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Get Promoted with a YES! Attitude? Yuck.
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The purveyor of this new over-the-top, fan-like, enthusiasm is Jeffrey Gitomer, in his brand new Little Gold Book of YES! Attitude. What attracted me to the display in the bookstore was the odd packaging: a hardcover, but smaller than the average paperback, with a bright red ribbon for a page-marker (a biblical touch, someone in the publishing industry explained to me.) Most of the pages contain fewer than 200 words, but don't try filling in the margins with notes: The pages are too slick and shiny for your average pen, so if you want to make notes, get your own damn paper.
How do you achieve a state of transcendent YES!-like excitement about your job? Brainwashing is recommended. Gitomer himself read Napoleon Hill's 1937 classic of delusional thinking -- Think and Grow Rich -- over 100 times in one year and watched the same motivational video five days a week plus weekends. While reading the gurus and reciting the prescribed self-affirmations, it helps to cut off contact with the outer world. In particular, Gitomer says, don't watch the news. It's all "negative" anyway.
Of course you'll have to purge your environment of "negative" people too, as all the motivational gurus advise. Gitomer tells us he walks away from their "pity parties" to "focus on me." "Let nothing or no one get in your way."
Now, with Darfur, global warming, Iraq and any recently bereaved or otherwise afflicted co-workers out of the way, you can "SMILE ALL THE TIME." "A simple smile," Gitomer tells us, "is a powerful atti-tool." Smiles "show your internal feelings, externally." And if you don't actually feel smiley internally, just fake it till you make it.
Nobody said it would be easy. In fact, the YES! Attitude takes constant maintenance, and one of the illustrations shows Gitomer wearing a blue work shirt with the label "Positive Attitude Maintenance Department" on his chest. Read something "positive" every day, say "positive things all day long." Practice being "selfish on the inside" while exuding helpfulness on the outside.
Don't be distracted by the crude selfishness. What Gitomer and countless other motivational gurus are recommending is the mentality of a crafty slave: "Oh master, I am SO glad you transferred me to the Dayton accounts (even though they've been inactive for 18 months), and, while I'm at it, would you like me to polish your shoes with my neck tie?" Smiles, at least in human society, are gestures of submission, and routinely demanded of women as a token of subordinate status. The happy slave smiles; the well-trained "lady" smiles; now even the male white collar striver has to keep his lips pulled back in an expression of eager compliance. Only the top guys get to snarl and snap their way through the day.
Here's another idea, one that's every bit as "positive" as the gurus advise: Call it Constructive Complaining. Don't avoid "negative" people -- seek them out and talk about what needs to be changed. Remember the movie "Nine to Five," where the much-put-upon characters played by Jane Fonda, Lily Tomlin and Dolly Parton finally get together to share their woes and plan the overthrow of an abusive boss? Take your grievances seriously and turn that "pity party" into a revolutionary strategy meeting.
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Posted by: ahmlco on Feb 10, 2007 12:34 AM
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Instead of talking about who is to blame, or what everyone else should be doing, or how management or sales or support needs to change, perhaps one should ask, "What can I do to improve the situation?"
The only actions you have 100% control over are your own. How can you solve the problem? What can you do, right now, to fix it?
As to the rest, most of these books aren't telling you to be a happy little slave. What they are saying is that, ultimately, your job and your career and perhaps even your business or company depend on your actions. If you have an "attitude" or are surly or constantly negative then it's going to have an impact on all of them.
Do YOU like being around such people? Do you patronize establishments where the employees are rude? Have you even left a place thinking, "With people like that they're not going to be in business long."
Are you that employee?
Again, it's not about being a slave. It is, however, about recognizing that you are being paid for your time and your work and that you're continually being judged on your performance... and your attitude.
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Posted by: citizen chump on Feb 10, 2007 1:58 AM
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and dead on. Meanwhile, a typical day at the office:
From a drama in progress entitled: They Sell their
Soul for so Little and Crave the Taste of the Boot.
Boss: SMITH!
