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Wall Street Plans to Tap into $26 Trillion Life Insurance Market, Cashing in When People Die

The bankers who brought us the disaster of 2008 have created a new financial instrument called "life settlements" -- call it morbid capitalism.
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Halloween is still a month away, but ghouls, ghosts and other grotesque creatures are already roaming America's streets, possibly preparing to knock at your door. What makes them so scream-out-loud horrifying is that they are the newly issued spawn of -- shriek! -- Wall Street.

The very same greed-fueled bankers who brought us the disaster of 2008's financial crash have created another exotic financial horror to replace their securitized subprime-mortgage packages that exploded all over us.

Wall Street wizards have been down in their corporate basements working furtively to fabricate some new, get-rich-quick financial gimmick, and -- Holy Frankenstein! -- they've done it.

It's a scheme based on the mundane (but huge) life insurance market. Wall Street intends to tap into the $26 trillion-worth of life insurance policies that Americans hold, using a financial mechanism called "life settlements."

Often, the ill and elderly need cash for assisted living or myriad other reasons, and a small network of insurance brokers exists to offer them a sizeable pile of money in exchange for being named the beneficiary of the policy. A broker might pay $400,000 for a million-dollar policy.

Wall Streeters intend to turn these life settlements into a big boon for investment banks and super-rich speculators. First, they will take over the broker side of the business, setting up extensive networks of heavily advertised, life-settlement agencies across the country to entice sick and old folks into settlements. You can imagine the come-ons: "Free Cash!" "Cash-in BEFORE You Die!" "You CAN Cheat Death!"

Next, Wall Street banks will "securitize" these settlements -- i.e., they will package thousands of them into bonds that they'll then sell (for hefty fees) to big investors around the globe. As a result, when Uncle Bob croaks in Dubuque, some speculator in Dubai will collect Bob's life insurance payout.

Drooling bankers anticipate a $500 billion market for this hustle. Even as Washington discusses ways to regulate Wall Street's earlier frenzied securitization lunacy, the giant banks are working themselves into this next frenzy. As one giddily exclaimed, "We're hoping to get a herd stampeding."

The New York Times reports that Credit Suisse is already shouting yippy-ti-yi-yo, "building a financial assembly line to buy large numbers of life insurance policies, package and resell them -- just as Wall Street did with subprime securities." Similarly, reports the Times, "Goldman Sachs has developed a tradable index of life settlements, enabling investors to bet on whether people will live longer than expected or die sooner than planned."

While this game of grave-robbing for fun and profit is exhilarating for the investing elite, it will be a downer for life insurance customers, for it means that the price of policies will go up. This is because insurance companies base their price on the actuarial calculation that numerous policyholders will pay premiums for years, but then cancel their policies before they die (due to personal financial reasons, family breakups, etc.). In these cases, the insurers collect a wealth of premiums without having to pay out a dime.

But this calculation is to be wrecked by Wall Street's intrusion into the once-straightforward relationship between insurer and insured. Now, some faraway, third-party investor will own the policy, keeping it in force until the former policyholder dies. Thus, the company will make more payouts than it figured to, compelling them to recalculate their balance sheets -- and jack up life insurance prices.

Once again, Wall Street is turning a pedestrian consumer product into a global casino game. Consumers lose, while speculators gain from exploiting other people's hardships, eventually reaping profits from their deaths.

Why should we go along with this real-life Halloween horror? As suggested by Forbes magazine columnist Michael Maiello, Congress could and should implement a simple reform stating that there's no payout on any life insurance policy that is "transferred into an investable security."

This would still allow life settlements for the relatively few people who actually need them -- but it would drive a stake in the cold hearts of Wall Street profiteers. What a happy Halloween that would be!

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Jim Hightower is a national radio commentator, writer, public speaker, and author of the new book, "Swim Against the Current: Even a Dead Fish Can Go With the Flow." (Wiley, March 2008) He publishes the monthly "Hightower Lowdown," co-edited by Phillip Frazer.
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Conflict of Interest!
Posted by: jonraabe on Oct 2, 2009 12:50 AM   
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If you lay this story over the existing argument to offer health insurance to people, you notice that bankers, (now flush with free cash form governments and totally unwilling to lend it), will now be hoping you die as soon as possible and will lobby to keep healthcare away form people as it would keep people alive longer. I think a new law should be in order that forbids 3rd party profits form somebody's death. Its amazing what bankers will do to make money...

