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Big Lies and Social Security: Peter Peterson's Retirement is Secure
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Fifteen years ago, Peter Peterson used some of the immense wealth he had accumulated as an investment banker to create and bankroll the Concord Coalition. The Concord Coalition was designed as a bipartisan organization promoting fiscal responsibility, with its primary targets being Social Security and Medicare. Peterson and his crew put out screeds, with titles like "Grey Dawn," that attacked these programs and warned that the growing wave of elderly would bankrupt the country.
Like most of the granny bashers, Peterson routinely played fast and loose with the facts. For example, while warning about the poverty facing future generations, he suggested cutting the annual Social Security cost of living adjustment because the official consumer price index (CPI), to which retirees benefits are indexed, overstates the true rate of inflation. However, if the CPI really overstates inflation, then incomes are rising much more rapidly than the official data show; and future generations will be far richer than we could possibly imagine. (If income rises by 4 percent and the inflation rate is 3 percent, then real income has risen by 1 percent. But if our measure of inflation is wrong, and the rate of inflation is just 2 percent, then real income has risen by 2 percent.)
Peterson also did his best to conceal the real source of projected budget problems: a broken US health care system. As Peter Orszag, the director of the Congressional Budget Office, has repeatedly noted, the projections for exploding deficits are driven by projections for exploding costs for government health care programs like Medicare and Medicaid. The costs of these programs are in turn driven by rising private sector costs.
If we fix our health care system and get costs under control, then the growing population of elderly will pose no greater burden in the future than in the past. (We have always had an aging population. We live longer than our parents' generation and our children's generation will live longer than our generation.) If we don't fix our health care system then it will inflict enormous damage on the economy, even if we eliminate Medicare, Medicaid, and other public health care programs altogether.
But Peterson's priority is not fixing health care, it is cutting Social Security and Medicare; and he is not a man to let facts or logic get in his way. He used his wealth to buy a substantial audience for his books and his views, most often in forums where they could not be challenged by real experts.
I recall hearing Mr. Peterson pontificate for an hour, completely unchallenged, on a major public radio talk show. At one point, he assured his audience, with reference to the solvency of Social Security, "trust me, there is no trust fund." Mr. Peterson repeated this lie verbatim, just in case the meaning escaped his audience.
Of course, there is a Social Security trust fund that holds more than $2 trillion in government bonds. Under the law, these bonds are to be repaid from general revenue, which comes almost entirely from the personal and corporate income tax. In other words, the bonds held by the Social Security trust fund, which are supposed to pay the Social Security benefits of retired workers, are effectively tax obligations for wealthy people like Mr. Peterson. If the bonds held by the Social Security trust fund are never repaid, Mr. Peterson and/or his heirs could save tens of millions of dollars from their future taxes. It shouldn't be surprising he is trying to convince the public that the trust fund doesn't really exist.
But, this is just one side of Peter Peterson. He was in the news last week for a totally different reason. It turns out, a loophole in the current tax code allows hedge fund and equity fund managers (like Mr. Peterson) to pay taxes on their compensation at a much lower rate than ordinary workers. While middle income workers like school teachers and firefighters typically face a 25 percent income tax rate, Peter Peterson and other fund managers get to pay the much lower 15 percent capital gains tax rate on the tens of millions they earn each year.
According to The Washington Post, Mr. Peterson was actively lobbying Congress to ensure he and his ilk are not taxed like ordinary workers. The Post reported that Mr. Peterson's efforts apparently paid off: He and his fellow fund managers will continue to enjoy special tax breaks. As Pete Peterson says, he doesn't need his Social Security.
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Posted by: yellow on Oct 16, 2007 10:35 AM
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What the conservatives don't like is Social Security's redistributive basis. True there is a very low rate of return for the upper middle class and the rich who pay in more. These people's salaries and business profits benefit from a large and growing pool of low wage workers. These people get no benefits or perks and their paltry wages are well below the poverty line if they are raising children. This is a horrible. The working poor, a growing proportion of the US work force, deserve a break at retirement. They don't have the money to invest in Wall Street funds to get any kind of rate of return when they retire. Let the system tax the rich and give the proceeds to those who have supported the American system all their lives with no real remuneration for it.
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Posted by: Susan Kipping on Oct 16, 2007 12:54 PM
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I look forward to the day I can receive my Social Security. I, unlike Mr. Peterson, will need the income. The elite are constantly getting tax cuts, where I do not. The elite seem to spend our tax money on their pet projects (such as illegal wars) which I do not condone. Since the 16th amendment was never signed by Congress, there is no law stating that we must pay federal tax.
