After the Billionaires Plundered Alabama Town, Troops Were Called in ... Illegally

It won't be just Alabama. Look at the tax shortfalls in state, local government and schools ... And as jobs go away there will be fewer to pay ...

State Revenue Drops Most Since 1963

There is already a tax revolt brewing. People just can't afford to pay more. Expenses are going up while salary, wages and benefits are headed down.

Wall Street Banksters have looted just about every investment there is ... pensions, investments, 401Ks, bonds and commodities through leveraged betting that has nothing to do with productivity or investing but everything to do with fleecing America right down to the soles of our feet.

Yet, after their economic debacle they are right back in business USING TAX PAYER MONEY. After unsuccessfully trying to at least slow the banks down, Senator Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said about Congress ... "And they frankly own the place."

Indeed they do Own Congress. Alabamians would do well to unelect Senators Shelby and Sessions if they ever want to get their lives back.

Obama is supposed to have some "too big to fail" legislation this Monday ... We'll see ... He makes Bush look like a piker with his gifts to Wall Street ...

Excellent article Mark Ames ...

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I Live near Atlanta, Georgia, at Stone Mountain and poverty around here is bad enough, but Alabama has far worse overall poverty than my Georgia. Both Republican Senators for Alabama should be forced to resign for doing absolutely nothing to help their citizenry.

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griffiths was able to summarize the thoroughly discredited trickle-down theory neatly into a nutshell...

so, lemme ask y'all... how's that trickle-down theory workin' for ya, eh...? you feeling "greater prosperity"...? me neither...

And, yes, I DO take it personally

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I hope I am wrong on this, but watch this just released video and try to ignore the source since the trolls will jump on this viciously, but its the best summary of what is happening to the country and Alabama is like a war game.

This is what the rest of the country can expect once they finish globalizing and destroying our sovereignty and rule of law.

Notice everyone of the interviewees supports my contention that the left/right paradigm is dead and has been for a while. Its been used to distract us from the real criminals in this seriously massive crime being committed by the international bankers. I wish this had come out months ago.

Fall of the Republic

Also check this one out too which supports this video.

Death of the 'Soul of Capitalism'

Because this is a capitalist publication, it neglects to say we have moved into a fascist state now, but it does recognize that true capitalism has been dead for a while. The writer is a good one and even references and excellent book that I used to use as a Bible in some ways called "THE SEAT OF THE SOUL".

That told me a lot about the depth of this persons integrity and spiritual character which is rare lately in the fascist world we are coming into. This is what happens when you allow Psychopaths to run loose in society especially when they have money and power to implement their sickness globally.

You are going to have to seriously reconsider your options. The system as we have known it is just about dead and fighting back will not be an option if we don't do it soon. PLEASE WATCH THAT VIDEO BECAUSE IT TELLS YOU EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN ALAMBAMA IS GOING TO HAPPEN EVERYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY.

They will come into your home unannounced and with no warrant if they feel like it, you are and will be chattel they own. This is damn serious business and we have seen nothing like what is coming in the history of the world. It will make Nazi Germany look like a day in the park. That is how bad this can get.

The good news is the video has recommendations on how we can turn this around so please TAKE THE TIME and see it all the way to the end to know what we can do to stop it. THIS IS OUR LAST CHANCE.

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... I was riveted to hear the story of this town in Alabama, until this ignorant shit...

"(God, on the other hand, could go a long way toward proving Griffiths wrong by, say, planting a few tumor cells in his pancreas. Just sayin'.)"

Pointing out the billionaires hypocrisies in St. Paul's was enough. Just sayin'.

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Sandwiched between Turkey and Mexico, huh? I feel kind of foolish writing "sandwiched", as sandwiches are one of the few things we still make well (and domestically).

Thank your friends who have been drinking the GOP Kool-Aid for this nation's long ride into irrelevancy. The reverse RobinHoodism the Reaganites and Bushites have successfully sold as social and economic policy, the laissez-faire unregulated oligarchism and the tax-the-poor-and-coddle-the-rich transfer of wealth into the lofty echelons of the robber barons, have made us a land of the indentured and home of the cowards. No uprising against this system, just duck and take it? Or, as Limbaugh so drastically states (and Mr. Wrong is right on this one), bend over and grab your ankles?

For too many generations, we have believed what they taught us in grade school: this amalgam of aryan supremacy and god-given singularity. When sucked dry, the believer gets to see the guy behind the curtain. By then, it's too late.

Is it too late? Probably.

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is why people are revolting against taxes, when its the uber wealthy elites who are our real oppressors. One more example of how their completely owned and controlled MSM can focus so many of us on what would be a non issue, IF income we distributed to those who create it. I have noticed the US becoming more and more like a 3rd world country. So sad. Where is your rage people?? Time for the "French" solution

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Alabama residents should come as a large group and take a dump in the Goldman Sachs offices; preferably all over their offices.

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all this, is it?? If you have been paying attention you will find that the past 8 years under the Bush/Cheney crime family, our democratic republic has been gutted. There is nothing left but the shell. Oh Yes!!! There are still elections - but they are meaningless.

Obama rode in on the wings of change. We now find that those wings are the wings of Icarus, feathers and wax, rapidly melting in the flames of fascism. The heart and soul of the USA has been taken over by the banker barbarians and their wall street partners in crime.

Obama is continuing the policies of the Bush/Cheney crime family: no "light at the end of the tunner" in Iraq - now brazenly at war in Pakistan and Afghanistan - wars of conquest and exploitation. The only people who profit are the manuracturers of weapons of mass destruction and the purveyors of rocket propelled murder. And all this in our name.

Without a real revolution, of by and for the people, we will never see actual democracy revived. The corporations now control the security forces - and as a quick reading of the history of corporate use of murderous power in the USA will tell you, they have no compunction or compassion - but will kill you just as easily as one might swat a mosquito.

