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The 100 Worst Corporate Citizens
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The Business Ethics list, the 2006 version of which appeared recently, has become a leading scorecard in the field of corporate social responsibility, or CSR (increasingly used as an abbreviation for corporate sustainability and responsibility). CSR has evolved from a rallying cry of business critics to a fashionable concern among corporate executives eager to demonstrate that high-mindedness can co-exist with the pursuit of profit. Many of the companies cited by Business Ethics consider it a badge of honor, putting out press releases touting this accomplishment.
Yet when one looks at the companies on the Business Ethics list, it is easy to be baffled at the real meaning of CSR. Some of the firms may have done laudable things, but the list is riddled with companies that have significant blemishes on their record when it comes to environmental matters, labor practices or treatment of customers. The likes of Wal-Mart and Big Oil have not yet made the cut, but that may be only a matter of time.
Not so clean
Business Ethics compiles its list using data on corporate social performance in eight categories -- community, diversity, employee relations, environment, etc. -- from the Socrates database produced by KLD Research & Analytics. That information is then processed quantitatively using methodology developed by Sandra Waddock and Samuel Graves of the Carroll School of Management at Boston College. Unfortunately, the magazine says nothing about that methodology, so the reader is confronted with a statistical black box. An article accompanying the list provides scanty details. Thus, one must essentially take the rankings at face value.
The first thing that stands out is that the list is top heavy with high-tech firms, including Hewlett-Packard (No. 2), Advanced Micro Devices (No. 3), Motorola (No. 4), Cisco Systems (No. 8), Dell Inc. (No. 9), Texas Instruments (No. 10), and Intel (No. 11). The magazine says this is, in part, because "most top tech companies do well on environmental issues." That claim would come as a surprise to groups such as the Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition (SVTC), which has for years been pointing out that high-tech industry is far dirtier than its clean image. The electronics industry is a heavy user of toxic chemicals, which have a way of seeping out into the environment, resulting in a proliferation of Superfund toxic waste sites in places such as Silicon Valley.
In recent years, SVTC has also been looking at another environmental problem caused by high tech: the growing volume of e-waste generated when obsolete computers and other devices -- with toxic material inside -- are thrown away. SVTC's Computer Take Back Campaign has been pressuring the major tech companies to take responsibility for recycling. While Dell and Hewlett-Packard have responded positively to the pressure, the campaign faults companies such as Apple (No. 25 on the Business Ethics list) for resisting.
Also difficult to accept is the other reason given by Business Ethics for the prevalence of tech firms at the top of the list: high scores on employee relations, including workplace health and safety. The same toxic chemicals that pollute communities around electronics plants have taken a toll on the health of workers inside the plants. For instance, in 2004, IBM (No. 41 on the Business Ethics list) paid an undisclosed amount to settle lawsuits brought by about 50 current and former workers who were suffering from cancer that they attributed to workplace exposure.
As for the aspect of employee relations relating to unions, Business Ethics fails to mention that the high-tech firms on its list are all largely unacquainted with collective bargaining. The electronics industry has resisted unionization of its domestic workforce for decades. A Wall Street Journal reporter once took a job incognito at a Texas Instruments plant and found workers there so intimidated that they panicked at the mere mention of unions. At the same time, these same companies have not hesitated to move much of their production to foreign sweatshops.
In recent years, the industry has also been moving high-level technical, research and design functions abroad to low-wage havens such as India -- much to the detriment of U.S. workers. IBM, now focused on computer services rather than hardware, has increased the size of its Indian workforce to 43,000. Any owner of a Dell computer knows that a call to tech support is likely to be answered by someone sitting in Bangalore.
Taking tax breaks
U.S. high-tech companies are not offshoring everything, but when they build new domestic operations they often engage in another practice that should raise questions in the minds of the ethics monitors: extorting tax breaks and other subsidies from state and local governments. Recently, the Albany Times-Union reported that New York State officials may be preparing a subsidy package worth $1 billion to persuade Advanced Micro Devices to build a new chip fabrication plant in Saratoga County.
This would be the latest in a long series of generous "incentives" that semiconductor and computer producers have taken from governments across the country. In 2004 Dell got a package worth up to $267 million when it agreed to locate a new assembly plant in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. The deal, which is being challenged in a lawsuit brought by the North Carolina Institute for Constitutional Law, mirrored a package Dell received in 1999 in connection with the construction of a plant in Nashville. When the city of Austin, Texas turned down Dell's demand for long-term property tax breaks, the company moved its headquarters to the suburb of Round Rock, which agreed to 20 years of abatements.
