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I'm an American Worker and I'm Tired of Getting Screwed
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I am an American worker, and you are damn right I want the wealth to be shared and spread. I am talking about the wealth my hard work helped to create, but was taken from me by George Bush's base, the very rich, or as I know them, my corporate bosses. For the past eight years I have watched W.'s and McCain's (Country Club First) base grab the largest share of our country's wealth. Where did they take it from? They took it from my family's pocketbook, and my co-workers' families' pocketbooks. They stole the wealth that I was trying to build for me and my family when they stripped my pension plan from me and told me to invest in a 401k. Then they stole most of that 401k and other workers' 401k savings with this economic meltdown. This was a massive transfer of wealth from the workers' pockets into the already stuffed pockets of the rich. My retirement savings and my coworkers' savings all across America have been looted by the corporate bosses, who just got bailed out while we got left out. Again!
The American worker, whether black, brown, white, red, yellow, or rainbow color, has been fleeced over these past eight years. We are the ones who go to work every day. We don't own our places of work, nor do we help manage them. We just go in and do the job. And we must be doing one hell of a good job because we are told that we are the most productive workers in the world. We are working longer and harder, but our paychecks keep shrinking! Where are those productivity gains going then? Not into our pockets. Our standard of living has been going down these past eight years ($2,000 less in family income since W. took office) This is another damn transfer of wealth into the hands of the extremely rich.
Their greed is insatiable. Take our family's health care. They do. They keep passing on their increased costs to us, or they just drop coverage for the worker completely. That means we either join the 50,000,000 who have no health care, or we end up having to buy it privately, thus eating up a huge portion of our family's income. If we manage to hang onto our health care plans, our deductibles, co-pays, and out-of-pay contributions keep skyrocketing. This amounts to another massive transfer of wealth from our pockets into the overflowing pockets of our corporate bosses.
The list goes on for the American worker. We saw overtime pay stripped from millions of workers during this past nightmare eight years. The worker was still working overtime, but due to a new "boss law" passed by W. and McCain's party that assists these thieves, the workers didn't receive overtime pay because they were declared exempt. They also weakened the workers' health and safety standards or just plain didn't enforce the laws already on the books. As a result, the American worker pays the price in lost days due to accidents from unsafe conditions or from lingering, expensive illnesses suffered from unhealthy working conditions. This too is a massive transfer of wealth from our pockets into our corporate bosses' bulging pockets.
To further sweeten their own pots, they took full-time jobs and converted them to part-time with no benefits, or they just made their employees line up and reapply for their exact same jobs at half the pay. Are we beginning to see what a true transfer of wealth looks like? So, do I want to see a spreading of the wealth? You bet your sweet hind-end I do. But all I ask of Obama is to give me and my co-workers the ability to retrieve some of the wealth that has been stolen from us.
Strengthen the laws that give workers the right to organize and bargain for a contract with our bosses. The current laws on the books have been torn to shreds by W. and McCain on behalf of their base. This is just part of their attack on American workers. Under globalization, the bosses seek a much cheaper workforce, which always means non-union, which means "can't fight back." That is why they have gutted the laws that protect workers. The laws that once gave us a level playing field with our bosses have been rendered useless, including our legal right to strike. That law said I had a right to strike, and could.
The American worker doesn't want a handout. Never did. We do want a hand up from our government. We still believe and have hope that this is a government of, by and for the people. We do want to know that our government will finally stand with us against this onslaught, this Robin Hood in reverse, being conducted by the bosses against the workers. The bosses know that W. and McCain have been on their side for the past eight years - and so do we workers. We just want our government to now stand on our side as we stand up against this corporate attempt to create third world working conditions right here in America. Restore our right to fight for a better living for ourselves and our families, and let the power of pissed-off workers, united in struggle, spread corporate America's stolen wealth back into the pockets of those whose pockets got picked these last eight years - the American worker.
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Posted by: SekhmetsatRa on Nov 22, 2008 2:05 AM
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Posted by: Beck on Nov 22, 2008 5:47 AM
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The filthy rich of America appreciate you doing their arguing for them very, very much.
And by "meaningless", I refer to the fact that if you knocked not just a million but a few million from CEO's salary, benefits, etc., they wouldn't experience any change in luxury whatsoever. They wouldn't have to sell any houses or cars or take their kids out of Harvard. Yeah, send the few to prison who are caught hiring any worker illegally, or breaking any employment laws. Then check out the rest of the picture.
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» RE: Start by putting people who use illegal labor in prison. Okay, then explain the rest.
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Posted by: AndyF on Nov 22, 2008 5:54 AM
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So with your idea that I should go to jail if I hire an illegal, I have a few choices: don't hire anyone who looks or sounds the least bit different; follow the law and roll the dice, because I will still be on the hook even if I didn't get a no match letter and I will also be on the hook for discrimination if I turn someone down because I got a no match letter; or go outside the system and hire off the books or do a work-around to get the employees classified as independent contractors and 1099 them.
How about instead having a more rational, calibrated, intelligent response which recognizes the need for immigration reform and recognizes that in many cases immigrants possess skills which are unique or in short supply in the domestic market. We should definitely enforce existing laws and hold managers and owners responsible if their violations are intentional, especially if the objective is to drive down compensation.
