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The Five Most Wanted Rip-off Artists from Wall Street and Washington

Our economy didn't melt down, it was taken down the unbridled greed of economic elites, enabled by their political courtesans in Washington.
November 3, 2008  |  
 
 
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What the hell's happening here? Why is my bank in the tank? And my house and job? And my retirement money? Even my state's teetering on the brink of broke! Who did this to us?

Fair questions, but we're not getting honest answers. Last year, at the first signs of the global financial slide toward the abyss, we were told that it's just a little hiccup caused by something called subprime mortgages. Not to worry, the Powers That Be declared confidently, for we have the damage contained. And rest assured that "the fundamentals of our economy are sound."

Then, this spring, Bear Stearns cratered, requiring an emergency federal subsidy to cover billions in bad loans. Okay, admitted those in charge, that subprime stuff actually is leveraged on up the financial system, and maybe there's been a bit of greed among a few of the big players, but we really do have the problem contained now, and, hey, "the fundamentals of our economy are sound."

But in September--Omigosh!--there went Lehman Brothers, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, AIG, Merrill Lynch, Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, WaMu, Wachovia, and others. Well, yes, conceded the now-frazzled financial establishment, but gollies, we're throwing hundreds of billions of your tax dollars into sandbags to contain the problem, and remember: "The fundamentals of our economy are sound."

In October, the contagion rolled through Britain, Canada, and Europe; it spread to Brazil and across to China and Japan; and--Holy Schmoly--suddenly all of Iceland was melting in bankruptcy! Stay calm, cried an openly panicked chorus of Washington officials, for we're holding some big summit meetings soon and consulting our Ouija boards, and...uh...ah...um...y'all just keep clinging to the thought that "the fundamentals of our economy are sound."

Laissez Fairies



You don't have to be in Who's Who to know What's What, do you? The fundamentals are NOT sound.

Wall Street and Washington (excuse the redundancy there) want us commoners to believe that this viral spread of economic grief was caused by those lower-income homeowners who couldn't pay their subprime loans--merely an unforeseeable glitch in a complex and otherwise healthy financial system. Hogwash. The source of today's pain is the same as it was in America's previous financial collapses: the unbridled greed of economic elites, enabled by their political courtesans in Washington.

This unbridling has been the long-sought goal of a cabal of deregulation ideologues who dwell in laissez-fairyland. During the past two decades, they have relentlessly pushed their economic fantasies into law. Their theory was that (to use Ronald Reagan's simple construct) "the magic of the marketplace" would create an eternal rainbow of prosperity through financial "innovation"--if only the market was unshackled from any pesky public regulations. What the dereg theorists missed, however, is that magicians don't perform magic. They perform illusions.

Let's meet some of the illusionists who are directly responsible for hurling you, me, America, and most of the world into this dark and as-yet unplumbed economic hole.

Phil Gramm



Snide, sour, and sanctimonious, this former senator from Texas is now head lobbyist for the Swiss-based banking giant, UBS, as well as chief economic adviser for his old chum John McCain. A bathed-in-the-blood, footwashing, free-market absolutist, Gramm advocates a virulent brand of antigovernment, market-knows-best, Rambo capitalism.

In 1999, as chair of the Senate Banking Committee, he had the power to implement some of his cockamamie dogmas. First, he pushed through a bill to dissolve the 1933 Glass-Steagall Act, a New Deal reform that prohibited banks, investment houses, and insurance companies from combining into one corporation. By keeping these components of our financial system separate, Glass-Steagall made sure that the crash of one of them would not bring down the other two. But a number of Wall Street banks, led by what would become Citigroup, saw a profit windfall for themselves if only they could scuttle the old law and merge banking, investment, and insurance into huge financial conglomerates. The senator was their ideological soul mate, and he was delighted to rig the system for them.

On November 12, 1999, a gloating Gramm celebrated having sledgehammered the regulatory walls that separated the three financial functions:
"We are here today to repeal Glass-Steagall because we have learned that government is not the answer. We have learned that freedom and competition are the answers. We have learned that we promote economic growth and we promote stability by having competition and freedom. I am proud to be here because this is an important bill; it is a deregulatory bill. I believe that's the wave of the future, and I am awfully proud to have been a part of making it a reality."
But repealing Glass-Steagall was only step one for this free-market holy roller. In literally the dead of night, just before Congress's Christmas break in 2000, Chairman Gramm snuck a short provision into an 11,000-page appropriations bill. The item, which only a few lobbyists and lawmakers knew had been inserted, became law when the larger bill was signed by then-President Bill Clinton. Gramm's little legislative sticky note decreed that a relatively new, exotic, and inherently risky form of investments called "derivatives" were not to be regulated--or even monitored--by the government.

It should be noted here that Democrats were also butt-deep in the dereg orthodoxy. Such Wall Street sycophants as Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) had drunk deeply from the holy cup of derivatives deregulation, and Clinton's top economic advisors Robert Rubin (formerly with Goldman Sachs and now with Citigroup) and Lawrence Summers (also a veteran of Wall Street) were in harness with the Republicans on this effort.

By 2008, the freewheeling derivatives market, including derivatives based on those lowly subprime housing loans, bloated to a stunning $531 trillion. That's 531 followed by 12 zeroes! These little-understood, essentially secret investment schemes came to dominate our entire financial system--and when thousands of regular folks began defaulting on their subprime loans, the derivatives based on them essentially became worthless. Investment houses, which were up to their corporate keisters in these funny-money subprime derivatives, began collapsing, and the now-interlocked banks and insurance companies began tumbling down with them. Gramm's deregulatory "wave of the future" had become a financial tsunami.

Alan Greenspan



This guy's mug should be on wanted posters in every post office in America. As Federal Reserve chairman from 1987 to 2006, he held the regulatory power to prevent the irrational inflation of the huge derivatives bubble that has now burst-- yet he fought fiercely through four presidencies to prevent even the meekest oversight by the Fed or any other agency. Nicknamed "The Oracle," Chairman Greenspan was inscrutable and arrogant, but he also possessed a detailed knowledge of financial minutiae and an air of superiority that simultaneously bedazzled and intimidated presidents, lawmakers, and other public officials.

However, not everyone was sanguine about the chairman's reliance on derivatives as the pillar of Wall Street's financial strength. Many wise heads viewed these financial "products" as speculative mumbo-jumbo. Billionaire financier George Soros says his firm never invested in them "because we don't really understand how they work." Investment banker Felix Rohatyn described them as "hydrogen bombs." Back in 2003, investment guru Warren Buffett called them "financial weapons of mass destruction" that were "potentially lethal" for our economy.

But Greenspan's voice was the most powerful, and he was both a determined bureaucratic protector and an exuberant cheerleader for derivatives. Meanwhile, wealthy investors worldwide were making a killing from their investments in these bizarre pieces of paper, and few in Washington were willing even to question The Oracle.

"I always felt that the titans of our legislature didn't want to reveal their own inability to understand some of the concepts that Mr. Greenspan was setting forth," said Arthur Levitt, a well-regarded Wall Street regulator under Clinton. "I don't recall anyone ever saying, 'What do you mean by that, Alan?'"

So the bubble kept expanding.

Why was Greenspan so insistent on no regulation? Because he is the hardest of hardcore laissez-faire ideologues, holding a blazing disdain for government. An avowed worshiper of libertarian novelist Ayn Rand, he views public oversight of business as an evil force that deters the creativity of smart elites. He is so psyched by his religious-like faith in the "free market" that he fervently believes in what he considers to be the innate good will and moral superiority of investors and bankers. He asserts that these self-interested individuals can simply be trusted to do the right thing, and that government should not second-guess their decisions.

Even the faith of snake handlers is not as devout as Greenspan's. Unfortunately, however, he was able to hitch our nation's economic well-being to his own absurdist ideological fancy. The guy who was lionized as the smartest, most- stable economic thinker in the land essentially turns out to have been a quasi-religious nut.

Chris Cox



A GOP member of Congress for 17 years, Cox was another deregulation diehard and a reliable advocate for Wall Street's pampered CEO class--a role he continued to play after Bush chose him in 2005 to succeed Donaldson as SEC chair. At the commission, he weakened the ability of the enforcement staff even to investigate securities violations by Wall Street firms, much less prosecute them. Also, in an act of pure ideological folly, he eliminated an office that had been set up specifically to watch out for future problems with such high-risk investments as derivatives.

In essence, he took the cops off the beat at the very time more cops were needed. In October, when the stuff was hitting the fan, a chagrined Cox offered this brilliant insight: "The last six months have made it abundantly clear that voluntary regulation does not work." Thanks, Chris.

William Donaldson



The Securities and Exchange Commission supposedly regulates investment banks, and in 2004 it was headed by--guess who?--a Wall Street investment banker, Bill Donaldson. On April 28 of that year, he presided over a little-noticed SEC meeting held in the commission's basement to consider an obscure rule change urgently requested by the Big Five investment banks (including Goldman Sachs, then headed by Henry Paulson--yes, the same treasury secretary who just designed George W's Wall Street bailout). The bankers wanted an exemption from a sensible requirement that they keep a sizeable pool of money on hand to cover potential losses. Turn these reserve funds loose, pleaded the bankers, so we can put more of our investors' money into this opaque but lucrative area known as derivatives.

After less than an hour of discussion, Donaldson and his four SEC colleagues voted unanimously to do this favor for the bankers. As a bonus, the generous commissioners also decided to let the banks themselves monitor the level of risk they were putting on investors--and ultimately on the backs of taxpayers.

