ECONOMY  
comments_imageCOMMENTS: 88

Hundreds of Thousands of Workers Will Lose Unemployment Benefits Soon

Workers laid off early in the downturn are soon to be left without the basic sustenance of an unemployment check.
July 10, 2009  |  
 
 
LIKE THIS ARTICLE ?
Join our mailing list:

Sign up to stay up to date on the latest Economy headlines via email.

 
 
Advertisement
 

WASHINGTON -- When a virulent disease is ravaging you like a cancer, you don't want a cacophony of voices promoting different or contradictory cures. Yet that is what we're starting to hear about the economic crisis, not only from a politically divided -- and pretty scared -- capital, but from within the Obama administration itself. In just the past few days, Vice President Joe Biden has said the young administration misread the depth of the recession -- an honest account, since most private economists did as well. Laura Tyson, an outside economic adviser to the White House, said it's wise to start preparing another stimulus package.

Then President Barack Obama made everything perfectly muddy when he said in an ABC News interview that the seriousness of the downturn and how to attack it is "something we wrestle with constantly." Yet in the next breath, he expressed concern about the burgeoning deficit. But if anyone's looking for some clear voices, there are 650,000 of them just waiting to be heard. That is roughly the number of long-term unemployed who will begin losing their jobless benefits in September, according to the National Employment Law Project. Remember, the recession didn't start last fall when the government bailed out AIG and the financial system froze. It began in December 2007 -- and 6.5 million jobs have been lost since then. Depending on which state and the sort of triggers that apply to benefits, hundreds of thousands of workers laid off early in the downturn are soon to be left without the basic sustenance of an unemployment check.

Meanwhile, the Labor Department says, the number of unemployed people out of work for 27 weeks or longer continues to grow, reaching 4.4 million last month. In June, three out of 10 jobless workers had been out of work for at least six months, according to the department's data. The stimulus package the president signed soon after taking office did provide extended benefits, and boosted weekly payments. But even that extension runs out on Dec. 26, and would not apply to all the unemployed. Does anyone really believe that a significant portion of the unemployed will have found new work by then? Hardly. Both private and government economists now predict that unemployment will continue to rise at least through the end of this year.

"We can't ignore this moment when all these folks are running out (of benefits)," says Maurice Emsellem of the National Employment Law Project.

"That needs to be a top priority, to help these workers." Let's stop kidding ourselves. In no contemporary economic crisis -- not even those that unfolded on the Republicans' watch -- has Congress left the unemployed completely in the lurch. So some sort of spending package -- call it stimulus, call it stopgap emergency aid, whatever works -- is going to have to be passed.

The unemployment emergency helps feed another crisis Congress is going to be forced to address: the state budget disasters unfolding around the country. So far, 42 states have cut budgets that already had been enacted for fiscal 2009, according to the National Governors Association. More and deeper cuts are expected next year.

Already states have laid off and furloughed workers -- including, in some states, the very workers who process unemployment claims. Generally speaking, states are required to balance their budgets each year, a mandate that forces them to pull money out of the economy through spending reductions and tax hikes, counteracting the federal government's efforts to juice things up. "That is what happened during the Great Depression, we had states working against what the federal government was doing," says Heidi Shierholz, an economist with the Economic Policy Institute. With red states and blue, Republican governors and Democrats, all struggling against the same relentless, recession-driven drops in tax revenue, an almost irresistible political coalition for more aid to states eventually will take shape. And with the fast-approaching September deadline for extending some unemployment benefits, there will likely emerge one of those must-pass measures that may or may not be called another stimulus bill.

Any hot air expended trying to stop it serves no purpose but to fuel political fires. Remember, that is the whole point of those now huffing and puffing most heartily. They don't want to figure a way out of this morass; they just want to figure out a way to unseat those now in office.

Marie Cocco's e-mail address is mariecocco(at)washpost.com.

(c) 2009, Washington Post Writers Group


Marie Cocco is a prize-winning syndicated columnist on political and cultural topics for The Washington Post Writers Group. She is a frequent commentator on national TV and radio shows.
Email
Print
Share
Post on reddit
Post on stumbleupon
Post on facebook
Post on digg
Post on twitter
Post on delicious
LIKED THIS ARTICLE? JOIN OUR EMAIL LIST
Stay up to date with the latest Economy headlines via email
See more stories tagged with: economy, obama, workers, biden, unemployment, financial crisis, aig, joblessness


Comments are closed-

RE: Why do they refuse to work?
Posted by: adp3d on Jul 10, 2009 2:11 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
From a new book review at NPR.org by Author Nick Reding called Methland - "... the agricultural industry has consolidated over time, and the working class has had to work harder for less — which has made meth more attractive. As an example, he cites a meatpacking plant that was bought in 1987; the new company cut wages from $18 an hour to $6.20."

Now tell me Honkey, do you work for $6.20 an hour?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» It's 2009 Posted by: johnwinthrop
» RE: It's 2009 Posted by: richholland
» They Still Aren't Back to 1990 Wages Posted by: FoonTheElder
» RE: It's 2009 Posted by: eggnog2464
» RE: It's 2009 Posted by: johnwinthrop

Comments are closed-

Uh, no...
Posted by: orda on Jul 10, 2009 5:04 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It's not that Americans refuse to take white collar jobs, it's that companies bring in workers who are cheaper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrapEizmuyM&feature=related

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Uh, no... Posted by: bccmeteorites
» RE: Uh, no... Posted by: monkeywrench

Comments are closed-

"...hire engineers, computer programs and PhDs from Asia ..."
Posted by: xvictor on Jul 10, 2009 5:18 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Are you for real??? Companies hire Asians because they are willing to work CHEAP!! Even low level HS grad secretaries make more money than that. The IT folks constantly lobby Congress for more H1B slaves, er, workers, based on a FALSE assumption that there are not enough US grads filling the positions. They'd rather hire Asians than pay an experienced US computer programmer a fair salary, or even an equivalently lower salary.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

RE: Was this meant to be a joke?
Posted by: Jasonix on Jul 10, 2009 5:21 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I sure hope so, because if not, you're one friggin' idiot. We don't have import visas for foreign engineers because "Americans don't want the jobs." I can't believe that I'd honestly have to explain this.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Actually the asshole has a point...
Posted by: sausage on Jul 10, 2009 6:52 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
and as usual he gets it bass ackwards.

He's right that companies like Microsoft, though he presents no evidence to back up his assertion, hire H1B engineers from China and India over their American counterparts. But it is not because American won't do that kind of work but because the MBAs running the company pay the immigrants less.

Labor is a company's most fungible expense. Lower wages equal higher profit margine which translate into higher stock prices that translate into more stock options for the MBAs running the company.

The same kind of thinking percolates on down through the US economy. I was this kind of thinking that motived the Rubashkins to actively recruit illegal immigrants for their Agriprocessors meat packing plant.

Simple, no?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Re: A "Meat-Packing" Job May Not Be As Good A Job As You Think...
Posted by: wtfo on Jul 10, 2009 8:04 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Spoken like a true American capitalist - at least one who apparently is gainfully employed (at the moment)...

It is interesting that I read this comment shortly after reading about what "meat-packing jobs" really are like in our current corporate-controlled food industry. Please read "Fast Food Nation" and then reconsider your comment.

Also, remember that all anyone can really strive for in employment these days is a decent pay for a decent day's work. Then, it sure would be nice to be treated as a valuable contributor to the success of the company and not just as a "business expense" or an "expense of production" - something to be minimized at all costs. The days of being able to choose employment from a reputable company that is genuinely considerate of the long-term economic, health, and quality of life needs of their employees are long gone. We are all just short-term mechanisms of production in the American economic system today.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Most Dangerous Industry in the U.S. Posted by: FoonTheElder

Comments are closed-

You're an idiot
Posted by: BlueTigress on Jul 10, 2009 9:37 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Illegals and H1B visa workers are brought in to gut the wage structure.