Intel has avoided hundreds of millions of dollars in local taxes on its facilities in New Mexico, Arizona and Oregon by using complex financing schemes involving industrial revenue bonds as well as straightforward abatements and exemptions. All these subsidies weaken the fiscal condition of local governments, making it harder for them to pay for services such as education and public safety.
Sharks and predators
High-tech is not the only industry that accounts for some questionable entries on the Business Ethics list. Take financial services. Wells Fargo & Co. (No. 16) scores high on workplace diversity, but it has been accused of mistreating its poorer customers -- many of whom are people of color. For the past several years, Wells has been the target of a campaign by the community-organizing network ACORN over its predatory lending practices. ACORN charges Wells with a slew of abusive practices, such as charging higher interest rates than a borrower's credit warrants and imposing excessive mortgage origination fees. This spring, for the third year in a row, ACORN activists -- including some carrying inflatable sharks -- demonstrated outside the Wells Fargo annual meeting. Also protesting were supporters of Rainforest Action Network (RAN), which has charged the bank with financing environmentally destructive infrastructure projects in developing countries.
RAN's Global Finance Campaign has succeeded in getting Citigroup Inc., No. 62 on the Business Ethics list, to adopt guidelines that promote more environmentally responsible projects, but the financial giant is still widely criticized for the predatory lending practices of its subsidiary Associates First Capital. More surprising is the appearance of Freddie Mac, No. 38 on the list. The mortgage finance entity has been embroiled in a major accounting scandal. In April it agreed to pay $3.8 million to settle charges relating to illegal campaign contributions.
Many other examples of companies with ethical lapses can be found on this list of supposedly exemplary corporate citizens. Johnson & Johnson (No. 12) refuses to join the 300 other companies that have signed the Campaign for Safe Cosmetics pledge not to use toxic ingredients. NIKE Inc. (No. 13) has adopted some reforms in response to years of criticism over labor practices at its overseas suppliers, but activist groups continue to cite abuses. General Mills (No. 14) sells food products with unlabeled genetically modified ingredients.
A question can even be raised about the company at the very top of the Business Ethics list: Green Mountain Coffee Roasters. The company seems to have a strong commitment to CSR, but one of its main customers is Exxon Mobil, which sells Green Mountain coffee at many of its service stations.
No company is perfect, especially Wal-Mart
The fact that the corporation dubbed most ethical does a great deal of business with a company that is widely seen as one of the least ethical -- along with the many mixed track records described above -- puts into question the legitimacy of the concept of CSR.
Wait, you may say -- no company is perfect. Maybe so, but should we be honoring some of those rather imperfect entities as "the best corporate citizens?" We certainly don't use such limited standards when it comes to real citizens. Do we honor embezzlers because they recycle their newspapers? Do we overlook child abuse because the parent contributes to the United Way? People are expected to follow all laws and ethical norms -- not only those that are convenient to obey. Why not apply the same standard to corporations?
Which brings us to Wal-Mart. Having been subjected to probably more criticism than any other single company (including two national pressure campaigns devoted exclusively to it), Wal-Mart is now changing its stripes -- or at least some of them. Last fall, the company announced a sweeping set of voluntary environmental measures that are supposed to sharply decrease its energy consumption, reduce its waste production and expand its recycling efforts. The giant retailer also said it would pressure its suppliers to adopt greener practices. More recently, there have been reports that Wal-Mart is making a big push into organic food products, sustainably fished salmon and fair trade coffee.
What the company has not announced are any significant changes in its labor practices. Wal-Mart remains adamantly anti-union and continues to offer low pay and limited benefits. It strongly opposes living wage initiatives. The fact that nearly half the children of its U.S. employees are uninsured or have to get coverage from taxpayer-funded programs is not likely to change any time soon. There is no evidence as yet that the company has eradicated the tendency of store managers to force employees to perform extra work off the clock. Slick TV ads notwithstanding, it remains to be seen whether Wal-Mart has significantly addressed charges of sex and race discrimination in its domestic workplaces. Given the company's obsession with cutting costs, there is every reason to believe that sweatshop conditions will persist in the factories of its foreign suppliers.
