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California Govt. Offers Guidelines for Pot Smokers, Cops and Growers
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Under the guidelines, medical marijuana dispensaries must operate as not-for-profit collectives or cooperatives, and are prohibited from buying marijuana from growers who are not themselves patients or registered caregivers. The only fees dispensaries can collect are those covering overhead and operating expenses.
The guidelines strongly urge patients to obtain state medical marijuana ID cards and advise police to accept such cards as proof of legitimate medical need. The guidelines also call on police to return seized marijuana to patients who are later proved to be legitimate. They prohibit medical marijuana patients from lighting up near schools and recreation centers or at work, unless employers approve.
Affirming that California's medical marijuana law is not preempted by federal law, the guidelines further direct "state and local law enforcement officers [to] not arrest individuals or seize marijuana under federal law" when an individual's conduct is legal under state law.
But while providing protections to patients and non-profit dispensaries organized as co-ops or collectives, the guidelines could provide a green light for law enforcement to go after the store-front dispensaries that have sprung up like mushrooms in some areas of the state. In ballyhooing a Friday raid against a Northridge dispensary by California Bureau of Narcotics Agents, Brown signaled Monday that a crackdown could be looming.
Accusing the Today's Healthcare dispensary and its operators of criminal behavior by operating a profitable business, Brown went on the offensive. "This criminal enterprise bears no resemblance to the purposes of Proposition 215, which authorized the use of medical marijuana for seriously sick patients," he said. "Today's Healthcare is a large-scale, for-profit, commercial business. This deceptively named drug ring is reaping huge profits and flaunting the state's laws that allow qualified patients to use marijuana for medicinal purposes."
California law enforcement pronounced itself pleased with the guidelines. Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer, president of the California Police Chiefs Association, praised Brown for promulgating them. "Since Proposition 215 was passed, the laws surrounding the use, possession and distribution of medical marijuana became confusing at best. These newly established guidelines are an essential tool for law enforcement and provide the parameters needed for consistent statewide regulation and enforcement."
Despite the apparent threat to non-compliant dispensaries and their suppliers, most medical marijuana advocates also pronounced themselves generally satisfied with the guidelines. The medical marijuana defense group Americans for Safe Access has been working with Attorney General Brown and his predecessor, Bill Lockyer, for several years in an effort to see guidelines promulgated. ASA spokesman Kris Hermes said this week that while the guidelines are not perfect, they are a step in the right direction.
"We've been urging them to come out with an official statement that can direct law enforcement and stop what has been rampant disrespect for state law in some areas," he said. "From that perspective, the guidelines are a huge step forward. They provide a blueprint for local law enforcement to develop sensible policies around patient encounters, and they recognize the validity and law-abiding nature of medical marijuana dispensaries in California. That's huge," said Hermes. "These guidelines are a boon for patients, police, and everyone else in the state and will greatly advance the implementation of state law."
"Given the vagueness of the initiative and the statutes, the guidelines are pretty good," said Bruce Mirken, San Francisco-based communications director for the Marijuana Policy Project. "They establish parameters within which the distribution of medical marijuana is to be treated as legitimate and legal. That's important because some prosecutors have been adamant that there is no legal authority for dispensaries -- period. This cuts the legs out from under them," he said.
"They were about what we expected," said Dale Gieringer, head of California NORML. "Most of the guidelines are consistent with what our attorneys have been saying and advising their clients to do all along. There are a few problem areas, but these guidelines will help fill the vacuum."
One problem Gieringer pointed out was that the guidelines say dispensaries may possess and distribute only lawfully cultivated marijuana, and that they cannot purchase from or sell to non-members. "There is nothing in either federal or state law against purchasing marijuana, so we don't see any legal basis for saying it's illegal to buy from outside vendors," he said.
Another potential problem is that the guidelines say that co-ops and collectives should document their activities and record the source of the marijuana they purchase, Gieringer said. "That is going to be problematic until we have some assurance of protection from being arrested by the DEA, and we don't want to see the cops come in and seize the records, and then bust the growers."
"While there is much about the guidelines that is positive, we also have some worries about some of the dispensary language," Mirken said. "Requiring dispensaries to be non-profit is just silly. Is Jerry Brown going to demand that Walgreen's and Riteaid become charities, too? If society thinks private enterprise and the profit motive are a logical way to distribute goods and services, why not medical marijuana?"
Still, said Mirken, the guidelines are a step in the right direction. "Given that we have all these issues here in California, anything that moves us in the direction of an orderly system with some legal clarity is a good thing. When you have local authorities who just don't like medical marijuana and are looking for an excuse to bust people, which some of them have been doing all along, this is going to provide protection."
