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9 Reasons Obama's Fiscal Plan Fails Both Markets and Taxpayers
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Let's be clear: President Barack Obama inherited an economy in freefall and could not possibly have turned things around in the short time since his election. Unfortunately, what he is doing is not enough.
The real failings in the Obama recovery program lie not in the stimulus package -- though it is too heavily weighted toward tax cuts, and much of it merely offsets cutbacks by states -- but in its efforts to revive financial markets. America's failures provide important lessons to countries around the world that are or will be facing increasing problems with their banks:
1. Delaying bank restructuring is costly, in terms of both the eventual bailout costs and the damage to the overall economy in the interim.
2. Governments do not like to admit the full costs of the problem, so they give the banking system just enough to survive, but not enough to return it to health.
3. Confidence is important, but it must rest on sound fundamentals. Policies must not be based on the fiction that good loans were made, and that the business acumen of financial-market leaders and regulators will be validated once confidence is restored.
4. Bankers can be expected to act in their self-interest on the basis of incentives. Perverse incentives fueled excessive risk-taking, and banks that are near collapse but are too big to fail will engage in even more of it. Knowing that the government will pick up the pieces if necessary, they will postpone resolving mortgages and pay out billions in bonuses and dividends.
5. Socializing losses while privatizing gains is more worrisome than the consequences of nationalizing banks. American taxpayers are getting an increasingly bad deal. In the first round of cash infusions, they got about 67 cents in assets for every dollar they gave (though the assets were almost surely overvalued, and quickly fell in value). But in the recent cash infusions, it is estimated that Americans are getting 25 cents, or less, for every dollar. Bad terms mean a large national debt in the future.
6. Don't confuse saving bankers and shareholders with saving banks. America could have saved its banks, but let the shareholders go, for far less than it has spent.
7. Trickle-down economics almost never works. Throwing money at the banks hasn't helped homeowners: foreclosures continue to increase. Letting AIG fail might have hurt some systemically important institutions, but dealing with that would have been better than to gamble upwards of $150 billion and hope that some of it might stick where it is important. One of the reasons we may be getting bad terms is that if we got fair value for our money, we would by now be the dominant shareholder in at least one of the major banks.
8. Lack of transparency got America's financial system into this trouble. Lack of transparency will not get it out. The Obama administration is promising to pick up losses to persuade hedge funds and other private investors to buy out banks' bad assets. But this will not establish ''market prices,'' as the administration claims. Banks' losses have already occurred, and their gains must now come at taxpayers' expense. Bringing in hedge funds as third parties will simply increase the cost.
9. Better to be forward looking than backward looking, focusing on reducing the risk of new loans and ensuring that funds create new lending capacity.
There is no ''mystique'' in finance: The era of believing that something can be created out of nothing should be over. Short-sighted responses by politicians -- who hope to get by with a deal that is small enough to please taxpayers and large enough to please the banks -- will merely prolong the problem.
An impasse is looming. More money will be needed, but Americans are in no mood to provide it -- certainly not on the terms that we have seen. The well of money may be running dry, and so, too, may be America's legendary optimism and hope.
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Posted by: -matti on Mar 26, 2009 1:49 AM
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Just a coupla perfectly innocent questions.
No "we told you this would happen and you yelled at us" message implied here at all.
/dons flame-proof suit.
Perhaps Mr. O isn't really the Corporatist Shill that he would seem to be based on several of his actions. Maybe he's really a Realpolitik-type and when the wind blows Anti-Corporatist he'll suddenly become 1936 FDR and move that way.
"Yes we can!" "Hope" he'll "Change", I guess.
-matti.
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Posted by: Rolomax on Mar 26, 2009 1:56 AM
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Why do you not mention, in your wonderful prose, that the 'bailout' is actually a set of loans?
Do banks consider loans that are paid off to be a 'cost' ?
"Trickle down economics almost never works" ? It works for a few, but how does it 'almost never work' ?