Resisting corporate green hype
The divergence between Wal-Mart's environmental reforms (assuming they turn out to be more than greenwash) and its retrograde labor policies symbolizes the selective business ethics that prevail today.
Like Wal-Mart, much of Corporate America claims to be going green. Sometimes this is the result of pressure, such as RAN's successful campaigns against firms such as Home Depot, Citigroup and Goldman Sachs. Sometimes it is for public relations purposes, such as General Electric's "eco-imagination" ad blitz that came after years of resisting responsibility for cleaning up PCBs in the Hudson River. And sometimes it is because companies have decided they can make money selling alternative products or technologies, such as Toyota's promotion of hybrids. While some executives may claim to be following their conscience, the fact is that corporate environmentalism today is deemed good for business.
The same cannot be said about enlightened employment practices. Most big companies still hold down wages, restrict medical coverage, downgrade retirement benefits, pay inadequate attention to workplace health and safety, engage in downsizing and offshoring, and, of course -- fight unionization or demand concessions from unions already in place. Chief executives at firms such as Wal-Mart claim they cannot afford to make major improvements in working conditions -- even if they will result in higher productivity -- yet they are now willing to spend heavily on environmental change.
It may take a major resurgence in the labor movement to get big business to give the same priority to workplace reforms that it now accords to environmental matters. In the meantime, we shouldn't get too carried away with the corporate green hype. And we certainly shouldn't be giving good citizenship awards to companies that view ethics as a menu from which to choose only that which is most palatable.
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Posted by: rsaxto on Jul 1, 2006 3:28 AM
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Posted by: gramps on Jul 1, 2006 3:40 AM
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Any one who has ever started a corporation can give you her reason for doing it. It was for the purpose of gathering large quantities of other people's money and to avoid liability. As to the sins of the corporations I refer you to Richard Mokhiber's list of felonies committed by these artifical "persons".
The real horror is that these mechanical sociopaths own both houses of Congress and the Administration as well as the media and that they have adopted war as an economic policy. Through the twenty or more "think tanks". They provide the talking heads for C-Span and CNN and the walking corporation: Murdoch owned Fox television.
While you are sitting in your SUV warming up the climate in a traffic jam as you come home or go to work. Remember that all of this is the gift of the benevolent corporations.
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Posted by: sheeplepeeple on Jul 1, 2006 4:08 AM
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Finally, after applying several times, she got a job at walmart. She really like it there because they treat her much better. And the pay comes on time.
The problem is not that corporations are bad. The problem is that the rich people in this country have been successful at polarizing us politically using moral issues and carving out factions pitted against each other, instead of pitted against them, the rich. Of course, in this situation, the rich are going to have their way. You are focusing on the symptoms here in this article and not the problem.
The problem is division. The symptoms are lower quality of lifestyle and workplace. Focus on the causes of the symptoms, not the symptoms.
Also, it wouldn't hurt to actually talk to some people who have to actually work, like my wife. From what I can tell, all you online political activists (both right and left) never have to work. You are out of touch with the real world. If you actually were in touch with the real world, you would know that small businesses are much worse "corporate citizens" than big corporations like walmart and intel.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Jul 1, 2006 5:53 AM
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Anyone who is a regular customer of their products has seen a drastic reduction is packaging size and volume over the last couple of years. They have also been working to reduce the energy usage of their products for a long time now. I think the info is outdated or inaccurate.
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Posted by: YogiBear on Jul 1, 2006 6:32 AM
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One of the tech companies on your list recently told one of its US-based contracters that the company wanted the same amount of work done as the previous year, but it could only pay the contracter half the money. So the contracter had to go overseas for its labor, leaving the company free to claim it's keeping US jobs here. Very unethical, IMO. It's job laundering. The corporate image stays good, while it gets the cheapy labor anyways.
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Posted by: tiellis on Jul 1, 2006 8:46 AM
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A corporation is an arbitrary rule-bound legal construct, an institution that has only two operating rules, based on the arithmetic logic of money (which, after all, is ONLY arithmetic--a transform of information about the marginal value of commodities):
(1) More is always better. (No matter how much market share you already have).
(2) The bottom line is the bottom line. (Nothing else matters)
Therefore, whatever maximizes the bottom line is good, and to be pursued. Whatever reduces it is bad, and is to be shunned or eliminated. That's all, and any other claimed motive for corporations is just PR.
