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10 Dirty Tricks Wall Street Con Artists Will Pull to Keep the Rip-offs Going
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Yes, America wants an economic recovery. A brand new bull. And nobody wants it more than Wall Street. It gets rich off bull markets. Yes, Warren Buffett may be buying, but the odds are against Wall Street now.
The financial sector's in the tank: Stocks are huge losers. Earnings stink. Bonuses are down. And if they ask for TARP money, CEO salaries get capped, there are no lavish conferences and you fly commercial -- very humbling for a big boss used to making a million bucks a week.
Still, Wall Street wants a new bull more than you do. Why? Bulls breed megapayoffs.
Yes, Wall Street's running a handicap race on a bad playing field, a rotten economy. Yes, the pressure's enormous. But if Wall Street wants to get its hands back in the magic cookie jar soon, it has no choice. It must get super-clever super-fast and jump-start a roaring new bull for the rest of America's 95 million investors, quickly. Get it? Wall Street must deliver a new bull market, fast and soon.
How? By hook or by crook. Whatever pragmatic or Machiavellian power plays work. Why? Wall Street's got huge incentives at the end of this rainbow: Citing Watson Wyatt, the Economist says money management is a golden goose, with $64 trillion managed by professionals at the peak of the last bull. Assuming Wall Street controlled a third for an average 2% fee, there's roughly $400 billion at stake.
So Wall Street's army of lobbyists will have to pull off some fancy tricks, many at odds with today's demands for "change" by the president and political reformers. But now's the time to act, with the new TARP rules and an $800 billion stimulus bonanza on the way.
Look beyond the bad news. Remember, Washington's run by 40,000 lobbyists not 537 elected politicians. I'm betting lobbyists will use the following tactics to neutralize activists and limit reforms. That way, behind the scenes Wall Street keeps control with its business-as-usual tactics, schemes, scams, hustles and wheeling and dealing. Here are the 10 "dirty tricks" Wall Street lobbyists likely will use to help jump-start a new bull market:
1. Gridlock helps the rich get richer
Sure, Wall Street bet on Obama and he won a big majority and mandate. But remember, Forbes 400 richest, CEOs and K-Street lobbyists as well as Wall Street insiders, all get richer when Washington's in gridlock. The GOP's stonewalling is already leading the way, so lobbyists start hedging bets, contributing to a partisan war and more gridlock. 2. No Glass-Steagall revival
From 1933 until 1999 the Glass-Steagall Act separated banking to avoid conflicts of interest: Investment banks are high-risk gamblers playing with other people's money, raising capital, trading, crafting merger deals and earning commissions. Commercial bankers have a fiduciary responsibility to conserve capital and minimize depositors' risk; they earn salaries. In 1999 Congress tore down that wall.
Citigroup merged the two, became a financial supermarket, and has since lost 90% of its stock value, contributing to the meltdown. Still, last year Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs became bank holding companies to engage in both businesses and get free TARP money. Reviving Glass-Steagall would hurt them, and delay a new bull.
3. Keep rating agencies 'official'
We know credit-rating agencies are Street puppets. They shield Wall Street from liability, and create an illusion of security for investors in a bull market. But they're paid by Wall Street to protect issuers, and totally failed to protect the investor. Writing in the Wall Street Journal, Michael Lewis and David Einhorn said: "The world is worse off for the existence of companies like Moody's and Standard & Poor's."
Ending the "official" role of rating agencies will prevent future meltdowns. Solution: Let investors or the public pay the bill. But Wall Street wants ratings as a shield in a bull, so they'll keep the agencies official.
4. Limit new derivative regulations, keep 'shadow banking' alive
Congress is holding hearings on regulating credit default swaps. That will impact the entire $683 trillion global "shadow banking system" for derivatives, enforcing transparency. True, CDS added to the meltdown by offering an illusion of insurance protection. But derivatives also generate hefty commissions in bull markets. So Wall Street lobbyists must minimize reforms and keep shadow banking alive and as much outside the jurisdiction of the Fed and Treasury as possible.
And don't worry about another meltdown. Once again, in good times, Wall Street wins. And in bad times, Main Street picks up the tab.
