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Wall Street's Economic Chaos Has Big Political Consequences
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Bumpy is no word for it. The news coming out of Wall Street makes what the three presidential candidates are saying beside the point. Cancel the fun. The bad news also bids fair to change the daily lives of 300 million Americans. No, kidding, folks. What's going on in the business world is as serious as it can get.
Events unfolding this week on the lower end of Manhattan will cancel out all the projects John McCain, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have been talking about. McCain will have to deal with the home truth that, though he may dig up enough soldier boys for the Middle Eastern wars, there is no money to pay for them. And thanks to the ever-shrinking dollar, other countries are not going to lend us more money to carry them on. We have run out of money: it's time to cut and run.
The billions that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama would have had to spend to do the wonderful things they are dangling in front of the voters do not exist. Tradition has always allowed campaigning candidates to make promises they will not make good on, but this time they are bumping up against the limits of the plausible, let alone the possible. It might be helpful if they would ease off with the pretty pictures.
There will be no health insurance for everyone. No long-needed increases in teachers' salaries, no big infrastructure projects, no decent-paying new jobs for those laid-off workers in Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania, and nothing for single-parent (read mothers) households. There is no money. As things stand now we may have to spend hundreds of billions to prevent millions of people from being thrown out of their homes and billions more to prop our crooked, avaricious, heedless and duplicitous financial system so it does not come crashing down on all of us.
Just a couple of days ago the Federal Reserve Board committed a mere $200 billion to Wall Street to back up their rotten bonds. The news of that expensive move had hardly been digested when it was announced that the Fed would pledge untold billions more to keep the investment banking house of Bear Stearns from sinking with all hands aboard.
The floatation device was a hastily arrange purchase of the once prestigious, 85-year-old investment bank by J.P. Morgan for $2 a share, which a little more than a year ago was selling for $170 and as recently as a couple of days ago for $30. God only knows how much this will cost the government by the time the expensive, gory details are ironed out, something that will take months.
This news prompted the New York Times's Gretchen Morgenson, one of the best business journalists around, to write, "What are the consequences of a world in which regulators rescue even the financial institutions whose recklessness and greed helped create the titanic credit mess we are in? Will the consequences be an even weaker currency, rampant inflation, a continuation of the slow bleed that we have witnessed at banks and brokerage firms for the past year?"
The answers to Morgenson's question may well be yes and even worse. As of now nothing is clear, nothing is certain and nothing can relied on. In the chaos which has taken over Wall Street, the Fed, the Treasury Department and the other organs of government concerned with managing the crisis, there comes a new announcement of a new remedy every hour.
Nobody knows if these remedies will blow off the hysteria and restore a modicum of order. Nor do we know who is being saved by our panicky federal officials. Are they saving some millions of jobs and homes, which may be in danger from the fallout stemming from this train of financial disasters? Or are they saving some of the most despicable rich guys to make an appearance in our society since the 1870s, when Jim Fisk, Commodore Vanderbilt and Jay Gould roamed the earth?
We cannot answer that question any more than we can Morgenson's. We are in unknown territory facing situations that have never arisen before and taking measures that have never been tried. For the present we know that Bear Stearns/J.P. Morgan has been saved -- sort of. We suspect that some thousands of Bear employees will lose their jobs in the near future; we know that the news of the latest Fed actions was quickly followed by a fall in stock prices in Asia and another dip in the value of the dollar.
In a few weeks this latest insult to the once-imperial Yankee dollar will express itself in higher gasoline prices. That will hurt, but it may be the least of our pain. No body, no government agency, no clutch of economics professors, certainly nobody on Wall Street can lay out a plan of action. We do not know the dimensions of the storm buffeting us but that it is huge and enormously dangerous there can be no doubt.
It would be dunderheaded to demand of our three presidential candidates that they and their campaigns do what nobody else can. We cannot expect them to offer a program of action. But it is not asking too much of them to cut down on the blue-sky promises and come on back down to reality. It would reassure some of the voters if they would acknowledge that we are teetering on one helluva big problem. It's going to be a bumpy night.
