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Election 2008

Hey Barack, Don't Forget: "You Gotta Dance With Them What Brung Ya"

By Don Hazen, AlterNet. Posted November 11, 2008.


Blacks, Latinos, single women, young voters, union members and gay people elected Obama. How will he represent them in his staff and his policies?
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Barack Obama was elected by a broad constituency, more diverse and less white than any in American history, and arguably the most progressive. A new majority, sure to grow in the future, has emerged in this election, as minority voters registered and turned out for Obama in record numbers. Ninety-five percent of African-American voters supported him; younger voters became more engaged in politics and voted decisively on behalf of the new president; union members and gays voted for Obama in high numbers; and the single-women vote, which included a huge share of minority women, came down overwhelmingly for the new president at the rate of 70 percent 29 percent -- compared with married women, who went for McCain 50 percent to 47 percent, creating a huge, record-breaking "marriage gap" of 44 points among women.

Furthermore, the decisive Obama victory should put to rest the enduring myth, perpetrated by innumerable media pundits, that the United States is a conservative country. Poll after poll, as well as long-term research, underscores that on every issue, the electorate is far more progressive -- and getting more progressive all the time -- than what people have experienced over the past eight Bush years, and even during the Clinton administration.

If the Obama administration is going to be in tune with its voters, there will need to be massive policy changes in every aspect of government. The power of lobbyists, corporations and overrepresented constituencies, like gun owners, senior citizens, white males, married women and the wealthy, are by necessity going to need to cede ground to a more populist rainbow confection that is the Obama coalition.

On the other hand, the pressure of the multiple international and national crises Obama faces is motivating him to staff up as quickly as is feasible. This, combined with his penchant for smart, savvy, experienced insiders, is leading Obama to bring in a host of Clinton administration operatives into his administration, with many more on the queue. This early trend is so obvious that it led New York Times writer Peter Baker to observe that Obama "faces the challenge of building an administration that does not look like a third term for former president Bill Clinton. ... Obama reached deep into the Clinton fold ... naming John Podesta, a former Clinton chief of staff, to lead his transition team. He has asked another former Clinton aide, Representative Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, to be his own chief of staff and is said to be choosing between two former Clinton veterans to be his National Security adviser."

Molly Ivins, the late and revered populist Texas journalist and humorist, was fond of saying, "You Gotta Dance With Them What Brung Ya." Time will tell how well Barack Obama knows how to dance with his constituencies. Will he stay true to his change-oriented supporters who brought him to his crowning moment, who are ready to do any number of dances with him, from the funky chicken to the mashed potato, from crumping to salsa, from the jitterbug to the lindy? Or will the Illinois senator stick to the old insider dance card and slow dance with those who have enjoyed the fruits of the dance floor for so long?

Of Course, Obama Is Obama!

Any discussion of diversity and change in the new Obama administration has to start with the president-elect himself. A half-African, half-white Midwesterner with an Arab-sounding middle name, mostly raised by his grandmother in Hawaii 5,000 miles from the U.S. mainland, Obama will be our new president after conducting a campaign that was extraordinary in so many ways. This single event has provided enormous inspiration and hope, not only in the United States but also across the globe. The Obama presidency, by its very existence, speaks volumes for diversity and offers a new reality in the United States that so many, feeling hopeless for so long, essentially thought was impossible.

Still, voters deserve some credit, too. In a country known for its propaganda-style media, its large chunks of misinformed and living-in-denial voters, deep-seated racism and huge discrepancies in income and education, it took a near-perfect performance from the candidate and a leap of faith from millions of voters not used to taking chances; many voters did something very different than they had before in their lives. And the candidate performance was near ideal. Obama was the most effective, unflappable, articulate candidate in memory, while his campaign was probably the best organized in U.S. history.


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Looking for an Obama quote/position...
Posted by: nihilozero on Nov 11, 2008 12:20 AM   
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I recall Obama stating something that I really liked. It was to the
effect that everyone has a civic duty/responsibility to keep him
honest and to make sure he keeps his promises. Can anyone tell me
where I can find this quote, give me a link, a video, whatever?
There is likely more than one out there. I plan on being aware of
what he does as president and I think this quote will be a reminder of
how we should monitor all of the politicians and try to keep them
honest.
Nihilo Zero

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Enough bickering between groups - there are larger problems these days.
Posted by: gunboat diplomat on Nov 11, 2008 12:40 AM   
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Obama had a wider draw than just the above groups, for example Religious voters back Obama, LA Times, Nov 9

There is a big difference between the relaxed tolerant approach to religion and the rigid fundamentalist approach (guess who went for Obama)?

Exit polls showed the dramatic effect: Obama won 43% of voters who said they attend church weekly, eight percentage points higher than 2004 Democratic nominee John F. Kerry. Among occasional worshipers, Obama won 57%, 11 percentage points higher than Kerry, according to the National Election Pool exit survey.

When looking at how members of different faiths voted, the movement among Catholics is striking. They sided 52% to 47% with President Bush in 2004. But this year, they went 54% to 45% for Obama. That means Obama had more support among Catholics than did Kerry, himself a Catholic, by seven percentage points.


