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Sarah Palin Blamed by the US Secret Service Over Death Threats Against Barack Obama

By Tim Shipman, The Telegraph (UK). Posted November 11, 2008.


Palin's attacks on Obama's patriotism provoked a spike in death threats against him Secret Service agents say.
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Sarah Palin's attacks on Barack Obama's patriotism provoked a spike in death threats against the future president, Secret Service agents revealed during the final weeks of the campaign.

The Republican vice presidential candidate attracted criticism for accusing Mr Obama of "palling around with terrorists", citing his association with the sixties radical William Ayers.

The attacks provoked a near lynch mob atmosphere at her rallies, with supporters yelling "terrorist" and "kill him" until the McCain campaign ordered her to tone down the rhetoric.

But it has now emerged that her demagogic tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists to go even further.

The Secret Service warned the Obama family in mid October that they had seen a dramatic increase in the number of threats against the Democratic candidate, coinciding with Mrs Palin's attacks.

Michelle Obama, the future First Lady, was so upset that she turned to her friend and campaign adviser Valerie Jarrett and said: "Why would they try to make people hate us?"

The revelations, contained in a Newsweek history of the campaign, are likely to further damage Mrs Palin's credentials as a future presidential candidate. She is already a frontrunner, with Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, to take on Mr Obama in four years time.

Details of the spike in threats to Mr Obama come as a report last week by security and intelligence analysts Stratfor, warned that he is a high risk target for racist gunmen. It concluded: "Two plots to assassinate Obama were broken up during the campaign season, and several more remain under investigation. We would expect federal authorities to uncover many more plots to attack the president that have been hatched by white supremacist ideologues."

Irate John McCain aides, who blame Mrs Palin for losing the election, claim Mrs Palin took it upon herself to question Mr Obama's patriotism, before the line of attack had been cleared by Mr McCain.

That claim is part of a campaign of targeted leaks designed to torpedo her ambitions, with claims that she did not know that Africawas a continent rather than a country.

The advisers have branded her a "diva" and a "whack job" and claimed that she did not know which other countries are in the North American Free Trade Area, (Canada and Mexico). They say she spent more than $150,000 on designer clothes, including $40,000 on her husband Todd and that she refused to prepare for the disastrous series of interviews with CBS's Katie Couric.

In a bid to salvage her reputation Mrs Palin came out firing in an interview with CNN, dismissing the anonymous leakers in unpresidential language as "jerks" who had taken "questions or comments I made in debate prep out of context."

She said: "I consider it cowardly. It's not true. That's cruel, it's mean-spirited, it's immature, it's unprofessional and those guys are jerks if they came away taking things out of context and then tried to spread something on national news that's not fair and not right."

She was not asked about her incendiary rhetoric against Mr Obama. But she did deny the spending spree claims, saying the clothes in question had been returned to the Republican National Committee. "Those are the RNC's clothes, they're not my clothes. I asked for anything more than maybe a diet Dr Pepper once in a while. These are false allegations."

Speaking as she returned to her native Alaska, Mrs Palin claimed to be baffled by what she claims was sexism on the national stage. "Here in Alaska that double standard isn't applied because these guys know that Alaskan women are pretty tough, on a par with the men in terms of being outdoors, working hard," she said.

"They're commercial fishermen, they're pilots, they're working up on the North slope in the oil fields. You see equality in Alaska. I think that was a bit of as surprise on the national level."

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Can we please stop the Sarah Palin focus?
Posted by: -matti on Nov 11, 2008 12:39 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It is done now, she is merely the Governor of Alaska.

Can we stop obsessing about her now please?

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Clean up your home first, Sarah
Posted by: YogiBear on Nov 11, 2008 12:44 AM   
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Mrs Palin claimed to be baffled by what she claims was sexism on the national stage. ..."Here in Alaska that double standard isn't applied because these guys know that Alaskan women are pretty tough, on a par with the men in terms of being outdoors, working hard," she said..."You see equality in Alaska."

Alaska is one of the worst states in the nation for domestic violence and sexual assaults against women. If Palin is looking to tackle sexism, misogyny and inequality, Alaska is a great place to start.

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» Second the Motion Posted by: westomoon
Palin Is Not Irrelevant
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Nov 11, 2008 2:19 AM   
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It's telling that Palin bitterly lashes out at the anonymous McCain staffers who told tales of her ignorance--as if more evidence were needed--but is remorseless about her unfounded, scurrilous attacks on Obama.

With those who say she is now irrelevant, I disagree. She is a heroine to many on the Christian right and is mentioned as the future standard bearer of the Republican party.

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» RE: Palin Is Not Irrelevant Posted by: Joe Street
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Gidget von Braun
Posted by: Tom Degan on Nov 11, 2008 3:38 AM   
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Watching your average Sarah Palin rally during the stupid campaign which only recently mercifully ended, was like watching the infamous pro-Nazi documentary, Triumph of the Will. Looking into the exclusively white faces of those crowds is enough to remind us that there is a dark, demonic ailment within the American pcyche that cannot be denied or easily explained.

Seig Heil, baby!

Her lies spewed forward against Barack Obama was some of the most hateful American political rhetoric since George Lincoln Rockwell. The woman is even more dangerous an extremist than George W. Bush! Shit! I didn't even think that was possible!

