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If the GOP Had Listened to ACORN's Advice, the Mortgage Industry Wouldn't Be in Meltdown

By Peter Dreier and John Atlas, The Nation. Posted October 27, 2008.


Desperate Republicans are scapegoating the respected community advocacy group for Wall Street's disastrous lending spree.
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An increasingly desperate Republican attack machine has recently identified the community organizing group ACORN as Public Enemy Number One. Among ACORN's alleged crimes, perhaps the most serious is that it caused, nearly single-handedly, the world's financial crisis. That's the fantasy. In the reality-based world, it was ACORN that sounded the alarm about the exploitative lending practices that led to the current mortgage meltdown and financial crisis.

Since the 1970s ACORN, which has 400,000 low- and moderate-income "member families" in more than 100 cities in forty states, has been warning Congress to protect borrowers from the banking industry's irresponsible, risky and predatory practices -- subprime loans, racial discrimination (called "redlining") and rip-off fees. ACORN has persistently called for stronger regulations on banks, private mortgage companies, mortgage brokers and rating agencies. For years, ACORN has alerted public officials that the industry was hoodwinking many families into taking out risky loans they couldn't afford and whose fine print they couldn't understand.

Now John McCain and his fellow conservatives are accusing ACORN of strong-arming Congress and big Wall Street banks into making subprime loans to poor families who couldn't afford them, thus causing the economic disaster. McCain's campaign is running a one-and-a-half-minute video that claims Barack Obama once worked for ACORN, repeats the accusation that ACORN is responsible for widespread voter registration fraud and accuses ACORN of "bullying banks, intimidation tactics, and disruption of business." The ad claims that ACORN "forced banks to issue risky home loans -- the same types of loans that caused the financial crisis we're in today."

For months, the right-wing echo chamber -- bloggers, columnists, editorial writers and TV and radio talk-show hosts -- has pitched in with a well-orchestrated campaign to blame the mortgage crisis on ACORN and the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), the 1977 anti-redlining law. In a September 27 editorial, the Wall Street Journal wrote that "ACORN has promoted laws like the Community Reinvestment Act, which laid the foundation for the house of cards built out of subprime loans" and then falsely claimed the bailout bill would create a trust fund "pipeline" to fill ACORN's coffers. On October 14 the Journal's lead editorial, Obama and ACORN, described ACORN as a "shady outfit" and accused the group of being "a major contributor to the subprime meltdown by pushing lenders to make home loans on easy terms, conducting 'strikes' against banks so they'd lower credit standards."

Discussing the mortgage crisis on his Fox News show, Your World, Neil Cavuto commented, "Loaning to minorities and risky folks is a disaster."

Over at the Washington Post, columnist Charles Krauthammer complained that the CRA had led banks and other lenders "to extend mortgages to people who were borrowing over their heads." Holding forth on The O'Reilly Factor, Laura Ingraham laid the foreclosure problem on Bill Clinton, who "pushed all these institutions to lend to minority communities." Many of the loans, she said, were "very risky." Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, a putative populist, echoed on the Hannity & Colmes Show: "The truth is that Democrats controlled the ability to fix this [the mortgage crisis]. It was their harsh regulation under the Community Reinvestment Act that started this ball rolling down the hill. "

On September 10 on Fox & Friends, National Review columnist Stanley Kurtz described ACORN as "a group of community organizers [who] specialize in putting pressure, really kind of intimidation tactics, on banks, to get these banks to make high-risk loans to low-credit customers. They even show up at the homes of bank officials to scare them and their families. They send demonstrators into the lobbies of banks, all to get the banks to make these high-risk loans to people with low credit." McCain's anti-ACORN attack video is almost a word-for-word duplication of Kurtz's comments.

The right-wing case against the CRA is entirely bogus -- a diversionary tactic to take the heat off the financial services industry and its allies, like McCain. The CRA applies only to depository institutions, like commercial and savings banks, but thanks to Congress's deregulation mania, there are now many other lenders, including private mortgage companies like CitiMortgage, Household Finance and Countrywide Financial (which was recently bought out by Bank of America). These outfits, which exist in a shadow world without government oversight, account for most of the predatory loans in trouble today.