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Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Mar 17, 2008 12:27 PM
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» Yes, and as usual the rich are bailed out, the poor shafted
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» Bear Stearns was bought out for $2 per share or about $236 million. The other choice was bankruptcy.
Posted by: yellow
» Bear
Posted by: mrcentrist
» Mr.Centrist clearly didn't read my post too carefully. The big banks basically control our economy.
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» RE: A couple of points here
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» RE: A couple of points here
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» Yellow, you should listen to Jim Roger's comment
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» RE: Yellow, you should listen to Jim Roger's comment
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» RE: ron paul is looking better and better, isn't he?
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» Ron Paul is not just a crackpot, he's a dangerous reactionary
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Posted by: Cathyc on Mar 17, 2008 12:35 PM
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» RE: The Titanic is sinking...
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Posted by: PakiBoy on Mar 17, 2008 12:43 PM
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» The neolibs love it, sadly and pathetically.
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» They'll blame it on too much regulation.
Posted by: Sojourner
» It is a monopolistic system...
Posted by: greentime
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Posted by: Zimbly on Mar 17, 2008 1:08 PM
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The time to change the Banking Laws was after the Oct 1929 collapse...but nothing was actually done and people and the economy is no less vulnerable today, yet the issue, the core issue is avoided.
If we want REAL change..then these laws are the ones that need to be changed and then strictly enforced.....and that will be when..... hell freezes over.
Its all falling into place exactly as they planned..this is where the Media shines in its demonic brilliance...it all looks like a series of accidental unrelated mishaps...whoops jug.... it just fell over, it wasn't my fault ..honest :)
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Mar 17, 2008 1:10 PM
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With a derivatives scandal balooned up to about $700 trillion (that's right, trillion) it's only a matter of WHEN and not if this insane Fascist system rigged and ruled by monopolist corporate crime will crash and burn.
As bad as the crash itself is the corporate cartel owned MSM that will blame extremes of "capitalism" when the system we live under is no such thing (real competition and open markets need to exist for “capitalism” to be real). This is the reality under Fascism as a private monopoly bank – the so-called Federal Reserve Corp bails out other super-privileged investment banks and wealthy cronies as ordinary people are further impoverished.
The Kucinichs (Elizabeth actually) and Ron Paul both warned of this.
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Posted by: writerman on Mar 17, 2008 1:48 PM
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It's extraordinary that there is so little discussion in the mainstream media about the 'morality' or wisdom of using such colossal sums to save a financial system that has acted so incredibly irresponsibly.
It kind of illustrates that our current political system is a blatant sham, a dysfunctional democracy that's on its last legs. This is 'hand-outs' on a gigantic scale. This is lavish corporate social security dwarfing comprehension. It's all carrot and no stick. How differently the super-rich are treated compared to the super-poor!
One would almost like to see such a corrupt and hypocritical system collapse, only the consequences of a second Great Depression wouldn't be exactly a pinic for the poor who'd suffer disproportionally and deeply.
It's now forty years since the events of 1968, maybe it's time, before it's too late, to set the Revolutionary bandwagon rolling once more, and this time you can count me in!
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» RE: corporate socialism?
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» RE: US on its last legs? the world very much hopes so!
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» RE: US on its last legs? the world very much hopes so!
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Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Mar 17, 2008 2:06 PM
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An eventually all energy in America if we are to thrive and survive..!
This is the only real solution we can cut costs immediately by 3-35% and have as much as %50-60 billion for alternative fuel development and new technologies and also create an economic boom while doing it..!
Also it would end the huge corruption in our government from this insidious group which controls this industry and create many good paying jobs for Americans as employment has been cut simply to boost profits also address the failing oil infrastructure not to mention the American infrastructure itself..!