Smith: Yes, Mr. Boss
B: Any customer who complains about the last shipment
of defective thinking - well, you know what to do....
S: Forward their name to the blame the unAmerican
thinking list?
B: (Smiling) Smith, my boy, with out you we would have
never won the prestigious Willy Loman award last
year. I'm sending you and your family to Disney
World --- and make sure those documents relat-
ing to that "other matter" are shredded.
S: (Beaming with the happiness of a Gestapo thug)
Right, boss. Right after I call the wife with the
good news! Oh boy, a week at Disney World.
I can't wait to abuse the staff.
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Posted by: anothername on Feb 10, 2007 3:13 AM
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This is similar to many, many people I encounter who care only about their own inner peace and spend hours upon hours talking about finding their right path, which somehow will magically solve all the world's problems. (Apparently these people do not understand addiction and that some people will always find their peace and joy by seeking to control money and people.)
To the person who wants to know what an employee can do ... try being a whistleblower. It will wreck havoc on your personal income and you will need to find some other reference or explanation for leaving the job, but individual employees have a whole lot more power than they think; it is only a matter of what they are willing to give up to exercise that power.
The greater problem with the smile campaign is that our economy is reducing job options. I have encountered many wait staff and retail store personnel who have no business being in those positions. Indeed, I won't apply for such jobs because I know my personality is not the type that I would want to encounter as a customer in a retail store. It limits my job options, but I am happier, as are the people who visit the store or restaurant.
The type of people who hunt for solutions such as forced smiles to solve corporate problems is too big a problem to discuss in this limited venue. However, it is worth noting that a large number of new business owners I meet only want to hear the success stories of other people. They believe that there is, again, a magical solution to low income. Alas, these same people refuse to look at politics or economics, thus they are missing the reality that potential customers simply do not have any money. No matter how many positive stories these new owners hear, the best run, most innovative business still needs customers with money to spend. No amount of forced smiling can pull oil out of a well that has been pumped dry of every drop of fuel.
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Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line on Feb 10, 2007 5:36 AM
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Feb 10, 2007 8:54 AM
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The slick pages are deliberate, too; they're waterproof, so that they won't absorb the tears readers are going to shed when they realize that either they cannot live up to Mr. Gitomer's faux ideals, or that they have been duped once again by a phony "guru" snake oil salesman whose pronouncements are anti-human bulls**t.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Feb 10, 2007 9:17 AM
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This delusion has resulted in a smirking (almost a smile...), false-faced boob leading us to disaster as president, a war whose true dimensions of bloodshed, waste and brutality have been covered up for more than three years, and a mainstream media that has given up on reporting the truth for the sake of pop-culture storytelling.
And now, according to Mr. Gitomer, the same delusional, non-reality-based mindset is the way to conduct business and industry, as well. If his ideas take hold (more than they already have), stand by for the invention and manufacturing prowess of our country to tank – even worse than it already has. Mr. Gitomer doesn't understand (or, it doesn't sell books) that an economy and society aren't built on smiley-face vaporware; they are built by real people working together with real ability to solve real problems and make real progress – with GENUINE joy in the accomplishment.
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 10, 2007 9:20 AM
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I didn't need cheerleading . People work for money and whatever personal satisfaction they get from it. Personal performance on the job is directly connected to salary and a feeling of being appreciated. Thanks, ANNA
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Posted by: WyrdSister on Feb 10, 2007 9:21 AM
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At Carlson Marketing Group my first year, Mr Kurt Carlson himself toured each of his buildings, handing out his candy canes and a copy of his book; still in the cardboard shipping box. There was such a buzz when he came walking through, shaking employees hands and greeting them with "...and what do YOU do for me?" For someone who had just started working at this company, I thought that this was ridiculous and was actually embarrassed for those falling all over themselves to shake this man's hand.
