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Who's Paying for the Recession Most of All? Young Workers
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When David Thyme was an even younger man than he is today, his fantasies of early adulthood did not include a 9:30 pm curfew and a bed in Covenant House, a shelter for homeless youth. Then again, they also didn't include a recession so severe that his financially strapped father would ask him to help with rent--or that when he couldn't find an entry-level job to do so, his father would ask him to leave home. "He was like, Son, you got to do what you got to do. I can't have you in my house," recalled the thin-faced 18-year-old from the Bronx.
Shawn Bolden, an earnest 23-year-old from Harlem, also nursed a different vision of his youthful years. A graduate of Monroe College with a degree in criminal justice, he imagined dedicating his days to nurturing the minds of the next generation of neglected students, doing his part to solder shut the school-to-prison pipeline. But since losing his job teaching arts and college prep at a local nonprofit in June, he's been struggling to find his way back into the classroom, all the while worrying about feeding his newborn daughter.
And then there's Charles Channon. A 25-year-old graduate of George Washington University, he dreamed that his postcollege days would be devoted to an onward-and-upward career with an international development firm--or at least a job with which to pay off $65,000 in college debt. "I wouldn't pretend that there's absolutely no conceit in me, but I do want to get out there and make the best difference I can," he said.
So much for youthful fantasies.
These are not happy days for America's young and striving. Indeed, as the economy has rocked and tumbled its way through 2009, spewing jobs like a sea-sick tourist, these have become very, very bad days. In September, the unemployment rate for people between the ages of 16 and 24 hovered morosely at 18.1 percent, nearly double the national average for that month. At the same time, the actual employment rate for 16- to 24-year-olds dropped to a startling 46 percent, the grimmest such figure on record since 1948, the year the government began keeping track. Taken together, this same group of young people has lost more than 2.5 million jobs since the economy began deflating in December 2007, roughly one-third of all the jobs lost, making them the hardest-hit age group of the recession.
And it gets bleaker. Bad as the youth unemployment numbers are, the underemployment numbers are even more distressing, with young people once again taking the hit. During the second quarter of 2009, for instance, the underemployment rate for workers under 25 was an alarming 31.9 percent; for workers between 25 and 34 the underemployment rate was 17.1 percent.
All of which suggests that for all this country's unbridled fascination with the glories of youth; for all the teen-lusting TV dramas, wunderkind "it" kids and peewee tech moguls, to say nothing of all the industries built on making the rest of us look and feel teen-queen young--being a member of today's youth explosion isn't a particularly enviable position after all.
"Young people under 30 have been far more affected than other groups in the economy during the recession," says Andrew Sum, professor of economics and director of the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University. "And the younger you are, the worse off you've been."
The reasons for this are multiple and complex, but perhaps the one that young people cite most is their desperate new job competition: adults twice their age with college degrees and decades of experience are now applying for entry-level positions. Moreover, those young people lucky enough to have found work often fall prey to the old "last hired, first fired" syndrome, putting them right back where they started. The result is that young people are not only working less than at any time since the Great Depression but could suffer the consequences deep into their individual and collective futures.
"These effects are long-lasting; they're not short and measly-lasting," explains Sum, citing several studies suggesting that a slow employment start can have long-term consequences. In the case of white male college graduates, for instance, an influential study showed that for as long as fifteen years after college, those who graduated into the recession-rocked economy of the early 1980s earned less than those who graduated into a sunny employment market. Equally disturbing: those who work only part time when younger, as so many young people must now do, see little benefit to their future wages compared with those working full time.
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Posted by: messedup on Nov 11, 2009 2:24 AM
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Posted by: Rusty Shackleford on Nov 11, 2009 4:38 AM
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I spent 4 years in high school, preparing for college. In that time, I took numerous college-credit classes. I participated in clubs (not because I wanted to, but because I know colleges like that crap). I even took Latin for 4 years (and a college credit class my senior year) instead of a conventional language like French, Spanish or German.
By the time I graduated, I had earned a 4.7 GPA, due to honors and AP classes, and most of my time in high school, I earned ABOVE a 4.0 average anyway.
Where did I go to after that to further my education?
The school of my dreams?
Nope. Down the street, at a community college, for two and a half long, hot years.
After that, I finally moved out of my town to another city, and finished up my Bachelor's Degree in History.
Upon graduation, I then moved over 2000 miles away to live with my wife, and her family.
Oh, did I mention that, this entire time, from high school, through college, up to this very moment, I have NEVER held a full time job?
Let me repeat that...
I have never held a full time job IN MY LIFE.
I've been living out here with my wife for 11 months now. Having to live in her bedroom at her parents' house because working as a substitute teacher, I can't afford rent anywhere. My work and my paychecks are too unreliable and I refuse to gamble what little of my savings are left, because I need that for the future.
It's not exactly fun to realize that you've been a college graduate for 11 months, and you've been looking for work in the same 40 mile radius for 18 months, and no matter how many applications you put in, no matter how many interviews you go to, you come up dry.
