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Editor's note: The following is an excerpt from Nomi Prins' new book, It Takes a Pillage: Behind the Bailouts, Bonuses, and Backroom Deals from Washington to Wall Street.
The Second Great Bank Depression has spawned so many lies, it's hard to keep track of which is the biggest. Possibly the most irksome class of lies, usually spouted by Wall Street hacks and conservative pundits, is that we're all victims to a bunch of poor people who bought McMansions, or at least homes they had no business living in. If that was really what this crisis was all about, we could have solved it much more cheaply in a couple of days in late 2008, by simply providing borrowers with additional capital to reduce their loan principals. It would have cost about 3 percent of what the entire bailout wound up costing, with comparatively similar risk.
Just as great oaks from little acorns grow, so, too, can a Second Great Bank Depression from a tiny loan grow. But so you know, it wasn't the tiny loan's fault. It was everyone and everything that piled on top. That's how a small loan in Stockton, California, can be linked to a worldwide economic collapse all the way to Iceland, through a plethora of shady financial techniques and overzealous sales pitches.
Here are some numbers for you. There were approximately $1.4 trillion worth of subprime loans outstanding in the United States by the end of 2007. By May 2009, there were foreclosure filings against approximately 5.1 million properties. If it was only the subprime market's fault, 1.4 trillion would have covered the entire problem, right?
Yet the Federal Reserve, the Treasury, and the FDIC forked out more than $13 trillion to fix the "housing correction," as Hank Paulson steadfastly referred to the Second Great Bank Depression as late as November 20, 2008, while he was treasury secretary. With that money, the government could have bought up every residential mortgage in the country — there were about $11.9 trillion worth at the end of December 2008 — and still have had a trillion left over to buy homes for every single American who couldn't afford them, and pay their health care to boot.
But there was much more to it than that: Wall Street was engaged in a very dangerous practice called leverage. Leverage is when you borrow a lot of money in order to place a big bet. It makes the payoff that much bigger. You may not be able to cover the bet if you're wrong — you may even have to put down a bit of collateral in order to place that bet — but that doesn't matter when you're sure you're going to win. It is a high-risk, high-reward way to make money, as long as you're not wrong. Or as long as you make the rules. Or as long as the government has your back.
The Second Great Bank Depression wouldn't have been as tragic without a thirty-to-one leverage ratio for investment banks, and, according to the
New York Times
, a ratio that ranged from eleven to one to fifteen-to-one for the major commercial banks. Actually, it's unclear what kind of leverage the commercial banks really had, because so many of their products were off-book, or not evaluated according to what the market would pay for them. Banks would have taken a hit on their mortgage and consumer credit portfolios, but the systemic credit crisis and the bailout bonanza would have been avoided. Leverage included, we're looking at a possible $140 trillion problem. That's right — $140 trillion! Imagine if the financial firms all over the globe actually exposed their piece of that leverage.
But for $1.4 trillion in subprime loans to become $140 trillion in potential losses, you need two steps in between. The most significant is a healthy dose of leverage, but leverage would not have had a platform without the help of a wondrous financial feat called securitization. Financial firms run economic models that select and package loans into new securities according to criteria such as geographic diversity, the size of the loans, and the length of the mortgages. A bunch of loans are then repackaged into an asset-backed security (ABS). This new security is backed, or collateralized, by a small number of original home loans related to the size of the security. Some securities, for example, might be 10 percent real loans and 90 percent bonds backed by those loans. Some might be 5 percent real loans. Whatever the proportion, the money the mortgage holders pay to lenders on their loans is used to make payments on new assets or securities. Those securities, in turn, pay out to their investors.
During the lead-up to the Second Great Bank Depression, the securities themselves were a much bigger problem than the loans. Between 2002 and 2007, banks in the United States created nearly 80 percent of the approximately $14 trillion worth of total global ABSs, collateralized debt obligations (CDOs), and other alphabetic concoctions or "structured" assets. Structured assets were created at triple what the rate had been from 1998 to 2002. Bankers from the rest of the world created, or "issued," the other 20 percent, around $3 trillion worth. Everyone was paid handsomely. In total, issuers raked in a combined $300 billion in fees. Fees can be made for all types of securitized assets, but the more convoluted they are, the riskier and more lucrative they become. Fees ranged from .1 percent to 0.5 percent on standard ABS deals and up to 0.3 percent for mortgage-backed securities (MBSs) and whole business securitization (WBS) deals. Fees were better for CDOs—between 1.5 and 1.75 percent for each deal, and higher for the riskier slices. All told, the $2 trillion CDO market alone netted Wall Street around $30 billion before CDO values headed south. Because U.S. investment banks were making huge profits from packaging churning loans and leveraging them, mortgage-and asset-backed security volume skyrocketed.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 29, 2009 3:48 AM
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The idea that they want us to believe is that after I live in this house I bought for 125K, it will be worth the 300K I paid out in those 30 yrs. Use does not increase Value- Only decreases it. And for Good Reason- regardless of renovations, additions and updates- the basic foundation of the house and the neighborhood have aged. 'The place to live' in 1960 was not the same place in 1990.
So not just value in the home, but the city, or even the state.
So home values may go up for the short term of a 'boom' but will ultimately lose value over time.
And anyone with half a brain knew this, but these assholes were hoping the bust would happen after they made their money. and a Good number did- through the '80's and '90's- sucking the marrow out of our economy, along with the deregulated, lopsided Global trade and labor policies. They didn't just tank this country on high risk gambling and loan sharking- they undermined the average persons ability to meet those obligations by exporting jobs, staganting wages and increasing out of pocket healthcare costs.
This wasn't just pilferring the American People by Big Finance, It was multilateral assault by numerous institutions and industries.
Thats Called a Stratedgy, an Agenda...It's also called Conspiracy. and when it's against ones own nation and her people, it's called Treason.
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Posted by: InsertNameHere on Sep 29, 2009 4:09 AM
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I was just looking at the PBS Frontline Report on the devious ways banks levy overdraft fees on debit cards.
The US System of debit / check cards is very strange to me because in Canada, your bank card provided by the bank is also a debit card, and the purchases are cleared through one system. Each transaction is $1.50. If you have overdraft on your account, you will still be able to make purchases but the cost of the overdraft protection is generally part of your bank account plan fee.
In the US, it seems a fee is charged for every transaction under your balance (in overdraft). The report says that some banks manipulate the way purchases are cleared so that they are able to charge an overdraft fee sooner and on more purchases. Just watch it.
I've got to hand it to you Americans, you've really succeeded in taking Capitalism to its utmost extreme of naked greed and brutal efficiency.
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Posted by: initiate on Sep 29, 2009 4:48 AM
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It's an utterly unproductive & unjust venture, which the rest of us are left paying for. 'Money for nothing' contributes nothing to the common good. This system, based solely on competition & greed, is destructive to the quality of all life; human & sub-human. Soon it will have to be replaced by a more equitable system, based on sharing, trust, & cooperation. There is no other choice. Making money while others starve is no longer an option. 'Speculation' is a sickness which must be cured. Such injustice contains the seeds of terrorism, war, & ecological destruction.
Instead, when governments adopt the principal of sharing of the earth's resources with all, we will save the world. It must be so, for we are all children of the same planet, & thus, all entitled to partake of it's natural wealth.
Think I'm dreaming? Just an idealist? Deluded? Fine. Then watch & wait, & stay awake. I promise not to say: 'I told you so". Meanwhile, we can stop wasting time & energy indulging in cynicism; it's just a convenient excuse for complacency--the true root of all evil.
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Posted by: CLARENCE SWINNEY on Sep 29, 2009 5:16 AM
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OBAMA TSUNAMI
I ACCEPT PRAISETIQUES NOT CRITIQUES
ANY RESPONSE IS APPRECIATED IF ONE USES FACTS-NUMBERS.
BLARNEY BLABBER GENERALIZATIONS NOT READ.
“CONSERVATIVE” IDEOLOGY GAVE US THE CURRENT “GREAT” RECESSION SAME AS IT DID IN “GREAT” DEPRESSION
LET WALL STREET GAMBLERS PLAY WITH LOADED DICE AND MARKED CARDS
FREE THE FREAK MARKET
LET RICH GET ULTRA RICH IT WILL TRICKLE DOWN TO MIDDLE CLASS
FROM 1946 TO REAGAN WAS --–THE GREAT MIDDLE CLASS YEARS---
EACH PERCENTILE INCREASED, ALMOST EVENLY, IN WEALTH AND INCOME.
ECONOMISTS CALLED IT A PICKET FENCE DISTRIBUTION.
REAGAN POLICIES BEGAN UPWARD SHIFT (ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SHIFT AN SH-T IS ONE LETTER)
IT BECAME A STEP LADDER DISTRIBUTION. EACH STEP GAINED A LITTLE AND TOP STEP(10%) WENT INTO OUTER SPACE.
