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Election 2008

The Criminal Justice Reform Battle in California: Cynical Politicians and Powerful Interests Attacking the Public Good

By Arianna Huffington, Huffington Post. Posted November 2, 2008.


We can't allow a sensible solution to be drowned out by people know the "tough on crime" approach is worthless public policy.
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Here is picture that sums up much that is wrong with American politics. Five governors of California, Democrats and Republicans, joining forces to oppose something that is indisputably in the public interest.

This is an image that could be repeated, with different faces, in region after region of our country, involving issue after issue. Public officials standing against the public good, with the disastrous results on display from Detroit to Wall Street. All suffering from the same destructive force: the power of entrenched special interests to cloud the vision of our leaders, causing them to thwart good sense, good legislation, and the will of the people.

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In today's version, we have Jerry Brown, Pete Wilson, Gray Davis, George Deukmejian, and Arnold Schwarzenegger coming together to oppose Prop 5, a common sense ballot initiative that seeks to effectively and intelligently tackle the chronic problems facing California's deeply flawed criminal justice system.

California's prisons are a budget-busting debacle. There are currently more than 170,000 inmates crammed into prisons designed to hold 100,000 people. Around 70,000 of these prisoners are nonviolent offenders, with over half of them incarcerated for a drug offense.

A large part of the problem is a parole system the New York Times recently called "perhaps the most counterproductive and ill-conceived" in the U.S.. California's recidivism rate is 70 percent -- twice the national average. This stems in no small measure from the state's insistence on treating paroled murderers the same way as paroled nonviolent drug offenders. They all spend 3-5 years on parole. This overburdens parole officers, who end up spending very little time with any of their charges -- violent or nonviolent (According to the Times, 80 percent of California parolees have fewer than two 15-minute meetings with their parole officer per month.) Wouldn't it make more sense to keep a closer watch on rapists and killers than on nonviolent drug offenders?

As a result of this dysfunctional system, prison costs have risen 50 percent since 2000, to over $10 billion a year -- close to 10% of the state's budget (and roughly the same amount California spends on higher education). It costs $46,000 a year to keep a nonviolent prisoner in the state behind bars. Is it any wonder California is gushing red ink?

Enter Prop 5, a ballot initiative that will reduce prison overcrowding, increase public safety, cut costs, expand drug treatment programs inside California's prisons, and start the state's first drug treatment program for at-risk youth.

Prop 5 is structured to build on the proven success of Prop 36, a law promoting drug treatment over incarceration for nonviolent drug offenders. It was approved by 61 percent of California voters in 2000, despite almost unanimous opposition from public officials. Since being enacted, Prop 36 has saved California taxpayers $2 billion -- and graduated 84,000 people who, according to studies, are far less likely to become repeat offenders.

"Prop 5 finally addresses the twin tragedy of crushing prison costs on society and the revolving trapdoor of incarceration that stems from locking up too many nonviolent offenders," filmmaker Gabriel London, who has documented the state of our prisons, told me.


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High Security, Emergency Shelter Needed
Posted by: ranchero42 on Nov 2, 2008 12:15 AM   
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How many beds can they fit into the Nixon and Reagan Libraries?

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High Security, Emergency Shelter Needed
Posted by: ranchero42 on Nov 2, 2008 12:15 AM   
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How many beds can they fit into the Nixon and Reagan Libraries?

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X pat observer
Posted by: davy on Nov 2, 2008 3:16 AM   
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As Robbie Burns, that great Scot's poet said, "O a God the gifte ge us to see oursels as others see us." This is what I wish for you America, the gift to see yourselves. The rest of the world is beginning to laugh at you. When on earth are you going to actually address the issues. Of which, the main one seems to be the great corporate sell out. Yeaaa Arianna stay strong !! I'm watching it all from behind my highland couch, just as I watched the movie PSYCHO when I was a kid growing up in Chicago.