Christmas-time was my biggest point of contention with the company because of the pretentousness openly displayed. During the holiday season Carlson Marketing would have the "12 Working Days of Christmas" where each day you received a small gift at the door pretaining to that years "theme". One year the theme was "angels" and at the door I received: angel hair pasta, an angel tree ornament and an angelfood cake. Then, at the end of each week, there would be a drawing for a larger prize, the largest being two airplane tickets; which suprisingly enough only those from the Travel Department won.
For the 4 years that I worked for this company, I voiced my opinion that all of this was bullshit and I would much more appreciate something I could USE; like a gift certificate to Cub Foods or even just a turkey, so that I could feed my family. The way they over-did this season was so insulting to a single mother trying to keep a roof over her child's head and food in the refrigerator. I cannot tell you how many times I had to go to the food shelf during that time of the year, even with a "good job" with a "good company".
Because I continued my crusade for fair practice at Carlson Marketing, I was told, to my face by the head of HR, that I "did not fit" this company. I agreed; I refused to be brainwashed into a Corporate Cheerleader. Then, I started to get in trouble for things that I was asked to do by my boss. That's when I realized that they were trying to get me to quit. I abliged. I gave a three-week notice. They paid me out that day and escorted me to my car.
I do not believe in being a Corporate Cheerleader. My job was not my life and I refused to be brainwashed into thinking that it was.
I have since found my dream job. I get paid less but I love it and would not have it any other way. I now work with at-risk youth and have a purpose. I don't have to be a cheerleader for a large, rich company, but rather a cheerleader for young lives that need an adult who is consistant and caring. An adult to give them a deserving hug and tell them that they are worth all the effort and love that I have to give.
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Posted by: karma_ran_over_dogma on Feb 10, 2007 10:12 AM
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Meanwhile, see "The Office" on Thursday nights.
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Feb 10, 2007 11:29 AM
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But as far as this goes in the current miserable state of the American work environment--well, its just another way to cover up the way the whole house of cards that is American business is about to collapse. Too bad that jerks like this author can make money off of it.
Thanks Alternet,, and thank you Barbara!!! Once again you really get to the bottom of the issue so wonderfully!
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Posted by: Red Clover on Feb 10, 2007 12:19 PM
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-Belief in your company
-Belief in your products
-Belief in your service
-Belief in yourself
-Belief that when a customer buys [from you], they are better off
are necessary if valuable new accounts are to be opened and loyal new customers created. I know, having been a commissioned salesperson for years.
That being said, most employees are not salespeople (even in retail, even at the check-out counter). Most employees are makers, deliverers, administrators, and other support for a system built up around fulfilling the sale. They are problem-solvers, because all customers are different. And problem-solvers live with problems-the way things are, not belief in the way things should be. Who can fault them for a little nausea at the tune of "Don't Worry, Be Happy?"
Executives of companies in crisis love the Gitomers of the world. By spreading the gospel of a joyous attitude toward work, they don't have to deal with the gritty details of problem-solving at the support level. Lip service is given to the power of individual support people to make a vital difference in how the company is operated, but anyone who has made a concerted effort to live up to this pablum knows that company leaders only endorse such when they don't have to change what THEY are doing.
I notice the same among Texas evangelicals. They are going to heaven, so do not need to pay too much attention to their personal behavior, only the un-Godly behavior of others. They gather among themselves several times each week to give thanks and pray for the unsaved. All with a plastic smile and unnatural light in their eyes.
Magical thinking is endemic in our society. Perhaps it results from America's shift from a farming and manufacturing economy to a marketing and service economy. The hand applied to the thing is replaced by Words applied to an end.
I have met a few wise and competent executives in my career. I have also met many who, though equally powerful, simply game their position for security and properity. They often dominate companies I have worked for and sold to. And they form the customer base for the Gitomers of the world who chase away the shadows of that nagging beast, the Peter Principle, who whispers, "you have risen to your level of incompetence."
Just don't rock the boat and no one will notice that we are all standing hip deep in the rising water.
