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Obama's Serious About Taking an Axe to Corruption and Waste at the Pentagon
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Of all Barack Obama’s promises of reform, perhaps the most audacious is his pledge to “restore honesty, openness, and commonsense to Pentagon contracting and procurement.” Washington is littered with the open-jawed skeletons of such efforts, and given the historic length of the White House to-do list, some might say taking on the defense establishment smacks of hubris. But a raft of recent statements, directives, and appointments indicate the administration fully intends to chaperone Pentagon shopping trips and hold defense contractors accountable in a way they never have been before.
For good reason, the president doesn’t specify exactly which golden-age standards he has in mind for the restoration of honesty and openness. In the half-century since Dwight Eisenhower’s farewell warning about an unaccountable “military-industrial complex,” not much has changed. Countless blue-ribbon commissions, white papers, and special hearings on the Hill have been set up to reform the system. Yet most defense analysts agree the problem is worse than ever. The Government Accountability Office estimates that 40 percent of Pentagon acquisitions come in over cost, the most since records began. Five percent of the military’s current base budget of $533 billion is thought to be lost through corruption every year. Other billions are simply unaccounted for in the Pentagon’s books, larger versions of those missing unmarked bricks of reconstruction cash we sent to Iraq by the hockey bag.
“We’re spending more than ever before for less and less,” says Winslow Wheeler, a lion among Washington’s defense reformers and director of the Straus Military Reform Project at the Center for Defense Information. “It’s a meltdown.”
Fulfilling a campaign pledge, the president has moved swiftly to address the problem. The White House has put an end to no-bid contracts and instructed the Justice Department to sniff out and prosecute cases of contractor waste and theft. Most important, on March 4, the White House ordered the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to craft strict new guidelines for overseeing contracts government-wide. In announcing this directive, the president singled out the Department of Defense, putting the Pentagon and its practically in-house contractors on notice that the days of “blank checks” are over.
Echoes of the president’s frustration can be heard in Congress, where Carl Levin and John McCain have introduced legislation to increase competition and make it easier to pull the plug on weapons programs that overshoot advertised cost. Meanwhile, at the Defense Department, Robert Gates has been making his own noises about the dawn of a more sober era in what the Pentagon buys and how.
If Gates proves the primary engine of reform at the Pentagon, he won’t be alone. Running the Pentagon’s acquisition’s office will be Ashton Carter, a reform-minded policy scholar and physicist who worked in Clinton’s Pentagon on non-proliferation issues. As the department’s weapons czar, Carter will preside over all meetings between Pentagon officials and contractors. He will decide, in consultation with the Defense Secretary and the White House, which weapons to buy, cut back, and kill. While some defense watchers say Carter lacks the acquisition experience and bureaucratic dog-fighting skills necessary to face down the defense executives, lobbyists, and generals who will be defending some $400 billion in business for contracted goods and services -- “They’ll view him as a plaything,” says one former employee of a major defense contractor -- others say he may prove a tiger.
“It’s true Ash Carter doesn't have a lot of acquisition experience, but there are those who think he can be pretty tough,” says Barry Watts, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessment. “We'll have to see how successful he can be in changing the system rather than being run over by it.”
“Carter had great ideas during his Clinton-era Pentagon tour, but he was widely regarded as bureaucratically weak,” says Travis Sharp, an analyst at the Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation. “This time around he still has great ideas and a clear view of where the Pentagon needs to go strategically. I think he is up to it, but he’ll be pitted against powerful interests in the private sector and on Capitol Hill. He needs allies.”
Not all the faces at Obama’s Pentagon are so fresh, of course. Many defense watchers and reform advocates remain confused and disappointed that Obama tapped William Lynn, a former Raytheon lobbyist, for number two at the Pentagon. Democrats are willing to trust the president, however, and within the Progressive Caucus only Claire McCaskill (D-MO) opposed the nomination.
Then there is Steve Kosiak, who holds the national security portfolio at OMB. Before joining the government, Kosiak directed budget studies at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessment (CBSA), an independent think tank that frequently produces reports critical of Pentagon planning and 10 and 11-digit weapons programs. Kosiak is known as a liberal and a reformer who cut his teeth under CSBA founder Gordon Adams, another liberal critic of excessive defense spending who served under Clinton in the same role at OMB. Kosiak has been especially critical of futuristic space-weapons programs. In a 2007 report he authored for CSBA, he threw cold water on industry claims that space-weapons were necessary for the country’s defense. Kosiak also urged decisions on such weapons be weighed carefully against their potential arms race implications.
