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Rachel Maddow: Corporations Are "Child Labor-Endorsing, Pro-Slavery Freaks" for Trying to Skirt Trade Laws
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The following is excerpted from the Nov 10 Transcript of the Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC.
Rachel Maddow: The new rules for Wall Street and the banks will also create a consumer financial protection agency. So in the same way that regulation keeps off the market things that, when used as directed, have a good chance of killing you, things like long darts, or cars with the fuel tank right next to the bumper.
A consumer financial protection agency would keep off the markets, say, really bad mortgages that, when used as directed, are likely to blow up in your face as well. Are these bills from Barney Frank and Chris Dodd the end-all, be-all for Wall Street rules? Will these prevent the shunting of all the financial risk on to the public while those doing the shunting never personally risk anything more than drowning in their own bonus money?
I don‘t know. Surely, these bills aren‘t perfect, but they are a start. And so, of course, the opposition is already lined up and ready to do anything they can to protect themselves and their profits and their profligate risk from any new constraints.
You know, since the last period of them not having rules worked so well for them. The New York Times noting that even before the new regulation bill was unveiled today, quote, “It had encountered sharp resistance from Republicans and powerful business interests in Washington. Mr. Dodd has yet to produce the Republican who supports his plan. Moreover, several provisions will probably be opposed by moderate and conservative Democrats with ties to various industry groups that have raised objections to the measure.”
Even though the country just barely survived the disaster that the financial industry got us into, I supposed that it‘s inevitable that that industry would even now fight new regulations designed to stop that from happening again.
But as Republicans and conservative Democrats in Congress start lining up with corporate America and against new regulations now, consider the alliance that they are making.
Populist columnist David Sirota today made this catch from the business newsletter “Inside U.S. Trade.” This is a D.C.-based publication on trade issues. It‘s especially for people in international business.
What else are business groups worried about and lobbying against other than the new Wall Street regulations? I wouldn‘t believe this if I had not seen it for myself.
But check this out, quote, “Business groups are worried by the potential effects of provisions banning the import of all goods made with convict labor, forced labor or forced or indentured child labor that were included in a recent customs bill. American business groups are concerned, upset.” “Worried” was the actual phrase, worried about laws against using slaves and child labor.
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Posted by: Gaubladt on Nov 11, 2009 3:20 PM
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» Really??? So, $800 million in profits off of 20 cents an hour labor is ok with you???
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» No "maybe" about it... keep remembering the 1920's and birth of labor unions...
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Posted by: wisegalah on Nov 12, 2009 3:09 AM
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Big business, and the politicians whose support has been bought by big business, however are entirely different. There is no point in trying to shame them because that only works with those who are capable of understanding that their behaviour is wrong.
The two most difficult types of person to deal with are the psychopaths and the amoral. The difficulty arises from the same condition, namely the abscence in these people of any notion that their behaviour is unacceptable. They lack any central reference point from which they may evaluate their behaviour. The two differ in that the psychopath lacks any such centre and the amoral is totally ego-centric,. that is all they have but it lives in isolation and is incapable of empathic relations with anyone else.
The only way to manage them is to institute a set of rigid regulations backed with strictly enforced punishments for any transgressions.
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Posted by: peterjkraus on Nov 12, 2009 5:05 AM
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If there were ten more Rachel Maddows on the air, electronic journalism would once again be a profession even the doubters could love.
So, Rachel, you have every right to be admired. And you have every right to go after the thugs. We've got your back.
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It is easy to criticize what you don't understand.
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where is their outrage on leather? (let's see the ladies support PETA when they're reminded that leather is an animal product too)
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I only have leather - shoes and handbags. I eat meat. I love meat.
My logic - leather is a by product - and we are part of nature - we all feed on something living. That is the reality. I will not wear fur as its cruel and not a by-product. I avoid eating animals that have been raised cruelly
AND I support PETA 100%. I am not conflicted in supporting them. Even if they disagree with my thinking.
I admire PETAS principles. they are the ideal. And Im not conflicted in my support for them.
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I think the actual 'offense' PETA takes is over native American culture and especially over our religion. We do wear fur. Plus, teeth, feathers, bones, etc. And yeah, we are meat eaters. We like to BBQ.
I have noticed there are special interest people or groups against every single manifestation of native American culture and religion - but each of them appears to be acting independently. Hmm...
It creates a very effective wall of ethnic cleansing against Native American culture. Why don't they ever talk about our moral perspective our Native American religion?