In this one meeting, which was not covered by the media, the dereg geniuses had struck another major blow for banker recklessness, and the likes of Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, and others were sent further down the giddy path to their--and our--ruin. "The problem with such voluntary [regulations]," said Roderick Hills, Gerald Ford's former SEC chairman, "is that, as we've seen throughout history, they often don't work." Duh!

Henry Paulson



As honcho of Goldman Sachs, Hank drew a $37 million paycheck the year before Bush waved him into the Treasury Department to oversee the whole U.S. economy. At Goldman, he was considered one of Wall Street's "smart guys" who had figured out how to make billions in brokerage fees by packaging and selling these wondrous pieces of wizardry called derivatives, and he came into government as an unquestioning believer in deregulatory doctrine. Now that deregulated derivatives have turned out to be so much hokum, Hank's in charge of the bailout--and his former firm is in line to get at least $10 billion from it.

The Paulson bailout plan is flawed in many awful ways, but start with this basic one: the money (some estimates now put the total taxpayer cost above $2 trillion) is being handed to the same schemers and finaglers who caused the crash. The public gets to contribute the funds, but it gets no seat at the table to decide how the system (and who in it) will be "rescued."

With typical antigovernment extremism, Paulson's plan makes the public passive investors in the banks we're saving, leaving all the say-so to the banks' current executives and directors. Our money is being given away by the Bush ideologues with no strings attached--not even a requirement that it go into new loans so credit can quickly flow into the American economy again! Excuse me? Unclogging that credit flow was Paulson's rationale for giving $125 billion to nine giant banks (Bank of America, Citigroup, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Bank of New York, and State Street). He now says he "hopes" the banks will use the money to make loans, but he refuses to require them to do so.

Meanwhile, bankers themselves say they are more likely simply to sit on the money for awhile or--get this--use it to buy up smaller competitors! Yes, that means that our tax dollars will go toward eliminating competition in America's banking market. Not only will this leave consumers and businesses with fewer choices, but this will also increase the size of poorly managed megabanks that have already been designated by the Bush-Paulson regime as "too big to fail."

Laissez-faire follies



One positive to come from this collapse is that it exposes the bankruptcy of several core ideas that have been pushed by free-market illusionists. For example, market infallibility--the notion that Wall Street investors, analysts, and bankers know more than anyone else, and the government (aka the public) should just get the hell out of the way and behold unfettered genius at work. So, behold. (And, by the way, these are the exact same people who only months ago were insisting that Americans would be so much better off if they would move their Social Security money from government hands to the more adventuresome wizards of Wall Street.)

Yet, those bankers and politicos who pushed this antigovernment ethos to today's disastrous conclusion remain delusional. They cry for trillions of our tax dollars, but they insist that the profiteers must control the bailout and remain free of public supervision. George W himself still sticks with fantasy over reality, claiming that the fundamentals of the system are sound and that it is "essential" that any reforms not interfere with the "free market."

It's been a scream to hear these devout market ideologues explain how they've just become Wall Street socialists. Having big, bad government buy up the failed investments, then partially nationalize America's financial system, is an unwelcome choice for Bush. "I frankly don't want the government involved," he said. "It was necessary." Bailout chief Paulson (dubbed "King Henry" by Newsweek) said, "We regret having to take these actions"--but they're necessary.

Why necessary? Because laissez-faire ideology is a crock. It failed. Americans are not being told the blunt truth, which is that the financial mess we're in today is a direct result of the laissez-faire fraud that Wall Street and Washington willfully imposed on our nation. CEOs and banking lobbyists, presidents and treasury secretaries, regulators and lawmakers (of both parties) failed to protect America from money-grubbing bankers, hedge-fund speculators, and other big players.

As we've learned in the past few weeks, there is no "free" market. Indeed, it's quite pricey when it trips and falls over the inevitable outcroppings of greed. That's why strong, vigilant, and aggressive public regulation is essential. Don't be fooled by claims that just throwing money at the hucksters will fix the problem. The only way to make America's financial system trustworthy is to return to the sound fundamentals of public oversight--starting with the bailout itself.
From "The Hightower Lowdown," edited by Jim Hightower and Phillip Frazer, November 2008. Jim Hightower is a national radio commentator, writer, public speaker and author of the book Swim Against the Current: Even a Dead Fish Can Go With the Flow. (Wiley, March 2008)
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The public knows they are being scammed.
Posted by: Artkansas on Nov 3, 2008 12:29 AM   
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The magic of the market is less popular than before and while I have a Libertarian friend who still believes in non-regulation, even he agrees that there should have been no bail out. He is miffed that the rules were changed at a very convenient time.

I wrote my representatives before the vote on the Bailout/Payoff, urging them to say no and study the matter in depth and take Roosevelt's policy as a model.

They ignored me and rolled over like puppies. This bill was a travesty. A gravy train for the guilty.

I'm certainly voting against the incumbents in this election. Not that I think it will help much. Too many people are still in the Democrat/Republican are the only alternatives mindset. Politics are corrupt!

We know we are being scammed, but being able to fight it is something else. Our representatives represent the big businesses, not their constituients.

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The "Free" market
Posted by: drfun on Nov 3, 2008 2:01 AM   
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All the fascist's "Goon's & Thug's" of the Bu$h cabal and their accomplices in Congress McCain,Biden and Obama included are "Enemy Combatant's" of the USA voting for this unpatriotic bill, with all deserving life sentences at Gitmo enduring what "Enemy Combatant's" have.

I know Obama "Zombies" will be falsely accusing me of being a "Racist" while the pontificate from their non-minority neighborhoods, go figure.

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Out the Co-Conspirators, Too
Posted by: Dr. J on Nov 3, 2008 2:41 AM   
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While your article names the individuals, particularly Gramm and Greenspan, who created the foundation for this economic house of cards, there were, and are, many on both sides of the aisle, who conspired to create the chimera of solvency and sound policy.

Look at Biden and the Credit Card Industry, as well as Schummer and the Hedge Fund Managers, etc. It would be helpful if we had a listing that correlates all the large corporations, from oil to military, from pharma to financials, alongside their enablers in congress, the executive branch and, last but not least, the federal judiciary. Then we can truly assess who are the co-conspirators in this debacle. They too need to be outed.

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It's called FASCISM
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Nov 3, 2008 3:48 AM   
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And it stars a place where “capitalism” and "democracy" cannot & DOES NOT EXIST outside of Orwellian BS slogans to betray gullible Americans into betraying themselves.

There's the real fairytale: Fascism sold as killing joke "democracy" by the usual Organized Corporate Crime Rule .

Fascists and Fascism has brought on the liar-fest of blood money genocide 9/11 "war on terror" into martial law blackmail Wall Street "bailout". All of it supported 100% by McCain and Obama in the pocket of their criminal paymasters to be sold straight down the line in the name of (what else) but "freedom" and "democracy".

Would you like a little denial with that folks? A little cognitive dissonance perhaps?

Meanwhile we've got the Alternets of the world recycling most of the Washington-MSM circus lies that McCain and Obama have pumped out wholesale every day on the campaign trail.

By now the only people that actually tell anything like the truth are marginalized, demoted, fired, or just plain told to shut up and go away, lest they rain on the sordid parade.

As George Carlin said: "If you have selfish ignorant citizens you're going to get selfish ignorant leaders...The public sucks. F**k Hope...Forget the politicians. They’re irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice.

You have OWNERS. They OWN YOU. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying to get what they want. Well we know what they want: they want more for themselves and less for everybody else.”


Welcome to Amerika -- land of slaves, home of fool cowards.

God help us.

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Greenspan should feel the shame of his inaction
Posted by: cognitorex on Nov 3, 2008 4:45 AM   
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Circa 1986 I sat high up over the New York City financial area with a prominent bank's Executive VP and Director.
He said, "Where do you think we should be looking for future profits, we'd like to have of our equity 'at play.'
I was flattered that he should court my opinion. I also remember thinking, "Half your equity at play, what are you, nuts?"
The bank is no more in existence.
The thinking that taking increasing risk in order to increase bonuses brought the system down. Paying people to book trades and make risky loans without waiting for repayment or profits to be realized created a bonus atmosphere versus a profit atmosphere.
Greenspan absolutely had to fully know of these issues.
For personal or political reasons he let the GOP/big bank's horsepucky 'no regulation' mantra rule global financial markets to the gross neglect of the world's individual depositors and pension holders, both average folks and the very wealthy.
His legacy from his time at the helm is cowardice and abject failure. I hope he can feel shame; lots of it, unregulated.

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more wanted posters
Posted by: cynthe on Nov 3, 2008 5:01 AM   
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i agree about the wanted posters, but you should also add all senators and representatives who supported deregulation. Just because a bill is proposed, doesn't mean our representatives have to support it.

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No Bob and Larry on Jim's list?
Posted by: Teller on Nov 3, 2008 5:03 AM   
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Not Rubin? Not Summers? Not...
Hightower again playing pick up the soap in the Democratic Party showers.

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Can Someone Actually Explain to Me...
Posted by: Russianrocket on Nov 3, 2008 5:04 AM   
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How derivatives caused the current crisis. I keep hearing the same quote from Buffer over and over again, about financial weapons of mass destruction, but no one has yet to explain to me how derivatives are responsible for the crisis. For that matter, no article on this site has actaully given a good explanation of what a derivative actually is.

Can someone please give me a detailed explanation of how derivatives are responsible for this and not something like, say interest rates being too low for too long (A legitimate criticism of Greenspan) or are current accound deficit?