When Congress enacted the CRA in 1977, the vast majority of all mortgage loans were made by lenders regulated by the law. In 2006 only about 43 percent of home loans were made by companies subject to the CRA. Indeed, the main culprits in the subprime scandal -- the nonbank mortgage companies, which successfully grabbed the bulk of the mortgage market away from the CRA-regulated banking industry -- were not covered by the CRA.

Wall Street investment firms -- including Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs, Bear Stearns and Citigroup -- set up special units, provided mortgage companies with lines of credit, then purchased the subprime mortgages from the lenders, bundled them into "mortgage-backed securities" and sold them for a fat fee to wealthy investors worldwide, typically without scrutiny. By 2007 the subprime business had become a $1.5 trillion global market for investors seeking high returns. Because lenders didn't have to keep the loans on their books, they didn't worry about the risk of losses.

Congress passed the CRA after many studies, using the banks' lending data, had documented widespread racial discrimination in mortgage lending. The CRA encourages federally chartered banks to examine the credit needs of the communities they serve and to lend based on these needs -- for small businesses, homes and other types of loans. It does not require banks to make loans to businesses or people who can't repay them. It does not ask banks to engage in charity. It simply tells banks: don't discriminate against qualified borrowers.

At first, many banks were reluctant to make loans to minority borrowers seeking to fix up their homes, buy new ones or start new businesses in urban neighborhoods. In the late 1970s and early '80s, community organizing groups like ACORN, National People's Action and others pushed banks and federal regulators to remove their racial blinders. Once they did so, banks discovered that many working- and middle-class black and Latino borrowers were excellent customers with good credit histories. These new markets generated good profits on stable loans with little risk.

The explosion of subprime mortgages was touched off in the early twenty-first century, as the number of lenders regulated by the government and covered by the CRA dramatically dwindled. In 2002 subprime loans made up 8 percent of all mortgages; by 2006 they had soared to 20 percent. Since 2004 more than 90 percent of subprime mortgages have come with exploding adjustable rates.

Not surprisingly, the foreclosure rates on subprime, adjustable-rate and other exotic mortgage loans have run four to five times higher than the foreclosure rates on conventional CRA mortgages. Testifying before the House Financial Services Committee in February, University of Michigan law professor Michael Barr reported that only about 20 percent of subprime mortgages were issued by banks regulated by the CRA. The other 80 percent of predatory and high-interest subprime loans were offered by financial institutions not covered by the CRA and not subject to routine examination or supervision. "The worst and most widespread abuses occurred in the institutions with the least federal oversight," Barr told Congress.

In contrast, the CRA actually penalizes banks for reckless, irresponsible or otherwise predatory lending. According to Ellen Seidman, director of the Treasury Department's Office of Thrift Supervision from 1997 to 2001, federal regulators warned CRA-covered institutions that "badly underwritten subprime products that ignored consumer protections were not acceptable." Lenders not subject to CRA did not receive similar warnings.

And unlike the institutions that offer unregulated predatory subprime loans, banks that make CRA loans are required by federal regulation to verify borrowers' incomes to make sure they can afford the mortgages. In 2006 the Federal Reserve reported that just 11.5 percent of mortgages made by CRA-regulated institutions were high-cost loans, compared with 33.5 percent for lenders not covered by the CRA. Janet Yellen, president and CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, has criticized those who blame CRA lending for the subprime crisis: "Most of the loans made by depository institutions examined under the CRA have not been higher-priced loans, and studies have shown that the CRA has increased the volume of responsible lending to low- and moderate-income households."

While the CRA helped boost the nation's homeownership rate, particularly among black and Latino borrowers, subprime and other exotic mortgages had very little impact on homeownership. Most subprime loans were refinances of existing mortgages. From 1998 through 2005, more than half of all subprime mortgages were for refinancing, while less than 10 percent of subprime loans went to first-time home buyers. Moreover, a significant number of borrowers who took out subprime loans could have qualified for conventional, prime-rate mortgages with much better terms. Even the Wall Street Journal acknowledges that "plenty of people with seemingly good credit are also caught in the subprime trap." Brokers and lenders misled many of these homeowners, replacing safe thirty-year fixed-rate mortgages with deceptive, risky loans.