She'll be back. Watch her in the weeks to come as she manipulates herself into position to replace Ted Stevens as Senator of Alaska - as if none of us are going to notice.

Me 'n' George

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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» Hello, Thucy Posted by: Tom Degan
It's Time for the "Blame Game"
Posted by: shill on Nov 11, 2008 4:04 AM   
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Palin was incompetent, but McCain chose her. Let's hope Obama does a good job so we don't have to listen much to folks like these two and the Karl Roves and George W.Bushes of the world in the NEXT election!

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Lynch mob on TV
Posted by: craighorowitz on Nov 11, 2008 4:09 AM   
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There was a rally somewhere for Palin (or Mccain) and the hundred or so outside were giving the finger to Obama suporterrs across the street. There was a late 50s white man carrying a little stuffed monkey (a Curious George toy) with an Obama sticker as his crown. When he looked at the camera, he shook the doll, referred to it as little Obama and went off smirking. It was the same face I'd see on a 1930s post card from the south where an actual lynch mob was pointing at their negro victim hanging in the tree in the background. That same, exact, gleeful, piggish face

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» RE: Lynch mob on TV Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: Lynch mob on TV Posted by: mtatasmith
» RE: Lynch mob on TV Posted by: Malamute
Palin got a taste of her own medicine
Posted by: AngryWhiteFemale on Nov 11, 2008 4:18 AM   
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She said: "I consider it cowardly. It's not true. That's cruel, it's mean-spirited, it's immature, it's unprofessional and those guys are jerks if they came away taking things out of context and then tried to spread something on national news that's not fair and not right."


Does the dimwit even realize the irony of that statement? When I heard McSame's supporters booing when he mentioned Obama at his concession speech, all I could think of was that the hateful, divisive rhetoric spewed by Palin had worked and the crowd really believed that a domestic terrorist had been elected. She ran a terrible, anti-intellectual, mendacious campaign and now she is experiencing instant karma.

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No Possible Way
Posted by: LeaderofMen on Nov 11, 2008 4:40 AM   
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"The revelations, contained in a Newsweek history of the campaign, are likely to further damage Mrs Palin's credentials as a future presidential candidate. She is already a frontrunner, with Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, to take on Mr Obama in four years time."

No. Possible. Way.

Once Obama gets going and the public sees exactly how his administration works, which will be unprecedented in its efficiency and work ethic, there is no possible way we will elect Palin and Jindal.

Here's why. Once SCIENCE again makes a resurgence as a VIABLE basis for creating our new technology/energy workforce, no one in their right mind would elect two CREATIONISTS/FUNDAMENTALISTS to become Prez and VP.

Together, they represent the absolute worst scum of fundamentalism - and may as well be ignorant televangelists.

On the other hand, I hope the Republican party is still in disarray at that point and nominates them. It will prove once and for all that the GOP is nothing more than a bunch of backwoods snake-handlers, hellbent on making sure the End Times comes on their watch.

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» RE: No Possible Way Posted by: ohb0b
Ethics and Common Sense
Posted by: Purple Girl on Nov 11, 2008 5:09 AM   
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I have no doubt Sarah was mishandled- men's brains don't work as well when the blood has rushed South. I can see Shunenmuan and Kristol so caught up in their own erections they never dared tell her 'NO'.
Who wouldn't realize such accusations would feed the fire of racial Fear.
White Supremeist only 'hate' because they are terrified of other races.They fear another race will take over the world and begin treating Whites as the Whites have treated them. They also fear the potential to actually have to compete economically on a level playing field. They know the other races have been working harder to educate and succeed.This means the 'supremeist' they may just have to get off their lazy ass and WORK instead of being handed everything on a 'Priviledged Platter'
White Supremist don't actually 'hate' other races- they don't know anything about them...THEY'RE SCARED SHITLESS of them.
Take a tough guy from a suburb and drop his ass in say....Detroit. Watch his ass pucker and the fear wash over his face.They are so easily detected, you can almost Smell the fear.
Frankly it is these ASSHOLES who should be looking for a new country-Not only are they the Antithesis of Our Founding Ideals, They are a slap in the face to every person who served in WW2.
UNAMERICAN...That's the White Supremeists and their Neo Nazi 'soldier Boys'
Being a Michigander, I personally would LOVE to see aCrack down on these Type groups- including their facade the 'Michigan Militia'.
Michiganders still have a score to settle with them and the SHAME they brought to Our Great State.
Reason McCain pulled out of MI, WE are far more diverse then Most imagine. We have 'hamlets' of race & culture...But when we go to work, we are all ONE community. Heres another little fact...Dearborn is one of the Nations Highest MiddleEastern populations...If there were 'sleeper cells' or outright terrorists why haven't they found in such Groups in Dearborn? They've looked and some have been investigated- but all have amount to Nothing.
We may not all live 'next door' to each other, but that is why there are great areas to see in MI...Many cultrual Traditions have been maintained because of the tendency to live in a community that reflects your backgound. 'Fat Tuesday' requires a trip to Hamtramack. Ever seen a REAL Belly Dancer, Go to Greek Town, and have some OPA! Cheese.Locs and Beagels You ask...Go to Ferndale or Southfield. Authenticity . There is NOTHING Authenitic about White Supremeists- they are mere 'Wannabes' who have no idea about their Own cultrual backgrounds. I'd bet most have no idea what their ethnic background is, or any of the struggles their ancestors faced due to bigotry and FEAR from others who thought the same way they Do Now.