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Posted by: Sunfell on Feb 10, 2007 12:45 PM
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Thank god. I had to work in a retail environment for five years where I swear that we were the guniea pigs for every social experiment and motivational hokum to come along. I was glad to escape from that.
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Memo from the government to the common citizen: You're just a Joe Schmoo nobody...We'll con both Left and Right activist in every election cycle to make you think you have a voice: We'll give you pro-lifers Terri Schaivo...but we'll keep the legal abortion machine humming along...We'll give you Lefties a dollar or so minimum wage increase (after ten years) and we'll drop student loan interests rates a few points...but that's it suckers. We are the plutocratic elite and you are nothing...deal with it and change the way you feel about it...Have a nice day.
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Posted by: CriminallySane on Feb 10, 2007 2:14 PM
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The basic premise of every motivational book, speaker, etc., is this: Be more like me!
Note also that most of these "motivators" receive far more from their book sales than they ever did in the real world.
And still, front-line employees everywhere will treat the customers pretty much as well as they themselves are treated. That makes it very easy to spot the better outfits - the ones that treat people reasonably well. (If most work was that great, they wouldn't have to pay you to do it!)
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My favorite story happened after I left Pitney Bowes Management Services, mail/copy rooms in law firms, for a better paying job with a non-profit. We were supposed to have weekly meetings (our boss was pretty cool) and keep notes. Well when one of the managers who oversees multiple sites was trying to get a new client, that manager touted these weekly meetings as a way for workplace cohesion or some other bullsh@t. Well, our boss had let the often disgruntled staff at this law firm write out the log and it was primarily a bitch session because it was the worst of 5 sites I had worked at because of some of the firm staff. Anyway the manager never had read the log and wasn't happy with the bitch session contained within. I am not sure if they ever got that client.
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Posted by: blitzmesser on Feb 10, 2007 4:27 PM
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I can't stand this assault of fake friendliness.
It is fake, because employees are monitored everywhere in the particular store. It has no bearing on customer need or real friendliness on the part of the employee. It is intended to solicit purchases and that the customer return, no other reason. stujpid lmanager don't realize when it has the effect of keeping customers away. The "friendly" friendliness is performed by robots, trained to say things that make no sense most of the time.
When I ask them : why are you telling me this? They tell me that they have to! Management says so.
I stay away from stores that use that kind of training for employees, who no longer are allowed to use their own initiative, and have to act like idiots.
Most people like to do a good job if they are treated right, even if the work is not very interesting.
There is an article on my page to the left about
"Why does corporate America want to test children into thinking, sounding, and acting the same way?"
Answer: So they can become ideal employees, who will do as they are told.
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I dont have problem with the YES mentality, nor with sad people, you're the one you're torturing really.
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....what is so offensive about this "positivist" literature is that it posits pretension and ignorance as a cure to social ills...goddmanit, how can you advocate a social program whereby its acceptable that only a few happy (and objectively ruthless) people get aboard the liferafts and everyone else can happily fester away in misery...at the end of the its a competition and only a few can win....its just so sick and twisted....morally base....corrupt...inhuman...defenders of this non-sense should feel so much shame
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If The Hash-Slinging Slasher had really come to "wreak his horrible vengeance" upon both employees of the Krusty Krab, who would have lived a happier (and dare I say better) life?
I saw this scene from Squid on Strike just last night and laughed my ass off.
Squidward: OK, pay careful attention, SpongeBob. Now we're gonna make picket signs. This is a very important part of striking.
SpongeBob: Like this, Squidward? (Shows a picket fence on a board.)
Squidward: Not a picket fence, you ding-dong! Picket sign!
SpongeBob: How's this? (Shows a sign with an image of a finger picking a nose.)
Squidward: No. This is a picket sign. (Points) 'Krusty Krab Unfair'. Short, sweet, and to the point.
SpongeBob: How's this, Squidward? (Shows a 'Krusty Krab Funfair'` sign)
Squidward: SpongeBob! It's unfair, not funfair!
Citizen: A funfair? Where? I could go for some fun!
SpongeBob: At the Krusty Krab!