“It’s becoming clear that Obama intends to use [Kosiak and others at] OMB as his primary agents for change,” says Wheeler, of the Center for Defense Information. “The Pentagon cannot reform itself on its own.”
But the White House appears have an ally in Defense Secretary Robert Gates, a career public servant on his last go-around. Last month, Gates told Defense News that the military budget to be released in April will “realize cost efficiencies [and] reassess all weapons programs -- especially those with serious execution issues.” In the January/February issue of Foreign Affairs, Gates criticized “ever more baroque” big-ticket weapons systems “that as have become ever more costly, are taking longer to build and are being fielded in ever dwindling quantities.”
Next month’s budget will see cuts to at least a few of the “baroque” weapons systems that have experienced epic cost overruns in recent years. Among the programs being watched closely are the F-22 Raptor fighter jet, the DDG-1000 destroyer, the Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle, mid-course missile defense, and the services-wide modernization program known as Future Combat Systems. Some combination of these will likely suffer from the “hard choices” Gates says will define Obama’s defense budget in 2010 and beyond.
These “hard choices” alluded to by Gates aren’t just a result of Congressional or White House outrage over cost overruns and corruption. They are being forced by a quiet and growing tension in the military between people and machines. The main driver of defense budget growth isn’t new fighter jets or bloated boondoggles like missile defense. Rather, it’s the growing costs of training, equipping, paying, and insuring increasing numbers of U.S. servicemen and women. Nearly sixty percent of the defense budget currently goes to costs related to basic personnel, operations, and maintenance. In ten years, the number is expected to touch 70 percent. “It is an accurate statement that our personnel costs are rising every year and consume a larger percentage of the budget,” Gates recently told Defense News. Health care costs in particular, he said, are “increasing at what I would call almost an alarming rate.”
Obama has no intention of cutting defense spending in this area. The president’s first military budget provides a 2.9 percent pay raise for soldiers and accelerates planned increases in the size of the Army and Marine Corps. “These personnel costs will consume much more than the $9 billion inflation-adjusted budget growth the administration is seeking,” notes Travis Sharp, of the Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation. “It is inevitable that the procurement and R&D accounts will be cut, because cutting the personnel account is political suicide and cutting the operations and maintenance account is impossible when there are two wars going on.”
The question, then, is how best to rationalize procurement and reign in weapons system costs. There are two main schools of thought. One focuses on the process of how we buy weapons; the other on what we buy.
The first theory holds that if strict guidelines and timetables are enforced, boondoggles will be avoided and corruption eliminated. This approach is reflected in the Levin-McCain legislation, forthcoming OMB guidelines, and Obama’s pledge to expand the officer contracting corps.
“How we buy it is key,” says Rudy deLeon, senior vice president of national security and international policy at the Center for American Progress. “The contracting side of the process needs to be greatly strengthened. The technology folks tell us what is possible, but the contracting guys actually obligate what we have to pay for. During the last eight years, the Bush Administration budgets reduced the career civilian workforce that possess essential contracting expertise. That was a huge loss going out the door.”
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Posted by: DrBrian on Mar 17, 2009 12:26 AM
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We can no longer afford global imperialism, beloved by politicians and academics.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Mar 17, 2009 1:20 AM
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Why do we have 4 Air Forces? The USAF was created when the Army Air Corps was spun off after WWII, yet the Army still has aviation, along with the Navy and Marine Corps.
Why do we have duplicate military commands for transportation, communication, supply, intelligence, Military Police, Combat Engineering, Medical support, Finance & Accounting and Administration?
Why does the Army have divers and the Navy land warfare special ops soldiers (SEAL)? Why cant the Navy provide the divers the Army needs and let US Army Special Forces handle the special ops the Navy needs.
We need a much more unified, interoperable and interdependent military- maybe not fully unified like Canada, but significantly in that direction. We cannot afford fiefdoms anymore.
There are certainly hundreds of billions to be saved in weapons system development and procurement, but the very structure of the beast is the bastard child of 200 years of civil politics and inter-service political haggling.
Maybe that's why a combined Army/Army Reserve/Army National Guard force of about 1,000,000 has struggled to keep a force averaging less than 150,000 in Iraq even with significant contributions from the also large US Marine Corps and US Marine Corps Reserve. Factor in also the countless tens of thousands of contractors doing the logistical and technical support work traditionally done by the services themselves. That's an awful lot of tail for very little tooth.