Not only that, a lot of people whose main concerns were related to energy, the economy and the environment came out and voted for Obama. That's a central constituency that Obama needs to work for - because that affects everyone in the country.

Speaking of which, consider giving Nancy Pelosi a call and letting her know you support Waxman's bid to replace Dingell on the Energy Committee: http://www.house.gov/pelosi/ (415) 556-4862 (SF Office).

The economy, the environment, and the energy supply - that's what Obama should focus on. Maybe the rest of us, blacks, gays, whites, asians, women, old people, young people - maybe we can all pledge to get along and help solve those three pressing problems.

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This is the part that will be hardest for many of us...
Posted by: -matti on Nov 11, 2008 12:44 AM   
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...the part where good people try to make their beliefs about Obama come true.

Oh my brothers and sisters, I am afraid you were deceived.

It is like watching a train wreck isn't it?

If only we could look away.

november5.org

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So far, his selections have been only white men
Posted by: Blink on Nov 11, 2008 3:45 AM   
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Biden as VP, Emmanual as COS, Axelrod as Chief Advisor, Podesta as leader of transition team...and Summers and Kerry being considered for Sec of Treas and Sec of State, respectively. I have to laugh! It's going to be fun watching the O-man kick his supporters in the teeth when he goes back on his word as he is prone to do for political expediency, just as he did McCain after promising to use public financing and then reneging (can I use that term now?) and likewise telling Hillary to shove it as far as assistance with her campaign debt is concerned.

It was also really funny to hear about the Greek newspapers trumpeting the fact that America will no longer be controlled by the Jews and then see Obama appoint Emmanual, Axelrod, and be strongly considering Summers for Treasury. Yes, it is going to be quite amusing watching Obama being attacked by "the ones who brung him."

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I think you are forgetting something...
Posted by: MizuInOz on Nov 11, 2008 3:58 AM   
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You need to look up the DLC and discover what the tenets are of that organisation and who the membership is.

Then you will know why certain people are in the inner circle...

That said, I suspect that NM Gov. Bill Richardson will be tapped for UN Ambassador. I really think his honesty would be a breath of fresh air for fellow members of the UN.

As far as who is who by race - I thought we were getting over that and it is based upon the right man or woman for the job.

When I hire personnel - I look at qualifications, commitment, confidentiality and willing to follow Einstein's Law of Success. which is:

Success = A + B + C; wherein A = Work hard (DWYSYWD - my addition) and B = Play hard and C = Keep your fasking mouth shut! (True story)

In my business, the ability to keep your mouth shut (confidentiality) is the most important factor.


I am sure that President - elect Obama looks at credentials as the most important factor.

Give the racism and reverse racism a break!

If you can't, take a look inside.

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lets see!
Posted by: vconcerned on Nov 11, 2008 4:13 AM   
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Barac Obama will have a new catch phrase soon that will last his whole term "its going to take time"because if you beleive that he's the boss,your all mad.As soon as he steps inside the white house he will be told in no uncertain terms"you do what we say and you'll do just fine son"because money controls the USA and money means the likes of Rockerfeller and his buddies.They call the shots,cause they sell the guns and bombs that have cost the usa the prosperity they were used too.

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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Posted by: blogoffanddie on Nov 11, 2008 4:24 AM   
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Obama, though preferable to McCain, is not the saviour everyone thinks he is. With Zbigniew Brzezinski, the mastermind behind Obama manipulating events – Obama will ultimately disappoint those who believe in him most.

Obama unconditionally endorsed the $700 billion bailout of Wall Street – which is a bailout of the wealthy on Wall Street not the US economy. Obama speaks of change but reveals himself as just another corporate bootlicking toadie. It’s business as usual.

Watch, Obama will soon hire the same guys who screwed it up to fix it.

If at first you don't succeed, destroy all the evidence.

http://blogoffanddie.wordpress.com
http://theimpolitecanadian.wordpress.com/

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I encourage anybody who feels similarly to contact the Austrian Embassy.
Posted by: Squarehead on Nov 11, 2008 4:37 AM   
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I read something appalling in today's newspaper. I encourage anybody who feels similarly to contact the Austrian Embassy. See below:

Dear Sir/ Madam, May I express my disquiet at the reported comments of a senior Austrian journalist, Mr Klaus Emmerich. The history of Austria, and of some of it's people, is too painful to allow these racist comments to pass without some kind of censure.

This morning, I received a mail from a business associate, describing the merits of an Austrian designed and manufactured solar heat system; that is representative of the many good things about your country. The blinkered racism, (casual in its naivety, dishonest in it's lack of intellectual rigour) of Mr Emmerich deserves, I suggest, a mention in your parliament. (Both National Council & Federal Council) For the stupidity of this man to go unremarked upon, will be bad for Austria in many ways.