The history of people like the Morgans (JP Morgan Chase)is one drenched in blood.

So long America - it's been good to know you.

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Good work, Mr. Ames.

Alabama employees also had the nasty experience of being ripped off by HealthSouth, which handled self-insurance plans for numerous Southern corporations.

Pilgrim's Pride encouraged their subcontractors to take out loans and mortgages to expand chicken-house operations, then left them stranded when regional plants closed from their bankruptcy.

Both Georgia and Alabama, with their small-town minimum wage bases, have many entrepreneurs who literally shoveled shit to make a better living for their families, and now are looking at huge loan payments and no markets for the chickens they raise. Our county has several of these. I'd like to see Bo Pilgrim and his board of directors buried upside-down in a chicken house on a good hot Alabama afternoon.

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AND THE LIES

http://americaspeaksink.com/2009/07/lets-talk-about-race/

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This is one of the best summaries of what is happening to our country that I have ever read. I wonder what percentage of the population knows this is happening? More importantly, what can us peasants do about it?

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Unfortunately, it looks like our putative hero, Obama, has feet of clay, and, if not yet in bed with the corporate whore masters, is definitely dancing close, looking up and smiling sweetly while Americans at home lose those homes and Americans overseas die and die and die.

His fellow Senators and Representatives are still the pussies they always were. (No surprise there - I had very low expectations.)

The best definition of fascism I have heard is: A mutually beneficial, unrestrained conspiracy of the government, corporations, and the military to control the nation in a bellicose and expansionist environment for their mutual enhancement, empowered through fear and intimidation.

I hear the right wing bloviators like Hannity, Limbaugh and Beck ranting about class warfare. Sorry, assholes, but what we have now is mere class resentment. Actual class warfare is when we start killing fascists, not that I, a pacifist, would advocate such.

Don't scorn the Second Amendment, Democrats - we need it.

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There is no St. Paul's Cathedral in New York. Do you mean St. Paul's Chapel of Trinity Parish?

Also, there will always be inequality in any country. Nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is inequality accompanied by for-profit health care, medical bankruptcies, declining wages, homelessness, excessive hours of work, lack of healthy food, poverty, environmental degradation, a huge prison population, and a constant state of war designed to dominate the news and drive domestic issues from public discourse.

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How Mr. Ames managed to write this article without once mentioning the most critical aspect of his thesis-- the way our federal government winks at illegal immigration as well as maintains a legal immigration rate of one million a year--is a miracle of circumlocution.
Harvard's George Borjas has documented it as the biggest transfer of wealth in history, from USAmerican workers to the wealthiest Americans. And Alternet buys into it hook, line and sinker.
Every wonder why the Left has become irrelevant to working Americans?

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"Because Mexico and Turkey are the kinds of places where billionaires can plunder wealth and control the government without fear of too much resistance from an uppity middle class, disruptive unions and all those demands for "rights".
Well to all of you who still believe that government and their 'protective' agencies are here to protect you, when you allow these folks to get rid of the 2nd Amendment, then America will become places like Turkey and Mexico if it hasn't begun already. If you are still silly enough not to believe, look at the equipment and cooperation the police receive from the military; look at the role and function of policing in the US. Since the declaration of the war on drugs and more recently, with the enactment of the Patriot Act and the subsequent war on terror, the role of US policing has been primarily, to quell dissent. With Holder's Hate Bill looming in the background, and the recent demonstration of police power in Pittsburg, the First Amendment is gone. So continue to demand more gun control and the government will, in turn exert more control on your assess and herd you and your families into Club Fed aka FEMA camps..

FTW

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Whilst Turkey has suffered economically, through the loss of a major trading partner, due to the destruction of Iraq, I believe the quality of life for the poorest people in Turkey is much better than that for the poorest people in America.

I have twice travelled through rural Turkey, and have several Turkish friends who live in the UK, who often return to Turkey for several months.

There is extremely strong community in Turkey, and whilst poverty exists in terms of measurable GDP, much of this is illusory, because individuals within communities work together and trade together to ensure essential needs are met. Much of this real economy will not be measured.

Children play safely in the street without fear, and all members of the community will naturally protect them as if they are part of an extended family. Even the poorest of Turkish people are extremely welcoming, open and generous to people they have never met before, from completely different cultures.

In many of the poorest parts of the USA, European visitors are treated by the local police as if they are insane, if they dare to venture out on foot and walk. This simply is still not a problem in much of the "Third World". Many communities in rural parts live in almost exactly the same way as they have for thousands of years, and have virtually no contact or even knowledge of the corrupt West. The West can go to hell and collapse and nothing there will change, because such societies are self sustaining without outside interference or control.

Perception of Poverty is relative. If historically your community has always lived in much the same way, then you don't actually feel poor - its just normal. Moral values are considered far more important than material wealth.

What is far worse to contend and cope with, is a community that once had a high quality of life and is now getting poorer and poorer and descending to horrific violence and robbery. In some parts of the World such violence and robbery is almost unheard of.

Tony

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Remember, its the ILLEGAL'S whose taking our jobs and ripping off the system? Fact is, many dumb Americans are STILL DRINKING THE KOOL-AID! They want to blame everyone but themselves for being the a-holes, they are, that KEPT voting in the Repuke's, to RAPE and ROB their States Republican States! But NOW, its all President Obama's fault!

They just proved how much they despise poor & working class Americans of all races, especially WOMEN, by voting AGAINST an Anti-Rape Bill ... THANK GOD, its a Democratic Controlled Senate now, or else that Bill would have been VETOED or NEVER exposed, if Bush and Cheney was still in office!