Regarding your comment about Microsoft, have you ever looked at who studies computer science in the US? I'll give you a hint - mainly the people you are complaining about. If more US students were willing to suck it up and complete technical undergraduate programs the justification for expanding the H1B programs would go away.
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Posted by: BlueGorilla on Nov 22, 2008 12:37 PM
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One "Fox News,Order of the Brown Nose" award (OBN),coming your way,for being such a good slave and pawn.Thats all you are going to get.
Keep on a kickin,and bullying the poor,you are playing a vital role,in helping the undeserving parasites keeping the billions they have looted.
Stick with the rich..as you obviously like being a weak bully.
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Posted by: eeezzz on Nov 22, 2008 1:11 PM
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Posted by: Ethical1 on Nov 24, 2008 7:21 AM
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Employers perpetuate the myth that there are no qualified American workers by posting job opportunities that require an experience composit no one can match. They systematically interview a pool of applicants only to diqualify them because they don't have the requisite 2+ years experience in Oracle 11i (only introduced a little over a year ago, so who could have 2+ years experience in it?) so they can complete the required paperwork to use an H1B applicant.
There are HR consulting companies out there teaching companies how to do this!
I've been training professionals to combat this problem by performing online research at LinkedIn.com to find out who ended up in the open position to see if this illegal practice was done to them and to take legal action. Against the law is against the law no matter how sneaky it is performed. The net is too transparent for this kind of baloney to continue.
IF THE GOVERNMENT WON'T PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO WORK FROM CORPORATIONS, THEN YOU MUST DO SO YOURSELF. Just like every other issue we citizens are working to resolve without assistance from our government.
Pretend you have no government sponsorship and begin devising ways to right the wrongs in groups of grass-roots movements. Otherwise, nothing will improve. BO's picks for his cabinet indicate we are heading for pretty much the same old reaming with a softer, gentler feel, still, a reaming just the same.
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Posted by: Knot_Rich on Nov 25, 2008 11:10 AM
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A side note, now's the time to remember Circuit City. Remember, just a couple years ago, they were the chain that laid off all it's full time sales employees so it could replace them with cheaper employees, and the employees they laid off could reapply to come back to work at a cheaper pay. Now is the time to let them know what you think of businesses who treat their employees like that. If the working people don't stand together, it's only a matter of time before we all get the same treatment. Boycott Circuit City.
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Posted by: US Citizen 07 on Nov 22, 2008 3:17 AM
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Actually, that is in a large part, of what created this mess. Corporate explotation of the world market for profit.
As long as companies have the privilage of building overseas and exploting the extreme poor for cheap labor, it will not change.
Now these people can not support their families on these wages, but it the only thing keep them from starvation, so they take it.
For example, when company X can go to China or other places and hire people who will work for $40 a week or less, work them 12 hours a day and NO benefits, why would they hire Americans for the same job.
The only way this extortion from big business will end is to either apply enough plenty to these companies to make overseas producting less appealing, or to help the contries organize and demand a living wage.
Unfortunately, they are less apt to do that as over in some of these places it could get you killed.
So, what do we do with this problem.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Nov 22, 2008 3:44 AM
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What makes even Less Sense is the fact the Congress is willing to give money to 'Retool', Yet not money to keep workers on to aid in the conversion or work the 'new' system.
What would bankruptcy accomplish....Screwing workers and Suppliers (small Business).
There i s a element in Congress which does not Support Americna Workers or Americna Small Business, ONLY Multinational Corps. Through their efforts these Corps have been allowed to ship our jobs 'overseas' (or south), stagnate wages, cut bennies and retirment packages. Thus effectively lowing American Worker standards and compensation to that of Thrid World Countries. Is America supposed to be the 'Beacon of Hope for Humanity' are We not the 'gold Standard' by which other people and countries assess their progress?
The Repugs LOVE to claim they are 'Free market' advocates...But what dispells this LIE is that they have intentionally strangled Free market Access to Individuals- workers and Small Business. The 'Free Market' idea was Developed ONLY For Citizens, Not Incs- esp not multinational Incs. 'Trickle Down' is innately a feudalistic Caste System- The EXACT Socio- economic Situation which our ancestors Fled. What Trickle Down has also aided is the attempt to barr most from accessing the Democratic Process to...Until Obama's campaign only Big donors determined Who could 'afford' to win a Pres (or any other) election. there has developed not only a vast chasm between the 'upper' and 'Lower' Economic stratas, but also the ability of the 'lowers' to gain a Voice or any influence over that which controls their daily lives.Again Exactly the same system our foreFathers left to build a Free Market Democracy....thus is this not Essentially TREASON?
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Posted by: smendler on Nov 22, 2008 4:15 AM
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Posted by: ahmlco on Nov 22, 2008 4:28 AM
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Sorry, but equally greedy unions interested primarily in perpetuating their own power are part of what got us into this mess. Do you realize that a FLOOR SWEEPER in a union auto plant is required to be paid $34 a hour? A FLOOR SWEEPER.
More wages. More breaks. More health care. More retirement benefits. Demand more, said the unions. You deserve more. You're ENTITLED to it. More, more, more. Did you know that $2,000 of the price of one of GM's SUVs goes solely to providing health care for RETIRED workers?
I notice that employees working in non-union US-based Honda and Toyota plants seem to be doing fairly well. What happened to Ford and GM?