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Split California up into several states
Posted by: Auk on Nov 2, 2008 3:20 AM   
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California has the most dysfunctional government of any state and is simply too populous to work as a state. Twice as many people as any other state has ever had. If only the criminal justice problems and all other problems were only twice as bad as New York's, but they're more like ten times worse.

At the same time, county government is arguably stronger than in any state. (In some smaller states, counties are basically just lines on the map nowadays and don't have much governmental function.) But voters pay even less attention, if possible, to the often corrupt county governments.

The supposed "Progressive Era" reform of the voter initiative system doesn't help much, even when a proposition is a good idea. I keep waiting for an election where the voters pass two propositions that completely contradict each other, and I don't think I'll have to wait long.

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the great white fathers make money on the prison system
Posted by: Lauren on Nov 2, 2008 4:24 AM   
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It's very corrupt.

When I started looking at this religious freedom action project, I decided the California budget problem was a bigger mess then the federal one, so federal reform should be done first. That way we get the practice and success before we tackle the California mess.

I also figured people in California were more clever, maybe somebody else would figure it out while I was busy with the feds. This bill is focused on real problem solving, looks like I was right. It is important to focus on the task at hand if one is going to complete anything. I wasn't the only one highly motivated to END the drug war. Highly motivated.

These white men, pictured above, are bad men. My dance band has a song these guys bring to my mind, Bad Man Walking.

Friday I had another appointment with Kaiser's shrink. There was nothing in it for me except she did acknowledge that I was an actual religious leader. I accomplished that by talking about handing out my Rasta religious flier at the Ed Rosenthal pot fest, giving her one to keep, and showing her my church registration card and my press pass.

I left feeling very angry, she had absolutely nothing to offer me except for her dogmatic and prejudicial view, plus the suspicion everything I said would immediately be reported to the proper authorities, which in reality is a deep and wide faith based conspiracy with the police and many others to utterly destroy me. They had me down and I told her so. I want my children back.

The only subject she gets excited over in religion is sex, what a pervert. I could not get out of there fast enough. They just want to push pills, the have no solutions what so ever. I was deeply disappointed in what Kaiser 'mental health' has to offer, it is not health.

I also can't figure out why they have so much office space. It is very strange, also strange that the business address is Martinez, while the actual office building is in Pleasant Hill. How can that be?

That is one of those little 'reality gaps' that makes me feel very suspicious, like the real estate listing of GITMO. Did they create a false place on purpose? Why? What do they have to hide?

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why the prison system continues...
Posted by: ellie on Nov 2, 2008 6:05 AM   
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violent, convicted felons belong in prison for their sentencing time, but they are such a small proportion of the prison population anyway...

for non violent offenders, there is where the $$ is... think lawyers, judges, wardens, social workers, parole and probation... what do they all have in common... higher education to get into these jobs... it's necessary to fill all available cells to the brink and then some to support the most honored societal jobs... middle class jobs have to be created on the backs of the less fortunate for this american form of justice to exist...

one of the many reasons restorative justice has been laughed at in most states... restorative justice cuts down on incarceration time, promotes making things right between victims and offenders, allows offenders to learn how to operate in american society without being locked up...

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California prison guards give all unions a bad name
Posted by: sausage on Nov 2, 2008 6:41 AM   
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That the California Correctional Peace Officers Association (CCPOA) opposes California Prop 5 should come as no surprise. On the surface it threatens the jobs of its membership. 70,000 nonviolent drug offenders are certainly easier to control than a like number of violence-prone bikers, gang bangers or run of the mill psychotics.

Yet the CCPOA's opposition to Prop 5 also gives ammunition to the long held conservative canard that union bosses only work for very parochial interests and the great aggrandizement of themselves and their union's membership, in that order. And the CCPOA's position also undermines liberal support for the labor union movement in general, as the guards' union opposition to Prop 5 in no way contributes the the end of the most destructive war waged on American soil, the "war on drugs."

