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War Crime Trials for Bush? Try Fat Fees on the Speaking Circuit
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He started two disastrous wars that have left millions dead or displaced, sat by while a major American city was destroyed, oversaw the evaporation of trillions of dollars in wealth and will leave office as one of the most loathed figures in American history.
One would expect a man like George W. Bush -- one who has single-handedly destroyed America's image in the world -- to slink off into well-deserved ignominy. But there's little chance of that. Instead, he's poised to line his pockets on the lecture circuit, a man who's led a famously unexamined life ready to pontificate about world events for fat fees.
He crassly told journalist Robert Draper that his chief post-presidential intention is to "give some speeches, just to replenish the ol' coffers." Other members of his disastrous administration are already "replenishing" their coffers.
Of course, Bush's coffers are not what most would consider depleted; he's leaving office with assets valued somewhere between $8 million and $20 million. But once he embarks on the lecture circuit, he'll be able to augment that fortune considerably. Bush will be able to command between $100,000 and $150,000 per speech, says Lourdes Swarts, president of 21st Century Speakers, a prominent speaking agency. For talks to overseas audiences, the figure rises to something closer to a quarter-million dollars. "The speaking market is wide and expands to overseas audiences," says Swarts.
Mark Updegrove, author of the 2006 book Second Acts: Presidential Lives and Legacies After the White House, says Bush will be a huge draw. "There is no shortage of organizations willing to pay for the prestige of the presidency, regardless of how controversial a president is," he said. Swarts agrees: "President Bush will be very popular," she said.
But President Bush is not very popular with the American people, raising the question of who will be willing to pay him the extravagant sums he'll demand. Fortunately for him, the groups he has enriched during his eight disastrous years in the White House remain committed to him. "Keep in mind that in the corporate world, the president has an 80 percent approval rate, and they are the ones that will hire or fire a speaker," says Swarts. Many of the groups that hire former presidents are business organizations, and they can be counted on to keep Bush in high demand on the lecture circuit.
There are also a few countries in which he remains popular in -- popular destinations like Albania, the Philippines and Tanzania.
Lest anyone doubt Bush's prospective popularity as a speaker, former members of his administration provide correction. Ari Fleischer, the former White House spokesman who infamously warned Americans to "be careful what they said" following the 9/11 attacks, commands $15,000 to $25,000 per event.
Interested parties can choose between two standard speeches. In the first, "America and Israel: The path to Stability in the Middle East," listeners can hear Fleischer "take sides" in the conflict; he "credits Israel as the only democracy in the Middle East and notes the sacrifices they have made for peace. He asks where the moderate Arabs are, and he's sharply critical of the Palestinian leadership's failure to confront terror." There is no mention, apparently, of Bush's promise of a Palestinian state.
Alberto Gonzalez, the former attorney general who was forced to resign in disgrace for his role in the U.S. attorneys scandal, commands over $25,000 a pop to speak to like-minded audiences. His listing on the Greater Talent Network's Web site understatedly describes him as someone who "played a vital role in the administration's fight in the war on terror and addressing the changing role of the Department of Justice post 9/11."
Other administration officials also grab sizable speaking fees. John Ashcroft gets $25,000. Donald Rumsfeld gets $65,000 and is very popular. Karl Rove gets $50,000 and pimps himself out more aggressively than most. His Web site features dozens of testimonials from satisfied customers, mostly business groups.
"I think I can honestly say I have never met a more dynamic and gracious person," says Ballard W. Cassady, Jr., of the Kentucky Bankers Association.
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Bush's victims--the tortured,libeled, spied-upon, unfairly prosecuted, deprived of their loved ones by his warmongering or their constitutional rights--should sue and sue till he has nothing left. If he's not held accountable under criminal law, at least justice will in some sense be done.
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Posted by: colleenwhalen on Jan 20, 2009 2:19 AM
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So why don't we organize HUGE embarrassing demonstrations at every single paid public speaking engagement Bush appears at?
If we organize consumer boycotts against every darn corporation who hires Bush to speak - it would make consumers stop buying that corporations products. The economy is in ruins and corporations are in no position to alienate their customers.
Bush will never be punished and go on war crimes trial for the Geneva Convention violations - Bush committed war crimes against humanity. Obama has no intention of prosecuting Bush for illegal wire taps, nor will Obama prosecute Bush for lying about WMD which did not exist - primarily because Democrat Senators/Congresspersons were complicit in rubber stamping - voting yes on nearly every piece of Bush legislation passed.
