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Election 2008

Obama Wins and Redefines What It Means to Be American

By David Corn, MotherJones.com. Posted November 5, 2008.


So who's a real American now?
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With his decisive triumph over Senator John McCain, Senate Barack Obama made obvious history: he is the first black (or biracial) man to win the presidency. But the meaning of his victory -- in which Obama splashed blue across previously red states -- extends far beyond its racial significance. Obama, a former community organizer and law professor, won the White House as one of the most progressive (or liberal) nominees in the Democratic Party's recent history. Mounting one of the best run presidential bids in decades, Obama tied his support for progressive positions (taxing the wealthy to pay for tax cuts for working Americans, addressing global warming, expanding affordable health insurance, withdrawing troops from Iraq) to calls for cleaning up Washington and for crafting a new type of politics. Charismatic, steady, and confident, he melded substance and style into a winning mix that could be summed up in simple and basic terms: hope and change.

After nearly eight years of George W. Bush's presidency, Obama was the non-Bush: intelligent, curious, thoughtful, deliberate, and competent. His personal narrative -- he was the product of an unconventional family and worked his way into the nation's governing class -- fueled his campaign narrative. His story was the American Dream v2.0. He was change, at least at skin level. But he also championed the end of Bushism. He had opposed the Iraq war. He had opposed Bush's tax cuts for the rich. He was no advocate of let-'er-rip, free market capitalism or American unilateralism. In policy terms, Obama represents a serious course correction.

And more. In the general election campaign, McCain and his running mate, Sarah Palin, turned the fight for the presidency into a culture clash. They accused Obama of being a socialist. They assailed him for having associated with William Ayers, a former, bomb-throwing Weather Underground radical,who has since become an education expert. Palin indirectly referred to Obama's relationship with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, who once preached fiery sermons denouncing the United States government for certain policies. On the campaign trail, Palin suggested there were "real" parts of America and fake parts. At campaign events, she promoted a combative, black-helicopter version of conservatism: if you're for government expansion, you're against freedom. During her one debate with Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, she hinted that if her opponents won the White House there might come a day when kids would ask their grandparents what it had been like to live in a free country. At McCain-Palin rallies, supporters shouted out, "Communist!" and "terrorist!" and "Muslim!" when the Republican candidates referred to Obama. And McCain and Palin hurled the standard charges at Obama: he will raise your taxes and he is weak on national security.

Put it all together and the message was clear: there are two types of Americans. Those who are true Americans -- who love their nation and cherish freedom -- and those who are not. The other Americans do not put their country first; they blame it first. The other Americans do not believe in opportunity; they want to take what you have and give it to someone else. The other Americans do not care about Joe the Plumber; they are out-of-touch elitists who look down on (and laugh at) hard-working, church-going folks. The other Americans do not get the idea of America. They are not patriots. And it just so happens that the other America is full of blacks, Latinos, gays, lesbians, and non-Christians.

McCain, Palin and their compatriots did what they could to depict Obama as the rebel chief of this other un-American America. (Hillary Clinton helped set up their effort during the primaries by beating the Ayers drum.) Remember the stories of Obama's supposed refusal to wear a flag pin or place his hand over his heart for the Pledge of Allegiance? The emails about Obama being a secret Muslim? The goal was to delegitimize Obama, as well as the Americans who were moved by his biography, his rhetoric, and his ideas. It was back to the 1960s -- drawing a harsh line between the squares (the real Americans) and the freaks (those redistribution-loving, terrorist-coddling faux Americans).

It didn't work.

With the nation mired in two wars and beset by a financial crisis, Obama mobilized a diverse coalition that included committed Democratic liberals turned on by his policy stands (unabashed redistributionists, no doubt) and less ideologically-minded voters jazzed by his temperament, meta-themes, and come-together message. He showed that the old Republican attack tactics do not always draw blood. A candidate could advocate raising taxes on wealthy individuals and corporations and withstand being called a socialist. A candidate could advocate talking to the nation's enemies and withstand being tagged weak and dangerous. A candidate could be non-white, have an odd name, boast a less-than-usual ancestry, be an unrepentant Ivy Leaguer, profess a quiet and thoughtful patriotism (that encompasses both love and criticism of country), and still be a real American. And become president.