I have little hope for our country, by the shear fact that the Limpballs, Hannity's, Becks of this country have MORE control over our media than good reporter's and journalist's. They are literally trying to instigate a RACE war in our country. Where they are getting these dummies to come out and fight AGAINST their best interest is just down right scary; they are saying, we RATHER eat dirt, no jobs, be homeless, with NO medical covergae then have a half white man as our president, and will go AGAINST any and everything that's GOOD for our country!


I want to BELIEVE that our Voting equipment is still being manlipulated, with great fraud going on, for I could not believe that almost 59 MILLION Americans voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin!

More frightening is that the Obama Admin and Eric Holder have not begun to address this serious problem, thereby making it VERY possible that the Republicans can STEAL their way BACK into office, since they STILL hold many important positions that will allow this corruption, to continue, through-out our states. I find it hard to believe that the MILLIONS of Americans SUFFERING today, without homes, jobs and healthcare, they could go to the polls, & vote these selfish, evil, greedy bastards back into, or into office EVER again.

I can't believe for ALL they are suffering, instead of realizing their LIVING & INCOME situations, then DRINK the kool-aid all over again; I find this MORE scary than the so-called Terrorist's of the Middle East!

Our media, and televison programs have DUMB DOWNED the American People; WHY many of them watch these dumb shows, is just mind boggling, let along, listening to the racism through-out our news & radio programs, for these shows are SEDUCING our children into drug addicts and SEX OBJECTS, and they wonder "what's wrong with our kids!"

I'm sorry, but my country are the Terrorist's of the World, not the Taliban in Afghanistan, Pakistan, or the Middle East! For they are being the Insurgents they should be, trying to RID Big Oil & Corporate America out of their country from stealing & murdering them to take over their Rich Natural Resources! For We know, if some foreign country tried to invade us, & TAKE OUR RESOURCES, they would have HELL to PAY! It's our AMERICAN GOVERNMENT, whose been BROUGHT OFF by Big Oil & Corp. America, via the American TAX PAYER'S, who are the TERRORIST'S of the World.

Our government TAKE our Tax Dollars, go around the World, STEAL, KILL and take what they want because of our tax dollars and low level troops! You can believe, if they had to spend their own money, & be on the front line, sacrificing their lives and limbs, there would NOT be any kind of INVASION or OCCUPATION going on! & here, they are FIGHTING, tooth and nail, to PREVENT ALL AMERICANS FROM HAVING UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, ON OUR DIME........... LORD, HELP US ALL!

Have you read the article whereby China was AWARDED a contract in Afghanistan to mine their UNMINED COPPER FIELDS? China has PAID $4 BILLION to do so; now tell me, why can't our government do the same?

President Obama, get our troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq; do the RIGHT THING, and PAY these Countries!

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Wow, what an article! And didja notice that the eviscerated areas are also the hotbeds of teabagger fury? I've been thinking of them as random drama-loving, confederate-flag-waving, ignorant born-again rednecks, but this piece provided a whole new perspective.

It's even sadder that their perfectly reasonable populist outrage has been subverted by the corporate astroturfing groups, and channeled into supporting the ultimate corporate goal, the neutering of what government is left.

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This is another precinct in Dupedom South, relied on by the Plutocratic Party (masked by the label Republican) for sending its Stooges to Congress and its Puppets to the White House.

The whole region is mostly a vast, dusty outback where ignorance is a tradition. It's a place where less than reliable flivvers festooned with old Bush-Cheney and McCain-Palin are everywhere to be seen. It's a place where the Dupes disrupt meetings, display signs with outrageous slogans, pound their chests and proudly dedicate themselves as patriotic Conservatives who are saving the Country from Them Communist-Socialist Libruls. Even worse, they are pathetically oblivious to the fact (a) that they are economically and politically fornicating themselves and the rest of us and (b) that the plutocrats and their media and political stooges are ecstatic over their success at fomenting all the chaos.

Meanwhile, the small number of rational, thoughtful persons in Dupedom South must be miserable with all this buffoonery surrounding them.

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I realized this country was in deep trouble when I admitted to myself that I've been enraged on a daily basis for at least a dozen years--starting with the Republicans spending $60 million trying to impeach Clinton for cigar sex. That money is now a drop in the bucket compared to what's been looted. I also see people--right and left--talking more about revolution and guns, but they are shooting the wrong people. They tend to kill their families, themselves, their immediate managers at work, instead of the CEOs, the lobbyists, and the corrupt politicians. However, as desperation grows, I predict you will see more violence even if the government tries to stop it. I have never seen so many comments on so many websites about armed revolt and it's making the government very nervous. Keep up the pressure. My new motto is, "Got Pitchfork?"

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Excerpt from a BBC News article, Oct 23, 2009:

A group of rich Germans has launched a petition calling for the government to make wealthy people pay higher taxes.

The group say they have more money than they need, and the extra revenue could fund economic and social programmes to aid Germany's economic recovery.

Germany could raise 100bn euros (£91bn) if the richest people paid a 5% wealth tax for two years, they say.

The petition has 44 signatories so far, and will be presented to newly re-elected Chancellor Angela Merkel.

The group say the financial crisis is leading to an increase in unemployment, poverty and social inequality.

Simply donating money to deal with the problems is not enough, they want a change in the whole approach.

Read the rest of the article here.

Something's definitelly wrong with Anglo-American water.

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"Now you can see why Alabamans are loading up on so many weapons. That makes sense. Now they need to understand who the real enemy is. Not the make-believe liberal bogeymen of their nightmares. Rather, Alabamans should focus their anger on the real-world billionaires who are making this country a living hell."

I'm thinking . . . yeah right. Sure they won't focus on the liberal bogeymen.

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...and listen to the wind as it whistles in one ear and out the other.

When Americans stop being serf-minded scum and voting for the Demopublican agents of the banks--at every level--then you will have change.

TROOPS HOME NOW! EXPROPRIATE WALL STREET! CANCEL THE DEBT! DESTROY THE FED! Its a start...