The CRA gave federal regulators the power to deny approval for lucrative bank mergers or acquisitions if the companies engaged in persistently irresponsible or discriminatory lending. Under Reagan and George W. Bush, regulators failed to enforce the law, so activist groups like ACORN used the CRA to hold banks accountable. They conducted their own studies, uncovered banks with a pattern of irresponsible lending, exposed these practices to the media and demanded that regulators do their job. To avoid costly and harmful confrontations, many lenders forged "community reinvestment agreements" with ACORN and other community groups, pledging to make loans to borrowers who could afford them and whose neighborhood banks had ignored them. According to a study by the Harvard Joint Center for Housing Studies, the CRA helped catalyze more than $1 trillion in bank lending.

ACORN and its allies, including the Center for Responsible Lending, the Greenlining Institute, the Center for Community Change and the National Community Reinvestment Coalition, carried on the battle against abusive lenders on many fronts to ensure that loans in minority areas did not put borrowers in risky situations. ACORN's homeownership counseling program for prospective borrowers was successful in helping families avoid taking out loans they could not afford. In 2006 the foreclosure rate of loans to borrowers who went through ACORN's homeowner counseling program stood at .032 percent.

ACORN and other consumer groups fought for rules requiring lenders to document that borrowers had the ability to repay. They warned that adjustable-rate mortgages -- those that started with a low "teaser" rate, which would adjust to a much higher rate later -- were a ticking time bomb and that such loans should be made only to people who were able to afford the regular rates after the teasers had run out. But the lenders and the securitizers (Wall Street firms that packaged loans into mortgage-backed securities and sold them) -- and too often the regulators and the lawmakers -- didn't heed the warnings. The industry convinced its political cronies that government regulation was too costly and cumbersome.

ACORN and its allies opposed banks whose fees and other charges inflated the cost of loans while padding their profits from transactions and diminishing the long-term safety of these loans. These groups denounced compensation systems that rewarded lenders and brokers for putting borrowers in higher-cost loans regardless of their credit-worthiness. They exposed the outrageous practice called "yield spread premium." This is a kickback from lenders to brokers for selling loans that are more expensive than what borrowers qualify for. It is essentially a bonus for cheating the borrower and upping the risk of default. Earlier this year, after a long battle by the Center for Responsible Lending, the first state -- North Carolina -- made this practice illegal.

ACORN joined other consumer advocates and lawyers to promote the notion of "assignee liability" -- arguing that companies that buy, and profit from, loans bear responsibility for illegal acts committed when those loans were originally made. Without it, the mortgage originators, who typically hold loans briefly before they sell them, can make fraudulent or risky loans without suffering any consequences. Again and again, Wall Street argued that it was too burdensome to scrutinize the loans they were buying or to be held responsible for the original transactions.

Several of ACORN's battles were notably successful. It got some major lenders to reduce the outrageously high interest rates and fees they charged borrowers. For example, in 2001 ACORN persuaded Household Finance Corporation to abolish its practice of selling bogus credit insurance that had been costing a billion dollars a year straight out of homeowners' pockets. ACORN's activism spurred state attorneys general to sue Household Finance in 2002, forcing the firm to distribute a record $484 million to abused borrowers. In a separate suit against Household Finance, ACORN won a $150 million settlement that it put partly into a foreclosure prevention fund.

But ACORN and its counterparts have only been able to stick their fingers in the crumbling dike of American finance. Their warnings were prescient, but their victories were too small, their opponents too strong. So it is richly ironic that John McCain -- a longtime ally of the banking industry whose mentor Phil Gramm orchestrated the 1999 Financial Modernization Act, opening the floodgates to irresponsible lending practices -- is trying to scapegoat ACORN for the subprime crisis. Powerful business groups and their right-wing allies will continue to attack ACORN because it exposed and battled the real culprits of the financial crisis.

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Peter Dreier is professor of politics and director of the Urban & Environmental Policy program at Occidental College. He is co-author of The Next Los Angeles: The Struggle for a Livable City (University of California Press, 2005) and Place Matters: Metropolitics for the 21st Century (2nd edition, University Press of Kansas, 2005) and co-editor of Up Against the Sprawl.