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David Corn is the Washington bureau chief of Mother Jones and the co-author of Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War and is the author of The Lies of George W. Bush. He writes a blog at davidcorn.com.

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How beautiful it is!
Posted by: tbpmom56 on Nov 5, 2008 12:11 AM   
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What a wonderful thing to see! Maybe there is hope for us yet. Congrats to Senator Obama!

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» RE: How beautiful it is! Posted by: jmooney
» RE: How beautiful it is! Posted by: jmooney
One small caveat to jubilation
Posted by: Figfest on Nov 5, 2008 3:40 AM   
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One group of citizens whose exclusion was enhanced by Tuesday's voting is gay Americans. Measures in California and Florida and elsewhere, enacted with the support of many Obama voters, take away civil rights. That's real. The rest is hope. So forgive me for expressing only modified rapture.

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» It won't be today Posted by: hurricane hugo
» Much ignorance yet to cure Posted by: leafsong1
RE: Then work to minimize unemployment.
Posted by: Cybershaman on Nov 5, 2008 6:51 AM   
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Work to make sure people have incomes that will allow them to pay a mortgage. Create programs that will help people become employed and those jobs actually pay enough to support a family on.

Most of the people you want to label 'deadbeats' are just caught in the dispair of not knowing how to get a decent job. They try, they fail, they get depressed and give up. If you have to lead that horse to water, do it! They may not drink, if the job is just too degrading or abusive, but most only want an opportunity to prove themselves. Instead of creating barriers to employment we should be streamlining the system.

BTW, there is also another class of citizen that is too sick or disabled to work your traditional job. Some need financial assistance. What would you do, throw them off the pier to sink or swim? We need to face this reality and work to help even these people contribute to society, and get paid for it.

Really we all want the same outcome, dignity for all. You may want to 'beat some sense into' that homeless man and scream at him to 'get a job' but I know that will not work. It will only put him on the defensive. Treat him with respect and give him a hand up not a hand out.

Breaking our habitual patterns is very hard to do.

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RE: I'll tell you who the real Americans are not.
Posted by: spaghetti happens on Nov 5, 2008 8:04 AM   
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In a way, I have to agree with you: I have personal knowledge of a guy--a white guy in his mid 40s--who sleeps on his mom's couch and provides for himself with food stamps and by selling the prescription meds he gets free through the county medical program. Shameless indeed. I'll give you his number so you can call him up and give him what-for.

Meantime, why don't you concentrate your anger on the real welfare queens of our society: the giant corporations who suck off the government teat to the tune of billions in tax breaks and sweet government contracts, with most of their money going to stockholders and the top executives. And this while they outsource their former employees' jobs to China, India, and who knows where, and they stash their income--your taxes and mine, my friend--in tax-free offshore banks. Just think "Halliburton moves headquarters to Dubai." Just think "Morgan Stanley bailout funds pay for executive bonuses."

Get a grip, dude. You've been pwned by Reaganism and you obviously can't see it. If I've got any hope in Barack Obama, it's that he's going to put an end to that madness.

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RE: Hey Honky!
Posted by: Quannah on Nov 5, 2008 10:04 AM   
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STFU!!!!!

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RE: I'll tell you who the real Americans are not.
Posted by: Epochalypse on Nov 5, 2008 7:07 PM   
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The fact is that those guys sleeping on their moms couch, the mythical Cadillac welfare mothers, the drugged up welfare recipient,and all the so called leeches of society are such a minuscule percentage of the hundreds of thousands that are genuinely helped through federal policies that they are irrelevant. Certain politicians dutifully march out the few cases of abuse they can find in order to drum up support for their "me/mine" free-for-all world view that in the end is detrimental to our society and all but another tiny fraction of the population. The few cases of abuse do not invalidate those that have been helped. There is also the fact that in a capitalist economy there is the absolute need for a steady rate (typically around 4%) of unemployment. So why not take care of those that are making it possible for you to have the job that you do with the things they need to not die in the street of starvation or exposure and maybe even give them a little dignity, god forbid? So what if they are unemployed/unemployable through situation or choice, they are serving a function of the economy this country adopted and should be treated as such.