HIS HUGE TAX “CUTS” FOR WEALTHY (60% CUT).
HIS HUGE TAX “INCREASES” ON THE MIDDLE CLASS (PAYROLL TAX INCREASE WAS LARGEST IN HISTORY –TAX ON 50% OF SOCIAL SECURITY INCOME--5 CENTS ON GAS)
HIS ENORMOUS INCREASE IN MILITARY SPENDING ENRICHED THE RICH STOCKHOLDERS OF DEFENSE BUSINESSES.
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Posted by: CLARENCE SWINNEY on Sep 29, 2009 5:18 AM
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Do not try usual conservative spin—“it was congress”.
Reagan 8 budgets spent more than prior 50 years.
He submitted 8 for over 7000b. 1930-1980 spent 6066b—congress returned 8 budgets to Reagan with fewer dollars in total than he had submitted to it.
Go ahead try usual conservative spin—“real” inflation adjusted dollars—no work senor—
From 1948 to 1989 Reagan spent 2.7 dollars in 8 for each “real” dollar spent in other 32 years. Comprehendez amigo? Factoids hurt? Si!
Try usual Heritage spin—Reagan tax cuts paid their way—huh! From 1983 to 1989 federal revenues increased from 599b to 990b. 391b increase. Correct. But-Reagan tax cuts were income tax cuts therefore it seems logical you measure income tax revenue increase.
319b increase. 201b was increase in payroll tax revenue from Reagan huge increase in it.
50b in excise tax increase partial from gas tax. 251b of 391b. Durn! That leaves 140b increase in income tax revenues. My math professor Dr. Hook taught me 140 in is smaller than 750 out. Factoids are miserable things.
In 1980--86% of employees had Health Insurance-In 2008---31%.
GEORGE W. BUSH DID MORE DAMAGE THAN REAGAN.
INCREASED FEDERAL SPENDING BY 118%--DEBT BY 100%
CUT TAXES FOR TOP 2.7% OR 4 TIMES AS MUCH AS BOTTOM 80%
HIS 1700 BILLION IN TAX CUTS WERE IN THE 5000B HE BORROWED.
BUSH LED US INTO TWO AWFUL SLAUGHTERAMAS. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE WERE KILLED. TENS OF THOUSANDS OF LITTLE KIDS WILL BE MAIMED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THEIR LIVES. TENS OF THOUSANDS OF WIDOWS HAVE NO WORKER TO SUPPORT THEM.
EVER KNOW AN AMERICAN SO-CALLED CHRISTIAN TO WEEP OVER THOSE HORRORS?
MILLIONS OF TEARS SHED OVER HOLOCAUST. NOT THIS ONE. I WEEP.
HE CREATED NET NEW JOBS AT 3000 PER MONTH. HORRIBLE COMPARED TO 218,000 AND 237,000 THE CARTER-CLINTON RECORDS.
THE WORLD WARNED NOT TO INVADE IRAQ.
BUSH FATHER SAID DO NOT DO IT
LEADERSHIP OF EACH MAJOR RELIGION (EXCEPT SOUTHERN BAPTIST) IN AMERICA SAID DO NOT DO IT.
POLLS IN MAJOR NATIONS SAID DO NOT DO IT.
EXCEPTIONS WERE THREE--ISRAEL AS EXPECTED-POLAND-AUSTRALIA
CHENEY TOLD RUMSFELD THE DAY AFTER 2001 INAUGURATION “PREPARE TO INVADE IRAQ”. EQUIPMENT WAS MOVED INTO KUWAIT FAR BEFORE BUSH “CHEERFUL” ANNOUNCEMENT WE WERE INVADING IRAQ TO FULFILL HIS STATEMENT TO HIS BIOGRAPHER-- “I WILL NEED A WAR TO BE A SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENT”.
WALL STREET WAS ALLOWED UNRESTRICTED WIDE-OPEN GAMBLING. IT WAS UNPRODUCTIVE. NO JOBS WERE CREATED. IT WAS SIMPLY THE RICH GAMBLING TO GET RICHER. BETTING MONEY AGAINST MONEY. ROULETTE WHEEL TYPE GAMBLING.
I BET ON RED YOU BET ON BLACK.
THE HOUSING INDUSTRY SUSTAINED GDP GROWTH BUT WASTED CAPITAL-LABOR-MATERIALS TO CONSTRUCT HOMES TOO LARGE-TOO EXPENSIVE FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS INCOME. FEDERAL RESERVE (GREENSPAN) INCREASED THE TOTAL MONEY SUPPLY IN 5 YEARS BY TWICE AS MUCH AS INCREASE OVER PRIOR TEN YEARS.
GREENSPAN GAVE CLINTON A 6.5% INTEREST RATE AND BUSH A 1%.
THIS ENCOURAGED BANKS TO BORROW MAX FROM FEDERAL RESERVE.
PLENTY MONEY PLUS LOW INTEREST=DISASTER
LOCAL BANKS WERE ALLOWED TO TRADE AND INVEST IN WALL STREET.
COURTESY OF PHIL GRAMN, REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS, PLUS PRESIDENT CLINTON WHO APPROVED ELIMINATION OF GLASS-STEAGALL RESTRICTIONS ON LOCAL BANKS.
IT KEPT BANKS FROM GAMBLERS ON WALL STREET AS IN 1920S.
WE DID NOT LEARN FROM CHANGING SAVINGS AND LOANS FROM LOCAL OWNERSHIP TO WALL STREET GAMBLERS OWNERSHIP AND MICHAEL MILKEN LED RAIDS ON CORPORATIONS.
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Posted by: CLARENCE SWINNEY on Sep 29, 2009 5:20 AM
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CRAAAASH. HOME OWNER NOW HAS $700,00 MORTGAGE ON $400,000 VALUE HOME.
FORECLOSURE HERE I COME. SPECULATORS GOT INTO THE FRENZY. BOUGHT HOMES FOR NO DOWN PAYMENT AND SMALL MONTHLY PAYMENTS BASED ON SELLING IN TWO YEARS AT HUGE PROFIT. ZAP. FORECLOSURE. IN JANUARY 2008 THE TOTAL FORECLOSURES TO DATE WERE 23% ON SPECULATION PURCHASED HOMES.
LARGE DEVELOPMENT FIRMS GOT LOW LOW INTEREST MONEY TO BUILD MANSIONS NOT AFFORDABLE HOMES FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS. THEY GOT RICH. IN CALIFORNIA A DEVELOPER BUILT A DEVELOPMENT OF $700,00 HOMES AND IN ANOTHER AREA BUILT EXACT SAME BLUEPRINT FOR $500,000. IF HE MADE $100,00 ON A $400,000 HOME HOW MUCH ON A $700,00 HOME. HE IS BEING SUED BY BUYERS OF $700,000 HOMES.
THE HOUSING FRENZY WAS BASED ON ONE ASSUMPTION. A LOGICAL ONE BASED ON HISTORY. HOUSING HAS ALWAYS APPRECIATED IN VALUE. ALWAYS IN HISTORY.
HISTORY IS FALLIBLE.
ONE HEDGE FUND (GAMBLING) MANAGER MADE 2000 MILLION IN ONE YEAR.
TWO MADE 1000 MILLION IN ONE YEAR.
TAXED AT 15% RATE.
THIS GAMBLING GREED FRENZY COST THE MIDDLE CLASS IN THE REDUCED VALUE OF THEIR HOME AFTER THE BIG CRASH. THE VALUE DECLINE OF MY HOME WAS 15%.
FROM 1981 TO 2008 IT WAS A DISASTER FOR WORKING PEOPLE AND BONANZA FOR GAMBLING PEOPLE.
WHY DID NOT CEO’S INCREASE INCOME OF THEIR WORKERS?
IN ONE YEAR THE CEO’S MADE 550 TIMES THE PAY OF THE AVERAGE WAGE IN THEIR BUSINESSES. REMEMBER THE GOOD OLD MIDDLE CLASS DAYS WHEN IT WAS 40 TIMES.