Unions. Who've pretty much managed to kill the golden goose.
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» RE: Yeah, because that worked so well before...
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» Oh, the filthy rich love that they have lackies like you to argue their greedy case for them
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» Average UAW wages are $27/hr
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» Documentation please...
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» Most people don't have the bucks to have their own business
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» You pay the tax so hell yeah, you're entitled to it
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» RE: Yeah, that worked so well...I wonder why you're not bothered at CEOs saying "more, more. .
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Posted by: bitsfick on Nov 22, 2008 4:39 AM
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Posted by: Nightstallion on Nov 22, 2008 4:58 AM
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If we were Romans I would whole heartily agree with being in a Union, even Gladiators had them. But, this is fucking America not Rome and we wrote getting fucked by someone into the game at the very beginning. I believe in a days pay for a days work, if some Caesar wants his taxes let him show up and pry them from my hand himself.
For me I stopped dealing in cash before many of you were born I use barter or work for "things", services, and food. "No tickee no laundly!"
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Nov 22, 2008 5:13 AM
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Secondly, it wasn't exactly stolen, but politely--and often enthusiastically--handed over by US voters--including working folks--since Reagan.
It's beyond cliche to say the enemy is us, but apparently there are those who still don't get it. If you vote out that tiny elite which took all of your money, another will be along to replace it before you can blink, so long as there are suckers who fall for the same crap every time. If you're tired of getting screwed, go slap some sense into your next door neighbor, who also drives a beer truck, but who thinks the blacks, the gays, migrant workers, and blue-state intellectuals are the root of all evil.
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Posted by: maryyooch on Nov 22, 2008 7:09 AM
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I have severe hearing loss, the boss would totally humiliate me if he had to speak up. Also, I was doing the job of FOUR seperate people. Thats how my back got destroyed.
I tried to settle with them through an Atty. But, alas, you have to go to their MD. He did not give me an injury rating. When I finally went to an independant MD, it was found that I have nerve damage. But, because you have to go to their CORPORATE MD, who works for the CORPORATION, I got screwed out of any kind of compensation. Now I cannot sit for more than an hour, bend over at all, and need a cane most of the time just to walk. Thanks Bush and McCain! Oh yea, they finally threw me a bread crumb and extended my $169/wk unemployment.
By thr way, the boss and son who took away my livelyhood, quit their jobs a month later.
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Posted by: alicelillie on Nov 22, 2008 8:04 AM
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I just got sick this morning hearing Bush at APEC talking the free market talk...
Most likely the left got sick too. But in my case it is because he never walked the walk.
I really believe that the left and the libertarians (as exemplified by Ron Paul) are really on the same page with these "bailouts."
The little guy is left out! The little guy, the hard working taxpayer, does not want a handout. What he or she wants, from what I hear, is to be able to keep his hard-earned money.
Obama is promising a tax cut for the middle class. I hope that happens, but I will believe it when I see it. I want to see *no* tax hike for the rich either, but what I want to see is for government to stay out of the way and not either take or give.
The writer said that the working person wanted to "distribute the wealth." If he or she is able to keep their earnings, then he can spend, save or distribute them the way he wants. It is good to give to the needy, to food banks and churches. But one cannot give what the government taxes away for wars and fat-cat bailouts.
Please see my blog that discusses economic issues by reviewing the works of Murray Rothbard.
http://www.alicelillieandher.blogspot.com
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Posted by: eeezzz on Nov 22, 2008 8:43 AM
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There are a million problems out there to be creatively dealt with and solved, but the American worker wants someone else to set up all of the solutions and allow the American worker to continue being an oblivious, spoon-fed, well paid, well taken care of, fat and happy, cog in the machine. Well, the machine is completely broken. There are literally billions of people all over the world that can do your job without all of the hassle.
The world has changed, and unless you want to continue being so 'taken advantage of' you need to change too.
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» RE: If your not part of the solution...there is a good reason your a "wage slave."
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» Huh? The American worker forms unions if they can. THAT's how they deal with the cut-throat . . .
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» LOL-yeah,unions demanding more and more can compete with overseas labor, suurree...
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Posted by: Openeyes on Nov 22, 2008 9:02 AM
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Posted by: billwald on Nov 22, 2008 9:31 AM
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Our typical com col "educated" middle class worker is to arrogant to join a union. He doesn't need a union. Middle class com col "educated" working class people are all better than average. 80% of all Americans think they are better than average. Even those making 10 bucks an hour.
11/22 Everett Herald had a story about the low price of gas. Gas station owner was quoted as saying that since the price of gas dropped, ciggy butt and drink sales have increased. Anyone who cares about the price of gas can't afford to buy drinks and ciggy butts at a convenience store. Anyone who does - I should feel sorry for you?
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Posted by: harpy on Nov 22, 2008 9:41 AM
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Why is the mindset so backward when it comes to taking care of Americans? America First shouldn't be a campaign slogan - it should be policy! Our tax dollars should be used for the people and infrastructure of America. We don't have a choice about paying them and the money should come back to us!!
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Posted by: Sojourner on Nov 22, 2008 12:29 PM
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If workers think they can do a better job, then they ought to elect politicians who will let them try. "Too big to fail" no longer excuses socialism for private profit.
As with some of the other comments on this thread, however, it is not clear that the American worker wants anything except the role of dependent whiner. Blame the boss is a fraudulent as blame the union.