I hope you can agree and perhaps convey this message on to relevant diplomatic personnel and politicians

Thank you for your time. Yours,

From the Irish Times, 11th November 2008
"DEREK SCALLY in Berlin

AUSTRIAN PUBLIC broadcaster Orf has distanced itself from a senior commentator who suggested Barack Obama and "all blacks are not as far advanced in the civilisation process".

Klaus Emmerich, a former US correspondent and one-time editor-in-chief of Orf news, said in a discussion programme: "I don't want to let myself and the western world be directed by a black man."

The 80 year old, an institution in Austrian news circles, continued: "When I say that, it's a racist remark, correct, no question." Mr Emmerich said he "still consider[s] the Americans racists who must be going through a really bad period to elect a black man and a black, very good-looking woman, into the White House".

"That would be like if the next chancellor [in Austria] was a Turk. That'd be something," he said.

He went on to speculate about whether Mr Obama's election marked the "retreat" of "white America".

Orf has distanced itself from Mr Emmerich's remarks and "every kind of discrimination" but has declined to end the contract of the station's leading US pundit.

Later, Mr Emmerich took an even harder line in a newspaper interview, calling Mr Obama's victory "a highly disturbing development" because "blacks are not as far advanced in the civilisation process nor in their political progress". Mr Obama, he said, possessed a "a diabolic ability to present his politics so effectively".


Sehr geehrter Herr gnädige Frau, Mai drücke ich meine Besorgnis an den berichteten Anmerkungen eines älteren österreichischen Journalisten aus, Herr Klaus Emmerich. Die Geschichte von Österreich und von einigem von it' s-Leute, sind zu schmerzlich, diesen rassistische Anmerkungen ohne irgendeine Art Kritik überschreiten zu lassen. Heute morgen, empfing ich eine Post von einem Geschäftspartner und beschrieb die Verdienste eines österreichischen entworfenen und hergestellten Solarhitzesystems; der ist Repräsentant der vielen guten Sachen über Ihr Land. Der blinkered Rassismus, (beiläufig in seiner Naivität, unehrlich in it' s-Mangel an intellektueller Härte) von Herrn Emmerich verdient, schlage ich vor, eine Erwähnung in Ihrem Parlament. (Beides Nationalrat & Der Bundesrat) für die Dummheit dieses Mannes, unremarked auf zu gehen, ist für Österreich in vielerlei Hinsicht schlecht. Ich hoffe, dass Sie dieser Mitteilung relevantes diplomatisches Personal und Politikern an zustimmen und möglicherweise übermitteln können Danke während Ihrer Zeit. Ihr,

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Machine translation of above
Posted by: Squarehead on Nov 11, 2008 4:39 AM   
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Von den irischen Zeiten 11. November 2008 "

DEREK SCALLY in Berlin
ÖSTERREICHISCHE ALLGEMEINE Rundfunkstation Orf hat sich von einem älteren Kommentator überholt, der Barack Obama und " vorschlug; alle Schwarzen sind nicht, wie weit fortgeschritten in das Zivilisation process". Klaus Emmerich, ein ehemaliger US-Korrespondent und einmaliger Hauptherausgeber von den Orf-Nachrichten, sagte in einem Diskussionsprogramm:

"I don' t möchten sich und die westliche Welt durch ein schwarzes man." verwiesen werden lassen; Die 80 Einjahres, eine Anstalt in den österreichischen Nachrichtenkreisen, fortgesetzt worden: " Wenn ich den sage, it' rassistische Anmerkung S.-A., korrekt, kein question." Herr Emmerich sagte ihn " betrachten Sie noch [s] die Amerikanerrassisten, die einen wirklich schlechten Zeitraum durchlaufen müssen, einen schwarzen Mann und ein Schwarzes zu wählen, sehr schöne Frau, in das weiße House".

"Das würde wie sein, wenn der folgende Kanzler [in Österreich] ein Türke war. That' d ist etwas, " er sagte. Er fuhr fort, über zu spekulieren ob Herr Obama' s-Wahl markierte das " retreat" vom " weißes Amerika". Orf hat sich von Herrn Emmerich' überholt; s Anmerkungen und " jede Art discrimination" aber hat es abgelehnt, den Vertrag des station' zu beenden; s, das US-Pandit führt. Später verfolgte Herr Emmerich eine sogar härtere Richtung in einem Zeitungsinterview und rief Herrn Obama' an; s-Sieg " ein in hohem Grade beunruhigendes development" weil " Schwarze sind nicht, wie weit fortgeschritten in den Zivilisationsprozeß noch in ihr politisches progress".

Herr Obama besaß, sagte er, ein " eine diabolische Fähigkeit, sein Politik effectively" so darzustellen;.

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The problem is.....
Posted by: 2thepoint on Nov 11, 2008 4:44 AM   
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thinking that he HAS to dance with those that brung him! He doesn't and shouldn't.

The reality is he should be dancing with a broad spectrum of the nation.. To say we are a liberal nation, or a conservative nation marginalizes approximately half the nation..

Not exactly a responsible way to govern and one that perpetuates the partisan "business as usual" method that is responsible in large part for the dysfunctional administrations we often see!