John Atlas, president of the New Jersey-based National Housing Institute--a nonprofit think tank, which publishes Shelterforce magazine--is writing a book, Seeds of Hope, about democracy, community organizing, poverty and the work of ACORN.

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Some links would be nice
Posted by: Rolomax on Oct 27, 2008 12:57 AM   
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No offense, but you can increase the power of your artillery with citations and links.

The power of HTML has been around for ages. Footnotes plus Html = an order of magnitude of higher power with very little effort.

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This may all be about the oil price inflation due to the Iraq invasion...
Posted by: gunboat diplomat on Oct 27, 2008 1:49 AM   
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This is a subtle bit of business, but it looks like the adjustable rate loans were pushed by the banks in order to create loan packages that would be attractive to "wealthy investors".

Why were the investors so wealthy, and so in need of attractive loan packages? Keep asking yourself that one.

The adjustable rate loans were boosted by the banks, in that they paid higher commissions to the brokers - the go-betweens who make a percentage off every deal between a bank and a homeowner... at the bottom end.

The real high-flyers were the investment bankers who were cutting deals between hedge funds and the home lending specialist banks, over those "high future payoff" loans - that people turned out to be unable to pay, or to refinance.

Some of this came about from the "commodity futures modernization act" which allowed unregulated trading in oil futures, options, etc. McCain and his buddy Phil Gramm have fought long and hard to keep futures markets from being regulated, by the way.

Now, why did the hedge funds have so much money to invest in the housing market? Oil money from the inflated pricing seems to be the answer.

Did this bubble arise from the inflated oil prices brought on by the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq? Today's post-crash oil prices (~$70, compared to ~$30 around the time of 9/11) might just be a realistic valuation... $145 a barrel oil might be the bonus price brought on by the invasion. This idea has been floated before, of course (try Greg Palast), but there are ramifications.

What if all that excess oil money - hot cash - went looking for investments, and settled on the U.S. housing market, which was being sold by investment banks and credit agencies as both lucrative and safe?

In that case, this would all be a knock-on effect from the invasion of Iraq and the resulting inflated oil prices... a commodity bubble that fueled a housing bubble.

There are other factors at play, sure. AIG and other insurance companies are looking to take big hits from global warming-linked climate events, for one thing, and agribusiness is also facing losses from droughts, heat waves and floods.

Nevertheless, the whole thing looks rotten - and the $700 billion bailout didn't do much for ordinary people, did it? It now turns out that banks are planning to use the money to buy out other banks and create a more monopolistic credit system - rotten beyond belief. I guess that's what the $300 million a year that the financial sector spends lobbying buys - servile obedience from Congress.

This country is run by international fossil fuel cartels these days - that's the real Bush-Cheney legacy. Cartel capitalism in action - and now we see the consequences.

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» Commodity Futures Modernization Act Posted by: gunboat diplomat
» i think you're right- what lunacy! Posted by: thistleblower
rubber and glue
Posted by: schnoggi on Oct 27, 2008 3:37 AM   
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As a general rule, whatever the right is falsely accusing the left of, they do it to deflect attention from their own real guilt. They're the biggest terrorists, so they call Obama a terrorist. They want corporate welfare, so they accuse him of being a socialist. They live and die by massive voter fraud, so of course they're going to paint ACORN as the worst frauds. They are deeply intolerant, so yeah, the Dems are just sooooo intolerant it's just sickening. Whatever they know they should be busted hard for, they come out and say it was the Dems doing it all along.

Unfortunately, too often, it works all too well.

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Racist Paranoia
Posted by: Urstrly on Oct 27, 2008 4:34 AM   
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Republicans have since Nixon relied on the Big Lie that somewhere some poor American from a racial minority is getting something that ordinary white Americans are not. Now we know that sub-prime mortgage companies were equal opportunity loaners, but rather than blame them and their enablers in Washington, Republicans are blaming the whistle blowers.

I knew as soon as I heard this that something stunk. I'm praying that when this election is over, Sarah Palin and her ilk will have a new respect for community organizers.

