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Just to remind everyone, we are in the middle of a meltdown of an $8 trillion housing bubble. In the most recent data, house prices were declining at a 16 percent annual rate. This rate of price decline implies a loss of $3.2 trillion (more than $40,000 per homeowner) over the course of a year. This collapse is throwing the economy into a recession and leading millions of people to lose their homes.
As part of this story, most of the major banks have taken huge hits as a result of the fact that the financial wizards who guide them apparently didn't know what they were doing. Most of these banks have seen their stock prices tumble by 50 percent, or more, as they have taken write-downs of bad debt that now exceed $100 billion. Citigroup, the gargantuan bank that has former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin near the helm, currently tops the charts with more than $20 billion in write-downs. Everyone agrees there is much more on the way.
Clearly these are desperate times, but fortunately the government is there to lend a helping hand. The Office of Thrift Supervision (OTS), the agency that supervises the country's savings and loan institutions (that's right, as in the huge bailout of the 80s), has come up with a brilliant plan to help the banks. They want to hand them tens of billions of dollars by having the government buy up bad mortgage debt.
Here's the deal: The foreclosure rate is at a record high and rising rapidly. The collapse of the housing bubble has left millions of homeowners with mortgages that are underwater, with the value of the mortgage exceeding the value of their house. This makes it more difficult for them to hang onto their homes if they want to, since homeowners have no equity against which they can borrow to pay their mortgages in bad times. This situation is aggravated by predatory mortgages that were peddled en masse in the bubble years.
Other homeowners may no longer want to keep their homes because they owe more than the value of their house. It doesn't necessarily make sense to pay off a $240,000 mortgage on a house that is worth $200,000. For this reason, millions of homeowners are simply allowing banks to foreclose on their homes, letting them eat large losses on their loans.
The OTS plan has the government come to the rescue in this crisis. It would have existing loans restructured so underwater mortgages would be broken into two parts. A new mortgage would be issued that is equal to the current market value of the house. This new mortgage is guaranteed by the government.
The other portion of the mortgage is turned into a certificate that is equal to the difference between the value of the original mortgage and the current value of the house. This certificate is a claim against the sale value of the house, if it exceeds the value of the new mortgage.
In the example used by the OTS, the original mortgage is $220,000 for a home that is now worth $200,000. In this case, the new guaranteed mortgage is equal to $200,000. The holder of the old mortgage gets a certificate for $20,000. This certificate gives the holder (it can be traded) a claim against any money the homeowner gets from selling the house, after paying off the mortgage, up to $20,000.
The OTS would have us believe this is a win-win for homeowners, investors and the public. While they may have convinced the born-yesterday crowd that reports the news, it's not hard to find the trick.
House prices are falling. The home appraised (do we have honest appraisers?) for $200,000 today is likely to be worth 15 percent to 30 percent less in a year or two. That means a very high portion of the mortgages guaranteed today will subsequently go bad, requiring the government to make good on the guarantee.
To use the OTS numbers, suppose we put up $100 billion to guarantee 500,000 mortgages ($200,000 per mortgage). Let's say 40 percent of the mortgages subsequently go bad, costing an average of 50 percent of the face value, since homes will have to be sold at large losses. That means the OTS scheme will cost taxpayers $20 billion.
Of course proponents of the OTS scheme will point out we still allowed 300,000 low- and moderate-income families to stay in their houses. That is not much to show for our $20 billion investment. First, a substantial number of these homeowners -- say 100,000, or one fifth -- would have kept their homes in any case. That means we spent $20 billion to keep 200,000 people as homeowners. That's $100,000 per homeowner.
Furthermore, the vast majority of these homeowners will sell their homes before they ever accumulate a dime in equity. And they will almost certainly pay far more in mortgage and property tax each month than they would pay to rent a comparable home. This is housing policy that only a hare-brained Washington bureaucrat could love.
Oh yeah, the policy is an effective way to get money to Citigroup and other troubled banks, so at least it will do some good.
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Posted by: ReallyBearish on Feb 26, 2008 12:31 PM
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Of course, any idiot holding dollars or debt will be screwed, but hey, someone has to pay. The banks can buy derivatives to hedge the dollar and they won't get hurt.
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» The Best thing to hedge the dollar is gold but that fluctuates too. There is no real hedge.