This isn't about bank losses having occurred, it is about homeowner and business owner losses occurring.
"Bringing in hedge funds as third parties will simply increase the cost."
I can agree with that..
"Better to be forward looking than backward looking, focusing on reducing the risk of new loans and ensuring that funds create new lending capacity."
How do you reduce the risk of new loans in a down economy? How do you ensure that 'funds' create new lending capacity in a down economy?
Just a few things I'd like to know.
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Posted by: jstuv on Mar 26, 2009 5:05 AM
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Oversight and Regulation enforcement was practically non-existent, despite its FDR mandate.
Put a child in a Candy Store without oversight and he/she will get a tummy-ache. Bankers are no different.
Once strong, willful, energetic, competent prosecutors head governmental agencies, Consumer Confidence will be restored and our economic calamity will diminish.
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Oversight and Regulation enforcement was practically non-existent, despite its FDR mandate.
Put a child in a Candy Store without oversight and he/she will get a tummy-ache. Bankers are no different.
Once strong, willful, energetic, competent prosecutors head governmental agencies, Consumer Confidence will be restored and our economic calamity will diminish.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Mar 26, 2009 5:59 AM
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I heard the Best analogy 'If Geitner had 10 yrs to contemplate a solution in the halls of acedemia- he'd come up with a perfect solution- but He nor any one else has the luxury of that time'. Funny all those Scholars in Economics couldn't even comprehend the fact that Trickle Down was just an updated version of a Feudalistic economy. Let look to The Ivory towers of Academia- Chicago School of Economics? How about Harvard Business School? Yales School of Law? Oh look what some of our 'Ivy League' schools have gave US...'Brilliant' ah?
anyone with a History book and an Dictionary could figure out what 'Trickle Downs' parent was. Could comprehend the ramifications of Dereguatling the Stock market would do.
Our 'gold Star' Institutions of Higher education were not only failing to truely educate our citizens- they were putting out students indoctrinated in greed and arrogance, without regard of reverence of our nations past or Future.They didn't just dumb them Down, They Warped their minds.
You don't need a Doctorate in Economics or History, or an MBA from Harvard, You just need a lil' common sense. Those who were hired as our Public Servants Betrayed US, so they deserve to be prosecuted for at least Derelcition of Duty, if not Treason. Those in thefinancial Sector should face RICO charges and treason charges..If not Crimes against hamnity for Both groups because of the mass devastation it has caused to millions around the world.
this will not only clear out the shit ideologues, it will make damn sure it doesn't happen again- something that should have been done after the last time these Treasonous Types fucked US over. Don't jump, it would negate our chances to watch you hang.
Now who wants to stop trying to bury their shit in the kitty litter and get down to what will resolve this problem, for Free?
If the Politicans & Public Servants who aided this Wall Street organized Crime syndicate don't think we are itching to prosecute them too- they are stupidier than I thought.Start with Greenspan and Phil Gramm.
heres another lil' suggestion remove ALL essential resources from the Market gambling portfolio-esp Food, energy. Allow Wall Street to ONLY gamble on Non essential items. Relegate them to betting on Revelon vs Max Factor, Jack Daniels vs Jim Beam.
America was notonly built on the adage we contol our Gov't, Our Free market.'Wanna play Ball,scarecrow?' how about we remove any resource which effect the health and Welfare of our nation, our citizens and Humanity from your manipulation and speculation. In fact if we don't like the way you are playing, we'll not only take away your 'toys', we'll close you down whenever the mood strkes US. Just like a Good 'parent' should. In this country Wall Street also Serves (operates) at the pleasure of the People,NOT the other way around.Wall street is nothing more than Brick and Mortar, not the Ruling entity. Just a Tool, not the Craftsmen. In fact they are NOT even the 'Market'- they produce nothing, and do not determine consumption- merely skimmers off the ancient mechanism of commerce and trade. It's time we put Wall Street back in their place, the sidelines- mere middlemen who profit off the exchange within a Free Market system.
