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Unemployed and on the Verge of Losing Everything: "I Don't Know How I'll Make It"
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It's summer and finally warm without being too hot. U.S. troops have withdrawn from Iraq. The kids are sleeping. It's the perfect time to just relax and enjoy the sunny weekends. Unless, of course, one is a part of the 50 percent of working Americans who said they are too "stressed" about losing their jobs to relax. The Bureau of Labor Statistics just released their report that 467,000 people lost their jobs in June. Those jobs came from every major industry sector, with the largest declines occurring in "manufacturing, professional and business services, and construction.”
The closer one looks at the numbers, the worse they look. In June 2007, the official U.S. unemployment rate was 4.5%. The just-released official unemployment rate for June 2009, is 9.5%, for blacks it's 14.7 percent, for Hispanics, 12.2 percent. When that number is adjusted to include those who have given up looking for work and the underemployed -- those people who can only find a part-time job and other "marginally-attached" workers, the actual unemployment rate is 16.5%, pretty high numbers for a country that has spent an additional $14.5 billion (of the $787 billion dedicated since Obama's election) to putting people "back to work.” Additionally, the amount of people out of work for over four months has grown significantly. People who are being laid off are being laid off permanently, not temporarily "let go” until the situation improves.
And yet it seems required business news orthodoxy to say that if the recession hasn't ended already, it's about to. "The economy is near the end of its contraction,” the economists reassures us. The economy has got to turn around soon, MSN Money writes. It's just "got to.” It's faith-based economics. The Economic Cycle Research Institute, a New York-based independent forecasting group, predicts that the U.S. recession will end sometime during this summer. And on June 20th, just two weeks before the Bureau of Labor Statistics report, CNN posted an article asking if the recession isn't already over. Did it end this spring? They want to know. If it did, someone forgot to tell the 14.7 unemployed Americans. This is seeming more and more like a "jobless recovery” -- one in which the stock markets and the large corporations "recover” but people don't.
In response, AlterNet is profiling unemployed Americans from across the country, all who have been out of work for over six months. Their experiences of unemployment are as varied as the jobs they left, from non-profit consulting and food service to teaching and high finance, but they raise similar hard questions about how dependent we are on an unstable economy, who is and isn't disposable, and who catches us when we fall.
When Luz Guerra had to leave her last job because she needed to care for her ailing mother, she always assumed she could find other work. After all, she'd been supporting herself since she was 16 and had over 30 years experience as an organizer and adult educator. She has designed curriculum and conducted trainings on U.S.-Central America issues, multicultural awareness, and popular economics for women. Luz wrote a report on technical assistance and people of color organizations, and as a consultant provided technical assistance and capacity building for a wide range of organizations.
Now, at 52, Luz finds herself out of work and unable to find any job that will cover her expenses. When her mother died in 2008, she applied for every nonprofit job that she was qualified for. But there very few openings and some months no openings at all. So Luz began to apply for office manager jobs, receptionist jobs, sales clerk jobs anything that would help her pay the mortgage on her small house she'd bought several years ago. To keep going, Luz started working cleaning a couple of times a week -- for $60 a week. But it was difficult, especially because she has chronic back pain, and the pay barely covers her food expenses. She has picked up a temporary part time nonprofit consulting job but it ends in a couple of months. "The competition for any even underpaid job is fierce right now in Austin,” Luz says. The official unemployment in Austin, Texas, where Luz lives, is 6.5 percent. That's for people who have been out of work for three months or longer. Luz has now been unemployed for over a year.
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Posted by: WYGunston on Jul 6, 2009 12:18 AM
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» RE: Try asking them who they voted for and the answer is clear.
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» RE: Try asking them who they voted for and the answer is clear.
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» RE: Try asking...vote for
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» RE: Try asking them who they voted for and the answer is clear.
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» Past is Past
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» I can see that compassion is one of your attributes!
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» Cynthia McKinney, anyone?
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» I agree in part
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» "The crime was not voting for him." Seriously?
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» "Crime" is hyperbole, but you get the gist
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» RE: Try asking them who they voted for and the answer is clear.
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» Superman 2012
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» RE: Try asking them who they voted for and the answer is clear.
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» Obama's fault? Maybe not.
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» You could lose everything, and still not be a "Victim"
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Posted by: ender on Jul 6, 2009 12:52 AM
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You have to stay positive to sell yourself and yet accept rejection - the most brutal, personal form of rejection possible in a capitalistic society - every single day.
You have to do all of this while the financial clock keeps ticking down to zero.
"A little while longer," are words you've been repeating to yourself and your family for months now, despite all evidence to the contrary.
There is no such thing as a jobless recovery.
It is merely the moneyed interests tightening their grip on the working class like a boa constrictor killing its prey.
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Posted by: cascadia on Jul 6, 2009 1:25 AM
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US troops have been withdrawn from "urban areas", after massive bases have been established all over Iraq. The actual number of troops will not appreciably decrease for years, and that's only if the Iraq puppet government meets requirements set up by the US.
The occupation of Iraq continues, with a new name.The previous administration used the occupation of Korea as an example of what they intended for Iraq, and it appears that game plan is moving forward.
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Posted by: bryangalt on Jul 6, 2009 2:15 AM
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So began my oddessy with unemployment. Due to the outrageous circumstances of my termination, the casino did not deny my unemployment claim so I got my first assistance check about 5 weeks later. Since then, I've had several periods where months went by without any help. At one point, I had to apply for food stamps, and it made me physically sick to do it. I only used them for the first month. I didn't send in the paperwork for the second month because I could not bear to be 'that bum' that so many of the heartless bastards in our society carry on about.