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I hope Obama can indeed turn things around for the better.
Posted by: jwverez on Nov 5, 2008 4:32 AM   
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He has a hell of a mountain to climb to do so what with Congress, the Courts, and the media who aren't gonna give him a break unlike the way they gave Dubya plenty of "free" passes despite his pathetic policies. It's gonna be a long and tough ride folks so hang in there.

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No more talk re flag burning, school prayers, etc.....
Posted by: xvictor on Nov 5, 2008 4:41 AM   
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Ever since the Dems won a majority in Congress in 2006, sickening issues such as flag-burning admendment, public school prayers, and pro-life banter had disappeared from the radar screens. Now with a fully staffed Dem Congress and White House in place, those trivial issues will definitely not see the light of day again for the foreseeable future.

At least for that, thank goodness!!!!

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Time for Joyous Celebration!
Posted by: keefus55 on Nov 5, 2008 4:49 AM   
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It is clear from the results of last night's election that, while they still present a formidable force, the racists, homophobes and bigots in our land are now dying in ever-increasing numbers. And, fortunately, they are taking centuries of arrogant intolerance and seething hatred toward anyone who is in any way different than themselves to their graves as well.

For, no matter which way you cut it, the far-right, evangelical so-called "Christian Fundamentalists" no longer rule our land.

Clearly, it is a time for joyous celebration!

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Obama is not the first the black or bi-racial president
Posted by: pure_genius on Nov 5, 2008 4:59 AM   
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Yesterday was a historic day, But not for the reasons that so many think. Yesterday for the first time in American history, a person of color who acknowledged their heritage became president.

Over a half-dozen presidents, including Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson and Warren G. Harding were bi-racial. They were simply "passing for white". Many blacks were able to attain positions in the political and corporate world by doing so.

I am happy to see that a person of color can now be president in America without having to obfuscate their background. That is truly historic. It seems that the media, mainstream or otherwise would just rather stick with "the first black president" line because it sounds better than the truth. The truth shows how much racial perception has changed in politics.

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Obama is fortunate to have a friendly Congress...
Posted by: xvictor on Nov 5, 2008 5:18 AM   
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...by his side. Unlike Bill Clinton, who, for the most part, had to deal with a hostile, Repug-controlled Congress who believed they had a mandate from god. They were more interested in non-issues such as Whitewater and what was lurking behind Clinton's pant zippers, so nothing substantially progressive was accomplished during Bill's terms.

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View of a realistic skeptic
Posted by: 911FalseFlag on Nov 5, 2008 5:46 AM   
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I don't consider myself to be cynical but only a realistic skeptic. If I know there are gaping holes in the 9/11 official conspiracy theory, then the U.S. Congress knows this or is turning its back on this. It is my opinion that "the powers that be" are not the US elected government officials but the Secret Government talked about by Bill Moyers and his 1987 documentary that was aired on PBS. You can watch this video on the homepage of my website. The "powers that be" are also the military-industrial oil private central banking complex.

The "powers that be" will never let the official 9/11 story be truthful just like the truth has never been disseminated by the "powers that be" which now includes the mainstream media about the Gulf of Tonkin lie to compel the US to attack Vietnam, FDR allowing Pearl Harbor to occur so the US would enter World War II,the CIA's overthrow and/or political assassination of any countries leader who would not succumb to the takeover of that country's resources by multinational corporations with the assistance of the World Bank and the international monetary fund, George HW Bush's lies to start the first Gulf War, George HW Bush's involvement in the Iran Contra affair, the assassinations John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Paul Wellstone, John F. Kennedy Jr., the political assassinations of President Clinton (although he is part of the "powers that be")Eliot Spitzer, Gary Hart and Ross Perot.

Obama will not promote any criminal prosecution of George Bush and his criminal administration. That is the deal that he made to become president. Just like Richard Nixon and George HW Bush were let off the hook by their successors.

Obama has said many things that clearly indicate that he believes in the validity of the war against terror.


I just posted an article on my website about why the Republicans were not able to steal this election by computer fraud. There is also a video on my home page regarding this.

Go to 911insidejob.net

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Reality check
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Nov 5, 2008 6:45 AM   
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The reality check is his acceptance speech: a long string of shallow, meaningless, ordinary cliches. From an ordinary politician, I would have expected it, but from Obama who, admittedly, has at least talked a good game and avoided a lot of cliches, I expected better.