THEY DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO TALK ABOUT IT!!!
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Posted by: Prophit0 on Nov 12, 2009 5:46 AM
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Such passive companies are Walmart. Can you imagine if this bill passes, walmart is out of business. Then Dyncorp, HANES UNDERWEAR are the active promoters and users of Slave and child labor overseas. IN FACT, DYNACORP is also a promoter of the SEX SLAVE TRADE. Their own corp execs engaged in it in Bosnia.
Here is an example of our defense depts complicity in slavery.
U.S. stalls on human trafficking
Pentagon has yet to ban contractors from using forced labor
Excerpt:
".... She also had called for creation of an internal Pentagon watchdog after investigating the military's links to sex trafficking in the Balkans.
The Tribune retraced the journey of 12 Nepali men recruited from poor villages in one of the most remote and impoverished corners of the world and documented a trail of deceit, fraud and negligence stretching into Iraq.
And this:
"media reports detailing the alleged involvement of DynCorp employees in buying women and girls as sex slaves in Bosnia during the U.S. military's deployment there in the late 1990s."
This article supports the Sex slave trade issue:
US: DynCorp Disgrace
by Kelly Patricia O'Meara, Insight Magazine
January 14th, 2002
and this one:
American firm in Bosnia sex trade row poised to win MoD contract
Jamie Wilson and Kevin Maguire
or this article:
UNMIK, KFOR Fueling Sex Slavery In Kosovo, Amnesty Says
You can see how long this has been going on. I hope this bill isn't another "POSTURING" bill to show what good guys these reps are.
Here is a personal story we should all read to see just how horrible and degrading this process is .
Theresa Flores was an unlikely sex slave.
Even after all that posturing, nothing has ever been done about it, in fact, China has built an entire industry and their entire GDP off of prison labor and slave labor. Does this bill she talks about INCLUDE SEX SLAVERY?
Here is the one on WalMart....
Unpaid Teens Bag Groceries for Wal-Mart
or this one....Its appalling...
The COLD HARD FACTS; Child slave labor; 246 million world wide
Excerpt:
"246 million children are involved in this dangerous practice of child slave labor. They are involved in child trafficking, domestic labor, armed conflict, mining, agriculture, and manufacturing. These children are virtually robbed of their childhood, forced to work under the harshest of conditions, and endure what no human being should ever have to endure. "Child labor ranges from four-year-olds tied to rug looms to keep them from running away, to seventeen-year-olds helping out on the family farm"
No wonder our nation is dying economically. I REMEMBER LAST TIME THE ROBBER BARONS DID THIS, WAS BACK IN THE 20'S AND WE WENT TO WAR ON THE STREETS OVER THIS AND WON. Its how labor unions were born. No more child labor.
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Posted by: BobPomeroy on Nov 12, 2009 5:51 AM
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The argument that there is "too much law" is crap. These are the people who have the resources to not only cope, but banks and banks of lawyers and number crunchers to confound the law. The greater number of people do not have any kind of access like that.
We have the highest percentage and greatest number of prison residents in the developed world, and what for, pot smoking and the like. So many that we cannot afford space there for the perpetrators of more serious offenses against society.
What are we about anyway?
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Posted by: ismac76 on Nov 12, 2009 6:07 AM
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"...there is less difference between the slave and the “free” worker than appears. Slaves, though they seem to be paid nothing, are provided with the means of their survival and reproduction, for which workers (who become temporary slaves during their hours of labor) are compelled to pay most of their wages. The fact that some jobs are less unpleasant than others, and that individual workers have the nominal right to switch jobs, start their own business, buy stocks or win a lottery, disguises the fact that the vast majority of people are collectively enslaved."- i copied this quote recently, but forgot where i read it...
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Posted by: gunboat diplomat on Nov 12, 2009 7:44 AM
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1) The post-WWII development initiatives in Europe aimed at rebuilding industry and democracy across the region were fairly successful at first, before the Cold War took off.
2) During the Cold War era, the British and French Empires were wiped away by American and Soviet maneuvering. Each empire expanded its economic sphere of influence, often using proxy armies.
3) The empires were able to acquire goods and services from their colonies, but the American version was far more loosely structured and was based on reciprocal economic exchanges - the most famous example being the Saudi-American petrodollar recycling via military-infrastructure investment, which is why Saudi Arabia is such a major trading partner of Britain and the U.S.
Slavery is legal in Saudi Arabia, isn't it? For the aristocrats only, of course. Guess who is jealous?
