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California Doesn't Need to Borrow Billions from Washington -- It Can Create Its Own Money
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"I understand that these cuts are very painful and they affect real lives. This is the harsh reality and the reality that we face. Sacramento is not Washington -- we cannot print our own money. We can only spend what we have."
- Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger quoted in Time, May 22, 2009
Christmas comes early, Governor. You can print your own money. Fiscally solvent North Dakota is doing it...and so can California. Now!
In a May 22 article in Time titled "Billions in the Red: Fiscal Reckoning in CA," Juliet Williams reports that since California voters have now vetoed higher taxes and further state government borrowing, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has indicated that he intends to close the budget gap almost entirely through drastic spending cuts. The cutbacks could include laying off thousands of state workers and teachers, ending the state's main welfare program for the poor, eliminating health coverage for about 1.5 million poor children, halting cash grants for about 77,000 college students, slashing money for state parks, and releasing thousands of prisoners before their sentences are finished. Schwarzenegger bemoaned the fact that the state could not print its own money but said it could only spend what it had.
But the state can create its own money. After all, banks do this every day. Certified, card-carrying bankers are allowed to do something nobody else can do: they can create "credit" with accounting entries on their books. As the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas explains on its website:
Banks actually create money when they lend it. Here's how it works: Most of a bank's loans are made to its own customers and are deposited in their checking accounts. Because the loan becomes a new deposit, just like a paycheck does, the bank...holds a small percentage of that new amount in reserve and again lends the remainder to someone else, repeating the money-creation process many times.
President Obama has also acknowledged that banks create money, through what he calls the "multiplier effect." In a speech at Georgetown University on April 14, he said:
[A]lthough there are a lot of Americans who understandably think that government money would be better spent going directly to families and businesses instead of banks -- "where's our bailout?" they ask -- the truth is that a dollar of capital in a bank can actually result in eight or ten dollars of loans to families and businesses, a multiplier effect that can ultimately lead to a faster pace of economic growth.
Money in a government-owned bank could give us the best of both worlds. We could have all the credit-generating advantages of private banks, without the baggage cluttering up the books of the Wall Street giants, including bad derivatives bets, unmarketable collateralized debt obligations, mark to market accounting issues, oversized CEO salaries and bonuses, and shareholders expecting a sizeable cut of the profits. A state could deposit its vast revenues in its own state-owned bank and proceed to fan them into eight to 10 times their face value in loans. Not only would it have its own credit machine, but it would control the loan terms. The state could lend at ½% interest to itself and to municipal governments, rolling the loans over as needed until the revenues had been generated to pay them off. According to Professor Margrit Kennedy in her 1995 book Interest and Inflation-free Money, interest composes, on average, fully half the cost of every public project. Cutting costs by 50% could make currently-unsustainable projects such as low-cost housing, alternative energy development, and infrastructure construction not only sustainable but actually profitable for the government.
If all this seems too radical and unprecedented to venture into, consider that one state has had its own bank for 90 years; and it has not only escaped the credit crunch but is doing remarkably well...
The Innovative Bank of North Dakota
Only three of 50 states are now solvent, meaning they have the revenues to meet their state budgets; and one of them is North Dakota. It is an unlikely candidate for the distinction. It is a sparsely populated state of fewer than 700,000 people, largely located in isolated farming communities afflicted with cold weather. Yet since 2000, the state's GNP has grown 56%, personal income has grown 43%, and wages have grown 34%. The state not only has no funding issues, but this year it actually has a budget surplus of $1.2 billion, the largest it has ever had.
North Dakota boasts the only state-owned bank in the nation. The Bank of North Dakota (BND) was established by the state legislature in 1919 specifically to free farmers and small businessmen from the clutches of out-of-state bankers and railroad men. The bank's stated mission is to deliver sound financial services that promote agriculture, commerce and industry in North Dakota. By law, the state must deposit all its funds in the bank, which pays a competitive interest rate to the state treasurer. The state rather than the FDIC guarantees the bank's deposits, which are plowed back into the state in the form of loans. The bank's return on equity is about 25%, and it pays a hefty dividend to the state, which is expected to exceed $60 million this year. In the last decade, the BND has turned back a third of a trillion dollars to the state's general fund, offsetting taxes. The former president of the BND is now the state's governor.
