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Election 2008

What an Amazing Moment!

By William Greider, TheNation.com. Posted November 5, 2008.


This election will transform American life in ways we cannot yet fully imagine. It's amazing to be alive at such a promising period in history.
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We are inheritors of this momentous victory, but it was not ours. The laurels properly belong to the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and all of the other martyrs who died for civil rights. And to millions more before them who struggled across centuries and fell short of winning their freedom. And to those rare politicians like Lyndon B. Johnson, who stood up bravely in a decisive time, knowing how much it would cost his political party for years to come. We owe all of them for this moment.

Whatever happens next, Barack Obama has already changed this nation profoundly. Like King before him, the man is a great and brave teacher. Obama developed out of his life experiences a different understanding of the country, and he had the courage to run for president by offering this vision.

For many Americans, it seemed too much to believe, yet he turned out to be right about us. Against all odds, he persuaded a majority of Americans to believe in their own better natures and, by electing him, the people helped make it true. There is mysterious music in democracy when people decide to believe in themselves.

Waiting for the results, we all felt nagging tension, even when we were fairly sure of the outcome. I heard from a newspaper friend, a wise old reporter who never gave in to Washington cynicism. "This election eve night," he wrote, "I feel myself tingling about the prospect of a nation which used to lynch blacks during my lifetime electing a black man president. I so hope it happens, believe it would electrify the world. I think he is the bravest man in the world, perhaps the most foolish one as well…. I worry about him like a Jewish mama."

We heard from another family friend, an African-American woman who teaches law in North Carolina. She reported weeping involuntarily when she saw Obama's picture. Did she know why? She said she saw her adolescent son's face in Obama's. Great moments in history give emotional definition to our lives and we carry those feelings forward with us, our own private meaning of events.

In this way, Obama redefined the country for us, but our responses involved generational differences. For younger people, white and black, his vision seemed entirely straightforward. It is the country they already know, and they expressed great enthusiasm. Finally, they said, a politician who recognizes the racial differences that are part of their lives and no big deal. For young blacks and other minorities, Obama's place at the pinnacle of official power lifts a coarse cloak that has blanketed their lives and dreams -- the stultifying burden of being judged, whether they succeed or fail, on the basis of their race.

For others of us at an advanced age, Obama's success is more shocking. We can see it as a monumental rebuke to tragic history -- the ultimate defeat of "white supremacy."

That vile phrase was embedded in American society (even the Constitution) from the outset and was still in common usage when some of us were young. Now it is officially obsolete. Racism will not disappear entirely, but the Republican "Southern strategy" that marketed racism has been smashed.

Americans will now be able to see themselves differently, North and South, white and black. The changes will spread through American life in ways we cannot yet fully imagine. Let us congratulate ourselves on being alive at such a promising moment.

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William Greider is the author of, most recently, "The Soul of Capitalism" (Simon & Schuster).

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It feels so good again to be ...
Posted by: vot on Nov 5, 2008 12:33 AM   
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This is the greatest Moment in American Politics ever -
this has been my proudest Moment as an American !
After living for almost 40 years in this Country as a naturalized Citizen,I honestly can say that,with the election of Barack Obama as President,was and will be
my proudest Day since I became an American Citizen !
Today I realized that Dream all over again and what I
truly belief that what makes one feel so proud to say:
I AM an AMERICAN ...and " Long live the new President " !

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» RE: It feels so good again to be ... Posted by: nochicagoboys
The rest of us can breathe a sigh of relief, today.
Posted by: Squarehead on Nov 5, 2008 12:52 AM   
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America, you done good.

The rest of us can breathe a sigh of relief, today.

Tomorrow, the work continues

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the nightmare is over
Posted by: trained ape on Nov 5, 2008 12:57 AM   
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Go!! Al Franken!!

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» RE: the nightmare is over Posted by: aonghus36
The Light At The End Of The Tunnel
Posted by: skizum on Nov 5, 2008 1:08 AM   
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Great, congrats to us all! Now maybe there is some hope that we can make some real fundamental changes to the fabric of our society by exploring the most basic catalyst of everything; human behavior. The Universal Humane Needs Assessment project is an endeavor to specifically identify, broadly verify, widely disseminate and utilize an intuitively understandable set of needs and experiences universal to humankind. Identifying the metaphoric equivalent of, a 'periodic table' of human elements, is a critically fundamental basis from which we can start to reexamine, monitor and influence our behavior to live more humanely balanced lives as individuals and create more sustainable humane economic, social, cultural, legal and political constructs as societies.

In the meantime, we need to keep up the pressure to hold our politicians and ourselves responsible in creating a vision of an America that is just and balanced.

Be well, stay informed and stay active. Obama and a new administration are only enablers for a potential mass movement; it is us, "We The People," who need to step up and make change reality.

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» Hear, hear! Posted by: annie68
"Barack Obama has already changed this nation profoundly"
Posted by: socialpsych on Nov 5, 2008 1:23 AM   
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Correction: WE THE PEOPLE are in the process of changing this nation profoundly. We can't depend on ANYONE inside the Beltway to do anything except take care of America's business, which of course is business. As many, many AlterNet posters have observed over these last weeks, we MUST hold the Obama administration's feet to the fire. And Congress's feet, too. Never let up!

Cheers to all!

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» nochicagoboys Posted by: socialpsych
While you make pretty speeches, I'm being cut to shreds.
Posted by: Physiocrat on Nov 5, 2008 1:41 AM   
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So what happens when the popcorn runs out and the theater lights come back on?

This movie has to end sometime, you know...

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» try listening to the pretty speaches Posted by: wefearwhatwedontunderstand
» RE: you are a moron Posted by: Tom Tele
» RE: you are a moron Posted by: Xynyx
» Sounds like yours just has Posted by: westomoon
You feed me to the lions, a delicate balance.
Posted by: Physiocrat on Nov 5, 2008 1:48 AM   
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Anyone else feel that America is in the middle of a sort-of surreal mass psychotic episode?

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» RE: If Delay's Your salvation... Posted by: Purple Girl
» Got a flag to fly? Posted by: RossB
» RE: Got a flag to fly? Posted by: Vik
» RE: No, we are Awaking from One Posted by: Purple Girl
» Right on as usual Beck! Posted by: PaulC
» HaHaHa! Been there! n/m Posted by: PaulC
» RE: ight on as usual Beck! Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Sorry, babs-- Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Physiocrat... Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Physiocrat... TROLL Posted by: Xynyx
When this just feels like spinning plates. I'm living in cloud cuckoo land.
Posted by: Physiocrat on Nov 5, 2008 1:52 AM   
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Anyone else have the same deeply intuitive feeling that there is something quite untrustworthy and underhanded about Obama, a man we really don't know very much about because of his lack of a record in public life?

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» RE: That's right... Posted by: Cybershaman
» You are living in a dream world Posted by: leafsong1
» Unadulterated Leftism Posted by: Sparks56
» Hey Blink! Posted by: Jayzer
» What you see is what you get! Posted by: 2thepoint
» Wu-u-ut? Posted by: leafsong1
» RE: Apparently Not Posted by: Purple Girl
» What you are experiencing Posted by: mountainmama
» to answer your question: Posted by: hurricane hugo
» the answer, NO Posted by: Tom Tele
» In a word? No. Posted by: Smackback
» Consider This Posted by: Ethical1
» NO Posted by: leafsong1
Wohoooooo!
Posted by: CosmoViking on Nov 5, 2008 3:12 AM   
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Never say you can't break the status quo. Now e-mail or send a proper letter to transition team chief John Podesta about progressive politics, the enviroment, corporate rule, tax breaks & the military industrial complex and a full frontal executive-level assault on the culture of secrecy, Homeland Gestapo Security and technology suppression.

