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Stress Tests for Wall Street -- What About the Billions in off-the-Books Toxic Assets?
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At the center of President Obama's overhaul strategy for Wall Street are the "stress tests" which will be applied to all financial institutions. But how accurate will the test results be? That will depend on whether the treasury takes off-balance-sheet assets into account, experts say. Back in February, in the House Financial Service Committee, when asked a question about the value of Citigroup's assets, CEO Vikram Pandit provided a less-than-clear response: "It's an extraordinarily difficult question."
Click the video below to WATCH the exchange between Rep. Louis Gutierrez (D-IL) and Vikram Pandit.
Rob Weissman, director of the corporate watchdog group, Essential Action, and author of a new report called Sold Out: How Wall Street and Washington Betrayed America, said that, in addition to what Pandit said, there's an additional factor that could fog the test results: off-the-book assets.
"If you don't include the off-balance sheet assets in the stress test, then it's not a legitimate stress test," Weissman said. "It's pretty plain that the off-balance-sheet operations are a central part of the story of why we don't know what the banks own." The Treasury Department declined to comment on whether they would take off-book-assets into account when running the stress tests.
Weissman says that recipients of bailout money, like Citigroup, Bank of America and JP Morgan, have been engaging in "fanciful accounting" of what they owe and what they own by relocating of their less-than-healthy assets off the books, in shadow corporations. Rep. Brad Sherman has described the process as, "apples on one balance sheet and oranges on another."
According to RGE Monitor, off-balance-sheet operations have skyrocketed over the last 15 years. From 1992 to 2007, on-balance-sheet assets grew by 200 percent, while off-balance-sheet assets grew by 1,518 percent. In 2007, it was estimated that there was 15.9 times more money parked in off-balance-sheet operations than in on-the-book operations. Not all off-book assets are toxic. Some financial institutions might park assets off their books if they are planning, for instance, to sell them. However, in rough economic times, off-balance sheet accounting allows banks to veil their losses from investors, regulators, and even insiders.
"This turns out to be a really important benefit [for a bank] if it happens to be insolvent," Weissman added. "And many believe that if you total Citigroup's assets and liabilities, it is insolvent."
As of July, Citigroup appeared to have the most off-book assets -- an estimated $1.1 trillion. But they aren't alone. As of July 2009, JP Morgan Chase & Co. had more than $400 billion off their books. Bank of America had $48.2 billion off the books before it bought Merrill Lynch. "If you start adding up all the potential exposures, it's a huge number," Sam Golden, former ombudsman for the U.S. Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, told Bloomberg. "The banks will say that it was disclosed. Investors are saying, 'Yeah, but it was cryptic.'"
Disclosure rules for off-balance sheet operations are notably less strict than those for assets on the books. Neri Bukspan, chief accountant for Standard & Poor's told Bloomberg, "A lot of information tends to disappear."
The use of the off-balance-sheet assets was a core part of the Enron scandal, where they were able to wrap debt inside of debt, using obscure corporations, so no one could track what they owed and what they owned. After the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 was set in place, there were efforts to address the problems with off-book assets. But after heavy lobbying by two main trade groups, the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association and the American Securitization Forum, banks were given special exemptions.
In September of 2008 as the financial crisis was coming into full view, the Senate Baking, Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee held a hearing, discussing off-balance sheet operations. Senator Jack Reed recalled Enron: "This phenomenon of moving assets off the balance sheets is eerily familiar. We recall back in the days of Enron that its schemes to manufacture false profits included special purpose entities that conducted transactions off-balance sheet. The goal was to avoid financial reporting. While no one is necessarily suggesting scandals of the Enron kind, we cannot fail to admit the irony. We are dealing with a similar problem yet again, only six years later."
George P. Miller, Executive Director of the American Securitization Forum, said that moving assets off-book back on to the books would cause dangerous swelling of balance sheets. He added, "There are many other steps that the industry can and should undertake to promote broader and better transparency about risk exposures in these vehicles, whether they are on or off-balance sheet."
But Donald Young, former member of the Financial Accounting Standards Board countered, "We just had an investment bank [Lehman Brothers] go bankrupt with a fair value balance sheet that showed it had plenty of assets and liabilities. And it almost seems like financial reporting is out of control and not trusted and not believed in. And I think what we do here has got to establish transparency. If the transparency is such that we're going to bring out some bad news that wasn't there before, that's a risk. But I think the benefits of reestablishing confidence in the markets will overwhelm that."