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Posted by: johnwinthrop on Mar 26, 2009 7:32 AM
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Obama moves fast. In general, in a crisis, that's good. But this stuff is complicated. Obama himself is smart, but not a financial guy. Are these 'reforms' being drafted by the shifty moneymen whe caused the crisis? (sorry ladies but the guys seem to have the corner on these slimy matters).
Steiglitz implies the fox runs the henhouse. Who should build the new farm, and what should it look like.
Just as it looked like the nation would thankfully need fewer lawyers, it now appears Obama and Geitner have come to the rescue of a new generation of lawyers to oversee the financiers. (The lobbyists of DC were created by and large by the New Deal and Great Society regulations and laws-leave it to liberals to create more multimillion dollar jobs for the educated elite and their kids. Now Obama has insured the Georgetown and Harvard Law grads of the future will enjoy the same perks and extraordinary access to power and influence as their predecessors for three generations on Pennsylavania Ave, Capitol Hill luxury townhouses, and K St and environs. If you don't know these locations, you probably think the govt is run at the US Capitol and at the White House.)
Will real people with real jobs benefit from any of this?
What real structures, real farms, real ships, real vehicles and real homes(perhaps clustered in cities as suburbs are gradually emptied and restored to parkland) does Obama plan to encourage or build? Right now, he is helping to reorganize stacks of paper and numbers in databases in the computers of scam artists for the benefit of ?????????
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Posted by: GuitarBill on Mar 26, 2009 8:01 AM
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Posted by: -matti on Mar 26, 2009 1:49 AM
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Just a coupla perfectly innocent questions.
No "we told you this would happen and you yelled at us" message implied here at all.
/dons flame-proof suit.
Perhaps Mr. O isn't really the Corporatist Shill that he would seem to be based on several of his actions. Maybe he's really a Realpolitik-type and when the wind blows Anti-Corporatist he'll suddenly become 1936 FDR and move that way.
"Yes we can!" "Hope" he'll "Change", I guess.
-matti.
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Posted by: Rolomax on Mar 26, 2009 1:56 AM
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Why do you not mention, in your wonderful prose, that the 'bailout' is actually a set of loans?
Do banks consider loans that are paid off to be a 'cost' ?
"Trickle down economics almost never works" ? It works for a few, but how does it 'almost never work' ?
This isn't about bank losses having occurred, it is about homeowner and business owner losses occurring.
"Bringing in hedge funds as third parties will simply increase the cost."
I can agree with that..
"Better to be forward looking than backward looking, focusing on reducing the risk of new loans and ensuring that funds create new lending capacity."
How do you reduce the risk of new loans in a down economy? How do you ensure that 'funds' create new lending capacity in a down economy?
Just a few things I'd like to know.
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Posted by: jstuv on Mar 26, 2009 5:05 AM
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Oversight and Regulation enforcement was practically non-existent, despite its FDR mandate.
Put a child in a Candy Store without oversight and he/she will get a tummy-ache. Bankers are no different.
Once strong, willful, energetic, competent prosecutors head governmental agencies, Consumer Confidence will be restored and our economic calamity will diminish.
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Posted by: jstuv on Mar 26, 2009 5:12 AM
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Oversight and Regulation enforcement was practically non-existent, despite its FDR mandate.
Put a child in a Candy Store without oversight and he/she will get a tummy-ache. Bankers are no different.
Once strong, willful, energetic, competent prosecutors head governmental agencies, Consumer Confidence will be restored and our economic calamity will diminish.
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» He's Historic So What Difference Does It Make If He Drives A Limo for Bankers?
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Mar 26, 2009 5:59 AM
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I heard the Best analogy 'If Geitner had 10 yrs to contemplate a solution in the halls of acedemia- he'd come up with a perfect solution- but He nor any one else has the luxury of that time'. Funny all those Scholars in Economics couldn't even comprehend the fact that Trickle Down was just an updated version of a Feudalistic economy. Let look to The Ivory towers of Academia- Chicago School of Economics? How about Harvard Business School? Yales School of Law? Oh look what some of our 'Ivy League' schools have gave US...'Brilliant' ah?
anyone with a History book and an Dictionary could figure out what 'Trickle Downs' parent was. Could comprehend the ramifications of Dereguatling the Stock market would do.