When Congress passed the first of the unemployment extensions, I felt like someone had thrown me a tiny string to pull me back from the edge. By that time, I had lost my car, I had to live with relatives who paid all the bills, I had applied for over 120 jobs without any responses, and I had decided that if I was to become homeless, I would kill myself.
I know that sounds like a harsh statement. But, I will not live for the sake of living. The thought of existing under a bridge was more than I wanted to think about.
The funny thing about Republicans is that they didn't support unemployment extensions. My dickhead Representative is Devin Nunes (R) CA 21, and his office told me that they don't like paying people to be on vacation. The unemployment I recieve is 42% of what I used to make at work. It's 100% of my survival. If they think this is vacation, I think they need to have their jobs cut off so that they can get a better feel for what it means to lose everything month after month-then hear your government officials act as if you are trying to milk the system.
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» Are these the Noble Savages I hear so much about?
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» RE: My Unemployment began October 2006
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Posted by: autumneve on Jul 6, 2009 2:49 AM
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» RE: Unemployed Over 45? It's about health insurance
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Posted by: wallisp on Jul 6, 2009 2:52 AM
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» I Agree, Republicans are Worse, especially GWB & Cheney, but Democrats are Certainly No Angels
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Posted by: weathered on Jul 6, 2009 3:43 AM
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When good is made to appear bad and bad is manipulated to appear good, you're at a tipping point.
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Posted by: Honky the Nihilist IX on Jul 6, 2009 5:00 AM
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Honestly, is it better to be dead or a beggar?
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» RE: Suicide! The perfect answer!
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» Suicide....
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Posted by: kib on Jul 6, 2009 5:19 AM
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» RE: UI not forever!! They know that.
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» Or even learn to spell business. Yeah, unemployment is SUCH a great opportunity!
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» RE: UI not forever!!
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Posted by: timenotonmyside on Jul 6, 2009 5:29 AM
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As long as government intrusion allows Governor Perry and the rest of his ilke their healthcare benefits, salaries and pensions for life why should they care about the Luz's of the world?
The disconnect is with the politicians here. Our Congress voted themselves a pay raise during our so called financial crisis.
The real crisis is the Wall Street Financiers who are being aided and abetted by our government, (you know Hank Paulson former CEO of Goldman Sachs).
Now we have centrists Obama seeing green shoots where yellow weeds are growing and doing nothing to stop Wall Street's raiding of the Federal Government's coffers.
Instead we have Geithner and Summers (both pro wall street) insisting that we can't upset the bankers because they know how to fix the mess.
Time to move to a different banana republic.
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» Reminder: Bastille Day is coming up...
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Posted by: Nigelthebriton on Jul 6, 2009 5:29 AM
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» RE: Watch for the day...I'm watching
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» Amen to this. Pitchforks, torches and those damn firearms aimed at bankers and brokers.
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Posted by: littlepitcher on Jul 6, 2009 5:46 AM
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Our recession has been ongoing for a quarter of a century. We have long joked that if 2000 female mill hands lose their jobs, no-one cares, but if ten aerospace workers are laid off, the MSM media are called out en masse to cover the event.
As someone who held onto a paid-off house through seven desperate years of unemployment, scrap metal recycling, flea marketing, growing veggies in flower beds, and hauling water from springs when the municipal supply was cut off, I can sympathize with Ms. Guerra. Education means little, personal connections are paramount, and age is the ultimate sin and crime in the current economy.
Thank you all for finally noticing the problem.
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Posted by: TFYQA on Jul 6, 2009 6:00 AM
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Is America about to taste the medicine it’s own institutions like the World Bank & International Money Fund have been administrating the world over for decades ?
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HALLIBURTON / KBR STEALING US BLIND !
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"Americans do not have the intellectual capacity to revolt. All you need to keep them pacified is to give them a dozen donuts & a gun !" - Max Keiser
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Posted by: MOTELCALIFORNIA on Jul 6, 2009 6:16 AM
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Posted by: newsound on Jul 6, 2009 6:16 AM
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These diversions are keeping a gullible and non-informed public at bay. The American "Media" has been and will continue to be the pacifier that let's elections get stolen, criminals run the government, bankers steal the treasury and large corporations (the owners of the "Media") control people's lives. There is so much noise blanking-out the real reasons things are the way they are, no wonder it's getting worse.
Real leadership is the key, but that hasn't been the case for many, many years. Until then, it's gonna be every man for himself running in a hundred different directions . . just the way they like.
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» RE: I saw this coming when Regan-Bush werre first "elected
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» This is one of the biggest reasons I never *had* kids
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Posted by: melusine on Jul 6, 2009 6:56 AM
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Basically, the "system" wants people such as myself to die. Fuck them, I say; I am not a commodity or a widget! If I go, who would raise my kids?
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Posted by: GatoPreto on Jul 6, 2009 7:38 AM
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What kind of moronic statement is that? You do realize your cred vaporised right there, don't you?!
Lay off the Strawbarry Kool Aid sister. The sooner the better.
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 6, 2009 7:49 AM
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remedy the problem. We don't do that here. People's lives are decided by corporations
and each state handles things their own way. I just don't believe that unemployment has to be as high as it is. When I worked in the Securities business I noticed that everytime a big company announced a cut-back, the stock always went up. That's because the profits went up. That raises many questions about today's practices. I don't believe it has to be this bad. Thanks, ANNA
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Posted by: dimityrose on Jul 6, 2009 8:04 AM
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I just find that woman have the wrong programming of self sacrifice.
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Posted by: JSquercia on Jul 6, 2009 8:09 AM
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They were encouraged to allow for renegotiating of Mortgages but then they would have to write down the value of the mortgage . Our "elected" representatives made sure that Bankruptcy judges could not Cram Down mortgages .