There are only five methods available for increasing the bottom line, and only the first two are socially adaptive:
1. Providing and marketing commodities or services that people want or need.
2. Providing employment.
The remaining three available methods are demonstrably socially maladaptive:
1. Externalizing environmental costs of doing business by passing them on to the public, through pollution, topsoil depletion, pesticides, agricultural runoff, global warming, etc.)
2. Driving down labor costs (by busting unions, exporting jobs, and supporting tyrannies abroad--and increasingly, at home!--to keep labor dirt cheap.
3. Deception and manipulation, through advertising, lobbying, buying out politicians, media control, and "greenwashing" PR campaigns.
Corporations cannot be defeated by arms or even by voting; they, their captive mass media, and their client governments (including ours) are far too powerful for that. The only ways I can see for grassroots activism to curb the power of corporations is to focus on their two "achilles' heels."
One is the arbitrary Supreme Court decision that gave corporations the legal status of "Persons." Like any ruling, this can, in theory, be legally challenged. In their origins, corporations were a public trust, and their charters could be extended or revoked depending on whether they served the public interest. But this Supreme Court ruling reversed that, making them, in effect, autonomous, totally self-serving, and immortal. So a concerted legal campaign to challenge the legal premises of corporate privilege holds some promise--see the superb work of Thomas Linzer in Pennsylvania.
The other "achilles heel" is simply that their profitability, hence their very existence, depends on OUR choices as consumers. What would happen, therefore, if there were a mass movement, a "quiet revolution," based on propagating a very simple rule of thumb: Whenever possible, make your spending and investment decisions based on the best interests, not only of yourself, but also of your community, society, and planet. In short, whenever possible, buy local, buy organic, and above all, buy less junk. We should make it a cardinal rule NEVER to buy anything advertised on commercial television--imagine the effect THAT would have!
In other words, corporations are entirely dependent on their ability to sweet-talk, hoodwink, or compel us to buy their products. But we always have some choice in our purchasing decisions, and the more choice we exercise, the more choices we have.
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Posted by: Sojourner on Jul 1, 2006 9:41 AM
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So a company is to be judged by its customers? Isn't that like judging a writer by his readers? If some rightwingnut reads this piece, then the writer is guilty of providing aid and comfort to the rightwing?
I quit reading at that point. I wouldn't want to pollute this article with my suspension in belief.
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Posted by: I-RIGHT-I on Jul 1, 2006 9:51 AM
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You are incorrect. "We the People" get the kind of government we deserve. The first thing we have to take control of is ourselves. We are addicted to materialism, to comfort and to feel good philosophies that run counter to our nature. What we need is a good old fashioned world war with our very survival hanging in the ballance to bring us back together as a people. Then we need to hang every lawyer and left wing fuckwit we can get our hands on. That will keep us going for the next 100 years.
Oh, wait...I think we've already got one of those world wars going right now. Most of you just don't realize it yet. When we get hit hard, and we will, you'll get the picture.
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» More emotionally charged generalizations
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» MALROX Enter the real world.
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» AND CLEARLY SEVERAL OF THE FLIES HAVE GOTTEN IN.
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Posted by: Steven Wanzell on Jul 1, 2006 4:50 PM
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For nearly the entire American society, selling out their virtues is THE way of life, and has been for generations.
But their miscalculation is in believing that they actually benefit from the deal. Since they're brainwashed to consume obsessively, they end up returning their (temporary/imagined) gains to precisely where they came from - the corporatocracy. Soon (by over-extending on credit), they are trapped. And the symbols of their alleged "wealth" (mostly fashion and technology) loses much of its market value before its even paid for. Not to mention the horrendous losses of interest charges and hidden fees. Welcome to Fantasy Island! Drink the water at your own peril.
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jul 2, 2006 9:06 AM
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http://www.celdf.org/Ordinances/tabid/61/Default.aspx
The twin notions of corporate personhood (freedom of speech laws) and corporate ownership (holding company laws) have created a multi-headed monster whose human components are largely interchangeable. The only way to deal with multi-headed monsters is to chop them up into little pieces, and that means reducing or eliminating the liability protections for shareholders - tying them to their investments, in other words.