5. Offload toxic debt into a government-owned 'bad bank'
Yes, BusinessWeek is right, Bush's $350 billion "bailout is a bust," for the taxpayers, homeowners and local banks. But at least Wall Street got tons of cash and credit to stockpile for reserves, mergers, dividends, bonuses and other perks. Plus no transparency. What a deal.
Now it's crucial Wall Street keeps what it got, while cleaning up its balance sheets by dumping all the toxic trash into a government-owned "bad bank." Let the Treasury, Fed and taxpayers worry about recovering value, while Wall Street focuses on creating a new bull market that generates big salaries and bonuses again.
6. Support executive pay limits -- in public, anyway
Wall Street banks are cash cows for insiders. They get rich off huge client fees and commissions from Main Street investors. Goldman's boss got $54 million in 2006. The average compensation even in a crappy 2008 was better than a half million for insiders.
But the president shames insiders from the bully pulpit. Sen. Claire McCaskill calls insiders "idiots" and introduce a bill to limit executive pay. So Wall Street's lobbyists have their work cut out for them: Limit amounts, disclosures and enforcement, while launching a feel-good PR campaign showing a contrite face to Main Street -- at least till the smoke clears. The masses will forget once the new bull begins and the golden goose returns.
7. Create accounting standards loopholes
Forget all the campaign promises of ethical reform, transparency and sundry new executive orders attempting to erase Bush's footprint. America's new president has been creating loopholes that suggest a willingness to compromise, especially regarding lobbyists.
Equally important, accounting rules must be kept flexible, subject to interpretations favorable to business. The Washington Post reports that the International Accounting Standards Board recently bowed to political pressure, allowing Deutsche Bank to shift $32 billion in toxic assets so that a quarterly loss of $970 million magically became a $129 million profit. Wall Street should continue making campaign donations to politicians and keep alive this kind of "flexibility" enforcement behind the scenes.
8. No limitations on SEC hiring
One of Lewis and Einhorn's recommendations: "Close the revolving door between the SEC and Wall Street," or at least forbid staff from going to work on Wall Street for some period. Lobbyists will make sure this reform is DOA.
Lawyers take low paying SEC jobs knowing it's a combination graduate school, boot camp and executive search firm. Graduates get big bucks representing Wall Street before their old buddies at the SEC. And yes, staffers tend not to get too aggressive for fear of irritating possible future bosses.
But this is a Catch 22: Not only would Wall Street lose a steady supply of well-trained securities lawyers, but who'd want to work for the SEC?
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Posted by: PaulK on Feb 22, 2009 10:48 AM
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Posted by: PaulK on Feb 22, 2009 10:54 AM
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What this means for the economy is that no one can ever live in those millions of homes except illegal squatters, at least until the life insurance company (AIG, Hartford, probably yours too) is fully liquidated and the high-level employees are all fired.
This is a good reason for symbolic community squatting.
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Posted by: jreal on Feb 22, 2009 1:06 PM
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These people should be as smart or smarter than lobbyists and corporate execs anyways. So they should be paid at least a million dollars a year in my opinion. Maybe 5 million.
Funding could even go towards the vetting process. This would help ensure we secure the most honest candidate.
There would also be stricter time restraints for accepting positions after leaving the post or even before accepting the post.
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Feb 22, 2009 1:29 PM
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Wish they'd all meet the same fate.
#@!
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Posted by: DanielleClarke on Feb 22, 2009 2:41 PM
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Remember bankers and investors NEVER CREATE A PRODUCT they SUCK from your money you invest.
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Feb 22, 2009 3:07 PM
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Who else would spend uncounted trillions (all told) to order the mass murder of a million people in Iraq over 1000 lies (and counting) for phony 9/11 "war on terror" and then steal trillions more at "Wall Street Bailouts" with people like GW Bush and sacred cow Obama pushing for both. Never mind a FISA spy state.
Nothing Orwell imagined was as crooked and blatantly corrupt as FASCISM, Anglo-American style. That said, this story is better than most for a list of Wall Street horrors. HOWEVER - a BIG exception for a few lines like this:
"So Wall Street lobbyists must minimize reforms and keep shadow banking alive and as much outside the jurisdiction of the Fed and Treasury as possible."