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Posted by: marjani on Jul 6, 2009 8:14 AM
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» Well said.
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Posted by: spencerh on Jul 6, 2009 8:53 AM
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Took off from work to take care of someone? That does not make economic sense, as much you might feel it's compassionate. That's just not something you can or should be able to do in any vaguely capitalist system.
Had kids? That's a lifestyle choice. She created extra expenses for herself. No one made her do that.
Who deserves sympathy and economic help?
People without children.
People who did not buy a car if they live in a place with public transportation.
People who rent small apartments, or a room and did not get mortgages.
People without expensive personal habits - regardless of what they are.
Those who did not create these extra expenses for themselves should get tons of help - way more than they get now. Those who HAVE THE LEAST and TAKE THE LEAST should GET THE MOST. We should not reward those who cost more because of their own lifestyle choices. We should reward those who cost the least because of their own lifestyle choices.
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» RE: are you serious???
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» RE: The unemployment crisis is terrible
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» RE: The unemployment crisis is terrible
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Posted by: marletat on Jul 6, 2009 9:24 AM
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Posted by: nantyglo22 on Jul 6, 2009 10:31 AM
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Losing a job is akin to losing a close friend whom you've known for years: "what will I do without you"?
Sure, we can say "we'll move on" (we have to) and "another one will come along" (but we don't know when) but time is against us. Time has a way of affecting our psyche and the way we handle a difficult time. It's a cruel numbers game.
Nice job by AlterNet for the article. I wish Luz and every unemployed person good luck on finding a job. I don't want anyone to go through what we're facing.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jul 6, 2009 10:34 AM
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"... the actual unemployment rate is 16.5%, pretty high numbers for a country that has spent an additional $14.5 billion (of the $787 billion dedicated since Obama's election) to putting people 'back to work.' "
The only people who have been put back to work are people on Wall Street. Beyond government money for unemployment extensions, I see no government funds being used in my area, either for new public or private works to increase employment or for general economic stimulation.
Besides, even if the pittance in direct "back to work" aid was actually effective, that $14.5 billion amounts to LESS THAN 2% of the billions handed to the Pirates of Wall Street, the same pirates that have stolen the bulk of America's wealth already.
We know from this who Obama's administration wants to stimulate – and it sure-as-hell isn't the "bottom" 95% of us.
Situations such a Luz's are spreading throughout the nation in exponential numbers; so my questions are these:
What IS America going to do with millions of people with no hope and no future and no support?
Where is America going to bury all of those who choose suicide?
How is America going to look to the rest of the world when massive ghettos grow like South American Favelas around its major cities?
What other nations will want to continue investing in such a failing and heartless nation, one whose stupid and greedy policies and far-reaching tentacles damage the world economy?
And, maybe most importantly, how is America going to cope with millions of extremely angry (and armed) people with nothing left to lose? It has been said that there is nothing more dangerous to a society than a person with nothing left to lose. We're now manufacturing millions, so I seriously doubt that there is an army on the planet big enough to contain violence on this scale if all of those people whose lives have been (and will be) destroyed choose to act.
The arrogant Powers That Be are playing a very dangerous game in a country that once drove out the strongest empire in the world and then went to war with itself for over four years, with a cost of over 600,000 lives.
Right now, even in the midst of a growing disaster, there still remains an adequate level of Good Old American Optimism. If that should ever die, however, God help us all.
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Jul 6, 2009 10:46 AM
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The severely corrupt governments + corporations are why so many people are suffering!!! There are abundant resources on this planet for EVERYONE to have clean water, food, shelter, decent jobs, medical care, etc.!!!
http://www.endthefed.us/
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Posted by: badkitty on Jul 6, 2009 10:57 AM
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» RE: Will I ever see a paycheck again?
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Posted by: nolhausen on Jul 6, 2009 10:58 AM
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Yet, sooner or later someone must work on answers.
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Posted by: sausage on Jul 6, 2009 11:09 AM
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Luz began to apply for office manager jobs, receptionist jobs, sales clerk jobs
In short anything but a position requiring demanding physical labor.
True at 52 no one would want or should need to work at a physically demanding job. But since the Sixties the attitude of suburban white America and upwardly mobile minority America, the category into which Ms. Guerra falls, is that in order to get ahead one needs a college degree which is then the ticket to the white collar world of air conditioned office buildings, three martini lunches, shuffling papers from on side of the desk to the other between golf outings on the company tab as legitimate "business" meetings.
The diminution and degradation of physical labor accelerated during the Reagan years with the Alzheimer addled "Gipper" announced the end of an industrial-based economy and the glorious dawning of a "service" based "free market" economy. Then the outsourcing of our domestic manufacturing sector began in earnest, culminating the with the dreadful NAFTA and CAFTA which has driven US manufacturing south and out of work granjeros to El Norte.
In reality Ronnie Rayguns should have told the truth about our "service" economy: It is in reality a servant economy. Have you noticed that many of the new businesses opened within the past twenty years are in lawn and garden care, carpet cleaning, dog grooming and picking up the shit of same? Many workers laid-off in earlier downsizings and recessions opened "new" businesses where they are, in essence, "servants" of oh, so busy suburban white collar coordinators.
Now the shit is hitting the fan for the coordinator class. The niches for servant businesses are taken. Soon the only thing left for white collar coordinator class will be the opportunity to fight over the stoop labor jobs now held by illegals from south of the border.
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» Feeling sorry for Luz Guerra won't improve her lot in life
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» RE: Feeling sorry for Luz Guerra won't improve her lot in life
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» You can't have it both ways
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» A twisted f%$#k but not nearly as stupid as you seem
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» What makes you better than anyone?