The troops, the nation and the taxpayers deserve better.
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Mar 17, 2009 2:56 AM
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"Instances of military outsourcing gone bad in Iraq are now legion. For example, Parsons Global Services Inc. of Pasadena, Calif., lost its contract to build 150 health centers after it completed just six centers and collected $190 million -- $30 million over the project's budget. The U.S. Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction is now reviewing all of Parsons' Iraq work. Officials at Parsons, which eventually completed an additional 13 centers, stand by their work, saying employees performed well under 'extremely volatile conditions.'
"It's difficult to put an accurate price tag on contractor fraud in Iraq, however. The Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, reported earlier this month that the Defense Dept. has recovered about $2 billion since 2001 from all outside contractors and government procurement officials accused of dishonesty or mismanagement, but the GAO didn't isolate those working in Iraq...
"The losses to fraud and waste in Iraq are almost certainly in the billions, current and former government officials agree. The Special IG for Iraq Reconstruction says it has more than 80 open investigations and has referred 20 more cases to the Justice Dept. for prosecution. A spokesman for the criminal investigative arm of the Defense Dept. says that office expects a "rise in referrals of potential fraud or corruption cases" because of the recent deployment to Iraq of additional Pentagon investigators and FBI agents.
Democrats on the House Government Reform Committee have identified more than 50 "problem" contracts worth an estimated $21.3 billion that they say are under scrutiny by federal investigators. And that's just what has been publicly disclosed: Federal officials won't discuss other pending investigations because of secrecy insulating some of the contracts and most of the inquiries. All told, the Defense Dept. has spent more than $365 billion on the Iraq war and the global fight against terror since late 2002. Roughly $60 billion, or 16%, of the total has been paid to contractors for services, according to the Congressional Research Service."
When Outsourcing Turns Outrageous
"The urge to privatize soon expanded to include anything and everything, up to and including hiring former Green Berets and Navy SEALs for serious security and training functions.
The 'privatize first, ask questions later' mentality has led to the situation we face now in Iraq, where private companies are performing front-line military functions ranging from providing security to the Coalition Provisional Authority (Blackwater) to training the new Iraqi army (Vinnell) to protecting oil pipelines (Erinys) to interrogating prisoners (CACI). "
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20040607/hartung
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Posted by: PaulK on Mar 17, 2009 6:32 AM
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I say *soon* because the house of cards is already unstable, waiting for the wind gust or the vibration to start falling. What if *soon* was two years ago?
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Posted by: Thomas O. Anderson on Mar 17, 2009 7:14 AM
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The Obama Deception is all but REAL.
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Posted by: jwverez on Mar 17, 2009 8:25 AM
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I've also noticed that most non-military-related companies are always under the knife while defense-related and those who secretly support the military industrial complex are "rewarded". I have also noticed that those who bring up issues about people bragging about their friends and/or loved ones serving get pelted at. Maybe that's where we need to show some tolerance. I do have reservations about people who call us for serving "criminals" but can understand. What needs to happen though is that people who make a big deal about their friends and/or loved ones serving need to realize that they're indirectly supporting the MIC by thinking of their serving ones only on the basis that they're serving when most of them could perhaps be productive and truly serve the country with the rest non-military wise. Sorry if I sound a bit too confusing.
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Posted by: Defenestrator on Mar 17, 2009 9:00 AM
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"One of the oldest ploys in the budget wars is to cut a program you absolutely, positively know Congress will fund no matter what you do. You move money from that program to one you know is on shakier ground. Then, when Congress funds both programs you can protest that it’s something you really don’t need and is pulling money from more deserving programs."
Until Obama takes a stand against the two most wasteful and disfunctional projects in the Pentagon, namely the F-22 and the F-35, I'm going to be skeptical that he's not just posturing, throwing the anti-war movement yet another rhetorical crumb.
I am glad that Obama said that he wants to “restore honesty, openness, and commonsense to Pentagon contracting and procurement.” I also remember that procurement process reform was one of Donald Rumsfeld's biggest goals: "It's the Pentagon bureaucracy, not the people, but the processes, not the civilians, but the systems, not the men and women in uniform, but the uniformity of thought and action that we too often impose on them.... we simply have to go after this bureaucracy and see that this institution adapts to the new circumstances that exist."
