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Finally, Congress Starts Moving on Reforming Pot Prohibition
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Second, the media attending the press conference on HR 5843, a bill that would decriminalize marijuana possession and use for responsible adults, fairly captured the event's narrative, i.e., 'it makes no sense to treat cannabis consumers like criminals' and 'why not start controlling cannabis in the same way society (and government agencies) already control alcohol products?' with no double entendre or goofy 'stoner stupidisms'. You can view a CNN video of the press conference here. Also, you can check out some YouTube footage here of my opening remarks.
Bill Piper from the Drug Policy Alliance spoke about the collateral effects that happen to citizens arrested for minor amounts of cannabis including, but not limited to: loss of student loans; denial to public housing, food stamps and job training; and denial of entry into the military and some government service jobs.
Rob Kampia from the Marijuana Policy Project discussed the broader implications of the federal government passing decriminalization legislation and how it could affect state efforts to reform cannabis laws, notably this November's decriminalization initiative on the ballot in Massachusetts.
As has been noted by others who attended today's press conference, there was a certain air of desperation coming from the part of the government who is responsible for supposedly 'controlling' currently illicit drugs. The Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP)chief propagandist David Murray attended the press conference, making himself available for questions afterwards and handing out his latest anti-cannabis handywork, and he seemed absolutely befuddled that anyone on the face of the planet could possibly compare cannabis and alcohol policies, and that there is no such thing as the responsible use of cannabis. Period. Even for medical purposes with a physician's recommendation. Period.
Wow. Can you say, 'flat earth'?
Indeed, there is much work to be done in cannabis law reform in the Executive Branch (which, astonishingly, is where ONDCP resides) and so-called anti-drug agencies. The tale Hercules and the cleansing of the Augean stables immediately comes to mind
As Chairman Frank noted in his prepared remarks, HR 5843 (and similar legislation HR 5842, which regards medical marijuana rescheduling) are not likely to come a full committee for vote until well into 2009. Given this candid assessment by Rep. Frank, for NORML members and advocates of cannabis law reform, there are still important phases that we can all help accomplish that will hasten passage of these important and reform-minded bills.
Rep. Frank and the other current co-sponsors of HR 5843 will be sending around a 'Dear Colleague" letter soon encouraging other members of the House to join them early on in support of their bill for the decriminalization of cannabis for responsible adult use and, therefore, like all legislation in the Congress, the more co-sponsors of a legislative bill, the better chance the bill's chance of passage.
With the change of presidency in the wings and a likely increase in the number of Democratic members being elected to the House of Representatives, NORML's expectations for HR 5843 is for there to be both subcommittee and full committee votes on Judiciary regarding this important legislation late into 2009.
Importantly, NORML members and advocates of cannabis law reform, for the next six months, need to truly concentrate their advocacy efforts on actively recruiting each of our elected members of Congress to become co-sponsors of HR 5843. Of the many lobbying and advocacy efforts one can employ to advance cannabis law reforms in America, getting a federal cannabis decriminalization bill passed and signed into law is the single most politically achievable public policy advance that is likely to happen in Congress in the next few years.
As our democracy prescribes, states will continue to largely serve as the catalyst of change and innovation in public policy making regarding cannabis, and this is very likely going to continue to happen with more and more municipalities and states passing progressive cannabis laws--at some point, ultimately, positively affecting the federal government.
At least that is how it is supposed to work, right?
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Posted by: mnascimento on Aug 4, 2008 3:39 PM
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I can't help thinking this legislation is being advanced because some big corporation sees dollar signs.
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Posted by: surfreality on Aug 5, 2008 6:35 AM
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Recently Alternet published a story about the DEA busting a medical marijuana clinic in Culver City with the assistance of the local PD. Further, this happened the same day that a Federal Appeals Court ruled that Federal law did NOT trump state law in this arena. Cops do what they want to do... Where's the Culver City PD respect for the law?
In NYC, if one is apprehended with less than 25 grams of cannabis the NYPD is supposed to issue the offender with a "Desk Appearance Ticket"; unless the contraband is in "public view". In that case the violation becomes a misdemeanor and then the NYPD will arrest said suspect and put them through the system. In practice what the NYPD does is before they frisk a suspect, they will ask them if they have anything on them that they would like to tell the cops about and they will assure the suspect that "things will go easier for you if you come clean now". Then when the marijuana is produced and in "public view" they arrest the suspect. The NYPD would obviously rather arrest people for the crime of marijuana possession than issue DATs. This is their culture.
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Posted by: xxdr_zombiexx on Aug 5, 2008 8:24 AM
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Christopher HItchens believed, unreasonably, that waterboarding was not torture. He ended up paying to be tortured and decided it was indeed torture.
I poke huge fun at this in Smoke on the Waterboard
It is similarly unreasonable to still believe a A WORD this government says about the Herb. It's also not sufficient to complain that folks like me are "misrepresenting reality" by proclaiming everything the government says about pot is a lie.