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Destroy everything for profit.
Posted by: kedikat on Oct 2, 2009 1:39 AM   
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Any useful, profitable venture will eventually be destroyed by the folks who do nothing but shift around money for a living.

They are mindless parasites that will kill their host by sucking the life out of it, then move on to the next healthy victim.

They produce nothing. They simply profit by skimming, reselling and gambling. They do not represent capitalism. They are the bane of capitalism. Continually draining it, crippling and deforming it.

They have perfected the most successful parasites maneuver. Taking over the very mind of the host. Controlling it. Even to the hosts systems of defense.

The parasites are now capitalism. We are merely the hosts.

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Caesar777
Posted by: Caesar77 on Oct 2, 2009 2:56 AM   
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These ghouls are the real terrorists that will destroy America, and the world.

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Again, pls. make a profit,
Posted by: weathered on Oct 2, 2009 3:10 AM   
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don't be a fucking pig, but that's exactly what we've got, swine dining at the trough of greed.

For some greed is a selfish choice for others its in their DNA.

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Make it illegal except for very limited situations
Posted by: LeonBNJ on Oct 2, 2009 3:35 AM   
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Such 'life settlements' for life insurance policies, strucured litigation settlements and annunitized lottery or other payments should be made illegal except for very limited situations. There are already 'vultures' out there doing such buyouts, they need to be very strictly licensed to protect consumers or better yet not be allowed to exist. Perhaps such buyouts should requires premission of a court, caps on the percentage they can buy into, bans on securarization of such bought out financial deals and mandate very specific and consumer protecting documents.

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Seems Like a Good Idea To Me
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 2, 2009 3:39 AM   
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Lets face it - you can't take it with you...

So just assume, you are living in poverty, and barely making ends meet. You have an insurance policy worth $1,000,000 but the law is structured such that you cannot access any of that money - until you are dead.

It just so happens, that your Child is a really nasty selfish evil bastard, and is just waiting for you to die so he can inherit the proceeds of your life insurance policy.

And you think bugger it.

This fat wanker wants to give ne $400,000 cash now - if I just sign on the bottom line...

With that money, I can spend the last 20 years of my life having a really good time...

I'll negotiate and try and get $750,000.

I will then structure it, such that I receive a regular pension to maximise the value paid to me - for the remaining time I have left.

On my death, the pension payments will terminate.

My child will inherit nothing, so he is under absolutely no incentive whatsoever to bump me off and actually has to be nice to me if he wants to share any of my wealth.

It also incentivises him to get off his fat lazy arse and do something useful and earn a living for himself.

I haven't got any life insurance.

Tony

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Some Life Insurance Policies Are Extremely Poorly Designed With Age Limits
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 2, 2009 4:16 AM   
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If you are 25 when you take the policy out, the age limit might seem reasonable.

For example, you may have a wife and young children dependent on your income...

By the time you are 60 or 65, your Children will be grown up and no longer dependent.

However, the implications of this mean that if you die a month before you reach the age limit, your wife or any dependents will receive a maximum payout and be relatively wealthy.

If you die a month after the age limit, they may receive little or nothing and be left in poverty.

This has massive implications, because many people do become terminally ill around this time. If they actually survive to their birthday, they may be leaving their wife in poverty.

It would be far more sensible if life insurance pay outs were smoothly structured to gradually diminish the longer you live.

Tony

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A Fart by Any Other Name Still Stinketh
Posted by: InsertNameHere on Oct 2, 2009 4:31 AM   
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So these are basically the insurance version of the home equity loan, or 'reverse mortgage'.

Sounds like a great way to suck people in, but I'm sure the tax hit will be greater for cashing in earlier.

Most wealth is inherited, that's why rich families stay rich. Not satisfied with that, now they've figured out how to get everyone's inheritance!

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Death Derivatives Anyone?
Posted by: Lese Majeste on Oct 2, 2009 4:32 AM   
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The Wall Street gangsters will gut the life insurance industry the same way they imploded the mortgage business.

They'll carve out the good portion for themselves, then let the rest go into default while they get billion dollar paydays.

And who will get stuck with the bill when 'ABC Life Insurance" can't pay off the death benefits because greedy Wall Street hucksters robbed the account?

One guess as to who will be stuck with this next bailout.