4) When the communist empire collapsed under the weight of pollution, corruption, arrogance, greed and war, the Cold War ended and the Soviet empire was largely dismantled - but not before many pictures were taken of the worker's paradise:
"After 74 years of Communist mismanagement, the country that once spanned a sixth of the globe has become an environmental cesspool that is threatening its neighbors in Europe and Asia."
5) Now, here the U.S.-British leadership had two choices - grasp for empire, or take the peace dividend and invest domestically. The military-industrial complex balked at the latter plan, as did corporations looking to recover resources from puppet countries (as well as find cheap labor).
6) The choice was made to go with Empire. There were two camps backing this: the neoliberal corporate Democrats and the neoconservative corporate Republicans. Soft power based on economic pressure and covert action, vs. hard power based on aerial bombardment and Marine landings.
7) The working American public? Those plebes don't matter, give them Oprah and Limbaugh and American Idol, that's all they need. Tell them their homes are like banks, set them up with subprime loans, foreclose on the homes, sell them off to landowner conglomerates who rent them or turn them into condos, stick them with ridiculous health insurance costs and then deny coverage, push drugs on them that they don't need or that even kill them - fatten the hog and lead it to the slaughter - or is that an exaggeration of the mentality here?
What was that Daily Show quote from Larry Wilmore?
"Let's party like it's 1899!"
8) Empire falls due to overextension and greed, and let's be honest - in extremis, one more last gasp of military aggression is not beyond the real of the possible, especially if the military industrial clowns (Liebermann and cohort, for example) get their way.
Solution? Rapid clean energy, clean agriculture and clean manufacturing reinvestment and FDR-scale programs for infrastructure and jobs.
Problem? Wall Street doesn't care if the world burns and the nation collapses, and so the government has to force them to do it with incentives and regulations.
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» DITTO!!! and lets give MSNBC a hand for allowing her to bring this up.
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Posted by: lclark on Nov 12, 2009 8:05 AM
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When was it you didn't understand that multination corporations exploit people and manage the mass media?
A corporation as a legal entity is a sociopath. It has no conscience, simply a PR mechanism to obscure its inherently exploitative goals.
Most large corporations in the U.S. pay no taxes, but get direct or indirect (armed force) subsidies from taxes.
The troops in Afganistan arn't hunting Osama, there too taxed protecting the pipeline that goes thru the country.
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Posted by: Livemike on Nov 12, 2009 9:23 PM
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Right so there weren't litterally thousands of pages of financial regulation prior to the crisis? Seriously read something Rachel. And the claim that the new rules "are a start" is just that - a claim. You haven'tproven that they will not be harmful, and a good case can (and has) been made that they are.
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» We HAVE proven, that you remove regs and all hell breaks out.
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Posted by: CommonDreamer on Nov 15, 2009 8:37 PM
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Being ripped off by Wall Street as we have been, we regular joe consumers don't have any more money as it's all been stolen in the name of "profits" by depressing our wages, laying people off, rewarding poor decision making by CEOs, offering usury credit so we can "keep up" (as if that were some kind of need)....and falsely inflating assets such as housing to make us think we are rich.
The only good thing about this recession - or depression as one might more honestly experience it, is a re-thinking of priorities (we can only hope)....and seeing how manipulated and used we have been by rogue capitalism which is an empty, amoral and spiritual vacuum. Capitalism needs regulation - but more than that, we need humanism as our guide - and hurting human beings so we can buy millions of cheap purses or shoes - what in God's name have we become? Lastly, in America, it has been quantity over quality (that is in everything - work time, eating, things we buy). This needs to be reversed for us to revive our society and most importantly, for us to stop hurting others.
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Posted by: LightningJoe on Nov 25, 2009 3:27 PM
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Ever since then, the unions have gotten the starvation treatment, with their contract negotiations typically stalled until the cycles run out. Presto! No contracts; no union protections. You still have the union sitting there, in name only, and it's still taking the worker's dues; but with a guaranteed zero-return to the workers, for paying those dues, all the dues get you is increasing worker resentment toward the unions. Game over, for the unions.
This is Cheap Labor Capital's explicit plan: to drive down the commonality of the workers; to separate them into camps of one worker each, with no power to bargain for better conditions. The CLC's act like this because "their" profits (that we workers earn "for" them) are understandably threatened by worker power. They think the unions are "stealing" "their" profits, and they're not about to let that happen -- not while they have the power.