It will promote commerce and eventually we can cut costs further..we might even be able to develop Fusion technology..not to mention avoiding senseless wasteful murderous wars for dwindling oil..
There are so many reasons to do this and it can still be traded on the stock exchange as are the other state owned oil industries which are by the way doing the best word wide..!
Remember the American oil Industry is not in the business of putting itself out of business..that's up to us the American people for our won survival and the future and progress from this 19th century economic model we suffer now under..!
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» The smart countries are already nationalizing their energy industries.
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Posted by: gazooks on Mar 17, 2008 2:12 PM
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The recent Congressional hearings on steroid use in professional sports held more irony, mostly missed by most, in it's facsimile role to our recently touted, record setting, home run hitting, self congratulating economy.
But just as in the physiology of the arm with a 106 MPH fast-ball, or the bone crunching sack record of a curiously Cro-Magnon lineman, it ain't at all necessarily what it seems, how it's spun or what's to be done.
America has been at the forefront of a lot of things, confident in successful applications of science and technology worthy of a wonderland. Exempt from the stodgy rules of the past, exchanged for a premise that innovation rules, we were bid to disregard a multi-millennial wisdom. If you ain't got it, don't spend it. Wealth is what you have after the bills are paid.
We've spent the last 80 years in a process of ever graduated increases in leverage, ever sophisticating rationale, theoretic justification and innumerable material incentives for incurring our now gargantuan, obscenely leveraged, un-repayable debt to the entire globe.
In the process of enabling eternal economic growth, with ever deferred payments, and 700 trillion in hedged bets, we've been jabbing ourselves in the ass with ever increasing frequency and quantity of steroidal debt to keep on feelin' fine an' sippin' the wine.
Well, endgame. The whine that you hear along with the wop is the turbo drive to the printing presses at the Fed. They're fueling Ben's chopper for another flight of Fed fancy past Bear Sterns on the way to Fannie Mae. (Is that near Weimar?)
By the way, the dollar in your wallet, is now worth, well... not as much as it was when you started this sentence.
Why then, I wonder, has our Prez suddenly become the smiley song and dance man?
He's singin', just singin' in the rain.
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Mar 17, 2008 3:03 PM
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» RE: WE CAN REGULATE BANKS AND WALL ST.
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Posted by: PaulK on Mar 17, 2008 4:11 PM
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If you want to know why the price of heating oil and gasoline is so high, just say the word again. It's time to pay for Iraq. No, we can't afford the war in Iran too.
Now, the regime has to choose between 2 options. It can either let a number of huge banks collapse, or it can make the dollar worth a dime. Hmmm.
Do not run on the bank. Walk. If your money is in either Bank of America (which bought CountryWide's debts) or Morgan (which just bought Bear Stearns's debts) you might have a problem soon. Move your checking account to a local credit union. Most of the country's Bailey Buildings and Loans are pretty sound.
If you have bonds, you should learn what ordinary Brazilians did with their Cruzados during hyperinflation 20 years ago. Put your excess money into a stock index fund. Better yet, put it in foreign stocks.
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» RE: I R A Q ! ! !
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Mar 17, 2008 4:30 PM
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The younger kids either were unable to decide or argued that all of that was out of date and the regulatory agencies and rules really didn't protect anybody. The old guys looked at each other and shook their heads.
Most of those guys are long gone from this life and the youngsters I described are now all mid-late 40-somethings with real jobs, kids in college and are looking at some scary prospects as retirement looms only 20 years ahead.
From Reagan to Bush the Idiot, our nation has been deconstructing the regulations, firewall legal restrictions and agencies created in the aftermath of the Great Depression to keep it from happening again. The only difference between a Clinton and Bush Administration, economically, was the speed with which the deconstruction took place. Now it is mostly done, with the exception of Social Security- which Bush really pushed to privatize right after the 2004 election cycle.
The nation is entering a period of pain few living can remember and one that could well last into many of our retirement years. The truth is the US Government is broke and deeply in debt, despite having massive obligations to people who will desperately need that help and assistance. Most of the 401k.403b generation of workers have woefully under-saved for retirement and a bear market will not help things.