The BND avoids rivalry with private banks by partnering with them. Most lending is originated by a local bank. The BND then comes in to participate in the loan, share risk, and buy down the interest rate. The BND provides a secondary market for real estate loans, which it buys from local banks. Its residential loan portfolio is now $500 billion to $600 billion. Guarantees are also provided for entrepreneurial startups, and the BND has ample money to lend to students (over 184,000 outstanding loans). It purchases municipal bonds from public institutions, and it backs loans made to new farmers at 1% interest. The BND also has a well-funded disaster loan program, which helps explain how Fargo, when struck by a disastrous flood recently, managed to avoid the devastation suffered by New Orleans in similar circumstances.
North Dakota has also managed to avoid the credit freeze, through the simple expedient of creating its own credit. It has led the nation in establishing state economic sovereignty. In California and other states, workers and factories are sitting idle because the private credit system has failed. An injection of new money from a system of publicly-owned banks on the model of the Bank of North Dakota could thaw the credit freeze and bring spring to the markets once again.
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Posted by: we_need_Abe on May 27, 2009 6:03 AM
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» What gives is you need to turn off the television and search for answers on your own.
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Posted by: luther6 on May 27, 2009 6:19 AM
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Posted by: KerriKnox,RN on May 27, 2009 6:59 AM
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And, the idea of ANY person or agency 'becoming a bank' in order to 'create' money because they are now bankrupt, but have a steady stream of income and don't want to become more fiscally responsible will NOT make one more prosperous.
Remember the old adage of "Just because you can doesn't mean that you should."
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» Was this tongue-in-cheek?
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Posted by: rafaeltoral on May 27, 2009 7:21 AM
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Look at the terrible disaster that is our monetary system today. It is partly because banks(including the federal reserve) have been printing money without creating anything of value to back the money created.
When you print money without creating value you are devaluing the money already in circulation. This leads to inflation. In essence you are stealing money from anyone who holds dollars.
See money is just paper. It used to be backed by gold. You could take your dollar bill to the bank and exchange it for a dollar worth of gold.
Money has to have something of value behind it to be truly be worth anything.
I dont have the time or power of pen to explain all of this to you. There are loads and loads of information on the internet.
To sum it up our current monetary system is a total and absolute scam.
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» That money doesn't look like "thin air" on April 15.
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» Fiat money can work
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» RE: That money doesn't look like "thin air" on April 15.
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» What the hell do you think 'credit' is?
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Posted by: clvngodess on May 27, 2009 7:24 AM
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Besides, since I live in CA and voted against any more taxes (they're wiping some of us out), there are better solutions. The state and it's spending should be audited for where the hemorrhages actually are, then those hemorrhages must be stopped. The governator and his team are acting like babies, crying because the people told them "No. No more bleeding of our turnip. Ain't no blood there." So now they have to actually think and come up with real solutions. In the meantime, all this whining about cuts and job losses is merely a political temper tantrum. I dare say the same thing holds for Los Angeles, too. Find the oversight, find where the moolah is being mismanaged and fix the real problems. Then, get rid of obsolete programs or things that are not working.
But they don't get this, do they?
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» California has had almost no tax increases in thirty years
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Posted by: fearn on May 27, 2009 7:39 AM
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» billions of what? paper?
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Posted by: tjg1984 on May 27, 2009 8:39 AM
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To think that the government of California can spend itself into a hole until nobody wants to lend it money anymore, and then set up its own bank for the purpose of lending itself money, is silly.
Perhaps this proposal could be considered again once California has drastically cut its spending, but not before.
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Posted by: leafsong1 on May 27, 2009 9:05 AM
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» thank you!!!!
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Posted by: PaulK on May 27, 2009 9:57 AM
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One banker in particular, Joe Mollicone, took lots of money and ran. He came back after a long time spending out the money, and served a good stretch in the state Hilton. However, quite a few credit unions had bad loans and they all collapsed. RISDIC failed too. It took a number of perfectly sound credit unions down with it. Everyone's money was frozen, and most depositors took a "haircut" in the credit union liquidations. No, this didn't happen in a large recession, it happened in 1991, in normal times.
Any state (or the feds) can get into banking. The real question is, how corrupt is the state legislature, and can the state bank be effectively insulated from government corruption? With an excellent insulation system, I'd say go ahead, create a state bank. With a rotten insulation system, I'd say forget it.