I'd say he really is interested in change if I saw some independents/conservatives in posts in his government.. How progressive would that be and what a message that would send to the rest of Washington.

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» RE: The problem is..... Posted by: freelyb
You wish, Don
Posted by: Teller on Nov 11, 2008 5:45 AM   
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Too bad Ivins isn't here to balance out the Obamamania. Can't stop thinkin' about tomorrow, boys and girls?

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He's already said he's going to try to be a president "for everyone".
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Nov 11, 2008 5:55 AM   
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The Obama presidency, by its very existence, speaks volumes for diversity...

The smallest minority is 1, therefore his cabinet will be as "diverse", by default, as Obama himself. We can hope he makes wise choices, selecting folks who will advise him thoughtfully. How one chooses to identify themselves should be at the very bottom of the list of "qualifications" for a spot advising the new pres, and abstract notions of diversity should be irrelevant entirely. After all, following the logic of people like Hazen--overly concerned about skin color, number of X chromosomes, and etc.--the U.S. enjoyed the most "diverse" cabinet in history under one George Walker Bush. Yeah, set the bar high, huh?

It will be vital to start making a few very good decisions for the country as soon as the new administration takes office. Excellence should be the goal, not a dog-and-pony show for the benefit of a few small-minded, big-winded people that busy themselves over personal identity.

Smart, pragmatic people and smart, idealistic folks, people focused on costs, and people focused on goals, people focused on risks and people focused on potential--now that would be a triumph of "diversity".

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I don't think you can include the gay community..........
Posted by: Allstar Cookie on Nov 11, 2008 6:26 AM   
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....they still may not get what they want, considering Obama is against gay marriage. So are many of his supporters, particularly in the African American community.

I have apartments that I rent out. Most, actually all, of the tenants are African American, for the last five years anyway.

There's a "For Rent" sign on the front of this house. My tenant in the downstairs apartment, I'm guessing he voted for Obama considering the stickers and signs on his truck and refrigerator, called to tell me that some "homosexual characters" knocked on his door, wanting to look at the apartment upstairs. I don't recall his exact words, but I do remember coming from his mouth....."it's not right".....and........"I don't want that type of behavior near my home".

Nice....if this comes from his moral fiber, he may want to re-adjust his mind, considering his own lifestyle contradicts any resemblance to morality.


The one word that really sums it up for politics in this country, both on the left and right, is hypocrisy.




Allstar Cookie

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"Happy Days are Here Again"???
Posted by: drricklippin on Nov 11, 2008 6:26 AM   
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Don't sing "happy days are here again" just yet.

Many who deified Obama will be disappointed by the realistic tough choices he must make. At best gratification will be deferred for years

That said I,for one, view him as a transformational leader. Too bad the hole the nation is in is so deep and so wide.

Very tough job for Obama ahead.Let's give him a chance!

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
ralippin@aol.com

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"MONEY" BRUNG HIS LEGISLATIVE BRANCH AND THEY WILL DANCE WITH
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Nov 11, 2008 6:42 AM   
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the money that brung them. His presidency is doomed to mediocrity unless he can take the money out of it. The Clintons support using federal tax dollars. The past 8 years should have shown us how much cheaper it would be.

Gallows humor says that we have the best government that money can buy. It is only funny because of the truth of it. It will be absolute total radical campaign finance reform or mediocrity. He has no choice.

Its far more important than "the economy" because he then will have a free hand to fix the economy correctly. If not each of the theives will be calling congress daily asking for a big chunk of free money. They have been getting it.

WE MUST BUY OUR GOVERNMENT BACK. IF WE DON'T THEY WILL.

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DID YOU WANT FRED ASTAIRE OR A PRESIDENT?
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Nov 11, 2008 7:26 AM   
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Oh, I understand the figure of speech. But for a man who was elected a week ago, the demands are relentless. As every mother in the world has said at one time or another "I only have two hands". Nobody ever asked George Bush for anything in return for which we got nothing. His disturbing behavior almost cost us our country. Enter Barack Obama. The demographics strike me as having no definite pattern. The elction was the result of a nation of frightened children looking for someone to help us out of our sorry state. Sometimes the right guy comes along and people are smart enough to realize it. In the past we have missed opportunites. Not this time. Some very unikely people voted for Obama. And quite frankly I don't believe that the issue of color combined with an unconventional but fascinating upbringing influenced us. He came across as very bright, and full of ideas. Mostly he realized that so many problems had to be addressed. Nothing was sugar coated. He's hasn't yet been sworn in and he's already a busy guy. He can't possibly "Dance with everyone who brung him". Unlike George Bush who only had to dance with a handful of guys. The entire nation did not put Bush in the White house. But we did put Obama there. Every single $5 donation is expecting something in return. He knows that. Everything about this election was new and different and I expect things to be run differently. Obama had the enitre world literally dancing in the streets last week. I don't think that's ever been done before. At some point we all have to get back to work. We'll dance again at a later date. Thanks, ANNA

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Change We Can Believe In - That still gets me!!
Posted by: 6399 on Nov 11, 2008 9:05 AM   
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There's a great commentary in today's Bloomberg regarding Obama's Economic Advisory Board members. It reads like a who's who of fraudsters and corporate cronies.

