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"I'm outraged," said Linda Greco, a 40-ish Brooklyn woman. "People are losing their homes. There's homeless people all over the city. The schools are falling apart. And they want to bail these pigs out? It's about time the people of this country woke up and took this country back."
Like many others, Greco learned about the protest from an e-mail tree that sprouted like kudzu on methamphetamine. "I must have gotten 10 to 20," she said.
The demonstration originated with an e-mail sent out Monday afternoon by Arun Gupta, an editor at the leftist Indypendent. "They said providing health care for 9 million children, perhaps costing $6 billion a year, was too expensive, but there's evidently no sum of money large enough that will sate the Wall Street pigs," it read. "We need to act now while we can influence the debate. With Bear Stearns, Fannie and Freddie, AIG, the money markets and now this omnibus bailout, well in excess of $1 trillion will be distributed from the poor, workers and middle class to the scum floating on top? Let the bondholders pay, let the banks pay, let those who brought the 'toxic' mortgage-backed securities pay!"
"It tapped into an enormous reservoir of anger," Gupta told the crowd that gathered at the bull statue on Bowling Green. The e-mail inspired similar protests in almost 200 cities and towns, from Greensboro, N.C., to Henderson, Nev. Though phone calls and e-mails to Congress have been running nearly 1,000 to 1 against the bailout, he added, "it's clear that the fix is in."
"It's out-fuckin-rageous. They expect the public to bail them out?" said Rich Haber, 61, a retired Brooklyn bus driver. "I worked for the Transit Authority for 27 years, and I can't afford a house. I knew these mortgages were bogus."
Others offered similar vitriol. "Appalling," said Kate Powers, 39, an Obama supporter from Brooklyn. "Ridiculous," said Laura Skove, an 18-year-old student in an Obama T-shirt. "The government can't spend money on health care, but it can on Wall Street." "Highway robbery," said Annie V., part of a group holding up signs reading "N.Y. to Wall St. and the Bush Adm.: Drop Dead" -- echoing the legendary "FORD TO CITY: DROP DEAD" headline the Daily News ran in 1975 when then-President Gerald Ford refused to bail out debt-ridden New York City.
That fiscal crisis ended when the banks imposed harsh budget austerity on New York, forcing it to raise the subway fare by 43 percent while virtually eliminating maintenance, lay off police and close firehouses during an epidemic of crime and arson, and slash funding for schools and hospitals.
"They've been allowed to totally screw up and then get bailed out. I want to strangle every single politician," said Kevin Condon, a 30-year-old farm-stand worker from Brooklyn carrying a "Jump Without Your Golden Parachute" sign. Though he doesn't want to see the economy collapse, he said the crisis is an opportunity to dream of a different system, of smaller, more locally based commerce.
"Why isn't everyone in the street?" wondered Megan Fulton, 26, a Brooklyn graduate student. She held a sign asking the government to bail her out for the $93,000 she owes in student loans.
Older protesters had a feeling of deja vu. Davida Joyner, 51, of Harlem worked helping tenants administer abandoned buildings during the 1970s, then suffered a brain tumor and was out of commission for 20 years. "I woke up like Rumpelstiltskin," she said. "I saw all of this housing situation become unbelievable again." Sol McCants, 54, recalled the stock-market and savings-and-loan scams of the 1980s.
"These people are thieves and belong in jail," he said. "McCain's trying to make it look like he's doing a great thing, but he's not. That scumbag doesn't want to face the questions because he was behind the savings and loans."
The best thing that might come out of this crisis, he added, is that white voters might learn to "see their pockets" instead of blaming black and brown people for their problems. But if Obama is elected, people will have to nag him "like my wife tells me every other night to put the toilet seat down."
"I don't think the Democrats are much better," said Eva-Lee Baird, 68, of the Granny Peace Brigade -- noting that many of the Depression-era controls on imprudent investments were taken away under Bill Clinton.
"We need something like the New Deal," said James Trimarco, 30, of Brooklyn. "Put people to work doing actual stuff -- transportation and the environment -- instead of trading fictitious capital around the world."
Though Lower Manhattan is one of the most heavily locked down areas in the country -- the Stock Exchange is surrounded by an iron fence, the closest subway exit is barricaded off, and surrounding streets have concrete stanchions and raised metal sheets to block traffic, with guards and dogs in booths watching them -- police presence at the demonstration was surprisingly light, especially by the draconian standards of the Giuliani-Bloomberg era.