And stop favoring the dirtbag Capitalists with tax expenditures--rewrite the tax code...a single flat tax with absolutely no exemptions or tax expenditures on gross incomes.

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Nearly two decades ago, I had a client who was doing a paper the the local university and shared it with me. His basis for the paper was that the rich and corporations were embarked on a vast program to cause the "Latin-Americanization of the United States", where the wealth is systematically transferred to the the upper class, the middle class is decimated - denied realistic increases in wages, systematically looted of wealth and driven into the ranks of the poor. The huge underclass of poor people thus created would be forced to fight for subsistence and below subsistence incomes, while the rich make huge expansions in their already accomplished domination of income and resources...mimicking the already existing economic model seen in Mexico and other Latin countries. In essence, the idea was to return to the old feudal system of obscenely wealthy lords dominating a world where the serfs took what crumbs the lords allowed them.

Take a look around folks! We're well along that path - and the actions of our "elected representatives" are mostly to continue to create conditions that serve the rich and corporations in attaining their goal...either unwittingly, or with full knowledge of what they are trying to accomplish.

Cutting taxes for the rich and corporations, holding down wages, bailing out the ultra rich and corporations without any requirements that they change their behavior, rewarding companies with tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas, working to deny real health care reform while tens of thousands of Americans die from lack of adequate health care...it's all part of the pattern.

When will we finally say "Enough!"?

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the working-class and middle-class people who were lapping it up should've asked themselves, "wait - how many people can you actually place on top of a hill?"

This is the inevitable result. Sometimes it sucks to be right.

#@!

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...as every New York City denizen knows.

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"Now they need to understand who the real enemy is. Not the make-believe liberal bogeymen of their nightmares. Rather, Alabamans should focus their anger on the real-world billionaires who are making this country a living hell."

Maybe they're getting what they deserve. This place has some of the most ignorant, selfish, cruel, stupid, wasteful, and greedy people on the planet. Look at the politicians these people elect. I've been here for years and it's sick. We're the "drill baby drill" people! We're the "taxes are evil" people that vote to cut rich peoples taxes while being forced to pay more ourselves. We quote limbaugh as if he is omniscient. We're always looking to screw someone else thinking it will never happen to us. We love pollution. The majority of us are fucking sadistic!
As long as we can have our gas guzzlers, football, fried food, and beer we could care less about anyone else.

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Communism is a stateless, classless society. What we have now is the polar opposite. The banksters' puppet government only socialized the LOSSES. The benefits were PRIVATIZED.

Can you say FASCISM?

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We met our Daughter at University yesterday - and met her friends, and she eventually let out a bit of a bombshell. Well she thought we would strongly disapprove...

And we Both Said That is BRILLIANT..

She has Changed The Content of Half Of Her 3 Year Degree Course - and I Was Amazed That She Was Allowed To Do So...

But It's a Brilliant University at One of The Most AMAZINGLY BEAUTIFUL Locations in England...

I Did Say - She Has No Fear...

I Reckon She Has Decided That She Just Has To Be On The Prosecution Case.

She Hasn't Given Up Hope.

She Knows The Evidence Has To Be Found To Contruct a Case Against These War Criminals amd To Take Them To Trial...

My Confidence in The English Legal System Has Recently Risen Dramatically...

It Seems The Judges Will No Longer Be Bought By Politicians and Rich Elites and Can't Wait To Get Their Teeth Into The REAL CRIMINALS

My Daughter Will Be Supporting Them

We Have Nothing If We Don't Have Justice

Tony

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Everything that "capitalist" (the rich and super rich) does is aimed at further impoverishing a broken and destitute people. It is for this reason that the French in 1789 turned to a revolution and righteously beheaded the wealthy and noblity. It is for this reason that the Russian people overthrew the Czar and his corrupt family in 1917, and the conniving emperor of China was cast into prison in the struggle for equality. Outside of Bill Gates, I cannot think of one millionaire/billionaire worth a leaf from a dying tree, and that the military supports these demented dwarfs is an insult to democracy. They control the GOP through their money and their religions, and all should go. They show no one mercy, and like the most nefarious Wells Fargo Bank and Bank of America, they will cast people out of their home, rob them blind, and stomp on the right to adequate health care. I would not shed one tear if every person who had one or more million dollars were vaporized and the nation left to those who actually work.

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When those poor bastards in the southern states continue to elect corrupt officials who are basically corporate shills, then I have little to no sympathy for them.

The Southern States are consistently among the most impoverished, poorly-educated, ill-equipped, financially downtrodden states in the country, and they continue to elect conservative assholes who spew the same lines about limited government, god, guns and gays.

When you have income inequality that is THAT great, then you don't continue to elect the same type of representative.

When you have corporations like WalMart that got their START in the southern state of Arkansas, and your state has gone downhill ever since, then you don't continue to elect the "do-nothings."

When you sacrifice hard work, diligence, direct democracy, and cooperation for convenience, laziness, representative government, and competition (aka corporate welfare), then you don't deserve to call yourselves civilized.

Southerners are simply perpetuating their own negative stereotype about being ignorant, racist, bigoted hicks who want the government to stay out of the affairs of the people, even though they don't realize that by doing that, the government simply stays out of the way of the corporations.

Wake up. You want a country where the government doesn't interfere with businesses? You're living in one right now.

When you look north of the border or across the pond and see people over there making due with less, but also having so much more (healthcare, benefits, retirement, better education, vacation time, etc), you can't help but think "maybe we're doing something wrong with all this talk of free markets and convenient stores like WalMart. Maybe we should buckle down and study, as it were."