If the public turns out in huge demonstrations when Bush does paid public speaking for corporations - we could humiliate that rat bastard back to his brand new mansion in Dallas and he would retire from public life.
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Posted by: MyLeftFoot on Jan 20, 2009 5:08 AM
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Like going to hear pianist with no arms...
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Posted by: 2thepoint on Jan 20, 2009 5:40 AM
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Second, war#1 as after a government and a group that just attacked this country. totally justified and one that Obama will continue.. War #2, who knows..I thought it was a big mistake to put boots on the ground but then I don't access to the intel that he and congress did!
Third, those "millions" killed (a very doubtful number) were mostly killed by muslims. They seem to hate themselves as much as they hate us!
One just might wake up some day and find like Truman who left office with a 23% approval rating and who is now looked upon one of our better presidents, Bush may just wind up like that!
Now, as for the most incompetent President we've ever had. Hoover or Carter - it's a toss up. The one who caused the most unjustified deaths due to war, LBJ of course. The one who ran the most criminally inflicted administration, well, Bill and Hillary. monica was just the tip, sort of speak!
The best - toss up, FDR (despite his concentration camps), he gave the country hope when it had none, JFK, Cuban missile crises - the only decision he made that counted (I'm forgetting the bay of pigs for now) and Reagan, again gave the country hope when Carter was nailing the "coffin" shut and restored our economy and military not to mentioning being instrumental in ending the cold war.
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Posted by: Caesar77 on Jan 20, 2009 5:51 AM
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What a sad country we live in.
I would pay $150, 000 to see him hang, but not to speak.
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Posted by: don_alejandro on Jan 20, 2009 5:57 AM
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I suspect Bush has issued classified pardons that are now locked in Cheney’s safe in some undisclosed location, probably with auto-gag clauses…
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Posted by: gandolfshep on Jan 20, 2009 7:54 AM
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Jail them and confiscate all their and their family and friends assets and return them to the people of America who is the rightful owners.
I am sick of 8 years of lies, deceit and theft.
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Posted by: EdinIowa on Jan 20, 2009 11:40 AM
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Why in the hell doesn't anyone in the media call out Rep. Frank and Sen. Dodd for the complete lack of oversight and accountability of these funds? Both of them were giving us assurance after assurance back in September that the taxpayer's dollars would be safe-guarded, that this was not a Wall Street bailout/giveaway.
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Posted by: ds1st on Jan 20, 2009 1:37 PM
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We will see where Obama is in 4 years.
I hope Obama stops Barnie “marble mouth” Frank and his ilk from putting the USA in debt through ill conceived government programs.
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http://www.veteransforpeace.org/Resolution_index.vp.html
I would then ask you to scroll down to "W" where you will find:
"War Crimes - Resolution On Prosecuting George W. Bush, Dick Cheney And Other Bush Administration Officials For War Crimes, Crimes Against Peace and Crimes Against Humanity"
Which ends:
"Therefore Be It Resolved that Veterans For Peace will take every appropriate measure on our own and in coalition with others to insure that George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and responsible members of their administration are prosecuted for war crimes, crimes against peace and crimes against humanity before any court claiming jurisdiction in this country or abroad, for as long as they shall live.
Approved at the 2008 VFP national convention "
I don't think there's gonna be many appearances Bush and friends make without someone reminding everyone who they are at the very least. Remember Rummy having to flee Paris? VFP are not the only folks who intend to see justice done. Someone somewhere is going to get them into a dock sooner or later.
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Posted by: dustdevil on Jan 20, 2009 3:00 PM
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I'm looking for him to flee to Paraguay in the near future.
The secret service protection will probably not go with him but he can always call on Blackwater.
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Posted by: rickiey on Jan 20, 2009 5:25 PM
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And they are worth over 110 million dollars.
How exactly, is that different from the CEO's of failed corporations going to congress to bailout the companies, while keeping their ludicrous salaries and bonuses?
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Posted by: DrBrian on Jan 20, 2009 1:05 AM
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Bush's victims--the tortured,libeled, spied-upon, unfairly prosecuted, deprived of their loved ones by his warmongering or their constitutional rights--should sue and sue till he has nothing left. If he's not held accountable under criminal law, at least justice will in some sense be done.
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Posted by: colleenwhalen on Jan 20, 2009 2:19 AM
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So why don't we organize HUGE embarrassing demonstrations at every single paid public speaking engagement Bush appears at?