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Posted by: rjs on Jul 6, 2009 12:34 PM
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When you wake up from whatever psychosis you're under, take a good look around and get educated.
Propaganda and lies do not equal truth.
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Posted by: sharonsylvie on Jul 6, 2009 12:39 PM
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I also want to add a comment about helping sick relatives. My nephew had to quit his job to care for my sister because we could not get any assistance--and she had very good health insurance. I spent what money I had left traveling across three states so I could spell my nephew every other month. I know of lots of people who bankrupted themselves to care for a sick family member because this country provides no help for you unless you are willing to give up everything and die in a government home.
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Posted by: CalKid on Jul 6, 2009 2:29 PM
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Reminds me of the Soviet Union producing too much of unneeded items so they could be sold inexpensively, but few wanted them.
Government Motors executives were part of our current problem. They produced cars that few wanted. They thought that their market could buy new cars every two years, and made them to last just a little longer. So Toyota, Honda and others started winning the market.
Worse, about 40 years ago the important Business Schools were claiming that the auto executives were allowing the unions to set make-work rules, and restrictive rules, and gaining such high wages that the business would eventually fail. They were right about the results of catering to the unions, just wrong about the timing.
It seems cruel to think so, but just as inefficient businesses can fail, and should be allowed to fail, so should lazy and uneducated citizens be allowed to fail.
Bg corporations are not the problem. In the U.S. 99.7% of businesses are small businesses, and they provide jobs for 50.4% of the workforce.
If you have never met a payroll out of your own pocket, you don't understand business, and your comments on this site are worthless.
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These greedy, heartless, (I wanted to say "godless" but those "godly" republicans are just as selfish and greedy as pagan CEOs) investors don't see with their eyes the misery their insatiable lust for wealth is causing and neither their bought off politicians. We need a revolution in the worst way.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jul 6, 2009 6:08 PM
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I have the utmost Respect For Craig Murray Because as a UK Ambassador He Seriously Embarrassed The UK Government For Their Involvement in Receiving Information From TORTURE.
Not only did they force him out of his job, they have maintained an exceedingly long campaign to try and keep him silent.
If any American Journalist is reading this - then all I can say is that it is a VERY Interesting and VERY Current Newsworthy Story About The very Fundamentals of Democracy in a Country ENGLAND that is supposed to be an Example to the World as having the Oldest Most Long Running Democracy in The World.
Except Craig's Voice is Not Being Heard
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Maybe you can help
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Posted by: ankius... on Jul 6, 2009 6:29 PM
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I have worked in an Unemployment Office for almost 10 years. Luz is making an all too common mistake in her job search, applying for things she is way over qualified for. She should stay focused on what she does best, helping people help themselves. Get a grant and start something. I know easier said than done but better than applying for housekeeping.
If looking for work in this economy, get creative, network, network some more and develop a high demand skill. Get a CDL, CNA x-ray tech what ever floats your boat and will keep the lights on. There is A LOT of money for school and training out there. Your community college will be delighted to tell you all about it!
One, you could go cry in your beer blaming Bush, Obama, the Federal reserve or space aliens or two get creative and make something happen! The solution lies within...
Or maybe I'm full of shit...
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Posted by: La Colombetta on Jul 6, 2009 10:57 PM
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I am hungry now, but I will have my revenge. I have one of the top law firms in the country on the case and hope to have at least as big a case as the successful one brought against Microsoft by its Permatemps (Vizcaino vs Microsoft). Unfortunately for Apple, I am a very worthy opponent. As sharp as my lawyer is, he always remarks that I have a 'steel trap mind,' which I actually take as a pretty big compliment.
I WILL fight the good fight for the 'little people,' and I will use the ego of my abuser against him to ultimately crush him. Heed my warning, Apple... This is not an idle threat.
To any other corporation even attempting to abuse my rights or those of others, you must heed my warning also. Let's watch them like hawks folks. It's the only way to reverse this hell we all find ourselves in at this moment. All I will reveal for now, is that although I am poor, I am connected to some unusual folk in high places and I will use this to go after who ever I need to go after.
Power to the people :)
Peace
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Posted by: lsmart on Jul 7, 2009 8:21 AM
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We still have troops in 130 COUNTRIES that we're paying for every single month.
Here's the report - US Treasury financial statement
Spreading "democracy" all over the place while Americans go hungry is insanity.
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One of the previous comments contained these statements -
> . . and I had decided that if I was to become homeless, I would kill myself. <
This I do understand all too well. I'm just a bit shy of 60.
I listen to the usual suspect financial gurus on the radio, and read some of their articles, but what I come aweay with is that if you are young, fresh out of college, and looking for your first job, it will be rough, but eventually you'll "make it".
For folks in their 60s and beyond, if you are wiped out because your mutual funds took a turn for the worst, your house is already "under water" and you can't get any more credit, and all the credit cards are already maxed out, there are very few options left.
I'm not going to try to eek out an existence living from a shopping cart.
In my own context, I've had an interesting enough life, and am very grateful for the friends and experiences I have had over the years.
I leave behind no dependants, and in a sense. I'm free to depart.
One thing I do know for certain - the party's over.
We had our corporate "big 80s - greed is good" haydays, the dotcom bubble of the 90s, and the post Y2K bogus mortgage housing bubble.
Many of those "smartest guys in the room" types (as per the recent film about Enron) had this over the top, middle finger in your face if you get in my way attitude, everywhere, in almost every sector of finance and industry.
And now we are seeing the results of this "greed is good" gone wild era . . .
Never mind that many folks, myself included, tried for years to get people to look at this phony house of cards quarterly return obsessed business world and its obvious pathologies.