But at least one Bay Area dispensary operator was not so impressed. "Let's see how it all plays out," said Richard Lee, proprietor of Oakland's Bulldog Coffee Shop and SR-71 dispensary and key promoter of the Oaksterdam scene. "Hopefully, it will help people in more repressed redneck areas and not hurt people in more progressive areas like Oakland and San Francisco."
Although Brown's guidelines call for dispensaries to be organized as co-ops or collectives, Lee has not incorporated in that manner and has no plans to. "We've been here eight years," he said. "We were here before they even passed SB 420. Oakland has a system that allows reasonable profits; it's set up for the clubs to run like any other business, and we are fine with that. Does Jerry Brown really want to come in and mess with Oakland's system that works?"
While the guidelines could result in a temporary decrease in the number of dispensaries as non-compliant ones either close their doors or have them closed for them by law enforcement, the end result will most likely be more dispensaries opening in areas of that state that are currently underserved because of local law enforcement or official hostility.
"I'm not too worried about a short term decrease in the dispensaries if it brings a little more rigor," said Gieringer. "Things have been fast and loose, and we have some rogue operators who wouldn't normally be operating in a legal market. We will lose some of those people, which could result in a short term decrease in availability, but in the medium term, this should be balanced out by the increase in availability in currently underserved areas."
While not everyone is happy with all aspects of the guidelines, the state of California has now taken a big step toward legitimizing its medical marijuana industry, reducing the confusion surrounding the state's medical marijuana law, and sending a strong signal to the DEA that it intends to police itself.
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Posted by: rsteeb on Sep 2, 2008 8:09 PM
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Richard Steeb, San Jose California [NOT Cuba]
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Posted by: Lauren on Sep 3, 2008 5:04 AM
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Why can't we operate making a profit? We could if the product was wine. Why cant we get the police to protect us? Do we HAVE to be discriminated against?
No, the real purpose of this is to give the police another way to beat us. That is what it looks like to me. Pure bull shit. Exactly what I expected too. I'm disappointed.
They could have done the right thing - for a change. No dice, it is all about discriminating against us as a people. It is about Christians taking California away from the people who are non-Christian. It is blatant racist discrimination by the state. Of course, it is 'business' as usual.
What an fucking ass hole our 'elected' representative is. It was all part of a conspiracy to pander to the religious bias of the 'police', NOT good law. The 'police', BTW kill us for our religion. Tell me how this isn't terrorism.
Or are we actually being run by a facisct christian police state? That IS what it looks like.
Does this new law mean I can grow as much as I want and police will respect and protect my private property rights? Will I be able to smoke in public or around my own children like if I was drinking alcohol?
Because if it isn't, it is religious discrimination, racial persecution and torture. I KNOW what I am talking about.
I think this is another trick by that evil snake Brown. Don't vote for him or Feinstein either, they are in the evil cabal. They want to take over California since they are losing the white house. Our enemies are looking to take over at the state levels. As many of them as they can, they see they are losing the white house.
Don't ever forget this is a WAR, a culture war and they want to take away our children. Like my daughter, there was a considerable and successful effort to take her away from me.
They use a combination platter of sexual abuse, torture, mind fucking and Christianity to do it. It works, I know. She was lied to, lots of things. I know what I am talking about. People in THIS town did it to me. 'Christianity' is part of it.
I just saw an ad on TV for the Scottish annual gathering, there are a LOT of them. I told my husband THOSE are the people who want to kill me. It was scary to see that there are so many of them living in the area. No wonder I have been treated so badly. Wow!
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Posted by: DdC on Sep 3, 2008 9:15 PM
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Top Doc Office Doing Stake Outs and SWAT raids
Starts with DEAth targets Cali Apothicaries, Cali supremes interfer with 215, Rx Ganjawar challenged, Fed judge backs it, Fed's pot challenge tossed. Jerry to the rescue interfering with 215? After 12 years... Supercop of the people thinking he can over rule 215 like he did challenging the Un-Constitutionality of SB 420. The citizens initiatives rule, over politicops, sorry Jer, your wasting more tax money when the budget is cutting off jobs and services as it is. 215 is for the citizens to not be criminalized, it is the Compassionate Use Act not the Medicinal Marijuana Act. For any amount required, private matter between the citizen and their sovereignty. You can call it doctor patient confidentiallity but "doctor" and "caregiver"are determined by the "patient"
It has been opposed since we gathered signatures. It has been abused by every copshop in California at one time or another. This has nothing whatsoever to do with cops. Stop terrrorizing citizens with this constant barage of attacks. One day they have security in knowing their relief is available, the next some elected official or subordinate with a badge needs to make life easier to catch them and cage them. Illegally relieving symptoms and stress? What in tarnation has this society come too? NO ID required, no prescription, no signing your life with the state when they pass the kyndbuds and go straight for the computer records of the patients. It's a vegetable, let it go... DdC
”There's some good stuff in there for us to efficiently punish people who are abusing the law,”
-- District Attorney Paul Gallego
Blessed is the Police State?