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» RE: Racist Paranoia Posted by: cynyk
» RE: acist Paranoia Posted by: PalinHater
They asked for Access, But did NOT devise the 'Products'
Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 27, 2008 5:31 AM   
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BS so a community group asked lenders to make housing more affordale to low income families, They did NOT say offer them 'Interest Only payments' or ARms with Ballon payments. Ya think een these Community organizers woul dhave seen the folly in those 'products'. Low Incomers Are NOT Flipping Houses, they buy them they STAY there- so Interest Only is Not Intended to help the typical Home buyer, but Home Investors.Same goes for Balloon payments, if they couldn't come up with the Down, how could you expect them to come up with a ballon payment- again the Product was Soley for Real estate Investors- Flipping Houses!
The entire housing market is Predatory. I'm College educated, My husband owned a house before and we were in our late 30's when we bought Ours...EVERY step was a battle to keep the Agents and lenders from Screwing US. Offered Us 300,000, kept taking Us to home either way above what we TOLD them we wanted to pay (150,000MAX) Or showed us Homes in the WORST areas to persuade Us to go Higher! We had wolves at the Door and we didn't even have a House yet, thus not even the damn door!
I Hope ACORN goes after not only the Lenders, but the Realitors for predatory practices. And files a Slander & Defamation Suit against the RNC.
The RNC keeps this shit up and they will find Americans Warming to the idea of 'Enhanced Interrogation' techniques.Iron Maiden will be back in Vogue, and I'm not talking about the Band.

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Positive and uplifting videos!
Posted by: thinkverybig on Oct 27, 2008 6:17 AM   
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The videos below are about change, inspiration, belief and compassion. I hope you like them and share them with everyone you know. We are headed in a new direction in the world we live and we as a society can embrace this new era with love. I ask for your support in helping spread the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM58nqX1ehE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN_pGy_1bEg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD0iAQN7VPY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpfHz_WeXHw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH9BtZwTyHo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWVGsuNecYg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UssvnQMn-EM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdfvQmh3b90

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Enn5yiY-0



Go to youtube and do a search for "thinkverybig" and watch all of those videos. The one called "We Must Change" would be fitting to recite at Obama's Inauguration.

Here's a community organizer that's reached out to over 20,000 youth and has a goal of touching a million by teaching them the game of life using the game of chess. Click below to watch video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLFENGymr34

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» I love the sentiment Posted by: IPF
This article is completely wrong about the CRA
Posted by: voight on Oct 27, 2008 6:27 AM   
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This entire article hinges on the distinction between CRA-covered banks and non-CRA covered mortgage companies. This distinction is meaningless, and its repetition in liberal blogs is misleading.

The non-CRA covered mortgage companies were packing these loans up into securities that earned CRA credit for the banks purchasing the securities.

For example, see the old Countrywide website for their "CRA Program". Countrywide Home Loans was not a bank, so they weren't covered by the CRA. But their old website bragged about hundreds of billions in subprime mortgages, and was blatantly trying to sell them to banks as packaged securities for CRA credit. To see their old website, go to:
Countrywide Home Loans CRA Program.

No, the CRA is, in fact, tied to Countrywide, and all these other subprime mortgage securities, whether or not you like it. And this link is being blatantly ignored by a lot of these blogs. I guess if we keep repeating it, perhaps it will become true? I thought we were so much more enlightened than that.

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» RE: CRAp! Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: CRAp! Posted by: voight
» RE: CRAp! Posted by: Cybershaman
The Bailout is a Sham
Posted by: Carol Burns on Oct 27, 2008 6:33 AM   
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Where was the oversight on these "shade-tree" lenders? Why were they not regulated like the banks? I was a real estate agent in the 80's, when interest rates were 14 percent and the ARM's were gaining traction, and I would NEVER have pushed an ARM on any buyer, nor recommended that they pay high origination fees when there were other lenders willing to forego such fees. We need investigations, not bailouts. We need prosecutions, not a free ride.

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» RE: The Bailout is a Sham Posted by: Cybershaman
LOL, the GOP
Posted by: RedFoxOne on Oct 27, 2008 7:17 AM   
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Well, everyone know the GOP consists of a bunch of bottom feeding, greedy idiots so this comes as no surprise at all. they were too busy taking kickbacks from all sub prime bliss to care. Idiots.