There are loads of programmers who would love to work, but they are the companies cannot agree on a living wage.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

RE: Why do they refuse to (re) educate themselves?
Posted by: Unrepentant Heretic on Jul 10, 2009 10:15 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Honkey got it half right. To expect a $ 20 wage when the market wage is 6.20 is ridiculous.

During the last decades some 15 million jobs have been lost and some 17 million new jobs have been created. Only about 300,000 job losses can be attributed to outsourcing.
But the 15 million that lost their jobs have not be able to fill the new 17 million jobs, why?

There a two main reasons. They had no education or skills to begin with. And they refused to relocate and educate themselves to acquire these skills necessary to be employed in the 21th century.

I am willing to extend unemployment benefits for retraining but noway am I willing to pay for autoworkers that are laid off and refuse to reeducate themselves, demanding a job in the automotive sector, a dying industry.

The Scandinavian countries got it right. No unemployment benefit if you do not retrain.No unemployment benefit if you don't move to get an offered job.

The Scandinavian labor unions new that the only way to compete and keep your high wags was higher skilled workers. Swedish labor unions were ruthless to unprofitable corporations, if they could not pay the wage, they should be shut down. Wage security has always been more important in the Scandinavian countries than job security.

A Scandinavian labor union official would find it insulting to expect a low skilled work in a meat plant being paid $ 20 an hour when market wages was $ 6.20. They would have shut down that factory long time ago and would say to the worker unwilling to retrain, tough luck!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

RE: Why do they refuse to work?
Posted by: assrocket on Jul 11, 2009 10:26 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
you have clearly never asked any of these H1B folks doing white collar work about their work conditions - they are systematically paid less, denied benefits, and are generally easier to push around (for employers) than US citizens. One of the things about the H1B visa that employers like so much is that they can always revoke their sponsorship of a resident alien, transforming that person suddenly into an 'illegal' alien. In case you've had your head in the sands of history your entire life, I'd like to point out that US capital has always considered squeezing the workers for every drop of blood a favorite pastime. As US labor laws hew more towards fairness and justice for US citizen-workers, the demand on the part of US capitalists for non-citizen workers who are more easily dominated increases. Thus it has always been, and so long as there are such people as capitalists legally bound to maximize short-term profit for shareholders, thus it shall ever be. You want to stop immigation? Abolish capitalism and its handmaiden, neoliberal globalization. Read a book or two and educate yourself before commenting, and perhaps you will one day learn to make sense of the world as it actually is, not as some ideological fantasy of 'lazy workers screwing it up for the rest of us'. I am into giving folks the benefit of the doubt, as aside from ignorance, the only other motivation to make the comment you did can only be pure hatred. As I said, I am into giving folks the benefit of the doubt, hence my declaration at the beginning that you must be essentially ignorant on the subject.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

RE: Why do they refuse to work?
Posted by: lindaamick on Jul 11, 2009 2:32 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I am a volunteer working with the Lost Boys of Sudan most of whom ALL now work in meatpacking plants from Texas, to Okla, to Kansas, to Neb to SD. The hourly wage is 11.50 per hour. AH that it was $20 per hour. These young men would be ecstatic. Also, regularly, the maximum guaranteed hours per week is 32.

Please verify your facts.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

States Are Sovereign
Posted by: johnwinthrop on Jul 10, 2009 2:48 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Obama's stimulus has been a bust. Much money goes to states that do politically popular projects or keep the incrowd employed shuffling papers. There are too few construction projects or rehab of bridges and roads we heard so much about. The latter generate more jobs than just allowing the feds to pay for a revenue analyst in a Comptroller's office who the state could pay for and should pay for.

Extending unemployment benefits does inject cash into the system and goes to the worst problem of a recession: folks with no means to survive. Unemployment checks aren't great but if medicaid, food stamps and if necessary mortgage forbearance can be tossed in, people can make it to better times.

But just throwing money to states too cheap to tax the wealthy, corporations and those working professionals like doctors who are doing just fine(here come the Alternetter doctor lovers!) is absurd.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Built to fail. Posted by: rafaeltoral
» RE: Built to fail. Posted by: assrocket
» RE: States Are Sovereign Posted by: monkeywrench

Comments are closed-

without political changes
Posted by: richholland on Jul 10, 2009 3:43 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
face it FDR had also to deal with socialisme and trade unions...
Now the communisme lost, trade unions are invisible.

The system that created the shit, cannot create something else.
Even the Nazis and the Stalin commies knew this fact.
Shouting the mantra OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA is not enough.
Think is it fair some families have billions and so many have nothing.
Of course Honkey, this crisis is related to the underpaid workers.
In Europe we pay livable wages sothat the shops can survive.
Middleclass can pay taxes... etc.

Our government quaranteed houseowners mortgages to $ 350.000
The banks were angry but the people are saved.
Start rethinking look at USA before 1980..

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

States are refusing or hoarding stimulus money
Posted by: Sushi on Jul 10, 2009 4:50 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Look to the states (especially Republican ones), where they are either refusing to take stimulus funds or using the money to shore up their budgets.

They DON'T WANT anything Obama does to succeed, so they can point to the "failure" as a reason to vote Republicans back into office. Failure means hungry, desperate, scared and angry constituents, who will ignorantly buy into whatever they are told.

Also, notice that mainstream media no longer does any meaningful journalism. They feed us pop culture "news" top billing, then give partial stories, slanted to "let you decide" when they've not told the entire truth.

Sushi

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Obama is basically a republican. Posted by: rafaeltoral

Comments are closed-

Extend the lifeline!!!
Posted by: xvictor on Jul 10, 2009 5:33 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The cost to the government for extending unemployment benefits is comparatively inexpensive, maybe 8 or 10 billion bucks at a time.

While the dismal economic storm is raging, the best the government can do without ruining free market initiatives is to merely throw out a lifeline to the disadvantaged folks. Or, if you will, provide a community shelter of sorts while the storm is blasting thru. Once the storm passes, people should be able to secure suitable work. This is what unemployment insurance was intended for. What the people need is time for things to blow over. Those 800 billion dollar stimulus deals is a huge waste of money, very expensive and inefficient, and will not bring the desired effect.

The extension of unemployment benefits, on the other hand, should be the only thing the government should provide, and it's so much cheaper.

it's funny that those who bitch about unemployment compensations and stimulus packages don't say a word regarding open expense accounts garnered by the Iraq/Afghan debacle. They say nothing about the cost of those conflicts, which run about 150 billion dollars every couple of months or so. Do some soul searching, folks.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Before we can fix things, we have to recognize where we are...
Posted by: nmeyer on Jul 10, 2009 6:22 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Our financial system is cancerous and greed never self-polices. Our politicians are corporate or religious prostitutes. Our citizen's civic IQ is low and further dampened by the escape drugs of pop culture/entertainment and pro-sports. Our governments' revenue-generating mechanisms rob every worker and every consumer on nearly every action and ignore something that is co-created by nearly every citizen -- the unimproved value of land.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

We have become to proud
Posted by: fantasypoliticsusa on Jul 10, 2009 6:53 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
27 weeks being unemployed is a long time. And looking for a job sucks a lot. I agree with the above comments from the Honkey though. Part of our problem as a nation is we have become to proud. Once we have earned 25$ an hour it is hard to go back to say 8$ an hour. It only comes to a little more than what we could earn sitting on our asses getting unemployment benefits. I know of people that will refuse to take a job because of that. I call them lazy, sucking off the tit of the government. There are lots of people with the same problems that somehow pull themselves out of it. Then there are the others that complain, point fingers, and look for sympathy.
This is not a red state blue state issue as the writer wants you to think. Some states have turned down the stimulus money because after the money stops the state will be responsible to pick up the bill. They refuse the stimulus money because it is short sighted to take it. If they can't pay the bills now, what makes you think they can pay out more money when the stimulus money stops? It will mean more state taxes due this stimulus mess. More of a burden to those that do or can stay working.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: We have become to proud Posted by: somegirl
» Well said Posted by: BlueTigress
» RE: We have become to proud Posted by: somegirl
» RE: We have become to proud Posted by: cmaciain
» You would do well in China. Posted by: rafaeltoral
» RE: You would do well in China. Posted by: assrocket

Comments are closed-

Then...
Posted by: farleya on Jul 10, 2009 6:59 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...Yes, and thanks to a top-heavy "bailout" that's never "trickled down", we can all look forward to the social unrest that occurs when too much money falls (literally rains !) into too few hands, ... "Let them eat cake...". ... Forbid that U.S. citizens should learn to focus their ire upon those who have gleaned the greatest profits from our pockets.