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Why has no one mentioned the obvious...........
Posted by: bubbleburster04 on Oct 2, 2009 5:40 AM   
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Forget the life insurance industry lobbying against health care reform in order that their policy holders die sooner; if the program layed out in the article comes to pass, eventually some folks who had their nice fat life insurance policies bought out by investors are going to turn up DEAD "accidentally" far sooner than their natural expected life span, don'tcha think????? DUH

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Not surprised
Posted by: wzsteen on Oct 2, 2009 6:58 AM   
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Being the bottom feeding blood suckers they are, I am not surprised. They thrive of the misery of Main Street America.

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b kenneth mcgee author: eyes shut tight
Posted by: rfgtile on Oct 2, 2009 7:13 AM   
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I am seventy-eight years old. If I let them buy my life insurance policy, do you think they will send me a loaded thirty-eight with a thank you note enclosed saying...."We know you will do the right thing"

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Once again profit over people...........
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Oct 2, 2009 7:30 AM   
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This Chicago school "free-market" fundamentalism is again rearing its ugly head of profit over people! This model must be destroyed! There is no such animal as "self-regulation due to self-interests", on Wall Street the only self-interest is profit at all costs! We as a society must evict those Corporate whores in Congress (regardless of party) for the best interests of the people! Until we can transcend "party" and those faux divisive issues, the politicians that continue to sell us out for their own and the Corporate interests we will continue, and we will be bled til there is nothing left!

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Am I correct
Posted by: shannonwhite on Oct 2, 2009 9:50 AM   
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But don't insurance policies already allow "borrowing" against the policy's cash value? And most policies allow you to continue premium payments from the cash value, so a holder can stop paying premiums without losing the policy. If I were the insurance companies, I'd start an ad campaign promoting these basic facts. My guess is the rest of financial industry just wants to compete for that policy cash value that up til now were mostly monopolized by the insurers.

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Prediction:
Posted by: leafsong1 on Oct 2, 2009 10:02 AM   
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Over the next five to seven years, we will continue to see articles decrying the insanity of allowing such practices in the left blogosphere. In the MSM, economic advisors will tell masses that there is really nothing wrong. The Fed chief will blithely state that self-policing is an adequate response. Congress will pass an amendment or tax break or two which sweeten the profits for such ventures. As the warnings that the entire Ponzi-scheme will go south intensify, so will the enthusiastic support of media commentators intensify, urging people to invest in the market or miss out on the huge profits. Then there will be a crash, a collapse, a bailout, more mergers, huge bonuses for executives, more moaning about "how could they have made such a mistake" and "why didn't they warn us," followed by a "consensus" that we should "look forward, not back" and a financial loss far in excess of the entire value of the industry covered by the Fed and the Treasury with money borrowed from Big Finance and China at interest. At that point Fox News will sponsor a "Paul Revere" protest movement complete with fat white illiterates decorating their button-hats with dangling bits of pewter and carrying Newscorp-copyrighted signs against the nazi/socialist plot envisioned by anyone who talks about meaningful reform. I will still be calling for a bloody revolution then, and people will still be saying that I am being hasty and not giving the process a chance to work.

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Call me cynical, but...
Posted by: wtfo on Oct 2, 2009 10:47 AM   
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I find it hard to believe that such a decent, upright, Christian nation as we say we are would have ANYTHING to do with the securitization of "life settlement" buyouts of existing life insurance policies. I always felt uneasy about even the concept of this life insurance tactic because of the obvious immoral financial gain of a 3rd party due to the death of the insured.

While it was not really a widespread practice prior to this new securitization plan, if it becomes as popular as the home mortage securitization bubble was I can envision a new for-profit business scheme spring up. It would employ pseudo hit-men who would be contracted to "arrange" for the accelerated demise of the people who had agreed to these life settlements so that the new owners of the securitized assets could reap the profits ASAP.

I personally find it hard to envision a more immoral way for investors to profit from the ill fortune of other people. If our nation lets this new creative Wall Street invention come to pass then I can pretty much guarantee that the life insurance industry will suddenly find more and more people mysteriously dieing before their life expectency tables predicted...

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It's The Ultimate Payday Loan
Posted by: InsertNameHere on Oct 2, 2009 1:42 PM   
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Not that I don't think that these Wall Street types are snakes in suits, but I don't think they will be hiring hitmen to take you out to collect their money.