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ACORN sounding the alarm? - what a joke!
Posted by: Karl.Ben on Oct 27, 2008 7:49 AM   
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This article is a joke - No one is coming to the defense of ACORN and their strong arm practices are well detailed as is their ties to the democrat party. They may also be responsible for the worst voter fraud practices ever! If they had supported the GOP instead of the democrats, liberal all over the country would be protesting, violently I might add!

They surely not the only reason we had a financial meltdown but they are in the center of the storm along with the democrats. Ultimately it was up to Bush and the GOP for not just sounding the alarm, but to do something about it- after all, he was supposed to be incharge!

So what are Americans about to do - hand the keys to those responsible for our crises so they can just make it worse!

Ever wonder why ACORN hasn't pushed for an independent but for a party member? MONEY!!!

Our country is doomed!

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» Prosecute ACORN!! Posted by: IPF
» RE: Prosecute ACORN!! Posted by: Quannah
Rationalization by projection
Posted by: willymack on Oct 27, 2008 8:38 AM   
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In the nether world of a person with a severe personality disorder (or full-blown psychosis), that person's misfortunes are ALWAYS attributed to external forces or agents, against which said person is powerless. This has grown to grotesque proportions as it's become a group phenomona in the persons of the rethugs and their supporters. We have a lot of problems in this country, but none more pressing than the mind-set of those now in power. They,ve got to go, and the sooner, the better.

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You wanna know the kind of nuts who join ACORN?
Posted by: sausage on Oct 27, 2008 9:18 AM   
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I used to work with a guy who was an ACORN member. He always had a smile and a kind word for everybody at work, kind a hard thing to do considering we worked at the Post Office. He loved to polka.

The last time I saw him was at the Carpenters' Union hall for a Gore rally. He was dying of stomach cancer but still had a smile on his face.

The other guy I know of who belonged to ACORN is my 84-year-old dad's best friend: a World War II veteran, Bell System employee and CWA member, he and his wife raised 6 kids and sent them though Catholic schools.

Radicals, ain't they?

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You wanna know the kind of nuts who join ACORN?
Posted by: sausage on Oct 27, 2008 9:30 AM   
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I used to work with a guy who belonged to ACORN. He always had a smile on his face and a kind word for everybody. This was kind of hard since we both worked for the Post Office. I remember he loved to dance the polka, too.

The last time I saw him as at a rally for Al Gore at the Carpenters' Union hall. He was dying of stomach cancer at the time but could still smile, joke and look toward a better future.

The other guy I know who's an ACORN member is my 84-year-old dad's best friend. My dad's buddy is a World War II vet, paratrooper with MacArthur in the Pacific theater, worked for the Bell System and was a dues-paying member of the CWA. He and his wife raised 6 kids and sent them all through Catholic schools.

Real radical socialist, ain't they?

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Here We Are - It's 1980 All Over Again...
Posted by: petey0571 on Oct 27, 2008 10:20 AM   
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Well here we are, in a recession again, and an energy crisis as well. After Republican rule for 20 of the last 28 years, here we are right back in the same situation that they blamed on Carter. Only this time it's the Republicans holding the bag. The reality is both parties voted to de-regulate in 2000. The commodity futures modernization act basically legalized gambling for Wall St. without any government oversight. The CRA specifically prohibits making loans that are not safe for the banks or the borrower. Has anybody here actually read it?

Don't just get the news from your favorite political commentator, find out what's really going on. While we're sitting here bickering over Democrats and Republicans, the ones with the money are getting away scott free.

BTW, the Pentagon still has 2 Trillion dollars that it has no idea where it is. That's trillion with a T. How come there's no outrage about THAT.

I'll bet if ACORN took it there would be some action...

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Oh please, Obama is so far into the corporate stronghold
Posted by: eeezzz on Oct 28, 2008 8:20 AM   
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It's scary that you can't bear to face that. But, soon, you won't have a choice- it will be obvious to all. He will be using his "inner talents" allright.