If you could just cut the shareholder reins of control and place it in the hands of senior employees in individual companies, and make the shareholders 'silent partners', and force the businesses to obey the law, and forbid them from bribing politicians to change those laws, things would be a bit better. In other words, enforce the anti-trust laws!
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jul 2, 2006 11:46 AM
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None of these things are inherently evil.
Let businesses make products, perform services and money; set regulations only when/where necessary.
The problem is that we've gone from a republic to a coin-toss system of government, in which whatever party sucks the worst gets replaced with a party that sucks less...for a time.
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Posted by: gramps on Jul 2, 2006 5:04 PM
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The insane fiscal situation we are now in is because policy is made by these robots. The justification of Supreme Court Justice Waite in 1867 was that the corporations now dominated the economic life of the country and so they had to have personhood in order to do business. They still dominate the economic life of the country and are crimials, but you can't throw a corporation in jail or put it on death row. Humans die but corporations live on.
It is time that we recognized that this is the central problem of society today.
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Posted by: gramps on Jul 1, 2006 3:40 AM
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Any one who has ever started a corporation can give you her reason for doing it. It was for the purpose of gathering large quantities of other people's money and to avoid liability. As to the sins of the corporations I refer you to Richard Mokhiber's list of felonies committed by these artifical "persons".
The real horror is that these mechanical sociopaths own both houses of Congress and the Administration as well as the media and that they have adopted war as an economic policy. Through the twenty or more "think tanks". They provide the talking heads for C-Span and CNN and the walking corporation: Murdoch owned Fox television.
While you are sitting in your SUV warming up the climate in a traffic jam as you come home or go to work. Remember that all of this is the gift of the benevolent corporations.
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Posted by: sheeplepeeple on Jul 1, 2006 4:08 AM
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Finally, after applying several times, she got a job at walmart. She really like it there because they treat her much better. And the pay comes on time.
The problem is not that corporations are bad. The problem is that the rich people in this country have been successful at polarizing us politically using moral issues and carving out factions pitted against each other, instead of pitted against them, the rich. Of course, in this situation, the rich are going to have their way. You are focusing on the symptoms here in this article and not the problem.
The problem is division. The symptoms are lower quality of lifestyle and workplace. Focus on the causes of the symptoms, not the symptoms.
Also, it wouldn't hurt to actually talk to some people who have to actually work, like my wife. From what I can tell, all you online political activists (both right and left) never have to work. You are out of touch with the real world. If you actually were in touch with the real world, you would know that small businesses are much worse "corporate citizens" than big corporations like walmart and intel.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Jul 1, 2006 5:53 AM
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Anyone who is a regular customer of their products has seen a drastic reduction is packaging size and volume over the last couple of years. They have also been working to reduce the energy usage of their products for a long time now. I think the info is outdated or inaccurate.
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Posted by: YogiBear on Jul 1, 2006 6:32 AM
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One of the tech companies on your list recently told one of its US-based contracters that the company wanted the same amount of work done as the previous year, but it could only pay the contracter half the money. So the contracter had to go overseas for its labor, leaving the company free to claim it's keeping US jobs here. Very unethical, IMO. It's job laundering. The corporate image stays good, while it gets the cheapy labor anyways.
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Posted by: tiellis on Jul 1, 2006 8:46 AM
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A corporation is an arbitrary rule-bound legal construct, an institution that has only two operating rules, based on the arithmetic logic of money (which, after all, is ONLY arithmetic--a transform of information about the marginal value of commodities):
(1) More is always better. (No matter how much market share you already have).
(2) The bottom line is the bottom line. (Nothing else matters)
Therefore, whatever maximizes the bottom line is good, and to be pursued. Whatever reduces it is bad, and is to be shunned or eliminated. That's all, and any other claimed motive for corporations is just PR.
There are only five methods available for increasing the bottom line, and only the first two are socially adaptive:
1. Providing and marketing commodities or services that people want or need.
2. Providing employment.
The remaining three available methods are demonstrably socially maladaptive:
1. Externalizing environmental costs of doing business by passing them on to the public, through pollution, topsoil depletion, pesticides, agricultural runoff, global warming, etc.)
2. Driving down labor costs (by busting unions, exporting jobs, and supporting tyrannies abroad--and increasingly, at home!--to keep labor dirt cheap.
3. Deception and manipulation, through advertising, lobbying, buying out politicians, media control, and "greenwashing" PR campaigns.