Thank You

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Trickle Down is the Feudal System- TREASON
Posted by: Purple Girl on Nov 3, 2008 5:15 AM   
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Having considered myself a avid 'Clintonian' during the '90's ...Hindsight ( Hillary's Inactions in the senate and her dispictable campaign)Have smacked the Rose Colored Glasses Off my face. Granted I was far more liberal than the Clintons (and am still more liberal than sen Obama) but after 12 yrs of Trickle down and social shackling I was willing to compromise any way possible to change the tide. Well it appeared to have been shifted a bit...Until this meltdown. The Clinton's pushed everything Forward..Not 'Pay it forward', But 'Play it forward'..No wonder we had so much extra cash on hand after he left office..They Paid for Nothing!
this is why I am Revolted everytime I hear the Lastest Cheney Puppets bitch about possilbe tax increases. Frankly the Rich should be kicking down...Since it was OUR money they stole anyway. Neither should any of US bitch since it is Our Duty to try to rectify this Fuck Up before the Next genereation must be placed upon th eGlobal Auction block Too.
We must have as much fortitude and committment to them as our Grandparents showed during the First Great depression.
Paying taxes is not just 'Patriotic' it is our Duty to our Children and their Children. Funny a MOTHER of 5 has no concept of Duty to her own children...That alone tells me enough about where Sarah Palins priorities lie.Sacrific? Our Country Was Built on Sacrific.Just as in Merry Ol' England which many of Our ancestors Fled, Trickle Dwon is the Economy of Kings.
The last 30 yrs have been controlled by Monarchy Loyalist -not to English Rule, but in Hopes of Building their Own here.Seems many in the Republican party dusted off their Red Coats and Crowns. Waht is the difference if it's a Family Crest or a Corp Logo is the Rich control all the wealth created by the other Classes? ABsolutely NOTHING!
The name it self implies it's goal- to Retain Wealth and only dispense to those Below in samll increments. It might as well been called 'PAY UP'.
But this has not been their only means be resurrect the systems ourancestors fled and bleed to defeat...Consider the Religious right and their Judgement on all others...they would like US to bow to their 'Holy' Order too.
How dare these people call themselves the 'True Americans' when both doctrines are explicitly UNAmerican!
Our only possible escape is the Vote and what are they doing..Lying to the voters about eligibility, Intimidating others, blocking participation and very likely stealing votes when ever possible.
These Are High Crimes and should be Prosecuted as Such, To the Fullest extent of the Law. It is time we take a page out of our Friends the French's History Book...Viva la America..Off with their Heads!
Economic, Social and religious Oppression has NO place in Our Free Market Democracy and We Must make it VERY Clear it will not be tolerated Anymore!

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Rather short list
Posted by: al.hamilton on Nov 3, 2008 5:17 AM   
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Odd that the infamous George Soros is not included in Mr. Hightower's analysis.

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Sub prime frenzy
Posted by: RedFoxOne on Nov 3, 2008 6:10 AM   
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I think it goes back to the sub prime frenzy! Greed, the almighty dollar. the loan brokers getting their commission, the real estate broker getting their commission, greed, greed and more greed. nevermind the borrowers ability to actually repay the loan, just give me my commission.

JIff
Is your ISP watching you?

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Why isn't Bill Clinton on the list?
Posted by: sausage on Nov 3, 2008 6:29 AM   
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Y'know Abraham Lincoln was wrong: "You can fool all of the people all of the time," and Bill Clinton is living proof of that. He fooled 250,000,000 Americans into thinking he is a "liberal" Democrat! And he still has Rush-Limbaugh-listeners and Ted Nugent-fans fooled!

Richard Nixon wasn't crazy enough undo the New Deal. And even Ronald "Government is the problem" Reagan wasn't crazy enough to go full bore with the anti-New Deal deregulation of the financial industry that we saw during the Clinton years. Yet Bill Clinton happily signed the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 into law, wiping out Glass-Steagall, which led to the current disastrous collapse of the banking and investment businesses.

And, until Monica Lewinsky disclosed a semen stain on here blue dress, Clinton and secret ally Newt Gingrich were on the verge of "reforming" Social Security and Medicare, i.e. privatization and the setting up of individual investment accounts, much as the Bush II administration proposed eight years later. This is documented in a recently published book, The Pact: Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, and the Rivalry that Defined a Generation, by History Channel host Steven Gillon.

Even if Barack Obama wins tomorrow's election, the work is far from over. We must drive the elephants-in-donkey suits of the Democratic Leadership Council into the light of day where they can be exposed for what they really are: Rockefeller Republicans.

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Greed and corruption has brought the country down.
Posted by: Dana L. Stern on Nov 3, 2008 6:35 AM   
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This country has been redesigned in the last eight years to server the rich, Washington D.C. elitists, and Wall Street. National security was cast aside by these people in their never ending quest for money and power. McCain will deliver the death blow if elected!

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How many more idiots
Posted by: grindermonkey on Nov 3, 2008 6:58 AM   
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can Texas produce? Jim, we have counted on you to ferret out these lunatics but they still seem to get past the border guards of reason and prudence. I am thinking that this fence on the border of Mexico should be extended all the way around Texas. These men are the poster children for Christian home schooling and Bob Jones MBA's. Faith-based finance doesn't even exist at the used car lot; why should it exist at the US Treasury? Messianic economics has produced in 2008 the Second Coming of 1929. We are all being nailed to the cross.

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The Re-Establishment Act of the People 2008
Posted by: mwhitley5562 on Nov 3, 2008 7:42 AM   
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This act will restore our Government Back to its Constitutional Republic it was meant to be.
It will remove all of Congress that voted yes on the Bailout, It will bring about an impartial investigation into all Politicians, and remove from public office any who are found to have committed any type of unbecoming behavior for a public servant. It calls for a return of all money taken for any of the bailouts, it will exspand understanding of the Constitution by the common person(Plain and Simple) It will expand content to prevent this kind of action from ever happening again. This act is aimed at all three branches of our Government. This act will shrink Government, and at the same time bring about a element that includes observation over Congress. (position to watch out for the Peoples interest). There is a lot more involved in this act, and if you would like to know more please respond here.

Mike

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The Myth that Laissez Faire Is Responsible for Our Present Crisis
Posted by: alball on Nov 3, 2008 8:55 AM   
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http://mises.org/story/3165

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Democratic Congress Complicit in this Swindle
Posted by: dayahka on Nov 3, 2008 8:59 AM   
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Yes, of course, we have been swindled. Paulson, the man who cooked up those toxic securities, is now bailing out all his rich friends on Wall Street--and doing absolutely nothing for the real economy. The fake economy of the banks and securities firms are still raking it in; the out-of-date car companies are lining up; mortgages are being re-written based on current values, but what happens when house values plunge another 30 percent and your revised mortgage is still more expensive than the value of your house? And who do we appeal to to get us out of this mess, when the Democratic Congress fell over itself to give nearly a trillion dollars to the fake--non-productive--economy?

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Same Problem...Different Century
Posted by: robertmc on Nov 3, 2008 9:22 AM   
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This is only the latest manifestation of the same problem we have had for 300 years- fractional reserve lending. Until it's done away with, we will continue to suffer at the hands of greedy and foolish slave owners of debtors.
EVERY American should watch this video and ask themselves why this is allowed to continue...this creation of wealth out of nothing more than promises.
Jim, maybe you could do a shorter video in your inimitable style?

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STEVEN KING, WHERE ARE YOU NOW.
Posted by: AlteredStates on Nov 3, 2008 9:29 AM   
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The 700 billion dollar give-a-way, that Bush/Paulson/Wall Street engineered, was only a "stop gap" meant to prevent an immediate, world wide, melt-down. But, wait until next year,(as they say).
This is what Steven King dreams about. But this time, it's going to be REAL, as in nightmare!!!

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Mis-understanding
Posted by: Ignatz deFyre on Nov 3, 2008 10:34 AM   
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Part of the problem in correctly understanding issues is the debasement of language into a tool of manipulation. The result is that it has become increasingly difficult for people to extract true meaning, since the same word or phrase can signify completely different constructs to different people. They may be in agreement, or disagreement, as the case may be, without knowing it.

In Interventionism, An Economic Analysis (1940), Ludwig von Mises wrote:

"The usual terminology of political language is stupid. What is 'left' and what is 'right'? Why should Hitler be 'right' and Stalin, his temporary friend, be 'left'? Who is 'reactionary' and who is 'progressive'? Reaction against an unwise policy is not to be condemned. And progress towards chaos is not to be commended. Nothing should find acceptance just because it is new, radical, and fashionable. 'Orthodoxy' is not an evil if the doctrine on which the 'orthodox' stand is sound. Who is anti-labor, those who want to lower labor to the Russian level, or those who want for labor the capitalistic standard of the United States? Who is 'nationalist,' those who want to bring their nation under the heel of the Nazis, or those who want to preserve its independence?"

We talk about the USA, for example, as “democracy", which is defined as (dictionary.com): government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

If by "people" we mean persons of average means and intelligence, in reality, the "people" do not govern since their representatives arrive in office pursuant to a process that has been manipulated to favor a moneyed and ownership class minority. Neither is the electoral system "free", unless by free we mean free to be manipulated due to lack of unbiased structure and regulation.

Mr. Hightower says: "government (aka public)", but there is nothing public about it: it consists of the elite and their minions.

Even "capitalism" has lost it's proper meaning (dictionary.com): an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, esp. as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth.