The "FED" for the private Ponzi trap "Federal Reserve" Corp (never federal, minus ZERO reserves) is the core of Organized Corporate Crime central. The "FED" prints money out of thin air debt and charges the nation interest on it. That's UNCONSTITUTIONAL - as in criminal. True to form, Sir "Bubbles" Greenspan (knighted for the City of London by the Queen of England) encouraged, aided and abetted the derivatives insanity with his successor Bernanke.
Control dirty money and you control all the rest. That is the dirtiest trick of all.
“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the government of the U.S. ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
President FDR (during the “Great Depression” on de facto Fascist rule in a letter to corporate monopoly charlatan “Colonel” Edward M. House, co-founder of the Council on Foreign Relations and political fixer for the ruling class. House also handled President Wilson. 11/21/ l933 from "F.D.R.: His Personal Letters”)
“The minority, the ruling class at present, has the schools and press, usually the Church as well, under its thumb. This enables it to organize and sway the emotions of the masses, and make its tool of them.”
Doctor Albert Einstein (letter to Sigmund Freud 7/30/1932. 1879-1955)
“We disapprove of slavery and the cost of the maintenance and upkeep of slaves. We prefer our English model in which we control the issuance of currency, and control of money, it allows us to control labor without the cost of maintaining it.”
Lord Baron Rothschild (private owner of the Bank of England. Quote 1849)
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value - zero."
"Those who can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
Voltaire (1694-1778)
If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency… the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered… The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of [private] lending institutions and moneyed incorporations.”
President Thomas Jefferson (letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin, 1802)
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Feb 22, 2009 3:51 PM
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"Don't tell your man what he don't do right
Nor tell him all the things that make you cry
But check yourself for your own shit
And don't be making out like it's all his
Take a look around the world
You see such bad things happening
There are many good men
Ask yourself is he one of them
The deadliest of sin is pride
Make you feel like you're always right
But they're always two sides
It takes two to make love, two to make a life
Take a look around the world
You see such mad things happening
There are few good men
Thank your lucky star that he's one of them"
Massive Attack - Special Cases
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Feb 22, 2009 4:07 PM
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In London we have the Underground
We have Trains
We have Trams
And we have Buses
A Car is completely unnecessary
London Buses are wonderful
Tony
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Feb 22, 2009 5:10 PM
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Heavenly Planet, Reading's brand new festival for 2009, today (Feb 20) announces its decision to make the festival a free of charge event, for all to attend and enjoy in its inaugural year.
The family-friendly festival takes place on Friday 10th and Saturday 11th July at The Thames Promenade, Reading, and hopes to attract up to 15,000 visitors.
The decision to make Heavenly Planet free further cements the ethos of the festival - bringing the community together to celebrate music and optimism. The recommendation for Heavenly Planet to be a free event will now be considered by Reading Borough Council's Cabinet members on 16 March.
Festival Republic, Thomas Brooman and Reading Borough Council - the three partners behind this new festival - believe that the decision for a free event in the first year will help to establish Heavenly Planet as a festival favourite and a staple part of Reading's culture for many years to come.
The aim is to provide a festival that everyone can enjoy, with inclusion for all at its heart, offering as many people as possible the opportunity to attend and experience what Heavenly Planet has to offer.
The Heavenly Planet Festival will be ticketless and open to all. Further details will be available in the run up to the festival. For further information and all the latest news, check out www.heavenlyplanetfestival.co.uk
Heavenly Planet is a fresh, diverse and dynamic festival, promoting optimism, global awareness and an open-minded enthusiasm for music, culture and society. With an area devoted to children and young families, words and communication, offering comedy, debate and radio drama, as well as food courts boasting food from around the world, the festival will aim to satisfy many tastes.
World-class artists will appear including Bassekou Kouyate & Ngoni Ba, Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain, The Wonder Stuff, Patrick Duff, Toto la Momposina and Chase & Status featuring Plan B & Takura. Beat*Reading will host the best in dance, drum 'n' bass, dub-step, UK hip-hop and live programming. The festival will continue to host a series of world class acts across the two days and further artists will be added to the bill.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Feb 22, 2009 6:01 PM
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However Kate Winslett serious deserves the Oscar
I reckon
10-1
Would be a fair result
Tony
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Feb 23, 2009 2:57 AM
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This would be to separate the wheat from the chaff, you understand. I love you all, but some of your ideas seem a bit wild and woolly--especialy the oines where the evil bankers have engineered their own collapse...and fooled everyone in the world but you. A resume would save some time.