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Posted by: CLARENCE SWINNEY on Sep 29, 2009 5:21 AM
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SINCE 1980 HERE IS A BRIEF
20 YEARS=3 SO CALLED CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENTS
18 YEARS=SO CALLED CONSERVATIVE SENATE
12 YEARS=SO CALLED HOUSE
6 YEARS=TOTAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL BY SO CALLED CONSERVATIVES
2 TERRIBLE ILLEGAL WARS
TRANSFER OF JOBS TO CHINA AS WE COVERED OUR OVER-SPENDING BY THEIR LOANS
LOSS OF OUR JOB PRODUCING MANUFACTURING BASE--
HERE ARE THE RESULTS
600B SPENDING TO 4000B
1000B OF DEBT TO 11,000 +
23M NET NEW JOBS
12 YEARS OF CARTER + CLINTON GOT 33M
8 YEARS OF THE MOST SCURRILOUS ADMINISTRATION IN HISTORY PER HAYNES JOHNSON IN --PRESIDENT REAGAN=SLEEPWALKING THROUGH HISTORY
138 CHARGED WITH CRIMES WAS MORE THAN GRAND TOTAL SINCE 1900
MOST OF THEM WERE CHARGED IN CRIMES INVOLVING MONEY.
THE NUMBERS ARE AVAILABLE. THE HISTORY IS VERY CLEAR.
THE GREAT MIDDLE CLASS GOT THE GREAT BIG SHAFTING.
THE STRUGGLING RICH BECAME THE ULTRA-RICH
SMASHED WALL STREET
SMASHED ECONOMY
SMASHED HOUSING
SMASHED CHILDRENS FUTURE WITH DEBT
SMASHED WORKERS INCOME
SMASHED AMERICAS REPUTATION WORLDWIDE
STARTED THE DECLINE OF THE AMERICAN EMPIRE LIKE ROME-SPAIN-HOLLAND-BRITAIN
DEMOCRATS HISTORY OF BUILDING GOOD THINGS FOR ALL AMERICANS
CONSERVATIVE HISTORY OF FIGHTING THOSE GOOD THINGS
WHY DO YOU SEND CONSERVATIVES BACK TO WASHINGTON?
I AM OLD AND UGLY AND I APPROVED THIS MESSAGE OF DELIVERANCE
FROM CONSERVATIVE FALSEHOODS
I ASK ONLY IF I AM WRONG GIVE ME FACTS AND I WILL CORRECT.
I ERR BUT I DO NOT WRITE WITH INTENT TO DECEIVE
8-26-09 USA TODAY—CBO AND CEA PROJECT DEFICITS OF 9 TRILLION OVER NEXT TEN YEARS. REPUBLICANS, PER USUAL, JUMP ON OBAMA CASE.
REP. BOEHNER “TODAY’S REPORTS CONFIRM WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN TRYING TO HIDE.
THE DEMOCRATS OUT-OF–CONTROL SPENDING BINGE IS BURYING OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN UNDER A MOUNTAIN OF UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT”.
This is so stupid it is a good laugh. He took us on a Spend-Borrow binge from 1000B of debt to 11,000B. He took us on a spend binge from 600B to 4000B.
These guys have one simple trait—deceive—distract from truth—attack attack
Yes! No question. It is going to take much Spend-Tax-Borrow for years to correct the mess created in prior twenty years of conservative control.
How easy the people forget the Balanced Budgets=Surpluses under Clinton and 8 good years.
WOW—8 YEARS=5000B + INCREASE IN DEBT UNDER BOEHNER-BUSH
1830B IN CLINTON LAST YEAR OF SPENDING TO 4000B UNDER BUSH LAST YEAR OF SPENDING
SPENDERS + DEBTORS + LIARS = CONSERVATIVES
ONE MAJOR TRUTH—IF A CONSERVATIVE LEADER SAYS IT --IT IS PART TRUE.
NEVER TRUST A CONSERVATIVE IN WASHINGTON. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER.
If I err give me facts I will correct. cswinney2@triad.rr.com
Political historian since 1991 on Reagan-Clinton-Bush II
Author=-Lifeaholic-Workaholic to Lifeaholic Success
Author-unpublished
ALL AMERICAN PARTY-How Democrats created a Great Middle Class and Conservatives are determined to destroy it
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Posted by: CLARENCE SWINNEY on Sep 29, 2009 5:45 AM
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Cut Clinton 6.5% Interest Rate to 1% for Bush.
Increased Total Money Supply by 4000 Billion in five years
2001-2005
Like S&L Debacle--Vaults are wide open pals come and get it.
Clinton got shafted by him. In 1996 campaign for reelection Greenspan increased Interest Rates seven times.
June 1999 to June 2000 he increased Interest Rates six times.
There was nothing to justify those increases except elect a Repuglinut.
Is it not strange that our FINANCIAL system is managed by those off WALL STREET.
Many out of Goldman Saks
Buddie Buddie Buddie Buddie
Where are the Academics???
Robert Reich types.
cswinney2@triad.rr.com
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Posted by: frantic1971 on Sep 29, 2009 6:22 AM
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Growing up in the 1960's, like other kids I was constantly fed stuff about how evil the Soviet Union was, how THEY did this sort of thing, how THEY screwed the poor dumb people over. Hell! We've become just like them!
It's Orwell's 1984 in the guise of uber-capitalism.
Man---we need to stage a "France--1789" in this country!
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Posted by: dover23 on Sep 29, 2009 7:07 AM
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However, let's give credit where credit is due: Mr. Greenspan has cut rates since then. And while some of us may have been urging him to move even faster, the Fed's four interest-rate cuts since the slowdown became apparent represent an unusually aggressive response by historical standards. It's still not clear that Mr. Greenspan has caught up with the curve — let's have at least one more rate cut, please — but the interest-rate cuts do, cross your fingers, seem to be having an effect.
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Posted by: Gravitas on Sep 29, 2009 7:08 AM
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Washington has become Versailles. We are ruled, entertained and informed by courtiers. The popular media are courtiers. The Democrats, like the Republicans, are courtiers. Our pundits and experts are courtiers. We are captivated by the hollow stagecraft of political theater as we are ruthlessly stripped of power. It is smoke and mirrors, tricks and con games. We are being had. - Chris Hedges
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 29, 2009 7:31 AM
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Capitalism & money aren't the root of all evil, it is the lust for and winner take all mentality that has been at the root of this evil! From the politicians that are being funded not just through their PAC's but because many have jumped to Lobby for the very industries that they de-regulated for! These politico's would like for you to believe that "government doesn't work" , then if that's the case ARE THEY NOT REALLY THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM, AND THEREFORE NEED TO BE VOTED OUT?!
And these political whores are correct, "our government" doesn't work when "WE THE PEOPLE" continue to vote these people into office without holding them accountable to US! People democracy isn't just about voting, and it damn sure isn't about "a party" - it is about every citizen being informed about the issues, and "their representative" voting not just in the best interest of the state they represent but for the nation as a whole, and we the people demanding accountability from the people we've put into government!
The only way that this nation can guarantee that this will not happen again, is to demand that our legislators enact real reform, common-sense rules, & regulation and yes, caps on CEO pay! I know this is the USA where you can (& have) make millions, but this isn't Las Vegas - so casino rules which have been in force must STOP! Bernie Madoff isn't the only one that should be perp walked to jail!
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Posted by: wzsteen on Sep 29, 2009 7:38 AM
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Sep 29, 2009 7:39 AM
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I am glad that the author mention the 2005 Bankruptcy Act which rarely gets discussed even here. Isn't it outrageous that a white collared criminal CEO can not only declare bankruptcy but actually get rewarded and bailed out even when he caused the company to go belly up? In sharp contrast, a blue collared worker would be lucky to get as little as 10 years in prison with little to no parole.
Another thing not mentioned is that thanks to ongoing job losses this decade, more people have found themselves desperately turning to risky ideas of staying afloat such as day trading and house flipping. Wall $treet would have been totally different were more people not into such desperate measures.
On Wall $treet and leverage, they took their chances knowing the Washington would bail them out no matter what and continues to count on Main Street to fight itself and yet depend on Wall $treet without realizing it. The pols themselves are corrupt to the core and will engage in pushing and toying with people's emotional buttons and pretend this and that as and when it suits them. The so-called "deregulation" is really nothing than redirecting regulation in favor of the big business cronies and against the people. In that sense, it's a fixed game for Wall $treet to always win but for Main Street to always lose.
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Posted by: smf1403 on Sep 29, 2009 8:35 AM
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LET'S KEEP VOTING FOR THE SMOOTH TALKING PRETTY FACES (OBAMA) AND WE CAN KEEP HAVING SOMETHING TO BITCH ABOUT.
OR:
DO A LITTLE LIGHT RESEARCH INTO THEIR VOTING RECORD (OBAMA'S) AND FIND THAT THEY CONSISTENTLY VOTED FOR CORPORATIONS AND FOR VIOLATIONS OF PEOPLE'S CIVIL RIGHTS.
THEN:
VOTE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL THAT CONSISTENTLY HAS VOTED FOR THE PEOPLE.
DENNIS KUCINICH COMES TO MIND.
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Posted by: kettleblack on Sep 29, 2009 8:57 AM
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Is it a crime to be poor in America?