Every single assertion you can attribute to the US Federal Government about marijuana is pathetic propaganda.
It has been reduced to an emotional issue wherein facts don't really matter anyway because the people who need to know the facts the most have their heads filled with USDA reefer mad bullshit.
The GOP has controlled this conversation for 3 generations and it's time their framing was exposed, smashed and replaced with intelligent framing.
IF you believe what the government says about marijuana, you don't have all the possible and best info.
Period.
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I have not been to a state where law enforcement say that the marijuana problem is so far out of hand with our children that in some instances they're throwing their hands in the air. And I would assume that is one of the reasons that the Marijuana Policy Project is here in Alaska. There may be some in the room. I have run into them in Arizona and in Nevada and in Ohio and in Missouri. And they didn't come to Alaska by accident. They're smart people.
As the governor mentioned, George Sorros, who owns half of Argentina and Peter Sperling (ph) and John Lewis, who are of Progressive Insurance and the University of Phoenix money, put all their money together. It's called the Marijuana Policy Project, and then they target the states. And I'm told they have polling and anecdotal support, sometimes focus groups to try and determine where they can make a difference in legalizing drugs in their country.
And to their credit they will tell you that is their ultimate goal. It's not about medical marijuana or marijuana, it's about legalizing drugs in the United States. And they're entitled to their opinion. In American we can all stand up and be heard.
His office mate, Bertha Madras, is she their blogger?
Dr. Madras promoted implementation of screening and brief intervention procedures (SBI) in healthcare centers throughout our nation, as a public health response to reducing substance abuse and its adverse medical and social consequences.
Working closely with several medical organizations, she gained strong support for SBI programs and dissemination. Simultaneously, she encouraged the American Medical Association CPT® board to approve new procedural reimbursable codes for widespread substance abuse screening and brief interventions (SBI) in healthcare settings. New codes were adopted in 2007.
She has promoted effective forms of prevention and deterrence, including screening in schools, in the work place, and educating the public on science-based adverse consequences of drugs. She has been a forceful advocate of expanding treatment access, via Access to Recovery and Drug Court programs.
I wonder if she had anything to do with the phone call I got from Kaiser to see if my son was living with me. She has a lot in common with that woman on the FCC, back ground in 'mental health' or torture?
I think I am closing in on the group who implemented my torture. I think she might be one of them. What religion are the people working in this office?
I would like to ask these people about the surveillance, argument, etc they have put me through. I don't believe they haven't seen my questions and arguments. Their refusal to address those issues is a religious persecution.
They got together with their other racist friends and devised a complicated torture regime just for me. Ellen Tauscher over at the NSA was also involved.
I told everybody I was going to win the drug war, they couldn't have that, it doesn't fit their ideology. Their religious ideology against my religion.
That is a very serious crime in America, it is conspiracy to commit torture based on religion. That is more than a hate crime, it is an act of genocide, ethnic cleansing.
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Posted by: Lauren on Aug 14, 2008 1:27 PM
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The guy is a creep, IMO. One of those big white guys who enjoys putting other people down.
Now he is telling us if you wait until after 21 to try drugs you won't get 'addicted', he's plugging a parent's power box for us to share our experiences. Parent Power
Now he is getting ragged by a patient about medical marijuana. What an ignorant pig. Dude, the thing that destroys the most people in the 'war on drugs' is law enforcement, not 'addiction'. The more money we pour into drug enforcement, the deadlier it gets.
He works with Kaiser, oh great.
C-span 2 Boring presentation of blame the parent. Does it occur to him he could say the same things about all other drugs. Are parents who drink or use over the counter or prescription drugs in front of their children also child abusers?
This is outrageous. He is trying to justify his salary by bashing my people again. I am so sick of this ignorant propaganda against my religion and church THC Ministry.
As I pointed out yesterday, the experience of marijuana can change dysfunctional relationships. What is really disturbing about this is the definition of the problem of marijuana is 100% based on the opinions of others. You know, those dysfunctional relationships.
That is too much power to give to others. It really boils down to if it bugs people to see you get enlightened or a religious perception they don't share, they can toss you in jail.
He had no comment on kids thinking alcohol was more party fun than pot. No comment on that.
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I can't help thinking this legislation is being advanced because some big corporation sees dollar signs.
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Recently Alternet published a story about the DEA busting a medical marijuana clinic in Culver City with the assistance of the local PD. Further, this happened the same day that a Federal Appeals Court ruled that Federal law did NOT trump state law in this arena. Cops do what they want to do... Where's the Culver City PD respect for the law?
In NYC, if one is apprehended with less than 25 grams of cannabis the NYPD is supposed to issue the offender with a "Desk Appearance Ticket"; unless the contraband is in "public view". In that case the violation becomes a misdemeanor and then the NYPD will arrest said suspect and put them through the system. In practice what the NYPD does is before they frisk a suspect, they will ask them if they have anything on them that they would like to tell the cops about and they will assure the suspect that "things will go easier for you if you come clean now". Then when the marijuana is produced and in "public view" they arrest the suspect. The NYPD would obviously rather arrest people for the crime of marijuana possession than issue DATs. This is their culture.