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» Not precisely fair Posted by: westomoon
Can we please move on!
Posted by: 2thepoint on Nov 11, 2008 5:13 AM   
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I'll be there are more articles on Palin than Obama right now.. The smear continues!

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» RE: Can we please move on! Posted by: Junior Barns
» RE: Can we please move on! Posted by: 2thepoint
Belief in the collective, loss of free will?
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Nov 11, 2008 5:24 AM   
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In rational places, we hold individuals accountable for their choices.

"The devil* made me do it." Doesn't hold water.

*Insert your personal devil--Palin, Obama, That Voice In Your Head--here.

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» My radio has feature... Posted by: ABetterFuture
Lying to her father, as well...
Posted by: freelyb on Nov 11, 2008 6:15 AM   
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I read in another article yesterday (sorry, can't reference it as I blow through them quickly)that Palin told her father all that she purchased was a pair of shoes. This is really telling in terms of her loyalty to the truth and to those who support her. All I needed to hear...

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Excuse me but Paling ain't gonna be in the White House so R-E-L-A-X !
Posted by: maxpayne on Nov 11, 2008 7:06 AM   
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What a waste of space this article takes up ! What the hell is the matter with these so-called "progressive" and/or "liberal" sites beating dead horses? They sound no different from those self-righteous "conservatives" who always drum up fear and lies about some mythical "liberal boogeyman" ! This article reminds me of the way Bush kept talking down the economy all through 2000 and then made it happen and on foreign policy it was no different. The voters have already soundly REJECTED Mccain/Palin so leave Palin alone at the grave and MOVE ON ! Obama/Biden are gonna take over the White House and they're gonna try to clean up all this mess the Bush/Cheney gang dumped for the past 8 years. This is just another stupid author who should SHUT UP and get back to business and make the Democrats use their power wisely and STOP allowing them to invent another 2 years of excuses for failing. You don't have Bush to kick around no more and filibusters are less likely than before. If the Democrats cannot learn to frame the issues and make inroads just like the GOP used to do when they were in the minority, then of course they will be perceived as weak ! GAWD !!!

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» GREAT COMMENT LAUREN !!! Posted by: Live Gently
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if you ignore her . . .
Posted by: l_double_e on Nov 11, 2008 7:23 AM   
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so is this Governor Palin's new master plan "if i can stay in the media's spotlight everyday for the next three and a half years, i'll have a real shot at becoming the next republican presidential election" what will she do next, form her own shadow government in Alaska, in direct opposition to President Obama's, oh i forgot, she already has. We must band together and collectively ignore this woman. Don't get me wrong, it is high time for a woman president, vice-president, chief justice, just not THAT ONE (to borrow a phrase). Why would anyone want to elect someone who is dumber than Bush? in fact maybe that should be the next chapter in the Dumb and Dumber franchise - George and Sarah go to Circuit City.

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They're the ones who hired her!
Posted by: chaosowl on Nov 11, 2008 7:43 AM   
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I am not a Palin fan, at all. I thought that the RNC's choice of her for a running mate for McCain was absurd on many levels. But they chose her, they touted her as capable of taking on the presidency, and now they blame her for their bad decisions. History is written by the victors but even the losers can spin the story. They must think we are incredibly unthinking so as to not question how the RNC can have her run as understudy to one of the most powerful postions on the face on the earth then, within a space of days, tell us how unbelievably inappropriate she was as a candidate. Gov. Palin should be insulted, I don't even like her and I'm insulted on her behalf.

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REP. PAUL BROUN
Posted by: master09 on Nov 11, 2008 7:58 AM   
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This Republican demogague from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist dictatorship. I'am sorry to say that his stupidiy must be inbred; it would appear to me that the state of georgia have problem with its real americans.

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» RE: P. PAUL BROUN Posted by: sallyride
What Boggles the Mind . . .
Posted by: sallyride on Nov 11, 2008 8:29 AM   
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Here we read about the Secret Service's stance on Palin - we could have told them that much earlier. What were they doing, how, and why? Did they have a responsibility to report their "suspicions" to the candidate (McBlame?), the FBI, the president? Who, in fact are they beholden to, besides the U.S. citizens? Did they act? If so, how and when?

If Palin had submitted her resume, and transcripts (from her many college attempts) how would her candidacy for any job in your own company be viewed? Take into consideration her present position (not hired but voted in politically), a new mother - not to discriminate, but still a question when one desires to take over a nation), plus all of her "Hobbies" and "Interests" including blatant disregard for wildlife, public record of manipulating the truth (Bridge to Nowhere), the infamous church singing group to which she belonged where some of the group had mysterious ends, now think, would she be kept on your Finalists List?

Thus, my point. Where was the Secret Service, indeed our FBI, and what in blazes was going on with McCain, and the RNC who recruited "that person" without vetting her? In truth, I seriously doubt it was merely a case of poor judgment. It was bloomin' deliberate! Her "recruitment" so negatively reflects on the respect the RNC has for America, daring to fly in the face of voters, and the Secret Service. Huh? "Sounds like" Bush, Rove, Cheney, and the rest of the Texas mafia. When will we, as Americans, stop this insanity?