More than a few times I was ridiculed for daring to bring up such novel concepts as ethics, standards, and transparency in business operations. I was told I was naive, obsessed with utopian ideology, and so on.
I just wonder, how many of those same folks would respond to my "utopian" views now, but I digress.
If my time is up, and survival here is just too much of a ridiculous struggle, I'll quietly depart and that's that.
However, its those folks just getting of college I wonder about. They will be paying the tab for all the bailouts and stimulus funds that are now being utilized to correct the damage of the past decades. They will already be in debt, for years, just to pay off their student loans, before they even get their first job.
The USA we once knew is, for the most part, a hollow shell of a previous era.
Had the USA stayed out of Vietnam, and instead invested those dollars in advanced energy technologies, education, and health care reform, we might have a very different USA today.
But instead, we took an even further step backward, plunging into a completely bogus war in Iraq based on false information and fraud, and paid for with debt obligation to China.
As for me, even if I oculd survive for a few more years, only to have every cent dissapear into perpetual medical and heath care exoenses, I just can't get that enthusiastic about going through all that.
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Posted by: reelman on Jul 10, 2009 10:17 AM
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Samuelson: Economists Missed the Financial Crisis July 10.2009
Sooo after the democrat congress allowed millions of (year after year) subprime mortgages to be written (diversity/reverse discrimination bites back) for people (millions illegal!) who could never qualify traditionally, the congress allowed over 12 million illegals to milk America for fuel-social services, the congress passed major overspending bills for years, the democrats (secular socialists) gained power,
the new strident socialist president (he had a record) told voters for a year of his “redistribution-sharing plans”, our congress continued hiring (78,000 new gov-meant employees in 2009), the congress started meddling in big business, the congress defended Fannie-Freddie corruption, the congress made it plain high incomers were going to be hammered, the congress said harsh new eco-business laws were coming, the congress 4x the national debt, the congress borrowed a trillion to buy votes and called it a Stimulus and so on and so on…economists missed all that?
How blind, deaf and dumb to political impacts can modern American economists be?
Are these the same “experts” who are always “surprised”?
How is it about 80% of the time any jobs or inflation or whatever major stat appears….
you read “unexpected”, “above”, “more”, “below” and such?
Why is it the voices of conservatives screaming about the implications-reality of strident socialist policies are ignored…as in the days of Jimmah Carter? I will tell you. Its because liberals never ever accept the facts, the economic laws, human nature, the experience of other countries and simple history.
Economists and younger voters fall for the old democrat socialist Oz land policy speeches that failed before and will fail again.
Now the push for nationalized health care by a congress that cannot reform or refuses to reform (in 40 years) the fraud-efficiency-stupidity of Medicare. Go figure that.
How many huge federal programs must fail (and spend 3-7x whatever the “selling price” was) does it take?
The next natural historic democrat phase (as I mentioned all of 2009) will be the TAX U phase. They always spend us into deep debt then hammer our wallets to pay later. The gov-meant keeps hiring while the socialist Party keeps promising, keeps lying, keeps blame shifting and keeps taxing
J. Carter Obama is back. Plan accordingly.
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Posted by: ender on Jul 6, 2009 12:52 AM
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You have to stay positive to sell yourself and yet accept rejection - the most brutal, personal form of rejection possible in a capitalistic society - every single day.
You have to do all of this while the financial clock keeps ticking down to zero.
"A little while longer," are words you've been repeating to yourself and your family for months now, despite all evidence to the contrary.
There is no such thing as a jobless recovery.
It is merely the moneyed interests tightening their grip on the working class like a boa constrictor killing its prey.
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Posted by: cascadia on Jul 6, 2009 1:25 AM
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US troops have been withdrawn from "urban areas", after massive bases have been established all over Iraq. The actual number of troops will not appreciably decrease for years, and that's only if the Iraq puppet government meets requirements set up by the US.
The occupation of Iraq continues, with a new name.The previous administration used the occupation of Korea as an example of what they intended for Iraq, and it appears that game plan is moving forward.
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Posted by: bryangalt on Jul 6, 2009 2:15 AM
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So began my oddessy with unemployment. Due to the outrageous circumstances of my termination, the casino did not deny my unemployment claim so I got my first assistance check about 5 weeks later. Since then, I've had several periods where months went by without any help. At one point, I had to apply for food stamps, and it made me physically sick to do it. I only used them for the first month. I didn't send in the paperwork for the second month because I could not bear to be 'that bum' that so many of the heartless bastards in our society carry on about.
When Congress passed the first of the unemployment extensions, I felt like someone had thrown me a tiny string to pull me back from the edge. By that time, I had lost my car, I had to live with relatives who paid all the bills, I had applied for over 120 jobs without any responses, and I had decided that if I was to become homeless, I would kill myself.
I know that sounds like a harsh statement. But, I will not live for the sake of living. The thought of existing under a bridge was more than I wanted to think about.
The funny thing about Republicans is that they didn't support unemployment extensions. My dickhead Representative is Devin Nunes (R) CA 21, and his office told me that they don't like paying people to be on vacation. The unemployment I recieve is 42% of what I used to make at work. It's 100% of my survival. If they think this is vacation, I think they need to have their jobs cut off so that they can get a better feel for what it means to lose everything month after month-then hear your government officials act as if you are trying to milk the system.
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When good is made to appear bad and bad is manipulated to appear good, you're at a tipping point.
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Posted by: Honky the Nihilist IX on Jul 6, 2009 5:00 AM
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Honestly, is it better to be dead or a beggar?
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As long as government intrusion allows Governor Perry and the rest of his ilke their healthcare benefits, salaries and pensions for life why should they care about the Luz's of the world?