The awful truth is: if the money had gone to the little guys to adjust the mortgage loans to real, not inflated home values, we would be out of this mess. But, the people responsible for the financial meltdown have taken control of the rest of the nation's wealth and doubled down at the crap table.
By blaming the little guy at the bottom, they scammed us out of trillions, redistributing the wealth to the Haves and Have-Mores.
Tim Geithner learned his lesson well from Bernanke and Goldman Sachs.
Bush-Obama: Corporate Welfare run amuck!
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Posted by: stellabloo on Sep 29, 2009 9:22 AM
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The only reason Canada was not hit as hard by the meltdown was that regulation kept our subprime mortgages at 6% of the market vs 20%.
What we do see of the meltdown is that wealthy amerikans still come up the coast on their yachts or fly up for a hunting holiday - BUT semi-skilled work that would have paid $20-25/hour a year ago to support a mortgage based on inflated real estate values now pays $15/hour. This while the cost of living has gone up 25% in last few years. And the squeeze shows no sign of improving in the next year. Or the next decade.
Nor will it until we give up our cozy dream of money-for-nothing through financial speculation. High time to leave the rat race instead of tryihg to rise above it by stepping on the other rats. Time to return to cash-as-trade for goods or services. Time to stop seeing retirement as an endless luxury cruise funded by investment and envision having enough land for a vegetable garden instead.
But hey, gardening can keep you active and healthy in your old age :.?
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Posted by: liblady2008 on Sep 29, 2009 9:42 AM
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Because of the wholesale deregulations that the Gipper and republicans gave us a few corporations own most of the MSM so they aren't going to bite the hand that feeds them.
Add in the prostitution that passes for a political system, where bribery is called lobbying, and it's a closed system, very neat, they win and we lose.
This nice little apple cart will only topple when enough people are pinched enough to actually pay attention, rip themselves away from being sedated by "American Idol" or whatever and actually figure out that they are being played big time.
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Posted by: richard0a37 on Sep 29, 2009 10:42 AM
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We are told that some one has become liable for a sum of money that is many times bigger than the actual debt.
In the real world, the opposite is of course the norm. You insure your car for £10,000, have an accident and write it off, and the insurance company then looks at the market value and only pays you $1,000
Since the money boys know all there is to know about money, you can bet your bottom dollar that not one of them actually became liable for something that was greater than the thing being insured.
The author writes: But for $1.4 trillion in subprime loans to become $140 trillion in potential losses, you need two steps in between. The most significant is a healthy dose of leverage, but leverage would not have had a platform without the help of a wondrous financial feat called securitization.
Now, what does this really mean?
In the film ‘Back To The Future’ Marty returns to the past before his housing estate was built. It was just an empty field basically – the houses were yet to be built. At some stage, the builder builds a hundred or so houses, and for this he requires a big loan.
Let’s suppose the cost of building these houses is $50,000 x 100 – he needs a loan of $5 million. He hopes to sell each house for $150,000, and if all the houses got sold, bank and builder would make plenty of money.
Suppose that no one buys the houses for $150,000. Eventually, the builder is in deep shit. The bank on the other hand – well it bundled up the property values into 100 x $150,000 into $15 million and calls it a Credit Default Option. The question is – does the organisation that takes on the CDO expect to pay out $15 million if the builder can’t sell the houses?
Let’s suppose the builder does manage to sell a few houses, but has to reduce the price to, say, $75,000. This makes the houses affordable to poorer people, so how can they get more money out of the owners. Easy. After a year, raise the interest rates to such an extent that the owners have to foreclose because they can’t afford the new monthly payments.
The bottom line is I don’t have a clue as to what’s going on, but I am pretty sure it has little to do with this particular financial scheme.
The average man in the street could well be fooled into buying a few dollars worth of crap, but the money masters I reckon are doing something totally different.
And this article does not help one iota to understand what really is going on.
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Posted by: badkitty on Sep 29, 2009 11:19 AM
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But Nomi, if you actually think this sort of thing could happen again, you must be a real optimist. I think climate change will get us first.
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Posted by: ak47blog on Sep 29, 2009 11:36 AM
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The normal logical entity or individual cannot ever grip or deal with the compelling reverse behavior pattern and the counter intuitive explosive personality of America's psychopathic leadership in financial, government, and media.
The psychopath is defined by an uninhibited gratification in criminal, sexual, or aggressive impulses and the inability to learn from past mistakes. Individuals with this disorder gain satisfaction through their antisocial behavior and lack remorse or guilt for their actions.
Goul's and zombies that exist on the blood lust of global souls. Your book is way too kind and mild with terms such as Lies, Liars, Pillage.
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Sep 29, 2009 1:07 PM
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Who could have possibly seen that going wrong?
Think! Quick! There's a book deal in there somewhere.
I dub the subtitle, Masters of the Obvious!
Next up: smoking and excessive numbers of burgers are bad for you. No, really!!!
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Posted by: Vince Coit on Sep 29, 2009 3:05 PM
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There larger picture of the history of banking, is totally lost on everyone due to a public relations campaign of an ethnic group I shall leave unnamed. I hope people can tell to whom I refer. If you want to see the world clearly, you can’t be afraid to acknowledge any group, the institution that influenced them in history. If you are unwilling to do this, you will re-commit the errors of history, really you are destined to re-commit the errors. This is quite an imperative.
Centuries ago, people did not believe something said to be of literal value (money) would be really the same as tangible good; the Christians and the Muslims thought it was dirty and kept away from it. From the fifteenth century onward, starting in no small part due to the willingness of an unnamed group to charge simple interest on loans, banking began to flourish. They maintain a substantial control of it today. We might get a good explanation of the white-collar crime endemic in the banking industry from Iranian president, Ahmadinejad. As at least the Iranian president is outside the influence of U.S. corporate money, he should be more objective in explaining how the rich who control corporations prevail in our society.
We don’t need banking in its current form. If these banking and insurance giants were too big to fail, they should be broken up. As a treatment of this problem, though mild, it would have at least been a treatment. We allowed auto industry to fail. The government stands to make a fair profit from its ownership of auto companies like GM, when it is again sold. In other societies, I have heard, such people would be shot for doing what they did. The mobility from top positions in banking or insurance, businesses to the other (as well as into government and lobbying) is very good. No one sees how these groups are interlocked. They are the few, ultra rich owners of corporations that dominate everything in the U.S, from the laws to the belief system.
An op-ed in the NY Times illustrates how the pro-corporation culture acts to adapt history. The piece neglected to mention a few uncontroversial historical facts, the inclusion of which might make that op-ed laughable. It proceeds to offer a premise for recasting what actually is today’s pro-corporation culture, into individualist terms. It suggestd lionized individualist values, of frugality, piousness, or whatnot has led to national prosperity. It’s a thin argument, given how our nation’s laws have made it very easy for the rich to act differently from those values. Isn’t this what really is/was going on with the banking scandal? – or any big money and/or power grabs today. It carefully completely omitted reference to slavery. Any mention of our nation’s history of slavery, absence of any right of them to due process of law, or any rights at all, as contributing to the said rise of our nation, would have amounted to a juxtaposition of clear thinking to the simpler system of belief that dominates in today’s U.S. pro-corporation culture. There wasn’t any recognition of the corporation in that piece. The true effect of the 14th amendment was to guarantee corporations all the same benefits of due process of law, a right intended to be accorded to all real human beings only.
Though this constitutional amendment that came out of the civil war, was not mentioned in the historical pretext of that op-ed, any mention of the civil war itself, which there wasn’t would probably have only superficially remarked how the civil war was about ending slavery. The next culture war, the only real war will be to save our Democracy from the corporations.
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Sep 29, 2009 3:47 PM
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With the country ruled by what amounts to corporate Mafiosi that use the Washington-MSM freak show as their corrupt extortion toy – what kind of world do you think is produced and for who?
People are so naïve, it’s almost laughable.
Almost.
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Posted by: eyeonit on Sep 29, 2009 5:57 PM
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This would cause the market to significantly fall lowering prices and ending their heady believes that the recession is over.
We could buy low and Wall Street would not know when we would pull out again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmFzeaqMu8U
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Posted by: jimmyaj on Sep 29, 2009 11:18 PM
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This where the Wall Street bankers now find themselves, at an analogy of an all-night poker game where the stakes have risen so high that none of the players has enough personal cash to cover the pot. Only this isn’t penny-ante poker and we aren’t playing for pocket change.
It’s also the same spot the American consumer has found himself in.
The American public is just now waking up from a giant bender that has been going on for so long the youngest of its economy’s working stiffs who are just now anteing up their first bets weren’t even born when this party began some thirty years ago.
And now the party's over. No more booze, no more poker chips, the chicks all left with somebody else. The sun's coming up and you gotta go to work in an hour.