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Posted by: logansafi on Mar 17, 2009 10:22 AM
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'Obama to the Economic Rescue: Is He Picking the Best Team?'
What a dunce, and I'm being polite about it, too. Hope for CHANGE and yada yada yada. Lost in it all, is that Obama actually increased the War Budget, not decreasing it. Lost in all this nonsense is the continual threats of the Obama gang to start a war with Iran, too.
The type of pseudo-liberalism that Zaitchik represents is sick, destructive, and delusional. It's hardly putting pressure on Obama to do any good at all. That would take a real Antiwar Movement and not a fan club of the DP.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Mar 17, 2009 11:08 AM
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Could it be that the imperial ambitions (in other nations) of the "CORPORATE BUSINESS" (OIL)minority which have been kept from the public for reasons of NATIONAL SECURITY" are leading the charge?!
Could it be that because of those very ambitions and the greasing of political campaigns along with those "jobs" provided by said industrial giants in various states - people are loath to want to dismantle said processes?!
And what ever happened to the boondoggle known as Star Wars - the never has worked to date - yet we've spend billions on it weapons system that we really don't need!
As America already has enough nuclear armory to destroy the world a few times over, why do we try to convince ourselves that we need more? Let us take that F-22 Raptor - it cannot be flown in the rain! It has not been used in either Iraq or Afghanistan because it will not work in the desert! It can not be used under so many more conditions - so we must ask - why are we paying for it?!
As of today there are almost 4300 dead service men/women just from Iraq alone! There are another 35,000 that have some type of injury - most returning vets will come back with some form of PTSD! My point is is that while we as a nation continue to allow our government to throw good money into waste, fraud, and abuse! It is time to cut corporate welfare! Maybe those "defense contractors" should use their brain and come up with avenues other than destruction, maybe a few "green" solutions that can be used to help solve some of our collective problems (thereby creating jobs), instead of sucking at the government teet as they have been doing for the last 40+ years!
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Posted by: chlamor on Mar 17, 2009 4:09 PM
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That does not include the billions in supplemental funds heading for the bogus terror wars Iraq-Afghanistan. Obama has promised even more than the Bushies were planning on spending for the continued death and destruction of the poor folks who sit in the way of US corporate profits.
What planet are you Obama supporters on where you could call anything Obama does "audacious" and in particular as relates to his militaristic doctrine and policy positions?
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Posted by: follow the money on Mar 17, 2009 5:11 PM
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via the web,
"US Contractor Admits Bribery for Jobs in Iraq"
truthout.org
"Weldon Case Recalls Ike's Warning: Corrupting Power of Military-Industrial Complex"
newamericamedia.com
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Posted by: dayahka on Mar 17, 2009 7:52 PM
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That someone is even willing to question the Pentagon's budget and procurement processes is a huge step, given that all presidents of the last fifty years or more have always made it a point to kiss the Pentagon's butt as often as possible. If even a slight bit of sanity results from Obama's project of reform here, he will have worked wonders.
However, just as we have found out that our financial system is insolvent and on the verge of collapse, so we are likely to find out that the Pentagon is just another bubble with vastly overrated capabilities and very few tangible and worthwhile assets. And as the problems of peak oil keep chipping away at energy availability for ships and cars, we may find that the greater part of the country's weapons are obsolete or unusable--just as a gun without a bullet is worthless, so a destroyer without energy is just a pile of metal.
So, reform may do some good, but the lack of energy may be the real Pentagon killer.
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Posted by: DrBrian on Mar 17, 2009 12:26 AM
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We can no longer afford global imperialism, beloved by politicians and academics.
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Mar 17, 2009 1:20 AM
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Why do we have 4 Air Forces? The USAF was created when the Army Air Corps was spun off after WWII, yet the Army still has aviation, along with the Navy and Marine Corps.
Why do we have duplicate military commands for transportation, communication, supply, intelligence, Military Police, Combat Engineering, Medical support, Finance & Accounting and Administration?
Why does the Army have divers and the Navy land warfare special ops soldiers (SEAL)? Why cant the Navy provide the divers the Army needs and let US Army Special Forces handle the special ops the Navy needs.
We need a much more unified, interoperable and interdependent military- maybe not fully unified like Canada, but significantly in that direction. We cannot afford fiefdoms anymore.
There are certainly hundreds of billions to be saved in weapons system development and procurement, but the very structure of the beast is the bastard child of 200 years of civil politics and inter-service political haggling.