While capitalism exists supra-nationally, there is no capitalism in the USA, because the USA manufactures very little anymore. The "producer" is the factory in China, and its owner may live in the USA, or in the Bahamas; the condition of the average American, or any other wage earner, is irrelevant to him. So the USA is reduced to "producing" intangibles - money out of nothing: debt, to shuffle and slice and dice to make it look like there's an economy. An economy, where somebody actually makes something useful for someone to use, needs consumers, and debt cannot be consumed, only assumed.

Any step in the direction of logically understanding and trouble-shooting what is happening in the world today requires recalibration of our thinking back to the fundamental meanings of the concepts upon which societies and economies are based.

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"the government(aka the public)"
Posted by: Knot_Rich on Nov 3, 2008 10:37 AM   
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And where, pray tell, did he get that idea?
As his own article points out time and again, and thank goodness he recognizes that this was not just a republican or democratic problem, "the government" no longer represents "the public" as we define it. The public represented by Washington is the Harvard and Yale Ivy League Elite Club, the people who consider themselves far smarter and better than all the rest of us. The rest of us aren't too proud to say "Huh" when these guys start spouting bullshit, but in those circles questioning for clarity would be like admiting they weren't as smart as the others, so everything goes unchallanged. "The people" haven't been represented in decades, we've become nothing more than a nusance to deal with during election years and cash cows to be milked when they've screwed up and need more money. Many of us wrote all the senators and congressmen we could, even those from other states, telling them to just say "no". The public outcry was torrential, but, in the end, who was represented? The public? Fraid not, once again, without having a choice or any say in the matter we were milked to fund a bail out, our names forged to the loan agreement. And how many of those ?representatives? who voted against the will of their constituents will be held accountable and voted out of office, probably none, because most of the people simply go back to their recliners and rot in front of ESPN, many won't even bother to vote because it's too much trouble to stand in line, and besides, "it doesn't make any difference anyway", and they wonder why we have the ?representatives? we do. Apathy is a politicians best friend.

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Bush is the only socialist president in American history.
Posted by: jreal on Nov 3, 2008 10:52 AM   
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Too bad it's for Wall Street. If you think Bush is against socialism your wrong. It's just a matter of which socialism he supports.

Red flags were going up in my head when John Boehner and other K-Street Republicans were pushing and pushing and pushing for this bailout with such a begging manner. These people work for corporations. They are lobbyists with a seat in Washington. Especially Boehner.

Boehner wants corporate rule. He is against any government programs and would rather corporations take care of us. That's how third world countries work. Monopolistic companies supposedly looking out for the people's best interest. Too bad they don't necesarily have to.

If you think Bush is dissapointed about the bail-out, think again. He's getting backroom hi-fives, and whole lot of them. And so is Boehner for bringing home the cookies.

They got the deregulations and they have profited well. They lost their bets but they could count on socialism or a broken country. They knew we couldn't have a broken America.

Looks like Republicans are socialists after all. And they couldn't be happier.

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The Reaganometric Meltdown!!
Posted by: maxsmart on Nov 3, 2008 12:05 PM   
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This has been more like 28 yrs as the Reaganometric policy has coursed like cocaine through our country's economic veins!!! free market, best govt is no govt, no regs, deregs, and as Hightower says laissez fairie policy. Our fuddy duddy Pres has been continuously quoted by all these people as their inspiration except but maybe Greenspan gets to trace his genius to Ayn Rand(BFD)!!

Ideology or pure BS it has only proved there was reason for those regs all along!!

Worse still, though is that our business world has been raped by the vulture capitalists in the 80's leaving the Wall Street Wonders nothing to do but invent pyramid schemes. Meanwhile common business practice requires they don't keep any backup funds for fear of buyout vultures who stage hostile takeovers billing themselves as saviors of the stockholders.

Capitalism should be earning the connotation once reserved for liberal and socialist.

Socialism implies social responsibility, something Wall Street sorely lacks, and due to their quarterly earnings ratings now corporate responsibility hardly exists either, look at Exxon-Globilwarming and the EXXON-Valdez settlement or Enron's slight of hand bookkeeping while they were holding the entire state of California hostage.

So it's time to pull back out the social programs, social consciousness, global consciousness, environmental consciousness, socialized medicine, regulation, taxes for necessary government services, turn the switch of government back on and let Phil Gramm and his kind whine their non-functional hearts out

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Here's the cold reality. CALL BUSH AND TELL THEM NOT TO STEAL THE ELECTION
Posted by: cori on Nov 3, 2008 12:41 PM   
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202 456 1111
That's the nightmare. Here's the cold reality.

Swing state Colorado. Before this election, two Republican secretaries of state purged 19.4 percent of the entire voter roll. One in five voters. Pfft!

Swing state New Mexico. One in nine voters in this year's Democratic caucus found their names missing from the state-provided voter registries. And not just any voters. County by county, the number of voters disappeared was in direct proportion to the nonwhite population. Gore won the state by 366 votes; Kerry lost it by only 5,900. Despite reassurances that all has been fixed for Tuesday, Democrats lost from the list in February told me they're still "disappeared" from the lists this week.

Swing state Indiana. In this year's primary, ten nuns were turned away from the polls because of the state's new voter ID law. They had drivers' licenses, but being in their 80s and 90s, they'd let their licenses expire. Cute. But what isn't cute is this: 566,000 registered voters in that state don't have the ID required to vote. Most are racial minorities, the very elderly and first-time voters; that is, Obama voters. Twenty-three other states have new, vote-snatching ID requirements.

Swing state Florida. Despite a lawsuit battle waged by the Brennan Center for Justice, the state's Republican apparatchiks are attempting to block the votes of 85,000 new registrants, forcing them to pass through a new "verification" process. Funny thing: verification applies only to those who signed up in voter drives (mostly black), but not to voters registering at motor vehicle offices (mostly white).



Here's an ugly little secret about American democracy: We don't count all the votes. In 2004, based on the data from the US Elections Assistance Commission, 3,006,080 votes were not counted: "spoiled," unreadable and blank ballots; "provisional" ballots rejected; mail-in ballots disqualified.

This Tuesday, it will be worse. Much worse.

That's what I found while traveling the nation over the last year for BBC Television and Rolling Stone Magazine, working with voting rights attorney Robert F. Kennedy Jr. This we guarantee: there will be far more votes disappeared by Tuesday night than the three million lost in 2004. A six-million vote swipe, quite likely, shifts 4 percent of the ballots, within the margin of error of the tightest polls.

Begin with this harsh statistic: since the last election, more than ten million voters have been purged from the nation's vote registries. And that's just the start of the steal.

If the noncount were random, it wouldn't matter. But it's not random. A US Civil Rights Commission analysis shows that the chance a black voter's ballot will "spoil" or be blank is 900 percent higher than a white voter's.

Does that mean the election's stolen and you should forget voting and just go back to bed for four years? Hell, no. It means you vote and vote smart, learn how to pry their filthy little hands off your ballot (there's a link at the end). from Greg Palast and Robert Kennedy Jr

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Can the economy rebound...this time?
Posted by: foius on Nov 3, 2008 1:52 PM   
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While there are many "culprits", suspects, conspirators, and perpetrators, the ultimate victims in this ongoing recessionary trend in our economy are the American taxpayers/consumers. Who will subsidize our obvious asset devaluations of pensions, 401 (k) plans, homes, and stocks/bonds/insurance? Where will the jobs come from that are needed to fuel our economy? How will the current political and corporate climates impact future policies? Just a few questions that we, the American citizens so desperately need answers to. Can corporate America be trusted with our economic futures? So far, the answer is a resounding NOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!

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DUH!
Posted by: Ahimsa on Nov 3, 2008 3:28 PM   
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It is a Free Market ideology because the lords get to have their market for free, FREE from cost, FREE from responsibility, FREE from oversight, FREE from punishment, FREE from accountability, FREE from taxes!
We pay for it, and they get rich for FREE!
Don't you get it? It is FREE! The Market is FREE! (not us)
DUH!

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Round 'em all up, including the Bushies, and push them all off a cliff...
Posted by: snideelf on Nov 3, 2008 4:53 PM   
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...one at a time.

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Why Only Include Republicans?
Posted by: left_libertarian on Nov 3, 2008 5:57 PM   
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Why not include all the Democrats who voted for the wall st bailout including Obama?

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travelergtoo
Posted by: travelertoo on Nov 3, 2008 6:38 PM   
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The real trickle down theory is when corporations give money to campaigns because lawmakers passed laws to give them monopolies with our money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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LET'S START WITH **GRAMM** - "RICO" INDICTMENTS
Posted by: smendler on Nov 3, 2008 7:37 PM   
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Ah, he'd be the perfect place to start - culpable for both the financial mess and for the state of healthcare. The new AG should ARREST HIM under the RICO statutes (the Republican Party being the relevant corrupt organization) and exact the penalties that the law allows, including (especially!!) asset forfeiture...!

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still going
Posted by: cbishopp on Nov 3, 2008 8:30 PM   
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The financial crisis is not over. In fact, I believe that it will not even slow the steady march toward more profits at your expense.
I am done believing that all the crimes committed by this administration and it's cronies are just accidents or the result of being a little too greedy.
If they are willing to flush all your savings down the toilet, or allow terrorists to attack and get away, or allow a city to fester and starve after a national disaster, or devalue your currency for their own benefit (just to name a few of the crimes committed) then what is to stop them?
How far will they go? The answer is as far as you let them.
These people would literally rob a starving child.
I wrote to my Senator and I wrote to my Congressman protesting the bailout bill just like thousands of other citizens. I protested the war in Iraq with millions of other people around the world. There was no response. Not even a flinch.
But I failed to initiate a difinitve course of action. I relied on a fraudulent system and trusted this illusion of democracy.
Not until 9-11 did I realize that our demise is profit for the vultures. HUGE PROFITS. This is intentional. They are picking our bones clean and making slaves of us all. They are using the hegemony of US financial markets while reducing the ability and effectiveness of the US military in conjunction with a calculated repetitive shock of fear. Fear of attack, of food shortages, of bank closings, of disease, of energy shortfalls all contribute to our docile acceptance and the loss of our civil rights.
Whomever you chose to vote for tomorrow, don't stop there. Never let up. There will come a time when the people must rise up to protect ourselves.
Now is that time.