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Posted by: eaotan on Sep 30, 2009 6:42 AM
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98 % of the diffuse matter would consist of zionists.
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Posted by: gimmie shelter on Oct 1, 2009 12:42 PM
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Only fools would ever think to put hard earned money within reach of their sleazy hands.
It is time to change the way we do business in America and one that excludes the suits without conscience who keep stealing from us. Let them choke to death on the money that they have stolen from our people.
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Posted by: LightningJoe on Oct 1, 2009 3:57 PM
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Rifkin points out that all energy production is a factor of what energy resources are cost-effective to get at, given your current or reasonably close technology and skills. His ladder of sources goes from hunt-and-gather, to wood, to coal, and then to oil. At every step, as we run out of the previous source we develop new tech to mine the next higher source. And at each step, the next rung of the ladder takes more tech and more power to exploit.
This also applies (thanks for your patience)to the financial sector, to those looking for a different kinds of energy multiplier -- that of using other peoples' efforts to get oneself rich. It used to be pretty easy to get rich as a banker, but now all the easiest ways are justly illegal -- loansharking, with userous interest rates, trading as outright gambling.
So what's left, but to go for the biggest remaining pot around -- the pool of citizens' tax monies?
This is all the inevitable development of evolution of a knee-jerk financial sector that MUST make profits, or go under. This is the end of yet another "age" of easy pickings. And those who've grown fat and lazy on other peoples' work are not going to give up easily. They will take UNTIL THEY ARE PREVENTED from taking more. They will never stop of their own free will.
WE have to stop them!
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Posted by: wjfaust on Oct 1, 2009 4:44 PM
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Of course, if the bank is just going to securitize those loans and "unload" the risk on to the unsuspecting investor, then "outstanding policy" might translate into "make as many loans as possible, regardless of loan risk".
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 29, 2009 3:48 AM
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The idea that they want us to believe is that after I live in this house I bought for 125K, it will be worth the 300K I paid out in those 30 yrs. Use does not increase Value- Only decreases it. And for Good Reason- regardless of renovations, additions and updates- the basic foundation of the house and the neighborhood have aged. 'The place to live' in 1960 was not the same place in 1990.
So not just value in the home, but the city, or even the state.
So home values may go up for the short term of a 'boom' but will ultimately lose value over time.
And anyone with half a brain knew this, but these assholes were hoping the bust would happen after they made their money. and a Good number did- through the '80's and '90's- sucking the marrow out of our economy, along with the deregulated, lopsided Global trade and labor policies. They didn't just tank this country on high risk gambling and loan sharking- they undermined the average persons ability to meet those obligations by exporting jobs, staganting wages and increasing out of pocket healthcare costs.
This wasn't just pilferring the American People by Big Finance, It was multilateral assault by numerous institutions and industries.
Thats Called a Stratedgy, an Agenda...It's also called Conspiracy. and when it's against ones own nation and her people, it's called Treason.
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Posted by: InsertNameHere on Sep 29, 2009 4:09 AM
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I was just looking at the PBS Frontline Report on the devious ways banks levy overdraft fees on debit cards.
The US System of debit / check cards is very strange to me because in Canada, your bank card provided by the bank is also a debit card, and the purchases are cleared through one system. Each transaction is $1.50. If you have overdraft on your account, you will still be able to make purchases but the cost of the overdraft protection is generally part of your bank account plan fee.
In the US, it seems a fee is charged for every transaction under your balance (in overdraft). The report says that some banks manipulate the way purchases are cleared so that they are able to charge an overdraft fee sooner and on more purchases. Just watch it.
I've got to hand it to you Americans, you've really succeeded in taking Capitalism to its utmost extreme of naked greed and brutal efficiency.
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Posted by: initiate on Sep 29, 2009 4:48 AM
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It's an utterly unproductive & unjust venture, which the rest of us are left paying for. 'Money for nothing' contributes nothing to the common good. This system, based solely on competition & greed, is destructive to the quality of all life; human & sub-human. Soon it will have to be replaced by a more equitable system, based on sharing, trust, & cooperation. There is no other choice. Making money while others starve is no longer an option. 'Speculation' is a sickness which must be cured. Such injustice contains the seeds of terrorism, war, & ecological destruction.
Instead, when governments adopt the principal of sharing of the earth's resources with all, we will save the world. It must be so, for we are all children of the same planet, & thus, all entitled to partake of it's natural wealth.
Think I'm dreaming? Just an idealist? Deluded? Fine. Then watch & wait, & stay awake. I promise not to say: 'I told you so". Meanwhile, we can stop wasting time & energy indulging in cynicism; it's just a convenient excuse for complacency--the true root of all evil.
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Posted by: CLARENCE SWINNEY on Sep 29, 2009 5:16 AM
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OBAMA TSUNAMI
I ACCEPT PRAISETIQUES NOT CRITIQUES
ANY RESPONSE IS APPRECIATED IF ONE USES FACTS-NUMBERS.
BLARNEY BLABBER GENERALIZATIONS NOT READ.
“CONSERVATIVE” IDEOLOGY GAVE US THE CURRENT “GREAT” RECESSION SAME AS IT DID IN “GREAT” DEPRESSION
LET WALL STREET GAMBLERS PLAY WITH LOADED DICE AND MARKED CARDS
FREE THE FREAK MARKET
LET RICH GET ULTRA RICH IT WILL TRICKLE DOWN TO MIDDLE CLASS
FROM 1946 TO REAGAN WAS --–THE GREAT MIDDLE CLASS YEARS---
EACH PERCENTILE INCREASED, ALMOST EVENLY, IN WEALTH AND INCOME.
ECONOMISTS CALLED IT A PICKET FENCE DISTRIBUTION.
REAGAN POLICIES BEGAN UPWARD SHIFT (ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SHIFT AN SH-T IS ONE LETTER)
IT BECAME A STEP LADDER DISTRIBUTION. EACH STEP GAINED A LITTLE AND TOP STEP(10%) WENT INTO OUTER SPACE.
HIS HUGE TAX “CUTS” FOR WEALTHY (60% CUT).
HIS HUGE TAX “INCREASES” ON THE MIDDLE CLASS (PAYROLL TAX INCREASE WAS LARGEST IN HISTORY –TAX ON 50% OF SOCIAL SECURITY INCOME--5 CENTS ON GAS)
HIS ENORMOUS INCREASE IN MILITARY SPENDING ENRICHED THE RICH STOCKHOLDERS OF DEFENSE BUSINESSES.
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Posted by: CLARENCE SWINNEY on Sep 29, 2009 5:18 AM
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Do not try usual conservative spin—“it was congress”.
Reagan 8 budgets spent more than prior 50 years.
He submitted 8 for over 7000b. 1930-1980 spent 6066b—congress returned 8 budgets to Reagan with fewer dollars in total than he had submitted to it.
Go ahead try usual conservative spin—“real” inflation adjusted dollars—no work senor—
From 1948 to 1989 Reagan spent 2.7 dollars in 8 for each “real” dollar spent in other 32 years. Comprehendez amigo? Factoids hurt? Si!
Try usual Heritage spin—Reagan tax cuts paid their way—huh! From 1983 to 1989 federal revenues increased from 599b to 990b. 391b increase. Correct. But-Reagan tax cuts were income tax cuts therefore it seems logical you measure income tax revenue increase.
319b increase. 201b was increase in payroll tax revenue from Reagan huge increase in it.
50b in excise tax increase partial from gas tax. 251b of 391b. Durn! That leaves 140b increase in income tax revenues. My math professor Dr. Hook taught me 140 in is smaller than 750 out. Factoids are miserable things.
In 1980--86% of employees had Health Insurance-In 2008---31%.
GEORGE W. BUSH DID MORE DAMAGE THAN REAGAN.
INCREASED FEDERAL SPENDING BY 118%--DEBT BY 100%
CUT TAXES FOR TOP 2.7% OR 4 TIMES AS MUCH AS BOTTOM 80%
HIS 1700 BILLION IN TAX CUTS WERE IN THE 5000B HE BORROWED.
BUSH LED US INTO TWO AWFUL SLAUGHTERAMAS. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE WERE KILLED. TENS OF THOUSANDS OF LITTLE KIDS WILL BE MAIMED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THEIR LIVES. TENS OF THOUSANDS OF WIDOWS HAVE NO WORKER TO SUPPORT THEM.
EVER KNOW AN AMERICAN SO-CALLED CHRISTIAN TO WEEP OVER THOSE HORRORS?
MILLIONS OF TEARS SHED OVER HOLOCAUST. NOT THIS ONE. I WEEP.
HE CREATED NET NEW JOBS AT 3000 PER MONTH. HORRIBLE COMPARED TO 218,000 AND 237,000 THE CARTER-CLINTON RECORDS.