He's REALLY into those things ;o) He even appears at serious UFO conferences from time to time.

Congratulations -- we're so happy for this amazing new prospect for America.

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» RE: Wohoooooo! Amen! Don't let up! Posted by: CosmoViking
My lord, what a morning!
Posted by: hagwind on Nov 5, 2008 3:14 AM   
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William Grieder's column was the first thing I read after I woke up. It's wonderful. No hyperbole, just honest response from the gut, heart, mind, and soul.

Wow.

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What I want to know is
Posted by: Fishbone Soldier on Nov 5, 2008 3:51 AM   
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Where are those people who, during the primaries, were clogging the Alternet message boards with repetitive comments about how Obama was the wrong choice because he won't be able to survive "The GOP attack machine." One of 'em kept listing all Obama's advisers, claiming they had shady histories, and how Rezko was going to bring him down. They were awfully sure of themselves. And I'm ecstatic that they turned out wrong (perhaps they are as well!).

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One Small Step For Man, One Giant leap For Mankind
Posted by: anarchris on Nov 5, 2008 4:04 AM   
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As i stand before you now,
I stand upon two continents
I stretch across two centuries
And two peoples
Become one
In me
Behind me gathering sugar cane
Beside me in a freedom march
In front of me
Behold! A black family
Walks into the white house

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Clinton Deregulated the Banks
Posted by: chomsky on Nov 5, 2008 4:15 AM   
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Damn I didn't think he would win, ever. I just hope he doesn't get killed.

Not an Obama fan but he is in my view the lesser of two evils. With McCain and the frightening Sarah Palin, Armageddon was more likely.

Both Democrates and Republicans get funded by the same corporations.

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» RE: Clinton Deregulated the Banks Posted by: Cybershaman
» community organizer Posted by: wefearwhatwedontunderstand
» RE: Clinton Deregulated the Banks Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: Clinton Deregulated the Banks Posted by: AkamaiAthiest
This Morning America May Feel Euphoria About An Evil That Has Been Exorcised
Posted by: opmoc on Nov 5, 2008 4:17 AM   
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But the damage that has been done is extremely severe.

Millions of innocent people have had their lives totally destroyed due to the most appalling evil inflicted on them from the invasion of their Country to steal their oil.

Black Americans are not a lower form of life. Neither are Iraqi's.

How is America going to try and heal the damage?

The list of everything evil that needs to be put right is so long that it makes me ashamed to be a member of the human race.

The Economy of almost the entire World has been so completely destroyed that we are all on the brink of catastrophe.

Not only does everything that is wrong need to be put right, but the Criminals in High Places that deliberately caused this destruction ultimately need to be brought to Justice.

It is these people that are the lower form of life and their wealth and power should not be an obstacle to them being tried for High Treason.

Americans don't seem to realise how low they have sunk. They even torture people as if they are back in the Dark Ages.

Obama is an unknown. I can only hope that he has the courage to try and make the right choices. However I fear that he has been purposefully chosen by the most powerful people on the planet to lead us even further away from liberty to a World Wide Dictatorship of enslavement.

One World, One Bank, One Currency, One Monopoly of Power. No Escape.

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» RE: This isn't like you. Posted by: Longdream
I think Obama will be a moderate ala JFK.
Posted by: jwverez on Nov 5, 2008 4:30 AM   
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We gotta remember that like Texas, America was never a completely liberal nation. However, the least that Obama can do is push for a change to moderate it from conservative to moderate.

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The Funeral March for the Repugs is on!!!
Posted by: xvictor on Nov 5, 2008 4:35 AM   
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New York City was enveloped in a dark, funeral-like mood just after the last two prez elections when Bush had managed to steal the White House from the Dems. Last night's festivities in bars and in the streets was a marked change from those dark, somber times.

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» RE: Let's hope... Posted by: Cybershaman
Yes, it is an amazing moment
Posted by: taxidriver on Nov 5, 2008 4:37 AM   
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It's amazing because a majority of Americans chose hope over fear. They looked within and to the future, instead of without and to the past.

The irony is that, in choosing Palin and running an often mean-spirited campaign, McCain actually helped Obama to win.

Maybe the Republicans will learn that dividing Americans and aggravating their fears is no longer the way to win. Maybe.

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Theo-Fascism is Dead
Posted by: bobtr900 on Nov 5, 2008 4:44 AM   
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Theo-Fascism is dead. Saint Reagan and Bush Theo-Fascism is dead.
The Family of Man may yet survive the Armageddonists and the Rapturists whose agenda of hate and divisiveness is over. The Repubs and their Religious Right may not know what they think they know. Religious fundamentalism is dead.

Obama-Biden 08 is a victory.

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» RE: Theo-Fascism is Dead Posted by: Tom Tele
» Watch St. Sarah Posted by: Sparks56
» RE: Watch St. Sarah Posted by: Bibsisis
No Hangover
Posted by: robchapman on Nov 5, 2008 4:45 AM   
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After two years of work and campaigning, the Democratic campaign 08 has come to a successful end.

It is fitting to enjoy the glow and bask in the warm feelings that accompany accomplishment.

BUT

We must recall that the purpose of this campaign was to take over the government.

Now we must govern. Every Democrat and every Obama supporter must now exercise restraint and show the dignity and fairness in victory that will mark us as magnanimous victors.

We simply cannot afford to allow our celebrations to offend our political opponents. We will need them in the coming months as we work to undo the damage left by the previous administration.

Robert Chapman
Lansing, NY

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» RE: No Hangover Posted by: peacefullaim
» We need them--in prison Posted by: leafsong1
» RE: No Hangover Posted by: Longdream
» RE: No Hangover Posted by: Bibsisis
Americans are better than many give US Credit for
Posted by: Purple Girl on Nov 5, 2008 4:56 AM   
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We are better the the Media portrays US
We are Better than those Who have been Representing US
We are better than those who berate US
We are better than our Reputation which proceeds US
WE are better than even Our History could have predicted about US
Never Underestimate US
Never Count US Out
Never Tell US how We think
Never assume How We will Act

God did Bless America with the heart mind and Soul to exceed even our most Avid Proponents wildest Dreams.

After nearly 30 years of the oppressive Feudal system of Trickle Down
After 221 yrs of Equality Imbalance
We are Free At last to live up to Our Own Expectations and Our Founders vision of a More Perfect Union.

Chuck Todd you are correct, This is the First Post Boomer Presidency. We are the Children of the Younger Kid sister or brother of the 'Greatest Generation', Cousins of the Boomers. We are those Born When another President Called to Americans to 'Ask Not What Your Country can Do for You, But what You can do for your Country'.No other life story could epitomize his Presidential legacy more Than Our 44th President Elect.
But the 'Road will be long, the hills Steep' but We shall Overcome.We have alot of Challenges ahead of US,So roll up your sleeves, it's time for Work
Welcome to the New Millenia

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This is just the beginning - good work, tho.
Posted by: gunboat diplomat on Nov 5, 2008 5:01 AM   
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What do you think the lobbyists in Washington are doing right now? They're not celebrating, they're putting on their working boots. They're angling to get their people in cabinet posts, and find new Senators to push their legislative packaged. They're making lists of appropriate people to regulate Big Pharma and Big Oil and other lists of people they don't want at the FDA or the EPA.

There will also be a last-minute effort to loot the Treasury by the exiting BushCo team. Where is that $700 billion bailout going to? What about the billions in Iraqi reconstruction contracts that Congress never looked into? (Congress never likes to look into government contracting to their cronies - which is why you get spectacles like the downfall of high-riding Randy "Duke" Cunningham - they think they can get away with anything).