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...a president of the United States actually said these words:

"Distinctions in society will always exist under every just government. Equality of talents, of educationi, or of wealth cannot be produced by human institutions. In the full enjoyment of the gifts of Heaven and the fruiets of superior industry, economy, and virtue, every man is equally entitled to protection by law; but when the laws undertake to add to these natural and just advantages artificial distinctins, to grant titles, gratuities, and exclusive privileges, to make the rich richer and the potent more powerful, the humble members of society--the farmers, mechanics, and laborers--who have neither the time nor the emasn of securing the favors to themselves, have a right to complain of the injustice of their Government. Therer are no necessary evils in government. Its eveils exist only in its abuses. If it would confine itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its favors alike on the high and the low, the rich and the poor, it would be an unqualified blessing."

With these words to Congress, President Andrew Jackson vetoed the renewal of the Second Bank of the United States' charter.

Now, compare this to what that loathsome sack of Goldman Sacks' droppings, O'bomb'em, did for the banks 170-some years later. Just prior to this veto Old Hickory vetoed a resolution for a day of prayer over a cholera epidemic because of his view that it violated the sense of separation of Church and State.

Electing the butt-licking Demopublican dogs of the bankers doesn't seem to be working out very well of these United States, does it?

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i keep repeating this line:
its time to crush our corporate leaders until their bones break and their bodies bleed.

while they're busy with that we start a system that includes health care for all and quality education for all, k through graduate school, and a healthy environment so we can breath clean air and drink clean water, etc. screw big capitalism, when did it ever really care for the citizens of any country? never. on a small level it can work but once it gets to big its just rape and burn, anything to make a profit.

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So how come these same people overwhelmingly elect republicans? Who can protect them with law enforcement? How come we haven't? Because the Republicans insist on archaic regulation of business, pointing at Main St Alabama, and then apply a law for Main Street, under the supposed guise of something unlike Equal Protection of the Laws, use those laws to govern Wall St.
It's a nasty business, but what prevails is based on something else entirely unrelated and the existence of which is vehemently denied.

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Not at all like the places where Nixon, Reagan and two Bushies were hatched. If the South is as bad as you say, we can only imagine what demented hell holes these places are...

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This was coming at least since the idiocy of the so-called "Patriot Act", designed more to restrict citizens' movements that to intercept terrorists.

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Welcome to the Gettho

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that we simply ignore all comments from GuitarBill. His comments are usually personal insults and disrespectful of others opinions.
To respond only gives encouragement. This site is for civilized debate. I don't care if someone disagrees with me, but I do care that it is disagreement with the issue and not a personal insult. I have blocked him now, and I suggest others do the same or simply don't respond. AlterNet guidelines state that no personal attacks will be tolerated; if the editors won't ban him, perhaps we should by ignoring his every comment. He has the right to post, but we don't have to partake of his trolling by responding. Just sayin'....

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About the Great Regan....If he was so great why Bush Sr. fired all his crew the first day he took office in 1988?

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On Her Face Looking Like a Sunflower in Full Bloom

And She is Open and Receptive to all the problems.

Most from our friends but also from people She has never met in her life...

And I am just watching what she does and how so incredibly nice she is to people..

And then I take My Wife Home

And Can't Believe How Lucky I Am

Tony

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I bet if you look at the voting trends from these regions you'll find they voted heavily for the GOP bastards that have enabled their downfall.

So I don't pity them one bit. They made their choices at the voting booth. Guns, God, and Gays were their priorities.

They are getting EXACTLY what they deserve for being so willfully ignorant. They are getting exactly what their "family values" politicians wanted.

Are you idiots sorry yet?

Maybe you shouldn't have been distracted about what same-sex couples were doing in their private bedrooms.

Maybe you shouldn't have been distracted about what a woman does with HER body.

Maybe you shouldn't have been distracted about who can have a gun, or machine gun.

But you were.

You were too ignorant to realize you were being played. And now the hens have come home to roost.

Sucks for you.

Too bad you didn't pull your head out of your FOX "news" ass and vote to protect your job, health care and retirement.

Too bad you voted over and over again to protect your guns, your "Christian Nation" and your "traditional marriage."

You ignorant asses. This is a nation of people and the power comes from the people not some fairy being "god." Read the Constitution.

Our founding fathers EXPLICITLY stated the US is NOT a "Christian" nation. So stop it!

See the treaty with Tripoli from 1796. It says it black and white. Article Eleven:

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

That was signed by President John Adams. That would be one of our founding fathers.

Too bad you voted to keep racist, corporate thugs in office. I hope you're happy.

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Do we need to hang the corporate vampires with?
How much more abuse are we going to take before we snap?
Are we going to wait until there's nothing left for them to steal?
Is that it?

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Whilst I admit Us English Have Been Complete and Utter Cunts in Controlling The World...

When it Came To Cooking People in Pots...

We Drew The Line...

We Said NO You Can Not Cook Human Beings in Pots And Eat Them

But The Americans said Why Not?

We Can Outsource It To Uzbekistan

And Put The Protein Into McDonalds Beef Burgers...

Craig Murray Said No

That is Not Acceptable

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/

Tony

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we all have to unite to stop the rise of corporate-state fascism in the US.
Read this article about Tea Party people and others uniting to fight the main enemy, wall street, the rich, and the politicians they put in office with contributions. many corporations contribute hug amount to the dem and GOP candidate, because they will then OWN both of them.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/21562477/
a version for printing out and copying to give out to people to spread it around:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/21570661

the south always gets screwed over the hardest! blacks and whites unite to fight the bosses and government!

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One of these days/daze... an Amerikan $uicide bomber is going to wheel 50 pounds of $emtex explosives into the lobby of Goldman $achs... and send those banksters (and surrounding buildings) to the moon.