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Sounds like just more agitprop to me
Posted by: MartianBachelor on Nov 11, 2008 8:35 AM   
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> The revelations, contained in a Newsweek history of the campaign...

So Newsweak has a pipeline directly into some of the most sensitive innards of the Secret Service? How convenient... and how implausible.
But I guess some people will believe anything, especially if it confirms their worst prejudices.

Maybe they could publish a graph of the number of death threats per day as a function of time, so we could all independently attempt to fully correlate the data with everything else going on in the world at the time.

E.g., because the 35% meltdown in the financial markets following the conventions was plausibly caused by fear of what the front-runner Obama's presidency would mean to business, employment and consumer spending, and the economy, it could just have been people watching their retirement accounts evaporating and getting angry while feeling stymied by an inability to do anything about it.

Or maybe Palin was spewing subliminal messages -- though I'd thought the alleged shouts of "Kill Him!" meant kill that terrorist Ayers, but I guess subliminal messages sometimes go astray.

Why would anyone want to go after Obama when Crazy Joe Biden was the backup/insurance guy? I mean, considering Biden's vote totals in the primaries (approximately zero), one would imagine all those who would take him over Obama would already have been safely locked away by the SS in a padded room somewhere.

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American People Should not tolerate Palin's Rhetoric
Posted by: exub on Nov 11, 2008 8:36 AM   
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During the campaign I was appalled by the rhetoric spewing from McCain and Palin telling extreme lies about Barack Obama and stirring up right wing extremist hatred. These are the people who do cling to guns and other violence and are likely to be the type of people who do not investigate if statements are true or not. These people are a serious danger to our new president elect as a direct result of the words directly from Sarah Palin's mouth.

It is very important that the American people demand a public apology from Sarah Palin for her lies and seriously inaccurate accusations against Barack Obama that are endangering his life.

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check the comments on freerepublic.com...
Posted by: zooeyhall on Nov 11, 2008 9:01 AM   
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For those posters who have a dismissive attitude towards Palin and her crowd, I suggest you check out some of the comments on the freerepublic.com website--especially those immediately following when it became clear he was to be president.

The stark, insane, rabid rage of some of these people towards Mr. Obama is REAL! I truly fear for the man after reading some of these wingnut comments. What Palin did with her rhetoric to inflame certain elements is scary. I live in Nebraska, and when she was in Omaha people were screaming for Obama to be killed---I saw it on the local newscast.

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» They are scary! Posted by: BreeMass
Repubs are trying to keep the Muthee affair off Palin's Wikipedia page
Posted by: Jasonix on Nov 11, 2008 9:01 AM   
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Make sure you stop by at some point during the day and plop it back in the article. Piss 'em off.

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The worst campaign in history
Posted by: JohnJlws on Nov 11, 2008 9:05 AM   
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The maverick's campaign will go down in history as the worst ever. His choice of the mayor was possibly as bad as any that anyone could make. "She energized the base." Great, but who was "the base" going to vote for? Some could have stayed home, but no party wins with "the base."

And, I don't think I'm sexist, but I found the mayor to be monumentally unprepared. Based simply on things like the Couric interview, which if those were difficult questions folks any of us could run for office, she was far from ill-prepared to lead.

All that to say, I think the evaluation of what she said and what happened is very significant, very relevant and should not simply be ignored. So, in answer to some posts here, "no, we cannot move on."

I found the rhetoric spewing from the maverick's campaign to be grossly unacceptable. There are enough whack jobs out there who need little incentive to do something stupid and love or dislike Obama, Biden, Clinton, Edwards, McCain, Romney, Huckabee, Paul or whomever, they deserve our respect, admiration and insurance that what they do won't result in harm to themselves or their family.

The mayor was performing the role of a catalyst with some of the garbage she was coming up with. The maverick should have put an end to this Rovarian nonsense the moment it started to happen. Should something happen to Obama I believe our country will pay an enormous price and all of us should be working to insure his and his family's safety including the simple feat of controlling our rhetoric. He's the most powerful person in the free world and leading what I consider to be one of the greatest experiments in government in history. We should, all of us, but especially his political opponents, have enough honor and decency to hold our rhetoric to criticisms of his leadership, ideals and ideas and not stoop to the stupidity of playing for sound bites.

Keeping our rhetoric to something other than juvenile rantings should be the easiest qualifier we demand from our leaders and prospective leaders.

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» RE: The worst campaign in history Posted by: greenPuker
Ok people, listen up.
Posted by: maxpayne on Nov 11, 2008 9:14 AM   
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You wanna help Obama make it through his presidency safely? Then put pressure on your Congress people to nail the Secret Service and make them non-partisan for a change. Forget about Palin. She'll be off the radar screen soon and when you come across the typical foam-at-the-mouth Republicans, tell them to back off and come back when they're done foaming and are ready to move on and put this election behind them. Give them no help otherwise. There are far more good liberals, moderates, independents, and even reasonable conservatives who are ready to accept Obama's presidency and help clean up the mess of the last 8 years. So get busy living or get busy dying. It's your choice !