Citizen: Hey, everybody, let's go to the funfair! (Everybody steps on Squidward)
Squidward: Nobody gives a care about the fate of labor as long as they can get their instant gratification.
Like Squidward, I work for a living and work for an employer, whose investment of capital in medical technology increases my productivity immensely. Those alternet posters who whine about "the idle rich" can go off to the woods and work with their own pair of dirty hands if they truly think "the rich" or entrepreneurs in general do not contribute to increased productivity. I don't know about you, but I would not be able to build an Xray machine or an ultrasound unit with my own bare hands.
And as for "instant gratification", the majority of human Squidwards in the US have had plenty of that in their youth, by "avoiding the hard years of serious study" and pissing away their opportunities to better themselves, in favor of short-sighted pleasures. As shitty as I find the US gov't's foreign policies, the federal gov't does provide copious educational loans. (Paid for by my taxes, so I don't apologize for taking my share.) Even elite universities (like my alma mater Cornell) provide generous aid to those who have worked hard and earned it by paying their dues in the library and on the athletic field. As opposed to partying and passing out drunk on the couch, or bullying smarter students for exam answers.
It's late and I need to get to sleep. I think I'll wear my Spongebob surgical scrub top to my job that I love tomorrow, while thinking of the whiners and Squidwards of the world, who can kiss my ass while regretting their youthful myopia.
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He´s also an invertebrate. Figures...
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For years I've been trying to put my finger on the visceral revulsion I experience whenever confronted with corporate 'Mer'kaan cult-ure and Barbara nails it here. It's S-L-A-V-E-R-Y!
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Oh joy, aren't they just winderful. One woman said on national tv, Mr Booosh is my hero he is doing the right thing and he knows the right thing bikaus he is a God fearin' man and he is from Texas.
They can't talk correctly in Texass, but by gum they shore do know thier bybal and their do's and dont's, yessir.
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Instead of talking about who is to blame, or what everyone else should be doing, or how management or sales or support needs to change, perhaps one should ask, "What can I do to improve the situation?"
The only actions you have 100% control over are your own. How can you solve the problem? What can you do, right now, to fix it?
As to the rest, most of these books aren't telling you to be a happy little slave. What they are saying is that, ultimately, your job and your career and perhaps even your business or company depend on your actions. If you have an "attitude" or are surly or constantly negative then it's going to have an impact on all of them.
Do YOU like being around such people? Do you patronize establishments where the employees are rude? Have you even left a place thinking, "With people like that they're not going to be in business long."
Are you that employee?
Again, it's not about being a slave. It is, however, about recognizing that you are being paid for your time and your work and that you're continually being judged on your performance... and your attitude.
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and dead on. Meanwhile, a typical day at the office:
From a drama in progress entitled: They Sell their
Soul for so Little and Crave the Taste of the Boot.
Boss: SMITH!
Smith: Yes, Mr. Boss
B: Any customer who complains about the last shipment
of defective thinking - well, you know what to do....
S: Forward their name to the blame the unAmerican
thinking list?
B: (Smiling) Smith, my boy, with out you we would have
never won the prestigious Willy Loman award last
year. I'm sending you and your family to Disney
World --- and make sure those documents relat-
ing to that "other matter" are shredded.
S: (Beaming with the happiness of a Gestapo thug)
Right, boss. Right after I call the wife with the
good news! Oh boy, a week at Disney World.
I can't wait to abuse the staff.
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This is similar to many, many people I encounter who care only about their own inner peace and spend hours upon hours talking about finding their right path, which somehow will magically solve all the world's problems. (Apparently these people do not understand addiction and that some people will always find their peace and joy by seeking to control money and people.)
To the person who wants to know what an employee can do ... try being a whistleblower. It will wreck havoc on your personal income and you will need to find some other reference or explanation for leaving the job, but individual employees have a whole lot more power than they think; it is only a matter of what they are willing to give up to exercise that power.