Robert Rubin - helped Enron cook its books, got caught cooking his own and committed numerous accouting fouls while at Ford. Guess who's in D.C., hat in hand, looking for a piece of that TARP bailout?

Anne Mulcahy - While CEO at Xerox, got popped for accounting fraud.

Richard Parsons - Also got popped for accounting fraud. Both Mulcahy and Parsons were directors at Fannie Mae when they were caught breaking accounting rules

So was another member of Obama's new economic board, former Commerce Secretary William Daley. He's now a member of the executive committee at JPMorgan Chase & Co., which, like Citigroup, is among the nine large banks that just got $125 billion of Treasury's bailout budget.

Obama's economic crew might as well be called the Bailout Bunch. Another slot went to former White House economic adviser Laura Tyson. She's been a director for about a decade at Morgan Stanley, which in 2004 got slapped for accounting violations by the SEC and a month ago got $10 billion from Treasury.

Then you've got Emmanuel - consummate corporate insider. Of all the people Obama could have chosen as his chief of staff, couldn't he have found someone who wasn't once on the board of Freddie Mac? Disgusting.

Now, let me tell you what the Obama apologists are going to say in light of this "Status Quo You Can Be Sickened By" reversal. "It's great that he's choosing people who know how corrupt and broken the system so they can fix it", "who better to understand the problem than those with the highest levels of corporate experience", etc, etc. Poor arguments from even weaker minds.

Many of these guys should be getting subpoenas as material witnesses right about now, not places in Obama's inner circle. But who better to patch this economy in tatters than the very people responsible for tearing it to shreds? Who better to solve the myriad problems caused by white collar criminalality than white collar criminals, most of whom held executive positions at the very companies that sent the economy reeling with "liberal" accounting and experimental derivatives.

The vacation is over, Obama fans. Time to hit him hard like you promised us you would. Enough with the idiotic "give him a chance, eeyore" claptrap. Those of you who voted for the man must now own up to what he's doing. When you've completed those letters brimming with indignation, please post a copy of them here so we can see that you're not full of shit. We'll be waiting.

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Will Obama stab his natural constituency in the back?
Posted by: sausage on Nov 11, 2008 9:34 AM   
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The question should not be, "What will an Obama administration do for minorities, women and unions, etc" but "Will an Obama administration put off the concerns of those who propelled him into the White House to curry favor with Wall Street investors and K Street lobbyists?"

I have lately been hearing rumors that any talk of "health care" reform will be put indefinitely on the backburner due to the monumental nature of the financial crisis.

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ritish agent samantha power is a dangerous woman to be around obama.
Posted by: avatar_singh on Nov 11, 2008 9:43 AM   
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quote--"Samantha Power has found a successful niche for herself through her work on genocide. The term “genocide” is emotionally laden. This word has been around since the 1940s. There are battles about it. Who decides which particular mass murder is a genocide and which isn’t? Because of the emotional context of this noun, it was sucked into the “public relations” industry; which industry worked this word to further pull at the heart strings. So this question is important.

America’s rulers decide what is and what is not genocide. The rather attractive Ms. Power is their willing instrument. Take a look at Samantha Power’s book. Somehow the mass murder of Native Americans and Iraqis by Americans doesn’t pass muster for the emotionally laden “genocide”. She may have drier, less familiar and less shocking terms for these “lesser” crimes.

She frames the question differently- America’s role in intervening to prevent genocides elsewhere, successfully deflecting the central question.

Call me simple-minded, but the best way is to count the dead bodies, though accurate numbers are hard to obtain.

A concept that goes along this framework is “humanitarian intervention” more accurately known as “humanitarian imperialism”. This is what Clinton did to the remains of Yugoslavia- a 78 day nuclear radiation bombing campaign.

Power has an interest in Darfur. Could it be due more to rivalry with China over East Africa’s oil that may drive policy here, rather than genocide?

Behind her, I detect the rancid odor of Zbigniew Brzezinski. He’s the Democrat Kissinger wannabe. His cold calculations are outlined in “The Grand Chessboard”, his 1997 book. It’s about America controlling Eurasia. Yes, he’s every bit as crazy as the neocons."
from--http://www.counterpunch.org/skorodin11122008.html

quote from "November 11, 2008
From Powers to Summers
The Machine Grinds On

By MORTON SKORODIN "

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November 7, 2008 (LPAC)--Lyndon LaRouche today demanded that, in the interests of the people of Africa, President-elect Obama must deny any post in his incoming administration to Samantha Power. Power, a longstanding policy adviser to Sen. Obama, is a close ally and asset of the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office's leading genocidalist, Lord Mark Malloch-Brown, who is now engaged in a filthy campaign to slaughter millions in the Great Lakes region of Africa, through his intervention into the ongoing crisis in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. In addition, Power has been on the payroll of the British Foreign Office's leading Western Hemispheric promoter of the narcotics trade, George Soros, for years.