Gupta attributed that to the "media feeding frenzy" surrounding the protest. "You think that while those fuckers are debating in D.C., they want pictures of protesters being beaten by cops being beamed around the world?" he asked.
Many Wall Street types greeted the protesters with contempt. "Just look at these people," sneered one broker as the march neared the Stock Exchange. Another group held a "Get a Job" sign in an office window, and one man dropped a few dollar bills out of his. They fluttered down short of the marchers, landing in a construction site.
Such contempt from the upper classes is nothing new to the lowly proles of Gotham. On Broadway near Wall Street is a stone slab commemorating billionaire real estate developer Harry B. Helmsley, "whose richness of spirit and love for New York helped build this great city." New Yorkers of a certain age and level of cynicism are more likely to remember Helmsley's late widow, Leona, a hotel magnate nicknamed the "Queen of Mean."
She achieved notoriety by leaving $12 million to her dogs -- more than she left to any of her grandchildren -- and telling her housekeeper that "We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes."
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Posted by: badkitty68 on Sep 26, 2008 7:10 AM
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They think that if they don't have a stock portfolio, this won't affect them. There's a major economic shit-storm coming up fast, as in major depression (it's gonna happen, bet on it), and sadly it will be a rude and painful awakening for those who naively "trusted the experts" to protect their best interests.
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Posted by: Beck on Sep 26, 2008 7:35 AM
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it did open my eyes to something, though. There is great criticism here when a woman writes an article pertinent to women, or frames an issue from a woman's point of view, often based upon a poll showing a difference between how men think and how women think. Even if that article is the only one of its kind, people will ask things like, "Does EVERYTHING ALWAYS have to focus on women?" Meaning, if one article of many focuses on women, it erases the ones that didn't.
As I stood there alone, 95% of the thumbs-up and positive remarks I got were from women, and more than half were from black women. Men looked uncomfortably the other way, for the most part. It dawned on me that articles get written by women about women because we seem to care about things more. Our activism seems to embarrass and irk alot of men, who complain about it. It seems really bothersome for one of us to notice that we show certain trends as a group, and comment on that mere fact.
But we keep it up.
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Posted by: ashbaines on Sep 26, 2008 8:09 AM
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Until then, I"m reminded of the Colo. Springs school board members who conspired to halt bus service for the district - saying they needed to 'hit em where it hurts' to get their tax increase.
I'm sick of government conspiring to spread the misery of a few to the population at large, to enlist us to their plight.
Let's have some body splatters first - with CEO's Mudd & Syron sharing a cell with a gal named Darnell.
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Posted by: nickspm on Sep 26, 2008 9:25 AM
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The nerve, arrogance, and utter fearlessness of these people!
Did anyone see what happened the other day in India? A CEO went and fired a lot of people,
and the angry crowd of workers turned on the CEO and killed him.
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Posted by: common intelligence on Sep 26, 2008 9:49 AM
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Retirement funds, social security, infrastucture, water resources, alternative energy, education this country would explode in universal prosperity.
But by Bailing Out the frigged up monetary system that buy worthless paper The nation is doomed.
They congressiona committee, Bush Co , Paulson, Bernake these bastards are all telling the people and trying to convince each other
the world will end if they don't get their cookies.
The economic system as it is is a pyramid sceem gone bad.
Now if any of us where to go to a bank and suggest they bailout us for having invested in a dry well the bank would laugh in our face.
So why are "they" saying "it's all so complicated" As if our simple minds couldn't understand their double talking flimflamman gibberish?
The answer is simple. GAME OVER. you'r all going to jail until we set the system straight.
We don't need and can't accept these pirates to do what is best for us because they have no intension to do any thing but cover their asses and save then from the Guillotine.
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Posted by: EinMD on Sep 26, 2008 10:38 AM
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Kidnap people - nothing
Torture people - nothing
Confiscate people's property - nothing
Ship jobs over seas - nothing
Put innocent people on 'the list' - nothing
Start a war based on lies - nothing
Let the gulf coast region drown - nothing
Endanger national security for fun and profit - nothing
Allow KBR and Blackwater to steal billions - nothing
But hit Joe Average in the pocket and now they're pissed off!
Fight the power baby!
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Posted by: siguy on Sep 26, 2008 12:47 PM
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Are we really this apathetic ? have we been so force fed reality tv, celebrity gossip lifesytle that we really dont care if they rob us blind ? Are we a nation of lazy TV obsessed couch potatoes ?