The greater problem with the smile campaign is that our economy is reducing job options. I have encountered many wait staff and retail store personnel who have no business being in those positions. Indeed, I won't apply for such jobs because I know my personality is not the type that I would want to encounter as a customer in a retail store. It limits my job options, but I am happier, as are the people who visit the store or restaurant.
The type of people who hunt for solutions such as forced smiles to solve corporate problems is too big a problem to discuss in this limited venue. However, it is worth noting that a large number of new business owners I meet only want to hear the success stories of other people. They believe that there is, again, a magical solution to low income. Alas, these same people refuse to look at politics or economics, thus they are missing the reality that potential customers simply do not have any money. No matter how many positive stories these new owners hear, the best run, most innovative business still needs customers with money to spend. No amount of forced smiling can pull oil out of a well that has been pumped dry of every drop of fuel.
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The slick pages are deliberate, too; they're waterproof, so that they won't absorb the tears readers are going to shed when they realize that either they cannot live up to Mr. Gitomer's faux ideals, or that they have been duped once again by a phony "guru" snake oil salesman whose pronouncements are anti-human bulls**t.
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This delusion has resulted in a smirking (almost a smile...), false-faced boob leading us to disaster as president, a war whose true dimensions of bloodshed, waste and brutality have been covered up for more than three years, and a mainstream media that has given up on reporting the truth for the sake of pop-culture storytelling.
And now, according to Mr. Gitomer, the same delusional, non-reality-based mindset is the way to conduct business and industry, as well. If his ideas take hold (more than they already have), stand by for the invention and manufacturing prowess of our country to tank – even worse than it already has. Mr. Gitomer doesn't understand (or, it doesn't sell books) that an economy and society aren't built on smiley-face vaporware; they are built by real people working together with real ability to solve real problems and make real progress – with GENUINE joy in the accomplishment.
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I didn't need cheerleading . People work for money and whatever personal satisfaction they get from it. Personal performance on the job is directly connected to salary and a feeling of being appreciated. Thanks, ANNA
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At Carlson Marketing Group my first year, Mr Kurt Carlson himself toured each of his buildings, handing out his candy canes and a copy of his book; still in the cardboard shipping box. There was such a buzz when he came walking through, shaking employees hands and greeting them with "...and what do YOU do for me?" For someone who had just started working at this company, I thought that this was ridiculous and was actually embarrassed for those falling all over themselves to shake this man's hand.
Christmas-time was my biggest point of contention with the company because of the pretentousness openly displayed. During the holiday season Carlson Marketing would have the "12 Working Days of Christmas" where each day you received a small gift at the door pretaining to that years "theme". One year the theme was "angels" and at the door I received: angel hair pasta, an angel tree ornament and an angelfood cake. Then, at the end of each week, there would be a drawing for a larger prize, the largest being two airplane tickets; which suprisingly enough only those from the Travel Department won.
For the 4 years that I worked for this company, I voiced my opinion that all of this was bullshit and I would much more appreciate something I could USE; like a gift certificate to Cub Foods or even just a turkey, so that I could feed my family. The way they over-did this season was so insulting to a single mother trying to keep a roof over her child's head and food in the refrigerator. I cannot tell you how many times I had to go to the food shelf during that time of the year, even with a "good job" with a "good company".
Because I continued my crusade for fair practice at Carlson Marketing, I was told, to my face by the head of HR, that I "did not fit" this company. I agreed; I refused to be brainwashed into a Corporate Cheerleader. Then, I started to get in trouble for things that I was asked to do by my boss. That's when I realized that they were trying to get me to quit. I abliged. I gave a three-week notice. They paid me out that day and escorted me to my car.
I do not believe in being a Corporate Cheerleader. My job was not my life and I refused to be brainwashed into thinking that it was.
I have since found my dream job. I get paid less but I love it and would not have it any other way. I now work with at-risk youth and have a purpose. I don't have to be a cheerleader for a large, rich company, but rather a cheerleader for young lives that need an adult who is consistant and caring. An adult to give them a deserving hug and tell them that they are worth all the effort and love that I have to give.