Our 'gold Star' Institutions of Higher education were not only failing to truely educate our citizens- they were putting out students indoctrinated in greed and arrogance, without regard of reverence of our nations past or Future.They didn't just dumb them Down, They Warped their minds.
You don't need a Doctorate in Economics or History, or an MBA from Harvard, You just need a lil' common sense. Those who were hired as our Public Servants Betrayed US, so they deserve to be prosecuted for at least Derelcition of Duty, if not Treason. Those in thefinancial Sector should face RICO charges and treason charges..If not Crimes against hamnity for Both groups because of the mass devastation it has caused to millions around the world.
this will not only clear out the shit ideologues, it will make damn sure it doesn't happen again- something that should have been done after the last time these Treasonous Types fucked US over. Don't jump, it would negate our chances to watch you hang.
Now who wants to stop trying to bury their shit in the kitty litter and get down to what will resolve this problem, for Free?
If the Politicans & Public Servants who aided this Wall Street organized Crime syndicate don't think we are itching to prosecute them too- they are stupidier than I thought.Start with Greenspan and Phil Gramm.
heres another lil' suggestion remove ALL essential resources from the Market gambling portfolio-esp Food, energy. Allow Wall Street to ONLY gamble on Non essential items. Relegate them to betting on Revelon vs Max Factor, Jack Daniels vs Jim Beam.
America was notonly built on the adage we contol our Gov't, Our Free market.'Wanna play Ball,scarecrow?' how about we remove any resource which effect the health and Welfare of our nation, our citizens and Humanity from your manipulation and speculation. In fact if we don't like the way you are playing, we'll not only take away your 'toys', we'll close you down whenever the mood strkes US. Just like a Good 'parent' should. In this country Wall Street also Serves (operates) at the pleasure of the People,NOT the other way around.Wall street is nothing more than Brick and Mortar, not the Ruling entity. Just a Tool, not the Craftsmen. In fact they are NOT even the 'Market'- they produce nothing, and do not determine consumption- merely skimmers off the ancient mechanism of commerce and trade. It's time we put Wall Street back in their place, the sidelines- mere middlemen who profit off the exchange within a Free Market system.
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Posted by: johnwinthrop on Mar 26, 2009 7:32 AM
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Obama moves fast. In general, in a crisis, that's good. But this stuff is complicated. Obama himself is smart, but not a financial guy. Are these 'reforms' being drafted by the shifty moneymen whe caused the crisis? (sorry ladies but the guys seem to have the corner on these slimy matters).
Steiglitz implies the fox runs the henhouse. Who should build the new farm, and what should it look like.
Just as it looked like the nation would thankfully need fewer lawyers, it now appears Obama and Geitner have come to the rescue of a new generation of lawyers to oversee the financiers. (The lobbyists of DC were created by and large by the New Deal and Great Society regulations and laws-leave it to liberals to create more multimillion dollar jobs for the educated elite and their kids. Now Obama has insured the Georgetown and Harvard Law grads of the future will enjoy the same perks and extraordinary access to power and influence as their predecessors for three generations on Pennsylavania Ave, Capitol Hill luxury townhouses, and K St and environs. If you don't know these locations, you probably think the govt is run at the US Capitol and at the White House.)
Will real people with real jobs benefit from any of this?
What real structures, real farms, real ships, real vehicles and real homes(perhaps clustered in cities as suburbs are gradually emptied and restored to parkland) does Obama plan to encourage or build? Right now, he is helping to reorganize stacks of paper and numbers in databases in the computers of scam artists for the benefit of ?????????
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CUT YOUR EXCESSIVE MILITARY SPENDING!
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