In my opinion, even his most loyal followers and crazed optimists should have expected better, including him. Not that I expected substance from an acceptance speech, but if you really think this is a big historic moment, why rattle off a bunch of cliches recycled from past speeches? If it's different this time, why not at least make it sound different? Or is this a gentle way of preparing us for more politics as usual, once the party is over?

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» damn right Posted by: the baron
» RE: eality check Posted by: jmndodge
» RE: eality check Posted by: vkobaya1
» RE: eality check Posted by: nomomorons
freeone
Posted by: marifrance on Nov 5, 2008 7:06 AM   
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A great article, David. You expressed my thoughts & feelings. As an American who lives part time in Paris, I can again lift my head up high & feel hope for my country & the world.

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Hope won out against fear
Posted by: EncinoM on Nov 5, 2008 7:18 AM   
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Obama appealled to our better angels. He reminded Americans what it is like to dream about a better America. He gave us an excuse to to think that maybe there is something better around the corner.

MacCain and Palin, tolds us to be afraid of the world and each other. Obama said that the others are our brothers and sisters, that even if we disagree we are family, for a moment he made religous remember all are children of Abraham, and for the atheist, that hope is possible without divine intervention.

We work tomorrow, today we celebrate.

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The Era of the 'The Dream is Over' 1980- 2008 is Dead
Posted by: Purple Girl on Nov 5, 2008 7:33 AM   
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The final demise of the nightmare we have endured for 28 yrs.
The Day John Lennon died seemed to mark the beginnning of a downward slide away from Our high aspirations and Committments.Liberalism was murdered and the Neo Con's Were Born.
My heart broke that cold Dec day in 1980 and each decaded seemed to fade the dream into obscurity.
WE can Imgaine Once More
President Elect Obama is the embodiement of the JFK era, He is The first President Post Boomers, Chuck Todd is correct. It is Us who watched in such awe and admiration for the social power and movement of the '60's - wished We had had such a Rallying Cry. NOW WE Do and we have the most apt Voice and Mind to help get US there, America's Promise, Pledge, Potential and Destiny.
Yes John, We can Still IMAGINE...Oh YES WE CAN!

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Redefinition . . . Or Definition Catching Up With the Times?
Posted by: ephemeral on Nov 5, 2008 7:56 AM   
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I don't think that it's a redefinition of what it means to be American, but, rather, that the definition is catching up with real life. People have come to America for generations to make the best life they can and to pass on those values to their children. It's no small wonder that someone who's biracial has finally made it into the White House. It was a matter of time. It's also really cool, speaking as someone who is herself biracial, to see someone of mixed decent make it into the big houses of power.

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HtN's incapable of grasping logic
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Nov 5, 2008 9:25 AM   
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so don't waste your time.

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Thanks, David Corn!
Posted by: Quannah on Nov 5, 2008 10:14 AM   
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I feel that, although there will never be a PERFECT PRESIDENT, I am feeling very satisfied today. (Knowing there is so much work to do in the future!)

People should NOT underestimate the symbolic importance of this election, ABOVE the actual importance. I'm very proud of what has transpired. I have hope, once again, in my country!

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The end of The Constitutional Republic... The Rise of The Welfare State
Posted by: Godfather89 on Nov 5, 2008 11:01 AM   
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Well there goes the country. I am no racist I didnt vote McCain either. I think it is great we had overcome our hate (for the most part) of people with different skin color. However, Four years from now things will be just as bad if not worst. Just remember what it means to be an American:

- Independence and Self-Sufficiency (What Our Country Went To War Against Britain with)
- Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness (If government does not protect those ends than it is up to alter or abolish and form a new government)
- Reason (America was founded during the Age of Enlightenment, so educate yourself don't just buy into the dribble that Obama speaks!)

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It's a redefining moment. Don't agree with the author's abstract notions.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Nov 5, 2008 11:54 AM   
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With his decisive triumph over Senator John McCain, Senate Barack Obama made obvious history: he is the first black (or biracial)...

At least the author has gotten off the racially exclusive theme that bigots enjoy trumpeting, though.