PS: The Federal Reserve is not privately owned, no matter how many times they repeat it.
Myst
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» Public forfeiture of all assets, then life in an average prison.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Feb 23, 2009 8:03 AM
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NO! Wall Street's been running a Ponzi Scheme, and it has run its course. I' like to say that they've been caught, but no again: trillions of dollars of electronic money has simply vanished (to be turned into real money, yachts and houses through offshore banks like those in the Caymen Islands, I'm sure), but those $1,000-suited criminals responsible for the world's largest con are not going to be prosecuted – they, like the companies they work for or run, are "too big to fail." We aren't, so guess who's going to take it in the shorts – again?
Sharpen your pitchforks and light those torches; it's time we make our own "run" on Wall Street (and Washington).
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Feb 23, 2009 8:41 AM
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Granted Congress pushed for more leniency in lending- "0 Downs", but never forced the Lenders to adopt 'interst Only' or Bait & Switch Product lines. Nor did they make these Wall Street Criminals leverage out what meager capitol they actually possessed- 40 to 1.
Gramms Modernization Act was comparable to Unprotected Sex with an obviously infected AIDS patient. They can't control their communicabilty of their Disease, but we could avoid contracting it- with protection or rejection. Gramm & the Repugs not only poked a whole in the Profilactic, they ripped it off and began Raping every Citizen they could get their hands on.Willfully endangering US all-pure Malice.
In fact their logic seems to be following that of men in Africa- if they fuck a virgin, theri disease will disappear. Now they want US to Nationalize the Banks to sanatize their crimes, sothey can go back to Screwing liberally.
If Repugs think we are buying their Double standard of 'let homebuyers lie in the beds they've made', but clean up the wet spot Wall street has spewed as 'Free Market' ideology they are far stupidier than I thought.Let the Banks go belly up, along with all the Loans they have used as a means of Racketeering and extortion.
think about it, if these people who were Conned into these loan shark products could keep their homes,at no cost.Thus stopping the downward spiral of home prices due to foreclosures. If the people paying exorbinant Interest rates on Credit cards were all given a pass on their balances..How much money would be available to buy products, thus increasing production and Jobs and in turn bringing down the Deficit though larger numbers returning to the Taxable revenue base.
So let them die and with them all the loans they have issued through Unethical business practices.Now that's some fiscal Responsiblity the proponents of 'Survial of the Fittest'Free marketeers should Live up to.
It pisses me off everytime I open my Citibank or AIG billing statments, not only will I (and my daugher) have topay for their bailout, they are demanding I continue to pay them at astromical rates.Double dipping.For what so they can buy another dying company's Shit assets or dispense Million dollar bonuses again this year?
Business have Never been the back bone of our economy- it has been the People who make the products and Buy the products.Corps are nothing more than the middle men skimming off the transactional process
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Feb 23, 2009 8:48 AM
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What is so angering is that, at base, ALL of the assets with which Wall Street is playing Monopoly Grande came from the bending of our backs and the sweat of our brows. As Abraham Lincoln once pointed out:
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."
So obvious, so true, and for decades now, so ignored.
We have let these Wall Street (and Washington) parasites con us into believing that, in the economy, it is they who are most important, all the while brazenly sucking the life blood out of those who actually create the wealth, workers, who have given so much but who are so quickly derided and ignored by "The Masters of the Universe."
If this situation is not reversed and sanity not returned to our economic system, we are, quite simply, doomed. Wall Street, filthy-rich investors, and their Washington enablers are starving the millions upon millions of workers without which Wall Street would not even exist. I don't know how we'll change the situation, but we must; no organism, or society, can continue to exist if it is being eaten alive by parasites.
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Posted by: DaBear on Feb 23, 2009 10:07 AM
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1789.
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Posted by: pfm on Feb 23, 2009 10:50 AM
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When “we” with absolute resolve choose to stand squarely on our own two feet and with undeniable clarity demand and accept nothing less than full open disclosure in a heart beat this sham will cease. But it requires that first we act – individually and collectively – means we need to get off our butts.