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ATH
Posted by: ATH on Nov 5, 2008 2:17 AM   
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America's economic demise began when The Federal Reserve Act was passed. The Federal Reserve is not a government agency. It is a private central bank, run in the manner of a corporation--which is what it actually is. It is run solely for the profit of its unknown shareholders, regardless of the extremely detrimental effect on government, people, and
the country as a whole--minus this 1 or 2% of elites. Their goal, as publicly stated by private banker David Rockefeller (whose father was one of the 3 main architects of the FED Reserve Act, along with J.P. Mprgan and Paul Warburg)in a C.F.R. meeting in June of 1991 is
World Government.
Previous to the FED, the government created,
circulated, and issued all the nation's currency, debt and interest free, for the facilitation of trade. Then, this group of bankers performed this coup de tat on the people of the United States. Since the FED Act became law, the government now has to borrow the money it needs from the FED, and pay it back with interest.
The result has been a 96% de-valuation of our currency. Most people know this as inflation, but what they don't understand is that inflation is not the price of goods and services going up--it's the purchasing power of the dollar going down.
President Woodrow Wilson, who signed the Federal Reserve Act into law, later deeply regretted doing so, and had this to say:
"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now based on its system of credit. We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a
government by the opinion and duress of a small
group of dominant men."
--President Woodrow Wilson 1919.
Our founding fathers knew well the danger of private banks, as show here:
"If the American people ever allow the banks, and the corporations which will rise up
around them, to control our nation's money supply, they will, first by inflation, then by deflation, deprive the people of all their property, until their children wake up homeless.."--President Thomas Jefferson
Homeless. Sounds like Tom might have known what he was talking about.

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Posted by: ATH on Nov 5, 2008 2:33 AM   
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The final part of our demise, asides from the huge and main factor of the fact that we gave a private corporation control over our money supply is the fact that we now have what's called a "fiat" currency--which means it's not backed up by gold, or silver, or anything.
The paper that the FED prints up gets its value
soley by stealing it from the other money that is in circulation..Only the first person to receive this "new" money will get its full value..As the money enters circulation, it begins to devalue all the other money, which results in what we call "inflation" which is
like a hidden tax we all pay.
Taking about Alan Greenspan, listen to this
piece from his book, "Gold and Economic Freedom"
"In the absence of the gold standard, there is no no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value...[Gold] stands as a protector of property rights."
--Alan Greenspan, before he went to work for
the Federal Reserve.
I'll leave you with one last quote, from a private banker who decided to "blow the whistle" after what must have been some soul searching:
"Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again.
However, take away their power to create money, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in.
But, if you wish to remian the slaves of
bankers, and pay the cost of your own slavery,
let them continue to create money."
-Sir Josiah Stamp, Former Director of the (private) Bank of England.

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All The Comments Good
Posted by: ron heringhauser on Nov 8, 2008 3:13 PM   
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After reading through most of the comments, I am pleased to find so many writers understand how we got in this mess. Its the usual suspects. money, greed, and power abused. I campaigned hard for Dr. Ron Paul and though he did'nt win, he did educate millions of voters. Perhaps in 2012, when we'll still be in the depths of depression; Ron Paul's message of a return to Constitutional values and eliminating the Federal Reserve, will find a majority of voters willing to take action.

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note Schumer,Rubin,and Summers named under Phil Gramm
Posted by: whealeydj on Nov 8, 2008 8:50 PM   
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in the 2nd last pargraph under Phil Gramm. I am quite annoyed they are among Obama's top economic advisors. Obama should name Stiglitz not Summers to World Bank or Treasury.

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now is the time to tell Obama transition team to say no
Posted by: whealeydj on Nov 8, 2008 9:15 PM   
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the failed economic policies which brought us this mess. that neoliberals like Rubin and Summers are little better than Bernanke and Paulson. it is the same Wall Street elite that does not care for 95% of American people. More Joe Stiglitz and more Bob Reich. We need a real change from the neoliberals and right wing wackos that brought us this mess. we want a new New Deal and New Fair Deal and New Great Society and not the Raw Deal we have gotten for last 30 years. start by bringing back a 50% tax on highest income people and/or taking the cap off of FICA aka Social Security. We need to end redistribution from middle class and poor to rich and turn it around. More Robin Hood and less Prince John (aka George, Bill,George Ronald).

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I don't call them Democrats or Republicans, I call them...
Posted by: jvaljon1 on Nov 8, 2008 9:29 PM   
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DemoPublicans. And I'm voting against all that I can identify. Sorry Barack--I got nothing against you and everything against Repukes, so I'll vote for you, but I AM gonna leave blank the slot for your VP, Credit-Card Joe Biden.

You might want to ask your Party Leaders just why--in the face of a looming Depression--they took a popular Democrat running-mate from you; set the both of you AGAINST one another, and when push came to shove, they then went and saddled you with someone who--honorable or not, and I have known worse--, as Senator, helped to re-write the laws that made the second Grand Theft America, possible.

Barack. Watch your back--and meanwhile. we're all cheering you on. IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME!!!

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Don't shoot them!
Posted by: mike_burns on Nov 12, 2008 11:35 AM   
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Let's gather them all up and put them in reeducation camps. They can make their own food and clothing. At night, they can listen to the readings of Marx, Lennon, and Mao. I sure we can find the best of Fidel on CD. We can reprogram them into good comrades.
For those of us, who has lived under capitalist oppression, This way of thinking has grown appealing.

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TimS
Posted by: TimS on Nov 13, 2008 8:52 AM   
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There is no way we should be giving those greedy shitbags our tax dollars. Let them swing,unregulated. They knew where they were going and they counted on their henchmen and henchwomen in congress, the white house, and all the trippy little political appointees that carried their luggage.The biggest swindle of all time and we have to pay the swindlers who bonused their way to riches and wrecked the world economy for engineering and perpetrating it? Deport them, take away all their crap and deport them to their favorite swindle spots like the cayman islands or better yet just put them all on a boat to nowhere, without a dime of my money.I read that while this bailout was being pushed down our throats, citizen calls and e-mails to their"representatives" were at 100 to 1 against? That sure wasn't how they voted though.

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Forward this article to everyone
Posted by: Philip Newton on Nov 17, 2008 4:01 PM   
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I actually now understand the definitions of "Credit Default Swap" and "Collateralized Debt Obligation."

They mean, "Theft."

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The public knows they are being scammed.
Posted by: Artkansas on Nov 3, 2008 12:29 AM   
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The magic of the market is less popular than before and while I have a Libertarian friend who still believes in non-regulation, even he agrees that there should have been no bail out. He is miffed that the rules were changed at a very convenient time.

I wrote my representatives before the vote on the Bailout/Payoff, urging them to say no and study the matter in depth and take Roosevelt's policy as a model.

They ignored me and rolled over like puppies. This bill was a travesty. A gravy train for the guilty.

I'm certainly voting against the incumbents in this election. Not that I think it will help much. Too many people are still in the Democrat/Republican are the only alternatives mindset. Politics are corrupt!

We know we are being scammed, but being able to fight it is something else. Our representatives represent the big businesses, not their constituients.

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The "Free" market
Posted by: drfun on Nov 3, 2008 2:01 AM   
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All the fascist's "Goon's & Thug's" of the Bu$h cabal and their accomplices in Congress McCain,Biden and Obama included are "Enemy Combatant's" of the USA voting for this unpatriotic bill, with all deserving life sentences at Gitmo enduring what "Enemy Combatant's" have.

I know Obama "Zombies" will be falsely accusing me of being a "Racist" while the pontificate from their non-minority neighborhoods, go figure.

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Out the Co-Conspirators, Too
Posted by: Dr. J on Nov 3, 2008 2:41 AM   
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While your article names the individuals, particularly Gramm and Greenspan, who created the foundation for this economic house of cards, there were, and are, many on both sides of the aisle, who conspired to create the chimera of solvency and sound policy.

Look at Biden and the Credit Card Industry, as well as Schummer and the Hedge Fund Managers, etc. It would be helpful if we had a listing that correlates all the large corporations, from oil to military, from pharma to financials, alongside their enablers in congress, the executive branch and, last but not least, the federal judiciary. Then we can truly assess who are the co-conspirators in this debacle. They too need to be outed.

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It's called FASCISM
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Nov 3, 2008 3:48 AM   
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And it stars a place where “capitalism” and "democracy" cannot & DOES NOT EXIST outside of Orwellian BS slogans to betray gullible Americans into betraying themselves.

There's the real fairytale: Fascism sold as killing joke "democracy" by the usual Organized Corporate Crime Rule .

Fascists and Fascism has brought on the liar-fest of blood money genocide 9/11 "war on terror" into martial law blackmail Wall Street "bailout". All of it supported 100% by McCain and Obama in the pocket of their criminal paymasters to be sold straight down the line in the name of (what else) but "freedom" and "democracy".

Would you like a little denial with that folks? A little cognitive dissonance perhaps?