We're all one race, we just need to address the injustices and illegal discriminatory practices that our government promotes to achieve true equality under the law.

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Too early to call.
Posted by: Sojourner on Nov 5, 2008 12:57 PM   
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Yes, Obama is a better choice than McCain. Yes, it is good to see that the racists do not always have the last word. Yes, Obama and his people had to work hard to win, and they did. (Yes, Corn was paying attention, as he so punctiliously displays.)

Let’s hope that we ain’t seen nothing yet. Let’s hope that along with winning the campaign, somewhere in the new administration there will be resources to begin to dig our way out of the deep, deep hole in which we planted ourselves. A beginning is all I ask.

Maybe we have squeaked by—still just maybe. Because the electorate operates at such a primitive level that even clear ideas are a burden, all those issues that neither candidate was able to talk about remain far from a political consensus. Iraq? Afghanistan? A bankrupt national treasury? Hordes of Americans out of work, out of their homes, filling the prisons?

American voters, unfortunately, believe the old lyric “Where never is heard a discouraging word.” That means we lie to ourselves and pretend we are real. So, yes, the opportunities are evident. But they have always been evident. We need solutions. Let's get on with it.

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merrill
Posted by: merrill on Nov 5, 2008 1:31 PM   
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Now it's time to force the issues to the front burner!

The issues it seems are:
* Washed up econonomy
* http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home @$341.4 million per day
* Bring all the troops home. The Iraq people know how to rebuild a country and run an oil business. Their oil is not our oil.
*40,000 disabled troops
* More than 4,000 dead troops
*1,000,000 dead Iraq men,women and Children
* Creating new industry that cannot be outsourced
* Cleaner Energy Sources
* National Health Insurance ( Support HR 676)
* Republicans lying about Social Security
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2005/0505orr.html
* Dumping No Child Left Behind
* Restoring Rights of Americans that republicans took away
* Reining in the power of the President
* Restoring the EPA Acts that the republican wiped out
* Restoring the USDA to a credible agency that places consumers over special interest money
* Voter Rights NOT special interest rights:

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Pamela, poet from Australia
Posted by: pvalemont@bigpond.com on Nov 5, 2008 1:32 PM   
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CONGRATULATIONS AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!SO HAPPY AND EXCITED FOR YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!WHAT A MAN, WHAT A HOPE, WHAT A FUTURE FOR AMERICA! I said a couple of days ago, that you should all get some humility over there, realize that you had a lot of sorting out, fixing up and cleaning up of your own back yard to do, that you should stop calling yourself "the greatest nation on earth" because it was laughable, and elect Barack Obama because he was the best person you had over there, the only one who could give you the American Dream, realize the true dream for America.
And last night you DID IT! I knew you could, if you would only wash away your prejudices and fear and see the brilliant and gifted leader who was standing before you. AND I ONLY HAVE TO SAY THIS MORNING THAT WATCHING IT UNFOLD ON TV ALL DAY YESTERDAY WAS THE BEST TELEVISION MOMENT IN MY LIFETIME. YOU CAN RIGHTLY CLAIM NOW THAT YOU ARE THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH, BECAUSE NO OTHER COUNTRY HAS HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OR COURAGE TO ELECT A BIRACIAL MAN OF THAT STATURE, PRESENCE AND TALENT IN A WHITE PREDOMINATED COUNTRY BEFORE IN THE WORLD! BARACK OBAMA IS THE GREATEST SAVIOUR OF THE PEOPLE TO COME FORTH IN MY LIFETIME. AND YOU, THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA, DID IT, YES YOU DID!!!!!!!!!! GOOD ON YOU! LOVE YOU ALL FOR DOING THAT FOR YOURSELVES AND THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD, LOVE HIM AND LOVE HIS FAMILY. GOD BLESS YOU ONE AND ALL, and GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!!!. Pamela Valemont, poet, screenwriter, children's author, numerologist, from Australia.

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Merrill
Posted by: merrill on Nov 5, 2008 1:33 PM   
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Now it's time to force the issues to the front burner.