I am an American citizen/consumer and I am tired of being caught between labor and management. Nationalize, nationalize, nationalize. At least it would change the terms of the argument.
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Posted by: RedScare on Nov 22, 2008 12:30 PM
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But who am I to judge though? I'm just some idiot who realized that being a CPA would be better than being trapped in some factory complaining about low wages and crappy ass benefits. The partners at my firm earn well over 7 figures each year because of their ideas and their leadership. Sure, they have some off years but they've earned their money. Do I complain about my 90k per year while they go sailing in personal yachts off the Golden Coast each year? No. I'm a hard worker and not a whiner.
I realize that it is in the best interest of those who outsource these so-called "American" jobs to do so. The bottom line is profitability regardless of what business you're in. Not to make friends with the American people.
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» Wait a minute? Do the unions get "low wages" or are they ruining the country with their HIGH wages?
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» RE: Anyone ever hear of Ayn Rand? Why? And oh, of COURSE, a different job! They're everywhere.
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» Ha! Try to get hired at Taco Bell...
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» RE: Anyone ever hear of Ayn Rand? Why? And oh, of COURSE, a different job! They're everywhere.
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» "You People?"
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Posted by: halg on Nov 22, 2008 2:55 PM
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Promoting the general welfare means looking after the health of the citizens, seeing they are well fed and clothed, providing for them when they cannot find work, and yes, even paying them to stay home to raise children or to fund their college re-education for a new field. The wealth generated by millions of workers should be enjoyed by those workers, not hoarded by the wealthy to poor down their throats at $499 a bottle while the unemployed starve.
Workers are not supermen, nor should they be expected to be. If they are ignorant and make poor choices, then ask why their education was so poor. If they did not take advantage of their free educations, ask why they did not study harder and discover ways to help students study and learn more effectively. But don't blame them for not knowing what they don't already know. That is futile, and you look very silly trying.
Everything in this world is integrally linked together, so there is no point in trying to single out certain individuals or groups to blame. Let's use our collective brilliance and wisdom to develop new systems of economy and society that will better all of us. But don't abolish social welfare systems; they are essential to any sustainable systems we devise.
Promote the general welfare, ensure domestic tranquility, and be proud of it, America. Our founding fathers were!
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» general Welfare; fantastic. We should post the preamble everywhere, and recite IT. here it is.
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» RE: general Welfare; fantastic. We should post the preamble everywhere, and recite IT. here it is.
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Posted by: ahmlco on Nov 22, 2008 3:14 PM
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CHEAP unskilled labor.
The only thing most American labor has to its advantage is location: they're here in the US. They're not better educated, they're not harder workers, they don't have a better work ethic, they're simply here.
And that's no longer good enough.
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Posted by: joeocho88 on Nov 22, 2008 3:52 PM
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There were NO benefits like insurance and NO job security but IT WAS THE ONLY WORK I WAS ABLE TO FIND!
I next went into private security as a private security officer contracting service subcontractor and carried a firearm for twenty years ==doing EXACTLY the same stuff a small-town cop does and facing unbelievable HATRED and gender bias from male co-workers to the point to where after 20 years. I HAD ENOUGH!
(You are supposed to protect the accumulated riches of others with your life if necessary but are not paid enough and don't have enough free time to accumulate riches of your own --PLUS THERE IS NO RETIREMENT, NO HEALTH INSURANCE or "PERKS" as people know them here either.) I have known hundreds of people in Texas who have NEVER had a job with health insurance or benefits of any kind except what has been mandated by OSHA and Federal Wages and Hours and I was 30 years old before I found out about those! Did you know that your employer can take Social Security out of your check and KEEP it and that it is YOUR responsibility to insure that your employer is actually paying into YOUR Social Security account? I didn't until I checked into it and it was a security contracting company that was trying to keep my social security money!
You have to work overtime hours from hell to even begin to keep pace with the cost of living.
You are also treated like disposable,interchangeable GARBAGE with total disregard of how you perform your job. There are no job descriptions, no merit raises, no promotions, no seniority, no benefits.
Even worse, when you have been a Security officer more than a year or two, you will be AUTOMATICALLY GUARANTEED a BAD JOB REFERENCE (because they want to keep you in bondage, so to speak, people who can get a commission to carry a firearm for what they pay are RARE!) and NOBODY wants to hire you in another industry because of the stereotypes of the man with the pint of hootch in the Captain Kangaroo-style uniform jacket ASLEEP on duty OR they think that only a knuckle-dragger with a minus IQ can do the job.
AND THIS IS APPARENTLY HOW ALL AMERICAN EMPLOYERS WANT TO TREAT THEIR EMPLOYEES --IF THEY CAN'T ELIMINATE THEM THROUGH TECHNOLOGY!
We can't all be in the health professions...
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Posted by: puf_almighty on Nov 22, 2008 7:36 PM
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2. That these CEOs should be making millions of dollars, and talking about cutting labor costs? Look, even if you are burning only a fraction of your overhead in your CEO's pay, even if you are losing more money to the unions than you are to the CEO's, I don't care. Cut that evil bastard's pay to, hmm, say, a mere ten times my own, and then we'll talk about tightening some belts.
Unless you think he works ten times as hard as I do.