So, good job, cheers, but there is a stable of rot and corruption that needs flushing out.

Remember, this is just one victory for democracy after a long string of defeats. Defeats for democracy include the rotten trade and foreign policies of the U.S. establishment in Congress and the White House, the grossly inflated contracts for the defense industry (Cold War era military spending just won't quit), the undermining of U.S public health care by corporate interests (pharmaceuticals and insurance), a war in Iraq based on lies, etc.

This is the end of an era. Pax Americana - the Cold War "city on a hill" ideology is over, and you could look at the entire Bush-Cheney administration and their failed attempt at military domination of the Middle East and Central Asia as just the last gasp of those dinosaurs. They were never happy about the Berlin Wall coming down in 1989, were they.

Yes, there was that 9/11 thing - a devastating act of terrorism carried out by a small insular group attached to Al Qaeda, organized by Khalid Sheik Mohammed... which involved Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Afghanistan, and had nothing to do with Saddam's Iraq. There was also a series of anthrax attacks, designed to look like an Islamic terrorist attack, but actually sourced out of a U.S. government biowarfare lab (and we still don't know who was responsible) - and those anthrax attacks were used to whip up fear over non-existent Iraqi biological and nuclear weapon programs - "ready to attack us in 45 minutes."

In other words, the response to those attacks was not to find the guilty parties, but to use them to pursue a pre-existing agenda of aggressive warfare.

None of that has ever had a public airing. Great crimes were committed - and is it really the case that we can say "let's just forget about it and forgive the people responsible?"

Is that really the plan? If murder goes unpunished in the name of national unity, no good will come of it. The rule of law matters, and it cannot be a two-tiered system - one for the politically connected and the wealthy, the other for normal citizens. There will have to be a more complete discussion of what happened and why - and if that means jail time for BushCo, that's what it means.

This is a momentous historical event, though. It's like our equivalent of the fall of the Berlin Wall - nothing will ever be the same again.

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» celebration Posted by: socialpsych
Upali Magedaragamage
Posted by: Upalimag on Nov 5, 2008 5:08 AM   
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“As for the best leaders, the people do not notice their existence,The next best, the people honour and praise,The next, the people fear; and the next, the people hate”.

When the best leader’s work is done the people say ‘We did it ourselves!’

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» RE: Upali Magedaragamage Posted by: peacefullaim
» RE: Upali Magedaragamage Posted by: Bibsisis
Congrats Obama..
Posted by: 2thepoint on Nov 5, 2008 5:10 AM   
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LBJ had little to do with this..he was essentially an old boy southern poltician that followed a path laid out by JFK. He is probably the worst President this country has had in modern times.

The real people to credit are those minorities that successfully ran companies, held offices etc and showed that color doesn't matter. Also credit the millions of white voters that saw past color and what this person could accomplish.

We also have Bush to thank for had he not totally screwed up as a leader the door might not yet be opened for Obama!

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» RE: Congrats Obama.. Posted by: Tom Tele
» RE: Congrats Obama.. Posted by: Bibsisis
X-POLYGAMIST WIFE in ARIZONA
Posted by: X-POLYGAMIST WIFE on Nov 5, 2008 5:22 AM   
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OBAMA !!! OBAMA !!! OBAMA !!!

Thank you, America, thank you!

Now there's HOPE for victims of polygamy in Colorado City, Arizona and Utah.

OBAMA USA - HALLELUJAH

BANKING ON HEAVEN . COM

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» Sign me up. Posted by: yale
» RE: Sign me up. Posted by: Resistance
» RE: Sign me up. Posted by: yale
» RE: Sign me up. Posted by: Resistance
View of A Realistic Skeptic (like George Carlin)
Posted by: 911FalseFlag on Nov 5, 2008 5:43 AM   
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I don't consider myself to be cynical but only a realistic skeptic. If I know there are gaping holes in the 9/11 official conspiracy theory, then the U.S. Congress knows this or is turning its back on this. It is my opinion that "the powers that be" are not the US elected government officials but the Secret Government talked about by Bill Moyers and his 1987 documentary that was aired on PBS. You can watch this video on the homepage of my website. The "powers that be" are also the military-industrial oil private central banking complex.

The "powers that be" will never let the official 9/11 story be truthful just like the truth has never been disseminated by the "powers that be" which now includes the mainstream media about the Gulf of Tonkin lie to compel the US to attack Vietnam, FDR allowing Pearl Harbor to occur so the US would enter World War II,the CIA's overthrow and/or political assassination of any countries leader who would not succumb to the takeover of that country's resources by multinational corporations with the assistance of the World Bank and the international monetary fund, George HW Bush's lies to start the first Gulf War, George HW Bush's involvement in the Iran Contra affair, the assassinations John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Paul Wellstone, John F. Kennedy Jr., the political assassinations of President Clinton (although he is part of the "powers that be")Eliot Spitzer, Gary Hart and Ross Perot.

Obama will not promote any criminal prosecution of George Bush and his criminal administration. That is the deal that he made to become president. Just like Richard Nixon and George HW Bush were let off the hook by their successors.

Obama has said many things that clearly indicate that he believes in the validity of the war against terror.


I just posted an article on my website about why the Republicans were not able to steal this election by computer fraud. There is also a video on my home page regarding this.

Go to 911insidejob.net

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» Beck on Nader Posted by: Bliss Doubt
» Truthies vs. Falsies Posted by: Bliss Doubt
Hold your enthusiasm
Posted by: Razst on Nov 5, 2008 5:51 AM   
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While all you people oooh and aaah about the ultimate wisdom of the American electorate, consider the fact that gay marriage has been banned in Florida, proposition 8 is soon to become law, and that a good half of the population is still guided by hate, intolerance and ignorance. Give the luster a few days to dull, and then tell me how proud you all are to be Americans where anything is still possible.

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» Thanks Posted by: kepstein7777
» RE: Hold your enthusiasm Posted by: the baron
» RE: Hold your enthusiasm Posted by: Tom Tele
» RE: Hold your enthusiasm Posted by: Shey
WE have the mandate!!!
Posted by: xvictor on Nov 5, 2008 6:12 AM   
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Obama and the Dems has validly and demonstrably earned what the shrieking neo-con reichwingers had always howled for and delusionally thought they had: a MANDATE FROM THE PEOPLE!!

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Friends (?) and Family
Posted by: reinaldok on Nov 5, 2008 6:15 AM   
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This certainly should be a time of great rejoicing. Logically it should be a time to end the awful divisive struggle and put all the terrible nastiness behind us. But no - many, many are still filled with bitterness and maybe even greed. It is only 9:15 on the first day after the once in a lifetime election and I have already received four calls from FRIENDS (?) and FAMILY members. Screaming out the same rubbish. The Nxxx word - the mocking religious slime. We most certainly have our work cut out for us if we think that the ultra bigots will just go away quietly. Hasta cuando?

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Pogo-ism Revised
Posted by: Fetchcat on Nov 5, 2008 6:23 AM   
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Pogo of the comics famously said "We have met the enemy, and he is us."

That seemed to be too true over the past eight years. After last night, I believe we can say "We have met the savior, and he is us."

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Cynical though I am, even I find this a time for rejoicing.
Posted by: andabottleof_rum on Nov 5, 2008 6:26 AM   
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The weird part of me that wants to think life is meaningful despite lack of scientific evidence is wont to believe maybe Bush's awful role in destiny was to pave the way for Obama. At least this gives meaning to the needless suffering Bush has caused.