Respectfully,
Paul F. Miller
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Posted by: zrants on Feb 23, 2009 2:31 PM
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And... one of my pet beefs, it should be illegal to send out unwanted, unrequested blank checks. This is one piece of junk mail I particularly resent, and it opens the door to major identity fraud and mail theft. Banks and institutions I have no account with, and do not trust are sending these out all the time. People are easily confused by the tactics.
You may no be able to control junk email because you don't know where it comes from, but this is not true of junk snail mail. Those envelopes have return addresses on them. I am looking for a class action law suit against these junk mailers who are sending out the blank checks. I want to join that fight.
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Posted by: using on Feb 23, 2009 9:53 PM
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So here is hoping you will do another article and answer our questions:
questions follow your format:
1. How can we reverse Glass-Steagall act?
We could start a PR campaign: "if a company is too big to fail...it is dangerous to our well being and therefore must be devided" ....."we did it before..it can do it again" campaign.
3. Wouldn't real transparency make it possible for talented, knowledgable researchers to give more insightful truth based information?
4. If derivatives were exposed to the light of day..and made sense out of...and commissions were capped.....would that make a difference?
5. If Main Streeter's refuse to following the bull sh-t and buy into the gamble -- what would happen to the investment business?
Would this force investments firms out of the gambling style and into supporting healthy business that would benifit us? And if Government can insure bad morgage deals, why not business that would benifit us? That would bring an influx of money that was kept safe by hard working thought out people who tried to protect themselves from the house of cards, and only bought what they could afford.
6. wouldn't it help the sale of Newspapers and us who want to be informed, if investigative reporters would
inform us 1. who the lobbiest are 2. who they work for 3. what they are trying to accomplish 4. which government officials are trying to selling us out?
AFter all, not all members of the media have provided us with timely information that could have made saving us from this downward spiriling possible.
7. a. what loopholes specifically are you referring to?
b. Who is the INternational ACcounting STandard Board?
who elects them?
what authority do they have?
What rules do they work with?
How can we control injustice of rules set?
8. How to force the doors between SEC and Wall STreet closed?
How to make our government employees believe they owe an obligataion to the job they were hired to do for the tax payers....in exchange for their salary. Perhaps we have to look for job candidates who have a higher moral fiber than the common variety who march to the drum of "being willing to be corrupted".
Remember the good old days....when we believed that journalism was about fighting for human rights....about truth, about information we could trust?
I like your idea of a PR campaign during the dark days.....what would you like to expose or correct?...how about ......creating a pioneer sense of rebuilding our country.....a sense of community and ethics and the greater good.
How about making dishonesty and corruptness unattractive.....
How about exposing each upcoming hokus pokus act and the wizard behind it?
Well here's hoping you do not mind my imput and can provide us with more information and stimulation.
THanks
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Posted by: randy144r on Feb 24, 2009 11:40 AM
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IF WE COULD GET RID OF THOSE GREEDY PEOPLE ON WALL STREET AND IN THE BANKING SYSTEM I GUARNTEE THE COUNTRY WOULD BE BETTER OFF.
THE FED SPENT 1.2 TRILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR WON'T TELL US WHERE. THAT IS TOTALLY ILLEGAL AND IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL OUR MONEY SYSTEM GOES AGAINST OUR CONSTITUTION.
REMEMBER US WE THE PEOPLE WHOSE FUTURE IS AT STAKE HERE.
GET RID OF THE FED!!!!
RANDY M.
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Posted by: PaulK on Feb 22, 2009 10:54 AM
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What this means for the economy is that no one can ever live in those millions of homes except illegal squatters, at least until the life insurance company (AIG, Hartford, probably yours too) is fully liquidated and the high-level employees are all fired.
This is a good reason for symbolic community squatting.
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Posted by: jreal on Feb 22, 2009 1:06 PM
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These people should be as smart or smarter than lobbyists and corporate execs anyways. So they should be paid at least a million dollars a year in my opinion. Maybe 5 million.
Funding could even go towards the vetting process. This would help ensure we secure the most honest candidate.
There would also be stricter time restraints for accepting positions after leaving the post or even before accepting the post.
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Feb 22, 2009 1:29 PM
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Wish they'd all meet the same fate.
#@!
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Posted by: DanielleClarke on Feb 22, 2009 2:41 PM
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Remember bankers and investors NEVER CREATE A PRODUCT they SUCK from your money you invest.