Prehaps we do deserve everything that has happened to us and will happen to us.
This is a sad day for America.
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Posted by: avatar_singh on Sep 26, 2008 2:37 PM
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that is why the public donto go to vote having been disiilusioned by the corrupt corporates inavding both parties and people have no real choce.
whole system is corrupt and must be overthrown by any means. If the rich corrupt wall street types go bankrupt more good will come out of it.
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Posted by: percipi22 on Sep 26, 2008 5:02 PM
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NO TO BAILOUT. I just finished MUolos and Padillas book Chain of Blame.
The gall of these con artist and greedy robber barons. HOw dare they?
After decades of carping that health care, education, infrastructure, environmental clean up, decades of blaming the fall of america on single mothers, of putting people in prisons, decades of taking taking taking....they want a bailout?????
Appaled doesn't cover it.
I figure they have given us a choice, we can have our arm broken or have a rock tied around our neck and thrown in the river, and who is to say they won't do both.
We are already feeling the inflation from a war foisted upon us when building materials went up immediately. we are already feeling the credit tighten, seen interest rates go up 30% on good credit. seen oil go out the roof, not because of scarcity but because of unbrideled greed. Trickle down????? 30 years of republican conservatives???we can afford anymore.
Let them go down. Let them feel our pain.
Tax religion, collect the fees owed to the govornment by big oil, stop funding zionism, and paying countrys for the privelege of invading them. Stop giving money to banks world wide. STOP sending jobs overseas.
Pull the private sector out of government programs.
If the financial industry had to go through the financial disclosures required to get foodstamps it would be a different story.
NO TO ANY BAILOUT OF ANYKIND
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Posted by: georgiaorwell on Sep 27, 2008 1:20 AM
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We are definitely ready for a multi-party system - I vow personally not to vote for any congress-person who supports this bailout plan and neither should anyone else. The way I see it is that the homeowners and the college loan victims and lack of healthcare citizens never benefit no matter what Congress does so why support the bailout - it won't trickle down no matter what people are being led to believe.
We need to get real - the system is really broken - and Congress doesn't have the b alls to fix it and do what needs to be done.. Just say "NO.!
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Posted by: ATH on Sep 28, 2008 7:11 AM
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Most of the crowd, looks as if they haven't worked a day in their lives, just going to school and leaching off of their parents."
--EncinoM
Is there anyone besides me that is utterly sick of this guy? All he does is write posts--and he can't even spell correctly and writes at about a 5th grade level-- that try to anger the rest of us! Why he is even here, I have no idea, but I think we should ALL report him and try to have him removed.
By the way, those people on WallStreet are no more "fearless" than this guy. They know that the cops will protect them, or their security guards..same with this guy. I guarantee you he wouldn't say ANY of this crap if he were in the same room with us--or even in the same room with me, with no one to protect him. They're cowards and crooks and we need to start dealing with them on the level they deserve.
We need to realize that the money we spend makes much more of an impact than the votes we cast. Obviously, the government is not in control, but the corporatocracy--the corporative body of the ultra-rich who control government agenda through, basically, bribery..although it's more complex than just that, that's the essence of their control. And this will end up biting them in the ass, because people will be too poor to buy their products--at least here in America.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Oct 1, 2008 9:01 PM
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"Though he doesn't want to see the economy collapse, he said the crisis is an opportunity to dream of a different system, of smaller, more locally based commerce."
If this christmas gift to Wall Street scoundrels turns out like the same thing Hoover tried in '32 – which this "bailout" is – then banks and the economy will collapse anyway.
This "bailout" is not the bailing out of the Ship of State, oh no; it is the filthy rich bailing out of the republic after they have raped it, and us, for the last time before a new administration takes office. (And, of course, if McCain/Palin end up as President/Vice Schrew, then the economic raping will continue until morale improves – or even if it doesn't . . .)
This "crisis," and its "fix," is deliberate, and has been planned for months, or even years. The Bush administration, it is rumored, has had this "bailout" in the works for a looong time –– which means that they've had this economic meltdown in the works for just as long.
(September 2001, we get the inside-job destruction of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, and in 2008 we get the destruction of our whole economy – and in-between, we get the destruction of our safety and security with endless "terror threats." Anybody beside me see a pattern here?)