That's because they don't need to collect from the insurance to make money. The beauty of securitization. They only need to bundle together a bunch of insurance policies and determine a value, then sell them. So it doesn't matter to them whether there is a problem with payouts at a later date.

It's the same as the mortgage scheme. If Wall Street had been required to wait for all those bad mortgages to pay out in order to make money, rather than bundling and selling them, then we wouldn't have this mess. Then again, they wouldn't have touched it in the first place because there would be no quick buck.

Fundamentally, an insurance policy is a sounder vehicle for securitization than mortgages because, unlike a shady mortgage, it is pretty much guaranteed to pay out.. if you're talking about Universal coverage. In reality, it would be likely that corruption would rule the day, and the hucksters would find a way to bring the whole thing down, whilst getting away with the cash.

Think of this, an insurance company sets up a new firm to deal in getting people to cash out on their insurance (at a much lower rate than if paid out normally), then they turn around and securitize and sell the policy. A perfect storm!

It would be in their interest for you to live longer, because many Universal policies have a tax deferred savings account component. You would most likely be required to continue to pay premiums. So you would continue to put value into the account to be paid out to the holder of the securitized policy.

Term insurance, with its age limits, wouldn't really have a market in securitization. Then again, Wall Street never passes by a dime without stooping to pick it up. It's imaginable that they could pay out a lump sum on a Term policy, securitize and sell it. Since the policy isn't worth much once it expires, you would end up having to pay back the money at interest if you live too long. Or lose your house, having put it up as collateral. Either way, it matters not for the Wall Street gang, because of securitization, they will have already made their money. Like the payday loan industry, or a casino, the house always wins.

In any event, the end result is likely to be the same as before. Desperate people lured in by quick cash, only to find out that they, or their heirs, are stuck mopping up the mess once the party's over. Expect more suicides.

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There Has to Be a Basis
Posted by: BobBrrz on Oct 2, 2009 4:34 PM   
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That credit default swap market HAD to have a bunch of subprime mortgages, so the mortgage salesmen went to work and victimized countless home buyers.
Now comes the life insurance shell game. But it's not going to work until a LOT of old people hold life insurance policies. Lo and behold, my mailbox overfloweth with ads for, of all things, life insurance! Nobody has wanted to sell me life insurance for 20 years--I'm 73 years old, for heaven's sake--and now suddenly I'm a prime candidate for LIFE INSURANCE?

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Let's let 'em do it
Posted by: willymack on Oct 2, 2009 6:58 PM   
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In exchange for their wholehearted support for single-payer universal health care for all, starting NOW.
This will chase them away quicker than death threats.
There is ONE way their scam may benefit people. The key words here are Insurable Interest, which means that the death of the insured would cause a hardship for someone (usually the Beneficiary of the policy), IF there's no insurance.
Here's how this works. Let's say Charlie has a policy on himself naming his wife the beneficiary. As a result of Charlie's sudden death, the proceeds of the face value of the policy are paid out to his wife who uses the money to pay off all outstanding bills, thus easing her life and eliminating the threat of collection agents and other vultures. That's what Imdemnity is all about.
Now, let's say that Charlie's wife completes her college education and lands a really well-paying job, effectively eliminating the Insurable Interest aspect as Charlie's wife accelerates payments on all outstanding bills to the point of near non-debt.
Charley goes for the cashout deal and gets half of the face value of the policy, enabling him and his wife to go on their Dream Vacation, buy a summer house, etc., etc.
It hardly matters WHO the beneficiary of the rest of the policy is, since Charlie's sudden death would no longer pose a financial threat to his wife.
This is one instance where this scam could work to the benefit of the insured, but let's face it; how mwny people are thar shrewd? Most of them would get shafted, as usual.

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Greed!
Posted by: cbstogner on Oct 2, 2009 8:02 PM   
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It's the same as the mortgage scheme. If Wall Street had been required to wait for all those bad mortgages to pay out in order to make money, rather than bundling and selling them, then we wouldn't have this mess. Then again, they wouldn't have touched it in the first place because there would be no quick buck.

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Greed!
Posted by: cbstogner on Oct 2, 2009 8:05 PM   
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Now that the government has gotten their hands on the banks and now the insurance companies. What next!