Farley Andrews

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Then... Posted by: assrocket

Comments are closed-

Will I shed any tears?
Posted by: sausage on Jul 10, 2009 7:04 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I'm sorry but the meaning of the word "worker" has expanded over the years to where it is almost nonsensical.

The traditionally "work" meant doing something physical in nature. Movement and muscles were involved, the body sweated.

Today we call sitting at a desk, eating shit from the MBAs in the executive suite and bothering people over the phone "work."

So every time I hear of a gaggle of stock brokers or insurance agents being laid off, downsized or outsourced, not a tear drop falls.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» It most certainly does Posted by: sausage
» HAHAHA! Posted by: assrocket
» Is your first name "judge"? Posted by: johnwinthrop

Comments are closed-

unemployed in Georgia
Posted by: shine0854 on Jul 10, 2009 7:35 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Had those billions of dollars been equally divided between all the social security numbers of the people with incomes below, say, 250K annually, the people would have 'stimulated' this economy and it would have self leveled....we could forget about this discussion of unemployment benefits. i have been on UI since February after being laid off, company closed. i have applied to literally hundreds of jobs and just this month have finally reached the point of being seriously considered for two different positions. It has been a very long road, these past five months and just by the literal hair of my chinny chin chin have I, to date, been able to avoid bankruptcy and foreclosure. My phrase has been that I do not want to become a 'statistic of the 21st century depression'. That is how it looks from my vantage point. The soup kitchens and homeless shelters of today are overwhelmed but there is no march on Washington to try and influence change, meaningful change. Where do we go from here? I personally believe the future is bleak, comparatively speaking, and the world of the next generations will view this as a time of 'reality bites'. The children of today will live in a much different world.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Re: A "Meat-Packing" Job May Not Be As Good A Job As You Think...
Posted by: wtfo on Jul 10, 2009 7:48 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Spoken like a true American capitalist - at least one who apparently is gainfully employed (at the moment)...

It is interesting that I read this comment shortly after reading about what "meat-packing jobs" really are like in our current corporate-controlled food industry. Please read "Fast Food Nation" and then reconsider your comment.

Also, remember that all anyone can really strive for in employment these days is a decent pay for a decent day's work. Then, it sure would be nice to be treated as a valuable contributor to the success of the company and not just as a "business expense" or an "expense of production" - something to be minimized at all costs. The days of being able to choose employment from a reputable company that is genuinely considerate of the long-term economic, health, and quality of life needs of their employees are long gone. We are all just short-term mechanisms of production in the American economic system today.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

This has already been going on for years.
Posted by: Benn_Miller on Jul 10, 2009 8:17 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Perhaps if businesses would be more decentralized instead of the current corporate dictators that they are today would people not have to be forced into fearing for their job securities. For years, we have been stuck with a government that rewards companies that offshore and outsource to maximize their profits. I seriously doubt that this current administration will push to reverse the madness since his campaign accepted such bribes just to rise to power.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

People respond to incentives.
Posted by: AJR Journal on Jul 10, 2009 8:56 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Most unemployed workers find a new job in the first 2 months and the last 2 months of their unemployed period. As their benefits start to run out, workers get the spur to find a new job.
Funny, it always seems to work.
Do not be fearful!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» I am a child of the 60;s, too. Posted by: AJR Journal
» I remembered where I heard it. Posted by: AJR Journal

Comments are closed-

ENOUGH DIAGNOSIS - WE NEED A CURE
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 10, 2009 8:59 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Two wars, and lower corporate taxes designed by the Bush Administration are the culprit. American people are not lazy or indifferent. They are as willing to work as their parents and grandparents. When $20 an hour turns into $8 an hour it doesn't reflect on the employee, but it does dramatically affect his lifestyle. His tax contribution goes down. When they decided to create a "poor society" didn't that occur to them? Instead of a second 'stimulus package' Obama should use the money to extend unemployment benefits. Mybe it's time to put a moratorium on 'layoffs'. A company should have to prove that they cannot retain an employee before letting them go. It's done in many other countries. This downturn has become a free-for-all for corporations. Maybe it's time to look at how they 'cook the books' these days. I'm not convinced that the numbers of people out of work can be justified. It is however, becoming very convenient. Thanks, ANNA

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

hmmm
Posted by: tazdelaney on Jul 10, 2009 12:52 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
first off, let's stop paying attention to such ignorance as the writer saying americans are just lazy, turning down jobs and importing 20million mexicans - the kind of number you expect from such people.

let him say that to my face or my wife's face. i've been unemployed for over a year and she since last autumn. this is her longest period of no job since 1977, mr. jerkwater, and in our 26 years together, we never went 6 months without work.

we've applied to some 1500 jobs in the past year or so online and off. i seem to have been relegated to 'old and in the way;' and get virtually no replies. amy gets an interview every couple of weeks, then goes to find herself surrounded by 20-30-somethings who have no idea how skilled, or hip, she is. now in our mid-50s, we were on the macintosh in the mid-1980s years befor windows even existed, doing DTP and then websites when these things were brand new, saved big media companies tens of millions by our consulting and software dev... 'buddy can you spare a dime?'is not exactly where we expected to be at this extremely capable age.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: hmmm Posted by: badkitty

Comments are closed-

New Solution in Colorado
Posted by: Xynyx on Jul 10, 2009 1:02 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
At least these people have had any benefits at all. Mine haven't even started!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

$12.2 trilllion...
Posted by: tazdelaney on Jul 10, 2009 1:35 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
in the past 18 months, starting with bush and as with the wars, torture and everything else, continuing with obama... as has recently become clear, the truth is that, the outlays by these administrations, and more covertly, by the fed reserve (actually a 'consulting firm, not an authentic government agency at all per the law), is now roughly $12.2 trilion and virtually all of that is actually just plain debt, money printed out of the air and the chinese communists no longer underwriting the whims of the begging capitalists who already owe the PRC a couple cool trilion...

bush took office, as a hahaha 'conservative' who then almost tripled the national debt to just under $12 trillion. to this add the new $12 trillion and we're looking at $23+ trillion... none as yet are talking about bankruptcy, but when a debt can't conceivably be paid and default looms; to my knowledge, it's bankruptcy, eh? couch and occlude the numbers all they want; it won't change a thing.

so while the financial criminals who schemed this whole disaster rightly assumed they'd get their mansions and aston-martins 'bailed out' by their corporate-communist buddies the obamabush... a bare pittance has been given to the struggling and suffering.

btw... to the contrary, both krugman and stiglitz, among others, including ourselves, did see that the unemployment figures obama's folks thought the bottom weren't going to be anywhere close to the abyss we are now seeing. even the 'stimulus' package wound up giving virtually nothing to anyone but the comfortable ('tax breaks'), the bulk of the rest of the stimulus going to long-range pet projects like the electronic health record surveillance project and the high-speed trains we should've built decades ago... SBA got diddley-squat and that was where most all of it should've gone!

now obama's going to go back to congress to seek the sum and do better projects he should've sought in february? against an entrenched, hostile, limbaugh-GOP and dems who are identical to their GOP fellows? fat chance.

but if the country has tens of millions of unemployed getting no unemplloyment checks this winter... we'll see how the one-party system takes to mass food riots and a guilotine on wall street and on the DC mall...