The California prison guards' union represents the law enforcement leg of the above ground triad which keeps drug laws and treatment repressive in this country, the other two being politicians seeking votes and the rehab industry. In fact, Prop 5, as I read it, tilts "drug war" tactics toward the rehabilitation side of the equation without addressing the question of legalization or, at the very least, decriminalization. True, prisons would be emptied of nonviolence drug offenders but the "war on drugs," in California, would go on.

The simplest solution to ending the "drug war" is legalization, period. No one has ever died of a marijuana overdose and the number of deaths per year associated with tobacco usage, approximately a half million per year, far outstrip deaths attributable to heroin overdose. This doesn't mean we should let junkies lie in gutters, a syringe dangling from an emaciated arm, when the "straight" family marches by on their way to church.

At the risk of offending the terminally PC with my choice of words, society should "warehouse" the most severely addicted, whether it be alcohol, heroin or meth. By warehousing I don't mean just giving up on the addicted and throwing them in prison or letting them to run the street, the currently favored strategy in waging "the war on drugs."

It would be far cheaper to set up apartment-like complexes, with doctors and nurses trained in addiction on staff, where the addicted could get pharmaceutical grade drugs. The addict would then have the choice of going into rehabilitation, becoming "clean and sober" and returning to greater society; or continue using his/her drug of choice in a clean, medically supervised setting until he/she shuffles off this mortal coil.

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Sad
Posted by: RedFoxOne on Nov 2, 2008 6:48 AM   
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Sadly, with MORONS like Dictator Bush in office who has turned his back on "Main Street America" its only going to get worse. As the economy worsens, more people turn to crime to support their families.

Jiff
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Evolve out of the cave!
Posted by: dbaker on Nov 2, 2008 6:47 AM   
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The caveman "Socrates" in Plato's Republic note a flaw in the Justice System at that time and stated "Justice is the Art of Theft, to be practised to the benefit of our Friends, and to the harm of our enemies"!
several subsequent pages were devoted to the difficulty the State has differentiating between friends and enemies.

It would seem that There are currently more than 170,000 enemies of the state!They must be enemies,one would not put a friend in a cage.

Having read the Dark Alliance
http://www.narconews.com/darkalliance/drugs/start.htm. "FOR THE BETTER PART of a decade, a San Francisco Bay Area drug ring sold tons of cocaine to the Crips and Bloods street gangs of Los Angeles and funneled millions in drug profits to a Latin American guerrilla army run by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency.

It appears these citizens were not enemies but friends whom contributed to the war effort.

Therefore a simple analogy will provide clarity to the issue!

Bhopal India, Union Carbide released some gas from its facility.
http://www.bhopal.org/whathappened.html

Imagine imprisoning the surviving victims, for the crime of ingesting the chemical, and criminalizing the side effects!

Chernobyl was a missed opportunity as it was already illegal for the citizens to possess nuclear material.

California should evolve out of the cave, and stop imprisoning these Friends of the State, whom are victims of a Chemical Disaster!

Dennis Baker

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Here's An Eye-Opener
Posted by: Carol Burns on Nov 2, 2008 7:19 AM   
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fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/bush-cheney-drugs.html

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» Peel your eyes like grapes then Posted by: mgmyers79
» RE: Interesting... Posted by: Cybershaman
Should we be surprised
Posted by: TexasCowboy on Nov 2, 2008 8:18 AM   
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That Arnold sells out to big money? Screw the will of the people, to heck with common sense, turn you head to the children who will ultimately bear continued financial mismanagement. Are we shocked? Naw, this is the REPUBLICAN PARTY! Bushes, McCains, Cheneys, and of course there's ARNIE.
I have always admired Californians for being more progressive than other states on many issues. I hope the citizens are becoming smarter than the scare tactics by politicians. I hope all Americans are finally getting the message, overthrow the status quo, greedy politicians who sellout middle America just to line their own pockets. The funny thing is, these politicians already are far wealthier than middle America, they just want MORE.