Despite the fact that she was forced to formally resign from the Obama campaign last winter, after she made crude public remarks, targeting Obama's then-Democratic primary rival, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Power has remained in the inner circle around Sen. Obama, and her name has been frequently mentioned for a senior White House or State Department post.

Executive Intelligence Review magazine first exposed Power's association with Lord Malloch-Brown and George Soros on Aug. 22, 2008, in an article by Anton Chaitkin, identifying her as the source of a London Times report that Malloch-Brown was the official liason between the British government of Prime Minister Gordon Brown and the Obama campaign. Power boasted to the Times that Obama ``came to admire [Malloch-Brown] when he was deputy secretary-general of the United Nations. `Obama was really taken with him. It's a relationship that has persisted and they have talked a number of times since.''' from

http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2008/11/07/l

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Wall St. brought him and bought him
Posted by: chlamor on Nov 11, 2008 10:24 AM   
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There's fantasy and reality.

-- he's for permanent occupation of Iraq;

-- America's imperial agenda;

-- militarism and foreign wars;

-- new ones against Pakistan; possibly Iran as well;

-- an enlarged military;

-- more troops to Afghanistan;

-- a new Cold War with Russia;

-- in 2006, campaigned for Joe Lieberman against anti-war candidate Ned Lemont;

-- opposes impeaching Bush and Cheney;

-- in July 2005, backed reauthorizing the Patriot Act with its police state provisions;

-- supports Homeland Security funding to enforce them;

-- supports the death penalty;

-- privatized in lieu of public education;

-- is one-sidedly pro-Israel;

-- opposes universal single-payer national health care;

-- supports medical providers in wrongful injury cases;

-- backs "free trade" and initiatives like NAFTA;

-- the right of mining companies to strip mine everything;

-- is unresponsive to labor;

-- supports biofuels production, big agribusiness subsidies, and the industry's rage to make all foods GMO;

-- supports the Bush administration's energy policy; its huge subsidies and other generous handouts;

-- backs nuclear power, loose industry regulation, and multi-billions in subsidies;

-- supports the Paulson bailout plan and the fraudsters that get it;

-- backs repressive immigration legislation affecting people of color;

-- is beholden to his corporate backers; and

-- is committed to a pro-business agenda overall.

There's the reality.

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RE: Giving Back To The Community
Posted by: Spot on Nov 11, 2008 4:45 PM   
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community work could be paid for and people could make their living off of it, if we would just dare to look socialism in the eye. this country has its spending priorities so entirely backwards, it's sickening. plenty of money for bombs and bailouts, but not a dime for communities.
we don't have an obligation to anyone. but we can ensure that we citizens can survive by doing what needs to be done.

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RE: Mandating Charity
Posted by: desidid on Nov 14, 2008 11:26 AM   
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makes it a punishment, and therefore, not an act of giving selflessly.

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Obama owes corporations, not Americans
Posted by: nfamous on Nov 11, 2008 10:39 AM   
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I know most people that voted for Obama think that they were an integral part of rejuvenating democracy in America but you weren't. What you were is a dupe. Obama was chosen long before anyone ever voted for him. Both Republican and Democratic presidential candidates are chosen by the elite, not caucuses or primaries or any such nonsense. Remember when might made right. Well now money makes right.

All Americans did was choose between a brazen evil, John McCain, or a cladestine evil, Barack Obama. Obama owes his supporters nothing for their hard work and that's exactly what they're going to get. It was the millions and millions of dollars that got Obama elected and he owes Wall Street and the elite his undying allegiance. I know people were inspired by the message of hope but in reality it was a message for a dope. This country is financed by war and drugs. The banks launder it and the elite spend it to wage more wars. Remember Iran Contra?

Sorry suckers but you may think pulling a lever makes you a patriot and somehow indebts Obama to you but the truth of the matter is that loyalty goes to the highest bidder. You just got played........again.........And black people thought poor whites were the only ones that voted against their interests.

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» You nailed it. Posted by: GuitarBill
78% of Jews voted for Obama. Not mentioned hardly anywhere
Posted by: NYCartist on Nov 11, 2008 11:09 AM   
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Since the white vote for Obama was considerably less than the 78% Jewish vote, I again say that Jews are not synonymous with white. I have noticed on talk shows, such as WBAI 99.5FM, some callers separately list whites and Jews. I have heard that on one Christian station also. As a Jew, who is older, I have never considered myself white.

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If it's larouche it's suspect. Samantha Powers is Irish.
Posted by: NYCartist on Nov 11, 2008 11:13 AM   
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I think I saw a larouche url. So the entire content is suspect from a factual point of view.