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» RE: Ok people, listen up. Posted by: BreeMass
» RE: Ok people, listen up. Posted by: jshubbub
palin's political future?
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Nov 11, 2008 9:18 AM   
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and the media is "all over" sarah running for a higher office in the future because !?!?!?!?!!?
may the republican party remember her for the election-loser she was and let her fade away into soccer mom land forever. NOBODY should be encouraging this crazy woman to run for any office, anywhere, ever again.

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Now is the perfect time...
Posted by: JohnJlws on Nov 11, 2008 9:29 AM   
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McCain's campaign will go down in history as one of the worst ever. His choice of Palin was possibly as bad as any that anyone could make. We hear "She energized the base." But who was "the base" going to vote for? Who was "the base" going to work for? Each time I'd listen to the pundits they'd be talking about something else McCain was doing to "energize the base." Congratulations sir. You got the base. Some could have stayed home, but no party wins with only "the base."

And, I don't believe I'm inordinately sexist, but I found Palin to be monumentally unprepared. Based simply on things like the Couric interview, which if those were difficult questions folks any of us could run for office, Palin was far from ill-prepared to lead and I'm rather surprised she holds elective office, although the depth of her answers demonstrates the obviously shallow level of knowledge and skill required to govern Alaska and probably most other states with populations no larger than some moderately sized cities.

All that to say, I think the evaluation of what Palin said and the results is very significant, very relevant and should not simply be ignored. So, in answer to some posts here, "no, we cannot move on." Now is the time to discuss the rhetoric and the consequences of that rhetoric of this campaign.

I found the rhetoric spewing from McCain's campaign to be grossly unacceptable. There are enough whack jobs out there who need little incentive to do something stupid. And love or dislike Obama, Biden, Clinton, Edwards, McCain, Romney, Huckabee, Paul or whomever, they ALL deserve our respect, admiration and insurance that what they do, and what we do, won't result in harm to themselves or their families.

Palin was performing the role of "whack job catalyst" with some of the garbage she was coming up with. McCain should have put an end to this Rovarian nonsense the moment it started. Should something happen to Obama our country will pay an enormous price and all of us should be working to insure his and his family's safety.

He's the most powerful person in the free world and leading what I consider to be one of the greatest experiments in government in history. We should, all of us, but especially his political opponents, have enough honor and decency to hold our rhetoric to criticisms of his leadership, ideals and ideas and not stoop to the stupidity of playing for sound bites.

We are a nation built on the foundation that we can peacefully share our ideas with one another. Controlling and weighing our rhetoric should be the lowest threshold we demand from our leaders and prospective leaders. Let's have this discussion now. Following McCain's abhorrent, fruitless campaign provides us the perfect opportunity.

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What is the future of the Republican Party?
Posted by: Mike U. on Nov 11, 2008 10:44 AM   
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The high point of Governor Sarah Palin's popularity was right after she delivered her acceptance speech at the Republican Convention. We know the speech was written before Gov. Palin was picked, and fine tuned when the VP's name was announced. Gov. Palin did a great delivery but once she tried to go beyond the elements of her canned speech her ignorance of the basic function of government was exposed. At the Convention she was preaching to the choir and they responded with cheers and jeers right on cue. The audience was made up of hard core Republicans with no one asking any questions as to her qualifications or lack thereof. After the convention bounce wore off, it was all downhill in the polls.

It's time for the real Republicans to take back their party from the radical and religious right of Ronald Reagan, George Bush and Sarah Palin. The 25% fringe element which now controls the Republican Party do not represent the ideals of most Republicans, who are fiscal conservatives. They want to lead this nation with less government interference in their lives, without running up huge deficits as Reagan and Bush have done.

Only when the Republican Party moves to the political center, abandoning the radical right elements will they be embraced by some Independents who left because the GOP abandoned their centrist beliefs (dictionary definition of radical: favoring drastic political, economic, or social reform). The mainstream Republicans need to dump Palin and her radicals, forcing them to become a third party who would have to come begging for a piece of the political pie.

In Bush 2000 got the Presidency by way of the Supreme Court. In 2004, with the power of a sitting President and the nation at war, he eked out a 1 1/2% "mandate." In 2008 Obama trounced the Republican nominee by a whopping 6.5% while his coattails brought more Democrats into Congress. A groundswell that will be hard to reverse even if Obama is unable to deliver just half of his stated goals. We all know the 'poison pill' Bush has left the next President: a commitment of a $1 trillion gift to the banks, financial institutions and big business.

If the Republican Party voters are so narrow-minded as to select Gov Palin in 2012 (or will it be Senator Palin by then?), they will garner even less votes than they received in 2008!

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Palin should be charged with inciting violence or worse
Posted by: Gretchen on Nov 11, 2008 11:18 AM   
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There must be a federal law against inciting violence against a Presidential candidate that carries some stiff fines and penalties. The rightwing hatemongers, whose extreme race-baiting and fear/hate tactics are promoted every minute of the day, must be stopped with the full force of the law. Let's get charges filed against Palin, Limbaugh, Coulter and any other extremist of the left or right who threatens our safety and that of our elected officials. We do not need another JFK, RFK, MLK type assassination, nor do we want race riots or other hate crimes to escalate, which they are due to these reckless rightwingnut extremists who have been allowed free reign on the airwaves with the media's open complicity. If Obama or any of his staff is harmed or any Dems, supporters, I will blame these people!