The disconnect is with the politicians here. Our Congress voted themselves a pay raise during our so called financial crisis.
The real crisis is the Wall Street Financiers who are being aided and abetted by our government, (you know Hank Paulson former CEO of Goldman Sachs).
Now we have centrists Obama seeing green shoots where yellow weeds are growing and doing nothing to stop Wall Street's raiding of the Federal Government's coffers.
Instead we have Geithner and Summers (both pro wall street) insisting that we can't upset the bankers because they know how to fix the mess.
Time to move to a different banana republic.
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» Amen to this. Pitchforks, torches and those damn firearms aimed at bankers and brokers.
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Posted by: littlepitcher on Jul 6, 2009 5:46 AM
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Our recession has been ongoing for a quarter of a century. We have long joked that if 2000 female mill hands lose their jobs, no-one cares, but if ten aerospace workers are laid off, the MSM media are called out en masse to cover the event.
As someone who held onto a paid-off house through seven desperate years of unemployment, scrap metal recycling, flea marketing, growing veggies in flower beds, and hauling water from springs when the municipal supply was cut off, I can sympathize with Ms. Guerra. Education means little, personal connections are paramount, and age is the ultimate sin and crime in the current economy.
Thank you all for finally noticing the problem.
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Is America about to taste the medicine it’s own institutions like the World Bank & International Money Fund have been administrating the world over for decades ?
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HALLIBURTON / KBR STEALING US BLIND !
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These diversions are keeping a gullible and non-informed public at bay. The American "Media" has been and will continue to be the pacifier that let's elections get stolen, criminals run the government, bankers steal the treasury and large corporations (the owners of the "Media") control people's lives. There is so much noise blanking-out the real reasons things are the way they are, no wonder it's getting worse.
Real leadership is the key, but that hasn't been the case for many, many years. Until then, it's gonna be every man for himself running in a hundred different directions . . just the way they like.
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Posted by: melusine on Jul 6, 2009 6:56 AM
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Basically, the "system" wants people such as myself to die. Fuck them, I say; I am not a commodity or a widget! If I go, who would raise my kids?
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Posted by: GatoPreto on Jul 6, 2009 7:38 AM
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What kind of moronic statement is that? You do realize your cred vaporised right there, don't you?!
Lay off the Strawbarry Kool Aid sister. The sooner the better.
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jul 6, 2009 7:49 AM
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remedy the problem. We don't do that here. People's lives are decided by corporations
and each state handles things their own way. I just don't believe that unemployment has to be as high as it is. When I worked in the Securities business I noticed that everytime a big company announced a cut-back, the stock always went up. That's because the profits went up. That raises many questions about today's practices. I don't believe it has to be this bad. Thanks, ANNA
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I just find that woman have the wrong programming of self sacrifice.
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Posted by: JSquercia on Jul 6, 2009 8:09 AM
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They were encouraged to allow for renegotiating of Mortgages but then they would have to write down the value of the mortgage . Our "elected" representatives made sure that Bankruptcy judges could not Cram Down mortgages .
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Took off from work to take care of someone? That does not make economic sense, as much you might feel it's compassionate. That's just not something you can or should be able to do in any vaguely capitalist system.
Had kids? That's a lifestyle choice. She created extra expenses for herself. No one made her do that.
Who deserves sympathy and economic help?
People without children.
People who did not buy a car if they live in a place with public transportation.
People who rent small apartments, or a room and did not get mortgages.
People without expensive personal habits - regardless of what they are.
Those who did not create these extra expenses for themselves should get tons of help - way more than they get now. Those who HAVE THE LEAST and TAKE THE LEAST should GET THE MOST. We should not reward those who cost more because of their own lifestyle choices. We should reward those who cost the least because of their own lifestyle choices.
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Posted by: marletat on Jul 6, 2009 9:24 AM
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Posted by: nantyglo22 on Jul 6, 2009 10:31 AM
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Losing a job is akin to losing a close friend whom you've known for years: "what will I do without you"?
Sure, we can say "we'll move on" (we have to) and "another one will come along" (but we don't know when) but time is against us. Time has a way of affecting our psyche and the way we handle a difficult time. It's a cruel numbers game.
Nice job by AlterNet for the article. I wish Luz and every unemployed person good luck on finding a job. I don't want anyone to go through what we're facing.
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"... the actual unemployment rate is 16.5%, pretty high numbers for a country that has spent an additional $14.5 billion (of the $787 billion dedicated since Obama's election) to putting people 'back to work.' "
The only people who have been put back to work are people on Wall Street. Beyond government money for unemployment extensions, I see no government funds being used in my area, either for new public or private works to increase employment or for general economic stimulation.
Besides, even if the pittance in direct "back to work" aid was actually effective, that $14.5 billion amounts to LESS THAN 2% of the billions handed to the Pirates of Wall Street, the same pirates that have stolen the bulk of America's wealth already.
We know from this who Obama's administration wants to stimulate – and it sure-as-hell isn't the "bottom" 95% of us.
Situations such a Luz's are spreading throughout the nation in exponential numbers; so my questions are these:
What IS America going to do with millions of people with no hope and no future and no support?
Where is America going to bury all of those who choose suicide?
How is America going to look to the rest of the world when massive ghettos grow like South American Favelas around its major cities?
What other nations will want to continue investing in such a failing and heartless nation, one whose stupid and greedy policies and far-reaching tentacles damage the world economy?
And, maybe most importantly, how is America going to cope with millions of extremely angry (and armed) people with nothing left to lose? It has been said that there is nothing more dangerous to a society than a person with nothing left to lose. We're now manufacturing millions, so I seriously doubt that there is an army on the planet big enough to contain violence on this scale if all of those people whose lives have been (and will be) destroyed choose to act.