THE WORLD WARNED NOT TO INVADE IRAQ.
BUSH FATHER SAID DO NOT DO IT
LEADERSHIP OF EACH MAJOR RELIGION (EXCEPT SOUTHERN BAPTIST) IN AMERICA SAID DO NOT DO IT.
POLLS IN MAJOR NATIONS SAID DO NOT DO IT.
EXCEPTIONS WERE THREE--ISRAEL AS EXPECTED-POLAND-AUSTRALIA
CHENEY TOLD RUMSFELD THE DAY AFTER 2001 INAUGURATION “PREPARE TO INVADE IRAQ”. EQUIPMENT WAS MOVED INTO KUWAIT FAR BEFORE BUSH “CHEERFUL” ANNOUNCEMENT WE WERE INVADING IRAQ TO FULFILL HIS STATEMENT TO HIS BIOGRAPHER-- “I WILL NEED A WAR TO BE A SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENT”.
WALL STREET WAS ALLOWED UNRESTRICTED WIDE-OPEN GAMBLING. IT WAS UNPRODUCTIVE. NO JOBS WERE CREATED. IT WAS SIMPLY THE RICH GAMBLING TO GET RICHER. BETTING MONEY AGAINST MONEY. ROULETTE WHEEL TYPE GAMBLING.
I BET ON RED YOU BET ON BLACK.
THE HOUSING INDUSTRY SUSTAINED GDP GROWTH BUT WASTED CAPITAL-LABOR-MATERIALS TO CONSTRUCT HOMES TOO LARGE-TOO EXPENSIVE FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS INCOME. FEDERAL RESERVE (GREENSPAN) INCREASED THE TOTAL MONEY SUPPLY IN 5 YEARS BY TWICE AS MUCH AS INCREASE OVER PRIOR TEN YEARS.
GREENSPAN GAVE CLINTON A 6.5% INTEREST RATE AND BUSH A 1%.
THIS ENCOURAGED BANKS TO BORROW MAX FROM FEDERAL RESERVE.
PLENTY MONEY PLUS LOW INTEREST=DISASTER
LOCAL BANKS WERE ALLOWED TO TRADE AND INVEST IN WALL STREET.
COURTESY OF PHIL GRAMN, REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS, PLUS PRESIDENT CLINTON WHO APPROVED ELIMINATION OF GLASS-STEAGALL RESTRICTIONS ON LOCAL BANKS.
IT KEPT BANKS FROM GAMBLERS ON WALL STREET AS IN 1920S.
WE DID NOT LEARN FROM CHANGING SAVINGS AND LOANS FROM LOCAL OWNERSHIP TO WALL STREET GAMBLERS OWNERSHIP AND MICHAEL MILKEN LED RAIDS ON CORPORATIONS.
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Posted by: CLARENCE SWINNEY on Sep 29, 2009 5:20 AM
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CRAAAASH. HOME OWNER NOW HAS $700,00 MORTGAGE ON $400,000 VALUE HOME.
FORECLOSURE HERE I COME. SPECULATORS GOT INTO THE FRENZY. BOUGHT HOMES FOR NO DOWN PAYMENT AND SMALL MONTHLY PAYMENTS BASED ON SELLING IN TWO YEARS AT HUGE PROFIT. ZAP. FORECLOSURE. IN JANUARY 2008 THE TOTAL FORECLOSURES TO DATE WERE 23% ON SPECULATION PURCHASED HOMES.
LARGE DEVELOPMENT FIRMS GOT LOW LOW INTEREST MONEY TO BUILD MANSIONS NOT AFFORDABLE HOMES FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS. THEY GOT RICH. IN CALIFORNIA A DEVELOPER BUILT A DEVELOPMENT OF $700,00 HOMES AND IN ANOTHER AREA BUILT EXACT SAME BLUEPRINT FOR $500,000. IF HE MADE $100,00 ON A $400,000 HOME HOW MUCH ON A $700,00 HOME. HE IS BEING SUED BY BUYERS OF $700,000 HOMES.
THE HOUSING FRENZY WAS BASED ON ONE ASSUMPTION. A LOGICAL ONE BASED ON HISTORY. HOUSING HAS ALWAYS APPRECIATED IN VALUE. ALWAYS IN HISTORY.
HISTORY IS FALLIBLE.
ONE HEDGE FUND (GAMBLING) MANAGER MADE 2000 MILLION IN ONE YEAR.
TWO MADE 1000 MILLION IN ONE YEAR.
TAXED AT 15% RATE.
THIS GAMBLING GREED FRENZY COST THE MIDDLE CLASS IN THE REDUCED VALUE OF THEIR HOME AFTER THE BIG CRASH. THE VALUE DECLINE OF MY HOME WAS 15%.
FROM 1981 TO 2008 IT WAS A DISASTER FOR WORKING PEOPLE AND BONANZA FOR GAMBLING PEOPLE.
WHY DID NOT CEO’S INCREASE INCOME OF THEIR WORKERS?
IN ONE YEAR THE CEO’S MADE 550 TIMES THE PAY OF THE AVERAGE WAGE IN THEIR BUSINESSES. REMEMBER THE GOOD OLD MIDDLE CLASS DAYS WHEN IT WAS 40 TIMES.
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Posted by: CLARENCE SWINNEY on Sep 29, 2009 5:21 AM
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SINCE 1980 HERE IS A BRIEF
20 YEARS=3 SO CALLED CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENTS
18 YEARS=SO CALLED CONSERVATIVE SENATE
12 YEARS=SO CALLED HOUSE
6 YEARS=TOTAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL BY SO CALLED CONSERVATIVES
2 TERRIBLE ILLEGAL WARS
TRANSFER OF JOBS TO CHINA AS WE COVERED OUR OVER-SPENDING BY THEIR LOANS
LOSS OF OUR JOB PRODUCING MANUFACTURING BASE--
HERE ARE THE RESULTS
600B SPENDING TO 4000B
1000B OF DEBT TO 11,000 +
23M NET NEW JOBS
12 YEARS OF CARTER + CLINTON GOT 33M
8 YEARS OF THE MOST SCURRILOUS ADMINISTRATION IN HISTORY PER HAYNES JOHNSON IN --PRESIDENT REAGAN=SLEEPWALKING THROUGH HISTORY
138 CHARGED WITH CRIMES WAS MORE THAN GRAND TOTAL SINCE 1900
MOST OF THEM WERE CHARGED IN CRIMES INVOLVING MONEY.
THE NUMBERS ARE AVAILABLE. THE HISTORY IS VERY CLEAR.
THE GREAT MIDDLE CLASS GOT THE GREAT BIG SHAFTING.
THE STRUGGLING RICH BECAME THE ULTRA-RICH
SMASHED WALL STREET
SMASHED ECONOMY
SMASHED HOUSING
SMASHED CHILDRENS FUTURE WITH DEBT
SMASHED WORKERS INCOME
SMASHED AMERICAS REPUTATION WORLDWIDE
STARTED THE DECLINE OF THE AMERICAN EMPIRE LIKE ROME-SPAIN-HOLLAND-BRITAIN
DEMOCRATS HISTORY OF BUILDING GOOD THINGS FOR ALL AMERICANS
CONSERVATIVE HISTORY OF FIGHTING THOSE GOOD THINGS
WHY DO YOU SEND CONSERVATIVES BACK TO WASHINGTON?
I AM OLD AND UGLY AND I APPROVED THIS MESSAGE OF DELIVERANCE
FROM CONSERVATIVE FALSEHOODS
I ASK ONLY IF I AM WRONG GIVE ME FACTS AND I WILL CORRECT.
I ERR BUT I DO NOT WRITE WITH INTENT TO DECEIVE
8-26-09 USA TODAY—CBO AND CEA PROJECT DEFICITS OF 9 TRILLION OVER NEXT TEN YEARS. REPUBLICANS, PER USUAL, JUMP ON OBAMA CASE.
REP. BOEHNER “TODAY’S REPORTS CONFIRM WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN TRYING TO HIDE.
THE DEMOCRATS OUT-OF–CONTROL SPENDING BINGE IS BURYING OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN UNDER A MOUNTAIN OF UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT”.
This is so stupid it is a good laugh. He took us on a Spend-Borrow binge from 1000B of debt to 11,000B. He took us on a spend binge from 600B to 4000B.
These guys have one simple trait—deceive—distract from truth—attack attack
Yes! No question. It is going to take much Spend-Tax-Borrow for years to correct the mess created in prior twenty years of conservative control.
How easy the people forget the Balanced Budgets=Surpluses under Clinton and 8 good years.