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» RE: Oh please, eeezzz Posted by: Quannah
They Both Did it
Posted by: websmith on Oct 27, 2008 7:16 PM   
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By supporting legislation that pushed the banks to create more mortgages in rural and less prosperous areas, Obama is as guilty as anyone else for this economic disaster. Democrats and Republicans all did it on behalf of special interests.

http://ewebsmith.com/Finance/notlistening.html

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Early Voting Sees Reports of Voter Intimidation, Machine Malfunctions
Posted by: cori on Oct 27, 2008 8:24 PM   
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by: Amy Goodman, Democracy Now! MARK CRISPIN MILLER: Well, I know because there's been an audit of the vote in eighteen counties of Ohio by a researcher named Richard Hayes Phillips, who had his team literally scrutinize every single ballot that was warehoused in eighteen Ohio counties. They took over 30,000 digital photographs. This is not speculation, Amy. This is a meticulous, careful, specific and conclusive demonstration that John Kerry actually won some 200,000 votes in those eighteen counties only that were taken away from him. Bush's official victory margin, you may recall, was about 118,000. So there is no question about it. Ohio was stolen.


Early voting has begun, and problems are already emerging at the polls. In West Virginia, voters using touchscreen machines have claimed their votes were switched from Democrat to Republican. In North Carolina, a group of McCain supporters heckled a group of mostly black supporters of Barack Obama. In Ohio, Republicans are being accused of trying to scare newly registered voters by filing lawsuits that question their eligibility. We speak to NYU professor Mark Crispin Miller, author of Loser Take All: Election Fraud and the Subversion of Democracy.

You know, they pay people, basically, to register other voters. So, naturally, from time to time, some volunteer who wants the money will fill out a registration form, you know, with Mickey Mouse or the names of the Dallas Cowboys, something like that. Precisely because that is an ever-present possibility, the people at ACORN have always scrupulously checked the forms before submitting them.

And ten days ago, what they did was, in Las Vegas, their office in Las Vegas, they found a number of these suspicious forms, handed them over directly to the Secretary of State in Nevada, and his response was to turn around and say, "Aha! Here is evidence that you're conspiring to commit voter fraud." Now, that effort, that drive went from Nevada to Missouri to Ohio, and now we hear that the FBI is investigating ACORN.

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if you see that you voted for obama and it reads mccain make a fuss
Posted by: cori on Oct 27, 2008 8:26 PM   
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Just don't walk away. Insist that your vote was not counted correctly

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ROVE AND REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO STEAL THE ELECTION AGAIN
Posted by: cori on Oct 27, 2008 8:30 PM   
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AMY GOODMAN: But they have the pictures of the ballots.

MARK CRISPIN MILLER: Of the variously altered, mutilated ballots, yes. Ballots with stickers placed over the square that people had blacked in for Kerry/Edwards; somebody else blacks in Bush/Cheney. Thousands and thousands of ballots that were pre-marked before they were distributed, so that people would mark different boxes on them, and then they would be invalidated.

Even more chilling is the fact that after Phillips did his research, the boards of elections in fifty-five Ohio counties destroyed all or some of their ballots in defiance of a court order. So we have criminal behavior here of a kind of grand and systematic kind. But the point is-not to engage in what Sarah Palin calls finger-pointing backwards, the point here is to note that we're dealing with a consistent pattern of subversive behavior by the Republican Party since 2000 and extending all the way up to the present. What we're seeing now is an especially brazen and diverse range of dirty tricks and tactics that are being used both to suppress the vote and also to enable election fraud.

THEY ARE DESTROYING OUR MOST FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT, OUR RIGHT TO VOTE. AND BUSH'S VOTING MACHINE HACKERS ARRE NOW WORKING FOR MCCAIN! GO TO TRUTHOUT TO HEAR THE FULL STORY

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I would rather lick Obama's ass then kiss Palin
Posted by: PalinHater on Oct 30, 2008 1:47 PM   
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I am as far left as possible - but to say Acorn is respected is just another thing the rightwing can say we lie about. Acorn has tainted this election - and when we win we will have to live knowing those "nuts" tainted our victory. To knowing encourage voter fraud and then try and defend yourself is impossible to understand. Unless we are what the right says we are - before the election we have to encourage the nuts to document every fraudulent voter registration and every one of those frauds who has already cast a vote.

We must do this to protect our reputation.

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