Exporting DEAmocracy
D.E.A.th Targets LA.jpg 510x320
DEA terrorizes Los Angeles next with their 'museum' exhibit
DWR: Tuesday, September 2, 2008
DEA Targets America
400 agents x $60/hr...
Journey for Justice Pedaling for Pot
Marijuana Arrests For Year 2006 – 829,625
Tops Record High...
Nearly 15 Percent Increase Over 2005
YEAR * ARRESTS
2006 * 829,625
2005 * 786,545
2004 * 771,608
2003 * 755,187
2002 * 697,082
2001 * 723,627
2000 * 734,498
1999 * 704,812
1998 * 682,885
1997 * 695,200
1996 * 641,642
1995 * 588,963
1994 * 499,122
1993 * 380,689
1992 * 342,314
1991 * 287,850
1990 * 326,850
Disparity By Geography Ryan S. King
pdf: May 2008 The War on Drugs in America’s Cities
By 2003, African Americans were arrested for drug offenses at a rate that was 238% higher than whites, which translates into African Americans being 3.4 times more likely to be arrested for a drug offense than whites.
Table 3- Drug Arrests per 100,000 by Race, 1980-2003
RACE 1980 2003 GROWTH
WHITE 387 658 70%
BLACK 684 2221 225%
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LETS BE SERIOUS HERE ABOUT THE INFRINGEMENTS OF RIGHTS.
THESE LAWS ARE RIDICULOUS PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT IS A MULTI-LINGUAL LAW AND CANNABIS IS SEEN WORLD WIDE AS A SPIRITUAL SACRAMENT.
MEDICINE IS GOOD BUT SPIRITUAL ENLIGHTENMENT IS GREAT.
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Posted by: Talon on Sep 7, 2008 9:55 AM
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Till then, screw this guideline!
Why are we allowing ourselves to be raped by pharmaceutical companies, who make the top 10 income of anyone in the world, next too oil and soda pop, while cannabis dispensary owners merely make a decent living?
I have known dispensary owners, and they made a decent living, not driving around in the most expensive car out there, not living in huge mansions, or eating out at the most prestigious restaurants, but living like normal, middle class people.
Why can't they live that way? People in this country are spending hundreds to thousands a month on pharmaceuticals every month; some are spending more than their house payments or rent. And that's. . .OK????
I say, do your best to avoid giving your money to
Big Pharma!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Find whatever alternatives you can, including cannabis.
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Posted by: Lauren on Sep 3, 2008 5:04 AM
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Why can't we operate making a profit? We could if the product was wine. Why cant we get the police to protect us? Do we HAVE to be discriminated against?
No, the real purpose of this is to give the police another way to beat us. That is what it looks like to me. Pure bull shit. Exactly what I expected too. I'm disappointed.
They could have done the right thing - for a change. No dice, it is all about discriminating against us as a people. It is about Christians taking California away from the people who are non-Christian. It is blatant racist discrimination by the state. Of course, it is 'business' as usual.
What an fucking ass hole our 'elected' representative is. It was all part of a conspiracy to pander to the religious bias of the 'police', NOT good law. The 'police', BTW kill us for our religion. Tell me how this isn't terrorism.
Or are we actually being run by a facisct christian police state? That IS what it looks like.
Does this new law mean I can grow as much as I want and police will respect and protect my private property rights? Will I be able to smoke in public or around my own children like if I was drinking alcohol?
Because if it isn't, it is religious discrimination, racial persecution and torture. I KNOW what I am talking about.
I think this is another trick by that evil snake Brown. Don't vote for him or Feinstein either, they are in the evil cabal. They want to take over California since they are losing the white house. Our enemies are looking to take over at the state levels. As many of them as they can, they see they are losing the white house.
Don't ever forget this is a WAR, a culture war and they want to take away our children. Like my daughter, there was a considerable and successful effort to take her away from me.