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Feb 22, 2009 3:07 PM
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Who else would spend uncounted trillions (all told) to order the mass murder of a million people in Iraq over 1000 lies (and counting) for phony 9/11 "war on terror" and then steal trillions more at "Wall Street Bailouts" with people like GW Bush and sacred cow Obama pushing for both. Never mind a FISA spy state.
Nothing Orwell imagined was as crooked and blatantly corrupt as FASCISM, Anglo-American style. That said, this story is better than most for a list of Wall Street horrors. HOWEVER - a BIG exception for a few lines like this:
"So Wall Street lobbyists must minimize reforms and keep shadow banking alive and as much outside the jurisdiction of the Fed and Treasury as possible."
The "FED" for the private Ponzi trap "Federal Reserve" Corp (never federal, minus ZERO reserves) is the core of Organized Corporate Crime central. The "FED" prints money out of thin air debt and charges the nation interest on it. That's UNCONSTITUTIONAL - as in criminal. True to form, Sir "Bubbles" Greenspan (knighted for the City of London by the Queen of England) encouraged, aided and abetted the derivatives insanity with his successor Bernanke.
Control dirty money and you control all the rest. That is the dirtiest trick of all.
“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the government of the U.S. ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
President FDR (during the “Great Depression” on de facto Fascist rule in a letter to corporate monopoly charlatan “Colonel” Edward M. House, co-founder of the Council on Foreign Relations and political fixer for the ruling class. House also handled President Wilson. 11/21/ l933 from "F.D.R.: His Personal Letters”)
“The minority, the ruling class at present, has the schools and press, usually the Church as well, under its thumb. This enables it to organize and sway the emotions of the masses, and make its tool of them.”
Doctor Albert Einstein (letter to Sigmund Freud 7/30/1932. 1879-1955)
“We disapprove of slavery and the cost of the maintenance and upkeep of slaves. We prefer our English model in which we control the issuance of currency, and control of money, it allows us to control labor without the cost of maintaining it.”
Lord Baron Rothschild (private owner of the Bank of England. Quote 1849)
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value - zero."
"Those who can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
Voltaire (1694-1778)
If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency… the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered… The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of [private] lending institutions and moneyed incorporations.”
President Thomas Jefferson (letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin, 1802)
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Feb 22, 2009 3:51 PM
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"Don't tell your man what he don't do right
Nor tell him all the things that make you cry
But check yourself for your own shit
And don't be making out like it's all his
Take a look around the world
You see such bad things happening
There are many good men
Ask yourself is he one of them
The deadliest of sin is pride
Make you feel like you're always right
But they're always two sides
It takes two to make love, two to make a life
Take a look around the world
You see such mad things happening
There are few good men
Thank your lucky star that he's one of them"
Massive Attack - Special Cases
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Feb 22, 2009 4:07 PM
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In London we have the Underground
We have Trains
We have Trams
And we have Buses
A Car is completely unnecessary
London Buses are wonderful
Tony
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Feb 22, 2009 5:10 PM
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Heavenly Planet, Reading's brand new festival for 2009, today (Feb 20) announces its decision to make the festival a free of charge event, for all to attend and enjoy in its inaugural year.
The family-friendly festival takes place on Friday 10th and Saturday 11th July at The Thames Promenade, Reading, and hopes to attract up to 15,000 visitors.
The decision to make Heavenly Planet free further cements the ethos of the festival - bringing the community together to celebrate music and optimism. The recommendation for Heavenly Planet to be a free event will now be considered by Reading Borough Council's Cabinet members on 16 March.
Festival Republic, Thomas Brooman and Reading Borough Council - the three partners behind this new festival - believe that the decision for a free event in the first year will help to establish Heavenly Planet as a festival favourite and a staple part of Reading's culture for many years to come.
The aim is to provide a festival that everyone can enjoy, with inclusion for all at its heart, offering as many people as possible the opportunity to attend and experience what Heavenly Planet has to offer.