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What would...
Posted by: dadanbetty on Oct 3, 2009 1:09 AM   
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Buddha, Muhammad and Jesus say to life insurance policies?

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This problem is easily solved: Don't Buy Insurance!
Posted by: theracerace on Oct 4, 2009 2:49 PM   
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Don't buy life insurance. Don't buy stocks, bonds or any other "financial instrument". They are all scams and you don't need them. Just don't buy them. Don't use credit or bank accounts. Buy a fire resistant safe and only use cash.

If only 2% of the population takes these simple steps, then the Wall Street monster will be stone cold dead by Halloween. Good riddance.

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Can't you just see the blockbuster movie
Posted by: Old Skeptic on Oct 6, 2009 11:30 AM   
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that would be made from this: in order to get their profits as quickly as possible, the speculators would hire hitmen (or women) to, er, usher the insured into eternity so they could collect on the policy. The larger the policy, the more incentive to eliminate the insured and collect the payout. Talk about a get-rich-quick scheme!

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This will chase
Posted by: fredtowson on Oct 16, 2009 10:16 AM   
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This will chase them away quicker than death threats.
There is ONE way their scam may benefit people. The key words here are Insurable Interest, which means that the death of the insured would cause a hardship for someone (usually the Beneficiary of the policy), IF there's no insurance.
Here's how this works. Let's say Charlie has a policy on himself naming his wife the beneficiary. As a result of Charlie's sudden death, the proceeds of the face value of the policy are paid out to his wife who uses the money to pay off all outstanding bills, thus easing her life and eliminating the threat of collection agents and other vultures. That's what Imdemnity is all about.
Now, let's say that Charlie's wife completes her college education and lands a really well-paying job, effectively eliminating the Insurable Interest aspect as Charlie's wife accelerates payments on all outstanding bills to the point of near non-debt.

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Makes sense they would want to.
Posted by: sammyb on Oct 23, 2009 5:46 PM   
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I heard similar story over on wall streets tube and am a little stunned to think that our Government would do this but it makes sense that they would with that kind of money at stake.

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Conflict of Interest!
Posted by: jonraabe on Oct 2, 2009 12:50 AM   
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If you lay this story over the existing argument to offer health insurance to people, you notice that bankers, (now flush with free cash form governments and totally unwilling to lend it), will now be hoping you die as soon as possible and will lobby to keep healthcare away form people as it would keep people alive longer. I think a new law should be in order that forbids 3rd party profits form somebody's death. Its amazing what bankers will do to make money...

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Destroy everything for profit.
Posted by: kedikat on Oct 2, 2009 1:39 AM   
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Any useful, profitable venture will eventually be destroyed by the folks who do nothing but shift around money for a living.

They are mindless parasites that will kill their host by sucking the life out of it, then move on to the next healthy victim.

They produce nothing. They simply profit by skimming, reselling and gambling. They do not represent capitalism. They are the bane of capitalism. Continually draining it, crippling and deforming it.

They have perfected the most successful parasites maneuver. Taking over the very mind of the host. Controlling it. Even to the hosts systems of defense.

The parasites are now capitalism. We are merely the hosts.

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Caesar777
Posted by: Caesar77 on Oct 2, 2009 2:56 AM   
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These ghouls are the real terrorists that will destroy America, and the world.

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Again, pls. make a profit,
Posted by: weathered on Oct 2, 2009 3:10 AM   
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don't be a fucking pig, but that's exactly what we've got, swine dining at the trough of greed.

For some greed is a selfish choice for others its in their DNA.

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Make it illegal except for very limited situations
Posted by: LeonBNJ on Oct 2, 2009 3:35 AM   
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Such 'life settlements' for life insurance policies, strucured litigation settlements and annunitized lottery or other payments should be made illegal except for very limited situations. There are already 'vultures' out there doing such buyouts, they need to be very strictly licensed to protect consumers or better yet not be allowed to exist. Perhaps such buyouts should requires premission of a court, caps on the percentage they can buy into, bans on securarization of such bought out financial deals and mandate very specific and consumer protecting documents.

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Seems Like a Good Idea To Me
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 2, 2009 3:39 AM   
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Lets face it - you can't take it with you...

So just assume, you are living in poverty, and barely making ends meet. You have an insurance policy worth $1,000,000 but the law is structured such that you cannot access any of that money - until you are dead.