Meanwhile we've got the Alternets of the world recycling most of the Washington-MSM circus lies that McCain and Obama have pumped out wholesale every day on the campaign trail.

By now the only people that actually tell anything like the truth are marginalized, demoted, fired, or just plain told to shut up and go away, lest they rain on the sordid parade.

As George Carlin said: "If you have selfish ignorant citizens you're going to get selfish ignorant leaders...The public sucks. F**k Hope...Forget the politicians. They’re irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice.

You have OWNERS. They OWN YOU. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying to get what they want. Well we know what they want: they want more for themselves and less for everybody else.”


Welcome to Amerika -- land of slaves, home of fool cowards.

God help us.

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Greenspan should feel the shame of his inaction
Posted by: cognitorex on Nov 3, 2008 4:45 AM   
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Circa 1986 I sat high up over the New York City financial area with a prominent bank's Executive VP and Director.
He said, "Where do you think we should be looking for future profits, we'd like to have of our equity 'at play.'
I was flattered that he should court my opinion. I also remember thinking, "Half your equity at play, what are you, nuts?"
The bank is no more in existence.
The thinking that taking increasing risk in order to increase bonuses brought the system down. Paying people to book trades and make risky loans without waiting for repayment or profits to be realized created a bonus atmosphere versus a profit atmosphere.
Greenspan absolutely had to fully know of these issues.
For personal or political reasons he let the GOP/big bank's horsepucky 'no regulation' mantra rule global financial markets to the gross neglect of the world's individual depositors and pension holders, both average folks and the very wealthy.
His legacy from his time at the helm is cowardice and abject failure. I hope he can feel shame; lots of it, unregulated.

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more wanted posters
Posted by: cynthe on Nov 3, 2008 5:01 AM   
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i agree about the wanted posters, but you should also add all senators and representatives who supported deregulation. Just because a bill is proposed, doesn't mean our representatives have to support it.

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No Bob and Larry on Jim's list?
Posted by: Teller on Nov 3, 2008 5:03 AM   
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Not Rubin? Not Summers? Not...
Hightower again playing pick up the soap in the Democratic Party showers.

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Can Someone Actually Explain to Me...
Posted by: Russianrocket on Nov 3, 2008 5:04 AM   
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How derivatives caused the current crisis. I keep hearing the same quote from Buffer over and over again, about financial weapons of mass destruction, but no one has yet to explain to me how derivatives are responsible for the crisis. For that matter, no article on this site has actaully given a good explanation of what a derivative actually is.

Can someone please give me a detailed explanation of how derivatives are responsible for this and not something like, say interest rates being too low for too long (A legitimate criticism of Greenspan) or are current accound deficit?

Thank You

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Trickle Down is the Feudal System- TREASON
Posted by: Purple Girl on Nov 3, 2008 5:15 AM   
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Having considered myself a avid 'Clintonian' during the '90's ...Hindsight ( Hillary's Inactions in the senate and her dispictable campaign)Have smacked the Rose Colored Glasses Off my face. Granted I was far more liberal than the Clintons (and am still more liberal than sen Obama) but after 12 yrs of Trickle down and social shackling I was willing to compromise any way possible to change the tide. Well it appeared to have been shifted a bit...Until this meltdown. The Clinton's pushed everything Forward..Not 'Pay it forward', But 'Play it forward'..No wonder we had so much extra cash on hand after he left office..They Paid for Nothing!
this is why I am Revolted everytime I hear the Lastest Cheney Puppets bitch about possilbe tax increases. Frankly the Rich should be kicking down...Since it was OUR money they stole anyway. Neither should any of US bitch since it is Our Duty to try to rectify this Fuck Up before the Next genereation must be placed upon th eGlobal Auction block Too.
We must have as much fortitude and committment to them as our Grandparents showed during the First Great depression.
Paying taxes is not just 'Patriotic' it is our Duty to our Children and their Children. Funny a MOTHER of 5 has no concept of Duty to her own children...That alone tells me enough about where Sarah Palins priorities lie.Sacrific? Our Country Was Built on Sacrific.Just as in Merry Ol' England which many of Our ancestors Fled, Trickle Dwon is the Economy of Kings.
The last 30 yrs have been controlled by Monarchy Loyalist -not to English Rule, but in Hopes of Building their Own here.Seems many in the Republican party dusted off their Red Coats and Crowns. Waht is the difference if it's a Family Crest or a Corp Logo is the Rich control all the wealth created by the other Classes? ABsolutely NOTHING!
The name it self implies it's goal- to Retain Wealth and only dispense to those Below in samll increments. It might as well been called 'PAY UP'.
But this has not been their only means be resurrect the systems ourancestors fled and bleed to defeat...Consider the Religious right and their Judgement on all others...they would like US to bow to their 'Holy' Order too.
How dare these people call themselves the 'True Americans' when both doctrines are explicitly UNAmerican!
Our only possible escape is the Vote and what are they doing..Lying to the voters about eligibility, Intimidating others, blocking participation and very likely stealing votes when ever possible.
These Are High Crimes and should be Prosecuted as Such, To the Fullest extent of the Law. It is time we take a page out of our Friends the French's History Book...Viva la America..Off with their Heads!
Economic, Social and religious Oppression has NO place in Our Free Market Democracy and We Must make it VERY Clear it will not be tolerated Anymore!

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Rather short list
Posted by: al.hamilton on Nov 3, 2008 5:17 AM   
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Odd that the infamous George Soros is not included in Mr. Hightower's analysis.

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Sub prime frenzy
Posted by: RedFoxOne on Nov 3, 2008 6:10 AM   
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I think it goes back to the sub prime frenzy! Greed, the almighty dollar. the loan brokers getting their commission, the real estate broker getting their commission, greed, greed and more greed. nevermind the borrowers ability to actually repay the loan, just give me my commission.

JIff
Is your ISP watching you?

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Why isn't Bill Clinton on the list?
Posted by: sausage on Nov 3, 2008 6:29 AM   
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Y'know Abraham Lincoln was wrong: "You can fool all of the people all of the time," and Bill Clinton is living proof of that. He fooled 250,000,000 Americans into thinking he is a "liberal" Democrat! And he still has Rush-Limbaugh-listeners and Ted Nugent-fans fooled!

Richard Nixon wasn't crazy enough undo the New Deal. And even Ronald "Government is the problem" Reagan wasn't crazy enough to go full bore with the anti-New Deal deregulation of the financial industry that we saw during the Clinton years. Yet Bill Clinton happily signed the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999 into law, wiping out Glass-Steagall, which led to the current disastrous collapse of the banking and investment businesses.

And, until Monica Lewinsky disclosed a semen stain on here blue dress, Clinton and secret ally Newt Gingrich were on the verge of "reforming" Social Security and Medicare, i.e. privatization and the setting up of individual investment accounts, much as the Bush II administration proposed eight years later. This is documented in a recently published book, The Pact: Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, and the Rivalry that Defined a Generation, by History Channel host Steven Gillon.

Even if Barack Obama wins tomorrow's election, the work is far from over. We must drive the elephants-in-donkey suits of the Democratic Leadership Council into the light of day where they can be exposed for what they really are: Rockefeller Republicans.

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Greed and corruption has brought the country down.
Posted by: Dana L. Stern on Nov 3, 2008 6:35 AM   
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This country has been redesigned in the last eight years to server the rich, Washington D.C. elitists, and Wall Street. National security was cast aside by these people in their never ending quest for money and power. McCain will deliver the death blow if elected!

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How many more idiots
Posted by: grindermonkey on Nov 3, 2008 6:58 AM   
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can Texas produce? Jim, we have counted on you to ferret out these lunatics but they still seem to get past the border guards of reason and prudence. I am thinking that this fence on the border of Mexico should be extended all the way around Texas. These men are the poster children for Christian home schooling and Bob Jones MBA's. Faith-based finance doesn't even exist at the used car lot; why should it exist at the US Treasury? Messianic economics has produced in 2008 the Second Coming of 1929. We are all being nailed to the cross.

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The Re-Establishment Act of the People 2008
Posted by: mwhitley5562 on Nov 3, 2008 7:42 AM   
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This act will restore our Government Back to its Constitutional Republic it was meant to be.
It will remove all of Congress that voted yes on the Bailout, It will bring about an impartial investigation into all Politicians, and remove from public office any who are found to have committed any type of unbecoming behavior for a public servant. It calls for a return of all money taken for any of the bailouts, it will exspand understanding of the Constitution by the common person(Plain and Simple) It will expand content to prevent this kind of action from ever happening again. This act is aimed at all three branches of our Government. This act will shrink Government, and at the same time bring about a element that includes observation over Congress. (position to watch out for the Peoples interest). There is a lot more involved in this act, and if you would like to know more please respond here.

Mike

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The Myth that Laissez Faire Is Responsible for Our Present Crisis
Posted by: alball on Nov 3, 2008 8:55 AM   
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http://mises.org/story/3165

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Democratic Congress Complicit in this Swindle
Posted by: dayahka on Nov 3, 2008 8:59 AM   
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Yes, of course, we have been swindled. Paulson, the man who cooked up those toxic securities, is now bailing out all his rich friends on Wall Street--and doing absolutely nothing for the real economy. The fake economy of the banks and securities firms are still raking it in; the out-of-date car companies are lining up; mortgages are being re-written based on current values, but what happens when house values plunge another 30 percent and your revised mortgage is still more expensive than the value of your house? And who do we appeal to to get us out of this mess, when the Democratic Congress fell over itself to give nearly a trillion dollars to the fake--non-productive--economy?