The Heavenly Planet Festival will be ticketless and open to all. Further details will be available in the run up to the festival. For further information and all the latest news, check out www.heavenlyplanetfestival.co.uk
Heavenly Planet is a fresh, diverse and dynamic festival, promoting optimism, global awareness and an open-minded enthusiasm for music, culture and society. With an area devoted to children and young families, words and communication, offering comedy, debate and radio drama, as well as food courts boasting food from around the world, the festival will aim to satisfy many tastes.
World-class artists will appear including Bassekou Kouyate & Ngoni Ba, Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain, The Wonder Stuff, Patrick Duff, Toto la Momposina and Chase & Status featuring Plan B & Takura. Beat*Reading will host the best in dance, drum 'n' bass, dub-step, UK hip-hop and live programming. The festival will continue to host a series of world class acts across the two days and further artists will be added to the bill.
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However Kate Winslett serious deserves the Oscar
I reckon
10-1
Would be a fair result
Tony
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Feb 23, 2009 2:57 AM
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This would be to separate the wheat from the chaff, you understand. I love you all, but some of your ideas seem a bit wild and woolly--especialy the oines where the evil bankers have engineered their own collapse...and fooled everyone in the world but you. A resume would save some time.
PS: The Federal Reserve is not privately owned, no matter how many times they repeat it.
Myst
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» Public forfeiture of all assets, then life in an average prison.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Feb 23, 2009 8:03 AM
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NO! Wall Street's been running a Ponzi Scheme, and it has run its course. I' like to say that they've been caught, but no again: trillions of dollars of electronic money has simply vanished (to be turned into real money, yachts and houses through offshore banks like those in the Caymen Islands, I'm sure), but those $1,000-suited criminals responsible for the world's largest con are not going to be prosecuted – they, like the companies they work for or run, are "too big to fail." We aren't, so guess who's going to take it in the shorts – again?
Sharpen your pitchforks and light those torches; it's time we make our own "run" on Wall Street (and Washington).
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Feb 23, 2009 8:41 AM
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Granted Congress pushed for more leniency in lending- "0 Downs", but never forced the Lenders to adopt 'interst Only' or Bait & Switch Product lines. Nor did they make these Wall Street Criminals leverage out what meager capitol they actually possessed- 40 to 1.
Gramms Modernization Act was comparable to Unprotected Sex with an obviously infected AIDS patient. They can't control their communicabilty of their Disease, but we could avoid contracting it- with protection or rejection. Gramm & the Repugs not only poked a whole in the Profilactic, they ripped it off and began Raping every Citizen they could get their hands on.Willfully endangering US all-pure Malice.
In fact their logic seems to be following that of men in Africa- if they fuck a virgin, theri disease will disappear. Now they want US to Nationalize the Banks to sanatize their crimes, sothey can go back to Screwing liberally.
If Repugs think we are buying their Double standard of 'let homebuyers lie in the beds they've made', but clean up the wet spot Wall street has spewed as 'Free Market' ideology they are far stupidier than I thought.Let the Banks go belly up, along with all the Loans they have used as a means of Racketeering and extortion.
think about it, if these people who were Conned into these loan shark products could keep their homes,at no cost.Thus stopping the downward spiral of home prices due to foreclosures. If the people paying exorbinant Interest rates on Credit cards were all given a pass on their balances..How much money would be available to buy products, thus increasing production and Jobs and in turn bringing down the Deficit though larger numbers returning to the Taxable revenue base.
So let them die and with them all the loans they have issued through Unethical business practices.Now that's some fiscal Responsiblity the proponents of 'Survial of the Fittest'Free marketeers should Live up to.
It pisses me off everytime I open my Citibank or AIG billing statments, not only will I (and my daugher) have topay for their bailout, they are demanding I continue to pay them at astromical rates.Double dipping.For what so they can buy another dying company's Shit assets or dispense Million dollar bonuses again this year?
Business have Never been the back bone of our economy- it has been the People who make the products and Buy the products.Corps are nothing more than the middle men skimming off the transactional process
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Feb 23, 2009 8:48 AM
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What is so angering is that, at base, ALL of the assets with which Wall Street is playing Monopoly Grande came from the bending of our backs and the sweat of our brows. As Abraham Lincoln once pointed out:
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."
So obvious, so true, and for decades now, so ignored.
We have let these Wall Street (and Washington) parasites con us into believing that, in the economy, it is they who are most important, all the while brazenly sucking the life blood out of those who actually create the wealth, workers, who have given so much but who are so quickly derided and ignored by "The Masters of the Universe."