27 years of Republican and 'roll over' Democratic leadership has come to full flower and now we are going to get the tab. It's going to get ugly. We need to get the tar and feathers ready and meet up in Washington and Wall Street. It's way overdue.
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Posted by: Straight Arrow PR on Mar 17, 2008 5:22 PM
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Aside from the ignorance and overpromising from our "Presidential" candidates; we have to wonder why our "journalists" have failed to ask more questions related to this issue.
Oh yeah, what a stupid idea it was to support Michael Bloomberg for President. Why would we want a proven problem solver who can get the job done with a balanced budget.
Bill Hawkins
Silver Bullet Project
Tampa Bay, Florida
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Posted by: maxpayne on Mar 17, 2008 6:29 PM
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VOTENADER.ORG !!!!
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Posted by: PakiBoy on Mar 17, 2008 8:51 PM
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Americans (white males) are the principals of this coming catastrophy. Since the Nixon era the majority of these morons have been voting against the nations (and their own interest) to vote for a political system that has gradually dismantled the hard-won protections of the New Deal era.
America has been betrayed by her white sons.
One only has to listen to the filth that goes for 'intelligent discourse' on the wingnut radio to grasp that white male America has gone mad.
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» bravo!
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» your white hood is showing
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» RE: You can't argue the facts; and I don't blame all whites, or even all white males
Posted by: PakiBoy
» RE: You can't argue the facts; and I don't blame all whites, or even all white males
Posted by: ben24
» RE: I bet you are one of the 62% of white male troglodytes that voted
Posted by: PakiBoy
» Not really
Posted by: ben24
» always a victim of someone, aren't you?
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Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Mar 17, 2008 12:27 PM
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» Yes, and as usual the rich are bailed out, the poor shafted
Posted by: Moonray
» Bear Stearns was bought out for $2 per share or about $236 million. The other choice was bankruptcy.
Posted by: yellow
» Bear
Posted by: mrcentrist
» Mr.Centrist clearly didn't read my post too carefully. The big banks basically control our economy.
Posted by: yellow
» RE: A couple of points here
Posted by: UnEasyOne
» RE: A couple of points here
Posted by: yellow
» Yellow, you should listen to Jim Roger's comment
Posted by: ReallyBearish
» RE: Yellow, you should listen to Jim Roger's comment
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» RE: ron paul is looking better and better, isn't he?
Posted by: yellow
» Ron Paul is not just a crackpot, he's a dangerous reactionary
Posted by: joeunix
» RE: on Paul is not just a crackpot, he's a dangerous reactionary
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Posted by: Cathyc on Mar 17, 2008 12:35 PM
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» RE: The Titanic is sinking...
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» RE: The Titanic is sinking...
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Posted by: PakiBoy on Mar 17, 2008 12:43 PM
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» The neolibs love it, sadly and pathetically.
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» They'll blame it on too much regulation.
Posted by: Sojourner
» It is a monopolistic system...
Posted by: greentime
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Posted by: Zimbly on Mar 17, 2008 1:08 PM
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The time to change the Banking Laws was after the Oct 1929 collapse...but nothing was actually done and people and the economy is no less vulnerable today, yet the issue, the core issue is avoided.
If we want REAL change..then these laws are the ones that need to be changed and then strictly enforced.....and that will be when..... hell freezes over.
Its all falling into place exactly as they planned..this is where the Media shines in its demonic brilliance...it all looks like a series of accidental unrelated mishaps...whoops jug.... it just fell over, it wasn't my fault ..honest :)
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» RE: THE SKY IS FALLING
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Mar 17, 2008 1:10 PM
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With a derivatives scandal balooned up to about $700 trillion (that's right, trillion) it's only a matter of WHEN and not if this insane Fascist system rigged and ruled by monopolist corporate crime will crash and burn.