The Financial Accounting Standards Board (FASB) are revising the rules so some off-book assets will have to be reported on the books. However, the changes won't be effective until January 2010 at the earliest. In March at a House Financial Services Subcommittee hearing, Rep. Sherman complained about this lag. He told the chairman of the FASB, Bob Herz, "If you guys can't act quickly and logically, perhaps the regulatory accountants need to act and depart from what is a somewhat illogical and certainly slow process that you've got."
In the meantime, in a recent letter to his employees, Pandit has said Citigroup is having its best quarter since 2007 and the bank had conducted its own internal stress tests with positive results. But Weissman says something doesn't add up. "Either they've done a lot of due diligence in a short amount of time that they hadn't done before, or the stories are incompatible."
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Posted by: Sojourner on Apr 3, 2009 4:25 PM
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I don't follow stuff day to day, so I could be mistaken. But my memory is that a major CPA firm went belly-up for playing "off the book games" for pay.
If these banks go the way of Enron, as this article implies, why would their CPAs have anything different to expect? Yes, people take the money and run. But without knowing any of the details, my sense is you are talking about a whole lot of people liable for fraud.
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» So, the CPAs for Enron, CPAs for banks, absolutely?
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Apr 3, 2009 5:42 PM
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I know how they did it and why they did it.
If you want the real inside information of what the fuck is going on then I can only ask you to read Karl Denninger's Website
I don't always agree with him
But he lays it out with far more intelligence and analysis than I can
I apologise for my previous post which was correctly deleted because it was completely off topic
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Apr 3, 2009 6:44 PM
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THE PROTESTORS
And Take Photographs Of Your Political Leaders
Tony
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Apr 3, 2009 7:46 PM
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They took them on Trust
But when they looked inside
All they found was human turds
The London City Boys sent them back to Washington and DEMANDED Repayment
That was what Your First Bailout Was About
You Remember - Back Last October
The Washington Politicians said to New York - You REALLY DO NOT WANT TO SCREW LONDON
REFUND THEM NOW
So The London City Boys have got most of Their Money Back For The Turds You Yankee Boys Sent Them
But That Is Not ENOUGH
They Feel Offended
They Trusted You
And You Betrayed That Trust
Now You Yankee Wall Street Guys Might Think You Know How To Play Monopoly
But the important thing is that you throw the dice fair
If You are Caught Cheating
You Get Sent To JAIL
And All Your Assets Are Confiscated
And You LOSE The Game
Tony
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Apr 3, 2009 8:28 PM
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Robert Fisk’s World: A brave man who stood alone. If only the world had listened to him
I wish I had met Tom Hurndall, a remarkable man of remarkable principle
Saturday, 28 March 2009
I don't know if I met Tom Hurndall. He was one of a bunch of "human shields" who turned up in Baghdad just before the Anglo-American invasion in 2003, the kind of folk we professional reporters make fun of. Tree huggers, that kind of thing. Now I wish I had met him because – looking back over the history of that terrible war – Hurndall's journals (soon to be published) show a remarkable man of remarkable principle. "I may not be a human shield," he wrote at 10.26 on 17 March from his Amman hotel. "And I may not adhere to the beliefs of those I have travelled with, but the way Britain and America plan to take Iraq is unnecessary and puts soldiers' lives above those of civilians. For that I hope that Bush and Blair stand trial for war crimes."
Hurndall got it about right, didn't he? It wasn't so simple as war/no war, black and white, he wrote. "Things I've heard and seen over the last few weeks proves what I already knew; neither the Iraqi regime, nor the American or British, are clean. Maybe Saddam needs to go but ... the air war that's proposed is largely unnecessary and doesn't discriminate between civilians and armed soldiers. Tens of thousands will die, maybe hundreds of thousands, just to save thousands of American soldiers having to fight honestly, hand to hand. It is wrong." Oh, how many of my professional colleagues wrote like this on the eve of war? Not many.
We pooh-poohed the Hurndalls and their friends as groupies even when they did briefly enter the South Baghdad electricity station and met one engineer, Attiah Bakir, who had been horrifyingly wounded 11 years earlier when an American bomb blew a fragment of metal into his brain. "You can see now where it struck," Hurndall wrote in an email from Baghdad, "caving in the central third of his forehead and removing the bone totally. Above the bridge of his broken nose, there is only a cavity with scarred skin covering the prominent gap..."