But enough with this kind of thinking! Now the real work begins of trying to create something from the situation in this country, and the world, finds itself. We need a new social safety net, checks on corporate power, investment in renewable energy and infrastructure, a more conciliatory stance on international relations, and a new spirit of public service among the populace.

This is a tall order. However Obama has a lot of political capital now to play with. He must not give in to conservative excuses about how we cannot afford reform anymore. If government can pull $700 billion from their rectums for Wall St., they can conjure up large investments for the more useful programs I listed above.

It's a matter of priorities. Corporate America and the military, in this order, have been the far and away highest priorities of the U.S. government for too long. We need to transfer a good portion of the concern allocated to those areas to more humane and basic tasks.

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A Sigh Of Relief
Posted by: Last Chance on Nov 5, 2008 6:40 AM   
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With the election of this splendid, brilliant gentleman, maybe there is still a chance the human race can survive its madness and learn to live in prace and balance on the Earth.

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» RE: A Sigh Of Relief Posted by: Dboy
» Nonsense! Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: Nonsense! Posted by: -matti
» RE: A Sigh Of Relief Posted by: Shey
Is this what it felt like when JFK won?
Posted by: Live Gently on Nov 5, 2008 6:43 AM   
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I remember the joy I felt when Bill Clinton was elected, it was the first time someone I voted for won. I know that I shared that dubious honor with thousands of others.
But what I felt last night and continue to feel this morning is so very different. I am filled with hope. I am filled with joy. I am filled with pride for my neices and nephews who voted in their first election. This is the dawning of a new age. We have shown the world that no longer are we going to tolerate lies or allow fear to be the basis for making our decisions. We are taking back our country. For those of you who are a bit older than me, is this what it felt like when JFK won?

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» Oh, it's MUCH better! Posted by: westomoon
IS THIS A GREAT COUNTRY OR WHAT???
Posted by: Tom Degan on Nov 5, 2008 6:48 AM   
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The shreaders in the White House are now working overtime.

I woke up this morning thinking it had all been a dream. And so it was.

A DREAM COME TRUE, BABY!!!

Wake up and face the dawn!

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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stepped back from the cliff
Posted by: sunspot on Nov 5, 2008 6:55 AM   
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I feel like we, as a nation, stepped back from the edge of the cliff leading to the Abyss. We have nowhere to go but UP. We have the opportunity to remake the government and ourselves as just, compassionate, and wise. Maybe it will take time to win over the greedy and the bigots. Maybe it will happen fast, like a tsunami wave. Who knows what happens when HOPE energizes a people? Yesterday I had faith as small as a mustard seed. Today I believe we can move mountains.

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» That's exactly how I feel Posted by: Smackback
At least two, possibly 4 more years of two branches of government effectively...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Nov 5, 2008 6:55 AM   
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...never saying no to one another.

We can cross our fingers and hope that the complete absence of thoughtful deliberation exercised by the democrats in the next four years takes us down a better road than it has for the most of the last six, under republican domination.

Here's to hope.

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WHAT A DIFFERENCE A DAY MAKES
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Nov 5, 2008 7:01 AM   
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The crowds and the lines and the victory were everything I was expecting, except when I had brief moments of doubt that made me wonder. So watching everything unfold last night was like a miracle. It's nice to like our president again and want to hear what he has to say. A decent man who's not a global embarassment. The rest of the world is just as happy as we are and that can only be good. Thanks, ANNA

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» Anna Posted by: socialpsych
» RE: Anna Posted by: Beck
Michelle Obama's dress was horrible!
Posted by: Bliss Doubt on Nov 5, 2008 7:06 AM   
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It doesn't matter. Michelle Obama is the most beautiful first lady ever in the history of the world, and those two little girls are absolutely angelic, bless them.

I voted for Nader but I feel hopeful that Obama will try to do right by our country. We'll see. The most important issues of our time were never again mentioned by him once the primaries were over. I think at some point he was taken aside and told "you can have this thing, but you have to back off from some of your rhetoric".

I suspect that Obama started out as a sincere reformer, and subsequently became the pick of the corporatocracy, but again, I'm hopeful. Thank GAWD McCain didn't win.

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Thank You President-elect Obama
Posted by: bookie on Nov 5, 2008 7:13 AM   
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You've brought hope back to the world. I watched you win last night with tears of joy. I woke up this morning with a goofy smile on my face. Today is a day to celebrate and savor.

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congrats America!!!
Posted by: ellie on Nov 5, 2008 7:14 AM   
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the kool aid is finally washed down the drain... from the folks I spoke to and interacted with so far today, the feeling is like we've all been liberated like the crashing down of the berlin wall...

freedom!! we did it, we staged a one day revolution without a shot being fired... we staged a coup!!!

today celebrate freedom, but keep your powder dry... hey isn't that wadded up piece of paper in the trash the constitution??? time to iron out the wrinkles and use it!!!

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Obama has a great mandate from the people to enact change, backed by a Democratic Congress!
Posted by: PaulC on Nov 5, 2008 7:23 AM   
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What more could we ask for?!!

Beyond legislative work, do not forget that Bush has been abusing the power of the executive branch to rape the environment. Obama has the power to immediately reverse eight years of corruption, such as Mountain Top Removal Mining.

Let's hope that Obama relies on integrity and principle in addition to expertise when he chooses his cabinet. I would love to see Stiglitz in the mix, for example.

I took heart when the second thing he mentioned as a priority in his acceptance speech was that the well-being of the planet was at risk. This guy gets it. That is what gives me such great hope!

peace,
Paul

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Three little words
Posted by: EncinoM on Nov 5, 2008 7:43 AM   
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"yes we can" says everything. It is a rally cry, not of what one man can do, but what we as a nation, as a people can do. It speaks to out better nature and to our hopes for tomorrow. It carrys with it burden to improve ourselves, but with the aid of others.

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» RE: Three little words Posted by: symcokid
» RE: EncinoM... Posted by: Quannah
Genocidal Americans party as Afghans are slaughtered by their troops
Posted by: 876 on Nov 5, 2008 8:03 AM   
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On Tuesday Americans murder yet another 50+ Afghans on an attack on a wedding party. Meanwhile in the US millions of Americans drink and dance and rejoice having just elected a man who won votes by promising to murder more impoverished people in Afghanistan and Pakistan. You filthy bloody bastards may you choke on your change! What “change” do self satisfied genocidal animals offer the destitute people of Afghanistan!!!!

How dare you celebrate and self congratulate happy in the notion of more for yourselves as you murder others!

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Congrats, er, i think...
Posted by: andrewstromotich on Nov 5, 2008 8:03 AM   
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well he's better thsn bush i think, and i know he's better thsn mccain.

but don't forget in your euphoria, that he wants to expand the war on terror in a big way in afghanistan, he supports the illegal (was anyways) wiretapping of americans, he called for Jerusalem to be the undivided capital of Israel (not even the repubs called for that!), and he's talking about spending more on the military...

he is the favored candidate of crooks and liars like colin powell and many corporate interests.

I think alot of people voted for him symbolically as a black man, but that is called racism. He's not MLK, he's not Jesse Jackson, he's not Fred Hampton (i don't think any of those guys would have been pro military, pro war, pro death penalty). he is just another millionaire in a long line of millionaire's to take the office.

It's not real change, it's just another democrat. But, as a few astute folks i know pointed out when i was pointing out his many shortcomings, he was the ONLY candidate that could put a spit polish on the old tired illusion of the AMERICAN DREAM, and resell it to an american populous ready to revolt, thus pacifying them yet again...