As bad as the crash itself is the corporate cartel owned MSM that will blame extremes of "capitalism" when the system we live under is no such thing (real competition and open markets need to exist for “capitalism” to be real). This is the reality under Fascism as a private monopoly bank – the so-called Federal Reserve Corp bails out other super-privileged investment banks and wealthy cronies as ordinary people are further impoverished.
The Kucinichs (Elizabeth actually) and Ron Paul both warned of this.
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Posted by: writerman on Mar 17, 2008 1:48 PM
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It's extraordinary that there is so little discussion in the mainstream media about the 'morality' or wisdom of using such colossal sums to save a financial system that has acted so incredibly irresponsibly.
It kind of illustrates that our current political system is a blatant sham, a dysfunctional democracy that's on its last legs. This is 'hand-outs' on a gigantic scale. This is lavish corporate social security dwarfing comprehension. It's all carrot and no stick. How differently the super-rich are treated compared to the super-poor!
One would almost like to see such a corrupt and hypocritical system collapse, only the consequences of a second Great Depression wouldn't be exactly a pinic for the poor who'd suffer disproportionally and deeply.
It's now forty years since the events of 1968, maybe it's time, before it's too late, to set the Revolutionary bandwagon rolling once more, and this time you can count me in!
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» RE: corporate socialism?
Posted by: particle61
» RE: corporate socialism?
Posted by: dangerouslysane
» RE: US on its last legs? the world very much hopes so!
Posted by: PakiBoy
» RE: US on its last legs? the world very much hopes so!
Posted by: EncinoM
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Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on Mar 17, 2008 2:06 PM
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An eventually all energy in America if we are to thrive and survive..!
This is the only real solution we can cut costs immediately by 3-35% and have as much as %50-60 billion for alternative fuel development and new technologies and also create an economic boom while doing it..!
Also it would end the huge corruption in our government from this insidious group which controls this industry and create many good paying jobs for Americans as employment has been cut simply to boost profits also address the failing oil infrastructure not to mention the American infrastructure itself..!
It will promote commerce and eventually we can cut costs further..we might even be able to develop Fusion technology..not to mention avoiding senseless wasteful murderous wars for dwindling oil..
There are so many reasons to do this and it can still be traded on the stock exchange as are the other state owned oil industries which are by the way doing the best word wide..!
Remember the American oil Industry is not in the business of putting itself out of business..that's up to us the American people for our won survival and the future and progress from this 19th century economic model we suffer now under..!
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» The smart countries are already nationalizing their energy industries.
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Posted by: gazooks on Mar 17, 2008 2:12 PM
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The recent Congressional hearings on steroid use in professional sports held more irony, mostly missed by most, in it's facsimile role to our recently touted, record setting, home run hitting, self congratulating economy.
But just as in the physiology of the arm with a 106 MPH fast-ball, or the bone crunching sack record of a curiously Cro-Magnon lineman, it ain't at all necessarily what it seems, how it's spun or what's to be done.
America has been at the forefront of a lot of things, confident in successful applications of science and technology worthy of a wonderland. Exempt from the stodgy rules of the past, exchanged for a premise that innovation rules, we were bid to disregard a multi-millennial wisdom. If you ain't got it, don't spend it. Wealth is what you have after the bills are paid.
We've spent the last 80 years in a process of ever graduated increases in leverage, ever sophisticating rationale, theoretic justification and innumerable material incentives for incurring our now gargantuan, obscenely leveraged, un-repayable debt to the entire globe.
In the process of enabling eternal economic growth, with ever deferred payments, and 700 trillion in hedged bets, we've been jabbing ourselves in the ass with ever increasing frequency and quantity of steroidal debt to keep on feelin' fine an' sippin' the wine.
Well, endgame. The whine that you hear along with the wop is the turbo drive to the printing presses at the Fed. They're fueling Ben's chopper for another flight of Fed fancy past Bear Sterns on the way to Fannie Mae. (Is that near Weimar?)