3. I'm working as an Americorps volunteer, around 55 hours a week making $1,200 a month, living in Austin, which is supposedly this hideously expensive city to live in. I'm making it just fine, because I keep my bills and expenses low. Granted, I don't have kids to raise. But I don't have house or car payments, because I have a bus pass and an apartment, and I don't have utility bills because I found a sweet "all bills paid" lease.
I've got two college degrees and have turned down far more lucrative jobs. I just don't understand why everyone's so run around by money all the time. You don't need that much. Sure, you can find a way to spend it all. But if you're smart, you won't.
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We own two Toyotas, one Honda, and one Chevy.
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Posted by: richholland on Nov 22, 2008 10:50 PM
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now you vote for the Democrated billionaires and they cannot help you. The only thing I fear for you is the creation of a third Party.
and start working less and live more.
read books how the scandinavian countries do their things and DONOT go with your army to foreign countries.
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Get ready for another 4 years of hell.
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Posted by: justacitizen on Nov 23, 2008 7:54 AM
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In 1965, a brand new car cost (on average) $2,500, a 1000 sq ft house cost $12,000 and the average wage was $6,000 per year. Fast forward to today, a new car (conservatively) costs 25,000, a 1000 sq ft house costs 135,000. Where is our average wage? about $22,500.
I ascert the fed policy of the last 30 + years is the key stone of the wage disparity in this country, and until that is changed, we will never make progress on wages.
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Posted by: nfamous on Nov 24, 2008 4:16 AM
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Americans as a whole cannot band together to solve anything. We have become dependent on government and completely divided. Few people want to hitch their wagon to anyone else's. We see our struggles as individual struggles because we have been socially engineered to do just that while we continue to deny the truth about what the elite do to our minds and bodies from behind the curtain. We are fools.
Corporations will continue to fleece Americans because Americans hate each other too much to unite against them. It will only get worse under Obama. Everything will be privatized including our water supply and we will beg the government for mercy within our lifetimes. This is what happens when the people are drugged up, hooked on consumerism and brainwashed from watching tv all the time. Who will change that? No one. Prepare for the end and it has nothing to do with religion.
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Odds are that he also played on the high school football team, skipped classes, and that he and his buddies thought education was a joke. And now believes that the unskilled uneducated "American Worker" is magically entitled to high wages and a decent living.
Sorry. Wrong. Thanks for playing.
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Odds are that he also played on the high school football team, skipped classes, and that he and his buddies thought education was a joke. And now believes that the unskilled uneducated "American Worker" is magically entitled to high wages and a decent living.
Sorry. Wrong. Thanks for playing.
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Posted by: Beck on Nov 22, 2008 5:47 AM
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The filthy rich of America appreciate you doing their arguing for them very, very much.
And by "meaningless", I refer to the fact that if you knocked not just a million but a few million from CEO's salary, benefits, etc., they wouldn't experience any change in luxury whatsoever. They wouldn't have to sell any houses or cars or take their kids out of Harvard. Yeah, send the few to prison who are caught hiring any worker illegally, or breaking any employment laws. Then check out the rest of the picture.
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Posted by: AndyF on Nov 22, 2008 5:54 AM
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So with your idea that I should go to jail if I hire an illegal, I have a few choices: don't hire anyone who looks or sounds the least bit different; follow the law and roll the dice, because I will still be on the hook even if I didn't get a no match letter and I will also be on the hook for discrimination if I turn someone down because I got a no match letter; or go outside the system and hire off the books or do a work-around to get the employees classified as independent contractors and 1099 them.
How about instead having a more rational, calibrated, intelligent response which recognizes the need for immigration reform and recognizes that in many cases immigrants possess skills which are unique or in short supply in the domestic market. We should definitely enforce existing laws and hold managers and owners responsible if their violations are intentional, especially if the objective is to drive down compensation.
Regarding your comment about Microsoft, have you ever looked at who studies computer science in the US? I'll give you a hint - mainly the people you are complaining about. If more US students were willing to suck it up and complete technical undergraduate programs the justification for expanding the H1B programs would go away.
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Posted by: BlueGorilla on Nov 22, 2008 12:37 PM
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One "Fox News,Order of the Brown Nose" award (OBN),coming your way,for being such a good slave and pawn.Thats all you are going to get.
Keep on a kickin,and bullying the poor,you are playing a vital role,in helping the undeserving parasites keeping the billions they have looted.
Stick with the rich..as you obviously like being a weak bully.
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Posted by: Ethical1 on Nov 24, 2008 7:21 AM
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Employers perpetuate the myth that there are no qualified American workers by posting job opportunities that require an experience composit no one can match. They systematically interview a pool of applicants only to diqualify them because they don't have the requisite 2+ years experience in Oracle 11i (only introduced a little over a year ago, so who could have 2+ years experience in it?) so they can complete the required paperwork to use an H1B applicant.
There are HR consulting companies out there teaching companies how to do this!
I've been training professionals to combat this problem by performing online research at LinkedIn.com to find out who ended up in the open position to see if this illegal practice was done to them and to take legal action. Against the law is against the law no matter how sneaky it is performed. The net is too transparent for this kind of baloney to continue.
IF THE GOVERNMENT WON'T PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO WORK FROM CORPORATIONS, THEN YOU MUST DO SO YOURSELF. Just like every other issue we citizens are working to resolve without assistance from our government.