Let's be clear about this behavior. It's based on the false premise that being the "owner" of a profit-making facility means that it's really okay to short-change those who actually do the work for you, and skim off their share of profits, give them less than a pitance to live on, so they are addicted to pennies and debt. This is a vehemently anti-Christian attitude, along the lines of God "wanting them to be rich" -- another common attitude. Not only is it unChristian, but it's immoral as well. Those who do the work SHOULD get MOST of the recompense for doing it. Period. And any scheme that limits the power of those who work for compensation is a corruption.
Right after WWII, in the midst of the best economy we've EVER had, the very richest were taxed at 90 percent, and labor had power. But the rich have now established their sway over Congress, the richest of them are now taxed at below 20 percent effective rates, labor is out of power, and we are in economic free fall. See a pattern yet?
Anyone?
The pattern is that the rich are sharks. They can't stop moving -- or stop eating. If no one steps in, they will continue to eat up our livelihoods, until we die -- or until we kill them.
It's stark, but that is the choice. Die or kill.
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Posted by: tgolferman on Nov 26, 2009 6:38 PM
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The victims of Apartheid have just gotten clearance from the U.S. Supreme Court to bring a 400 billion dollar lawsuit against the multi-national corporations and large banks that were involved in the Apartheid exploitation. You can read my article clicking here. You can read the BBC article about the lawsuit by clicking here.
Again, Great Job Rachel. Keep up the fight.
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» BUT,,, Will their machines then be good consumers and buy the product?????
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» No "maybe" about it... keep remembering the 1920's and birth of labor unions...
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Posted by: wisegalah on Nov 12, 2009 3:09 AM
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Big business, and the politicians whose support has been bought by big business, however are entirely different. There is no point in trying to shame them because that only works with those who are capable of understanding that their behaviour is wrong.
The two most difficult types of person to deal with are the psychopaths and the amoral. The difficulty arises from the same condition, namely the abscence in these people of any notion that their behaviour is unacceptable. They lack any central reference point from which they may evaluate their behaviour. The two differ in that the psychopath lacks any such centre and the amoral is totally ego-centric,. that is all they have but it lives in isolation and is incapable of empathic relations with anyone else.
The only way to manage them is to institute a set of rigid regulations backed with strictly enforced punishments for any transgressions.
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Posted by: peterjkraus on Nov 12, 2009 5:05 AM
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If there were ten more Rachel Maddows on the air, electronic journalism would once again be a profession even the doubters could love.
So, Rachel, you have every right to be admired. And you have every right to go after the thugs. We've got your back.
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Tony Gonzalez's Nude PETA Ad PHOTO: Naked With Wife October
- KindOne
It is easy to criticize what you don't understand.
Yeha-Noha (Wishes of Happiness & Prosperity)
- xypher0725
where is their outrage on leather? (let's see the ladies support PETA when they're reminded that leather is an animal product too)
- ask0
I only have leather - shoes and handbags. I eat meat. I love meat.
My logic - leather is a by product - and we are part of nature - we all feed on something living. That is the reality. I will not wear fur as its cruel and not a by-product. I avoid eating animals that have been raised cruelly
AND I support PETA 100%. I am not conflicted in supporting them. Even if they disagree with my thinking.
I admire PETAS principles. they are the ideal. And Im not conflicted in my support for them.
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I think the actual 'offense' PETA takes is over native American culture and especially over our religion. We do wear fur. Plus, teeth, feathers, bones, etc. And yeah, we are meat eaters. We like to BBQ.
I have noticed there are special interest people or groups against every single manifestation of native American culture and religion - but each of them appears to be acting independently. Hmm...
It creates a very effective wall of ethnic cleansing against Native American culture. Why don't they ever talk about our moral perspective our Native American religion?
THEY DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO TALK ABOUT IT!!!
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Posted by: Prophit0 on Nov 12, 2009 5:46 AM
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Such passive companies are Walmart. Can you imagine if this bill passes, walmart is out of business. Then Dyncorp, HANES UNDERWEAR are the active promoters and users of Slave and child labor overseas. IN FACT, DYNACORP is also a promoter of the SEX SLAVE TRADE. Their own corp execs engaged in it in Bosnia.
Here is an example of our defense depts complicity in slavery.
U.S. stalls on human trafficking
Pentagon has yet to ban contractors from using forced labor
Excerpt:
".... She also had called for creation of an internal Pentagon watchdog after investigating the military's links to sex trafficking in the Balkans.