By the way, the dollar in your wallet, is now worth, well... not as much as it was when you started this sentence.
Why then, I wonder, has our Prez suddenly become the smiley song and dance man?
He's singin', just singin' in the rain.
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Posted by: sofla100 on Mar 17, 2008 2:32 PM
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Mar 17, 2008 3:03 PM
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Posted by: PaulK on Mar 17, 2008 4:11 PM
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If you want to know why the price of heating oil and gasoline is so high, just say the word again. It's time to pay for Iraq. No, we can't afford the war in Iran too.
Now, the regime has to choose between 2 options. It can either let a number of huge banks collapse, or it can make the dollar worth a dime. Hmmm.
Do not run on the bank. Walk. If your money is in either Bank of America (which bought CountryWide's debts) or Morgan (which just bought Bear Stearns's debts) you might have a problem soon. Move your checking account to a local credit union. Most of the country's Bailey Buildings and Loans are pretty sound.
If you have bonds, you should learn what ordinary Brazilians did with their Cruzados during hyperinflation 20 years ago. Put your excess money into a stock index fund. Better yet, put it in foreign stocks.
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» RE: I R A Q ! ! !
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Mar 17, 2008 4:30 PM
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The younger kids either were unable to decide or argued that all of that was out of date and the regulatory agencies and rules really didn't protect anybody. The old guys looked at each other and shook their heads.
Most of those guys are long gone from this life and the youngsters I described are now all mid-late 40-somethings with real jobs, kids in college and are looking at some scary prospects as retirement looms only 20 years ahead.
From Reagan to Bush the Idiot, our nation has been deconstructing the regulations, firewall legal restrictions and agencies created in the aftermath of the Great Depression to keep it from happening again. The only difference between a Clinton and Bush Administration, economically, was the speed with which the deconstruction took place. Now it is mostly done, with the exception of Social Security- which Bush really pushed to privatize right after the 2004 election cycle.
The nation is entering a period of pain few living can remember and one that could well last into many of our retirement years. The truth is the US Government is broke and deeply in debt, despite having massive obligations to people who will desperately need that help and assistance. Most of the 401k.403b generation of workers have woefully under-saved for retirement and a bear market will not help things.
27 years of Republican and 'roll over' Democratic leadership has come to full flower and now we are going to get the tab. It's going to get ugly. We need to get the tar and feathers ready and meet up in Washington and Wall Street. It's way overdue.
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Posted by: Straight Arrow PR on Mar 17, 2008 5:22 PM
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Aside from the ignorance and overpromising from our "Presidential" candidates; we have to wonder why our "journalists" have failed to ask more questions related to this issue.
Oh yeah, what a stupid idea it was to support Michael Bloomberg for President. Why would we want a proven problem solver who can get the job done with a balanced budget.
Bill Hawkins
Silver Bullet Project
Tampa Bay, Florida
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Posted by: maxpayne on Mar 17, 2008 6:29 PM
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VOTENADER.ORG !!!!
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Posted by: PakiBoy on Mar 17, 2008 8:51 PM
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Americans (white males) are the principals of this coming catastrophy. Since the Nixon era the majority of these morons have been voting against the nations (and their own interest) to vote for a political system that has gradually dismantled the hard-won protections of the New Deal era.
America has been betrayed by her white sons.
One only has to listen to the filth that goes for 'intelligent discourse' on the wingnut radio to grasp that white male America has gone mad.
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» RE: Whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad
Posted by: EncinoM
» bravo!
Posted by: undrgrndgirl
» your white hood is showing
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
» RE: You can't argue the facts; and I don't blame all whites, or even all white males
Posted by: PakiBoy
» RE: You can't argue the facts; and I don't blame all whites, or even all white males
Posted by: ben24
» RE: I bet you are one of the 62% of white male troglodytes that voted
Posted by: PakiBoy
» Not really
Posted by: ben24
» always a victim of someone, aren't you?
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