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Same Problem...Different Century
Posted by: robertmc on Nov 3, 2008 9:22 AM   
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This is only the latest manifestation of the same problem we have had for 300 years- fractional reserve lending. Until it's done away with, we will continue to suffer at the hands of greedy and foolish slave owners of debtors.
EVERY American should watch this video and ask themselves why this is allowed to continue...this creation of wealth out of nothing more than promises.
Jim, maybe you could do a shorter video in your inimitable style?

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STEVEN KING, WHERE ARE YOU NOW.
Posted by: AlteredStates on Nov 3, 2008 9:29 AM   
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The 700 billion dollar give-a-way, that Bush/Paulson/Wall Street engineered, was only a "stop gap" meant to prevent an immediate, world wide, melt-down. But, wait until next year,(as they say).
This is what Steven King dreams about. But this time, it's going to be REAL, as in nightmare!!!

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Mis-understanding
Posted by: Ignatz deFyre on Nov 3, 2008 10:34 AM   
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Part of the problem in correctly understanding issues is the debasement of language into a tool of manipulation. The result is that it has become increasingly difficult for people to extract true meaning, since the same word or phrase can signify completely different constructs to different people. They may be in agreement, or disagreement, as the case may be, without knowing it.

In Interventionism, An Economic Analysis (1940), Ludwig von Mises wrote:

"The usual terminology of political language is stupid. What is 'left' and what is 'right'? Why should Hitler be 'right' and Stalin, his temporary friend, be 'left'? Who is 'reactionary' and who is 'progressive'? Reaction against an unwise policy is not to be condemned. And progress towards chaos is not to be commended. Nothing should find acceptance just because it is new, radical, and fashionable. 'Orthodoxy' is not an evil if the doctrine on which the 'orthodox' stand is sound. Who is anti-labor, those who want to lower labor to the Russian level, or those who want for labor the capitalistic standard of the United States? Who is 'nationalist,' those who want to bring their nation under the heel of the Nazis, or those who want to preserve its independence?"

We talk about the USA, for example, as “democracy", which is defined as (dictionary.com): government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

If by "people" we mean persons of average means and intelligence, in reality, the "people" do not govern since their representatives arrive in office pursuant to a process that has been manipulated to favor a moneyed and ownership class minority. Neither is the electoral system "free", unless by free we mean free to be manipulated due to lack of unbiased structure and regulation.

Mr. Hightower says: "government (aka public)", but there is nothing public about it: it consists of the elite and their minions.

Even "capitalism" has lost it's proper meaning (dictionary.com): an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, esp. as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth.

While capitalism exists supra-nationally, there is no capitalism in the USA, because the USA manufactures very little anymore. The "producer" is the factory in China, and its owner may live in the USA, or in the Bahamas; the condition of the average American, or any other wage earner, is irrelevant to him. So the USA is reduced to "producing" intangibles - money out of nothing: debt, to shuffle and slice and dice to make it look like there's an economy. An economy, where somebody actually makes something useful for someone to use, needs consumers, and debt cannot be consumed, only assumed.

Any step in the direction of logically understanding and trouble-shooting what is happening in the world today requires recalibration of our thinking back to the fundamental meanings of the concepts upon which societies and economies are based.

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"the government(aka the public)"
Posted by: Knot_Rich on Nov 3, 2008 10:37 AM   
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And where, pray tell, did he get that idea?
As his own article points out time and again, and thank goodness he recognizes that this was not just a republican or democratic problem, "the government" no longer represents "the public" as we define it. The public represented by Washington is the Harvard and Yale Ivy League Elite Club, the people who consider themselves far smarter and better than all the rest of us. The rest of us aren't too proud to say "Huh" when these guys start spouting bullshit, but in those circles questioning for clarity would be like admiting they weren't as smart as the others, so everything goes unchallanged. "The people" haven't been represented in decades, we've become nothing more than a nusance to deal with during election years and cash cows to be milked when they've screwed up and need more money. Many of us wrote all the senators and congressmen we could, even those from other states, telling them to just say "no". The public outcry was torrential, but, in the end, who was represented? The public? Fraid not, once again, without having a choice or any say in the matter we were milked to fund a bail out, our names forged to the loan agreement. And how many of those ?representatives? who voted against the will of their constituents will be held accountable and voted out of office, probably none, because most of the people simply go back to their recliners and rot in front of ESPN, many won't even bother to vote because it's too much trouble to stand in line, and besides, "it doesn't make any difference anyway", and they wonder why we have the ?representatives? we do. Apathy is a politicians best friend.

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Bush is the only socialist president in American history.
Posted by: jreal on Nov 3, 2008 10:52 AM   
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Too bad it's for Wall Street. If you think Bush is against socialism your wrong. It's just a matter of which socialism he supports.

Red flags were going up in my head when John Boehner and other K-Street Republicans were pushing and pushing and pushing for this bailout with such a begging manner. These people work for corporations. They are lobbyists with a seat in Washington. Especially Boehner.

Boehner wants corporate rule. He is against any government programs and would rather corporations take care of us. That's how third world countries work. Monopolistic companies supposedly looking out for the people's best interest. Too bad they don't necesarily have to.

If you think Bush is dissapointed about the bail-out, think again. He's getting backroom hi-fives, and whole lot of them. And so is Boehner for bringing home the cookies.

They got the deregulations and they have profited well. They lost their bets but they could count on socialism or a broken country. They knew we couldn't have a broken America.

Looks like Republicans are socialists after all. And they couldn't be happier.

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The Reaganometric Meltdown!!
Posted by: maxsmart on Nov 3, 2008 12:05 PM   
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This has been more like 28 yrs as the Reaganometric policy has coursed like cocaine through our country's economic veins!!! free market, best govt is no govt, no regs, deregs, and as Hightower says laissez fairie policy. Our fuddy duddy Pres has been continuously quoted by all these people as their inspiration except but maybe Greenspan gets to trace his genius to Ayn Rand(BFD)!!

Ideology or pure BS it has only proved there was reason for those regs all along!!

Worse still, though is that our business world has been raped by the vulture capitalists in the 80's leaving the Wall Street Wonders nothing to do but invent pyramid schemes. Meanwhile common business practice requires they don't keep any backup funds for fear of buyout vultures who stage hostile takeovers billing themselves as saviors of the stockholders.

Capitalism should be earning the connotation once reserved for liberal and socialist.

Socialism implies social responsibility, something Wall Street sorely lacks, and due to their quarterly earnings ratings now corporate responsibility hardly exists either, look at Exxon-Globilwarming and the EXXON-Valdez settlement or Enron's slight of hand bookkeeping while they were holding the entire state of California hostage.

So it's time to pull back out the social programs, social consciousness, global consciousness, environmental consciousness, socialized medicine, regulation, taxes for necessary government services, turn the switch of government back on and let Phil Gramm and his kind whine their non-functional hearts out

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Here's the cold reality. CALL BUSH AND TELL THEM NOT TO STEAL THE ELECTION
Posted by: cori on Nov 3, 2008 12:41 PM   
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202 456 1111
That's the nightmare. Here's the cold reality.

Swing state Colorado. Before this election, two Republican secretaries of state purged 19.4 percent of the entire voter roll. One in five voters. Pfft!

Swing state New Mexico. One in nine voters in this year's Democratic caucus found their names missing from the state-provided voter registries. And not just any voters. County by county, the number of voters disappeared was in direct proportion to the nonwhite population. Gore won the state by 366 votes; Kerry lost it by only 5,900. Despite reassurances that all has been fixed for Tuesday, Democrats lost from the list in February told me they're still "disappeared" from the lists this week.

Swing state Indiana. In this year's primary, ten nuns were turned away from the polls because of the state's new voter ID law. They had drivers' licenses, but being in their 80s and 90s, they'd let their licenses expire. Cute. But what isn't cute is this: 566,000 registered voters in that state don't have the ID required to vote. Most are racial minorities, the very elderly and first-time voters; that is, Obama voters. Twenty-three other states have new, vote-snatching ID requirements.

Swing state Florida. Despite a lawsuit battle waged by the Brennan Center for Justice, the state's Republican apparatchiks are attempting to block the votes of 85,000 new registrants, forcing them to pass through a new "verification" process. Funny thing: verification applies only to those who signed up in voter drives (mostly black), but not to voters registering at motor vehicle offices (mostly white).



Here's an ugly little secret about American democracy: We don't count all the votes. In 2004, based on the data from the US Elections Assistance Commission, 3,006,080 votes were not counted: "spoiled," unreadable and blank ballots; "provisional" ballots rejected; mail-in ballots disqualified.

This Tuesday, it will be worse. Much worse.

That's what I found while traveling the nation over the last year for BBC Television and Rolling Stone Magazine, working with voting rights attorney Robert F. Kennedy Jr. This we guarantee: there will be far more votes disappeared by Tuesday night than the three million lost in 2004. A six-million vote swipe, quite likely, shifts 4 percent of the ballots, within the margin of error of the tightest polls.

Begin with this harsh statistic: since the last election, more than ten million voters have been purged from the nation's vote registries. And that's just the start of the steal.

If the noncount were random, it wouldn't matter. But it's not random. A US Civil Rights Commission analysis shows that the chance a black voter's ballot will "spoil" or be blank is 900 percent higher than a white voter's.