The Federal Reserve is made up of private banks controlling the nations money. So, Mr. Peterson has a great deal of power and money to do whatever he likes. But Mr. Peterson, leave my social security alone.
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Posted by: jlohman on Oct 16, 2007 12:57 PM
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Posted by: Susan Kipping on Oct 16, 2007 12:57 PM
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Posted by: reason on Oct 17, 2007 9:12 AM
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No one supports anyone else. Social Security works much like life insurance. Even though the money you are paying in for life insurance sometimes goes to the family of someone who died, you are not paying their life insurance benefit. You are paying your own. It will be there when you need it, whether it is tomorrow or 30 years from now.
The republicans are still plotting against Social Security. What they want is for us to depend on Wall Street for our retirements, while they have a TSP plan which is much like our 401k plus a lush retirement paid for by we, the taxpayer.
I don't want to pay for the retirement of every elected and appointed government official, every federal judge, every CIA agent, all Military pensions etc. and not have Social Security. I can't think of anything any more unfair.
When you hear about the looming retirement debt, remember Social Security has a surplus. It is not in debt.
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Posted by: metryjen on Oct 18, 2007 10:58 AM
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Posted by: kenger on Oct 18, 2007 11:38 AM
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I hate to disillusion you, but the SS surpluses have already been spent on other programs. The Trust Fund is empty, and it will have to be collected all over again in the future. As long as our children and grandchildren don't catch on to how today's generation has very cleverly used the SS Trust Fund surpluses for its own benefit, and left tomorrow's generation a multi-trillion dollar due bill (to repay the SS surpluses that have been spent), tomorrow's seniors should have little problem eating its cake and having it too.
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Posted by: carolcarre on Oct 18, 2007 12:07 PM
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Posted by: yellow on Oct 19, 2007 8:27 AM
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Posted by: yellow on Oct 16, 2007 10:35 AM
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What the conservatives don't like is Social Security's redistributive basis. True there is a very low rate of return for the upper middle class and the rich who pay in more. These people's salaries and business profits benefit from a large and growing pool of low wage workers. These people get no benefits or perks and their paltry wages are well below the poverty line if they are raising children. This is a horrible. The working poor, a growing proportion of the US work force, deserve a break at retirement. They don't have the money to invest in Wall Street funds to get any kind of rate of return when they retire. Let the system tax the rich and give the proceeds to those who have supported the American system all their lives with no real remuneration for it.
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Posted by: Susan Kipping on Oct 16, 2007 12:54 PM
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I look forward to the day I can receive my Social Security. I, unlike Mr. Peterson, will need the income. The elite are constantly getting tax cuts, where I do not. The elite seem to spend our tax money on their pet projects (such as illegal wars) which I do not condone. Since the 16th amendment was never signed by Congress, there is no law stating that we must pay federal tax.
The Federal Reserve is made up of private banks controlling the nations money. So, Mr. Peterson has a great deal of power and money to do whatever he likes. But Mr. Peterson, leave my social security alone.
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Posted by: jlohman on Oct 16, 2007 12:57 PM
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Posted by: Susan Kipping on Oct 16, 2007 12:57 PM
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Posted by: reason on Oct 17, 2007 9:12 AM
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No one supports anyone else. Social Security works much like life insurance. Even though the money you are paying in for life insurance sometimes goes to the family of someone who died, you are not paying their life insurance benefit. You are paying your own. It will be there when you need it, whether it is tomorrow or 30 years from now.
The republicans are still plotting against Social Security. What they want is for us to depend on Wall Street for our retirements, while they have a TSP plan which is much like our 401k plus a lush retirement paid for by we, the taxpayer.
I don't want to pay for the retirement of every elected and appointed government official, every federal judge, every CIA agent, all Military pensions etc. and not have Social Security. I can't think of anything any more unfair.
When you hear about the looming retirement debt, remember Social Security has a surplus. It is not in debt.
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» RE: Social Security works like insurance
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Posted by: metryjen on Oct 18, 2007 10:58 AM
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Posted by: kenger on Oct 18, 2007 11:38 AM
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I hate to disillusion you, but the SS surpluses have already been spent on other programs. The Trust Fund is empty, and it will have to be collected all over again in the future. As long as our children and grandchildren don't catch on to how today's generation has very cleverly used the SS Trust Fund surpluses for its own benefit, and left tomorrow's generation a multi-trillion dollar due bill (to repay the SS surpluses that have been spent), tomorrow's seniors should have little problem eating its cake and having it too.
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» RE: The Trust Fund is empty
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Posted by: carolcarre on Oct 18, 2007 12:07 PM
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