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Rose-Tinted Dawn
Posted by: J. C. Miller on Nov 11, 2008 11:14 AM   
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At the end of the Werner Herzog film “Rescue Dawn”, widely framed as an homage to the American spirit, American pilot Dieter Dengler is stumped, at a loss to access meaning and convey it to the Navy comrades who plucked him out of the jungle of southeast Asia, where he had napalmed and strafed peasants, barely survived captivity, and been betrayed by his fellow American POWs. All he knows and can transact is the personal, expressed by a will to survive, a “can-do” spirit, almost “pathologically upbeat” mood (as Andrew O’Hehir put it at Salon) and a compulsive need to fly military missions again – a need driven by childhood experiences that programmed him with a single-minded focus on self-preservation: to strategize, control, and elevate above (so to speak) personal vulnerability. Undistracted by potential gains in empathy, moral development, integration of experiences, or complexity, he has gained nothing.

After an election stolen by their highest court, being duped into a criminal military action killing a million humans, normalization of state torture and domestic spying, and steady creep toward a religious state, Americans, like Dieter, were stumped, unsure, split about 50:50 on whether to keep the same faces in charge of things, or some new faces from the same incestuous family, seemingly opting for change only when their personal financial security started to unravel and a dangerously disordered girl stepped up within a stroke of confidently unleashing mayhem. With the cliquing up of their new president-elect with architects of and apologists for war crimes and for a corporate/militarist/religious state, the new faces they have trauma-bonded to look more and more like the old.

There is no joy in affronting or startling those who gaze at new window dressing and hopefully utter “new day” or “united” or “change”, when real change demands nothing less than burning down the house. But there is dharma and duty to warn.

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Why chop and dice the electorate?
Posted by: peterjkraus on Nov 11, 2008 11:24 AM   
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Why is it necessary to delve deeply into the societal makeup of Obama supporters and classify them as Positive (young voters, single women, minorities, etc.) or Negative (old folks) merely by number? Hazen forgets that each citizen belongs not to one, but many different groups and sub-groups. Being a non-religious immigrant white male senior citizen writer of German language novels and opinion features (for a socialist daily newspaper in Berlin) living in Arkansas certainly qualifies me for inclusion in at least three or four mutually exclusive demographics. And, judging from the folks I know here and have known from my life in California, I'm not alone.
So cut the crap and encourage our new administration to engage in policies that will be a boon to all citizens. It ain't that hard, you know.

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one man does not a government make
Posted by: cbishopp on Nov 11, 2008 11:47 AM   
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I truly believe that a good man has been elected to be the president of this nation. Though Bush set the bar pretty low.
Obama cannot do this alone and the hallowed halls of Washington are chock full o' vermin who will use their credentials, their influence and their money to continue on this path of destruction.
Do not underestimate the power of the entrenched. If Obama pushes too far in any direction he is cooked.
It just is not possible to change everything that needs changing all at once and the general population is so sick of being ignored that they are demanding retribution NOW.
As a result, certain issues need to be paid close attention to in order to ebb the flow of this destructive corp. The hierarchy of needs for the immediate future should be:

The reigning in of free market economics and the reestablishment of government controls on brokers and overwhelming foreign investment.
We all need to be vocal about the possible appointment of Lawrence Summers as Secretary of the Treasury. It must be stopped.
We all must be vocal about the use of the bailout funds for the benefit of Wall Street.
We all must be vocal about the repeal of the Patriot Act and the scaling back of the office of Homeland Security.
We all must be vocal about responsible and immediate withdrawal from Iraq.
We all must be vocal about health care and it's role in further depressing the economy.
We all must be vocal in ensuring equal rights and privileges are available to all citizens.
We all must be vocal about the Federal Reserve and it role in the manipulation of the market and the theft of our tax dollars.
We ALL must be vocal.
Whatever you think of Obama keep in mind that he is not a messiah he is just a man.
If he has spurred us all to finally participate in our government then he has already done his job.

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Matt Funiciello
Posted by: mattfuniciello on Nov 11, 2008 12:24 PM   
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The constituency that Barack Obama owes his election to is .... hispanics, black voters, first time voters, youth, disaffected voters, Democrats, fake progressives who don't read, all of the above .....

So, which one is it? Who does Oabama owe his election to?

Obama has collected more money from corporate interests than any other president in our country's entire history. Hhhmmmm, I wonder who he's going to dance with then? Really, its such a mystery. Who could it be? Geez, I just can't wait to find out! Its so exciting. (The last four remarks were sarcasm in case it didn't translate well.)

As Bugs Bunny famously said, "What a bunch of maroons! What an eskimo pie head!"

Will we never figure this thing out? We live in a machine and we don't get to elect people to run it. Not ever! It is run by corporations Hell bent on greed and profit and destruction. Stop living in Lalaland where the people have power. You are offered SIX clear choices nationally and the machine only tells you about two of them using TV to make its case. You believe your TV and choose one of the machine's chosen candidates over the other because ... you're stupid.

The only power we have to "upset the applecart" is that every four years we can vote independent or third party in any 1 of 40 safe states. This election process proves we are just too damn stupid to even pretend we have a democracy. Not even 1 out of 100 voters was informed enough to choose a non-corporate puppet in a state where the jig was clearly up.

We've got to kill the TV's. Its the only way out of this Jonestown Picnic they invite us to every four years. Hey, by the way, have some of the kool-aid while you're here. Its awfully good!