If we organize consumer boycotts against every darn corporation who hires Bush to speak - it would make consumers stop buying that corporations products. The economy is in ruins and corporations are in no position to alienate their customers.
Bush will never be punished and go on war crimes trial for the Geneva Convention violations - Bush committed war crimes against humanity. Obama has no intention of prosecuting Bush for illegal wire taps, nor will Obama prosecute Bush for lying about WMD which did not exist - primarily because Democrat Senators/Congresspersons were complicit in rubber stamping - voting yes on nearly every piece of Bush legislation passed.
If the public turns out in huge demonstrations when Bush does paid public speaking for corporations - we could humiliate that rat bastard back to his brand new mansion in Dallas and he would retire from public life.
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Posted by: MyLeftFoot on Jan 20, 2009 5:08 AM
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Like going to hear pianist with no arms...
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Posted by: 2thepoint on Jan 20, 2009 5:40 AM
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Second, war#1 as after a government and a group that just attacked this country. totally justified and one that Obama will continue.. War #2, who knows..I thought it was a big mistake to put boots on the ground but then I don't access to the intel that he and congress did!
Third, those "millions" killed (a very doubtful number) were mostly killed by muslims. They seem to hate themselves as much as they hate us!
One just might wake up some day and find like Truman who left office with a 23% approval rating and who is now looked upon one of our better presidents, Bush may just wind up like that!
Now, as for the most incompetent President we've ever had. Hoover or Carter - it's a toss up. The one who caused the most unjustified deaths due to war, LBJ of course. The one who ran the most criminally inflicted administration, well, Bill and Hillary. monica was just the tip, sort of speak!
The best - toss up, FDR (despite his concentration camps), he gave the country hope when it had none, JFK, Cuban missile crises - the only decision he made that counted (I'm forgetting the bay of pigs for now) and Reagan, again gave the country hope when Carter was nailing the "coffin" shut and restored our economy and military not to mentioning being instrumental in ending the cold war.
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Posted by: Caesar77 on Jan 20, 2009 5:51 AM
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What a sad country we live in.
I would pay $150, 000 to see him hang, but not to speak.
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Posted by: don_alejandro on Jan 20, 2009 5:57 AM
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I suspect Bush has issued classified pardons that are now locked in Cheney’s safe in some undisclosed location, probably with auto-gag clauses…
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Posted by: gandolfshep on Jan 20, 2009 7:54 AM
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Jail them and confiscate all their and their family and friends assets and return them to the people of America who is the rightful owners.
I am sick of 8 years of lies, deceit and theft.
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Posted by: EdinIowa on Jan 20, 2009 11:40 AM
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Why in the hell doesn't anyone in the media call out Rep. Frank and Sen. Dodd for the complete lack of oversight and accountability of these funds? Both of them were giving us assurance after assurance back in September that the taxpayer's dollars would be safe-guarded, that this was not a Wall Street bailout/giveaway.
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Posted by: ds1st on Jan 20, 2009 1:37 PM
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We will see where Obama is in 4 years.
I hope Obama stops Barnie “marble mouth” Frank and his ilk from putting the USA in debt through ill conceived government programs.
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Posted by: Mad Mal on Jan 20, 2009 1:55 PM
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http://www.veteransforpeace.org/Resolution_index.vp.html
I would then ask you to scroll down to "W" where you will find:
"War Crimes - Resolution On Prosecuting George W. Bush, Dick Cheney And Other Bush Administration Officials For War Crimes, Crimes Against Peace and Crimes Against Humanity"
Which ends:
"Therefore Be It Resolved that Veterans For Peace will take every appropriate measure on our own and in coalition with others to insure that George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and responsible members of their administration are prosecuted for war crimes, crimes against peace and crimes against humanity before any court claiming jurisdiction in this country or abroad, for as long as they shall live.
Approved at the 2008 VFP national convention "
I don't think there's gonna be many appearances Bush and friends make without someone reminding everyone who they are at the very least. Remember Rummy having to flee Paris? VFP are not the only folks who intend to see justice done. Someone somewhere is going to get them into a dock sooner or later.
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Posted by: dustdevil on Jan 20, 2009 3:00 PM
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I'm looking for him to flee to Paraguay in the near future.
The secret service protection will probably not go with him but he can always call on Blackwater.
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Posted by: rickiey on Jan 20, 2009 5:25 PM
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And they are worth over 110 million dollars.
How exactly, is that different from the CEO's of failed corporations going to congress to bailout the companies, while keeping their ludicrous salaries and bonuses?
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