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Meanwhile, see "The Office" on Thursday nights.
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But as far as this goes in the current miserable state of the American work environment--well, its just another way to cover up the way the whole house of cards that is American business is about to collapse. Too bad that jerks like this author can make money off of it.
Thanks Alternet,, and thank you Barbara!!! Once again you really get to the bottom of the issue so wonderfully!
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-Belief in your company
-Belief in your products
-Belief in your service
-Belief in yourself
-Belief that when a customer buys [from you], they are better off
are necessary if valuable new accounts are to be opened and loyal new customers created. I know, having been a commissioned salesperson for years.
That being said, most employees are not salespeople (even in retail, even at the check-out counter). Most employees are makers, deliverers, administrators, and other support for a system built up around fulfilling the sale. They are problem-solvers, because all customers are different. And problem-solvers live with problems-the way things are, not belief in the way things should be. Who can fault them for a little nausea at the tune of "Don't Worry, Be Happy?"
Executives of companies in crisis love the Gitomers of the world. By spreading the gospel of a joyous attitude toward work, they don't have to deal with the gritty details of problem-solving at the support level. Lip service is given to the power of individual support people to make a vital difference in how the company is operated, but anyone who has made a concerted effort to live up to this pablum knows that company leaders only endorse such when they don't have to change what THEY are doing.
I notice the same among Texas evangelicals. They are going to heaven, so do not need to pay too much attention to their personal behavior, only the un-Godly behavior of others. They gather among themselves several times each week to give thanks and pray for the unsaved. All with a plastic smile and unnatural light in their eyes.
Magical thinking is endemic in our society. Perhaps it results from America's shift from a farming and manufacturing economy to a marketing and service economy. The hand applied to the thing is replaced by Words applied to an end.
I have met a few wise and competent executives in my career. I have also met many who, though equally powerful, simply game their position for security and properity. They often dominate companies I have worked for and sold to. And they form the customer base for the Gitomers of the world who chase away the shadows of that nagging beast, the Peter Principle, who whispers, "you have risen to your level of incompetence."
Just don't rock the boat and no one will notice that we are all standing hip deep in the rising water.
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Thank god. I had to work in a retail environment for five years where I swear that we were the guniea pigs for every social experiment and motivational hokum to come along. I was glad to escape from that.
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Memo from the government to the common citizen: You're just a Joe Schmoo nobody...We'll con both Left and Right activist in every election cycle to make you think you have a voice: We'll give you pro-lifers Terri Schaivo...but we'll keep the legal abortion machine humming along...We'll give you Lefties a dollar or so minimum wage increase (after ten years) and we'll drop student loan interests rates a few points...but that's it suckers. We are the plutocratic elite and you are nothing...deal with it and change the way you feel about it...Have a nice day.
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The basic premise of every motivational book, speaker, etc., is this: Be more like me!
Note also that most of these "motivators" receive far more from their book sales than they ever did in the real world.
And still, front-line employees everywhere will treat the customers pretty much as well as they themselves are treated. That makes it very easy to spot the better outfits - the ones that treat people reasonably well. (If most work was that great, they wouldn't have to pay you to do it!)
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My favorite story happened after I left Pitney Bowes Management Services, mail/copy rooms in law firms, for a better paying job with a non-profit. We were supposed to have weekly meetings (our boss was pretty cool) and keep notes. Well when one of the managers who oversees multiple sites was trying to get a new client, that manager touted these weekly meetings as a way for workplace cohesion or some other bullsh@t. Well, our boss had let the often disgruntled staff at this law firm write out the log and it was primarily a bitch session because it was the worst of 5 sites I had worked at because of some of the firm staff. Anyway the manager never had read the log and wasn't happy with the bitch session contained within. I am not sure if they ever got that client.
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I can't stand this assault of fake friendliness.