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What do you get
Posted by: willymack on Nov 11, 2008 11:36 AM   
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When you take away from people, knowlege, empathy,and the ability to think in an analytical fashion? Why palin and mccain stooges, that's what.

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Another distortion
Posted by: VeryBlessed on Nov 11, 2008 11:39 AM   
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Nobody in the Secret Service blamed Palin. This is the Newsweek spin: “The Obama campaign was provided with reports from the Secret Service showing a sharp and disturbing increase in threats to Obama in September and early October, at the same time that many crowds at Palin rallies became more frenzied.” The last part, “at the same time that many crowds at Palin rallies became more frenzied,” isn’t supported by even the media’s own distorted accounts, unless I entirely missed something. It was only after Palin brought up Ayers, on October 6, that the media started slandering the McCain/Palin crowds. October 6 doesn’t square with the spike in September. What does, though, is Obama getting his party’s nomination, the election getting very close, the “racism” of voters suddenly getting talked about a lot as McCain made gains after selecting Palin, the Democratic-aided Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac crisis, and Obama gaining the edge in polls.

Besides reading “Highlights: Newsweek’s Special Election Project”, also read Newsweek’s “Secret Service looking into Obama threat at rally,” and
“The Secret Service and the Obama Death Threat.”


The first one says: “Last week, The Washington Post reported a similar incident during a Palin rally in Clearwater, Fla. The Secret Service investigated that allegation and found no indication that "kill him" was ever said, or if it was said, that the remark was directed at Obama.” It leaves out what reporter Dana Milbank told Politico: “Milbank said that his impression was that the man meant Ayers, not Obama,” (“Milbank: Secret Service hasn’t called”).

This is from Milbank’s story “In Fla., Palin Goes for the Rough Stuff as Audience
Boos Obama”
:

"And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,' " she continued. ("Boooo!" the crowd repeated.)

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.


And the second Newsweek story reports: “But even before Obama cited ‘reports’ of the threats at the debate, the U.S. Secret Service had told media outlets, including NEWSWEEK, that it was unable to corroborate accounts of the ‘kill him’ remarks—and according to a law-enforcement official, who asked for anonymity when discussing a political matter, the Obama campaign knew as much. Now some officials are disgruntled that Obama gave added credence to the threat by mentioning it in front of 60 million viewers. At this point in the campaign, said one, candidates will ‘say anything to make a particular point.’"

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» RE: Another distortion Posted by: Quannah
THE SECRET SERVICE
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Nov 11, 2008 3:04 PM   
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Is fanning the flames. It's far more important to protect the President Elect and his family than it is to keep Crazy Nanook of the North in the limelight. She's still the selfish brat she was from the beginning and no longer serves a purpose. That's what happens when you lose an election. You shut up and go home. Maybe she should hear that from the Secret Service. This has to stop. She cannot be allowed to interfere with the way we run the country. Anyone who threatens us gets arrested. That's the deal Sarah. Just please shut up. Thanks, ANNA

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The Undead
Posted by: Lilly on Nov 11, 2008 4:15 PM   
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Vd: horror movies about The Undead. They won't stay dead. They keep coming back. This particular zombie is the one who told her friends that she had failed to come in #1 in the 1984 Miss Alaska contest "because she failed to create enough drama around herself". She is an insatiable hog for attention and has ambitions (or, as the Victorians used to say, ideas above her station). She has put herself in the news every day since the election. Was there ever before a VP candidate who, having lost, comes to the top guy's concession prepared to make a speech? Who keeeps telling the media what's what after she has not only lost but is identified by many voters as the REASON they voted against her ticket? Denying SP attention won't stop her pathological grandiosity. Meanwhile, I keep reading articles about the coming split in the GOP, half of which wants to rally 'round Sarah. Trust in this: she is one of the Undead.

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MORE DISTRACTIONS TO KEEP CONFUSION AND DIVISION ALIVE
Posted by: hoorah on Nov 11, 2008 4:16 PM   
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From looking at this article title. "Sarah Palin Blamed By The U.S. Secret Service Over Death Threats Against Barak Obama." I thought there was some merit to this story. I haven't heard any information about the U.S. Secret Service blaming Governor Palin for any threats made against Senator Obama. If there is any "valid" information on this topic. By all means. Direct me to a a web site link(s) to possibly verify this information for myself. Also, I would like to see documentation on being responsible for the violence and mistakes of others because of spoken words possibly taken out of context. What I've just described sounds similar to the "hate crimes legislation" I heard about a few years ago. We are getting to the point in society where loony-tunes would legislate our thoughts if they could.

The title of this post says it all. First the "issues of the day" were put on the back burner while Governor Palin appeared to get "rave reviews" from most news media sources. For what seemed like 2 or 3 weeks of daytime and night-time coverage. Once the "glamor" stories started to fizzle out. The world was spoon fed the "bad and the ugly" about Sarah Palin.