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Posted by: yellow on Feb 26, 2008 9:40 PM
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Posted by: mmckinl on Feb 26, 2008 6:17 PM
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The Banks are Already Bankrupt !
courtesy; automatic earth
The Banking system is now bankrupt :
"US banks have no reserves; they are for all intents and purposes, broke. In fact they are beyond broke and as I suggested last year banks are now sub-prime. 150% of the reserves at depository institutions are borrowed. That can only mean one thing, the banks have "lost" 1.5 times their original non borrowed reserves. Not only have they lost what they had, they went on and lost half as much again. If you or I did that, we would be bankrupted and probably arrested for attempting to defraud the lender.
Notice the amount of total reserves (yellow line) is roughly equal and appears cyclical to the Federal Reserve TAF lending program. The Fed is no longer the "lender of last resort" it has become the de-facto Bank of the USA."
Bank Reserves and Loans
The bailouts are already well under way on the taxpayers tab, unfortunately all this money has done little to stem the crisis. Bernanke and Paulson are beholden to their clients in the privately owned and operated "Federal Reserve Banking System' and will bankrupt the United States should they be allowed to continue defending these bankrupt institutions.
We need to fire the privately owned and operated Federal Reserve and install a Public Central Bank whose first duty is not to its' owners and members as is the case with the Federal Reserve , but to the public.
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» The FED is not at fault. They didn't make the bad loans nor did they deregulate commercial banking
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» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
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» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: yellow
» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: JSquercia
» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: yellow
» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: mmckinl
» You don't understand economics. Low interest rates will not help banks who favor high interest rates
Posted by: yellow
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ...
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ...
Posted by: yellow
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ... Negative Reserves !
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ... 10 x leverage !
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ... 10 x leverage !
Posted by: yellow
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ... 10 x leverage !
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ... 10 x leverage !
Posted by: yellow
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ... 10 x leverage !
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ... 10 x leverage !
Posted by: JSquercia
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ...
Posted by: JSquercia
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ...
Posted by: yellow
» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: JSquercia
» Now you've got it. Deregulation is the key.
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Feb 27, 2008 7:47 AM
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Adjustable-rate loans were predicted to be more valuable than flat-rate loans. Bond packages made up of numerous adjustable rate loans were viewed as more attractive by fund investors. As a result, mortgage brokers were paid more for selling adjustable-rate mortgages than for flat-rate mortgages.
Is that predatory lending? Comes pretty close, in any case.
So:
1) Brokers wanted to continue to earn commissions.
2) Homeowners wanted to refinance their loans every few years as their homes increased in vauebanks wanted to continue to sell loans.
3) Investors wanted more bond packages to buy and trade.
So, assessors came in and artificially inflated home prices, which made everyone happy - loans were refinanced, fees were collected, stock prices increased, until...
What went wrong?
Well, a great many ordinary Americans are locked into low-pay jobs with minimal health benefits - jobs where pay raises don't come anywhere near meeting the adjustable-rate increases.
Why is this? NAFTA and China's trade status have destroyed American blue-collar skilled manufacturing, which use to be a source of well-paid jobs. This is due to union-busting Republican administrations, the flow of jobs to Third World countries, and the downward wage pressure caused by immigrants willing to work for $10 an hour or less.
The only reason that the dollar is still the world's reserve currency is that the U.S. military plays a major role in protecting the world's oil fields and oil transport routes (pipelines and sea lanes).
The value of the dollar is falling steadily, however, and global investment money is flowing into, yes, oil - the most profitable and reliable sector of the dinosaur economy, which also includes weapons and pharmaceuticals.
To put it another way, the U.S. economy continues to slowly collapse under numerous burderns: subprime deregulation and resulting fraud, a war that costs more than Vietnam did, and decrepit infrastructure and manufacturing sectors, and a growing gap between rich and poor. The Bush Administration has failed in their "Great Game" for total control of Central Asian and Middle Eastern energy resources, and for control of energy transport routes into Europe. The era of the dominant petrodollar is rapidly coming to an end, as is the era of fossil fuels itself - which will certainly be over within 100 years, as we are at peak global oil production right now, and everyone can now see that global warming is well on its way.
Recent reports are that $3 trillion is the current Iraqi invasion bill. What if that sum had instead been invested in U.S. infrastructure (such as public rail transit systems and a more secure electricity grid)? A national health care system? A renewable energy program? What if the U.S. government gave every state a minimum of $20 billion and said: "Use this to jump start a renewable energy program"?
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Feb 27, 2008 4:23 PM
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Posted by: ReallyBearish on Feb 26, 2008 12:31 PM
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Of course, any idiot holding dollars or debt will be screwed, but hey, someone has to pay. The banks can buy derivatives to hedge the dollar and they won't get hurt.
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» The Best thing to hedge the dollar is gold but that fluctuates too. There is no real hedge.