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Posted by: socrates2 on May 27, 2009 10:34 AM
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Currency is a man-made tool. It's medium of exchange. I want to buy your corn. You want to buy my tires. Joe there wants to sell his tomatoes and Sarah wants to sell her embroider and buy tires. What do we do? Barter? Hardly.
As the Italians did a few centuries ago, we circulate paper _IOU's_ that can be exchanged for gold/silver/seashells, etc., at a moment's notice. These IOU's signify the rare commodity stored in someone's basement/safe.
I exchange the IOU's (a paper commodity) for your _commodity_ (tires, tomatoes, embroidery, etc.).
The brilliance of this plan is that the banker--knowing the IOU's are _circulating_ as an independent commodity of exchange and won't be exchanged for the rare commodity in his safe--prints more IOU's than there is commodity to back them up.
This is the modern Fractional Banking System.
ten (10) IOU's _circulate_ for every legitimately-backed one.
Now the credit part:
To top it off, when one borrows money from a creditor/bank, the bank opens a deposit account with fictional IOU's and issues a check. These fictional IOU's are backed by either collateral (real estate/cars/toasters/more IOU's) or one's good credit (i.e future earnings).
As one pays the bank with interest, the IOU's diminish/"vanish" and the deposit account eventually closes. This is moderately inflationary. Where there were once, say 10 dollars, with interest there are now 11.
The problems begin when one's IOU's/interest-earning credit is _sold_ by the bank because the bank needs cash/liquidity now.
Investors like these interest-earning IOU's and buy them up. So these IOU's become a commodity to be sold _for a profit_ by the banks. Recall, so far most of these IOU's have a guarantee of payment because the debtor does not want to lose his _collateral_.
Here's where greed enters the picture. Banks begin lending money (actually they create a credit/deposit account) in exchange for an IOU _secured by worthless collateral_.
Banks know they can sell these IOU's for a profit. In their eyes the IOU becomes the "investors's problem."
Credit rating agencies _for a fee_ go along with the game and give these bank IOU's low-risk rating. As a result trusting investors buy up these interest-bearing IOU's ignorant that little or no security backs the IOU.
There is your paper house of cards perpetrated by Wall Street. (Wall street traders "package" these worthless IOU'S for a commission.)
Money--as credit--is created by banks. And it is worthless money, equivalent to counterfeit money because _nothing of value_ backs this money/commodity.
At least when Uncle Sam prints money based on IOU's to the _very private_ Federal Reserve you and I _guarantee this money's value_ with the sweat of our brows under our quasi-slavery status of the 16th Amendment. If we don't pay taxes to pay off interest on the loan from the Fed, we go to Federal Prison. Ask Al Capone and Wesley Snipes.
It's been fiat money since 1913/14.
And if federal law does not prohibit California from issuing its own medium of exchange currency/commodity, then Arnie and the State should go for it. This California currency will be backed by the threat of prison as well. What better credit is there?
The trick is to limit the creation of worthless credit/money based on inadequate collateral or an individual's inability to repay his loan.
The best part of the plan is that interest on the loans eventually fills the treasury to the point where we won't have to pay income taxes! The state begins to generate money from interest payments on its pefectly legitimate "fiat money." (to be continued)
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» aka fractional reserve policy.
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Posted by: socrates2 on May 27, 2009 10:36 AM
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If this currency/commodity is regulated and monitored, you will have is a modest, predictable inflation. If excess money is "created", you will have runaway inflation. The trick is to have honest bankers who limit credit to the "value" of the collateral commodity. And to beware of bubbles.
The best part is that a state that runs a profit-making bank can eliminate income taxes. What a concept!
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Should you believe these press releases? Should you care? Most of the propaganda about, “People are still travelling, and we expect a busy summer,” is wishful thinking on the part of the travel industry
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Posted by: zooeyhall on May 27, 2009 1:35 PM
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Furthermore, I would urge Alternet's readers to dig further into the fascinating "history behind the history" of this story and check out something called the "Non-Partisan League". A political movement of farmer's in the 20's and 30's that was largely composed of Scandinavian immigrants. As it is today, the Swedes in particular were strong believers in that dreaded Socialism and worked to have a public-owned bank and grain elevators in the state.
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Posted by: Dennis St. John on May 27, 2009 3:43 PM
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The federal government could make loans interest free to individuals and businesses.
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Posted by: d.stefano on May 27, 2009 7:37 PM
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I lost all my family, my partner died, even my cat died. I found myself homeless at 58 years old. Having been a typical middle class woman, from a 2 parent family, a great education, etc., stuff still can happen.