A few days ago. One of the media distraction plans kept some Americans fixated on Sarah Palin's wardrobe. I don't give a hoot and nanny if Sarah Palin has a valued wardrobe of $150,000,000,000,000. I don't even care who pays for her wardrobe before, during or after the presidential elections. As long as it doesn't come out of my pocket. What I do care about is living in a better country and a better world for all of humanity. There's no doubt in my mind that verbal threats may have been made against Senator Obama. I can only base that belief on what I hear or read from the news media. Senator Obama I believe is and will be "well protected" for life by the U.S. Secret Service. He appears to be getting on with his life and focusing on the role that he is to play in U.S. history. I for one will not spend my life being distracted by confusion and divisions of every sort. It is high time for some people to move on. The presidential election is over. I wouldn't worry about Sarah Palin being President in 2012. I'm not sure humanity will exist that long.

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Sarah the Hypocrite
Posted by: VictoriaCross on Nov 11, 2008 4:25 PM   
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Sarah Palin might disingenuously say: "These are not my clothes. They are the RNC's clothes and I have sent them back to them" but she wore them right until just before the end of the campaign and only gave them up once she had been pinged for accepting them from the RNC for herself and her sleazy husband.
If she is as principled as she would now have us believe, why didn't she hand them back in the first instance when they were delivered to her, or, better still, she could have sent out word from the get-go that she preferred to wear her local consignment shop clothing?
So, in other words, she is just a hypocrite that is trying to re-write history to suit her future political ambitions.

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Stupid Begat Stupid
Posted by: don't jolive my olive. on Nov 11, 2008 5:11 PM   
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Does Sarah Palin have her grade 12?

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ENOUGH!!!
Posted by: sec55 on Nov 11, 2008 6:53 PM   
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I am SO SICK of hearing about this woman. She and Dubya are an embarrassment to the Christian faith and to the country. PLEASE - NO MORE. Let her sink into well-deserved obscurity.

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» RE: NOUGH!!! Posted by: Quannah
» RE: NOUGH!!! Posted by: GeorgiaBlue
» RE: NOUGH!!! Posted by: Quannah
» RE: NOUGH!!! Posted by: Quannah
BBC News reports "Palin Looks to God over 2012 Bid"
Posted by: JLPearson on Nov 11, 2008 8:50 PM   
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Palin has no intention of just fading away. And she is praying that God shows her an open door to the White House.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/

Alternet said the complete web address was too long for me to write it all in, being over 60 characters. Please do not forget about Palin; she has every intention of coming back again!

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enough
Posted by: arocco on Nov 11, 2008 9:22 PM   
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Give it up already the election is over, this is a wast of valuable news print. It's about time to stop with the BS. Just for the record I'm a strong Obama supporter.

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» RE: THE HIP-PO-CRITES OF THE LEFT Posted by: peacefullaim
Terri
Posted by: TERRIROBSON on Nov 12, 2008 12:18 PM   
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The moment this shallow impersonation of a woman started inciting hatered and lynch mob mentality is when she should have been arrested. This is racial bullshit, if Obama had done this same type of tactic the alphabet of security institutions would have had him in prison and called him a National Security risk.

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End Days
Posted by: JEFFDUBE on Nov 12, 2008 2:06 PM   
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The' end days' you mentioned are for Obama the racist bigot, not others. Marxism will fail.

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This is a blog about protecting civil rights?
Posted by: steveconn on Nov 12, 2008 5:54 PM   
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This is a blog about protecting civil rights and the first thing I read is about a political candidate's speech endangering another candidate and all the former bathroom bloggers agreeeing because they hate Palin? This is exactly the type of person whose civil liberties need to be protected if your civil liberties and freedom of speech are going to be protected.

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OK . . .
Posted by: Musked on Nov 12, 2008 9:18 PM   
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I give up. The first person that flings [moose] poo at Mrs. Palin, gets $3.

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LIB-MEDIA FROM NOW ON
Posted by: reelman on Nov 14, 2008 8:42 AM   
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Cowards in great numbers can do very impressive things…even more amazing things when truth does not matter. The trial run for this generation was the years of bashing Bush daily…there was no slack, there was nothing he could do that met lib-media approval…at least Klinton signed Welfare Reform for conservative praise. Count on this to continue at least 3 more years, come what may.

Now its “commandment one” to engage in “preemptive” tainting of any conservative or Republican that may have national aspirations.

Did any conservative media follow a losing democrat VP home to harass them? Send hordes of dirt diggers to their home town area?

Journalism now is simply “repeating the AP or Reuters” like magpies. It matters not how tilted it is, it matters not how unverified it is…the press borg simply act like a copy machine.

Spiking or verifying stories is limited to negative articles about democrats. When it comes to legitimate journalism…its reserved for your political enemies.

Hey, when 90% or more of the major news staffs have been voting liberal all their lives…we call that “balance”…we call that “objective”.

Why do millions have to search the Web for so much missing information on major issues? One minor example would be the “oil company profits” rants…not one lib-media mentioned those same companies paid record taxes to the federal treasury. The huge tax burden on business is simply not worthy of lib-media mention because they can never pay enough to grow socialism-create dependence-buy votes.