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» RE: Should we be surprised Posted by: Lauren
A bit off the point - b u t
Posted by: reinaldok on Nov 2, 2008 9:05 AM   
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I would believe that most of our Alternet groupies watched Arnold's totally disgusting, pandering McCain-Palin - bashing Obama-Biden
"speech" in Ohio. What in the world was he lying about? What is all that junk about his leaving Austria because of the socialism? Give me a break. Just more of the slimy McCain campaign garbage.

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The Solution the State Avoids
Posted by: Last Chance on Nov 2, 2008 11:53 AM   
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The underlying reason why California's Criminal Justice System is in such a crisis is the ever-growing population that can no longer be accomodated by local, state or federal services. Therefore --

1. Reduce the human population through peaceful family planning programs in which each woman has the legally protected right to decide if and when to birth her children. That way, children will no longer "fall through the cracks" of social services, but instead receive the emotional, moral and practical support all children deserve to persuade them to seek a legally creative path in life.

2. Stop the chaotic inflow of illegal aliens. That way, LEGAL immigrants can be better welcomed and receive all the social services they deserve.

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» RE: The Solution the State Avoids Posted by: newscruzer2
» RE: The Solution the State Avoids Posted by: racetraitor
"California Correctional Peace Officers Association", contractors, and Big Booze, Tobbaco and Pharma
Posted by: gunboat diplomat on Nov 2, 2008 1:23 PM   
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Prisons a more profitable than schools are. It costs a lot more to house a prisoner, per year, than it does to educate a child. Prison guards are paid quite a bit more than teachers are, aren't they?

Nonviolent drug offenders are the kind of prisoners that the guards like - obedient and non-problematic. I mean, if the prisons were full of nothing but the violent criminals - the rapists and murderers and thugs - then their job might be a bit more difficult, right?

Don't forget that this country also has a nice big prison labor section, which also helps keep labor prices low - really:

The Prison Industry: Capitalist Punishment
by Julie Light, CorpWatch
October 28th, 1999

The assembly lines at CMT Blues look like those at any other US garment factory, except for one thing: the workers are watched over by armed guards. CMT Blues is housed at the maximum security Richard J. Donovan State Correctional Facility outside San Diego.

The current era is like the Prohibition era (in more ways than one) - the prisons are full of people sentenced under drug laws, but drug use is as high as ever, and the juicy profits mean there's an endless supply of businesspeople ready to enter the fray. The people who get arrested and busted are usually low on the ladder - and Big Pharma and Tobacco and Alcohol continue to market their own dangerous and addictive products to kids and adults with little restriction.

Not only that, the asset forfeiture system as well as drug money corruption means that police across the state are part of the whole ring. Undercover drug cops are among the shadiest elements of the police system, after all - and all too often, they get deeply involved in setting up various drug deals for reasons that are racist, corrupt, or both.

It's a dirty swamp - and voting for this proposition is taking a step to help clean it up.

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» It's like slavery, only worse. Posted by: Artkansas
Feel free to move to Singapore then
Posted by: meetmeineleusis on Nov 2, 2008 8:36 PM   
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and keep your mouth shut on the subject of democracy, you know nothing of it.

Another fake soldier keyboard commando lying douche shot down.

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» Awww..did I hurt your widdle feelings? Posted by: meetmeineleusis
RE: Singapore?
Posted by: Cybershaman on Nov 3, 2008 8:26 AM   
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Singapore as ALWAYS been one of the most crime ridden cities in the world.
Of course that's 'organized' crime. The crime bosses own the political system so it is the low level, petty criminal who gets made an example out of with these 'eye for an eye' type punishments. It's just another form of state sponsored terrorism designed to keep a population under control. Love vs. fear.