I consider it immoral to take more than you can afford, with the sole exceptions of buying a small house, or a small car, or paying for schooling, BUT ONLY if you have a job to pay those expenses back. For those kinds of things, who really has that much cash just laying around?
I need a teaching certificate, which is a good year of education and schooling beyond my B.A. But I refuse to do it until I have a full time job, with which to pay off that debt. So I'll be postponing my already postponed dreams just so I can find stable work before I do anything else.
Therefore, I refuse to go into debt, so long as I have a job as a substitute teacher, where I work one to one and a half days a week. I refuse to take out a credit card. I have never had a credit card in my life, and I don't ever plan to, no matter how bad things get.
My wife and I don't deal with negative numbers. We don't deal with "debt," unless we have a stable source of income to offset it. If you're wondering why SHE isn't employed, my wife is also my dependant, so I am the bread winner. We're both of the understanding that once my account reaches zero, we're done. Literally.
We never plan to have children. We never plan to have more than 1 car. We never plan to buy some gigantic, cookie-cutter McMansion in the suburbs. We DO want a custom built home, but it'll be extremely eco-friendly, and not very big. THAT, to us, is a worthwhile investment. We want our first house to be the one we grow old in. Not one we "fix up, then sell off, just to make the money."
I want to live in a country where I can be proud to be a citizen, and know that the country looks after its own, instead of having them graduate, throw them out without even a pat on the back as thanks for dedicating four years of your life (so far) to trying to better yourself. Now get out of our sight. But don't forget to donate to our Alumni association...
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Posted by: liberal avenger on Nov 11, 2009 5:51 AM
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Meanwhile, goldman and sachs are giving out 30 billion in bonuses this year.
Whoopie doo!
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Posted by: bizeeb on Nov 11, 2009 6:54 AM
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Posted by: Prinzowhales on Nov 11, 2009 8:46 AM
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Right now, the sky is the limit for you! Even with the excellent recruitment climate created by the Goldman Sachs' engineered depression and the overwhelming interest in a military career that has allowed the Masters of the Pentagram to meet and exceed our recruitment goals--we can still find a place for you! Just imagine yourself...on a midnight flight to Dover and having taps played as you arrive at your last permanent duty station in Arlington...
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Posted by: alongtheway on Nov 11, 2009 11:00 AM
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Posted by: willymack on Nov 11, 2009 1:44 PM
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What DID exist in those days was grossly polluting smokestack industries, and a solid belief in an ever-expanding population without end, with an expanding economy to go with it.
Only a fool would think this would last forever, or look back to those days with anything resembling nostalgia.
If we regain our industrial might, it must be CLEAN, ecologically friendly industry, aimed at cleaning up the world, recycling, and producing safe and clean energy WITHOUT producing any more CO2.
Don't let anybody tell you we can't do this. We can and MUST, if we're to have anything like a good life.
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Posted by: Lily H. on Nov 11, 2009 9:55 PM
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Is it just too expensive for both of you to be in the workforce?
Many years ago, I could have occupied your shoes (or your wife's) back in the 80's. If we could have lived with a set of parents, and waited to have children, we too, could have made it to some level of respectability. We also just wanted to own just ONE house, preferably one we could have just spent the rest of our lives in, not, as you say, some McMansion.
Unfortunately, we came from families who were only into themselves and had no belief system in helping other family members get ahead, no matter the motive.
All our oldsters wanted then was to "spend their children's inheritance" as evident by the oft-seen bumper stickers on the rears of RV's during the rah-rah, Me First 70's.
We were literally left to swing on a branch until our marriage ended by the early 90's. No more energy to keep up the pretense of trying to elevate ourselves from poverty. I hope you and your wife are able to reach most of your dreams. Good luck and God Bless...
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Posted by: sultan on Nov 11, 2009 10:39 PM
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Posted by: rugger on Nov 12, 2009 7:20 AM
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Males in general are avoiding the marketable college majors, most of them had delusions of making a fortune trading stocks on the internet, as opposed to taking the more difficult majors that required actual academic work. Women for their part are attending college as a higher percentage of the population compared to males.
I'm sure many of the recent unemplyed college graduates were encouraged by parents and guidance counselors to "follow their heart, do what you love", etc. Welcome to the real world. So if you graduated with a BS in history, liberal arts, relations, or any of the other fluff majors, you may want to reconsider and go back for something that will earn you a job and maybe a career.
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Posted by: eosrk on Nov 13, 2009 7:31 PM
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Posted by: deanx on Nov 16, 2009 2:33 AM
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The US leadership of these companies have all been sold the mantra of trans-nationalization. If production can be shifted to a cheaper foreign company, it should be. Wall Street will happy fork out the cash to make that happen, but will call you crazy if you want to upgrade your US facilities. They will gladly pump the existing equity out of your operations and replace it with Debt. ... it is the way Financiers 'Manage' businesses.
What is left is there is no US corporate production except for items too big to ship. Whats left is a few greying jobs for 50 y.o.s in Finance and Marketting. But None for young folk, and none for production.
What is America going to do in the 21st century? We can't make an entire society work only on waiting tables and styling hair?
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