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Obama is a FAILURE!
Posted by: WYGunston on Jul 10, 2009 3:01 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Liberals and Progressives are impotent.

And stop BITCHING IF YOU REMAIN IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. ANYONE BITCHING HERE TODAY WHO DOES NOT JOIN THE GREEN PARTY IS JUST YELLING AND COMPLAINING IN VAIN WITH YOUR USUAL FAKE Liberal/Progressive WHINE(ING). STOP IT BECAUSE IT HAS BECOME TIRING LISTENING TO YOU FAKE Liberal/Progressives who actually thought Obama or that the Demnocratic Party---also a party of the military-corporate state was gonna bring any real "change." You so-called Liberals/Progressives have become very pathetic!

The Democratic Party is not an ally of Liberals and Progressives so get into some reality.

Obama is not a Liberal/Progressive but the newest face on the fading of the American Empire.

Obama's healthcare plan can be equated with a euthansia plan and the sooner you knuckleheads face this harsh reality the better off you will be. Get your heads out of your butts! Face facts folks--Obama and Biden are war mongers who back the military-corporatist state and most Democrats in the U.S. House and Senate are conservatives, and not liberals or progressives.

Until the next time, I am sure all of you will keep busy in those Democratic Party delusions and yes the illusion that Obama is such a "great leader."

Obama being an "environmentalist" is like saying the Mafia never killed anyone.

Obama is not trustworthy and you dolts keep thinking he will achieve substantial changes in the failed political system.

Don't you people realize that the America is a FAILED STATE NOW? That any other country would be under the control of the IMF and World Bank right now? Wake Up because America has Failed and you still want those who allowed it to fail to Fix It for Ya! Man, you people are DUMB!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Unemployment checks are not the answer
Posted by: jaylindberg@hotmail.com on Jul 10, 2009 10:35 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
We are going to need a rebellion to clean up this dysfunctional circus and unemployment checks will have to stop before that happens.

This country sold out our industrial base during the last thirty years for a police state, a war economy and tens of trillions of dollars of debt. This economic system will have to go bankrupt and possibly Balkanize before it gets fixed. Deal with it because there is no way that unemployment checks or another stimulus package will come close to fixing a mess that took 30 years to create.

It will take at least a decade of hard work, a lot of luck and probably a die off to fix these problems.

Put another way, when you are stupid, you suffer and 90% of all suffering is based on stupidity. Welcome to the suffering mode.

Jay Lindberg

Author of Drug War Economics: The Machine Behind the Madness. Send me an email address and I will send it to you as a PDF file. It's Free.

When you understand how and why we got into the War on Drugs, you will understand how dysfunctional and corrupt this government really is. At that point the solutions will become crystal clear.

The more I learn about this government, the more I appreciate the French Revolution.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Banks get boku, we get nada
Posted by: gunxclimber on Jul 11, 2009 6:31 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
So I am trying to get this straight, the banksters get trillions of borrowed, tax backed dollars to cover their bad bets, but workers who actually produce something and are the collateral damage of this planned depression get thrown under the bus? This sounds like the U.S.S.A to me.

newstheylose

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Saying Americans won't work is right wing propoganda
Posted by: weslen1 on Jul 12, 2009 10:46 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
On December 10, 1948 our leaders signed The Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Article 25 reads,
(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and wellbeing of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

To this day, when a disaster strikes, anywhere in the world, the United States is the first one there to offer assistance and to help in any way possible. Yet, when the most recent disasters occurred here at home, our government was MIA. And now that so many millions of jobs have been lost on Republican watch, their solution is to cut benefits for the unemployed, cut free school lunch programs to motivate hungry children, to cut Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. They pray for another 9/11 on a much grander scale to “Save the Republican Party”, they pray for the destruction of millions of people’s lives and call themselves the party of “morals”. Give me a break. They accuse the unemployed of being out of work “because they don’t understand the need to work or even why there is a need to work”. When it comes to helping Americans who are in trouble, our government is AWOL.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

One Solution To Consider Resolving Un-Employment Issues
Posted by: Jonalist on Jul 13, 2009 8:32 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Theres one way to resolve this unemployment compensation for anyone, it means to standup and be counted to support new employment and that would be the message Obama sees in his face that workers are willing to go to the change immediately to affect their livelyhood and in turn the Congress would have to pass a law supporting the continuance of unemployment under a new program designed to support all those individuals which would become employed at a certain date and have to report to work as scheduled. This plan would support consumer's whom the employment would be aimed towards the manufacture of items which would be to replace the removed Automotive Component Parts which are not desired and replace those with New Electronic Component Parts that the Consumer Vehicles would receive to make them an Electric Vehicle. In turn this employment of individuals for the operation of The Foundation dependent upon Component Manufacturing Plants and Conversion Facilities of The Foundation would then return 15% of the 30% originally initiated to the fund for unemployment therefore the claims of unemployment could continue to be supported after these individuals had begun work again, others that follow are then compensated till they are logged to a occupation. Once employees of The Foundation begin their work they can qualify for what I define as "ENERGY CLUB SAVINGS PLAN ... Employee Opportunity. More backing of The Foundation can be supporting "Benefits for workers in Tuition Cost Paybacks including Scholarships & Grants" which I define as "College and University Project Support (CUPS)".

The Foundation is a Project Plan I devised a year ago which is to Convert Automobiles. Jobs range from manufacturing jobs to reclaimation of Consumer Vehicles, No Consumer is left Behind Clause. The name of The Foundation is "The Electric Vehicle Free Conversion Foundation (EVFCF)". My Blog "Windows Live Spaces" has a articvle that may interest you, "You Need That Electric Vehicle Don't You". Another Windows Live Blog has two articles that would interest you "Someone On My Doorstep" (January 30), "Introducing The Electric Vehicle Free Conversion Foundation (EVFCF)" (January 31). On MySpace Blog I have a article entitled "Are Electric Vehicles For You?". I am a member of The Picken's Plan and I support My Project Plan Updates there. One article I wrote on The Picken's Plan is entitled "Alternative Energy Solutions Supports New Objectives".

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

The Foundation
Posted by: Jonalist on Jul 13, 2009 4:16 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
In effect of the affect of The Foundation will be Solving Problems For Transportation of 291 million plus Consumer's. The Foundation will create its own energy to consumer at each of four manufacturing Plants in America making unemployment as far from the reality that we see at the current time (10:20 AM 7/13/2009). Rough Sketches denoting the Component Manufacturing Regional Plants: (Pg1-2, Pg2-2, Turbine and Tower for Component Manufacturing Regional Plant, Wind Turbine for Component Manufacturing Regional Plant, Addition to Roof replacing the original design of four antennas with air navigation lights with only one Central Tower, Images generated by AutoCAD2009).