I hope I am wrong, I hope the american president that raised more money than any other in history will be the revolutionary america needs, but it does not look good.

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Congrats, er, i think...
Posted by: andrewstromotich on Nov 5, 2008 8:03 AM   
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well he's better thsn bush i think, and i know he's better thsn mccain.

but don't forget in your euphoria, that he wants to expand the war on terror in a big way in afghanistan, he supports the illegal (was anyways) wiretapping of americans, he called for Jerusalem to be the undivided capital of Israel (not even the repubs called for that!), and he's talking about spending more on the military...

he is the favored candidate of crooks and liars like colin powell and many corporate interests.

I think alot of people voted for him symbolically as a black man, but that is called racism. He's not MLK, he's not Jesse Jackson, he's not Fred Hampton (i don't think any of those guys would have been pro military, pro war, pro death penalty). he is just another millionaire in a long line of millionaire's to take the office.

It's not real change, it's just another democrat. But, as a few astute folks i know pointed out when i was pointing out his many shortcomings, he was the ONLY candidate that could put a spit polish on the old tired illusion of the AMERICAN DREAM, and resell it to an american populous ready to revolt, thus pacifying them yet again...

I hope I am wrong, I hope the american president that raised more money than any other in history will be the revolutionary america needs, but it does not look good.

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Worried about Color-Blind-Racism
Posted by: mcstewey on Nov 5, 2008 8:09 AM   
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I am cautiously excited about the positive direction and possibilities of our nation. I know that change will not be swift when the culture of consumer capitalism, racism and sexism pervades all of our institutions...yet I am hopeful.
But I am most worried about how whites will react; I fear they will claim that racial discrimination is over, that we have reached complete racial equality in our society. Moreover, many Americans ALREADY believe this. Systems of white preference and privilige still pervade most of our institutions. A "black" man being elected president is - no doubt - an historical and powerful shift in the right direction, but I fear that it will further hide systems of white privilege.

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» RE: Worried about Color-Blind-Racism Posted by: andrewstromotich
Credit goes to W
Posted by: tim_s_eb@yahoo.com on Nov 5, 2008 8:17 AM   
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We must not forget the contributions of this fool named George W. Bush, he accelerated the demise of darkness by exercising the most hideous and devious side of Capitalism, in a way he pulled the curtains on the wizard wide and high in just 8 years time. He doesn't deserve a thank you but unbeknownst to himself he has helped us see who was behind the curtain. He has revealed to the entire world the ugly face of American Capitalist System.

He, Cheney and the rest of the Neocon gang all deserve to be in the guilloches they helped to create.

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We dodged a bullet, but barely
Posted by: tgranger on Nov 5, 2008 8:35 AM   
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I wept at the notice that Obama had finally pulled it off. My bags were packed and I was ready to leave the country if McCain won. We were at step 7 of the documented 10 step slide into Facism. And we have halted it! Stay awake America we have lots of cleaning up to do if the power of the Bill of Rights is to be restored to its rightful state of reverence. Putting the results in context, we stopped the Facists by a 3% margin out of 100 million votes. A house divided against itself cannot stand and it will take at least two Obama Administrations to heal the damage. Stay awake and stay at work. A democracy requires participation! Donate, stay in the loop, speak the language of unity, support our President no matter what your party line is. HE IS OUR PRESIDENT!

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And now for the important issue.....
Posted by: richard0a37 on Nov 5, 2008 8:53 AM   
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In good democratic tradition, Obama follows Clinton and Kennedy who were charismatic and had brains in their heads; unlike Sarah Palin who, had she become VP, would have been like handing a pedophile the keys to an orphanage.

However, whereas Kennedy never actually got caught on the job, Clinton was very nearly brought down by his amorous associations with Monica Lewinsky, and I am just wondering if Obama will also develop similar tastes for extra-marital pussy.

Hopefully, his wife will know just where the 1st Lady's primary duties lay (or is it lie), and what kind of positions she needs to adopt to ensure he has no need to mix politics with pleasure.

However, there is possibly a little known clause which says 'what's the point in being the president if you can't'

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Reactions to this great time in History...
Posted by: Yam on Nov 5, 2008 9:33 AM   
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I work in Florida, who I was happy to see turn blue. I understood that with this election, some people would be extremely happy and another set, extremely mad. I didn't expect ignorance to enter the work place. All morning I heard, 'I already pay for lazy people, now i have to pay for their insurance', 'can you believe his last name is Hueissen', 'it's going to be the worst 4 years', 'it's almost certain he won't make it through his term', and lastly in a meeting, 'didn't hell freeze over last night' to which some people in the room laughed (a small few) and others (myself included) winced at the ignorance, and laughed on the inside . For people who feel like this, I love this moment even more. I wonder what their excuse will be in 4 years when he's done the best job anyone who inherits all the issues of this country can do? Probably no different because their ignorance will remain.

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» You are a very silly person Posted by: leafsong1
I love reading the trolls sound all depressed
Posted by: Tom Tele on Nov 5, 2008 10:03 AM   
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I know it is bad but I love reading the depressed comments of Rethuigs. They get to feel what we felt so often in the last 27 years.

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» "Naderites" NOT depresssed. Posted by: -matti
» Who's an idiot Posted by: Bliss Doubt
» RE: I'm not a depressed Naderite Posted by: Bliss Doubt
The Audacity of Hype
Posted by: chlamor on Nov 5, 2008 10:06 AM   
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If the Democrats’ candidate in 2008 is Obama, we can be sure that the right-wing Republican noise machine will denounce the nation’s potential first non-white male president as a dangerous “leftist.” The charge will be absurd, something that will hardly stop numerous people on the portside of the narrow U.S. political spectrum from claiming Obama as a fellow “progressive.” Certain to be encouraged by Obama and his handlers, this confusion will reflect the desperation and myopia that shaky thinking and the limited choices of the U.S. electoral system regularly instill in liberals and some squishy near leftists.

So what sorts of policies and values could one expect from an imagined Obama presidency? There is quite a bit already in Obama’s short national career that has to be placed in the “never mind” category if one is to seriously believe his claim (cautiously advanced in The Audacity of Hope) to be a “progressive” concerned with “social and economic justice” and global peace.

Last August, Obama audaciously told thousands of labor union members at Chicago's Soldier Field that he was "running for president...because of you, not because of folks who are writing big checks." He made a big point of the fact that he "does not take money from corporate lobbyists," unlike business-friendly Hillary Clinton.

He uttered his worker-pleasing words even as his campaign was bending with fierce plutocratic winds fanned by giant global investment firms and corporations that were helping him join leading corporate Democrat Clinton in setting new electoral fundraising records.

Ever wonder why the "progressive" (as he repeatedly describes himself) Obama dances for Wall Street on the (fake) Social Security "crisis" and sounds like Mitt Romney and Rudy Guliani in decrying the specter of "government mandated" universal health care? Curious about why the avowed environmentalist thinks that nuclear power should be considered part of the solution to America's energy crisis and joined Hillary in voting for the extension of the corporate-neoliberal North American Free Trade Agreement to Peru?

FOLLOW THE MONEY

Obama's presidential campaign has received nearly $5 million dollars from securities and investment firms and $866,000 from commercial banks through October of 2007. Obama's top contributor so far is Goldman Sachs (provider of $369,078 to Obama), identified by Center for Responsive Politics (CRP) investigators as "a major proponent of privatizing Social Security as well as legislation that would essentially deregulate the investment banking/securities industry." Eight of Obama's top twenty election investors are securities and investment firms: Goldman Sachs, Lehman Bros. (#2 at $229,090), J.P. Morgan Chase and Co. (# 4 at $216,759), Citadel Investment Group (#7 at 4166,608), UBS AG ($146,150), UBS-America ($106,680), Morgan Stanley ($104,421), and Credit Suisse Group ($92,300). The last two firms are also known to be leading privatization advocates.