If this situation is not reversed and sanity not returned to our economic system, we are, quite simply, doomed. Wall Street, filthy-rich investors, and their Washington enablers are starving the millions upon millions of workers without which Wall Street would not even exist. I don't know how we'll change the situation, but we must; no organism, or society, can continue to exist if it is being eaten alive by parasites.
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Posted by: DaBear on Feb 23, 2009 10:07 AM
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1789.
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Posted by: pfm on Feb 23, 2009 10:50 AM
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When “we” with absolute resolve choose to stand squarely on our own two feet and with undeniable clarity demand and accept nothing less than full open disclosure in a heart beat this sham will cease. But it requires that first we act – individually and collectively – means we need to get off our butts.
Respectfully,
Paul F. Miller
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Posted by: zrants on Feb 23, 2009 2:31 PM
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And... one of my pet beefs, it should be illegal to send out unwanted, unrequested blank checks. This is one piece of junk mail I particularly resent, and it opens the door to major identity fraud and mail theft. Banks and institutions I have no account with, and do not trust are sending these out all the time. People are easily confused by the tactics.
You may no be able to control junk email because you don't know where it comes from, but this is not true of junk snail mail. Those envelopes have return addresses on them. I am looking for a class action law suit against these junk mailers who are sending out the blank checks. I want to join that fight.
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Posted by: using on Feb 23, 2009 9:53 PM
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So here is hoping you will do another article and answer our questions:
questions follow your format:
1. How can we reverse Glass-Steagall act?
We could start a PR campaign: "if a company is too big to fail...it is dangerous to our well being and therefore must be devided" ....."we did it before..it can do it again" campaign.
3. Wouldn't real transparency make it possible for talented, knowledgable researchers to give more insightful truth based information?
4. If derivatives were exposed to the light of day..and made sense out of...and commissions were capped.....would that make a difference?
5. If Main Streeter's refuse to following the bull sh-t and buy into the gamble -- what would happen to the investment business?
Would this force investments firms out of the gambling style and into supporting healthy business that would benifit us? And if Government can insure bad morgage deals, why not business that would benifit us? That would bring an influx of money that was kept safe by hard working thought out people who tried to protect themselves from the house of cards, and only bought what they could afford.
6. wouldn't it help the sale of Newspapers and us who want to be informed, if investigative reporters would
inform us 1. who the lobbiest are 2. who they work for 3. what they are trying to accomplish 4. which government officials are trying to selling us out?
AFter all, not all members of the media have provided us with timely information that could have made saving us from this downward spiriling possible.
7. a. what loopholes specifically are you referring to?
b. Who is the INternational ACcounting STandard Board?
who elects them?
what authority do they have?
What rules do they work with?
How can we control injustice of rules set?
8. How to force the doors between SEC and Wall STreet closed?
How to make our government employees believe they owe an obligataion to the job they were hired to do for the tax payers....in exchange for their salary. Perhaps we have to look for job candidates who have a higher moral fiber than the common variety who march to the drum of "being willing to be corrupted".
Remember the good old days....when we believed that journalism was about fighting for human rights....about truth, about information we could trust?
I like your idea of a PR campaign during the dark days.....what would you like to expose or correct?...how about ......creating a pioneer sense of rebuilding our country.....a sense of community and ethics and the greater good.
How about making dishonesty and corruptness unattractive.....
How about exposing each upcoming hokus pokus act and the wizard behind it?
Well here's hoping you do not mind my imput and can provide us with more information and stimulation.
THanks
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Posted by: randy144r on Feb 24, 2009 11:40 AM
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IF WE COULD GET RID OF THOSE GREEDY PEOPLE ON WALL STREET AND IN THE BANKING SYSTEM I GUARNTEE THE COUNTRY WOULD BE BETTER OFF.
THE FED SPENT 1.2 TRILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR WON'T TELL US WHERE. THAT IS TOTALLY ILLEGAL AND IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL OUR MONEY SYSTEM GOES AGAINST OUR CONSTITUTION.
REMEMBER US WE THE PEOPLE WHOSE FUTURE IS AT STAKE HERE.
GET RID OF THE FED!!!!
RANDY M.
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