It just so happens, that your Child is a really nasty selfish evil bastard, and is just waiting for you to die so he can inherit the proceeds of your life insurance policy.

And you think bugger it.

This fat wanker wants to give ne $400,000 cash now - if I just sign on the bottom line...

With that money, I can spend the last 20 years of my life having a really good time...

I'll negotiate and try and get $750,000.

I will then structure it, such that I receive a regular pension to maximise the value paid to me - for the remaining time I have left.

On my death, the pension payments will terminate.

My child will inherit nothing, so he is under absolutely no incentive whatsoever to bump me off and actually has to be nice to me if he wants to share any of my wealth.

It also incentivises him to get off his fat lazy arse and do something useful and earn a living for himself.

I haven't got any life insurance.

Tony

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Some Life Insurance Policies Are Extremely Poorly Designed With Age Limits
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 2, 2009 4:16 AM   
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If you are 25 when you take the policy out, the age limit might seem reasonable.

For example, you may have a wife and young children dependent on your income...

By the time you are 60 or 65, your Children will be grown up and no longer dependent.

However, the implications of this mean that if you die a month before you reach the age limit, your wife or any dependents will receive a maximum payout and be relatively wealthy.

If you die a month after the age limit, they may receive little or nothing and be left in poverty.

This has massive implications, because many people do become terminally ill around this time. If they actually survive to their birthday, they may be leaving their wife in poverty.

It would be far more sensible if life insurance pay outs were smoothly structured to gradually diminish the longer you live.

Tony

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A Fart by Any Other Name Still Stinketh
Posted by: InsertNameHere on Oct 2, 2009 4:31 AM   
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So these are basically the insurance version of the home equity loan, or 'reverse mortgage'.

Sounds like a great way to suck people in, but I'm sure the tax hit will be greater for cashing in earlier.

Most wealth is inherited, that's why rich families stay rich. Not satisfied with that, now they've figured out how to get everyone's inheritance!

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Death Derivatives Anyone?
Posted by: Lese Majeste on Oct 2, 2009 4:32 AM   
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The Wall Street gangsters will gut the life insurance industry the same way they imploded the mortgage business.

They'll carve out the good portion for themselves, then let the rest go into default while they get billion dollar paydays.

And who will get stuck with the bill when 'ABC Life Insurance" can't pay off the death benefits because greedy Wall Street hucksters robbed the account?

One guess as to who will be stuck with this next bailout.

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Why has no one mentioned the obvious...........
Posted by: bubbleburster04 on Oct 2, 2009 5:40 AM   
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Forget the life insurance industry lobbying against health care reform in order that their policy holders die sooner; if the program layed out in the article comes to pass, eventually some folks who had their nice fat life insurance policies bought out by investors are going to turn up DEAD "accidentally" far sooner than their natural expected life span, don'tcha think????? DUH

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Not surprised
Posted by: wzsteen on Oct 2, 2009 6:58 AM   
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Being the bottom feeding blood suckers they are, I am not surprised. They thrive of the misery of Main Street America.

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b kenneth mcgee author: eyes shut tight
Posted by: rfgtile on Oct 2, 2009 7:13 AM   
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I am seventy-eight years old. If I let them buy my life insurance policy, do you think they will send me a loaded thirty-eight with a thank you note enclosed saying...."We know you will do the right thing"

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Once again profit over people...........
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Oct 2, 2009 7:30 AM   
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This Chicago school "free-market" fundamentalism is again rearing its ugly head of profit over people! This model must be destroyed! There is no such animal as "self-regulation due to self-interests", on Wall Street the only self-interest is profit at all costs! We as a society must evict those Corporate whores in Congress (regardless of party) for the best interests of the people! Until we can transcend "party" and those faux divisive issues, the politicians that continue to sell us out for their own and the Corporate interests we will continue, and we will be bled til there is nothing left!

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Am I correct
Posted by: shannonwhite on Oct 2, 2009 9:50 AM   
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But don't insurance policies already allow "borrowing" against the policy's cash value? And most policies allow you to continue premium payments from the cash value, so a holder can stop paying premiums without losing the policy. If I were the insurance companies, I'd start an ad campaign promoting these basic facts. My guess is the rest of financial industry just wants to compete for that policy cash value that up til now were mostly monopolized by the insurers.