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Crime Statistics which Progressive Media Hide from Us
Posted by: Elurby on Nov 4, 2008 4:31 AM   
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Read this article about hidden statistics
on black-on-white crime (mainstream media
refuse to report the awful impact black
men have had on society):

"Paul Sheehan, an Australian reporter, dug out the following Information for an article in the Sydney Morning Herald, May 2, 1995.

Sheehan based his statistics on crime data compiled by the FBI and partially reported each year in The FBI Uniform Crime Report . These reports can be researched At the FBI's website, www.fbi.gov.

"Since the FBI doesn't distinguish between Hispanics and whites, Sheehan's statistics don't adequately reflect the black-white crime situation.

"Only about 10-15% of Hispanics are white, with the rest being Indian or a mixture of white, American Indian, and blacks.

"Hispanic crime rates are almost as high as black crime rates. This means that the data Sheehan compiled on inter-racial crime is probably grossly understated since a considerable portion of the "white against black" crime actually is Hispanic-against-black crime. (Information about this aspect of inter-racial crime will be presented in a related article.)

"Here is the information Sheehan uncovered in his analysis of the FBI's crime reports:

-"Blacks murder more than 1,600 whites each year.

-"Blacks murder whites at 18 times the rate whites murder blacks.

-"Blacks murdered, raped, robbed, or assaulted about one million whites In 1992.

-"In the last 30 years, blacks committed 170 million violent and non-violent crimes against whites.

-"Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than whites under 18.

-"About 90% of the victims of interracial crimes are white.

-"Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than whites, although whites outnumber blacks by 7 to 1.

-"On a per capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crime than whites.

-"Black neighborhoods are 35 times more violent than white neighborhoods.

-"Of the 27 million nonviolent robberies in 1992, 31% (8.4 million) were committed by blacks against whites. Less than 2% were committed by whites against blacks.

-"Of the 6.6 million violent crimes, 20% (1.3 million) were interracial.

-"Of the the 1.3 million interracial violent crimes, 90% (1.17 million) are black against white.

-"In the past 20 years, violent crime increased four times faster than the population.

-"In the last 30 years (1964-94), more than 45,000 people were killed in interracial murders compared to 38,000 killed in Korea and 58,000 in Vietnam.

-"Sheehan commented that the contents of his article could not possibly be published or discussed in the U.S. mainstream media.

-"In the last 50 years, the white part of the American population has declined from 90% to 72%. The U.S. now has about 33 million blacks and 25 million Hispanics (legal and illegal). By the year 2050, American whites will be a minority, just 49%. By 2100, whites will be 25% of the population.

-"What will life for whites be like in the future?"

-end of report

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The same old tactics
Posted by: sicntired on Nov 6, 2008 12:56 AM   
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There was no downside to this bill.The only thing the prison industry had was fear and the people of California bought it by the bushel.You can't defeat fear and ignorance with common sense because most people don't have any.

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Don Quixote
Posted by: Don Quixote on Nov 9, 2008 5:27 AM   
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There has been an there is a civil war in the US between special interests and public or general interest, (yes, in every country too), which in the US has usually been won by special interests, using their main weapon, media, more than 90 % owned by special interests. What is the percentage of media ownership by a group beyond which democracy is a joke? 51%? 70%? 90%? If special interests own 99% of media and free alternative media is only 1 %, according to the rules definitions, there is still “press freedom”, and therefore “democracy” right?

Imagine if the nazis or the communists had not controlled 100 % of the media but had allowed for 10 % really free press. That would be similar to the US “democracy”. The US is a factual dictatorship ruled by mega-millionairs. See Zeitgeistmovie.com and you will understand that things will stay the same with Obama or anyone else, and if a US president tries to change the nature of US “democracy”, he will be stopped just like John Kennedy: the rule of the gun, like in western movies, and an official investigation (no independent ones allowed), will declare the lack of evidence of conspiracy, (evidence kept by the government, with some documents classifed for 100 years) and some nosy journalists suiciding, dying in accidents...

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