The Tribune retraced the journey of 12 Nepali men recruited from poor villages in one of the most remote and impoverished corners of the world and documented a trail of deceit, fraud and negligence stretching into Iraq.
And this:
"media reports detailing the alleged involvement of DynCorp employees in buying women and girls as sex slaves in Bosnia during the U.S. military's deployment there in the late 1990s."
This article supports the Sex slave trade issue:
US: DynCorp Disgrace
by Kelly Patricia O'Meara, Insight Magazine
January 14th, 2002
and this one:
American firm in Bosnia sex trade row poised to win MoD contract
Jamie Wilson and Kevin Maguire
or this article:
UNMIK, KFOR Fueling Sex Slavery In Kosovo, Amnesty Says
You can see how long this has been going on. I hope this bill isn't another "POSTURING" bill to show what good guys these reps are.
Here is a personal story we should all read to see just how horrible and degrading this process is .
Theresa Flores was an unlikely sex slave.
Even after all that posturing, nothing has ever been done about it, in fact, China has built an entire industry and their entire GDP off of prison labor and slave labor. Does this bill she talks about INCLUDE SEX SLAVERY?
Here is the one on WalMart....
Unpaid Teens Bag Groceries for Wal-Mart
or this one....Its appalling...
The COLD HARD FACTS; Child slave labor; 246 million world wide
Excerpt:
"246 million children are involved in this dangerous practice of child slave labor. They are involved in child trafficking, domestic labor, armed conflict, mining, agriculture, and manufacturing. These children are virtually robbed of their childhood, forced to work under the harshest of conditions, and endure what no human being should ever have to endure. "Child labor ranges from four-year-olds tied to rug looms to keep them from running away, to seventeen-year-olds helping out on the family farm"
No wonder our nation is dying economically. I REMEMBER LAST TIME THE ROBBER BARONS DID THIS, WAS BACK IN THE 20'S AND WE WENT TO WAR ON THE STREETS OVER THIS AND WON. Its how labor unions were born. No more child labor.
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The argument that there is "too much law" is crap. These are the people who have the resources to not only cope, but banks and banks of lawyers and number crunchers to confound the law. The greater number of people do not have any kind of access like that.
We have the highest percentage and greatest number of prison residents in the developed world, and what for, pot smoking and the like. So many that we cannot afford space there for the perpetrators of more serious offenses against society.
What are we about anyway?
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"...there is less difference between the slave and the “free” worker than appears. Slaves, though they seem to be paid nothing, are provided with the means of their survival and reproduction, for which workers (who become temporary slaves during their hours of labor) are compelled to pay most of their wages. The fact that some jobs are less unpleasant than others, and that individual workers have the nominal right to switch jobs, start their own business, buy stocks or win a lottery, disguises the fact that the vast majority of people are collectively enslaved."- i copied this quote recently, but forgot where i read it...
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1) The post-WWII development initiatives in Europe aimed at rebuilding industry and democracy across the region were fairly successful at first, before the Cold War took off.
2) During the Cold War era, the British and French Empires were wiped away by American and Soviet maneuvering. Each empire expanded its economic sphere of influence, often using proxy armies.
3) The empires were able to acquire goods and services from their colonies, but the American version was far more loosely structured and was based on reciprocal economic exchanges - the most famous example being the Saudi-American petrodollar recycling via military-infrastructure investment, which is why Saudi Arabia is such a major trading partner of Britain and the U.S.
Slavery is legal in Saudi Arabia, isn't it? For the aristocrats only, of course. Guess who is jealous?
4) When the communist empire collapsed under the weight of pollution, corruption, arrogance, greed and war, the Cold War ended and the Soviet empire was largely dismantled - but not before many pictures were taken of the worker's paradise:
"After 74 years of Communist mismanagement, the country that once spanned a sixth of the globe has become an environmental cesspool that is threatening its neighbors in Europe and Asia."
5) Now, here the U.S.-British leadership had two choices - grasp for empire, or take the peace dividend and invest domestically. The military-industrial complex balked at the latter plan, as did corporations looking to recover resources from puppet countries (as well as find cheap labor).
6) The choice was made to go with Empire. There were two camps backing this: the neoliberal corporate Democrats and the neoconservative corporate Republicans. Soft power based on economic pressure and covert action, vs. hard power based on aerial bombardment and Marine landings.