I ended up with an abundance of handicaps, including cancer.
After miles of red tape and determination, I finally got government housing, SSI, and Medi-Cal. I'm white and was born in Hollywood, CA.
A huge extended family certainly put in their fair share of taxes over the years, myself included, I feel I should have the benefits now that we all paid dearly for.
It's not a good thing to get $914/mo to live on. But it can get you by with a really strict budget and no entertainment or extras.
ARNIE thought it was a good idea to hit us with a $37/month deduction. If you can't screw over the poor, who can you screw over?
My guestimate is that this brings in about $90 million a year, probably more. A drop in the bucket to help our economy, but a drastic cut in income for people already living under the povery level.
He's rich, why should he care?
Besides cancer, I've had a heart attack and have pumonary disease (no I don't smoke). He's taking adults and some children off of Medi-Cal and cutting all dental.
This will be a serious disaster. I don't want to die a slow painful death because our leaders don't care about anything but their extravagant lifestyles.
I don't mind all the illegals here. If we REALLY didn't want them here, they wouldn't be here. But don't blame them. They didn't ask to go in front of me in line for social services, talk to the government about that.
How much revenue could be raised if all public buildings and services didn't offer free interpreters in 23 languages.
That's the first place I'd start slicing.
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Posted by: Ross Wolf on May 28, 2009 2:04 PM
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If U.S. Government guarantees California’s bonds for the world’s eighth largest economy, it is foreseeable China could reconsider the risks of future loans to the U.S.; reconsider whether to renew a trillion in outstanding U.S. debt and at the least raise its interest rate charged U.S. Taxpayers via U.S. Government borrowing. Any increase in China’s interest rate charged U.S. Government’s could be devastating to the U.S. annual budget, depleting funds needed for Americans.
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic lawmakers say they are asking for help from the U.S. Government only until the California economy turns around. But if California’s economy does not turn around, U.S. Taxpayers will be even more chained to China and to guaranteeing worthless California bonds.
Yesterday there were two conflicting TV news reports. The first, “The Recession is close to ending”, the second, “ Expect gasoline to go to four or five dollars a gallon.” Obviously if gasoline hits four or five dollars a gallon, many workers in CA and America could not afford to drive to work or buy as many store products or services. Much of America would not recover from the recession.
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Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on May 29, 2009 5:51 AM
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If they read this, I imagine a lot of people who read heard me explain how an economy works (the Islanders who grew bananas analogy) - one night on KOIA San Antonio are having a rueful laugh.
Damn, but we are spastic mentally, utterly deranged! Look up Ponzi Scheme, then think about it.
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» What gives is you need to turn off the television and search for answers on your own.
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Posted by: KerriKnox,RN on May 27, 2009 6:59 AM
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And, the idea of ANY person or agency 'becoming a bank' in order to 'create' money because they are now bankrupt, but have a steady stream of income and don't want to become more fiscally responsible will NOT make one more prosperous.
Remember the old adage of "Just because you can doesn't mean that you should."
Kerri Knox, RN
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» RE: What an Incredibly Bad Idea
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» Was this tongue-in-cheek?
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» It's a bad idea for a different reason
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Posted by: rafaeltoral on May 27, 2009 7:21 AM
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Look at the terrible disaster that is our monetary system today. It is partly because banks(including the federal reserve) have been printing money without creating anything of value to back the money created.
When you print money without creating value you are devaluing the money already in circulation. This leads to inflation. In essence you are stealing money from anyone who holds dollars.
See money is just paper. It used to be backed by gold. You could take your dollar bill to the bank and exchange it for a dollar worth of gold.
Money has to have something of value behind it to be truly be worth anything.
I dont have the time or power of pen to explain all of this to you. There are loads and loads of information on the internet.
To sum it up our current monetary system is a total and absolute scam.
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» That money doesn't look like "thin air" on April 15.
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» Fiat money can work
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» RE: That money doesn't look like "thin air" on April 15.
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» What the hell do you think 'credit' is?
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» Call a spade a spade
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» To really understand our current banking system...