Meanwhile, Obama's presidential run has been "assisted" by more than $2 million from the health care sector and nearly $400,000 from the insurance industry through October of 2007. Obama received $708,000 from medical and insurance interests between 2001 and 2006.
And Obama's sixth largest contributor is Exelon, the proud Chicago-based owner and operator of more nuclear power plants than any entity on earth.

Go figure.

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» And yet... Posted by: westomoon
» RE: The Audacity of Hype Posted by: Shey
Are we to ignore the facts about Obama?
Posted by: chlamor on Nov 5, 2008 10:15 AM   
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When politicians offer nothing, and the people demand nothing, then the powers-that-be are free to continue doing whatever they choose. The death knell of participatory politics can often be a very noisy, celebratory affair - such as we have witnessed in the call-and-response ritual of "Change!" "Hope!" and other exuberant but insubstantial campaign exercises.

After more than four years of observing Obama's descent from vaguely progressive rhetoric to shameless pandering and vapid "Change!" mantra nonsense are we to ignore the facts on the ground stick our heads in the sand and say never mind?

Never mind, for example, that Obama was recently hailed as a “Hamiltonian” believer in “limited government” and “free trade” by Republican New York Times columnist David Brooks, who praises Obama for having “a mentality formed by globalization, not the SDS.”

Never mind that Obama (consistent with Brooks’s description of him) has lent his support to the aptly named Hamilton Project, formed by corporate-neoliberal Citigroup chair Robert Rubin and “other Wall Street Democrats” to counter populist rebellion against corporatist tendencies within the Democratic Party. Or that he lent his politically influential and financially rewarding assistance to neoconservative pro-war Senator Joe Lieberman’s (“D”-CT) struggle against the Democratic antiwar insurgent Ned Lamont. Or that Obama has supported other “mainstream Democrats” fighting antiwar progressives in primary races.

Or that he chose the neoconservative Lieberman to be his “assigned” mentor in the U.S. Senate. Never mind that Obama opposed an amendment to the Bankruptcy Act that would have capped credit card interest rates at 30 percent.

Never mind that Obama voted for a business-friendly “tort reform” bill that rolls back working peoples’ ability to obtain reasonable redress and compensation from misbehaving corporations. Or that Obama claims to oppose the introduction of single-payer national health insurance on the grounds that such a widely supported social-democratic change would lead to employment difficulties for workers in the private insurance industry—at places like Kaiser and Blue Cross Blue Shield.

Does Obama support the American scourge of racially disparate mass incarceration on the grounds that it provides work for tens of thousands of prison guards? Should the U.S. maintain the illegal operation of Iraq and pour half its federal budget into “defense” because of all the soldiers and other workers that find employment in imperial wars and the military-industrial complex? Does the “progressive” senator really need to be reminded of the large number of socially useful and healthy alternatives that exist for the investment of human labor power at home and abroad—wetlands preservation, urban ecological retrofitting, drug counseling, teaching, infrastructure building and repair, safe and affordable housing construction, the building of windmills and solar power facilities, etc.?

"I believe that U.S. forces are still a part of the solution in Iraq.”
- Barack Obama

Hope? Or wishful thinking?

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» Stop giving away your own power Posted by: westomoon
» Just listen to yourself. Posted by: -matti
» RE: Just listen to yourself. Posted by: westomoon
Cautiously optimistic
Posted by: Krotos on Nov 5, 2008 10:18 AM   
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The destruction of the extreme right is an unequivocal good. But before we declare the final triumph of liberalism, let's wait and see just how liberal Obama actually is. That won't become clear for months, at least.

And while like any sane person, I'm happy Obama won, some of the extreme adulation surrounding him is, frankly, a bit troubling. Since Julius Caesar's time if not before, the elevation of politicians to messiah figures generally hasn't proven a healthy thing for democratic or republican societies in the long run. We've elected a president, not a king. The responsibility for changing our country for the better still ultimately lies with you and me, not with whoever is currently occupying the White House.

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» RE: Cautiously optimistic Posted by: Physiocrat
Tragedy and Hope
Posted by: chlamor on Nov 5, 2008 10:23 AM   
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"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can “throw the rascals out” at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy."

—Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in our Time

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Wake up PEOPLE! Politics are nothing but a sham!
Posted by: 10wwjd29 on Nov 5, 2008 10:39 AM   
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To the "progressive readers" of Alternet:

This website has slowly been transformed into a more progressive version of CNN news.. blinding all to the reality of the developing situation.. Has anyone noticed? The quality, insight and critiques of the stories posted on this website has declined incredibly over the past couple years. Now you all have been duped back into the partisan politics debate! What a scam! There is no hope with Obama -- he will be the prefect tool by those running the show for the turbulent times ahead -- the democrats are simply the other side of the coin with the republicans in keeping us completely oblivious to the "shadow government" that works behind the scenes -- pulling the strings closer and closer to their frightening vision of a new world order. Yes, a new world order folks!

This is a matter of control. For those who have a read Orwell's 1984 and Huxley's Brave New World -- you will have a good picture of what is actually happening right now. The global economy is about to dive into depths the world has never seen.. creating chaos & havoc on a scale never known. Obama will still be smiling -- telling us all to have hope. And the mainstream corporate-controlled MEDIA, including now "alternet", is keeping us completely blind to the insidious intentions behind such an orchestrated scenario. Yes, this is all being orchestrated. You need to start diving deeper into what is actually happening. I suggest, for those who are willing to uncover the veil, to google/youtube some of the below:

Alex Jones - New World Order - Illuminati - The Forbidden Knowledge - David Icke - Above Top Secret - 2012 - Prophet's Manual - Beyond the Ordinary - NeW Consciousness Rising

This is all just a tidbit. Open your eyes, and expand your MINDS! This is what it is all about: keeping you perpetually in fear & limited to the material presented reality of our culture. Nothing is real -- nothing is solid - nothing is impossible.. new discoveries in the sciences are presenting evidence for this all the time -- this is never discussed in the media! We have been conditioned to accept "authority" and these authorities have limited us to accept the fixed reality of this world. By doing so, we have lost touch with our true spiritual selves -- we must find ourselves once again if we are going to rebuild our society and live in harmony once again with the earth.

My last post was conveniently removed by Alternet -- and it will be interesting to see what happens with this one. I will probably be viciously attacked by many -- but for those who connect with what I am saying -- please keep exploring! Break free from the Matrix -- for indeed that is what we live in!

To the LIGHT in ALL

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Now it is time...
Posted by: ms_happy on Nov 5, 2008 10:47 AM   
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Now it is time to sweep the crud out of the White House. You can be sure that W is going to feverishly author more Executive orders in his final dying gasps that will f--k up the American people and our environment. As Gore Vidal has said, that monster has salted the Earth and along with his cronies has dismantled our Constitution. Vidal has said there is probably no recovering from this. But at Grant Park last night, and Times Square, and Kenya, the hope was completely alive. Get packing, W. Just go. And take the rest of the vermin with you.

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Amazing indeed
Posted by: RedFoxOne on Nov 5, 2008 10:50 AM   
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Wow, amazing indeed. Most amazing night I have experienced in my lifetime. What a historic Moment. Hasta LaVista to Dictator Bush and his Regime! Adios, dont let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya! LOL

Jiff
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Much left to be done:this is one major move of the clock's
Posted by: NYCartist on Nov 5, 2008 10:55 AM   
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moving forward. I was a small potatoe (yup, I like that e)in the civil rights movement. A Jew who spent a couple of years outside of NYC. I am almost the same age as Obama's mother would be. I feel the same awe that so many of our age group feels. I feel joy at knowing how much impact it has on every child of color that Barack Obama has won the election by a landslide.