WOW—8 YEARS=5000B + INCREASE IN DEBT UNDER BOEHNER-BUSH
1830B IN CLINTON LAST YEAR OF SPENDING TO 4000B UNDER BUSH LAST YEAR OF SPENDING
SPENDERS + DEBTORS + LIARS = CONSERVATIVES
ONE MAJOR TRUTH—IF A CONSERVATIVE LEADER SAYS IT --IT IS PART TRUE.
NEVER TRUST A CONSERVATIVE IN WASHINGTON. NEVER. NEVER. NEVER.
If I err give me facts I will correct. cswinney2@triad.rr.com
Political historian since 1991 on Reagan-Clinton-Bush II
Author=-Lifeaholic-Workaholic to Lifeaholic Success
Author-unpublished
ALL AMERICAN PARTY-How Democrats created a Great Middle Class and Conservatives are determined to destroy it
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Posted by: CLARENCE SWINNEY on Sep 29, 2009 5:45 AM
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Cut Clinton 6.5% Interest Rate to 1% for Bush.
Increased Total Money Supply by 4000 Billion in five years
2001-2005
Like S&L Debacle--Vaults are wide open pals come and get it.
Clinton got shafted by him. In 1996 campaign for reelection Greenspan increased Interest Rates seven times.
June 1999 to June 2000 he increased Interest Rates six times.
There was nothing to justify those increases except elect a Repuglinut.
Is it not strange that our FINANCIAL system is managed by those off WALL STREET.
Many out of Goldman Saks
Buddie Buddie Buddie Buddie
Where are the Academics???
Robert Reich types.
cswinney2@triad.rr.com
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Posted by: frantic1971 on Sep 29, 2009 6:22 AM
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Growing up in the 1960's, like other kids I was constantly fed stuff about how evil the Soviet Union was, how THEY did this sort of thing, how THEY screwed the poor dumb people over. Hell! We've become just like them!
It's Orwell's 1984 in the guise of uber-capitalism.
Man---we need to stage a "France--1789" in this country!
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Posted by: dover23 on Sep 29, 2009 7:07 AM
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http://www.pkarchive.org/column/5201.html
However, let's give credit where credit is due: Mr. Greenspan has cut rates since then. And while some of us may have been urging him to move even faster, the Fed's four interest-rate cuts since the slowdown became apparent represent an unusually aggressive response by historical standards. It's still not clear that Mr. Greenspan has caught up with the curve — let's have at least one more rate cut, please — but the interest-rate cuts do, cross your fingers, seem to be having an effect.
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Posted by: Gravitas on Sep 29, 2009 7:08 AM
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HIGHEST BIDDER TAKES ALL
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Washington has become Versailles. We are ruled, entertained and informed by courtiers. The popular media are courtiers. The Democrats, like the Republicans, are courtiers. Our pundits and experts are courtiers. We are captivated by the hollow stagecraft of political theater as we are ruthlessly stripped of power. It is smoke and mirrors, tricks and con games. We are being had. - Chris Hedges
You say yer life's a bum deal
'N yer up against the wall...
Well, people, you ain't even got no
Deal at all
'Cause what they do
In Washington
They just takes care
of NUMBER ONE
An' NUMBER ONE ain't YOU
You ain't even NUMBER TWO
- Frank Zappa ‘The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing’
“They call it the 'American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it.” - George Carlin
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Posted by: avidAmerican on Sep 29, 2009 7:13 AM
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 29, 2009 7:31 AM
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Capitalism & money aren't the root of all evil, it is the lust for and winner take all mentality that has been at the root of this evil! From the politicians that are being funded not just through their PAC's but because many have jumped to Lobby for the very industries that they de-regulated for! These politico's would like for you to believe that "government doesn't work" , then if that's the case ARE THEY NOT REALLY THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM, AND THEREFORE NEED TO BE VOTED OUT?!
And these political whores are correct, "our government" doesn't work when "WE THE PEOPLE" continue to vote these people into office without holding them accountable to US! People democracy isn't just about voting, and it damn sure isn't about "a party" - it is about every citizen being informed about the issues, and "their representative" voting not just in the best interest of the state they represent but for the nation as a whole, and we the people demanding accountability from the people we've put into government!
The only way that this nation can guarantee that this will not happen again, is to demand that our legislators enact real reform, common-sense rules, & regulation and yes, caps on CEO pay! I know this is the USA where you can (& have) make millions, but this isn't Las Vegas - so casino rules which have been in force must STOP! Bernie Madoff isn't the only one that should be perp walked to jail!
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Posted by: wzsteen on Sep 29, 2009 7:38 AM
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Jess
Ultimate Anonymity
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» the same as your link--don't click on it! (identity theft)
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Sep 29, 2009 7:39 AM
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I am glad that the author mention the 2005 Bankruptcy Act which rarely gets discussed even here. Isn't it outrageous that a white collared criminal CEO can not only declare bankruptcy but actually get rewarded and bailed out even when he caused the company to go belly up? In sharp contrast, a blue collared worker would be lucky to get as little as 10 years in prison with little to no parole.
Another thing not mentioned is that thanks to ongoing job losses this decade, more people have found themselves desperately turning to risky ideas of staying afloat such as day trading and house flipping. Wall $treet would have been totally different were more people not into such desperate measures.
On Wall $treet and leverage, they took their chances knowing the Washington would bail them out no matter what and continues to count on Main Street to fight itself and yet depend on Wall $treet without realizing it. The pols themselves are corrupt to the core and will engage in pushing and toying with people's emotional buttons and pretend this and that as and when it suits them. The so-called "deregulation" is really nothing than redirecting regulation in favor of the big business cronies and against the people. In that sense, it's a fixed game for Wall $treet to always win but for Main Street to always lose.
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Posted by: smf1403 on Sep 29, 2009 8:35 AM
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LET'S KEEP VOTING FOR THE SMOOTH TALKING PRETTY FACES (OBAMA) AND WE CAN KEEP HAVING SOMETHING TO BITCH ABOUT.
OR:
DO A LITTLE LIGHT RESEARCH INTO THEIR VOTING RECORD (OBAMA'S) AND FIND THAT THEY CONSISTENTLY VOTED FOR CORPORATIONS AND FOR VIOLATIONS OF PEOPLE'S CIVIL RIGHTS.
THEN:
VOTE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL THAT CONSISTENTLY HAS VOTED FOR THE PEOPLE.
DENNIS KUCINICH COMES TO MIND.
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Posted by: kettleblack on Sep 29, 2009 8:57 AM
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Is it a crime to be poor in America?
The awful truth is: if the money had gone to the little guys to adjust the mortgage loans to real, not inflated home values, we would be out of this mess. But, the people responsible for the financial meltdown have taken control of the rest of the nation's wealth and doubled down at the crap table.
By blaming the little guy at the bottom, they scammed us out of trillions, redistributing the wealth to the Haves and Have-Mores.
Tim Geithner learned his lesson well from Bernanke and Goldman Sachs.
Bush-Obama: Corporate Welfare run amuck!
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Posted by: billwald on Sep 29, 2009 8:58 AM
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Posted by: stellabloo on Sep 29, 2009 9:22 AM
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The only reason Canada was not hit as hard by the meltdown was that regulation kept our subprime mortgages at 6% of the market vs 20%.
What we do see of the meltdown is that wealthy amerikans still come up the coast on their yachts or fly up for a hunting holiday - BUT semi-skilled work that would have paid $20-25/hour a year ago to support a mortgage based on inflated real estate values now pays $15/hour. This while the cost of living has gone up 25% in last few years. And the squeeze shows no sign of improving in the next year. Or the next decade.
Nor will it until we give up our cozy dream of money-for-nothing through financial speculation. High time to leave the rat race instead of tryihg to rise above it by stepping on the other rats. Time to return to cash-as-trade for goods or services. Time to stop seeing retirement as an endless luxury cruise funded by investment and envision having enough land for a vegetable garden instead.
But hey, gardening can keep you active and healthy in your old age :.?
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Posted by: liblady2008 on Sep 29, 2009 9:42 AM
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Because of the wholesale deregulations that the Gipper and republicans gave us a few corporations own most of the MSM so they aren't going to bite the hand that feeds them.
Add in the prostitution that passes for a political system, where bribery is called lobbying, and it's a closed system, very neat, they win and we lose.
This nice little apple cart will only topple when enough people are pinched enough to actually pay attention, rip themselves away from being sedated by "American Idol" or whatever and actually figure out that they are being played big time.
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Posted by: richard0a37 on Sep 29, 2009 10:42 AM
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We are told that some one has become liable for a sum of money that is many times bigger than the actual debt.
In the real world, the opposite is of course the norm. You insure your car for £10,000, have an accident and write it off, and the insurance company then looks at the market value and only pays you $1,000
Since the money boys know all there is to know about money, you can bet your bottom dollar that not one of them actually became liable for something that was greater than the thing being insured.