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Prediction:
Posted by: leafsong1 on Oct 2, 2009 10:02 AM   
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Over the next five to seven years, we will continue to see articles decrying the insanity of allowing such practices in the left blogosphere. In the MSM, economic advisors will tell masses that there is really nothing wrong. The Fed chief will blithely state that self-policing is an adequate response. Congress will pass an amendment or tax break or two which sweeten the profits for such ventures. As the warnings that the entire Ponzi-scheme will go south intensify, so will the enthusiastic support of media commentators intensify, urging people to invest in the market or miss out on the huge profits. Then there will be a crash, a collapse, a bailout, more mergers, huge bonuses for executives, more moaning about "how could they have made such a mistake" and "why didn't they warn us," followed by a "consensus" that we should "look forward, not back" and a financial loss far in excess of the entire value of the industry covered by the Fed and the Treasury with money borrowed from Big Finance and China at interest. At that point Fox News will sponsor a "Paul Revere" protest movement complete with fat white illiterates decorating their button-hats with dangling bits of pewter and carrying Newscorp-copyrighted signs against the nazi/socialist plot envisioned by anyone who talks about meaningful reform. I will still be calling for a bloody revolution then, and people will still be saying that I am being hasty and not giving the process a chance to work.

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Call me cynical, but...
Posted by: wtfo on Oct 2, 2009 10:47 AM   
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I find it hard to believe that such a decent, upright, Christian nation as we say we are would have ANYTHING to do with the securitization of "life settlement" buyouts of existing life insurance policies. I always felt uneasy about even the concept of this life insurance tactic because of the obvious immoral financial gain of a 3rd party due to the death of the insured.

While it was not really a widespread practice prior to this new securitization plan, if it becomes as popular as the home mortage securitization bubble was I can envision a new for-profit business scheme spring up. It would employ pseudo hit-men who would be contracted to "arrange" for the accelerated demise of the people who had agreed to these life settlements so that the new owners of the securitized assets could reap the profits ASAP.

I personally find it hard to envision a more immoral way for investors to profit from the ill fortune of other people. If our nation lets this new creative Wall Street invention come to pass then I can pretty much guarantee that the life insurance industry will suddenly find more and more people mysteriously dieing before their life expectency tables predicted...

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It's The Ultimate Payday Loan
Posted by: InsertNameHere on Oct 2, 2009 1:42 PM   
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Not that I don't think that these Wall Street types are snakes in suits, but I don't think they will be hiring hitmen to take you out to collect their money.

That's because they don't need to collect from the insurance to make money. The beauty of securitization. They only need to bundle together a bunch of insurance policies and determine a value, then sell them. So it doesn't matter to them whether there is a problem with payouts at a later date.

It's the same as the mortgage scheme. If Wall Street had been required to wait for all those bad mortgages to pay out in order to make money, rather than bundling and selling them, then we wouldn't have this mess. Then again, they wouldn't have touched it in the first place because there would be no quick buck.

Fundamentally, an insurance policy is a sounder vehicle for securitization than mortgages because, unlike a shady mortgage, it is pretty much guaranteed to pay out.. if you're talking about Universal coverage. In reality, it would be likely that corruption would rule the day, and the hucksters would find a way to bring the whole thing down, whilst getting away with the cash.

Think of this, an insurance company sets up a new firm to deal in getting people to cash out on their insurance (at a much lower rate than if paid out normally), then they turn around and securitize and sell the policy. A perfect storm!

It would be in their interest for you to live longer, because many Universal policies have a tax deferred savings account component. You would most likely be required to continue to pay premiums. So you would continue to put value into the account to be paid out to the holder of the securitized policy.

Term insurance, with its age limits, wouldn't really have a market in securitization. Then again, Wall Street never passes by a dime without stooping to pick it up. It's imaginable that they could pay out a lump sum on a Term policy, securitize and sell it. Since the policy isn't worth much once it expires, you would end up having to pay back the money at interest if you live too long. Or lose your house, having put it up as collateral. Either way, it matters not for the Wall Street gang, because of securitization, they will have already made their money. Like the payday loan industry, or a casino, the house always wins.

In any event, the end result is likely to be the same as before. Desperate people lured in by quick cash, only to find out that they, or their heirs, are stuck mopping up the mess once the party's over. Expect more suicides.