I have never been a Political figure, nor have I ever desired being a Political figure. I am a author.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

I see it all around me
Posted by: Knot_Rich on Jul 15, 2009 1:58 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I hate to be the one to break it to Marie, but as usual, Washington is behind the times. It's happening NOW, has been since last year. I know, the avrage person didn't give a shit about textiles, just one of those low skill labor jobs not worthy of any consideration. So when the outsourcing started a decade ago, no unions cared, American citizens didn't care, just give me a cheap shirt. Well, the jobs kept bleeding away, 10,000, 20,000, 750,000 in the Carolinas alone. Then following were the jobs from the businesses relying on those lost wages, mom and Pop stores and diners, Main Street shops, empty store front after empty store front. People began losing their homes, simple homes, not overbought McMansions, the number of children qualifying for the school free lunch program broke 65%, the lines in fron ot Project Host keep growing. The factories and mills now abandoned, whole textile towns devastated, no work to be found, people began running out of unemployment a long time ago. I see then all the time as I volunteer at Project Host, I see people I know from the mills, I see the shame and sadness in their eyes as they can no longer feed their children. Why, because most of you don't give a shit, even today, you'll buy a cheap Chinese made pair of socks instead of buying American and keeping Americans working. You won't insist on talking to an American when you get someone at some help desk you can barely understand. You don't care about your neighbors, your fellow citizens, nope, not as long as you have your job. Well, for now anyway.
Think American folks, those foreigh workers aren't here supporting your local economy, they're not paying the taxes that build your roads and schools, or pay for your local police and fire protection. They're not buying GM or Ford cars keeping American workers working. Think about it. The next job sent overseas could be yours. And what will you do when there are no jobs around and your unemployment runs out.
I see it every day. It's happening NOW.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

stanleyu moya e
Posted by: itouch backup on Jul 15, 2009 7:59 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]

Comments are closed-

We've Been Had And It's Time To ACT
Posted by: Triton on Jul 16, 2009 3:27 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Anyone who doesn't recognize that Obama, Geithner, Summers, and too many lying shyster bastards in the Congress are both corrupt and incompetent is delusional. Obama, particulary,is now a recognized mythomaniac. He would rather lie than tell the truth even when telling the truth would be to his advantage. We should have recognized from the beginning that being a Chicago politician meant that he was devoid of morals and principles. The bail out of the banks has only served Goldman and Sachs to whom all three are committed whole heartedly. Thousands of homes are being foreclosed on and millions of workers are going to run out of benifits. How is it possible that the banksters can enjoy huge bonuses while much of the country lives in tents, depends on dumpsters for food and has no access to health care? Indeed, "These are the times that try mens souls". We will not be saved by this administration or this government. The only path to survival is for the citizens to organize, demonstrate their anger for intolerable conditions and save the nation by themselves.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

Alternet Comments:

Comments are closed-

RE: Why do they refuse to work?
Posted by: adp3d on Jul 10, 2009 2:11 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
From a new book review at NPR.org by Author Nick Reding called Methland - "... the agricultural industry has consolidated over time, and the working class has had to work harder for less — which has made meth more attractive. As an example, he cites a meatpacking plant that was bought in 1987; the new company cut wages from $18 an hour to $6.20."

Now tell me Honkey, do you work for $6.20 an hour?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» It's 2009 Posted by: johnwinthrop
» RE: It's 2009 Posted by: richholland
» They Still Aren't Back to 1990 Wages Posted by: FoonTheElder
» RE: It's 2009 Posted by: eggnog2464
» RE: It's 2009 Posted by: johnwinthrop

Comments are closed-

Uh, no...
Posted by: orda on Jul 10, 2009 5:04 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It's not that Americans refuse to take white collar jobs, it's that companies bring in workers who are cheaper.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrapEizmuyM&feature=related

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Uh, no... Posted by: bccmeteorites
» RE: Uh, no... Posted by: monkeywrench

Comments are closed-

"...hire engineers, computer programs and PhDs from Asia ..."
Posted by: xvictor on Jul 10, 2009 5:18 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Are you for real??? Companies hire Asians because they are willing to work CHEAP!! Even low level HS grad secretaries make more money than that. The IT folks constantly lobby Congress for more H1B slaves, er, workers, based on a FALSE assumption that there are not enough US grads filling the positions. They'd rather hire Asians than pay an experienced US computer programmer a fair salary, or even an equivalently lower salary.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

RE: Was this meant to be a joke?
Posted by: Jasonix on Jul 10, 2009 5:21 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I sure hope so, because if not, you're one friggin' idiot. We don't have import visas for foreign engineers because "Americans don't want the jobs." I can't believe that I'd honestly have to explain this.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Actually the asshole has a point...
Posted by: sausage on Jul 10, 2009 6:52 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
and as usual he gets it bass ackwards.

He's right that companies like Microsoft, though he presents no evidence to back up his assertion, hire H1B engineers from China and India over their American counterparts. But it is not because American won't do that kind of work but because the MBAs running the company pay the immigrants less.

Labor is a company's most fungible expense. Lower wages equal higher profit margine which translate into higher stock prices that translate into more stock options for the MBAs running the company.

The same kind of thinking percolates on down through the US economy. I was this kind of thinking that motived the Rubashkins to actively recruit illegal immigrants for their Agriprocessors meat packing plant.

Simple, no?

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Re: A "Meat-Packing" Job May Not Be As Good A Job As You Think...
Posted by: wtfo on Jul 10, 2009 8:04 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Spoken like a true American capitalist - at least one who apparently is gainfully employed (at the moment)...

It is interesting that I read this comment shortly after reading about what "meat-packing jobs" really are like in our current corporate-controlled food industry. Please read "Fast Food Nation" and then reconsider your comment.

Also, remember that all anyone can really strive for in employment these days is a decent pay for a decent day's work. Then, it sure would be nice to be treated as a valuable contributor to the success of the company and not just as a "business expense" or an "expense of production" - something to be minimized at all costs. The days of being able to choose employment from a reputable company that is genuinely considerate of the long-term economic, health, and quality of life needs of their employees are long gone. We are all just short-term mechanisms of production in the American economic system today.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Most Dangerous Industry in the U.S. Posted by: FoonTheElder

Comments are closed-

You're an idiot
Posted by: BlueTigress on Jul 10, 2009 9:37 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Illegals and H1B visa workers are brought in to gut the wage structure.

There are loads of programmers who would love to work, but they are the companies cannot agree on a living wage.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

RE: Why do they refuse to (re) educate themselves?
Posted by: Unrepentant Heretic on Jul 10, 2009 10:15 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Honkey got it half right. To expect a $ 20 wage when the market wage is 6.20 is ridiculous.

During the last decades some 15 million jobs have been lost and some 17 million new jobs have been created. Only about 300,000 job losses can be attributed to outsourcing.
But the 15 million that lost their jobs have not be able to fill the new 17 million jobs, why?

There a two main reasons. They had no education or skills to begin with. And they refused to relocate and educate themselves to acquire these skills necessary to be employed in the 21th century.

I am willing to extend unemployment benefits for retraining but noway am I willing to pay for autoworkers that are laid off and refuse to reeducate themselves, demanding a job in the automotive sector, a dying industry.

The Scandinavian countries got it right. No unemployment benefit if you do not retrain.No unemployment benefit if you don't move to get an offered job.

The Scandinavian labor unions new that the only way to compete and keep your high wags was higher skilled workers. Swedish labor unions were ruthless to unprofitable corporations, if they could not pay the wage, they should be shut down. Wage security has always been more important in the Scandinavian countries than job security.

A Scandinavian labor union official would find it insulting to expect a low skilled work in a meat plant being paid $ 20 an hour when market wages was $ 6.20. They would have shut down that factory long time ago and would say to the worker unwilling to retrain, tough luck!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

RE: Why do they refuse to work?
Posted by: assrocket on Jul 11, 2009 10:26 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
you have clearly never asked any of these H1B folks doing white collar work about their work conditions - they are systematically paid less, denied benefits, and are generally easier to push around (for employers) than US citizens. One of the things about the H1B visa that employers like so much is that they can always revoke their sponsorship of a resident alien, transforming that person suddenly into an 'illegal' alien. In case you've had your head in the sands of history your entire life, I'd like to point out that US capital has always considered squeezing the workers for every drop of blood a favorite pastime. As US labor laws hew more towards fairness and justice for US citizen-workers, the demand on the part of US capitalists for non-citizen workers who are more easily dominated increases. Thus it has always been, and so long as there are such people as capitalists legally bound to maximize short-term profit for shareholders, thus it shall ever be. You want to stop immigation? Abolish capitalism and its handmaiden, neoliberal globalization. Read a book or two and educate yourself before commenting, and perhaps you will one day learn to make sense of the world as it actually is, not as some ideological fantasy of 'lazy workers screwing it up for the rest of us'. I am into giving folks the benefit of the doubt, as aside from ignorance, the only other motivation to make the comment you did can only be pure hatred. As I said, I am into giving folks the benefit of the doubt, hence my declaration at the beginning that you must be essentially ignorant on the subject.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

RE: Why do they refuse to work?
Posted by: lindaamick on Jul 11, 2009 2:32 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I am a volunteer working with the Lost Boys of Sudan most of whom ALL now work in meatpacking plants from Texas, to Okla, to Kansas, to Neb to SD. The hourly wage is 11.50 per hour. AH that it was $20 per hour. These young men would be ecstatic. Also, regularly, the maximum guaranteed hours per week is 32.