Corporations cannot be defeated by arms or even by voting; they, their captive mass media, and their client governments (including ours) are far too powerful for that. The only ways I can see for grassroots activism to curb the power of corporations is to focus on their two "achilles' heels."
One is the arbitrary Supreme Court decision that gave corporations the legal status of "Persons." Like any ruling, this can, in theory, be legally challenged. In their origins, corporations were a public trust, and their charters could be extended or revoked depending on whether they served the public interest. But this Supreme Court ruling reversed that, making them, in effect, autonomous, totally self-serving, and immortal. So a concerted legal campaign to challenge the legal premises of corporate privilege holds some promise--see the superb work of Thomas Linzer in Pennsylvania.
The other "achilles heel" is simply that their profitability, hence their very existence, depends on OUR choices as consumers. What would happen, therefore, if there were a mass movement, a "quiet revolution," based on propagating a very simple rule of thumb: Whenever possible, make your spending and investment decisions based on the best interests, not only of yourself, but also of your community, society, and planet. In short, whenever possible, buy local, buy organic, and above all, buy less junk. We should make it a cardinal rule NEVER to buy anything advertised on commercial television--imagine the effect THAT would have!
In other words, corporations are entirely dependent on their ability to sweet-talk, hoodwink, or compel us to buy their products. But we always have some choice in our purchasing decisions, and the more choice we exercise, the more choices we have.
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Posted by: Sojourner on Jul 1, 2006 9:41 AM
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So a company is to be judged by its customers? Isn't that like judging a writer by his readers? If some rightwingnut reads this piece, then the writer is guilty of providing aid and comfort to the rightwing?
I quit reading at that point. I wouldn't want to pollute this article with my suspension in belief.
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Posted by: I-RIGHT-I on Jul 1, 2006 9:51 AM
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You are incorrect. "We the People" get the kind of government we deserve. The first thing we have to take control of is ourselves. We are addicted to materialism, to comfort and to feel good philosophies that run counter to our nature. What we need is a good old fashioned world war with our very survival hanging in the ballance to bring us back together as a people. Then we need to hang every lawyer and left wing fuckwit we can get our hands on. That will keep us going for the next 100 years.
Oh, wait...I think we've already got one of those world wars going right now. Most of you just don't realize it yet. When we get hit hard, and we will, you'll get the picture.
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Posted by: Steven Wanzell on Jul 1, 2006 4:50 PM
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For nearly the entire American society, selling out their virtues is THE way of life, and has been for generations.
But their miscalculation is in believing that they actually benefit from the deal. Since they're brainwashed to consume obsessively, they end up returning their (temporary/imagined) gains to precisely where they came from - the corporatocracy. Soon (by over-extending on credit), they are trapped. And the symbols of their alleged "wealth" (mostly fashion and technology) loses much of its market value before its even paid for. Not to mention the horrendous losses of interest charges and hidden fees. Welcome to Fantasy Island! Drink the water at your own peril.
Steven Wanzell
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jul 2, 2006 9:06 AM
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http://www.celdf.org/Ordinances/tabid/61/Default.aspx
The twin notions of corporate personhood (freedom of speech laws) and corporate ownership (holding company laws) have created a multi-headed monster whose human components are largely interchangeable. The only way to deal with multi-headed monsters is to chop them up into little pieces, and that means reducing or eliminating the liability protections for shareholders - tying them to their investments, in other words.
If you could just cut the shareholder reins of control and place it in the hands of senior employees in individual companies, and make the shareholders 'silent partners', and force the businesses to obey the law, and forbid them from bribing politicians to change those laws, things would be a bit better. In other words, enforce the anti-trust laws!
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jul 2, 2006 11:46 AM
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None of these things are inherently evil.
Let businesses make products, perform services and money; set regulations only when/where necessary.
The problem is that we've gone from a republic to a coin-toss system of government, in which whatever party sucks the worst gets replaced with a party that sucks less...for a time.
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Posted by: gramps on Jul 2, 2006 5:04 PM
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The insane fiscal situation we are now in is because policy is made by these robots. The justification of Supreme Court Justice Waite in 1867 was that the corporations now dominated the economic life of the country and so they had to have personhood in order to do business. They still dominate the economic life of the country and are crimials, but you can't throw a corporation in jail or put it on death row. Humans die but corporations live on.
It is time that we recognized that this is the central problem of society today.
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