Look for the Palin smear campaign to be closely followed by dinging Jindal, Romney, etc. Obama, the radical socialist, will be on
an endless honeymoon” with the fawning invested lib-media as blameshifting, factless assertions, lies, distortions and deletions as the radical applies the failed policies of punishing taxes, wingnut judges, fanatical spending and serial apologies about America.

We will be told “give it time”, “you don’t understand”, ‘fairness has some pain”, “you are selfish”, “the world demands we change”.
You can’t have Jimmah Carter II surrounded by the same socialist crowd and get different results. get your thickest note pad out…its gonna be filled with excuses…you can also add all the awful “unintended consequences” liberal policies are famous for generating.

Always remember Obama was the candidate that excited Hollyweird, many thug dictators and terrorist groups…what does that tell you? (Suckers)

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» RE: LIB-MEDIA FROM NOW ON Posted by: Quannah
» RE: LIB-MEDIA FROM NOW ON Posted by: peacefullaim
Smear job
Posted by: FreeAmerica on Nov 14, 2008 10:11 PM   
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Palin is unlike most repubs in that she is actually conservative. She needs to be smashed down ala Ron Paul and branded a kook before she can actually garner the favor of the masses.

THAT is why we are hearing all of this smear job and dirt digging. You will hear about Palin dirt until you are sick of it and beyond. If it works, people will have an ingrained negative image of her, and she will never be a viable politician or threat to the left.

The kill him ruckus was proven false. The secret service reviewed the tapes, and it never happened. Like this article and others like it, obama got some mileage out of it to smear palin for the 'greater good'. If it were a credible threat, there would be a head on a pike for all to see on the MSM news.

As far as the 'hate filled rallies', I am unaware of anything close to that in the mcpalin campaign. That is just propaganda. Mc wouldn't stand for it at all, and that was on the news too. There was enthusiasm, but not hate with the exception of some kooks. Both sides have them, right rev wright?

The guy with the curious george should have been jailed... Downtown, and let him keep his racist obama is a monkey doll with him in the public holding cell.

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bendar dundat
Posted by: bender dundat on Nov 15, 2008 2:51 AM   
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Palin, Schmalin, she is a total non-entity, an empty suit if ever there was one.. She may be the new face of the Republican Party, but the Republicans still need a brain and a heart. A brain would enable them to tell the truth and a heart would allow them to repent for being a Party of cowards, liars, thieves, traitors,war criminals and apostate Christians. May the God of truth and justice plague all Republicans with Job-like suffering, beginning with boils from their crown to their fundament and ending with their permanent incarceration at Guantanamo--Fascist Fun City on the lovely(communist) island of Cuba.

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Keep up the good work,Palin!
Posted by: nesstoria on Nov 15, 2008 6:21 PM   
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I think the more the bitch w/lipstick keeps talking to the media the less chance she'll have of winning in any future elections.The more she spews out of her no-nothing,backward thinking,pea-sized brain the more "we the people" can look forward to another Obama/Biden administration.So,I say to you Palin,keep on keepin on and THANK YOU,for another 4 yrs.under Sen.Barack Obama.

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Condie for Republican VP Candidate
Posted by: richard0a37 on Nov 26, 2008 12:18 AM   
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Why don't they ask Condeleezza Rice to become the Republican party's vice presidential candidate for 2012? She's a good looking black woman, she's has one of the brightest minds I can think of, she's had stacks of experience, she's a classically trained musician, plus a whole host of other outstanding qualities.

When she took over as head of the NSA, no one battered an eyelid that she's black, as well as being Bush's right hand (man).

Like most things in life, and TV advertisements in particular, US elections are basically illusions designed to appeal to the consumer/electorate, and have little if anything to do with real life.

The powers-that-be dictate policy on the really important issues like foreign policy and keeping the powers-that-be in power, so Obama is putting together a team that perpetuates that.

Everything else is window dressing, but they will also do what they can to ensure that everything else is just about ticking over for the rest of the population.

Palin is not the problem. It's the tens of millions of citizens resident in the Northern areas of the continent of America across the region who did actually vote for her and her like minded congressional colleagues in the republican party who are the real problem.

As a matter of interest, I am getting sick of tired of you people calling yourself Americans. You people don't seem to realise that like Africa, America is also a continent which also contains Canada, Greenland, Mexico, Brazil, Paraguay, Uraguay, Peru plus all the other countries of South America.

It is like me or a Frenchman calling ourselves Europeans when we are in fact English/French etc

You cannot call yourself American unless you choose to be misleading and inaccurate. What you are doing is blowing your territorial status out of all proportion.

In that sense, you are like the North American Indian which you kicked out after you'd invaded and occupied their land, so in that sense, all North American white people are stateless and far removed from the homes that they really all come from.

You have manufactured a phony emotional attachment to a piece of land without having the slightest justification for doing so. You got rid of the people who actually did live there long before you did, and then you bring in half the African population to do all your dirty work for you.

That's the true legacy of the region of land seen on the map as a part Northern region of the continent of America.

You don't have a country or a real home, so you manufacture one of thin air, so the best you can come up with is identification with part of a continent.

Well done, we can all do that. Unfortunately, for you people, it becomes phony - like your TV advertising and election contests - and there's nothing you can do about it. Your whole foundation is built upon invasion and occupation, especially of the piece of land that you actually call home.

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