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Posted by: clvngodess on May 27, 2009 7:24 AM
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Besides, since I live in CA and voted against any more taxes (they're wiping some of us out), there are better solutions. The state and it's spending should be audited for where the hemorrhages actually are, then those hemorrhages must be stopped. The governator and his team are acting like babies, crying because the people told them "No. No more bleeding of our turnip. Ain't no blood there." So now they have to actually think and come up with real solutions. In the meantime, all this whining about cuts and job losses is merely a political temper tantrum. I dare say the same thing holds for Los Angeles, too. Find the oversight, find where the moolah is being mismanaged and fix the real problems. Then, get rid of obsolete programs or things that are not working.
But they don't get this, do they?
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» RE: We "got into the bankster mess we are already in"
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» California has had almost no tax increases in thirty years
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Posted by: fearn on May 27, 2009 7:39 AM
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» billions of what? paper?
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Posted by: tjg1984 on May 27, 2009 8:39 AM
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To think that the government of California can spend itself into a hole until nobody wants to lend it money anymore, and then set up its own bank for the purpose of lending itself money, is silly.
Perhaps this proposal could be considered again once California has drastically cut its spending, but not before.
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Posted by: leafsong1 on May 27, 2009 9:05 AM
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» thank you!!!!
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Posted by: PaulK on May 27, 2009 9:57 AM
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One banker in particular, Joe Mollicone, took lots of money and ran. He came back after a long time spending out the money, and served a good stretch in the state Hilton. However, quite a few credit unions had bad loans and they all collapsed. RISDIC failed too. It took a number of perfectly sound credit unions down with it. Everyone's money was frozen, and most depositors took a "haircut" in the credit union liquidations. No, this didn't happen in a large recession, it happened in 1991, in normal times.
Any state (or the feds) can get into banking. The real question is, how corrupt is the state legislature, and can the state bank be effectively insulated from government corruption? With an excellent insulation system, I'd say go ahead, create a state bank. With a rotten insulation system, I'd say forget it.
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Posted by: socrates2 on May 27, 2009 10:34 AM
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Currency is a man-made tool. It's medium of exchange. I want to buy your corn. You want to buy my tires. Joe there wants to sell his tomatoes and Sarah wants to sell her embroider and buy tires. What do we do? Barter? Hardly.
As the Italians did a few centuries ago, we circulate paper _IOU's_ that can be exchanged for gold/silver/seashells, etc., at a moment's notice. These IOU's signify the rare commodity stored in someone's basement/safe.
I exchange the IOU's (a paper commodity) for your _commodity_ (tires, tomatoes, embroidery, etc.).
The brilliance of this plan is that the banker--knowing the IOU's are _circulating_ as an independent commodity of exchange and won't be exchanged for the rare commodity in his safe--prints more IOU's than there is commodity to back them up.
This is the modern Fractional Banking System.
ten (10) IOU's _circulate_ for every legitimately-backed one.
Now the credit part:
To top it off, when one borrows money from a creditor/bank, the bank opens a deposit account with fictional IOU's and issues a check. These fictional IOU's are backed by either collateral (real estate/cars/toasters/more IOU's) or one's good credit (i.e future earnings).
As one pays the bank with interest, the IOU's diminish/"vanish" and the deposit account eventually closes. This is moderately inflationary. Where there were once, say 10 dollars, with interest there are now 11.
The problems begin when one's IOU's/interest-earning credit is _sold_ by the bank because the bank needs cash/liquidity now.
Investors like these interest-earning IOU's and buy them up. So these IOU's become a commodity to be sold _for a profit_ by the banks. Recall, so far most of these IOU's have a guarantee of payment because the debtor does not want to lose his _collateral_.
Here's where greed enters the picture. Banks begin lending money (actually they create a credit/deposit account) in exchange for an IOU _secured by worthless collateral_.
Banks know they can sell these IOU's for a profit. In their eyes the IOU becomes the "investors's problem."
Credit rating agencies _for a fee_ go along with the game and give these bank IOU's low-risk rating. As a result trusting investors buy up these interest-bearing IOU's ignorant that little or no security backs the IOU.
There is your paper house of cards perpetrated by Wall Street. (Wall street traders "package" these worthless IOU'S for a commission.)
Money--as credit--is created by banks. And it is worthless money, equivalent to counterfeit money because _nothing of value_ backs this money/commodity.
At least when Uncle Sam prints money based on IOU's to the _very private_ Federal Reserve you and I _guarantee this money's value_ with the sweat of our brows under our quasi-slavery status of the 16th Amendment. If we don't pay taxes to pay off interest on the loan from the Fed, we go to Federal Prison. Ask Al Capone and Wesley Snipes.