Does that mean the election's stolen and you should forget voting and just go back to bed for four years? Hell, no. It means you vote and vote smart, learn how to pry their filthy little hands off your ballot (there's a link at the end). from Greg Palast and Robert Kennedy Jr

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Can the economy rebound...this time?
Posted by: foius on Nov 3, 2008 1:52 PM   
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While there are many "culprits", suspects, conspirators, and perpetrators, the ultimate victims in this ongoing recessionary trend in our economy are the American taxpayers/consumers. Who will subsidize our obvious asset devaluations of pensions, 401 (k) plans, homes, and stocks/bonds/insurance? Where will the jobs come from that are needed to fuel our economy? How will the current political and corporate climates impact future policies? Just a few questions that we, the American citizens so desperately need answers to. Can corporate America be trusted with our economic futures? So far, the answer is a resounding NOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!

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DUH!
Posted by: Ahimsa on Nov 3, 2008 3:28 PM   
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It is a Free Market ideology because the lords get to have their market for free, FREE from cost, FREE from responsibility, FREE from oversight, FREE from punishment, FREE from accountability, FREE from taxes!
We pay for it, and they get rich for FREE!
Don't you get it? It is FREE! The Market is FREE! (not us)
DUH!

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Round 'em all up, including the Bushies, and push them all off a cliff...
Posted by: snideelf on Nov 3, 2008 4:53 PM   
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...one at a time.

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Why Only Include Republicans?
Posted by: left_libertarian on Nov 3, 2008 5:57 PM   
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Why not include all the Democrats who voted for the wall st bailout including Obama?

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travelergtoo
Posted by: travelertoo on Nov 3, 2008 6:38 PM   
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The real trickle down theory is when corporations give money to campaigns because lawmakers passed laws to give them monopolies with our money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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LET'S START WITH **GRAMM** - "RICO" INDICTMENTS
Posted by: smendler on Nov 3, 2008 7:37 PM   
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Ah, he'd be the perfect place to start - culpable for both the financial mess and for the state of healthcare. The new AG should ARREST HIM under the RICO statutes (the Republican Party being the relevant corrupt organization) and exact the penalties that the law allows, including (especially!!) asset forfeiture...!

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still going
Posted by: cbishopp on Nov 3, 2008 8:30 PM   
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The financial crisis is not over. In fact, I believe that it will not even slow the steady march toward more profits at your expense.
I am done believing that all the crimes committed by this administration and it's cronies are just accidents or the result of being a little too greedy.
If they are willing to flush all your savings down the toilet, or allow terrorists to attack and get away, or allow a city to fester and starve after a national disaster, or devalue your currency for their own benefit (just to name a few of the crimes committed) then what is to stop them?
How far will they go? The answer is as far as you let them.
These people would literally rob a starving child.
I wrote to my Senator and I wrote to my Congressman protesting the bailout bill just like thousands of other citizens. I protested the war in Iraq with millions of other people around the world. There was no response. Not even a flinch.
But I failed to initiate a difinitve course of action. I relied on a fraudulent system and trusted this illusion of democracy.
Not until 9-11 did I realize that our demise is profit for the vultures. HUGE PROFITS. This is intentional. They are picking our bones clean and making slaves of us all. They are using the hegemony of US financial markets while reducing the ability and effectiveness of the US military in conjunction with a calculated repetitive shock of fear. Fear of attack, of food shortages, of bank closings, of disease, of energy shortfalls all contribute to our docile acceptance and the loss of our civil rights.
Whomever you chose to vote for tomorrow, don't stop there. Never let up. There will come a time when the people must rise up to protect ourselves.
Now is that time.

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ATH
Posted by: ATH on Nov 5, 2008 2:17 AM   
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America's economic demise began when The Federal Reserve Act was passed. The Federal Reserve is not a government agency. It is a private central bank, run in the manner of a corporation--which is what it actually is. It is run solely for the profit of its unknown shareholders, regardless of the extremely detrimental effect on government, people, and
the country as a whole--minus this 1 or 2% of elites. Their goal, as publicly stated by private banker David Rockefeller (whose father was one of the 3 main architects of the FED Reserve Act, along with J.P. Mprgan and Paul Warburg)in a C.F.R. meeting in June of 1991 is
World Government.
Previous to the FED, the government created,
circulated, and issued all the nation's currency, debt and interest free, for the facilitation of trade. Then, this group of bankers performed this coup de tat on the people of the United States. Since the FED Act became law, the government now has to borrow the money it needs from the FED, and pay it back with interest.
The result has been a 96% de-valuation of our currency. Most people know this as inflation, but what they don't understand is that inflation is not the price of goods and services going up--it's the purchasing power of the dollar going down.
President Woodrow Wilson, who signed the Federal Reserve Act into law, later deeply regretted doing so, and had this to say:
"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now based on its system of credit. We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a
government by the opinion and duress of a small
group of dominant men."
--President Woodrow Wilson 1919.
Our founding fathers knew well the danger of private banks, as show here:
"If the American people ever allow the banks, and the corporations which will rise up
around them, to control our nation's money supply, they will, first by inflation, then by deflation, deprive the people of all their property, until their children wake up homeless.."--President Thomas Jefferson
Homeless. Sounds like Tom might have known what he was talking about.

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ATH
Posted by: ATH on Nov 5, 2008 2:33 AM   
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The final part of our demise, asides from the huge and main factor of the fact that we gave a private corporation control over our money supply is the fact that we now have what's called a "fiat" currency--which means it's not backed up by gold, or silver, or anything.
The paper that the FED prints up gets its value
soley by stealing it from the other money that is in circulation..Only the first person to receive this "new" money will get its full value..As the money enters circulation, it begins to devalue all the other money, which results in what we call "inflation" which is
like a hidden tax we all pay.
Taking about Alan Greenspan, listen to this
piece from his book, "Gold and Economic Freedom"
"In the absence of the gold standard, there is no no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value...[Gold] stands as a protector of property rights."
--Alan Greenspan, before he went to work for
the Federal Reserve.
I'll leave you with one last quote, from a private banker who decided to "blow the whistle" after what must have been some soul searching:
"Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again.
However, take away their power to create money, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear, and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in.
But, if you wish to remian the slaves of
bankers, and pay the cost of your own slavery,
let them continue to create money."
-Sir Josiah Stamp, Former Director of the (private) Bank of England.

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All The Comments Good
Posted by: ron heringhauser on Nov 8, 2008 3:13 PM   
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After reading through most of the comments, I am pleased to find so many writers understand how we got in this mess. Its the usual suspects. money, greed, and power abused. I campaigned hard for Dr. Ron Paul and though he did'nt win, he did educate millions of voters. Perhaps in 2012, when we'll still be in the depths of depression; Ron Paul's message of a return to Constitutional values and eliminating the Federal Reserve, will find a majority of voters willing to take action.

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note Schumer,Rubin,and Summers named under Phil Gramm
Posted by: whealeydj on Nov 8, 2008 8:50 PM   
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in the 2nd last pargraph under Phil Gramm. I am quite annoyed they are among Obama's top economic advisors. Obama should name Stiglitz not Summers to World Bank or Treasury.

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now is the time to tell Obama transition team to say no
Posted by: whealeydj on Nov 8, 2008 9:15 PM   
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the failed economic policies which brought us this mess. that neoliberals like Rubin and Summers are little better than Bernanke and Paulson. it is the same Wall Street elite that does not care for 95% of American people. More Joe Stiglitz and more Bob Reich. We need a real change from the neoliberals and right wing wackos that brought us this mess. we want a new New Deal and New Fair Deal and New Great Society and not the Raw Deal we have gotten for last 30 years. start by bringing back a 50% tax on highest income people and/or taking the cap off of FICA aka Social Security. We need to end redistribution from middle class and poor to rich and turn it around. More Robin Hood and less Prince John (aka George, Bill,George Ronald).

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I don't call them Democrats or Republicans, I call them...
Posted by: jvaljon1 on Nov 8, 2008 9:29 PM   
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DemoPublicans. And I'm voting against all that I can identify. Sorry Barack--I got nothing against you and everything against Repukes, so I'll vote for you, but I AM gonna leave blank the slot for your VP, Credit-Card Joe Biden.

You might want to ask your Party Leaders just why--in the face of a looming Depression--they took a popular Democrat running-mate from you; set the both of you AGAINST one another, and when push came to shove, they then went and saddled you with someone who--honorable or not, and I have known worse--, as Senator, helped to re-write the laws that made the second Grand Theft America, possible.

Barack. Watch your back--and meanwhile. we're all cheering you on. IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME!!!

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Don't shoot them!
Posted by: mike_burns on Nov 12, 2008 11:35 AM   
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Let's gather them all up and put them in reeducation camps. They can make their own food and clothing. At night, they can listen to the readings of Marx, Lennon, and Mao. I sure we can find the best of Fidel on CD. We can reprogram them into good comrades.
For those of us, who has lived under capitalist oppression, This way of thinking has grown appealing.

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TimS
Posted by: TimS on Nov 13, 2008 8:52 AM   
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There is no way we should be giving those greedy shitbags our tax dollars. Let them swing,unregulated. They knew where they were going and they counted on their henchmen and henchwomen in congress, the white house, and all the trippy little political appointees that carried their luggage.The biggest swindle of all time and we have to pay the swindlers who bonused their way to riches and wrecked the world economy for engineering and perpetrating it? Deport them, take away all their crap and deport them to their favorite swindle spots like the cayman islands or better yet just put them all on a boat to nowhere, without a dime of my money.I read that while this bailout was being pushed down our throats, citizen calls and e-mails to their"representatives" were at 100 to 1 against? That sure wasn't how they voted though.

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Forward this article to everyone
Posted by: Philip Newton on Nov 17, 2008 4:01 PM   
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I actually now understand the definitions of "Credit Default Swap" and "Collateralized Debt Obligation."

They mean, "Theft."

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