It is fake, because employees are monitored everywhere in the particular store. It has no bearing on customer need or real friendliness on the part of the employee. It is intended to solicit purchases and that the customer return, no other reason. stujpid lmanager don't realize when it has the effect of keeping customers away. The "friendly" friendliness is performed by robots, trained to say things that make no sense most of the time.
When I ask them : why are you telling me this? They tell me that they have to! Management says so.
I stay away from stores that use that kind of training for employees, who no longer are allowed to use their own initiative, and have to act like idiots.
Most people like to do a good job if they are treated right, even if the work is not very interesting.
There is an article on my page to the left about
"Why does corporate America want to test children into thinking, sounding, and acting the same way?"
Answer: So they can become ideal employees, who will do as they are told.
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I dont have problem with the YES mentality, nor with sad people, you're the one you're torturing really.
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....what is so offensive about this "positivist" literature is that it posits pretension and ignorance as a cure to social ills...goddmanit, how can you advocate a social program whereby its acceptable that only a few happy (and objectively ruthless) people get aboard the liferafts and everyone else can happily fester away in misery...at the end of the its a competition and only a few can win....its just so sick and twisted....morally base....corrupt...inhuman...defenders of this non-sense should feel so much shame
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If The Hash-Slinging Slasher had really come to "wreak his horrible vengeance" upon both employees of the Krusty Krab, who would have lived a happier (and dare I say better) life?
I saw this scene from Squid on Strike just last night and laughed my ass off.
Squidward: OK, pay careful attention, SpongeBob. Now we're gonna make picket signs. This is a very important part of striking.
SpongeBob: Like this, Squidward? (Shows a picket fence on a board.)
Squidward: Not a picket fence, you ding-dong! Picket sign!
SpongeBob: How's this? (Shows a sign with an image of a finger picking a nose.)
Squidward: No. This is a picket sign. (Points) 'Krusty Krab Unfair'. Short, sweet, and to the point.
SpongeBob: How's this, Squidward? (Shows a 'Krusty Krab Funfair'` sign)
Squidward: SpongeBob! It's unfair, not funfair!
Citizen: A funfair? Where? I could go for some fun!
SpongeBob: At the Krusty Krab!
Citizen: Hey, everybody, let's go to the funfair! (Everybody steps on Squidward)
Squidward: Nobody gives a care about the fate of labor as long as they can get their instant gratification.
Like Squidward, I work for a living and work for an employer, whose investment of capital in medical technology increases my productivity immensely. Those alternet posters who whine about "the idle rich" can go off to the woods and work with their own pair of dirty hands if they truly think "the rich" or entrepreneurs in general do not contribute to increased productivity. I don't know about you, but I would not be able to build an Xray machine or an ultrasound unit with my own bare hands.
And as for "instant gratification", the majority of human Squidwards in the US have had plenty of that in their youth, by "avoiding the hard years of serious study" and pissing away their opportunities to better themselves, in favor of short-sighted pleasures. As shitty as I find the US gov't's foreign policies, the federal gov't does provide copious educational loans. (Paid for by my taxes, so I don't apologize for taking my share.) Even elite universities (like my alma mater Cornell) provide generous aid to those who have worked hard and earned it by paying their dues in the library and on the athletic field. As opposed to partying and passing out drunk on the couch, or bullying smarter students for exam answers.
It's late and I need to get to sleep. I think I'll wear my Spongebob surgical scrub top to my job that I love tomorrow, while thinking of the whiners and Squidwards of the world, who can kiss my ass while regretting their youthful myopia.
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He´s also an invertebrate. Figures...
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For years I've been trying to put my finger on the visceral revulsion I experience whenever confronted with corporate 'Mer'kaan cult-ure and Barbara nails it here. It's S-L-A-V-E-R-Y!
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Oh joy, aren't they just winderful. One woman said on national tv, Mr Booosh is my hero he is doing the right thing and he knows the right thing bikaus he is a God fearin' man and he is from Texas.
They can't talk correctly in Texass, but by gum they shore do know thier bybal and their do's and dont's, yessir.
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