Maybe that's why a combined Army/Army Reserve/Army National Guard force of about 1,000,000 has struggled to keep a force averaging less than 150,000 in Iraq even with significant contributions from the also large US Marine Corps and US Marine Corps Reserve. Factor in also the countless tens of thousands of contractors doing the logistical and technical support work traditionally done by the services themselves. That's an awful lot of tail for very little tooth.
The troops, the nation and the taxpayers deserve better.
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Posted by: kag123 on Mar 17, 2009 2:47 AM
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Mar 17, 2009 2:56 AM
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"Instances of military outsourcing gone bad in Iraq are now legion. For example, Parsons Global Services Inc. of Pasadena, Calif., lost its contract to build 150 health centers after it completed just six centers and collected $190 million -- $30 million over the project's budget. The U.S. Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction is now reviewing all of Parsons' Iraq work. Officials at Parsons, which eventually completed an additional 13 centers, stand by their work, saying employees performed well under 'extremely volatile conditions.'
"It's difficult to put an accurate price tag on contractor fraud in Iraq, however. The Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, reported earlier this month that the Defense Dept. has recovered about $2 billion since 2001 from all outside contractors and government procurement officials accused of dishonesty or mismanagement, but the GAO didn't isolate those working in Iraq...
"The losses to fraud and waste in Iraq are almost certainly in the billions, current and former government officials agree. The Special IG for Iraq Reconstruction says it has more than 80 open investigations and has referred 20 more cases to the Justice Dept. for prosecution. A spokesman for the criminal investigative arm of the Defense Dept. says that office expects a "rise in referrals of potential fraud or corruption cases" because of the recent deployment to Iraq of additional Pentagon investigators and FBI agents.
Democrats on the House Government Reform Committee have identified more than 50 "problem" contracts worth an estimated $21.3 billion that they say are under scrutiny by federal investigators. And that's just what has been publicly disclosed: Federal officials won't discuss other pending investigations because of secrecy insulating some of the contracts and most of the inquiries. All told, the Defense Dept. has spent more than $365 billion on the Iraq war and the global fight against terror since late 2002. Roughly $60 billion, or 16%, of the total has been paid to contractors for services, according to the Congressional Research Service."
When Outsourcing Turns Outrageous
"The urge to privatize soon expanded to include anything and everything, up to and including hiring former Green Berets and Navy SEALs for serious security and training functions.
The 'privatize first, ask questions later' mentality has led to the situation we face now in Iraq, where private companies are performing front-line military functions ranging from providing security to the Coalition Provisional Authority (Blackwater) to training the new Iraqi army (Vinnell) to protecting oil pipelines (Erinys) to interrogating prisoners (CACI). "
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20040607/hartung
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Posted by: PaulK on Mar 17, 2009 6:32 AM
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I say *soon* because the house of cards is already unstable, waiting for the wind gust or the vibration to start falling. What if *soon* was two years ago?
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Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS on Mar 17, 2009 7:06 AM
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Posted by: Thomas O. Anderson on Mar 17, 2009 7:14 AM
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The Obama Deception is all but REAL.
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Posted by: jwverez on Mar 17, 2009 8:25 AM
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I've also noticed that most non-military-related companies are always under the knife while defense-related and those who secretly support the military industrial complex are "rewarded". I have also noticed that those who bring up issues about people bragging about their friends and/or loved ones serving get pelted at. Maybe that's where we need to show some tolerance. I do have reservations about people who call us for serving "criminals" but can understand. What needs to happen though is that people who make a big deal about their friends and/or loved ones serving need to realize that they're indirectly supporting the MIC by thinking of their serving ones only on the basis that they're serving when most of them could perhaps be productive and truly serve the country with the rest non-military wise. Sorry if I sound a bit too confusing.
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Posted by: Defenestrator on Mar 17, 2009 9:00 AM
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"One of the oldest ploys in the budget wars is to cut a program you absolutely, positively know Congress will fund no matter what you do. You move money from that program to one you know is on shakier ground. Then, when Congress funds both programs you can protest that it’s something you really don’t need and is pulling money from more deserving programs."
Until Obama takes a stand against the two most wasteful and disfunctional projects in the Pentagon, namely the F-22 and the F-35, I'm going to be skeptical that he's not just posturing, throwing the anti-war movement yet another rhetorical crumb.