Please verify your facts.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

States Are Sovereign
Posted by: johnwinthrop on Jul 10, 2009 2:48 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Obama's stimulus has been a bust. Much money goes to states that do politically popular projects or keep the incrowd employed shuffling papers. There are too few construction projects or rehab of bridges and roads we heard so much about. The latter generate more jobs than just allowing the feds to pay for a revenue analyst in a Comptroller's office who the state could pay for and should pay for.

Extending unemployment benefits does inject cash into the system and goes to the worst problem of a recession: folks with no means to survive. Unemployment checks aren't great but if medicaid, food stamps and if necessary mortgage forbearance can be tossed in, people can make it to better times.

But just throwing money to states too cheap to tax the wealthy, corporations and those working professionals like doctors who are doing just fine(here come the Alternetter doctor lovers!) is absurd.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Built to fail. Posted by: rafaeltoral
» RE: Built to fail. Posted by: assrocket
» RE: States Are Sovereign Posted by: monkeywrench

Comments are closed-

without political changes
Posted by: richholland on Jul 10, 2009 3:43 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
face it FDR had also to deal with socialisme and trade unions...
Now the communisme lost, trade unions are invisible.

The system that created the shit, cannot create something else.
Even the Nazis and the Stalin commies knew this fact.
Shouting the mantra OBAMA OBAMA OBAMA is not enough.
Think is it fair some families have billions and so many have nothing.
Of course Honkey, this crisis is related to the underpaid workers.
In Europe we pay livable wages sothat the shops can survive.
Middleclass can pay taxes... etc.

Our government quaranteed houseowners mortgages to $ 350.000
The banks were angry but the people are saved.
Start rethinking look at USA before 1980..

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

States are refusing or hoarding stimulus money
Posted by: Sushi on Jul 10, 2009 4:50 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Look to the states (especially Republican ones), where they are either refusing to take stimulus funds or using the money to shore up their budgets.

They DON'T WANT anything Obama does to succeed, so they can point to the "failure" as a reason to vote Republicans back into office. Failure means hungry, desperate, scared and angry constituents, who will ignorantly buy into whatever they are told.

Also, notice that mainstream media no longer does any meaningful journalism. They feed us pop culture "news" top billing, then give partial stories, slanted to "let you decide" when they've not told the entire truth.

Sushi

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» Obama is basically a republican. Posted by: rafaeltoral

Comments are closed-

Extend the lifeline!!!
Posted by: xvictor on Jul 10, 2009 5:33 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The cost to the government for extending unemployment benefits is comparatively inexpensive, maybe 8 or 10 billion bucks at a time.

While the dismal economic storm is raging, the best the government can do without ruining free market initiatives is to merely throw out a lifeline to the disadvantaged folks. Or, if you will, provide a community shelter of sorts while the storm is blasting thru. Once the storm passes, people should be able to secure suitable work. This is what unemployment insurance was intended for. What the people need is time for things to blow over. Those 800 billion dollar stimulus deals is a huge waste of money, very expensive and inefficient, and will not bring the desired effect.

The extension of unemployment benefits, on the other hand, should be the only thing the government should provide, and it's so much cheaper.

it's funny that those who bitch about unemployment compensations and stimulus packages don't say a word regarding open expense accounts garnered by the Iraq/Afghan debacle. They say nothing about the cost of those conflicts, which run about 150 billion dollars every couple of months or so. Do some soul searching, folks.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Before we can fix things, we have to recognize where we are...
Posted by: nmeyer on Jul 10, 2009 6:22 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Our financial system is cancerous and greed never self-polices. Our politicians are corporate or religious prostitutes. Our citizen's civic IQ is low and further dampened by the escape drugs of pop culture/entertainment and pro-sports. Our governments' revenue-generating mechanisms rob every worker and every consumer on nearly every action and ignore something that is co-created by nearly every citizen -- the unimproved value of land.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

We have become to proud
Posted by: fantasypoliticsusa on Jul 10, 2009 6:53 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
27 weeks being unemployed is a long time. And looking for a job sucks a lot. I agree with the above comments from the Honkey though. Part of our problem as a nation is we have become to proud. Once we have earned 25$ an hour it is hard to go back to say 8$ an hour. It only comes to a little more than what we could earn sitting on our asses getting unemployment benefits. I know of people that will refuse to take a job because of that. I call them lazy, sucking off the tit of the government. There are lots of people with the same problems that somehow pull themselves out of it. Then there are the others that complain, point fingers, and look for sympathy.
This is not a red state blue state issue as the writer wants you to think. Some states have turned down the stimulus money because after the money stops the state will be responsible to pick up the bill. They refuse the stimulus money because it is short sighted to take it. If they can't pay the bills now, what makes you think they can pay out more money when the stimulus money stops? It will mean more state taxes due this stimulus mess. More of a burden to those that do or can stay working.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: We have become to proud Posted by: somegirl
» Well said Posted by: BlueTigress
» RE: We have become to proud Posted by: somegirl
» RE: We have become to proud Posted by: cmaciain
» You would do well in China. Posted by: rafaeltoral
» RE: You would do well in China. Posted by: assrocket

Comments are closed-

Then...
Posted by: farleya on Jul 10, 2009 6:59 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...Yes, and thanks to a top-heavy "bailout" that's never "trickled down", we can all look forward to the social unrest that occurs when too much money falls (literally rains !) into too few hands, ... "Let them eat cake...". ... Forbid that U.S. citizens should learn to focus their ire upon those who have gleaned the greatest profits from our pockets.

Farley Andrews

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: Then... Posted by: assrocket

Comments are closed-

Will I shed any tears?
Posted by: sausage on Jul 10, 2009 7:04 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I'm sorry but the meaning of the word "worker" has expanded over the years to where it is almost nonsensical.

The traditionally "work" meant doing something physical in nature. Movement and muscles were involved, the body sweated.

Today we call sitting at a desk, eating shit from the MBAs in the executive suite and bothering people over the phone "work."

So every time I hear of a gaggle of stock brokers or insurance agents being laid off, downsized or outsourced, not a tear drop falls.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» It most certainly does Posted by: sausage
» HAHAHA! Posted by: assrocket
» Is your first name "judge"? Posted by: johnwinthrop

Comments are closed-

unemployed in Georgia
Posted by: shine0854 on Jul 10, 2009 7:35 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Had those billions of dollars been equally divided between all the social security numbers of the people with incomes below, say, 250K annually, the people would have 'stimulated' this economy and it would have self leveled....we could forget about this discussion of unemployment benefits. i have been on UI since February after being laid off, company closed. i have applied to literally hundreds of jobs and just this month have finally reached the point of being seriously considered for two different positions. It has been a very long road, these past five months and just by the literal hair of my chinny chin chin have I, to date, been able to avoid bankruptcy and foreclosure. My phrase has been that I do not want to become a 'statistic of the 21st century depression'. That is how it looks from my vantage point. The soup kitchens and homeless shelters of today are overwhelmed but there is no march on Washington to try and influence change, meaningful change. Where do we go from here? I personally believe the future is bleak, comparatively speaking, and the world of the next generations will view this as a time of 'reality bites'. The children of today will live in a much different world.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Re: A "Meat-Packing" Job May Not Be As Good A Job As You Think...
Posted by: wtfo on Jul 10, 2009 7:48 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Spoken like a true American capitalist - at least one who apparently is gainfully employed (at the moment)...