Pretend you have no government sponsorship and begin devising ways to right the wrongs in groups of grass-roots movements. Otherwise, nothing will improve. BO's picks for his cabinet indicate we are heading for pretty much the same old reaming with a softer, gentler feel, still, a reaming just the same.
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Posted by: Knot_Rich on Nov 25, 2008 11:10 AM
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A side note, now's the time to remember Circuit City. Remember, just a couple years ago, they were the chain that laid off all it's full time sales employees so it could replace them with cheaper employees, and the employees they laid off could reapply to come back to work at a cheaper pay. Now is the time to let them know what you think of businesses who treat their employees like that. If the working people don't stand together, it's only a matter of time before we all get the same treatment. Boycott Circuit City.
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Posted by: US Citizen 07 on Nov 22, 2008 3:17 AM
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Actually, that is in a large part, of what created this mess. Corporate explotation of the world market for profit.
As long as companies have the privilage of building overseas and exploting the extreme poor for cheap labor, it will not change.
Now these people can not support their families on these wages, but it the only thing keep them from starvation, so they take it.
For example, when company X can go to China or other places and hire people who will work for $40 a week or less, work them 12 hours a day and NO benefits, why would they hire Americans for the same job.
The only way this extortion from big business will end is to either apply enough plenty to these companies to make overseas producting less appealing, or to help the contries organize and demand a living wage.
Unfortunately, they are less apt to do that as over in some of these places it could get you killed.
So, what do we do with this problem.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Nov 22, 2008 3:44 AM
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What makes even Less Sense is the fact the Congress is willing to give money to 'Retool', Yet not money to keep workers on to aid in the conversion or work the 'new' system.
What would bankruptcy accomplish....Screwing workers and Suppliers (small Business).
There i s a element in Congress which does not Support Americna Workers or Americna Small Business, ONLY Multinational Corps. Through their efforts these Corps have been allowed to ship our jobs 'overseas' (or south), stagnate wages, cut bennies and retirment packages. Thus effectively lowing American Worker standards and compensation to that of Thrid World Countries. Is America supposed to be the 'Beacon of Hope for Humanity' are We not the 'gold Standard' by which other people and countries assess their progress?
The Repugs LOVE to claim they are 'Free market' advocates...But what dispells this LIE is that they have intentionally strangled Free market Access to Individuals- workers and Small Business. The 'Free Market' idea was Developed ONLY For Citizens, Not Incs- esp not multinational Incs. 'Trickle Down' is innately a feudalistic Caste System- The EXACT Socio- economic Situation which our ancestors Fled. What Trickle Down has also aided is the attempt to barr most from accessing the Democratic Process to...Until Obama's campaign only Big donors determined Who could 'afford' to win a Pres (or any other) election. there has developed not only a vast chasm between the 'upper' and 'Lower' Economic stratas, but also the ability of the 'lowers' to gain a Voice or any influence over that which controls their daily lives.Again Exactly the same system our foreFathers left to build a Free Market Democracy....thus is this not Essentially TREASON?
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Posted by: ahmlco on Nov 22, 2008 4:28 AM
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Sorry, but equally greedy unions interested primarily in perpetuating their own power are part of what got us into this mess. Do you realize that a FLOOR SWEEPER in a union auto plant is required to be paid $34 a hour? A FLOOR SWEEPER.
More wages. More breaks. More health care. More retirement benefits. Demand more, said the unions. You deserve more. You're ENTITLED to it. More, more, more. Did you know that $2,000 of the price of one of GM's SUVs goes solely to providing health care for RETIRED workers?
I notice that employees working in non-union US-based Honda and Toyota plants seem to be doing fairly well. What happened to Ford and GM?
Unions. Who've pretty much managed to kill the golden goose.
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Posted by: Nightstallion on Nov 22, 2008 4:58 AM
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If we were Romans I would whole heartily agree with being in a Union, even Gladiators had them. But, this is fucking America not Rome and we wrote getting fucked by someone into the game at the very beginning. I believe in a days pay for a days work, if some Caesar wants his taxes let him show up and pry them from my hand himself.
For me I stopped dealing in cash before many of you were born I use barter or work for "things", services, and food. "No tickee no laundly!"
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Nov 22, 2008 5:13 AM
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Secondly, it wasn't exactly stolen, but politely--and often enthusiastically--handed over by US voters--including working folks--since Reagan.
It's beyond cliche to say the enemy is us, but apparently there are those who still don't get it. If you vote out that tiny elite which took all of your money, another will be along to replace it before you can blink, so long as there are suckers who fall for the same crap every time. If you're tired of getting screwed, go slap some sense into your next door neighbor, who also drives a beer truck, but who thinks the blacks, the gays, migrant workers, and blue-state intellectuals are the root of all evil.
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Posted by: maryyooch on Nov 22, 2008 7:09 AM
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I have severe hearing loss, the boss would totally humiliate me if he had to speak up. Also, I was doing the job of FOUR seperate people. Thats how my back got destroyed.
I tried to settle with them through an Atty. But, alas, you have to go to their MD. He did not give me an injury rating. When I finally went to an independant MD, it was found that I have nerve damage. But, because you have to go to their CORPORATE MD, who works for the CORPORATION, I got screwed out of any kind of compensation. Now I cannot sit for more than an hour, bend over at all, and need a cane most of the time just to walk. Thanks Bush and McCain! Oh yea, they finally threw me a bread crumb and extended my $169/wk unemployment.