It's been fiat money since 1913/14.
And if federal law does not prohibit California from issuing its own medium of exchange currency/commodity, then Arnie and the State should go for it. This California currency will be backed by the threat of prison as well. What better credit is there?
The trick is to limit the creation of worthless credit/money based on inadequate collateral or an individual's inability to repay his loan.
The best part of the plan is that interest on the loans eventually fills the treasury to the point where we won't have to pay income taxes! The state begins to generate money from interest payments on its pefectly legitimate "fiat money." (to be continued)
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» aka fractional reserve policy.
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Posted by: socrates2 on May 27, 2009 10:36 AM
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If this currency/commodity is regulated and monitored, you will have is a modest, predictable inflation. If excess money is "created", you will have runaway inflation. The trick is to have honest bankers who limit credit to the "value" of the collateral commodity. And to beware of bubbles.
The best part is that a state that runs a profit-making bank can eliminate income taxes. What a concept!
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» Addendum to myself ...
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Posted by: zooeyhall on May 27, 2009 1:35 PM
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Furthermore, I would urge Alternet's readers to dig further into the fascinating "history behind the history" of this story and check out something called the "Non-Partisan League". A political movement of farmer's in the 20's and 30's that was largely composed of Scandinavian immigrants. As it is today, the Swedes in particular were strong believers in that dreaded Socialism and worked to have a public-owned bank and grain elevators in the state.
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Posted by: Dennis St. John on May 27, 2009 3:43 PM
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The federal government could make loans interest free to individuals and businesses.
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Posted by: d.stefano on May 27, 2009 7:37 PM
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I lost all my family, my partner died, even my cat died. I found myself homeless at 58 years old. Having been a typical middle class woman, from a 2 parent family, a great education, etc., stuff still can happen.
I ended up with an abundance of handicaps, including cancer.
After miles of red tape and determination, I finally got government housing, SSI, and Medi-Cal. I'm white and was born in Hollywood, CA.
A huge extended family certainly put in their fair share of taxes over the years, myself included, I feel I should have the benefits now that we all paid dearly for.
It's not a good thing to get $914/mo to live on. But it can get you by with a really strict budget and no entertainment or extras.
ARNIE thought it was a good idea to hit us with a $37/month deduction. If you can't screw over the poor, who can you screw over?
My guestimate is that this brings in about $90 million a year, probably more. A drop in the bucket to help our economy, but a drastic cut in income for people already living under the povery level.
He's rich, why should he care?
Besides cancer, I've had a heart attack and have pumonary disease (no I don't smoke). He's taking adults and some children off of Medi-Cal and cutting all dental.
This will be a serious disaster. I don't want to die a slow painful death because our leaders don't care about anything but their extravagant lifestyles.
I don't mind all the illegals here. If we REALLY didn't want them here, they wouldn't be here. But don't blame them. They didn't ask to go in front of me in line for social services, talk to the government about that.
How much revenue could be raised if all public buildings and services didn't offer free interpreters in 23 languages.
That's the first place I'd start slicing.
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Posted by: Ross Wolf on May 28, 2009 2:04 PM
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If U.S. Government guarantees California’s bonds for the world’s eighth largest economy, it is foreseeable China could reconsider the risks of future loans to the U.S.; reconsider whether to renew a trillion in outstanding U.S. debt and at the least raise its interest rate charged U.S. Taxpayers via U.S. Government borrowing. Any increase in China’s interest rate charged U.S. Government’s could be devastating to the U.S. annual budget, depleting funds needed for Americans.
California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic lawmakers say they are asking for help from the U.S. Government only until the California economy turns around. But if California’s economy does not turn around, U.S. Taxpayers will be even more chained to China and to guaranteeing worthless California bonds.
Yesterday there were two conflicting TV news reports. The first, “The Recession is close to ending”, the second, “ Expect gasoline to go to four or five dollars a gallon.” Obviously if gasoline hits four or five dollars a gallon, many workers in CA and America could not afford to drive to work or buy as many store products or services. Much of America would not recover from the recession.
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Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on May 29, 2009 5:51 AM
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If they read this, I imagine a lot of people who read heard me explain how an economy works (the Islanders who grew bananas analogy) - one night on KOIA San Antonio are having a rueful laugh.
Damn, but we are spastic mentally, utterly deranged! Look up Ponzi Scheme, then think about it.
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