I am glad that Obama said that he wants to “restore honesty, openness, and commonsense to Pentagon contracting and procurement.” I also remember that procurement process reform was one of Donald Rumsfeld's biggest goals: "It's the Pentagon bureaucracy, not the people, but the processes, not the civilians, but the systems, not the men and women in uniform, but the uniformity of thought and action that we too often impose on them.... we simply have to go after this bureaucracy and see that this institution adapts to the new circumstances that exist."
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Posted by: billwald on Mar 17, 2009 10:02 AM
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Posted by: logansafi on Mar 17, 2009 10:22 AM
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'Obama to the Economic Rescue: Is He Picking the Best Team?'
What a dunce, and I'm being polite about it, too. Hope for CHANGE and yada yada yada. Lost in it all, is that Obama actually increased the War Budget, not decreasing it. Lost in all this nonsense is the continual threats of the Obama gang to start a war with Iran, too.
The type of pseudo-liberalism that Zaitchik represents is sick, destructive, and delusional. It's hardly putting pressure on Obama to do any good at all. That would take a real Antiwar Movement and not a fan club of the DP.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Mar 17, 2009 11:08 AM
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Could it be that the imperial ambitions (in other nations) of the "CORPORATE BUSINESS" (OIL)minority which have been kept from the public for reasons of NATIONAL SECURITY" are leading the charge?!
Could it be that because of those very ambitions and the greasing of political campaigns along with those "jobs" provided by said industrial giants in various states - people are loath to want to dismantle said processes?!
And what ever happened to the boondoggle known as Star Wars - the never has worked to date - yet we've spend billions on it weapons system that we really don't need!
As America already has enough nuclear armory to destroy the world a few times over, why do we try to convince ourselves that we need more? Let us take that F-22 Raptor - it cannot be flown in the rain! It has not been used in either Iraq or Afghanistan because it will not work in the desert! It can not be used under so many more conditions - so we must ask - why are we paying for it?!
As of today there are almost 4300 dead service men/women just from Iraq alone! There are another 35,000 that have some type of injury - most returning vets will come back with some form of PTSD! My point is is that while we as a nation continue to allow our government to throw good money into waste, fraud, and abuse! It is time to cut corporate welfare! Maybe those "defense contractors" should use their brain and come up with avenues other than destruction, maybe a few "green" solutions that can be used to help solve some of our collective problems (thereby creating jobs), instead of sucking at the government teet as they have been doing for the last 40+ years!
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Posted by: willymack on Mar 17, 2009 11:23 AM
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Posted by: Archie1954 on Mar 17, 2009 12:03 PM
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Posted by: CarlaWaters on Mar 17, 2009 2:36 PM
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Posted by: chlamor on Mar 17, 2009 4:09 PM
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That does not include the billions in supplemental funds heading for the bogus terror wars Iraq-Afghanistan. Obama has promised even more than the Bushies were planning on spending for the continued death and destruction of the poor folks who sit in the way of US corporate profits.
What planet are you Obama supporters on where you could call anything Obama does "audacious" and in particular as relates to his militaristic doctrine and policy positions?
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Posted by: follow the money on Mar 17, 2009 5:11 PM
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via the web,
"US Contractor Admits Bribery for Jobs in Iraq"
truthout.org
"Weldon Case Recalls Ike's Warning: Corrupting Power of Military-Industrial Complex"
newamericamedia.com
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Posted by: dayahka on Mar 17, 2009 7:52 PM
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That someone is even willing to question the Pentagon's budget and procurement processes is a huge step, given that all presidents of the last fifty years or more have always made it a point to kiss the Pentagon's butt as often as possible. If even a slight bit of sanity results from Obama's project of reform here, he will have worked wonders.
However, just as we have found out that our financial system is insolvent and on the verge of collapse, so we are likely to find out that the Pentagon is just another bubble with vastly overrated capabilities and very few tangible and worthwhile assets. And as the problems of peak oil keep chipping away at energy availability for ships and cars, we may find that the greater part of the country's weapons are obsolete or unusable--just as a gun without a bullet is worthless, so a destroyer without energy is just a pile of metal.
So, reform may do some good, but the lack of energy may be the real Pentagon killer.
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Posted by: johnsumner on Mar 18, 2009 11:59 AM
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Posted by: johnsumner on Mar 18, 2009 12:15 PM
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Posted by: Garvagh on Mar 18, 2009 4:20 PM
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