7) The working American public? Those plebes don't matter, give them Oprah and Limbaugh and American Idol, that's all they need. Tell them their homes are like banks, set them up with subprime loans, foreclose on the homes, sell them off to landowner conglomerates who rent them or turn them into condos, stick them with ridiculous health insurance costs and then deny coverage, push drugs on them that they don't need or that even kill them - fatten the hog and lead it to the slaughter - or is that an exaggeration of the mentality here?
What was that Daily Show quote from Larry Wilmore?
"Let's party like it's 1899!"
8) Empire falls due to overextension and greed, and let's be honest - in extremis, one more last gasp of military aggression is not beyond the real of the possible, especially if the military industrial clowns (Liebermann and cohort, for example) get their way.
Solution? Rapid clean energy, clean agriculture and clean manufacturing reinvestment and FDR-scale programs for infrastructure and jobs.
Problem? Wall Street doesn't care if the world burns and the nation collapses, and so the government has to force them to do it with incentives and regulations.
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» DITTO!!! and lets give MSNBC a hand for allowing her to bring this up.
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When was it you didn't understand that multination corporations exploit people and manage the mass media?
A corporation as a legal entity is a sociopath. It has no conscience, simply a PR mechanism to obscure its inherently exploitative goals.
Most large corporations in the U.S. pay no taxes, but get direct or indirect (armed force) subsidies from taxes.
The troops in Afganistan arn't hunting Osama, there too taxed protecting the pipeline that goes thru the country.
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Right so there weren't litterally thousands of pages of financial regulation prior to the crisis? Seriously read something Rachel. And the claim that the new rules "are a start" is just that - a claim. You haven'tproven that they will not be harmful, and a good case can (and has) been made that they are.
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Being ripped off by Wall Street as we have been, we regular joe consumers don't have any more money as it's all been stolen in the name of "profits" by depressing our wages, laying people off, rewarding poor decision making by CEOs, offering usury credit so we can "keep up" (as if that were some kind of need)....and falsely inflating assets such as housing to make us think we are rich.
The only good thing about this recession - or depression as one might more honestly experience it, is a re-thinking of priorities (we can only hope)....and seeing how manipulated and used we have been by rogue capitalism which is an empty, amoral and spiritual vacuum. Capitalism needs regulation - but more than that, we need humanism as our guide - and hurting human beings so we can buy millions of cheap purses or shoes - what in God's name have we become? Lastly, in America, it has been quantity over quality (that is in everything - work time, eating, things we buy). This needs to be reversed for us to revive our society and most importantly, for us to stop hurting others.
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Ever since then, the unions have gotten the starvation treatment, with their contract negotiations typically stalled until the cycles run out. Presto! No contracts; no union protections. You still have the union sitting there, in name only, and it's still taking the worker's dues; but with a guaranteed zero-return to the workers, for paying those dues, all the dues get you is increasing worker resentment toward the unions. Game over, for the unions.
This is Cheap Labor Capital's explicit plan: to drive down the commonality of the workers; to separate them into camps of one worker each, with no power to bargain for better conditions. The CLC's act like this because "their" profits (that we workers earn "for" them) are understandably threatened by worker power. They think the unions are "stealing" "their" profits, and they're not about to let that happen -- not while they have the power.
Let's be clear about this behavior. It's based on the false premise that being the "owner" of a profit-making facility means that it's really okay to short-change those who actually do the work for you, and skim off their share of profits, give them less than a pitance to live on, so they are addicted to pennies and debt. This is a vehemently anti-Christian attitude, along the lines of God "wanting them to be rich" -- another common attitude. Not only is it unChristian, but it's immoral as well. Those who do the work SHOULD get MOST of the recompense for doing it. Period. And any scheme that limits the power of those who work for compensation is a corruption.
Right after WWII, in the midst of the best economy we've EVER had, the very richest were taxed at 90 percent, and labor had power. But the rich have now established their sway over Congress, the richest of them are now taxed at below 20 percent effective rates, labor is out of power, and we are in economic free fall. See a pattern yet?
Anyone?
The pattern is that the rich are sharks. They can't stop moving -- or stop eating. If no one steps in, they will continue to eat up our livelihoods, until we die -- or until we kill them.
It's stark, but that is the choice. Die or kill.
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The victims of Apartheid have just gotten clearance from the U.S. Supreme Court to bring a 400 billion dollar lawsuit against the multi-national corporations and large banks that were involved in the Apartheid exploitation. You can read my article clicking here. You can read the BBC article about the lawsuit by clicking here.
Again, Great Job Rachel. Keep up the fight.
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