The pundits are tripping all over themselves and sounding silly in the spin. Racism is still here: police brutality, predatory lending, discrimination in jobs, housing, schooling, and how medicare does not give equal care for people of color are some examples. I applaud the young.

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Optimism! Why not? Yes We Can!
Posted by: doorworker on Nov 5, 2008 11:19 AM   
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Heartening to read even W.G., a longtime source for sobering, hard truths, reading last night as a game-changer.


I harbor inevitable doubts, but I couldn't hope more that this talk of a transformational moment is the real deal.

Congential bracers-for-trouble could do worse than a recent piece by Mike Davis, over at TomDispatch.

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McCain's speech was the best of his career
Posted by: fanny666 on Nov 5, 2008 12:01 PM   
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I realize that McCain ran a nasty, negative, slanderous campaign.

But the concession speech he gave last night was amazing. The best speech of his career. Mature, honorable. Good for him.

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The Indispensable Change We Must Accomplish --
Posted by: Last Chance on Nov 5, 2008 12:02 PM   
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During the next 4 - 12 years the human race must learn to live in peace and balance on the Earth, or blunder into ecocide and self-extinction. I hope and pray that Obama knows or learns that truth and includes it among his programs for change. I will continue trying to help in whatever ways I can.

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Bush Libraray
Posted by: Dboy on Nov 5, 2008 12:38 PM   
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Let's please not forget that there are people still out there who want to manufacture a Bush legacy. That attempt will include a Bush Library, and Turd Blossom is the leading guy pushing the library. As I understand it, SMU owns the old Baird's Bakery site and has also bought some formerly multi-family real estate near the main campus. The Library project is still in limbo due to protests from the Methodist Church and the SMU divinity school, but the project is NOT completely dead yet. This landslide victory might help bury the Library idea (let's hope so) but please get ready to help fight this thing if they start trying to get this project rolling. This is not a time for mercy, it's a time to crush them completely.

dboy

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» RE: Bush Libraray Posted by: YogiBear
» RE: Bush Libraray Posted by: yale
Obama Inaugurational Poem!
Posted by: thinkverybig on Nov 5, 2008 1:22 PM   
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Please go to youtube and do a search for "thinkverybig" and watch all of those videos.

I think the one called "We Must Change" would be great to recite at Obama's Inauguration

"When A Dream Comes True"

http://www.thinkverybig.com/when_a_dream_comes_true.htm

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Like ANY Democrat would have lost this election
Posted by: Physiocrat on Nov 5, 2008 1:32 PM   
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Come on now...Obama is a centrist and you all know it. He won't be able to change much.

With the disaster of the last 8 years under Bush, ANY Democrat would have won this election...White, Black, Asian, purple, whatever.

Obama is nothing special - he only took advantage of a situation that was easy to take advantage of, namely winning the White House for the Democrats after 8 years of terrible rule. Not a very big accomplishment in my eyes, but I hope Obama does well in office.

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» Wait for it -- Posted by: westomoon
» Double Ugh. Posted by: -matti
Congratultions to Obama and to the american masses.
Posted by: avatar_singh on Nov 5, 2008 2:25 PM   
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Atleast he and the AMERICAN MASSES DID DO what they set out to do-bring a change from putrid atmposhphere of washington politics and crush the attempts by the power to disenfrenchise the american masses through fraudulant voter register, dfefective machines , and long 4 hopurs que at polling booth to discourage people from voting.
may be some american officials will visit India to see how a massive leection process can be done smotthly without the major glitch chaterestic of american voting system.

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DANCING, WE ARE DANCING
Posted by: Rosasharn on Nov 5, 2008 2:31 PM   
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I can honestly state that I feel so deeply, truly joyous today! I am dancing in my kitchen, I am honking my car horn and, like a poster above, I am PROUDLY displaying the American flag in my retail business window, for the first time in years! God, bless us ALL, and let us keep this feeling alive! HOPE! JUSTICE! PEACE!

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» RE: DANCING, WE ARE DANCING Posted by: fanny666
but beware of the british bastards clinging on to Barack Obama and changing his agenda.
Posted by: avatar_singh on Nov 5, 2008 2:35 PM   
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that is what the british are good at-they supported manily palin-who was heoine in british media. now that obama won they would try to bring him to their fold to use america for british ends as they always do-so be watchful of any english stooge inside obama camp-

Already the british are spreading rumour of new cold war started by Russia-in fact itis the british who started cold war before and want to restart it again.

When Clinton was elected in 1992 BC was saying that it was worrisome for the british foreing office because Clinton might want peaceful settlement in Ireland. No worry. Within 3 weeks of Clinton eelction the british bastards brought him into their grip.. But the same B and british were very happy when in 1994 and 1996 this Clinton lost congress to conservative majority-proof that british friendship was only to neautralize Clinton from straying from so called neutral attitude to uk.


In fact in the 1988 American election B.B.C. had invited the chief drug dealer of BAT-i.e. british american tobacco-(who of course is an englishman) and there was another American there. During discussion of Ducassis' candidature the B.B.C. anchor man suggested to the American that the opponent of bush was hardly an American as he looked to dark and was Greek, the country of geek being too much near Africa. It really happened. This shows a few things. According to B.B.C. not only Blacks were not American but also all those who the english agents have labelled ethnic Americans. In fact B.B.C. openly said (in that program-usually B.B.C. does not reveal its evil intention so easily) that the American means actually anglo-saxons. The whole propaganda and racial slur was provided by BBC.
the way George H.W. Bush finished off Michael Dukakis in 1988. Lee Atwater, Bush’s smear manager, picked up Al Gore’s use of Horton – the black rapist furloughed for a weekend, under a law passed by Gov. Dukakis – and retooled it, throwing in slurs about Dukakis as being some foreign outsider
Don't confuse that white includes Germans either. The same English agents (in America) who created a monstrous film like ``birth of nation`` are the same people who crated prohibition only because many German immigrants were drinking bear and they did not like it. It is the same england sympathiser crowd who went on killing blacks, Irish,
etc -
now how come about that every President who wanted to take stand indendent of Britain in America on Domestic or Foreign has eithr been made impotent or killed(Abraham Lincoln, Kennedy,Robert Kennedy)?To understand that one has to remember British propaganda machinary(all sorts of media,BBB.,Papars, govt,etc) and britihs agents in America.Britain has always acted like a heyena(or dog) who let two or Three Lions(OF Europe like France, Germans

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Amazing? not exactly
Posted by: dover23 on Nov 5, 2008 4:56 PM   
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What will really be amazing and mark the beginning of a new era will be when someone other than a white man is elected president and his/her race is not an issue at all, as opposed to all the hoopla here.

Making such a big deal of Obama's skin color reeks of racism itself.

Until the empire stops killing,
Until self-medication is decriminalized,
Until criminal inflation of legal tender ends,
Until (enter your favorite state evildoing here),

Obama is one of them.

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Will this really change so much?
Posted by: Jeff Greef on Nov 5, 2008 5:00 PM   
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Yes, it's a heady moment to be rid of George, but will Obama really change things?
Will he:
-Question the military-industrial complex (like Eisenhower)?
-Question the CIA and Federal Reserve (like Kennedy)
-Reverse the loss of the Habeas Corpus, get rid of "Homegrown Terrorism" laws?
Obama is filling his admin with Bilderbergers. He won't question the powers that be. He can't unless we insist. I don't think we will.