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» RE:Germany
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Posted by: yellow on Feb 26, 2008 9:40 PM
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Posted by: mmckinl on Feb 26, 2008 6:17 PM
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The Banks are Already Bankrupt !
courtesy; automatic earth
The Banking system is now bankrupt :
"US banks have no reserves; they are for all intents and purposes, broke. In fact they are beyond broke and as I suggested last year banks are now sub-prime. 150% of the reserves at depository institutions are borrowed. That can only mean one thing, the banks have "lost" 1.5 times their original non borrowed reserves. Not only have they lost what they had, they went on and lost half as much again. If you or I did that, we would be bankrupted and probably arrested for attempting to defraud the lender.
Notice the amount of total reserves (yellow line) is roughly equal and appears cyclical to the Federal Reserve TAF lending program. The Fed is no longer the "lender of last resort" it has become the de-facto Bank of the USA."
Bank Reserves and Loans
The bailouts are already well under way on the taxpayers tab, unfortunately all this money has done little to stem the crisis. Bernanke and Paulson are beholden to their clients in the privately owned and operated "Federal Reserve Banking System' and will bankrupt the United States should they be allowed to continue defending these bankrupt institutions.
We need to fire the privately owned and operated Federal Reserve and install a Public Central Bank whose first duty is not to its' owners and members as is the case with the Federal Reserve , but to the public.
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» The FED is not at fault. They didn't make the bad loans nor did they deregulate commercial banking
Posted by: yellow
» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: yellow
» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: JSquercia
» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: yellow
» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: mmckinl
» You don't understand economics. Low interest rates will not help banks who favor high interest rates
Posted by: yellow
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ...
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ...
Posted by: yellow
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ... Negative Reserves !
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ... 10 x leverage !
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ... 10 x leverage !
Posted by: yellow
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ... 10 x leverage !
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ... 10 x leverage !
Posted by: yellow
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ... 10 x leverage !
Posted by: mmckinl
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ... 10 x leverage !
Posted by: JSquercia
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ...
Posted by: JSquercia
» RE: LOL ... Banks make their money on the spread ...
Posted by: yellow
» RE: The FED is not at fault........ Load of BS !!!!
Posted by: JSquercia
» Now you've got it. Deregulation is the key.
Posted by: yellow
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Feb 27, 2008 7:47 AM
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Adjustable-rate loans were predicted to be more valuable than flat-rate loans. Bond packages made up of numerous adjustable rate loans were viewed as more attractive by fund investors. As a result, mortgage brokers were paid more for selling adjustable-rate mortgages than for flat-rate mortgages.
Is that predatory lending? Comes pretty close, in any case.
So:
1) Brokers wanted to continue to earn commissions.
2) Homeowners wanted to refinance their loans every few years as their homes increased in vauebanks wanted to continue to sell loans.
3) Investors wanted more bond packages to buy and trade.
So, assessors came in and artificially inflated home prices, which made everyone happy - loans were refinanced, fees were collected, stock prices increased, until...
What went wrong?
Well, a great many ordinary Americans are locked into low-pay jobs with minimal health benefits - jobs where pay raises don't come anywhere near meeting the adjustable-rate increases.
Why is this? NAFTA and China's trade status have destroyed American blue-collar skilled manufacturing, which use to be a source of well-paid jobs. This is due to union-busting Republican administrations, the flow of jobs to Third World countries, and the downward wage pressure caused by immigrants willing to work for $10 an hour or less.
The only reason that the dollar is still the world's reserve currency is that the U.S. military plays a major role in protecting the world's oil fields and oil transport routes (pipelines and sea lanes).
The value of the dollar is falling steadily, however, and global investment money is flowing into, yes, oil - the most profitable and reliable sector of the dinosaur economy, which also includes weapons and pharmaceuticals.
To put it another way, the U.S. economy continues to slowly collapse under numerous burderns: subprime deregulation and resulting fraud, a war that costs more than Vietnam did, and decrepit infrastructure and manufacturing sectors, and a growing gap between rich and poor. The Bush Administration has failed in their "Great Game" for total control of Central Asian and Middle Eastern energy resources, and for control of energy transport routes into Europe. The era of the dominant petrodollar is rapidly coming to an end, as is the era of fossil fuels itself - which will certainly be over within 100 years, as we are at peak global oil production right now, and everyone can now see that global warming is well on its way.
Recent reports are that $3 trillion is the current Iraqi invasion bill. What if that sum had instead been invested in U.S. infrastructure (such as public rail transit systems and a more secure electricity grid)? A national health care system? A renewable energy program? What if the U.S. government gave every state a minimum of $20 billion and said: "Use this to jump start a renewable energy program"?
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Feb 27, 2008 4:23 PM
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