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This does not bode well for our "democracy". Combine the Patriot Act with some sudden circumstance, and any American town could be under marshall law and patrolled by military forces. Suppose that the upcoming swine flu curve got a lot worse than we expected. Or say California suffered an earthquake of major proportions. What's distressing here is that the commander of the local installation said "yes" to the request for assistance. He should have said "no". Mutual aid should come from neighboring jurisdictions, other Sheriffs departments or other city police departments. Not troops. I doubt a state of emergency existed there. Certainly it was a terrible situation, tragic and wretched. But worthy of troops? For what amounts to traffic control? But don't worry, we can all focus on balloon boy and John & Kate & The Litter of Eight. You know, more important things. Things that matter!

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This is outrageous.... and with this country going into trillions in dollars in debt, banks giving their executives huge bonuses for bad business... savings interest rates have been at their lowest for years and every time the minimum wage goes up people loose their jobs, the cost of living goes up, and yet every time a social program is voted in companies go bankrupt and more jobs go to other countries.
This seems to be a pattern that has been taking place since NAFTA was approved... I guess Ross Perro was right... a giant sucking sound is being heard all over this nation.
Then we have CAFTA and the Security and Prosperity Partnership with Canada and Mexico, the Trans Texas Corridor and the superhighway from Mexico up to Kansas City with Mexican truck drivers... a brand new port is being built in Mexico to take in the super tankers with China's goods to bring in to the US...
Ever since Pres. George Bush Senior was in office we have been on a course for a One World govt with a one world economy. The redistribution of the wealth of this nation to other countries and making this great nation a third world country. Read the Kyoto Protocol from 1998 at the Rio Summit... It is all spelled out.
Pres. Bill Clinton and the President's council on Sustainability is one of the instruments for locking up all of the natural resources of today for future generations. This too comes from the Rio Summit.
The UN treaties should be studied by each and every one of us... These treaties are designed to take away the rights set forth in our Bill of Rights and make the Constitution a worthless piece of paper. The Law of the Sea Treaty, the treaty for Cap and Trade, ( that should get you dander up and will keep you up at nights after you read that) the Kyoto Protocols are on the UN's website, check them out and enlighten yourself on what is really happening here...
George Bush Jr., carried on where his father and Bill Clinton left off, implementing the Patriot Act and now that Pres. Obama is in office, our debt is tripled if not more and he is a citizen of the world... does that mean to say that he is a one worlder too? A globalist?
Well so am I but I'm a United States citizen first.... the sovereignty of this great nation is at risk, and we the people of this nation no matter what our religion, our ethnic background need to scrutinize what we're being told by the media... and dig deeper, demand accountability from our elected officials.
Anyone ever question why Henry Paulson stepped down from being the CEO of Goldman Sachs and accepted the position of being the Secretary for the US Treasury?
History shows us that printing more money only makes the value of the dollar less. I seem to remember hearing that in Germany right before the war that people pushing wheelbarrows full of money to the market to try and buy a loaf of bread but couldn't because the money was worthless.
The Republicans and Democrats it seems are almost the same... they say what ever it takes to get into office and then not much changes.

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I am no friend of corporate America and I am definitely not defending Pilgrim's Pride, but federal troops have often been called in to various cities, including in Alabama during various civil rights actions.

How was the military or anybody else to know the reasons why someone was shooting up a rural Alabama area? I wonder how strongly this same author would oppose Attorney General Robert Kennedy sending in federal troops during the various Civil Rights altercations in Alabama in the 60's.

One can't pretend to be a liberal and then go around picking and choosing when and when not federal troops can show up. Either they can never show up or, they have a right to show up when things get out of control for local law enforcement to adequately handle or, as in the case of Birmingham and Selma, local law enforcement is a significant part of the problem.

You can't have it both ways and, how is any military commander or soldier on the ground supposed to know the motives at the time for why someone is going around executing people seemingly at random for no apparent reason?

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Looks like private-school-raised, Berkeley-educated Mark Ames has refrained from calling rural Alabamans toothless retarded inbred Christian rednecks long enough to pretend he suddenly cares about their plight. Its fun for children of privilege to play Communist Toy Soldiers with a part of the world they've never had to experience.

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A Censored Headline and why it Matters: German High Court Outlaws Electronic Voting
The justices above are clearly the most rational group of high level functionaries in the industrialized world. They did what no other court would do in Europe or the United States. They effectively outlawed electronic voting. On March 3, 2009, the German Federal Constitutional Court declared that the electronic voting machines used in the 2005 Bundestag elections for the German national parliament were outside of the bounds of the German Constitution.

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OMGosh dude that is just downright scary when you think about it!

RT
Ultimate Anonymity

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USING THE MILITARY ON OUR SOIL AGAINST OUR CITIZENS IS ILLEGAL. AFTER TENS OF THOUSANDS LOSE THEIR JOBS, WITH NO SAFETY NETS AND SUPPORT SYSTEMS, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO ROLL OVER AND PLAY DEAD? WHEN WILL YOU, PRESIDENT OBAMA, STEP IN AND BE A REAL PRESIDENT AND PROTECT MAIN ST FROM CORPORATE ABUSE? We need a leader like LBJ, or FDR or Teddy. This is only the beginning of this kind of abuse toward us. I'm waitng for the drones next. They will fill our prisons with jobless, homeless people who are fighting for their lives and families. Will Obama let this happen? If Obama does not do more to protect us, I will not vote for him again. We are in a Depression and he is looking a lot more like Grover Cleveland. I am angry as hell - NPR just had a progam about all the people, many with outstanding credentials, who can't get jobs - we can no longer accept hundreds of billions for illegal wars for profit using our tax dollars and trillions stolen by Wall St and a broken health care system, while we are left to die in the gutter with no support systems or safety nets. We need to vote for more like rep Kaptur, Grayson and Sanders. It's the person you want to choose and what they stand for. People who care about us and work for us!!!