By thr way, the boss and son who took away my livelyhood, quit their jobs a month later.
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Posted by: alicelillie on Nov 22, 2008 8:04 AM
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I just got sick this morning hearing Bush at APEC talking the free market talk...
Most likely the left got sick too. But in my case it is because he never walked the walk.
I really believe that the left and the libertarians (as exemplified by Ron Paul) are really on the same page with these "bailouts."
The little guy is left out! The little guy, the hard working taxpayer, does not want a handout. What he or she wants, from what I hear, is to be able to keep his hard-earned money.
Obama is promising a tax cut for the middle class. I hope that happens, but I will believe it when I see it. I want to see *no* tax hike for the rich either, but what I want to see is for government to stay out of the way and not either take or give.
The writer said that the working person wanted to "distribute the wealth." If he or she is able to keep their earnings, then he can spend, save or distribute them the way he wants. It is good to give to the needy, to food banks and churches. But one cannot give what the government taxes away for wars and fat-cat bailouts.
Please see my blog that discusses economic issues by reviewing the works of Murray Rothbard.
http://www.alicelillieandher.blogspot.com
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Posted by: eeezzz on Nov 22, 2008 8:43 AM
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There are a million problems out there to be creatively dealt with and solved, but the American worker wants someone else to set up all of the solutions and allow the American worker to continue being an oblivious, spoon-fed, well paid, well taken care of, fat and happy, cog in the machine. Well, the machine is completely broken. There are literally billions of people all over the world that can do your job without all of the hassle.
The world has changed, and unless you want to continue being so 'taken advantage of' you need to change too.
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Posted by: billwald on Nov 22, 2008 9:31 AM
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Our typical com col "educated" middle class worker is to arrogant to join a union. He doesn't need a union. Middle class com col "educated" working class people are all better than average. 80% of all Americans think they are better than average. Even those making 10 bucks an hour.
11/22 Everett Herald had a story about the low price of gas. Gas station owner was quoted as saying that since the price of gas dropped, ciggy butt and drink sales have increased. Anyone who cares about the price of gas can't afford to buy drinks and ciggy butts at a convenience store. Anyone who does - I should feel sorry for you?
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Posted by: harpy on Nov 22, 2008 9:41 AM
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Why is the mindset so backward when it comes to taking care of Americans? America First shouldn't be a campaign slogan - it should be policy! Our tax dollars should be used for the people and infrastructure of America. We don't have a choice about paying them and the money should come back to us!!
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Posted by: Sojourner on Nov 22, 2008 12:29 PM
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If workers think they can do a better job, then they ought to elect politicians who will let them try. "Too big to fail" no longer excuses socialism for private profit.
As with some of the other comments on this thread, however, it is not clear that the American worker wants anything except the role of dependent whiner. Blame the boss is a fraudulent as blame the union.
I am an American citizen/consumer and I am tired of being caught between labor and management. Nationalize, nationalize, nationalize. At least it would change the terms of the argument.
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Posted by: RedScare on Nov 22, 2008 12:30 PM
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But who am I to judge though? I'm just some idiot who realized that being a CPA would be better than being trapped in some factory complaining about low wages and crappy ass benefits. The partners at my firm earn well over 7 figures each year because of their ideas and their leadership. Sure, they have some off years but they've earned their money. Do I complain about my 90k per year while they go sailing in personal yachts off the Golden Coast each year? No. I'm a hard worker and not a whiner.
I realize that it is in the best interest of those who outsource these so-called "American" jobs to do so. The bottom line is profitability regardless of what business you're in. Not to make friends with the American people.
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» RE: Anyone ever hear of Ayn Rand? Why? And oh, of COURSE, a different job! They're everywhere.
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Posted by: halg on Nov 22, 2008 2:55 PM
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Promoting the general welfare means looking after the health of the citizens, seeing they are well fed and clothed, providing for them when they cannot find work, and yes, even paying them to stay home to raise children or to fund their college re-education for a new field. The wealth generated by millions of workers should be enjoyed by those workers, not hoarded by the wealthy to poor down their throats at $499 a bottle while the unemployed starve.
Workers are not supermen, nor should they be expected to be. If they are ignorant and make poor choices, then ask why their education was so poor. If they did not take advantage of their free educations, ask why they did not study harder and discover ways to help students study and learn more effectively. But don't blame them for not knowing what they don't already know. That is futile, and you look very silly trying.
Everything in this world is integrally linked together, so there is no point in trying to single out certain individuals or groups to blame. Let's use our collective brilliance and wisdom to develop new systems of economy and society that will better all of us. But don't abolish social welfare systems; they are essential to any sustainable systems we devise.
Promote the general welfare, ensure domestic tranquility, and be proud of it, America. Our founding fathers were!
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» general Welfare; fantastic. We should post the preamble everywhere, and recite IT. here it is.
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» RE: general Welfare; fantastic. We should post the preamble everywhere, and recite IT. here it is.
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Posted by: ahmlco on Nov 22, 2008 3:14 PM
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CHEAP unskilled labor.
The only thing most American labor has to its advantage is location: they're here in the US. They're not better educated, they're not harder workers, they don't have a better work ethic, they're simply here.