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trouble
Posted by: usa on Nov 5, 2008 5:29 PM   
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we are all in trouble....

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» RE: trouble Posted by: Cathyc
wishing obama a very good term and luck-he desreves it.
Posted by: avatar_singh on Nov 5, 2008 5:53 PM   
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but what is so speacial about black being elected? It only show how bigoted america has been that in its history only 2 people of non anglosaxon race been elected-fist one was kennedy and second one is this obama.
It shows america is a bigotedcountry of mean minded people who voted for change because their pocket was hurting not because of any consiclnce agasint criminal war,
yes in India we have minority primeminster and several presidents elected -all with in last 60 yrs of indepdence-
so nothing for america to boast about.
not after waiting to vote for 4 to 5 hours que.

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That liberal media
Posted by: YogiBear on Nov 5, 2008 6:07 PM   
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CNN says: "Obama won the presidency with the support of 63 million voters, but he must now win the confidence of the other 56 million who thought McCain was the better candidate."

Um, when GW squeaked by, we were told by the "liberal" media he had a mandate and could do whatever he wanted. Now we're told Obama has to win the support of people who regularly called for his head during the campaign? Obama's been nothing but civil. They have to win his respect -- our respect -- not the other way around.

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What Amazing BS
Posted by: PointMan on Nov 5, 2008 6:35 PM   
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This from William Grieder one of the foremost DC doubletalk quacks for the private "Federal Reserve" Corporation that is a chief choke-point for corporate crime rule.

Yeah, a genuine black or other person of color should have been elected president decades ago. So, finally a bi-racial man is elected and that man turns out to be a police state corporate drone.

Obama supports FISA and endless genocide "war on terror" along with perpetual martial law corporate crime Wall Street "bailouts" all on the public dime. And that's just the tip of the cesspool under this smiling snake oil salesman. Obama is in bed with the very police state sharks that caused the obscene straits the nation is in.

Don't believe it? This is very easy to check out. Here's a link to start with:

http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?
option=com_content&task=view&id=838&Itemid=1

Martin Luther King was hounded and most probably killed by exactly the same kind of elite thugs that now pull Obama's strings. If Dr. King could see who speaks in his name he would never stop throwing up.

Obama is not fit to walk in Cynthia McKinney's shadow.

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where is your head? Where the sun don't shine I think
Posted by: cori on Nov 5, 2008 7:25 PM   
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Look at the state of our nation and our people!
If liberal means that we have safety nets, jobs, health care, Civil liberties, an EPA, FDA and FCC that works for us, medicine we can afford, healthcare, colleges our kids can go to, good schools, regulations to protect us and a government that doesn't let the military drain our economy, that doesn't spend us into oblivion and start wars based on lies for profit, then I am a liberal. If conservatves behaved like that then I would be a conservative. Why do you think Chaney endorsed McCain? Because he was a "Maverick"? Why do you think they purged ten's of thousands of Democratic voters, because McCain is such a Maverick? I don't think so. And now look at the huge mess that Bush and the Republicans have left for us. This nation is devistated! And Bush talks about protecting us! Now that he's destroyed our economy! Add in a little torture, a big bunch of corruption, our constiution wiped out, another war and the biggest prison system on the face of the earth and well I hope you liked Bush land. Oh and did I mention that we are sitting on the 2nd biggest oil deposit on earth in Iraq while Exxon is makeing record profits and we are paying 10 billion a day to the military industrial complex. Lets hope we can return to porsperity someday becuase I don't think the conservatives quiet get it yet.

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Rahm Emanuel, an Israeli-American multi-millionaire investment banker, is Obama's chief of staff
Posted by: Physiocrat on Nov 5, 2008 7:30 PM   
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NOTHING CHANGES

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Yes. They're still there.
Posted by: Longdream on Nov 6, 2008 6:26 AM   
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They're still there. There will always be people who beliefs are different from ours, who are as insistent as we are that they are "right".

One of the reasons I admire Barack is the example he sets of inclusion. My promise in doing my best to emulate that quality is to find a way to understand those people and bring them into my consciousness, and put some of my consciousness into theirs. We MUST put down our knapsacks full of hard rules, insistent beliefs and unbending criteria to find common ground. I've already failed a number of times, because it's really tough to do.

This, in my opinion, if it's practiced by enough people, will be even more powerful than the largest phone banks, the biggest ads, and will trump moveon.org and every other activist movement on the ground.

If we dialogue with people who come with open hearts and minds, and simply leave the baiters ALONE, AlterNet could be a place where real progress is made, and no energy is wasted.

And if you see me blowing this concept all to hell, call me on it. Please.

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The White House's New Tenants
Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Nov 6, 2008 10:25 AM   
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Come January, the White House will have new occupants who are from Illinois. A house built by slave labor will now feature a biracial man and his lovely family into the Oval Office.
All gloating aside, we still have a lot of unfinished work to do. Congratulations to Herr Obama for running a clean and thoughtful campaign. We will finally have a government for the people!

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Amazed, Moved, Inspired, and Worried
Posted by: MarinaGipps on Nov 10, 2008 7:39 PM   
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I am anxious. I don't find that I am a particularly religious person and yet somehow I find myself thanking God every day for President-Elect, Barack Obama. I also find myself praying to God for his protection as I oftentimes worry about the other people who were so excited at the thought of him being a terrorist at those McCain/Palin Rallies . I worry about these crazed, bigots who do cling to their guns and to their false religion of divisiveness. I worry that there are so many of these ignorant liars walking the earth and wearing white cloaks during secret meetings. The internet is full of so many hate groups and while I do believe in freedom of speech I find that their language whether it is written or spoken is as despicable as rape. Oftentimes I do cry because there are so many bad people out there who do not have a conscience and who do not have any true values that would benefit our society. It is our job as supporters of Barack Obama to make sure that our society is treating him with the respect he deserves. Barack Obama has woken us up...he has created a stirring within all of us and now it has indeed become a movement. All of us need to stand up for him even during the tough times because our ruined foreign policy and our rock bottom economic situation is not his fault. There will be so many terrible people out there who will sweep aside what this election meant for Change in this country and they will stop at nothing. I was losing sleep during the Presidential campaigning thinking that somehow McCain/Palin would find a way to cheat and win. Now I am losing sleep over our President-Elect's safety. Part of the problem is that these people that were saying terrible things at the McCain/Palin Rallies are still saying terrible things and adding more lies to those existing, hurtful lies. It is our job as bloggers to power-blog...to put up our positive thoughts about Barack Obama all over the internet so that these crazed zealots and their violence inciting words get drowned out once and for all. We need to do this everyday-not just today. We cannot stop protecting President Barack Obama. I suppose we are all thinking this but we aren't actually saying it. Every time something good in the country exists there is always something evil that sets out to destroy that Hope: the promise of a new tomorrow. I keep thinking of John and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King. We can't ever give up. Our everyday efforts for Barack Obama are for the good of this country. So if people volunteered as I had for the campaign for so long and feel sad as I do that you no longer have a place in the campaign...remember that this campaign/movement for change is ongoing. Never forget that. We want a second Barack Obama term. We must quell every lie that crosses our path whether it be in the air-waves, the web, mass mailings, or our television sets. This is only the beginning. So I am on my guard here as I write to my fellow bloggers. Complacency at winning an election is never good enough. We must focus now on protecting our candidate and work hard starting now on his re-election if the process of Change is to truly become a Reality. Change takes time. He needs two terms in the White House to clean up this mess.

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