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It makes me indignant how the "Third World" is used as a mere rhetorical tool, vast and unwarranted generalisations made about Third-World politics, etc. All you references to what goes on in the "3W" are nonsense. I am a development economist and have lived in almost a dozen 3W countries. I am astonished at their variety. Just because they have the same low income per capita doesn't make them a faceless mass. You shouldn't use them as cannon-fodder for your internal disputes.

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< One of the creepiest details to emerge in the shooting rampage were reports that troops from nearby Fort Rucker were brought into Samson and other surrounding areas to patrol the streets. This is a clear violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, every freedom-loving American's worst nightmare. >

I'm a big fan of Mark Ames & his on-line web-zine, ExiledOnline.com, but here he gets a little breathless (hysterical); it all depends on WHO and HOW you define "every freedom-loving American."

Because the flag-waving, cheering, determined Southerners who poured out into the streets of Southern cities and enlisted during the "fire-eating" days immediately preceeding the Civil War and various state's declarations of secession would ALL tell you that THEY supported "freedom" - even as they fought to maintain an economy and society based on ruthles, mass-murderous slavery.

(And the FOMENTING of OVERSEAS WARS - slave raids in Africa - to supply the chattel "property" to provide labor for that dreadful system.)

Michael Lind's amazing book,
"Made in Texas: George W. Bush and the SOUTHERN TAKEOVER of American Society"
explains the psychological & ideological undercurrents of this ruthless, conformist, hierarchical, intolerant, violent, theocratic, MILITARIST societal system; a system that puts "the Warrior" at the apex of society (just as medieval, and more modern societies have done, for example WII Japan & Nazi Germany)... and regard peace-time as a mere prelude to the next conflict/conquest/wartime expansion to keep the ever determined warrior class leaders & armies busy.

This ideology is so prevalent, that I would suggest that the answer to Thomas Frank's question, "What's the Matter With Kansas?"
http://whatsthematterwithkansas.com/
would be that the relentless, right-wing corporate financed jihad to EXPLOIT American's INSECURITIES about economic, financial, race, and foreign policy issues, in terms of RACIAL RESENTMENT... should simply be called "the Confederate Soldier syndrome."

Rush Limbaugh is a master at appealing to the resentments and insecurities of his listeners, while sounding like a reassuring, friend-to-be-trusted - even as he advocates policies (OUTSOURCING the _AMERICAN JOBS_ of his listeners... TO COMMUNIST CHINA!) that DESTROY their own financial, social, and economic security. And of course Limbaugh fancies himself a champion of the Confederate ideals, when "everyone knew their place" - or else!

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Is Mark Ames still in Russia? Has he ever been to Alabama? He previously wrote about the NIU environment as the worst ever as in some way trying to excuse the student shootings there. It's a bit of a stretch to compare 'directing traffic' to a military occupation but what about all of the other details? I could write something about Russia but unless I'm there with boots on the ground, so to speak, you might conclude that my writing is somewhat illusionary. On the other hand, if this is an example of some new 'business model', then, I guess with time, we'll see more of the same. It won't then be just the dumb "South", or the dumb "Midwest", or the dumb "Coasties" or the dumb "Sunbelt", it's all of us in the same boat. So where in the world is Mark Ames?

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What do you expect from a company whose official business it was to exploit chickens? Eventually the employees start looking like chickens too. In fact, an industrial chicken farm is a pretty good metaphor for the society that the investor class is creating for us.

Industrialization industrializes everything in its path - including us. Not content to merely industrialize the manufacture of inanimate objects, living creatures are industrialized in the form of factory farming. Nor does it stop at food animals. Industrialization next sets its sights on us. As it turns out, the consumer is also a product, manufactured by a different industry - an industry of manufacturing vacuous wants and specious needs. Industrialization brings buyer and supplier together, and then proceeds to industrialize both.

Quantity is king. The quantity of products must be increased, the quantity of consumers must be increased (why do you think that overpopulation is a taboo subject that the mainstream media dare not touch?), the quantity of consumption per consumer must be increased, and the quantity of production per consumer must be increased. We have, ourselves, become farm animals in the sweatshop of life.

The only quality that matters in this demented system is the quality of the product from the narrow - and media crippled - perspective of the consumer of the product. And the more that that perspective can be forcibly narrowed, the greater the quantity that can be produced. If the meat tastes good, the life experience of the factory farm animal is irrelevant. It's simply not a factor in the cold equation. Similarly, if the consumer spends well, then the life experience of the consumer animal is irrelevant. Quality of life is a quaint and indulgent concern in a highly tuned industrialized system.

But, is this system then merely a beast run amok, that has come to now only serve itself? Well, almost. With all that displacement of quality, where does all that displaced quality of life go? Quality and quantity are often inversely proportional. Implicit in flooding a space with quantity is the displacement from that space of quality. The beast harvests upwards, starting from the lowest levels of the most vulnerable and most easily exploited, and over time creates an ever growing disparity between the ultra rich and the impoverished - an ever increasing concentration of wealth and high standard of living at the upper echelons. Quality is essentially being harvested, giving rise to a monopoly on quality.

Starting from the lowest levels, many people participate in the creation of the beast, all in exchange for the vain hope of moving upwards to the next level and a better existence. Some will manage to cling on for long enough to make it up, while the less fortunate majority will be shaken loose, to fall into the churning masses down below who are left behind to fight it out amongst themselves at the trough of the lower level. But, despite the temporary reprieve for those who make it higher, all are ultimately betrayed - as the beast turns out to have no loyalty to those who have served it and participated in its rise. Ultimately, even, the concentration of evil at the top - the super wealthy, themselves - will be industrialized by the machine.

Ultimately, this giant machine will make other small machines that will serve its interests better than man, and man will be destroyed - a fitting fate for a species that has perpetrated the extermination of so many other species. Embrace the singularity!