And that's no longer good enough.
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Posted by: joeocho88 on Nov 22, 2008 3:52 PM
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There were NO benefits like insurance and NO job security but IT WAS THE ONLY WORK I WAS ABLE TO FIND!
I next went into private security as a private security officer contracting service subcontractor and carried a firearm for twenty years ==doing EXACTLY the same stuff a small-town cop does and facing unbelievable HATRED and gender bias from male co-workers to the point to where after 20 years. I HAD ENOUGH!
(You are supposed to protect the accumulated riches of others with your life if necessary but are not paid enough and don't have enough free time to accumulate riches of your own --PLUS THERE IS NO RETIREMENT, NO HEALTH INSURANCE or "PERKS" as people know them here either.) I have known hundreds of people in Texas who have NEVER had a job with health insurance or benefits of any kind except what has been mandated by OSHA and Federal Wages and Hours and I was 30 years old before I found out about those! Did you know that your employer can take Social Security out of your check and KEEP it and that it is YOUR responsibility to insure that your employer is actually paying into YOUR Social Security account? I didn't until I checked into it and it was a security contracting company that was trying to keep my social security money!
You have to work overtime hours from hell to even begin to keep pace with the cost of living.
You are also treated like disposable,interchangeable GARBAGE with total disregard of how you perform your job. There are no job descriptions, no merit raises, no promotions, no seniority, no benefits.
Even worse, when you have been a Security officer more than a year or two, you will be AUTOMATICALLY GUARANTEED a BAD JOB REFERENCE (because they want to keep you in bondage, so to speak, people who can get a commission to carry a firearm for what they pay are RARE!) and NOBODY wants to hire you in another industry because of the stereotypes of the man with the pint of hootch in the Captain Kangaroo-style uniform jacket ASLEEP on duty OR they think that only a knuckle-dragger with a minus IQ can do the job.
AND THIS IS APPARENTLY HOW ALL AMERICAN EMPLOYERS WANT TO TREAT THEIR EMPLOYEES --IF THEY CAN'T ELIMINATE THEM THROUGH TECHNOLOGY!
We can't all be in the health professions...
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Posted by: puf_almighty on Nov 22, 2008 7:36 PM
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2. That these CEOs should be making millions of dollars, and talking about cutting labor costs? Look, even if you are burning only a fraction of your overhead in your CEO's pay, even if you are losing more money to the unions than you are to the CEO's, I don't care. Cut that evil bastard's pay to, hmm, say, a mere ten times my own, and then we'll talk about tightening some belts.
Unless you think he works ten times as hard as I do.
3. I'm working as an Americorps volunteer, around 55 hours a week making $1,200 a month, living in Austin, which is supposedly this hideously expensive city to live in. I'm making it just fine, because I keep my bills and expenses low. Granted, I don't have kids to raise. But I don't have house or car payments, because I have a bus pass and an apartment, and I don't have utility bills because I found a sweet "all bills paid" lease.
I've got two college degrees and have turned down far more lucrative jobs. I just don't understand why everyone's so run around by money all the time. You don't need that much. Sure, you can find a way to spend it all. But if you're smart, you won't.
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Posted by: PaulD on Nov 22, 2008 10:13 PM
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We own two Toyotas, one Honda, and one Chevy.
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Posted by: richholland on Nov 22, 2008 10:50 PM
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now you vote for the Democrated billionaires and they cannot help you. The only thing I fear for you is the creation of a third Party.
and start working less and live more.
read books how the scandinavian countries do their things and DONOT go with your army to foreign countries.
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Posted by: Farasien on Nov 22, 2008 10:52 PM
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Get ready for another 4 years of hell.
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Posted by: justacitizen on Nov 23, 2008 7:54 AM
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In 1965, a brand new car cost (on average) $2,500, a 1000 sq ft house cost $12,000 and the average wage was $6,000 per year. Fast forward to today, a new car (conservatively) costs 25,000, a 1000 sq ft house costs 135,000. Where is our average wage? about $22,500.
I ascert the fed policy of the last 30 + years is the key stone of the wage disparity in this country, and until that is changed, we will never make progress on wages.
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Posted by: nfamous on Nov 24, 2008 4:16 AM
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Americans as a whole cannot band together to solve anything. We have become dependent on government and completely divided. Few people want to hitch their wagon to anyone else's. We see our struggles as individual struggles because we have been socially engineered to do just that while we continue to deny the truth about what the elite do to our minds and bodies from behind the curtain. We are fools.
Corporations will continue to fleece Americans because Americans hate each other too much to unite against them. It will only get worse under Obama. Everything will be privatized including our water supply and we will beg the government for mercy within our lifetimes. This is what happens when the people are drugged up, hooked on consumerism and brainwashed from watching tv all the time. Who will change that? No one. Prepare for the end and it has nothing to do with religion.
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Odds are that he also played on the high school football team, skipped classes, and that he and his buddies thought education was a joke. And now believes that the unskilled uneducated "American Worker" is magically entitled to high wages and a decent living.
Sorry. Wrong. Thanks for playing.
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Odds are that he also played on the high school football team, skipped classes, and that he and his buddies thought education was a joke. And now believes that the unskilled uneducated "American Worker" is magically entitled to high wages and a decent living.
Sorry. Wrong. Thanks for playing.
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