They use a combination platter of sexual abuse, torture, mind fucking and Christianity to do it. It works, I know. She was lied to, lots of things. I know what I am talking about. People in THIS town did it to me. 'Christianity' is part of it.
I just saw an ad on TV for the Scottish annual gathering, there are a LOT of them. I told my husband THOSE are the people who want to kill me. It was scary to see that there are so many of them living in the area. No wonder I have been treated so badly. Wow!
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» RE: Angry Left - damn right I'm angry. Pat Buchanan has blood on his hands that will NEVER wash off
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Posted by: robert.noll on Sep 3, 2008 7:27 AM
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Posted by: DdC on Sep 3, 2008 9:15 PM
Current rating: Not yet rated [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Top Doc Office Doing Stake Outs and SWAT raids
Starts with DEAth targets Cali Apothicaries, Cali supremes interfer with 215, Rx Ganjawar challenged, Fed judge backs it, Fed's pot challenge tossed. Jerry to the rescue interfering with 215? After 12 years... Supercop of the people thinking he can over rule 215 like he did challenging the Un-Constitutionality of SB 420. The citizens initiatives rule, over politicops, sorry Jer, your wasting more tax money when the budget is cutting off jobs and services as it is. 215 is for the citizens to not be criminalized, it is the Compassionate Use Act not the Medicinal Marijuana Act. For any amount required, private matter between the citizen and their sovereignty. You can call it doctor patient confidentiallity but "doctor" and "caregiver"are determined by the "patient"
It has been opposed since we gathered signatures. It has been abused by every copshop in California at one time or another. This has nothing whatsoever to do with cops. Stop terrrorizing citizens with this constant barage of attacks. One day they have security in knowing their relief is available, the next some elected official or subordinate with a badge needs to make life easier to catch them and cage them. Illegally relieving symptoms and stress? What in tarnation has this society come too? NO ID required, no prescription, no signing your life with the state when they pass the kyndbuds and go straight for the computer records of the patients. It's a vegetable, let it go... DdC
”There's some good stuff in there for us to efficiently punish people who are abusing the law,”
-- District Attorney Paul Gallego
Blessed is the Police State?
Exporting DEAmocracy
D.E.A.th Targets LA.jpg 510x320
DEA terrorizes Los Angeles next with their 'museum' exhibit
DWR: Tuesday, September 2, 2008
DEA Targets America
400 agents x $60/hr...
Journey for Justice Pedaling for Pot
Marijuana Arrests For Year 2006 – 829,625
Tops Record High...
Nearly 15 Percent Increase Over 2005
YEAR * ARRESTS
2006 * 829,625
2005 * 786,545
2004 * 771,608
2003 * 755,187
2002 * 697,082
2001 * 723,627
2000 * 734,498
1999 * 704,812
1998 * 682,885
1997 * 695,200
1996 * 641,642
1995 * 588,963
1994 * 499,122
1993 * 380,689
1992 * 342,314
1991 * 287,850
1990 * 326,850
Disparity By Geography Ryan S. King
pdf: May 2008 The War on Drugs in America’s Cities
By 2003, African Americans were arrested for drug offenses at a rate that was 238% higher than whites, which translates into African Americans being 3.4 times more likely to be arrested for a drug offense than whites.
Table 3- Drug Arrests per 100,000 by Race, 1980-2003
RACE 1980 2003 GROWTH
WHITE 387 658 70%
BLACK 684 2221 225%
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LETS BE SERIOUS HERE ABOUT THE INFRINGEMENTS OF RIGHTS.
THESE LAWS ARE RIDICULOUS PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT IS A MULTI-LINGUAL LAW AND CANNABIS IS SEEN WORLD WIDE AS A SPIRITUAL SACRAMENT.
MEDICINE IS GOOD BUT SPIRITUAL ENLIGHTENMENT IS GREAT.
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Posted by: Talon on Sep 7, 2008 9:55 AM
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Till then, screw this guideline!
Why are we allowing ourselves to be raped by pharmaceutical companies, who make the top 10 income of anyone in the world, next too oil and soda pop, while cannabis dispensary owners merely make a decent living?
I have known dispensary owners, and they made a decent living, not driving around in the most expensive car out there, not living in huge mansions, or eating out at the most prestigious restaurants, but living like normal, middle class people.
Why can't they live that way? People in this country are spending hundreds to thousands a month on pharmaceuticals every month; some are spending more than their house payments or rent. And that's. . .OK????
I say, do your best to avoid giving your money to
Big Pharma!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Find whatever alternatives you can, including cannabis.
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