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Posted by: xxdr_zombiexx on Aug 5, 2008 8:24 AM
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Christopher HItchens believed, unreasonably, that waterboarding was not torture. He ended up paying to be tortured and decided it was indeed torture.
I poke huge fun at this in Smoke on the Waterboard
It is similarly unreasonable to still believe a A WORD this government says about the Herb. It's also not sufficient to complain that folks like me are "misrepresenting reality" by proclaiming everything the government says about pot is a lie.
Every single assertion you can attribute to the US Federal Government about marijuana is pathetic propaganda.
It has been reduced to an emotional issue wherein facts don't really matter anyway because the people who need to know the facts the most have their heads filled with USDA reefer mad bullshit.
The GOP has controlled this conversation for 3 generations and it's time their framing was exposed, smashed and replaced with intelligent framing.
IF you believe what the government says about marijuana, you don't have all the possible and best info.
Period.
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Posted by: Lauren on Aug 9, 2008 3:56 AM
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I have not been to a state where law enforcement say that the marijuana problem is so far out of hand with our children that in some instances they're throwing their hands in the air. And I would assume that is one of the reasons that the Marijuana Policy Project is here in Alaska. There may be some in the room. I have run into them in Arizona and in Nevada and in Ohio and in Missouri. And they didn't come to Alaska by accident. They're smart people.
As the governor mentioned, George Sorros, who owns half of Argentina and Peter Sperling (ph) and John Lewis, who are of Progressive Insurance and the University of Phoenix money, put all their money together. It's called the Marijuana Policy Project, and then they target the states. And I'm told they have polling and anecdotal support, sometimes focus groups to try and determine where they can make a difference in legalizing drugs in their country.
And to their credit they will tell you that is their ultimate goal. It's not about medical marijuana or marijuana, it's about legalizing drugs in the United States. And they're entitled to their opinion. In American we can all stand up and be heard.
His office mate, Bertha Madras, is she their blogger?
Dr. Madras promoted implementation of screening and brief intervention procedures (SBI) in healthcare centers throughout our nation, as a public health response to reducing substance abuse and its adverse medical and social consequences.
Working closely with several medical organizations, she gained strong support for SBI programs and dissemination. Simultaneously, she encouraged the American Medical Association CPT® board to approve new procedural reimbursable codes for widespread substance abuse screening and brief interventions (SBI) in healthcare settings. New codes were adopted in 2007.
She has promoted effective forms of prevention and deterrence, including screening in schools, in the work place, and educating the public on science-based adverse consequences of drugs. She has been a forceful advocate of expanding treatment access, via Access to Recovery and Drug Court programs.
I wonder if she had anything to do with the phone call I got from Kaiser to see if my son was living with me. She has a lot in common with that woman on the FCC, back ground in 'mental health' or torture?
I think I am closing in on the group who implemented my torture. I think she might be one of them. What religion are the people working in this office?
I would like to ask these people about the surveillance, argument, etc they have put me through. I don't believe they haven't seen my questions and arguments. Their refusal to address those issues is a religious persecution.
They got together with their other racist friends and devised a complicated torture regime just for me. Ellen Tauscher over at the NSA was also involved.
I told everybody I was going to win the drug war, they couldn't have that, it doesn't fit their ideology. Their religious ideology against my religion.
That is a very serious crime in America, it is conspiracy to commit torture based on religion. That is more than a hate crime, it is an act of genocide, ethnic cleansing.
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Posted by: Lauren on Aug 14, 2008 1:27 PM
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The guy is a creep, IMO. One of those big white guys who enjoys putting other people down.
Now he is telling us if you wait until after 21 to try drugs you won't get 'addicted', he's plugging a parent's power box for us to share our experiences. Parent Power
Now he is getting ragged by a patient about medical marijuana. What an ignorant pig. Dude, the thing that destroys the most people in the 'war on drugs' is law enforcement, not 'addiction'. The more money we pour into drug enforcement, the deadlier it gets.
He works with Kaiser, oh great.
C-span 2 Boring presentation of blame the parent. Does it occur to him he could say the same things about all other drugs. Are parents who drink or use over the counter or prescription drugs in front of their children also child abusers?
This is outrageous. He is trying to justify his salary by bashing my people again. I am so sick of this ignorant propaganda against my religion and church THC Ministry.
As I pointed out yesterday, the experience of marijuana can change dysfunctional relationships. What is really disturbing about this is the definition of the problem of marijuana is 100% based on the opinions of others. You know, those dysfunctional relationships.
That is too much power to give to others. It really boils down to if it bugs people to see you get enlightened or a religious perception they don't share, they can toss you in jail.
He had no comment on kids thinking alcohol was more party fun than pot. No comment on that.
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