It is interesting that I read this comment shortly after reading about what "meat-packing jobs" really are like in our current corporate-controlled food industry. Please read "Fast Food Nation" and then reconsider your comment.

Also, remember that all anyone can really strive for in employment these days is a decent pay for a decent day's work. Then, it sure would be nice to be treated as a valuable contributor to the success of the company and not just as a "business expense" or an "expense of production" - something to be minimized at all costs. The days of being able to choose employment from a reputable company that is genuinely considerate of the long-term economic, health, and quality of life needs of their employees are long gone. We are all just short-term mechanisms of production in the American economic system today.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

This has already been going on for years.
Posted by: Benn_Miller on Jul 10, 2009 8:17 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Perhaps if businesses would be more decentralized instead of the current corporate dictators that they are today would people not have to be forced into fearing for their job securities. For years, we have been stuck with a government that rewards companies that offshore and outsource to maximize their profits. I seriously doubt that this current administration will push to reverse the madness since his campaign accepted such bribes just to rise to power.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

People respond to incentives.
Posted by: AJR Journal on Jul 10, 2009 8:56 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Most unemployed workers find a new job in the first 2 months and the last 2 months of their unemployed period. As their benefits start to run out, workers get the spur to find a new job.
Funny, it always seems to work.
Do not be fearful!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» I am a child of the 60;s, too. Posted by: AJR Journal
» I remembered where I heard it. Posted by: AJR Journal

Comments are closed-

ENOUGH DIAGNOSIS - WE NEED A CURE
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 10, 2009 8:59 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Two wars, and lower corporate taxes designed by the Bush Administration are the culprit. American people are not lazy or indifferent. They are as willing to work as their parents and grandparents. When $20 an hour turns into $8 an hour it doesn't reflect on the employee, but it does dramatically affect his lifestyle. His tax contribution goes down. When they decided to create a "poor society" didn't that occur to them? Instead of a second 'stimulus package' Obama should use the money to extend unemployment benefits. Mybe it's time to put a moratorium on 'layoffs'. A company should have to prove that they cannot retain an employee before letting them go. It's done in many other countries. This downturn has become a free-for-all for corporations. Maybe it's time to look at how they 'cook the books' these days. I'm not convinced that the numbers of people out of work can be justified. It is however, becoming very convenient. Thanks, ANNA

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

hmmm
Posted by: tazdelaney on Jul 10, 2009 12:52 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
first off, let's stop paying attention to such ignorance as the writer saying americans are just lazy, turning down jobs and importing 20million mexicans - the kind of number you expect from such people.

let him say that to my face or my wife's face. i've been unemployed for over a year and she since last autumn. this is her longest period of no job since 1977, mr. jerkwater, and in our 26 years together, we never went 6 months without work.

we've applied to some 1500 jobs in the past year or so online and off. i seem to have been relegated to 'old and in the way;' and get virtually no replies. amy gets an interview every couple of weeks, then goes to find herself surrounded by 20-30-somethings who have no idea how skilled, or hip, she is. now in our mid-50s, we were on the macintosh in the mid-1980s years befor windows even existed, doing DTP and then websites when these things were brand new, saved big media companies tens of millions by our consulting and software dev... 'buddy can you spare a dime?'is not exactly where we expected to be at this extremely capable age.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

» RE: hmmm Posted by: badkitty

Comments are closed-

New Solution in Colorado
Posted by: Xynyx on Jul 10, 2009 1:02 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
At least these people have had any benefits at all. Mine haven't even started!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

$12.2 trilllion...
Posted by: tazdelaney on Jul 10, 2009 1:35 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
in the past 18 months, starting with bush and as with the wars, torture and everything else, continuing with obama... as has recently become clear, the truth is that, the outlays by these administrations, and more covertly, by the fed reserve (actually a 'consulting firm, not an authentic government agency at all per the law), is now roughly $12.2 trilion and virtually all of that is actually just plain debt, money printed out of the air and the chinese communists no longer underwriting the whims of the begging capitalists who already owe the PRC a couple cool trilion...

bush took office, as a hahaha 'conservative' who then almost tripled the national debt to just under $12 trillion. to this add the new $12 trillion and we're looking at $23+ trillion... none as yet are talking about bankruptcy, but when a debt can't conceivably be paid and default looms; to my knowledge, it's bankruptcy, eh? couch and occlude the numbers all they want; it won't change a thing.

so while the financial criminals who schemed this whole disaster rightly assumed they'd get their mansions and aston-martins 'bailed out' by their corporate-communist buddies the obamabush... a bare pittance has been given to the struggling and suffering.

btw... to the contrary, both krugman and stiglitz, among others, including ourselves, did see that the unemployment figures obama's folks thought the bottom weren't going to be anywhere close to the abyss we are now seeing. even the 'stimulus' package wound up giving virtually nothing to anyone but the comfortable ('tax breaks'), the bulk of the rest of the stimulus going to long-range pet projects like the electronic health record surveillance project and the high-speed trains we should've built decades ago... SBA got diddley-squat and that was where most all of it should've gone!

now obama's going to go back to congress to seek the sum and do better projects he should've sought in february? against an entrenched, hostile, limbaugh-GOP and dems who are identical to their GOP fellows? fat chance.

but if the country has tens of millions of unemployed getting no unemplloyment checks this winter... we'll see how the one-party system takes to mass food riots and a guilotine on wall street and on the DC mall...

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Obama is a FAILURE!
Posted by: WYGunston on Jul 10, 2009 3:01 PM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Liberals and Progressives are impotent.

And stop BITCHING IF YOU REMAIN IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. ANYONE BITCHING HERE TODAY WHO DOES NOT JOIN THE GREEN PARTY IS JUST YELLING AND COMPLAINING IN VAIN WITH YOUR USUAL FAKE Liberal/Progressive WHINE(ING). STOP IT BECAUSE IT HAS BECOME TIRING LISTENING TO YOU FAKE Liberal/Progressives who actually thought Obama or that the Demnocratic Party---also a party of the military-corporate state was gonna bring any real "change." You so-called Liberals/Progressives have become very pathetic!

The Democratic Party is not an ally of Liberals and Progressives so get into some reality.

Obama is not a Liberal/Progressive but the newest face on the fading of the American Empire.

Obama's healthcare plan can be equated with a euthansia plan and the sooner you knuckleheads face this harsh reality the better off you will be. Get your heads out of your butts! Face facts folks--Obama and Biden are war mongers who back the military-corporatist state and most Democrats in the U.S. House and Senate are conservatives, and not liberals or progressives.

Until the next time, I am sure all of you will keep busy in those Democratic Party delusions and yes the illusion that Obama is such a "great leader."

Obama being an "environmentalist" is like saying the Mafia never killed anyone.

Obama is not trustworthy and you dolts keep thinking he will achieve substantial changes in the failed political system.

Don't you people realize that the America is a FAILED STATE NOW? That any other country would be under the control of the IMF and World Bank right now? Wake Up because America has Failed and you still want those who allowed it to fail to Fix It for Ya! Man, you people are DUMB!

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Unemployment checks are not the answer
Posted by: jaylindberg@hotmail.com on Jul 10, 2009 10:35 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
We are going to need a rebellion to clean up this dysfunctional circus and unemployment checks will have to stop before that happens.