It is time to throw ALL the bums out of Congress; it may not be the only way, but it would be a damn good way to put the "fear of God" back into the scum we, laughingly, call our "leaders." (That . . . and five million people taking up permanent residence in the streets and halls of the capitol.)
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» Defeatism -- those CEOs can be taxed!
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» I want names and address's. It's not over!
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Posted by: badkitty68 on Sep 26, 2008 7:10 AM
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They think that if they don't have a stock portfolio, this won't affect them. There's a major economic shit-storm coming up fast, as in major depression (it's gonna happen, bet on it), and sadly it will be a rude and painful awakening for those who naively "trusted the experts" to protect their best interests.
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Posted by: Beck on Sep 26, 2008 7:35 AM
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it did open my eyes to something, though. There is great criticism here when a woman writes an article pertinent to women, or frames an issue from a woman's point of view, often based upon a poll showing a difference between how men think and how women think. Even if that article is the only one of its kind, people will ask things like, "Does EVERYTHING ALWAYS have to focus on women?" Meaning, if one article of many focuses on women, it erases the ones that didn't.
As I stood there alone, 95% of the thumbs-up and positive remarks I got were from women, and more than half were from black women. Men looked uncomfortably the other way, for the most part. It dawned on me that articles get written by women about women because we seem to care about things more. Our activism seems to embarrass and irk alot of men, who complain about it. It seems really bothersome for one of us to notice that we show certain trends as a group, and comment on that mere fact.
But we keep it up.
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Posted by: ashbaines on Sep 26, 2008 8:09 AM
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Until then, I"m reminded of the Colo. Springs school board members who conspired to halt bus service for the district - saying they needed to 'hit em where it hurts' to get their tax increase.
I'm sick of government conspiring to spread the misery of a few to the population at large, to enlist us to their plight.
Let's have some body splatters first - with CEO's Mudd & Syron sharing a cell with a gal named Darnell.
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Posted by: nickspm on Sep 26, 2008 9:25 AM
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The nerve, arrogance, and utter fearlessness of these people!
Did anyone see what happened the other day in India? A CEO went and fired a lot of people,
and the angry crowd of workers turned on the CEO and killed him.
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Posted by: common intelligence on Sep 26, 2008 9:49 AM
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Retirement funds, social security, infrastucture, water resources, alternative energy, education this country would explode in universal prosperity.
But by Bailing Out the frigged up monetary system that buy worthless paper The nation is doomed.
They congressiona committee, Bush Co , Paulson, Bernake these bastards are all telling the people and trying to convince each other
the world will end if they don't get their cookies.
The economic system as it is is a pyramid sceem gone bad.
Now if any of us where to go to a bank and suggest they bailout us for having invested in a dry well the bank would laugh in our face.
So why are "they" saying "it's all so complicated" As if our simple minds couldn't understand their double talking flimflamman gibberish?
The answer is simple. GAME OVER. you'r all going to jail until we set the system straight.
We don't need and can't accept these pirates to do what is best for us because they have no intension to do any thing but cover their asses and save then from the Guillotine.
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Posted by: EinMD on Sep 26, 2008 10:38 AM
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Kidnap people - nothing
Torture people - nothing
Confiscate people's property - nothing
Ship jobs over seas - nothing
Put innocent people on 'the list' - nothing
Start a war based on lies - nothing
Let the gulf coast region drown - nothing
Endanger national security for fun and profit - nothing
Allow KBR and Blackwater to steal billions - nothing
But hit Joe Average in the pocket and now they're pissed off!
Fight the power baby!
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Posted by: siguy on Sep 26, 2008 12:47 PM
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Are we really this apathetic ? have we been so force fed reality tv, celebrity gossip lifesytle that we really dont care if they rob us blind ? Are we a nation of lazy TV obsessed couch potatoes ?
Prehaps we do deserve everything that has happened to us and will happen to us.
This is a sad day for America.
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Posted by: avatar_singh on Sep 26, 2008 2:37 PM
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that is why the public donto go to vote having been disiilusioned by the corrupt corporates inavding both parties and people have no real choce.
whole system is corrupt and must be overthrown by any means. If the rich corrupt wall street types go bankrupt more good will come out of it.
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Posted by: percipi22 on Sep 26, 2008 5:02 PM
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NO TO BAILOUT. I just finished MUolos and Padillas book Chain of Blame.