The author writes: But for $1.4 trillion in subprime loans to become $140 trillion in potential losses, you need two steps in between. The most significant is a healthy dose of leverage, but leverage would not have had a platform without the help of a wondrous financial feat called securitization.
Now, what does this really mean?
In the film ‘Back To The Future’ Marty returns to the past before his housing estate was built. It was just an empty field basically – the houses were yet to be built. At some stage, the builder builds a hundred or so houses, and for this he requires a big loan.
Let’s suppose the cost of building these houses is $50,000 x 100 – he needs a loan of $5 million. He hopes to sell each house for $150,000, and if all the houses got sold, bank and builder would make plenty of money.
Suppose that no one buys the houses for $150,000. Eventually, the builder is in deep shit. The bank on the other hand – well it bundled up the property values into 100 x $150,000 into $15 million and calls it a Credit Default Option. The question is – does the organisation that takes on the CDO expect to pay out $15 million if the builder can’t sell the houses?
Let’s suppose the builder does manage to sell a few houses, but has to reduce the price to, say, $75,000. This makes the houses affordable to poorer people, so how can they get more money out of the owners. Easy. After a year, raise the interest rates to such an extent that the owners have to foreclose because they can’t afford the new monthly payments.
The bottom line is I don’t have a clue as to what’s going on, but I am pretty sure it has little to do with this particular financial scheme.
The average man in the street could well be fooled into buying a few dollars worth of crap, but the money masters I reckon are doing something totally different.
And this article does not help one iota to understand what really is going on.
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Posted by: badkitty on Sep 29, 2009 11:19 AM
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But Nomi, if you actually think this sort of thing could happen again, you must be a real optimist. I think climate change will get us first.
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Posted by: ak47blog on Sep 29, 2009 11:36 AM
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The normal logical entity or individual cannot ever grip or deal with the compelling reverse behavior pattern and the counter intuitive explosive personality of America's psychopathic leadership in financial, government, and media.
The psychopath is defined by an uninhibited gratification in criminal, sexual, or aggressive impulses and the inability to learn from past mistakes. Individuals with this disorder gain satisfaction through their antisocial behavior and lack remorse or guilt for their actions.
Goul's and zombies that exist on the blood lust of global souls. Your book is way too kind and mild with terms such as Lies, Liars, Pillage.
21st Century Reverse Pyramid: MIDDLE AGES ATROCITIES MERGE 21st ...
Sep 12, 2009 ... GREATEST EXPORTER OF VIOLENCE MIDDLE AGES ATROCITIES MERGE WITH AMERICAN MASS MURDER AMERICAN IMPERIAL FORCED IDEOLOGY ...
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Sep 29, 2009 1:07 PM
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Who could have possibly seen that going wrong?
Think! Quick! There's a book deal in there somewhere.
I dub the subtitle, Masters of the Obvious!
Next up: smoking and excessive numbers of burgers are bad for you. No, really!!!
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Posted by: Vince Coit on Sep 29, 2009 3:05 PM
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There larger picture of the history of banking, is totally lost on everyone due to a public relations campaign of an ethnic group I shall leave unnamed. I hope people can tell to whom I refer. If you want to see the world clearly, you can’t be afraid to acknowledge any group, the institution that influenced them in history. If you are unwilling to do this, you will re-commit the errors of history, really you are destined to re-commit the errors. This is quite an imperative.
Centuries ago, people did not believe something said to be of literal value (money) would be really the same as tangible good; the Christians and the Muslims thought it was dirty and kept away from it. From the fifteenth century onward, starting in no small part due to the willingness of an unnamed group to charge simple interest on loans, banking began to flourish. They maintain a substantial control of it today. We might get a good explanation of the white-collar crime endemic in the banking industry from Iranian president, Ahmadinejad. As at least the Iranian president is outside the influence of U.S. corporate money, he should be more objective in explaining how the rich who control corporations prevail in our society.
We don’t need banking in its current form. If these banking and insurance giants were too big to fail, they should be broken up. As a treatment of this problem, though mild, it would have at least been a treatment. We allowed auto industry to fail. The government stands to make a fair profit from its ownership of auto companies like GM, when it is again sold. In other societies, I have heard, such people would be shot for doing what they did. The mobility from top positions in banking or insurance, businesses to the other (as well as into government and lobbying) is very good. No one sees how these groups are interlocked. They are the few, ultra rich owners of corporations that dominate everything in the U.S, from the laws to the belief system.
An op-ed in the NY Times illustrates how the pro-corporation culture acts to adapt history. The piece neglected to mention a few uncontroversial historical facts, the inclusion of which might make that op-ed laughable. It proceeds to offer a premise for recasting what actually is today’s pro-corporation culture, into individualist terms. It suggestd lionized individualist values, of frugality, piousness, or whatnot has led to national prosperity. It’s a thin argument, given how our nation’s laws have made it very easy for the rich to act differently from those values. Isn’t this what really is/was going on with the banking scandal? – or any big money and/or power grabs today. It carefully completely omitted reference to slavery. Any mention of our nation’s history of slavery, absence of any right of them to due process of law, or any rights at all, as contributing to the said rise of our nation, would have amounted to a juxtaposition of clear thinking to the simpler system of belief that dominates in today’s U.S. pro-corporation culture. There wasn’t any recognition of the corporation in that piece. The true effect of the 14th amendment was to guarantee corporations all the same benefits of due process of law, a right intended to be accorded to all real human beings only.
Though this constitutional amendment that came out of the civil war, was not mentioned in the historical pretext of that op-ed, any mention of the civil war itself, which there wasn’t would probably have only superficially remarked how the civil war was about ending slavery. The next culture war, the only real war will be to save our Democracy from the corporations.
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Sep 29, 2009 3:47 PM
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With the country ruled by what amounts to corporate Mafiosi that use the Washington-MSM freak show as their corrupt extortion toy – what kind of world do you think is produced and for who?
People are so naïve, it’s almost laughable.
Almost.
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Posted by: eyeonit on Sep 29, 2009 5:57 PM
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This would cause the market to significantly fall lowering prices and ending their heady believes that the recession is over.
We could buy low and Wall Street would not know when we would pull out again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmFzeaqMu8U
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Posted by: jimmyaj on Sep 29, 2009 11:18 PM
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This where the Wall Street bankers now find themselves, at an analogy of an all-night poker game where the stakes have risen so high that none of the players has enough personal cash to cover the pot. Only this isn’t penny-ante poker and we aren’t playing for pocket change.
It’s also the same spot the American consumer has found himself in.
The American public is just now waking up from a giant bender that has been going on for so long the youngest of its economy’s working stiffs who are just now anteing up their first bets weren’t even born when this party began some thirty years ago.
And now the party's over. No more booze, no more poker chips, the chicks all left with somebody else. The sun's coming up and you gotta go to work in an hour.
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Posted by: eaotan on Sep 30, 2009 6:42 AM
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98 % of the diffuse matter would consist of zionists.
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» This is a ludicrous, hateful lie.
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Posted by: gimmie shelter on Oct 1, 2009 12:42 PM
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Only fools would ever think to put hard earned money within reach of their sleazy hands.
It is time to change the way we do business in America and one that excludes the suits without conscience who keep stealing from us. Let them choke to death on the money that they have stolen from our people.
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Posted by: LightningJoe on Oct 1, 2009 3:57 PM
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Rifkin points out that all energy production is a factor of what energy resources are cost-effective to get at, given your current or reasonably close technology and skills. His ladder of sources goes from hunt-and-gather, to wood, to coal, and then to oil. At every step, as we run out of the previous source we develop new tech to mine the next higher source. And at each step, the next rung of the ladder takes more tech and more power to exploit.
This also applies (thanks for your patience)to the financial sector, to those looking for a different kinds of energy multiplier -- that of using other peoples' efforts to get oneself rich. It used to be pretty easy to get rich as a banker, but now all the easiest ways are justly illegal -- loansharking, with userous interest rates, trading as outright gambling.
So what's left, but to go for the biggest remaining pot around -- the pool of citizens' tax monies?
This is all the inevitable development of evolution of a knee-jerk financial sector that MUST make profits, or go under. This is the end of yet another "age" of easy pickings. And those who've grown fat and lazy on other peoples' work are not going to give up easily. They will take UNTIL THEY ARE PREVENTED from taking more. They will never stop of their own free will.
WE have to stop them!
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Posted by: wjfaust on Oct 1, 2009 4:44 PM
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Of course, if the bank is just going to securitize those loans and "unload" the risk on to the unsuspecting investor, then "outstanding policy" might translate into "make as many loans as possible, regardless of loan risk".
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Posted by: cbstogner on Oct 2, 2009 8:17 PM
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