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There Has to Be a Basis
Posted by: BobBrrz on Oct 2, 2009 4:34 PM   
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That credit default swap market HAD to have a bunch of subprime mortgages, so the mortgage salesmen went to work and victimized countless home buyers.
Now comes the life insurance shell game. But it's not going to work until a LOT of old people hold life insurance policies. Lo and behold, my mailbox overfloweth with ads for, of all things, life insurance! Nobody has wanted to sell me life insurance for 20 years--I'm 73 years old, for heaven's sake--and now suddenly I'm a prime candidate for LIFE INSURANCE?

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Let's let 'em do it
Posted by: willymack on Oct 2, 2009 6:58 PM   
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In exchange for their wholehearted support for single-payer universal health care for all, starting NOW.
This will chase them away quicker than death threats.
There is ONE way their scam may benefit people. The key words here are Insurable Interest, which means that the death of the insured would cause a hardship for someone (usually the Beneficiary of the policy), IF there's no insurance.
Here's how this works. Let's say Charlie has a policy on himself naming his wife the beneficiary. As a result of Charlie's sudden death, the proceeds of the face value of the policy are paid out to his wife who uses the money to pay off all outstanding bills, thus easing her life and eliminating the threat of collection agents and other vultures. That's what Imdemnity is all about.
Now, let's say that Charlie's wife completes her college education and lands a really well-paying job, effectively eliminating the Insurable Interest aspect as Charlie's wife accelerates payments on all outstanding bills to the point of near non-debt.
Charley goes for the cashout deal and gets half of the face value of the policy, enabling him and his wife to go on their Dream Vacation, buy a summer house, etc., etc.
It hardly matters WHO the beneficiary of the rest of the policy is, since Charlie's sudden death would no longer pose a financial threat to his wife.
This is one instance where this scam could work to the benefit of the insured, but let's face it; how mwny people are thar shrewd? Most of them would get shafted, as usual.

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Greed!
Posted by: cbstogner on Oct 2, 2009 8:02 PM   
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It's the same as the mortgage scheme. If Wall Street had been required to wait for all those bad mortgages to pay out in order to make money, rather than bundling and selling them, then we wouldn't have this mess. Then again, they wouldn't have touched it in the first place because there would be no quick buck.

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Greed!
Posted by: cbstogner on Oct 2, 2009 8:05 PM   
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Now that the government has gotten their hands on the banks and now the insurance companies. What next!

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What would...
Posted by: dadanbetty on Oct 3, 2009 1:09 AM   
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Buddha, Muhammad and Jesus say to life insurance policies?

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This problem is easily solved: Don't Buy Insurance!
Posted by: theracerace on Oct 4, 2009 2:49 PM   
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Don't buy life insurance. Don't buy stocks, bonds or any other "financial instrument". They are all scams and you don't need them. Just don't buy them. Don't use credit or bank accounts. Buy a fire resistant safe and only use cash.

If only 2% of the population takes these simple steps, then the Wall Street monster will be stone cold dead by Halloween. Good riddance.

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Can't you just see the blockbuster movie
Posted by: Old Skeptic on Oct 6, 2009 11:30 AM   
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that would be made from this: in order to get their profits as quickly as possible, the speculators would hire hitmen (or women) to, er, usher the insured into eternity so they could collect on the policy. The larger the policy, the more incentive to eliminate the insured and collect the payout. Talk about a get-rich-quick scheme!

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This will chase
Posted by: fredtowson on Oct 16, 2009 10:16 AM   
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This will chase them away quicker than death threats.
There is ONE way their scam may benefit people. The key words here are Insurable Interest, which means that the death of the insured would cause a hardship for someone (usually the Beneficiary of the policy), IF there's no insurance.
Here's how this works. Let's say Charlie has a policy on himself naming his wife the beneficiary. As a result of Charlie's sudden death, the proceeds of the face value of the policy are paid out to his wife who uses the money to pay off all outstanding bills, thus easing her life and eliminating the threat of collection agents and other vultures. That's what Imdemnity is all about.
Now, let's say that Charlie's wife completes her college education and lands a really well-paying job, effectively eliminating the Insurable Interest aspect as Charlie's wife accelerates payments on all outstanding bills to the point of near non-debt.

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Makes sense they would want to.
Posted by: sammyb on Oct 23, 2009 5:46 PM   
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I heard similar story over on wall streets tube and am a little stunned to think that our Government would do this but it makes sense that they would with that kind of money at stake.

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