The arrogant Powers That Be are playing a very dangerous game in a country that once drove out the strongest empire in the world and then went to war with itself for over four years, with a cost of over 600,000 lives.
Right now, even in the midst of a growing disaster, there still remains an adequate level of Good Old American Optimism. If that should ever die, however, God help us all.
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Jul 6, 2009 10:46 AM
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The severely corrupt governments + corporations are why so many people are suffering!!! There are abundant resources on this planet for EVERYONE to have clean water, food, shelter, decent jobs, medical care, etc.!!!
http://www.endthefed.us/
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Posted by: nolhausen on Jul 6, 2009 10:58 AM
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Yet, sooner or later someone must work on answers.
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Posted by: sausage on Jul 6, 2009 11:09 AM
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Luz began to apply for office manager jobs, receptionist jobs, sales clerk jobs
In short anything but a position requiring demanding physical labor.
True at 52 no one would want or should need to work at a physically demanding job. But since the Sixties the attitude of suburban white America and upwardly mobile minority America, the category into which Ms. Guerra falls, is that in order to get ahead one needs a college degree which is then the ticket to the white collar world of air conditioned office buildings, three martini lunches, shuffling papers from on side of the desk to the other between golf outings on the company tab as legitimate "business" meetings.
The diminution and degradation of physical labor accelerated during the Reagan years with the Alzheimer addled "Gipper" announced the end of an industrial-based economy and the glorious dawning of a "service" based "free market" economy. Then the outsourcing of our domestic manufacturing sector began in earnest, culminating the with the dreadful NAFTA and CAFTA which has driven US manufacturing south and out of work granjeros to El Norte.
In reality Ronnie Rayguns should have told the truth about our "service" economy: It is in reality a servant economy. Have you noticed that many of the new businesses opened within the past twenty years are in lawn and garden care, carpet cleaning, dog grooming and picking up the shit of same? Many workers laid-off in earlier downsizings and recessions opened "new" businesses where they are, in essence, "servants" of oh, so busy suburban white collar coordinators.
Now the shit is hitting the fan for the coordinator class. The niches for servant businesses are taken. Soon the only thing left for white collar coordinator class will be the opportunity to fight over the stoop labor jobs now held by illegals from south of the border.
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Posted by: rjs on Jul 6, 2009 12:34 PM
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When you wake up from whatever psychosis you're under, take a good look around and get educated.
Propaganda and lies do not equal truth.
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Posted by: sharonsylvie on Jul 6, 2009 12:39 PM
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I also want to add a comment about helping sick relatives. My nephew had to quit his job to care for my sister because we could not get any assistance--and she had very good health insurance. I spent what money I had left traveling across three states so I could spell my nephew every other month. I know of lots of people who bankrupted themselves to care for a sick family member because this country provides no help for you unless you are willing to give up everything and die in a government home.
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Posted by: CalKid on Jul 6, 2009 2:29 PM
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Reminds me of the Soviet Union producing too much of unneeded items so they could be sold inexpensively, but few wanted them.
Government Motors executives were part of our current problem. They produced cars that few wanted. They thought that their market could buy new cars every two years, and made them to last just a little longer. So Toyota, Honda and others started winning the market.
Worse, about 40 years ago the important Business Schools were claiming that the auto executives were allowing the unions to set make-work rules, and restrictive rules, and gaining such high wages that the business would eventually fail. They were right about the results of catering to the unions, just wrong about the timing.
It seems cruel to think so, but just as inefficient businesses can fail, and should be allowed to fail, so should lazy and uneducated citizens be allowed to fail.
Bg corporations are not the problem. In the U.S. 99.7% of businesses are small businesses, and they provide jobs for 50.4% of the workforce.
If you have never met a payroll out of your own pocket, you don't understand business, and your comments on this site are worthless.
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Posted by: jadedhope on Jul 6, 2009 2:42 PM
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These greedy, heartless, (I wanted to say "godless" but those "godly" republicans are just as selfish and greedy as pagan CEOs) investors don't see with their eyes the misery their insatiable lust for wealth is causing and neither their bought off politicians. We need a revolution in the worst way.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jul 6, 2009 6:08 PM
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I have the utmost Respect For Craig Murray Because as a UK Ambassador He Seriously Embarrassed The UK Government For Their Involvement in Receiving Information From TORTURE.
Not only did they force him out of his job, they have maintained an exceedingly long campaign to try and keep him silent.
If any American Journalist is reading this - then all I can say is that it is a VERY Interesting and VERY Current Newsworthy Story About The very Fundamentals of Democracy in a Country ENGLAND that is supposed to be an Example to the World as having the Oldest Most Long Running Democracy in The World.
Except Craig's Voice is Not Being Heard
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/
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Maybe you can help
Tony
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Posted by: ankius... on Jul 6, 2009 6:29 PM
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I have worked in an Unemployment Office for almost 10 years. Luz is making an all too common mistake in her job search, applying for things she is way over qualified for. She should stay focused on what she does best, helping people help themselves. Get a grant and start something. I know easier said than done but better than applying for housekeeping.
If looking for work in this economy, get creative, network, network some more and develop a high demand skill. Get a CDL, CNA x-ray tech what ever floats your boat and will keep the lights on. There is A LOT of money for school and training out there. Your community college will be delighted to tell you all about it!
One, you could go cry in your beer blaming Bush, Obama, the Federal reserve or space aliens or two get creative and make something happen! The solution lies within...
Or maybe I'm full of shit...