A picture of Attiah Bakir stares out of the book, a distinguished, brave man who refused to leave his place of work as the next war approached. He was silenced only when one of Hurndall's friends made the mistake of asking what he thought of Saddam's government. I cringed for the poor man. "Minders" were everywhere in those early days. Talking to any civilian was almost criminally foolish. Iraqis were forbidden from talking to foreigners. Hence all those bloody "minders" (many of whom, of course, ended up working for Baghdad journalists after Saddam's overthrow).
Hurndall had a dispassionate eye. "Nowhere in the world have I ever seen so many stars as now in the western deserts of Iraq," he wrote on 22 February. "How can somewhere so beautiful be so wrought with terror and war as it is soon to be?" In answer to the questions asked of them by the BBC, ITV, WBO, CNN, al-Jazeera and others, Hurndall had no single reply. "I don't think there could be one, two or 100 responses," he wrote. "To each of us our own, but not one of us wants to die."
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Posted by: BenL8 on Apr 4, 2009 5:39 PM
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Posted by: Alex Hidell on Apr 4, 2009 9:28 PM
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Table 1, page 22 of 33 at this site
http://www.occ.treas.gov/ftp/release/2008-152a.pdf
Sec. Geithner should be fired for not complying with the Prompt Corrective Actions law that William Black mentioned last night on the Bill Moyers program.
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Posted by: Alex Hidell on Apr 4, 2009 9:39 PM
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""Here's the breakdown, according to the International Bank of Settlements, which acts as banker for the world's central banks:
1) Listed credit derivatives stood at USD 548 trillion;
2. The Over-The-Counter (OTC) derivatives stood in notional or face value at USD 596 trillion"
World derivative debt is $1.14 Quadrillion USD. For the US banks share of that see Table 1, page 22 of 33 at
http://www.occ.treas.gov/ftp/release/2008-152a.pdf
The jig is up folks. The US banks are essentially bankrupt, with $10.5 trillion in assets vs. $176 trillion in derivative debts.
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Posted by: RR#1 on Apr 5, 2009 2:34 PM
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http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/
law_suits_filed.html?page=3
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Posted by: jaylindberg@hotmail.com on Apr 10, 2009 9:35 AM
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The bottom line is that these corruptible institutions controlled the political process and most of the global economy.
The abuses of power and accumulation of wealth that went with it is bankrupting the system. What did we expect to happen?
I have a real estate/finance background. The tidal wave of debt that crushed our house of cards was obvious even if you were blind.
The people responsible for this corrupt circus need a working class ass kicking and a traitors justice.
Jay Lindberg
Author of Drug War Economics. Send me an email address and I will send you a pdf copy of it.
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Posted by: Sojourner on Apr 3, 2009 4:25 PM
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I don't follow stuff day to day, so I could be mistaken. But my memory is that a major CPA firm went belly-up for playing "off the book games" for pay.
If these banks go the way of Enron, as this article implies, why would their CPAs have anything different to expect? Yes, people take the money and run. But without knowing any of the details, my sense is you are talking about a whole lot of people liable for fraud.
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» So, the CPAs for Enron, CPAs for banks, absolutely?
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Apr 3, 2009 5:42 PM
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I know how they did it and why they did it.
If you want the real inside information of what the fuck is going on then I can only ask you to read Karl Denninger's Website
I don't always agree with him
But he lays it out with far more intelligence and analysis than I can
I apologise for my previous post which was correctly deleted because it was completely off topic
GM Said to Be Warned Obama Won’t Make Debt Payment
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Apr 3, 2009 6:44 PM
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THE PROTESTORS
And Take Photographs Of Your Political Leaders
Tony
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Apr 3, 2009 7:46 PM
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They took them on Trust
But when they looked inside
All they found was human turds
The London City Boys sent them back to Washington and DEMANDED Repayment
That was what Your First Bailout Was About
You Remember - Back Last October
The Washington Politicians said to New York - You REALLY DO NOT WANT TO SCREW LONDON
REFUND THEM NOW
So The London City Boys have got most of Their Money Back For The Turds You Yankee Boys Sent Them
But That Is Not ENOUGH
They Feel Offended
They Trusted You
And You Betrayed That Trust
Now You Yankee Wall Street Guys Might Think You Know How To Play Monopoly
But the important thing is that you throw the dice fair
If You are Caught Cheating
You Get Sent To JAIL
And All Your Assets Are Confiscated
And You LOSE The Game
Tony
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Apr 3, 2009 8:28 PM
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Robert Fisk’s World: A brave man who stood alone. If only the world had listened to him
I wish I had met Tom Hurndall, a remarkable man of remarkable principle
Saturday, 28 March 2009
I don't know if I met Tom Hurndall. He was one of a bunch of "human shields" who turned up in Baghdad just before the Anglo-American invasion in 2003, the kind of folk we professional reporters make fun of. Tree huggers, that kind of thing. Now I wish I had met him because – looking back over the history of that terrible war – Hurndall's journals (soon to be published) show a remarkable man of remarkable principle. "I may not be a human shield," he wrote at 10.26 on 17 March from his Amman hotel. "And I may not adhere to the beliefs of those I have travelled with, but the way Britain and America plan to take Iraq is unnecessary and puts soldiers' lives above those of civilians. For that I hope that Bush and Blair stand trial for war crimes."