The issues it seems are:
* Washed up econonomy
* http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home @$341.4 million per day
* Bring all the troops home. The Iraq people know how to rebuild a country and run an oil business. Their oil is not our oil.
*40,000 disabled troops
* More than 4,000 dead troops
*1,000,000 dead Iraq men,women and Children
* Creating new industry that cannot be outsourced
* Cleaner Energy Sources
* National Health Insurance ( Support HR 676)
* Republicans lying about Social Security
http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2005/0505orr.html
* Dumping No Child Left Behind
* Restoring Rights of Americans that republicans took away
* Reining in the power of the President
* Restoring the EPA Acts that the republican wiped out
* Restoring the USDA to a credible agency that places consumers over special interest money
* Voter Rights NOT special interest rights:

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Pamela, poet from Australia
Posted by: pvalemont@bigpond.com on Nov 5, 2008 1:59 PM   
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Perhaps I should have said, in my comment about Barack Obama being the first biracial person to be elected President by a predominantly white country, the first acknowledged biracial person, i.e. Afro American, as I am aware that others have been elected, who were not obviously biracial in appearance and were forced to conceal ( on pain of discrimination and certain rejection) the true facts of their origin from the voting public. This election is historic in that the world has known Obama's ethnic origin, yet his people have gone ahead and elected him on his merits as a man and a leader of his country.

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Good Luck, America!
Posted by: Cathyc on Nov 5, 2008 3:59 PM   
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Barack Obama seems to be the Right Choice for Americans today.

He comes across as the antithesis of Bushco's hate & fear-mongering agenda. If that is what he truly is, then the American people have made the right decision, not only for themselves, but for the rest of the world.

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» RE: Good Luck, America! Posted by: weathered
Beware the pitfalls of irrational exuberance...
Posted by: SevenStarHand on Nov 5, 2008 4:54 PM   
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The financial debacle that is currently unfolding will be beyond any politician's ability to fix, using money and politics.

As I said elsewhere recently:
The head in sand pose may temporarily hide danger from the ostrich, but the hungry lion has no misconceptions about the truly dire nature of that bird's predicament.

Enjoy the high while it lasts. The unfolding crash will be far bigger than you imagine...

Do the math and weep...

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according to professor hunigtoton(of civilizational war infamy) only anglosaxons are american
Posted by: avatar_singh on Nov 5, 2008 6:06 PM   
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Dont's belive me-so the research and then find what that british neocon bastard says about race and america-he is one of the man to spread racila hatred in america.


also as another man commented--"As America teetered on the brink of entering World War II, Charles A. Lindbergh gave a fateful speech that did more damage to the America First movement for peace than all the propagandistic efforts of the pro-war groups he named in Des Moines that day. In his oration, the great aviator and American hero sought to define who and what had brought us to the point of no return:

"The three most important groups who have been pressing this country toward war are the British, the Jewish, and the Roosevelt administration.

"Behind these groups, but of lesser importance, are a number of capitalists, Anglophiles, and intellectuals who believe that the future of mankind depends upon the domination of the British empire. Add to these the Communistic groups who were opposed to intervention until a few weeks ago, and I believe I have named the major war agitators in this country."


"The First World War was by far the bloodiest conflict in human history up to that time. Schwartz and Skinner noted, “Woodrow Wilson proclaimed a war for democracy against ‘Prussian dictatorship,’ but that was propaganda. Germany had civil rights, an elected parliament, competing parties, universal male suffrage, and an unparalleled system of social democracy.” Germany was far more democratic than either the British or French empire."

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» I'm just curious... Posted by: Cathyc
*sigh* optimists....
Posted by: DaBear on Nov 6, 2008 9:32 AM   
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Man, I had to wade through all that horsehockey to get to the real point of the piece?!

Optimists, like liberals, see the world as a water glass half-full.

Pessimists, like good conservatives, see the world as a water glass half full and everyone is out to drink it before they can get to it.

Cynics, like genuine progressives, just want to know what's in the water.

So far that water ain't looking too good. So we gonna be askin' about that from our new "progressive" President. Oh wait, he's already hired a millionaire investment banker as his COS?

Oops never mind, move along here people, nothing to see... Obama will save you from all your troubles... LOL!

David ya drank the kool aid, buddy. It's nice and all that Our Obama's smart, even better that he has isn't melanin-deficient so we can poke the white supremacists in the eye with that day and night. But after Corn's Obama love-fest was over I need a shower...

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