The gall of these con artist and greedy robber barons. HOw dare they?
After decades of carping that health care, education, infrastructure, environmental clean up, decades of blaming the fall of america on single mothers, of putting people in prisons, decades of taking taking taking....they want a bailout?????
Appaled doesn't cover it.
I figure they have given us a choice, we can have our arm broken or have a rock tied around our neck and thrown in the river, and who is to say they won't do both.
We are already feeling the inflation from a war foisted upon us when building materials went up immediately. we are already feeling the credit tighten, seen interest rates go up 30% on good credit. seen oil go out the roof, not because of scarcity but because of unbrideled greed. Trickle down????? 30 years of republican conservatives???we can afford anymore.
Let them go down. Let them feel our pain.
Tax religion, collect the fees owed to the govornment by big oil, stop funding zionism, and paying countrys for the privelege of invading them. Stop giving money to banks world wide. STOP sending jobs overseas.
Pull the private sector out of government programs.
If the financial industry had to go through the financial disclosures required to get foodstamps it would be a different story.
NO TO ANY BAILOUT OF ANYKIND
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Posted by: hilly7 on Sep 26, 2008 8:14 PM
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Posted by: georgiaorwell on Sep 27, 2008 1:20 AM
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We are definitely ready for a multi-party system - I vow personally not to vote for any congress-person who supports this bailout plan and neither should anyone else. The way I see it is that the homeowners and the college loan victims and lack of healthcare citizens never benefit no matter what Congress does so why support the bailout - it won't trickle down no matter what people are being led to believe.
We need to get real - the system is really broken - and Congress doesn't have the b alls to fix it and do what needs to be done.. Just say "NO.!
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Posted by: maxomus on Sep 27, 2008 7:20 AM
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Posted by: ATH on Sep 28, 2008 7:11 AM
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Most of the crowd, looks as if they haven't worked a day in their lives, just going to school and leaching off of their parents."
--EncinoM
Is there anyone besides me that is utterly sick of this guy? All he does is write posts--and he can't even spell correctly and writes at about a 5th grade level-- that try to anger the rest of us! Why he is even here, I have no idea, but I think we should ALL report him and try to have him removed.
By the way, those people on WallStreet are no more "fearless" than this guy. They know that the cops will protect them, or their security guards..same with this guy. I guarantee you he wouldn't say ANY of this crap if he were in the same room with us--or even in the same room with me, with no one to protect him. They're cowards and crooks and we need to start dealing with them on the level they deserve.
We need to realize that the money we spend makes much more of an impact than the votes we cast. Obviously, the government is not in control, but the corporatocracy--the corporative body of the ultra-rich who control government agenda through, basically, bribery..although it's more complex than just that, that's the essence of their control. And this will end up biting them in the ass, because people will be too poor to buy their products--at least here in America.
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» ATH, now that doesn't matter does it if your market just increased....
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Posted by: okiedokey on Oct 1, 2008 3:52 PM
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» Your right, EVERYTHING rests on the military and their oath of office.
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Posted by: cori on Oct 1, 2008 8:12 PM
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Posted by: cori on Oct 1, 2008 8:50 PM
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Oct 1, 2008 9:01 PM
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"Though he doesn't want to see the economy collapse, he said the crisis is an opportunity to dream of a different system, of smaller, more locally based commerce."
If this christmas gift to Wall Street scoundrels turns out like the same thing Hoover tried in '32 – which this "bailout" is – then banks and the economy will collapse anyway.
This "bailout" is not the bailing out of the Ship of State, oh no; it is the filthy rich bailing out of the republic after they have raped it, and us, for the last time before a new administration takes office. (And, of course, if McCain/Palin end up as President/Vice Schrew, then the economic raping will continue until morale improves – or even if it doesn't . . .)
This "crisis," and its "fix," is deliberate, and has been planned for months, or even years. The Bush administration, it is rumored, has had this "bailout" in the works for a looong time –– which means that they've had this economic meltdown in the works for just as long.
(September 2001, we get the inside-job destruction of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, and in 2008 we get the destruction of our whole economy – and in-between, we get the destruction of our safety and security with endless "terror threats." Anybody beside me see a pattern here?)
It is time to throw ALL the bums out of Congress; it may not be the only way, but it would be a damn good way to put the "fear of God" back into the scum we, laughingly, call our "leaders." (That . . . and five million people taking up permanent residence in the streets and halls of the capitol.)
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