

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Never underestimate a woman's tears...
Posted by: adempatriot on Jan 9, 2008 9:14 AM   
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Yes, no one but Hillary knows how real her weepiness was. But in a way, it doesn't matter, because it won her the primary- assuming the vote-counting was not fixed.
At over 55 years old, I've been manipulated by weepy women with an agenda too many times to count, and Hillary's "Hallmark Moment" made me suspicious immediately. I think her "tears" were more calculated than real; or else it was one heck of a convenient coincidence, that right when she acted weepy and needy, (implication: "All the boys are bullying me! Waa Waaah!!"), and informed us she really DID have a heart -or whatever she said- and sort of, almost, kind of, sort of cried, she got the votes.
Sympathy votes.
And of course, she knew Barack couldn't cry and get away with it.
Extremely clever.
Also, what about the "Iron My Shirt" person? Who was that? Was that real, or a plant from the Hillary camp? The Clinton campaign should PAY that person for helping her win! (Maybe they already did).
Dang, I miss Steve Irwin. And where's Captain Hook when ya need him? We have a crying crocodile running for the Democratic nomination.
p.s. I hope that by now, Hillary has taken her dose of Tears-B-Gon.

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And Markos on Daily Kos was predicting
Posted by: cjohnson44 on Jan 9, 2008 9:23 AM   
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a double digit Obama win. What an ass. Can someone find this guy a boyfriend to occupy his time?

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Daily Kos was probably looking at the pre-election polls:
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jan 9, 2008 9:44 AM   
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Poll numbers:
Suffolk-WHDH --Obama +8.3
American R.G. --Obama + 5.0
Reuters-Zogby --Obama +9.0
Rasmussen -----Obama +13.0
CNN/WMUR ----Obama +9.0
Mariat -------- Obama +8.0
CBS News ------Obama +7.0

However, the poll numbers were off ONLY for the Clinton and Obama predictions. They were very close for all the other races.

Candidate ----- Prediction ----- Outcome (Zogby)
Edwards ---------17-----------17
Richardson -------5------------5
Kucinich ---------2 ------------1

McCain ----------36-----------39
Romney --------- 27 -----------31
Huckabee --------10 -----------11
Paul -------------9 -----------8

Something doesn't look right here. Most likely explanation? Republicans view Clinton as the candidate most likely to be defeated, and are trying to throw the election to her.

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