This country sold out our industrial base during the last thirty years for a police state, a war economy and tens of trillions of dollars of debt. This economic system will have to go bankrupt and possibly Balkanize before it gets fixed. Deal with it because there is no way that unemployment checks or another stimulus package will come close to fixing a mess that took 30 years to create.

It will take at least a decade of hard work, a lot of luck and probably a die off to fix these problems.

Put another way, when you are stupid, you suffer and 90% of all suffering is based on stupidity. Welcome to the suffering mode.

Jay Lindberg

Author of Drug War Economics: The Machine Behind the Madness. Send me an email address and I will send it to you as a PDF file. It's Free.

When you understand how and why we got into the War on Drugs, you will understand how dysfunctional and corrupt this government really is. At that point the solutions will become crystal clear.

The more I learn about this government, the more I appreciate the French Revolution.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Banks get boku, we get nada
Posted by: gunxclimber on Jul 11, 2009 6:31 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
So I am trying to get this straight, the banksters get trillions of borrowed, tax backed dollars to cover their bad bets, but workers who actually produce something and are the collateral damage of this planned depression get thrown under the bus? This sounds like the U.S.S.A to me.

newstheylose

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

Saying Americans won't work is right wing propoganda
Posted by: weslen1 on Jul 12, 2009 10:46 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
On December 10, 1948 our leaders signed The Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Article 25 reads,
(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and wellbeing of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.

To this day, when a disaster strikes, anywhere in the world, the United States is the first one there to offer assistance and to help in any way possible. Yet, when the most recent disasters occurred here at home, our government was MIA. And now that so many millions of jobs have been lost on Republican watch, their solution is to cut benefits for the unemployed, cut free school lunch programs to motivate hungry children, to cut Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. They pray for another 9/11 on a much grander scale to “Save the Republican Party”, they pray for the destruction of millions of people’s lives and call themselves the party of “morals”. Give me a break. They accuse the unemployed of being out of work “because they don’t understand the need to work or even why there is a need to work”. When it comes to helping Americans who are in trouble, our government is AWOL.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

One Solution To Consider Resolving Un-Employment Issues
Posted by: Jonalist on Jul 13, 2009 8:32 AM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Theres one way to resolve this unemployment compensation for anyone, it means to standup and be counted to support new employment and that would be the message Obama sees in his face that workers are willing to go to the change immediately to affect their livelyhood and in turn the Congress would have to pass a law supporting the continuance of unemployment under a new program designed to support all those individuals which would become employed at a certain date and have to report to work as scheduled. This plan would support consumer's whom the employment would be aimed towards the manufacture of items which would be to replace the removed Automotive Component Parts which are not desired and replace those with New Electronic Component Parts that the Consumer Vehicles would receive to make them an Electric Vehicle. In turn this employment of individuals for the operation of The Foundation dependent upon Component Manufacturing Plants and Conversion Facilities of The Foundation would then return 15% of the 30% originally initiated to the fund for unemployment therefore the claims of unemployment could continue to be supported after these individuals had begun work again, others that follow are then compensated till they are logged to a occupation. Once employees of The Foundation begin their work they can qualify for what I define as "ENERGY CLUB SAVINGS PLAN ... Employee Opportunity. More backing of The Foundation can be supporting "Benefits for workers in Tuition Cost Paybacks including Scholarships & Grants" which I define as "College and University Project Support (CUPS)".

The Foundation is a Project Plan I devised a year ago which is to Convert Automobiles. Jobs range from manufacturing jobs to reclaimation of Consumer Vehicles, No Consumer is left Behind Clause. The name of The Foundation is "The Electric Vehicle Free Conversion Foundation (EVFCF)". My Blog "Windows Live Spaces" has a articvle that may interest you, "You Need That Electric Vehicle Don't You". Another Windows Live Blog has two articles that would interest you "Someone On My Doorstep" (January 30), "Introducing The Electric Vehicle Free Conversion Foundation (EVFCF)" (January 31). On MySpace Blog I have a article entitled "Are Electric Vehicles For You?". I am a member of The Picken's Plan and I support My Project Plan Updates there. One article I wrote on The Picken's Plan is entitled "Alternative Energy Solutions Supports New Objectives".

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

The Foundation
Posted by: Jonalist on Jul 13, 2009 4:16 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
In effect of the affect of The Foundation will be Solving Problems For Transportation of 291 million plus Consumer's. The Foundation will create its own energy to consumer at each of four manufacturing Plants in America making unemployment as far from the reality that we see at the current time (10:20 AM 7/13/2009). Rough Sketches denoting the Component Manufacturing Regional Plants: (Pg1-2, Pg2-2, Turbine and Tower for Component Manufacturing Regional Plant, Wind Turbine for Component Manufacturing Regional Plant, Addition to Roof replacing the original design of four antennas with air navigation lights with only one Central Tower, Images generated by AutoCAD2009).

I have never been a Political figure, nor have I ever desired being a Political figure. I am a author.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

I see it all around me
Posted by: Knot_Rich on Jul 15, 2009 1:58 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I hate to be the one to break it to Marie, but as usual, Washington is behind the times. It's happening NOW, has been since last year. I know, the avrage person didn't give a shit about textiles, just one of those low skill labor jobs not worthy of any consideration. So when the outsourcing started a decade ago, no unions cared, American citizens didn't care, just give me a cheap shirt. Well, the jobs kept bleeding away, 10,000, 20,000, 750,000 in the Carolinas alone. Then following were the jobs from the businesses relying on those lost wages, mom and Pop stores and diners, Main Street shops, empty store front after empty store front. People began losing their homes, simple homes, not overbought McMansions, the number of children qualifying for the school free lunch program broke 65%, the lines in fron ot Project Host keep growing. The factories and mills now abandoned, whole textile towns devastated, no work to be found, people began running out of unemployment a long time ago. I see then all the time as I volunteer at Project Host, I see people I know from the mills, I see the shame and sadness in their eyes as they can no longer feed their children. Why, because most of you don't give a shit, even today, you'll buy a cheap Chinese made pair of socks instead of buying American and keeping Americans working. You won't insist on talking to an American when you get someone at some help desk you can barely understand. You don't care about your neighbors, your fellow citizens, nope, not as long as you have your job. Well, for now anyway.
Think American folks, those foreigh workers aren't here supporting your local economy, they're not paying the taxes that build your roads and schools, or pay for your local police and fire protection. They're not buying GM or Ford cars keeping American workers working. Think about it. The next job sent overseas could be yours. And what will you do when there are no jobs around and your unemployment runs out.
I see it every day. It's happening NOW.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]


Comments are closed-

stanleyu moya e
Posted by: itouch backup on Jul 15, 2009 7:59 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]

Comments are closed-

We've Been Had And It's Time To ACT
Posted by: Triton on Jul 16, 2009 3:27 PM   
Current rating: Not yet rated    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Anyone who doesn't recognize that Obama, Geithner, Summers, and too many lying shyster bastards in the Congress are both corrupt and incompetent is delusional. Obama, particulary,is now a recognized mythomaniac. He would rather lie than tell the truth even when telling the truth would be to his advantage. We should have recognized from the beginning that being a Chicago politician meant that he was devoid of morals and principles. The bail out of the banks has only served Goldman and Sachs to whom all three are committed whole heartedly. Thousands of homes are being foreclosed on and millions of workers are going to run out of benifits. How is it possible that the banksters can enjoy huge bonuses while much of the country lives in tents, depends on dumpsters for food and has no access to health care? Indeed, "These are the times that try mens souls". We will not be saved by this administration or this government. The only path to survival is for the citizens to organize, demonstrate their anger for intolerable conditions and save the nation by themselves.

[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]

 
Advertisement
From The Blog
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Most Read
Most Emailed
Most Discussed
On REDDIT
On DIGG
 
loading ...
POWERED BY DIGG'S USERS