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For a lot of Americans, the sight of troops occupying their towns is their worst nightmare come true

I think most Americans have FAR more to have worse nightmares than some MPs from the local Military Base coming to help out in a time of crisis involving shooters on a rampage. In fact, I think most Americans would prefer to see the Military help out briefly in such a circumstance instead of peer out of their fort while a community suffers.

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" "People want to kill somebody, but they don't know who to shoot at," says Russell Cunningham, past president of the Birmingham Regional Chamber of Commerce."

They 'don't know who to shoot at' because 'they' in this case are associated with the Chamber of Commerce, who are boot-in-stirup behind everything the Rich Reich do to kill off the workers and enrich themselves. The workers at least OUGHT to know who to shoot at. Clue: it's NOT their just-as-exploited co-workers.

It should be obvious, but our emotional and lifestyle investment in our present situations make it very difficult for us to acknowledge that our bosses are the ones stealing us blind. We "all" wanted to believe it, when Reagan sold us on "trickle down," but somehow we've maintained an unhealthy respect for Reagan himself, when so much of what he did was so wrong -- and BAD FOR US! When people care so much about money that everything they do, they do to make themselves rich, then they are not about to "be nice" to their workers unless they are forced to. Instead, they take active measures to make sure that no do-good unions crop up to 'steal' 'their' profits.

But Americans in general have a block against recognizing that the rich are stealing our money to support the over-the-top lifestyles they've gotten used to. We all want to be rich ourselves in this culture, and when (note that we hardly ever say "if") we get rich, we don't want others to nose in, telling us what we can and can't do with 'our' money -- despite more evidence every day, that it's the WORKERS who make the money, and the owners who efficiently skim it off. So when we hear of abuses of workers by the rich, we think, "There, but for the grace of God, go I." (note that being a Christian helps one to buy this lie).

And since it's so easy for us to see ourselves in the shoes of the Rich, we continue to insist that nothing be done to reign in their abuses -- just in case (a condition we see as inevitable, rather than vanishingly unlikely) we somehow, against all the odds, find ourselves someday with a domestic empire of our own to protect.

So, to review: Americans have the idea that they could someday be rich. They want, "when" that happens, to be able to just run with the money and ignore the "niceties," so they don't want laws or custom to "interfere" with thier own irresponsible aspiration. Therefore, they won't get behind any action that might constrain the options of those who have money.

This might actually be a good philosophy, IF people lived forever, AND had an equal chance to get rich. As it is, the richer you are, the more unlikely it is that others will get rich, because -- wait for it -- making sure that no one else gets the same chances is what keeps the money where it "belongs" -- in your own pockets! As the rich get rich, they start working to ensure that others cannot follow them there -- because with everyone equally rich, money would again lose its meaning.

The Rich NEED the current inequity of income -- in order to ensure that the have-nots continue to treat the haves like the gods they imagine themselves to be. And -- surprise! -- its the Rich who have the resources to ensure that the current system persists.

The only real cure for such a state of affairs is a revolution by the workers -- either within the law, or outside of it. No wonder the Reich Media is so quick to see and label "socialists" and "communists," whenever anyone points out the glaring discrepancies we all live with.

But take it from me and Marx: If you just sit there and do nothing about this, because you have the delusion that one day you too will be Rich, then you have only yourself and your delusions to blame.

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Those removed from jobs in closed plants should take them over and run them as co-operatives. They still have knowledge, if they haven't removed the machinery, show up and make it work for you.

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is well known all over the Universe.

1943 berlin
jewish husbands of german wives were arrested and placed in the policestation ROSENSTRASSE. The wives went to demonstrate

soldiers got the order to shoot the women. THEY REFUSED.

If american soldiers are in a simular situation, how would thy act????????????e

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I personally would not blame any citizen from arming and in fact I would recommend it. What the army has done in this instance was not a mistake but is a way of getting the public used to seeing them on their streets and that way when they are more liberally deployed the population will not get spooked and will be much easier to handle and suppress.

The time to arm is here. If our military is stupid enough to follow foolish orders than they are also just stupid enough to kill us.

Don't end up a statistic be prepared to defend both yourself, your family and your country from these losers on Wall Street and their lap dogs in Washington.

If they plan to take our country from us at least make them work for it, don't just get on the trains.

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Where are people learning there economics? How can you point the finger at greedy corporations and bankers and call it "socialism"? this paranoia over a global socialist order is retarded. Its called capitalism when a few of the wealthy use there wealth to get more wealth. The national socialists of nazi germany were hardly socialist, it was just capitalism takin to the next level, which is what we see going on here. Lets not let a couple of totalitarian socialist countries make us forget about the centuries of capitalist tyranny that preceded them.Free market capitalism would be O.K. if one was limited to reasonable,justifiable claims to property,like you cant own more than you can work with your own two hands.No more wage slavery, no more gambling with the countries money-direct worker control of businesses and resources-if you want to go it alone, go it alone, if you want to collectively(democratically)run companies, do it that way. We dont need the government to run the economy any more than we need a handful of rich people running things (as far as I'm concerned its the same thing)but as long as we have a handful of people controlling 95% of the wealth capitalism will do what its always done, empower a few over the many.These companies that are going out of business arent unprofitable, they are not profitable enough for billionaires to gamble recklessly with, but if the workers controlled them they'd all still have jobs,with raises and decent medical to boot.

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if the empire hates him so much, he must be on to something. We prop up our biggest coke supplier, in order to attack and harrass the one country that is showing that a better way is possible. i mean come on, his programs have eliminated illiteracy in a country where it hovered at close to 80% . and gave healthcare to everyone. we in the high and mighty u.s. of a. can't do that. free college education, and the use of national resources for the benefits of the nation.....he's just got to be evil..but if you look at the msm you'd think he was trying to kill all the jews and white people in venezeula,invade columbia,and eliminate israel and the united states from the pages of history..... get a clue people, get a freakin' clue

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