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» RE: Matt Funiciello Posted by: 6399
» RE: Matt Funiciello Posted by: GuitarBill
» The People Have The Power Posted by: pdxjoe
USA Patriot Act
Posted by: Juven on Nov 11, 2008 1:48 PM   
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Litmus test will be the repeal by Obama of the Patriot Act. Since he supported its reauthorization in 2006, I am not full of hope.
We will have this police state infrastructure under the Big O, as well. May as well get used to not having a first and fourth ammendment...

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» RE: How divisive of ME? Posted by: Beck
» Some of us have guns, too... Posted by: freelyb
What change means to me.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Nov 11, 2008 4:29 PM   
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If Mr. Obama what's to impress me with his administration of change, then he can start by prosecuting the war criminals within the last administration. Then putting to death those who have earned the supreme penalty like Mr. Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfield, and Rice, and Powell.

Then Mr. Obama can go after the economic criminals who are looting our future by emptying the treasury and loading the population with extreme debt. I think Paulson, Bernanky, et al will be a good start for prosecution.

But, what do we have? Apparently, Mr. Obama has surrounded him self with apparatchiks from the Clinton machine.

Looks like the new boss is like the old boss.

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The Party's Over
Posted by: Direct Democracy on Nov 11, 2008 6:05 PM   
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Barack's going home with the corporate scion with the "I (Heart) Israel" lapel pin.

Hope his constituents have cab fare.


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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Concerned Citizen
Posted by: pana on Nov 11, 2008 7:07 PM   
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Questioning authority and the status quo is what is needed for the 21st century, not more standards by committee and the endless testing of our students. Think of all the money that would be saved if we quit testing students ad nauseam, and how much students would learn. To think that labeling students as not proficient would motivate life-long learners is pure nonsense.

This country would be better off if Washington, D.C. would start by getting rid of NCLB and high stakes testing, corporate welfare, management by intimidation, and unjust wars just for oil.

Obama, we, the citizens, put you in office and you represent us, not the CEOs with golden parachutes. So please, Obama, remember this most important fact.

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Dream On!
Posted by: eeezzz on Nov 11, 2008 9:07 PM   
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lollolololololo!!!!

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I Object to the title of the article. We ALL brought Obama to the dance and goes home with ALL of us
Posted by: yellow on Nov 12, 2008 7:17 AM   
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He is everyone's president. To those who think that this was a "racial" election or that America is now functions according to racially proportional representation in presidentially appointed staff positions I have only this to say...you're definately in the wrong country!! This is not Lebanon. We are non-sectarian. This is a straight up democracy of all the people. We are a class stratified society now not a racially stratified one. Just go to any welfare office today. There are just as many poor white women as any other kind.

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Americanrm
Posted by: americanrm on Nov 12, 2008 8:15 AM   
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Don, Don, Don... Oh, Don. You say: "Blacks, Latinos, single women, young voters, union members and gay people elected Obama."

What a crock of unstudied crap!

By all figures, even if you assume 100% of those you name voted for Obama, without support from the white, middle class we'd have failed to get an election victory.

President-elect Obama was swept into office by what was truly a cross-culture, cross-class, cross-race electorate, energized by the brilliance of an un-stereotyped patriot who placed his country above all else.

Your attempt to minimize this victory is (perhaps) beneath you.

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Crock of Crap, Don.
Posted by: americanrm on Nov 12, 2008 8:26 AM   
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Don, Don, Don... Oh, Don. You say: "Blacks, Latinos, single women, young voters, union members and gay people elected Obama."

What a crock of unstudied crap!

By all figures, even if you assume 100% of those you name voted for Obama, without support from the white, middle class we'd have failed to get an election victory.

President-elect Obama was swept into office by what was truly a cross-culture, cross-class, cross-race electorate, energized by the brilliance of an un-stereotyped patriot who placed his country above all else.

You usually pander your crap far more subtly than this. Your brazen attempt to minimize or cheapen the Obama victory is (perhaps) beneath you.

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» A DOG IS NOT A CAT Posted by: reelman
Rednecks for Obama
Posted by: YouReapProsperity on Nov 13, 2008 7:27 AM   
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Mr. Don Hazen has just admitted that Republicans are an exclusive Aryan club and they only see skin color. The problem with that is it reminds me of the Greek and Roman civilizations where a majority of white males turned to homosexuals themselves hating women and other races.

A female Latino friend of mine asked me once, "What do white guys like?" with regards to a birthday gift to which I answered, "white guys like other white guys!"

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LOL
Posted by: Artemis3 on Dec 7, 2008 7:43 PM   
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All the Obama kool-aid drinkers are going to be in for a big surprise-yes, he'll have to dance with those who brung him; those people aren't the brainwashed voters, but all of the corporations that contributed large amounts of money to his campaign, George Soros (born Schwartz), and who-all that we don't even know about. There's too much unknown about this guy, and what we do know isn't too appetizing, either. I think there were a lot of disenfranchised and disillusioned people who voted for Obama, thinking he was going to be their miracle worker. We shall see, but I think not.

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