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Posted by: La Colombetta on Jul 6, 2009 10:57 PM
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I am hungry now, but I will have my revenge. I have one of the top law firms in the country on the case and hope to have at least as big a case as the successful one brought against Microsoft by its Permatemps (Vizcaino vs Microsoft). Unfortunately for Apple, I am a very worthy opponent. As sharp as my lawyer is, he always remarks that I have a 'steel trap mind,' which I actually take as a pretty big compliment.
I WILL fight the good fight for the 'little people,' and I will use the ego of my abuser against him to ultimately crush him. Heed my warning, Apple... This is not an idle threat.
To any other corporation even attempting to abuse my rights or those of others, you must heed my warning also. Let's watch them like hawks folks. It's the only way to reverse this hell we all find ourselves in at this moment. All I will reveal for now, is that although I am poor, I am connected to some unusual folk in high places and I will use this to go after who ever I need to go after.
Power to the people :)
Peace
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Posted by: ruruben on Jul 7, 2009 2:19 AM
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Posted by: lsmart on Jul 7, 2009 8:21 AM
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We still have troops in 130 COUNTRIES that we're paying for every single month.
Here's the report - US Treasury financial statement
Spreading "democracy" all over the place while Americans go hungry is insanity.
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Posted by: charles000 on Jul 7, 2009 11:44 PM
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One of the previous comments contained these statements -
> . . and I had decided that if I was to become homeless, I would kill myself. <
This I do understand all too well. I'm just a bit shy of 60.
I listen to the usual suspect financial gurus on the radio, and read some of their articles, but what I come aweay with is that if you are young, fresh out of college, and looking for your first job, it will be rough, but eventually you'll "make it".
For folks in their 60s and beyond, if you are wiped out because your mutual funds took a turn for the worst, your house is already "under water" and you can't get any more credit, and all the credit cards are already maxed out, there are very few options left.
I'm not going to try to eek out an existence living from a shopping cart.
In my own context, I've had an interesting enough life, and am very grateful for the friends and experiences I have had over the years.
I leave behind no dependants, and in a sense. I'm free to depart.
One thing I do know for certain - the party's over.
We had our corporate "big 80s - greed is good" haydays, the dotcom bubble of the 90s, and the post Y2K bogus mortgage housing bubble.
Many of those "smartest guys in the room" types (as per the recent film about Enron) had this over the top, middle finger in your face if you get in my way attitude, everywhere, in almost every sector of finance and industry.
And now we are seeing the results of this "greed is good" gone wild era . . .
Never mind that many folks, myself included, tried for years to get people to look at this phony house of cards quarterly return obsessed business world and its obvious pathologies.
More than a few times I was ridiculed for daring to bring up such novel concepts as ethics, standards, and transparency in business operations. I was told I was naive, obsessed with utopian ideology, and so on.
I just wonder, how many of those same folks would respond to my "utopian" views now, but I digress.
If my time is up, and survival here is just too much of a ridiculous struggle, I'll quietly depart and that's that.
However, its those folks just getting of college I wonder about. They will be paying the tab for all the bailouts and stimulus funds that are now being utilized to correct the damage of the past decades. They will already be in debt, for years, just to pay off their student loans, before they even get their first job.
The USA we once knew is, for the most part, a hollow shell of a previous era.
Had the USA stayed out of Vietnam, and instead invested those dollars in advanced energy technologies, education, and health care reform, we might have a very different USA today.
But instead, we took an even further step backward, plunging into a completely bogus war in Iraq based on false information and fraud, and paid for with debt obligation to China.
As for me, even if I oculd survive for a few more years, only to have every cent dissapear into perpetual medical and heath care exoenses, I just can't get that enthusiastic about going through all that.
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Posted by: reelman on Jul 10, 2009 10:17 AM
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Samuelson: Economists Missed the Financial Crisis July 10.2009
Sooo after the democrat congress allowed millions of (year after year) subprime mortgages to be written (diversity/reverse discrimination bites back) for people (millions illegal!) who could never qualify traditionally, the congress allowed over 12 million illegals to milk America for fuel-social services, the congress passed major overspending bills for years, the democrats (secular socialists) gained power,
the new strident socialist president (he had a record) told voters for a year of his “redistribution-sharing plans”, our congress continued hiring (78,000 new gov-meant employees in 2009), the congress started meddling in big business, the congress defended Fannie-Freddie corruption, the congress made it plain high incomers were going to be hammered, the congress said harsh new eco-business laws were coming, the congress 4x the national debt, the congress borrowed a trillion to buy votes and called it a Stimulus and so on and so on…economists missed all that?
How blind, deaf and dumb to political impacts can modern American economists be?
Are these the same “experts” who are always “surprised”?
How is it about 80% of the time any jobs or inflation or whatever major stat appears….
you read “unexpected”, “above”, “more”, “below” and such?
Why is it the voices of conservatives screaming about the implications-reality of strident socialist policies are ignored…as in the days of Jimmah Carter? I will tell you. Its because liberals never ever accept the facts, the economic laws, human nature, the experience of other countries and simple history.
Economists and younger voters fall for the old democrat socialist Oz land policy speeches that failed before and will fail again.
Now the push for nationalized health care by a congress that cannot reform or refuses to reform (in 40 years) the fraud-efficiency-stupidity of Medicare. Go figure that.
How many huge federal programs must fail (and spend 3-7x whatever the “selling price” was) does it take?
The next natural historic democrat phase (as I mentioned all of 2009) will be the TAX U phase. They always spend us into deep debt then hammer our wallets to pay later. The gov-meant keeps hiring while the socialist Party keeps promising, keeps lying, keeps blame shifting and keeps taxing
J. Carter Obama is back. Plan accordingly.
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