Hurndall got it about right, didn't he? It wasn't so simple as war/no war, black and white, he wrote. "Things I've heard and seen over the last few weeks proves what I already knew; neither the Iraqi regime, nor the American or British, are clean. Maybe Saddam needs to go but ... the air war that's proposed is largely unnecessary and doesn't discriminate between civilians and armed soldiers. Tens of thousands will die, maybe hundreds of thousands, just to save thousands of American soldiers having to fight honestly, hand to hand. It is wrong." Oh, how many of my professional colleagues wrote like this on the eve of war? Not many.
We pooh-poohed the Hurndalls and their friends as groupies even when they did briefly enter the South Baghdad electricity station and met one engineer, Attiah Bakir, who had been horrifyingly wounded 11 years earlier when an American bomb blew a fragment of metal into his brain. "You can see now where it struck," Hurndall wrote in an email from Baghdad, "caving in the central third of his forehead and removing the bone totally. Above the bridge of his broken nose, there is only a cavity with scarred skin covering the prominent gap..."
A picture of Attiah Bakir stares out of the book, a distinguished, brave man who refused to leave his place of work as the next war approached. He was silenced only when one of Hurndall's friends made the mistake of asking what he thought of Saddam's government. I cringed for the poor man. "Minders" were everywhere in those early days. Talking to any civilian was almost criminally foolish. Iraqis were forbidden from talking to foreigners. Hence all those bloody "minders" (many of whom, of course, ended up working for Baghdad journalists after Saddam's overthrow).
Hurndall had a dispassionate eye. "Nowhere in the world have I ever seen so many stars as now in the western deserts of Iraq," he wrote on 22 February. "How can somewhere so beautiful be so wrought with terror and war as it is soon to be?" In answer to the questions asked of them by the BBC, ITV, WBO, CNN, al-Jazeera and others, Hurndall had no single reply. "I don't think there could be one, two or 100 responses," he wrote. "To each of us our own, but not one of us wants to die."
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Posted by: Alex Hidell on Apr 4, 2009 9:28 PM
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Table 1, page 22 of 33 at this site
http://www.occ.treas.gov/ftp/release/2008-152a.pdf
Sec. Geithner should be fired for not complying with the Prompt Corrective Actions law that William Black mentioned last night on the Bill Moyers program.
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Posted by: Alex Hidell on Apr 4, 2009 9:39 PM
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""Here's the breakdown, according to the International Bank of Settlements, which acts as banker for the world's central banks:
1) Listed credit derivatives stood at USD 548 trillion;
2. The Over-The-Counter (OTC) derivatives stood in notional or face value at USD 596 trillion"
World derivative debt is $1.14 Quadrillion USD. For the US banks share of that see Table 1, page 22 of 33 at
http://www.occ.treas.gov/ftp/release/2008-152a.pdf
The jig is up folks. The US banks are essentially bankrupt, with $10.5 trillion in assets vs. $176 trillion in derivative debts.
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Posted by: RR#1 on Apr 5, 2009 2:34 PM
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http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/
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Posted by: jaylindberg@hotmail.com on Apr 10, 2009 9:35 AM
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The bottom line is that these corruptible institutions controlled the political process and most of the global economy.
The abuses of power and accumulation of wealth that went with it is bankrupting the system. What did we expect to happen?
I have a real estate/finance background. The tidal wave of debt that crushed our house of cards was obvious even if you were blind.
The people responsible for this corrupt circus need a working class ass kicking and a traitors justice.
Jay Lindberg
Author of Drug War Economics. Send me an email address and I will send you a pdf copy of it.
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